1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for telling my daughter she 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: needs to move out after she had an affair with 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: our married neighbor ouch and this comes from stressed out 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: dad three, I can understand why you're stressed accurate. Last week, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: I caught my daughter twenty one, leaving our neighbor's house 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: early in the morning. I was getting a drink around 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: three in the morning and watched her leave their house 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: and she snuck across the yard whoa, and went through 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: our basement door. Our neighbor is married and probably thirty. 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I assume his wife was gone for the night, as 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: her car wasn't there. The next morning, I went down 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: to my daughter's room and confronted her. At first he 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: denied it, but then she eventually said that she had 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: been sleeping with him for a couple of months. O 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: thirty with a twenty one year old big eikes. I 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: lost it at that point and yelled at her, telling 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: her he is married and she is helping ruin a marriage. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I told her that she needs to tell the wife 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: or she needs to move out, honestly, not a bad 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: Not a bad ultimatum. Yeah, not a bad ultimatum. I 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: like that ultimatum. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: Good adult parenting. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she is clearly upset and thinks I'm overreacting. My 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: wife is also thinking I'm going too far. 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: What wife? 26 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Your wife is probably cheating on you. 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 3: Oka, the wife is also sleeping with the guy. 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no no no. 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: The apple doesn't far from the tree. 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Hot conspiracy theory. All right, Uh, it wasn't the It 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: wasn't the thirty year old that she's cheating on. Why 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: was the thirty year. 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: Old's wife gone open marriage because he was with the 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: wife the Opie's wife. Oh, you're saying, You're saying Opie's 35 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: wife is cheating with the wife of the neighbor guy. 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Opie's what to say? Why was he up at three 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. 38 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, was he getting a drink of water or 39 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: like a like a drink drinks a Gator eight. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 2: F after we talked about what drink means. It's probably 41 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: a drink drink. 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: Anyway. Maybe I get that the neighbor is the main issue, 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: but I'm really disappointed my daughter. She knows his wife 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: and has even babysat for them. 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: The class dude classically. 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: Babysitter is telling her to confess or move out. Too far. 47 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: I mean, she's twenty one. She's twenty one, she is 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: in college. 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me think about this. 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: I do think it's very important that she The right 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: thing to do is tell the wife. 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: Absolutely the right thing to do, just tell the wife. 53 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: And it's like what leverage quote unquote do you have? 54 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe it's not like I don't think I 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: would kick my daughter out. Yeah, she wasn't ready even 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: though she did a bad thing. Yeah. Yeah, but it's 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: also like make adult decisions have adult consequences. 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: What if it's like we don't know if she has 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: a car paid for a provide. What if you're like 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: her job. 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Or she's still in school, she probably maybe has one 62 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: where your school left. Yeah. 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: Maybe I was gonna say take the car away, but 64 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 3: like that's what It's one thing to take a car 65 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: away for like a high school. 66 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: Or it's like, oh, take the bus to school. 67 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: But it's like she can just walk to the cheating 68 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: it's across the street. 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right. 70 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: I was. 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: I was saying as just a general punishment of like, Okay, 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: you can't drive around to see your friends, and. 73 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: Like I mean yeah, like even if she's just if 74 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: she's grounded. 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Just sneak out like she can escape from the basement door. 76 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: She's she's free. 77 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is tricky, dude, This is really I would 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: love to know what y'all would do. Put your answers 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: to the comments. 80 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: What if? Okay, what if? 81 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: What if? 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: What if the husband says tell him or I will, 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: And honestly, you could totally be bluffing at first. 84 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Or tell her or I will tell the wife. 85 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, Yeah, tell tell the wife or I will. Yeah. 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: And then and you you don't even have to be sere. 87 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: You could be bluffing at first. 88 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: That's better. 89 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably better. 90 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Better at least the information gets out. 91 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Because what if what if tell the wife or I will? 92 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah? 93 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: What if she. 94 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 3: Uh, she gets on the streets, and then she's got 95 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: to start only fans, think the living, and then where 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 3: are we at? 97 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: There are other ways to make a living. 98 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: No, there's not. 99 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: Yeahs not sexist? Yes there is no. Ay, I made 100 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: an only fans too, Okay, where's the link? 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: Just kidding? I was, yeah, exactly, I was totally lying. 102 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Also, I mean, if she's on only fans doing it right, 103 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: she's not on the streets like people. People aren't. We're 104 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: watching a video this only fans created like thirty five 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: million dollars net worth? 106 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: Insane? Insane, absolute insane. 107 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: How'd you find her on YouTube? Your finance video? It's true, 108 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: there is an edit. Well, thank you all for responding. 109 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I couldn't respond to more of you. Some 110 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: context I failed to put in here. My wife is 111 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: very upset. She isn't siding with the A. In fact, 112 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: she was cheated on by an X. She understands is 113 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: better than I do. I think that is I think 114 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: that is a big part of why I'm so angry. 115 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: My wife is also a better person than I am. 116 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: She is the only reason I am the man I 117 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: am today. 118 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: You. 119 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I have too much respect to let people, even anonymously, 120 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: insinuate that she is a problem here. I should have 121 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: done a better job in explaining her side. Any comment 122 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: saying anything bad about my wife will be met with 123 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: an fu A. Writing all this out and reading the 124 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: comments has been incredibly helpful. I haven't changed my mind, 125 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: but it's made me think about the situation more, especially 126 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: looking at the future and my relationship with my daughter. 127 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: I just shot a text to my daughter and apologized 128 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: for my anger and asked her to go get a 129 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: drink with me tonight and talk. I told her I'm 130 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: sorry I didn't ask her how she was feeling. I 131 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: need to get my composure back before my next work 132 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: call here in a few minutes. But we'll continue to 133 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: read and reply to comments as I have time to 134 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: day edit too. Just going to put my thoughts here 135 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: instead of commenting. Wow, so many comments. While yes, I 136 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: may be seeming to backtrack a bit with reaching out 137 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: to my daughter, I don't see how that is bad. 138 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: She is my daughter and I love her so much. 139 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: For those who think she would stop talking to us 140 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: if we kicked her out, I raised her to be 141 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: independent and accept consequences and accept consequences for actions. It's 142 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: hard to explain a relationship, but I know she wouldn't 143 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: stop talking to us if we did force her to move. 144 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: She also would figure it out, as she is a 145 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: smart woman. She would love out. She would love out 146 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: of our house, not our life. I'm always her dad. 147 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: On that note, this is the dad writing, not the mom. 148 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: As some of you a thought. Also not worried about 149 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: violence from the neighbor's wife. Unfortunately, she is a very 150 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: sweet woman, which makes everything worse. But I wouldn't put 151 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: my daughter in danger. I confirm my daughter hasn't told 152 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: the husband we know. I will be watching his behavior 153 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: as I'm not sure how he will react last thing, 154 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: as I find it funny, I was drinking water, not 155 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: alcohol when I saw her. I woke up and went 156 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: to the kitchen and saw from the window. But I 157 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: appreciate the links to AA. I really should have made 158 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: my original post longer. Sorry for all the edit. I'll 159 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: update after I talk with my daughter. There is no update. 160 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: There is no other is no update. He's ever talk 161 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: with the daughter. We will never know. 162 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 2: Maybe you'll never know unless there's an update. 163 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, But I like our solution better. I think our 164 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: solution is is like a happy medium. 165 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. 166 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: I think yeah, Like after thinking about it for a second, 167 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: it's like, okay, yeah, maybe not like threatening to kick 168 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: out the daughter. It's too extreme and kind of like 169 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: maybe the daughter is who knows what's going on? 170 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Is she looking for validation? Is? 171 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, why did she feel the need to go to 172 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: this neighbor? 173 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: And I think that is a good thing if you're 174 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 3: able to like sit down with your child like as 175 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: going on. 176 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: What's going on? Like, let me hear you. 177 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm your friend, you know, I'm so I liked I 178 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: really liked Op's pivot and adjustment there. 179 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: From like like walking it back from being like out 180 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: of my house. 181 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: And this does not at all in any way, in any. 182 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Shape or form. 183 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: Excuse this because she should know better, but she is 184 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: twenty one baking stupid young people mistakes, and so it's like, 185 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: all right. 186 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Let me let me help guide you as your parents 187 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: do this. 188 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: But are very curious what all of you would do. 189 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: I would love to know your answers in the comments below, 190 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: but if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 191 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: We love you and see it tomorrow. 192 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: This is an episode from Deep Within the Archives. 193 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Time for Okop Rewam. 194 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Exce's divorce lawyer says, send three years of complete financials 195 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: or else me, here's one thousand McDonald's receipts. Okop, this 196 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: is Okayop. I'm Samuel Donad, I'm and we tell the 197 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: funniest stories on the world Wide Web Web Web. You 198 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: remember when, like in the nineties, people are like, oh, 199 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: world Wide Web, what's up? 200 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: What's this? Newfound computers connected? 201 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Why would I look up a recipe? On my computer 202 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: when I could just open a recipe book. 203 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: I got some good old fashioned paper right here. It 204 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: never breaks, never breaks all the way for computers. 205 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: I gotta yeah, I gotta way around, and you freaking 206 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: uh gotta gotta plug it in. It needs a christ 207 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: to day. This paper does just Man. 208 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: We went from from old people to just straight ledites. 209 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Uh. But the old people in the laites were wrong. 210 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: The internet is great because it helps us find the 211 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 1: funniest stories on the internet exactly. And uh uh, John, 212 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: Actually I have a I have a law one for you. 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: I like, I like something I can sing my teeth into, 214 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: you know, a little meat on it. 215 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: Exce's divorce lawyer says, send three years of complete financials 216 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: or else me, here's one thousand McDonald's receipts. 217 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: Man, is this is this the guy from Super sized fear? 218 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: What's going on to McDonald's for a long time. This 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: happened several years ago when my ex and I were 220 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: going through a heated divorce slash custody battle. 221 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: A yeah, not not mice. 222 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: While we were married, we had a couple of conversations 223 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: about how rich people hide their assets to avoid paying taxes. 224 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I've never had enough assets to do this, but she 225 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: somehow got the idea that I was and told her 226 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: attorney that I was laundering money and a hiding income. 227 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: Man's got like Ozark? So freaking Oh? Actually Ozark season 228 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: four is out. Have we watched that? 229 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: I have not watched. 230 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. This is an ad for Netflix. 231 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: But the problem is I can only see Michael Bateman 232 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: as the guy from Arrested Development. 233 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we could never look at him the same way. Again, 234 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: he plays a pretty good kind of like semi evil character, 235 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, he launders money. That's that's that's a joke. 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: It was more likely the heat of the moment, as 237 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: divorce slash custody battles often come down to. And the 238 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: thing is I couldn't even afford my own attorney, so 239 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: I represented myself, which should have been an indicator that 240 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: he's not hiding massive amount of Money's awaar or. 241 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: He's a mastermind genius, and that's to throw people off his. 242 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Sell John's thinking like a true criminals. Let's look at 243 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: his tax returns, Irs, look him up. 244 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: Got I don't know. 245 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: I don't need the irs looking into myself any more 246 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: than they already. 247 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: Her lawyer wasn't a total butthole, but he clearly was 248 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: out to get me, and he talked down to me 249 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: like I didn't deserve to breathe the same air as him. God, 250 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: one day I get a letter in the mail from 251 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: him requesting an updated income declarations form and three years 252 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: of financials. It had a long list of things to include, 253 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: so which which sounds terrible, like he has to get everything, 254 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: all these things put together sounds like a drag. I 255 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: own a communications tech company that was in super startup 256 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: phase back then. Money was already tight. I was trying 257 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: to get this business off the ground with no financing, 258 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: and I was finishing my MBA with scholarships and loans. 259 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: So paying for copies and post it or driving thirty 260 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: miles to his office meant eating peanut butter and saltines 261 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: for a week. So I called him to explain my situation. 262 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: He all but called me a liar and didn't believe 263 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I couldn't afford it. I was put off by that, 264 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: and I said that it was taking time away from 265 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: my business I needed to handle, to which he replied, 266 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget this. Well, according to your income declarations, 267 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: you're not that busy. What do you do all day? 268 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: He then said, if he didn't get these documents, he 269 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: would consider my previous filings as fraudulent. Tell the judge, 270 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: contact the DA, and also alert the state tax agency 271 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: and IRS. 272 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he's unleashing the hounds. God's that's unleashing 273 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: Satan's army. 274 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: I know, Jesus, IRS and company. Not somebody want to 275 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: bump into No thanks, probably an empty threat, but I'm 276 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: no lawyer, really sure. The facts is one of the 277 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: services my company provides, and at this time it was 278 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: relatively unknown. So I asked him if he has a 279 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: fax machine. He said he had a fact scanner. Copy 280 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: your device? And what law off doesn't now have a 281 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: fax machine? Which like talking down to him? What a 282 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: d bag? And then I suddenly got an idea. Okay, 283 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,359 Speaker 1: I said to him, I'll put together in facts everything 284 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: I can. Okay, mother effort. You want three years of financials? 285 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: You got it. 286 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: I scanned to PDF every receipt I could find. A 287 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: McDonald's receipt from five years ago. F it will hurt 288 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: to include it. CVS receipt, It's three miles long. Perfect, 289 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: they get one dollar off tooth based company. They get 290 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: one dollar off tooth based coupons too. 291 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: Wow, he's doing him such a favor. 292 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: I know what a guy. I downloaded every bank statement, 293 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: credit card statement, purchase orders from vendors, and every invoice 294 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: I sent to clients. I printed to PDF the entire 295 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: IR a three year accounting journal, monthly quarter monthly, quarterly, 296 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: annual balance sheets, cash flow statements, profit and losses. Not 297 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: only did I pdf three years of tax filings, but 298 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: every single letter I received from the IRS and state 299 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: tax agency, including the inserts advising me of my rights. 300 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: It took a while, but I was a few days 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: ahead of the deadline. I made a cover page black 302 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: background with white lettering wherever I could basically waste. 303 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: It just destroying ink reserves. Oh my god. 304 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I included separator pages in all caps in the biggest, 305 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: boldest font that would fit on the page in the 306 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: landscape twenty xx receipts, twenty xx taxes like twenty nineteen, 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, et cetera. I merged everything into a single 308 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty plus page compressed PDF and sent 309 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the documents using my epact system. Every hour or so, 310 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: I received a status email saying the facts failed. Huh, 311 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: that's weird. Well, they're getting this document. So I changed 312 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: the system configuration to unlimited reach eyes after failures to 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: keep redialing it until it went through. Weird, I was 314 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: still getting status email failures. I'll delete the failure emails 315 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: and keep success and keep the successful ones after it 316 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: eventually goes through. I thought problem solved. Two days later, 317 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: a lady from his office called and asked me to 318 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: stop sending the facts. Their fact scanner printer copier had 319 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: been printing non stop twenty four to seven and kept 320 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: getting paper jams, kept running out of ink, and they 321 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: had to keep shutting it off and back on to print. 322 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: I explained to her sweetly, as sweetly as I could, 323 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: that her boss told me to send this by the deadline, 324 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: or else he would call the DA and IRS. Since 325 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: I didn't want to call from the DA or the IRS, 326 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: I would keep sending until I got a success confirmation. 327 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I suggested they just not print until my facts complete, 328 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: but she didn't like that. She asked me to email. 329 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: But she asked me to email the documents. I told 330 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: a little white lie that my email wouldn't allow an 331 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: attachment that big unless her boss in writing agreed to 332 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: cancel the request or agreed to reimburse me for my 333 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: cost to print in ship. I said, I would continue 334 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: to fact until they confirm they have received every single 335 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: last page. 336 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I got to applaud you. That is beautiful. 337 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,479 Speaker 1: It is great, all right, But what is the response? Uh? Oh? 338 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: She put me on hold, and the attorney gets on 339 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: the line. He said, forget sending the financials. I said 340 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: that I would need this in writing, so I will 341 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: keep sending the facts until he has sent that to me. 342 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 343 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: He asked me to stop faxing and he would send 344 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: it in writing, and I said, send it in writing 345 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: first and then I'll stop. There we go, long moment 346 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: of silence. Click. After twenty minutes, I received an email 347 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: from his assistant with an attached signed letter in PDF 348 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: that I no longer needed to provide financials. The letter 349 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: then threatened to pursue sanctions in court or assume me 350 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: for interfering with their business for printing every single page 351 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. Every time I saw him after that, 352 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: the lawyer never brought up any sanctions, lawsuits, criminal referrals, 353 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: or financials. Ever. 354 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:35,479 Speaker 2: Again that is so beautiful. 355 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: Like we've all had moments in our lives like kind 356 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: of similar to that where it's like, oh, this tax 357 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 3: thing is wrong or like you need to like redo 358 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 3: this form or whatever, and they're like they just don't care. 359 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: They're just like, Nope, this is what it is. The 360 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: fact that he got such sweet, delicious revenge is. 361 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Just delicious justice. Oh I'm living my glicious compliance for 362 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: a reason. 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