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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast wants you to show some

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Speaker 1: damn respect this Black Monday. I mean, these are people, man, exactly.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Dan hansis heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, and people don't

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Speaker 2: understand that. And it's not even Black Monday. How many

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Speaker 2: times do we have to come on the air the

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Speaker 2: day after the regular season and remind you that Black

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Speaker 2: Monday is defunct.

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Speaker 3: This is New Horizons Monday.

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Speaker 4: It's good sometimes when the host of your show gets it,

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Speaker 4: like this guy gets it.

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Speaker 3: He really does. Like Dan, let's start here.

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Speaker 5: Dan is a bastion of respect towards elders, towards people

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Speaker 5: of authority and NFL coach types.

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Speaker 3: So I think it starts with you and I have a.

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Speaker 6: Take, and I just want to say, because it is

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Speaker 6: this is all kind of.

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Speaker 3: An ongoing bit.

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Speaker 6: Because and Greg likes to align himself with these people too,

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Speaker 6: where like this is one of the hardest days. These

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Speaker 6: are people and the stabs and all this. I totally

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Speaker 6: agree with that. Like people losing their jobs, no matter

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Speaker 6: what the job is, is bad news. This is different

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Speaker 6: in the sense that the coaching life you sign up

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Speaker 6: for this. Unfortunately, it's a transient type business where you

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Speaker 6: never stay one place for too long. Look at Bill Beljake,

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Speaker 6: you how long was he in New England? Greg twenty

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Speaker 6: four years and counting? Perhaps, who knows, We'll get to

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Speaker 6: that in a bit. How many guys have been with

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Speaker 6: that staff has been constantly churning. It just that's the

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Speaker 6: great question. You're just moving and everything's moving, and I.

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Speaker 4: Believe I believe his assistant has been there. And then

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Speaker 4: the other ones are the ones that came out of

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Speaker 3: I would believe those are the.

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Speaker 4: Only way to say it, the only the only people

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Speaker 4: the whole time, but technically technically been there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just say that again, just so we have it.

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Speaker 4: Ever, I had a different way of saying it, that

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Speaker 6: Anyway, All I'm saying is it is by its nature,

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Speaker 6: it's you're always moving around and hopefully, uh, these men

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Speaker 6: It is kind of a you kind of just rotate

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Speaker 5: It's also like high level executive transactional business, where like

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Speaker 5: if someone is working at like rite aid and they

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Speaker 4: That is why I think people push back that vast

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Speaker 4: man I'm saying, the head coaches, the head coaches and.

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Speaker 5: I get that into my my heart goes out all

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Speaker 5: out that that I get that sometimes, like have you

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Speaker 5: like it can like refocus make you think about what

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Speaker 5: not always the worst thing on the planet. So maybe

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Speaker 5: it's a great thing. Maybe we should celebrate.

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Speaker 6: Well that's why we call it, yeah, not black Monday.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna get into it all.

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Speaker 6: And then we're gonna check in before we say goodbye

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Speaker 6: here And by the way, if you haven't gotten caught up,

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Speaker 6: we just dropped the week eighteen recap banger two hours

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Speaker 6: of just the Mastery of the Craft, so you.

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Speaker 3: Check that out.

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Speaker 6: We're now we're gonna get you caught up where everything

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Speaker 6: stands in terms of personnel, and also everybody cleaning out.

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Speaker 3: Their lockers that didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: So you have a bunch of pressers going on today,

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Speaker 6: a lot going on, and we will close the door

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Speaker 6: on our preseason predictions. In the regular season, check in

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Speaker 6: on our over unders, checked back see where we ended

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Speaker 6: up with a running back draft. Remember that that was fun,

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Speaker 6: and also our sandwich props. But let's start with the news.

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Speaker 6: And we learned late last night when we were recording

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Speaker 3: Let's hear a little bit from the owner Blank.

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Speaker 6: This is not from PBS and public radios coverage, just

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Speaker 6: as from w XIA. They have started their search, but

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Speaker 4: The most interesting part of the Falcons day, I think

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Speaker 4: Will be involved in the head coach search, but his

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Speaker 4: So that to me sounds like heard that before. It's

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Speaker 4: Rassini among others, have reported that they're interested in Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 4: which just gets me thinking, like who is putting that

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Speaker 4: Is it the Falcons letting Bill Belichick know that?

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Speaker 4: It is curious to me our our network hasn't quite

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of just being for it, But you

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Speaker 3: It's been it's been tenuous.

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Speaker 8: As far as any you know, decisions or direction or

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Speaker 3: But how it's.

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Speaker 8: Done, you know, meet with Robert like I always do,

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Speaker 6: Okay, So, but it is he's saying that. But this

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Speaker 6: then people want Bill Belichick, this thing has to move.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so he's been there for twenty four years,

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Speaker 3: Cool. Yeah, I would have been cool.

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Speaker 5: But it's not the Jets, and he didn't decide didn't

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Speaker 6: Ever always stated reported yesterday that Belichick essentially has the

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Speaker 3: They can't. He would have to go agree to it.

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Speaker 4: So I do think you can take some interesting things

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Speaker 4: He never says that, so right there, He's never had

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Speaker 4: to before now, Dave, he's never taught Conra. That was

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Speaker 3: He knows it.

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Speaker 4: And he also says, as we tape this Monday afternoon,

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Speaker 4: it was very much Bill Belichick saying, if you wanna

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Speaker 4: fire me, you're gonna have to come do it. Like

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Speaker 4: the whole trade thing, why would he help them take

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Speaker 4: assets away from the team. He's gotta go. That's it's

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Speaker 4: not it's not gonna happen. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 4: not be willing to do that either. He might be like,

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Speaker 3: Well, football is completely different than basketball.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts on that knew that was coming go ahead?

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Speaker 9: Okay, So I it's just's just helping with the search,

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Speaker 5: But you're Josh Harris and like you're doing what I

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Speaker 3: Like I thought it was instructive how much.

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Speaker 6: Here's Josh Oris on the path toward new leadership.

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Speaker 10: Even though this season was hard for me and hard

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Speaker 10: And I'm lucky enough to be supported by an amazing

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Speaker 6: So there you go. I think the best thing you

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Speaker 5: And they have requested to talk to an absolute flood

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Speaker 4: The thing that was interesting though, is they said they

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Speaker 3: There you go, and other news.

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Speaker 6: So I mentioned the Panthers and it's been obviously a

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Speaker 4: It never makes sense to keep the GM, and that's

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Speaker 3: It's like your art.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's just they're sending the request, but I do

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Speaker 5: I think it's gonna be like the most interesting coaching

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Speaker 5: it's like you like coaches that are smart, and like

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Speaker 3: They've got your saddle with Bryce Young.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to necessarily know these names that well,

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Speaker 4: That coaching staff under Frank Greg they love to brag,

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying he's making enough money for the next

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Speaker 6: all right. In other news, Mike Frable a lot of

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Speaker 3: I don't know we're for a percentage. Oh, okay, that's good.

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Speaker 4: the Titans bend to my will if I'm Mike Rabel

439
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Speaker 4: and get what I want, and he might want a

440
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 4: little different structure in terms of the front office.

441
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Speaker 5: He seemed agitated dating back to the AJ Brown trade.

442
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Speaker 3: I mean, he was very like you could see him

443
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 3: visually like.

444
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 5: Annoyed in that during that draft process when they traded

445
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Speaker 5: him away. And I would whenever I hear like coach

446
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 5: and GM have some issues, it's just like I kind

447
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 5: of automatically just buy that as that's absolutely true.

448
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: And Rabel seems to.

449
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 5: Like be slightly annoyed with the way that things have

450
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 5: gone with the Titans behind the scenes for a while,

451
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 5: and so I had put it at like sixty five percent.

452
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Speaker 5: He stays, I think if the Patriots job came open,

453
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Speaker 5: there's gonna be pursuit of him from Craft.

454
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Speaker 4: I could see that potentially. Here's that My hot take

455
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 4: is Mike Rabel someone to be excited about if you're

456
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Speaker 4: a Patriots fan. We're five years in. I'm just thinking offense, offense, offense, offense.

457
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Speaker 4: He's never found And it's the same reason why I

458
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 4: don't think Belichick is the right guy to keep right now,

459
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Speaker 4: because like he just hasn't had answers on offense. It's

460
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Speaker 4: just been this old school sort of thinking and Rabel

461
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 4: cycled through all these coordinators in Tennessee's never really hit

462
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Speaker 4: on one. It's I just that's not what I want

463
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Speaker 4: as a fan.

464
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Speaker 3: Well quite frankly, That's why.

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Speaker 6: I've been pushing back a little bit on the Antonio

466
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Speaker 6: Pierce thing in general. And I have it with my

467
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 6: own coach, a defensive coordinator, and sala like, if you

468
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 6: don't have an offensive mind a place they can count on,

469
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 6: Like I feel like a defensive coach only goes yeah,

470
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Speaker 6: but so far.

471
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Speaker 5: Like Frank Reich, Josh McDaniels. Sure, like Arthur Smith or

472
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Speaker 5: three of the coaches that just completely fired and failed.

473
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Speaker 3: Rabol's a good head coach. Those total disasters that head

474
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Speaker 3: coach though in terms.

475
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Speaker 5: Of but Rabel is a good like Yes, he's defensive minded,

476
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Speaker 5: but Rabel is a good head coach. And I'd push

477
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 5: back a little bit that when they had Derrick Henry,

478
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 5: Tannelhill and AJ Brown, like they had something going on there.

479
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: It's just they kind of aged out of it.

480
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Speaker 6: Doesn't if he doesn't stay with the Titans, I'd be

481
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 6: shocked if he didn't get another.

482
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he I think he would be the bell

483
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Speaker 4: of the ball and I think the Patriots would be interested.

484
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like, man, that offensive line was bad

485
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 4: for four or five year and that I do want

486
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Speaker 4: someone that is able to problem solve or like.

487
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Speaker 5: A well, hence's annoyment with the previous GM and maybe

488
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 5: the current one too though.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's only been there for one year too, so

490
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: I think that feels a little more personal or maybe

491
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: just that very able doesn't.

492
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Speaker 3: Like that's been reported juice.

493
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and an arranged marriage that hasn't taken and that's been

494
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 6: part of the drama. There in other news the Colts

495
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 6: they missed out on the playoffs and heartbreaking fashion on

496
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Speaker 6: Saturday night. But coach Shane Steiken is not planning to

497
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 6: make any major changes to his coaching staff, and that

498
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Speaker 6: includes defensive coordinator. There's been speculation around DC Gus Bradley,

499
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Speaker 6: but Stiken said on Monday, I believe in continuity, I'll

500
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Speaker 6: say that.

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Speaker 3: He inherited Gus Bradley.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would say that like for some of

503
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Speaker 5: the defenses around the league where it's like we need

504
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 5: to make a coordinator switch Green Bay other places, like

505
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't point to the Cults in my top five

506
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 5: of that list, like their defense was act even like

507
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: an asset at times.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Gus Bradley wasn't a big problem there.

509
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 4: No, they've been fine. And then they worked together in

510
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: San Diego too. That was San Diego right where Gus

511
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: Bradley and Steichen were both there at the same time.

512
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Speaker 4: He's a likable guy, Gus Bradley. He's always surviving, high energy.

513
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Speaker 6: Don't don't look at his head coaching record in Jacksonville.

514
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Speaker 6: I think it might be the worst percentage wise, but

515
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 6: he is a good DC and has been for a

516
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Speaker 6: long time now. In other news, a DC opening is

517
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 6: open in the Meadowlands because the Giants have parted ways

518
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: with Wink Martinel. It's being called a issue where Martinell

519
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 6: resigned as the d C. But it is no secret

520
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 6: that Wink and Brian Dabele, their relationship is the center

521
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Speaker 6: of this.

522
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Speaker 3: How this all went down.

523
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Speaker 6: It was reported during the season that the two were

524
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 6: in a quote bad place, and now Wink after, you know,

525
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 6: he was really he was really celebrated as was Dable

526
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 6: last year forget the Giants back to respectability. But the

527
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 6: team sank to twenty seventh overall defense this year, even

528
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 6: though they tied for the NFL lead and takeaways with

529
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Speaker 6: thirty one.

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Speaker 3: So Wink is a lifer.

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Speaker 6: Wink will find a job as well, but he's done

532
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Speaker 6: with Dable and company.

533
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 3: These things change fast.

534
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 4: Reports early this morning from our network from ESPN across

535
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 4: the board sources saying the expectation is Don Wing Martindale

536
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 4: will return. Hour two later, Brian Dabele gets on the

537
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 4: podium is asked about it, says, yeah, I expect both

538
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 4: Don Wink Martindale and Mike Kafka, my offensive coordinator, to return,

539
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 4: and by the afternoon, the word is out they fired

540
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: his assistance and he's resigned. They might have done the

541
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 4: thing where they fired the rest of his staff, and

542
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: then it was like, we'll keep you if you want,

543
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 4: but they knew that he wouldn't do that, and he

544
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 4: goes out a winner with a nice game plan stuffing

545
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Speaker 4: the Eagles. Who knows, maybe the Eagles would want Wing

546
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: Martindale next year or next week, like an upgrade from

547
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 4: what they currently have.

548
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: I like vic I think he could do the job.

549
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 6: In other Giants news, by the way, Saquon Barkley skipped

550
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 6: his exit interview telling reporters they know.

551
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: How to reach me.

552
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 6: So that sounds like, essentially there's a lot of speculation

553
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 6: that Saquon's ready for a fresh start, and perhaps he

554
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 6: is after playing that one year deal where a lot

555
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 6: of drama around his contract, played through injury and had

556
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 6: a nice season and he's probably looking for a fresh start,

557
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 6: but you never know. Money talks us.

558
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 4: He did all these good byes in the locker room

559
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: and everything, and skipping the exit interview at samee they

560
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 4: know how to reach me. Yeah, pretty strong stick that

561
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 4: he was numb to them, possibly using the franchise tag

562
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: and again, which actually, isn't that nat idea numb to it?

563
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: Like he would deal with it.

564
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: It's a lot of money, But excuse me, I don't

565
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 4: think he's expecting a long term deal.

566
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Speaker 3: Sounded like he wants out.

567
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Speaker 5: It shows you how fast the regular season shot by,

568
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 5: because I feel like we were just dealing with this

569
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 5: like offseason draw in Saquon about.

570
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: Four hours ago. The rosehal one oh one free agents.

571
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Speaker 6: If Barkley ends up on that list, is he a

572
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Speaker 6: top eight, top five?

573
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 4: It's a really well right now because no tag has

574
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: been issued. No, because it's a really good list right now.

575
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: But he would be in the top fifteen, and that's

576
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 4: where he was last year. And I think he looks

577
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: even better than he did a year ago. Had a

578
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: nice year.

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Speaker 3: Put him on the Chiefs or something. Let's go, let's fly.

580
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 6: Uh well maybe not the Chiefs. I would like to

581
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 6: see him on it.

582
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: Why not?

583
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: The Chiefs are now in old Patriots mode whenever a

584
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: player becomes available, that's kind of spacey.

585
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 6: Then I got a check on He's like, like, who's

586
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 6: a who's a contender that really could use.

587
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: A Saquon Barkley. Put him on one of those teams

588
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 3: and let's see what happens.

589
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 6: I like some Texans Bronx native all right, Texans, yeah

590
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: they yeah.

591
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: They could use the running back. Okay.

592
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 6: In other Metal Lands news, the Jets had their end

593
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: of season press conferences. Everybody spoke, including Aaron Rodgers, who

594
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 6: told the reporters the number one thing the Jets need

595
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 6: to do heading into next year is quote, flush the bulls,

596
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 6: which I find interesting because Rogers is kind of at

597
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 6: the center of so much of the bulls round this team.

598
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 6: I mean, we were just coming off Jimmy kimmelgate and

599
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: and the and all the every week and part of

600
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: this is about the way our league is covered.

601
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: But like every time he does.

602
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 6: The McAfee interview, it's a storyline, and some of these

603
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 6: storylines don't have traction, but then some do, like when

604
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 6: he says that Jimmy Kimmel might be on the Epstein

605
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: list that gets released and it becomes kind of an

606
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 6: embarrassing situation, which, by the way, I didn't hear from

607
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 6: the Jets on that. I heard Disney and ESPN spoke

608
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 6: out and and McAfee did damage control on that, but

609
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: I didn't hear anything from the Jets, which again reminds

610
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 6: you the reason you didn't is because Aaron Rodgers runs

611
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 6: the Jets. So the Jets aren't going apologize for Aaron

612
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 6: Rodgers saying anything because Aaron Rodgers doesn't want them to anyway.

613
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: Robert Saw Robert sala is the head coach, kind of

614
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers kind of the head coach too. But here

615
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 6: he is when asked about man he's entering year four

616
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 6: without ever making the playoffs. Robert saw, they gave everybody

617
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 6: a mulligan is next year kind of.

618
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: All or nothing. You see next year as a playoffs

619
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Speaker 3: or else rich some meaning.

620
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Speaker 12: I always feel that way. I always feel like we

621
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 12: need to win.

622
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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 12: It's, uh, this profession, it's a results oriented. No one

624
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 12: really cares about process or progress. It's it's about winning

625
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 12: and so so for me personally, I always expect to win.

626
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just shifted completely into coach speak at

627
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: this point. Yeah, he's agays.

628
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Speaker 6: There's been times this year where he just didn't have

629
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 6: answers and he would just like stare back the reporters

630
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 6: with nothing to say. I thought Sol was exposed a

631
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 6: little bit this year. But we'll see what happens with

632
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 6: the quarterback.

633
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: Given their setup, I think it's the right move to

634
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: stay the course.

635
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: Do you think it's the right move with Nathaniel Hackett,

636
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: like I would say specifically. And that's the one thing

637
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: where it feels toxic because.

638
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett thinks it's nice to see you out here.

639
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: It's obviously Aaron's boy.

640
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: But it's like that, can't we look at the evidence

641
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: to suggest that we need to make an upgrader.

642
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: Change, but we're not going to. And that's what where

643
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: it starts to feel ridiculous.

644
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 4: And also, you know, Salla says, you know, in this business,

645
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: you know it, the only thing that people care about

646
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: is results, not progress, YadA YadA. He's eighteen and thirty three.

647
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: Joe Douglas is twenty seven and fifty six. So they

648
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: are getting a long leaf, yes, kind of an unprecedented leash.

649
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: And I just I cringe with so many of Sola's

650
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 4: press conferences now because you know, he also said yesterday,

651
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 4: I think that they exercised a lot.

652
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 6: Of demons this year. It's like, bro, what are you

653
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 6: talking about? Because he beat Bill Belichick in Week eighteen.

654
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 6: The worst Patriots teams of all time, like what other

655
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 6: If you want to count that, I'll even give it.

656
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 6: I'll be nice to you because the quarterback got hurt

657
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: and play for. But tell me what other demons were

658
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 6: exercised in your tenure since week one.

659
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 5: I feel like we opened the door and in came

660
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 5: a dude, I uh talking about.

661
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 4: I got to give my old boss Florio some credit.

662
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: I love his headline talking about Rogers. Here the headline,

663
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers urges Jets to shed bs uh, teases Tuesday

664
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: ESPN appearance to talk Jimmy Kimmel.

665
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: There you go, because yeah, Rogers said, I'm not going to.

666
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: Talk to you guys about it to rich Semini, but

667
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: watch on Tuesday.

668
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: I will address it. Then.

669
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 6: That's what That's part of what you signed up for.

670
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 6: And I was willing and still am willing to live

671
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 6: with it. But the what you were supposed to get

672
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: is also Aaron Rodgers on the on the field. Yeah,

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 6: it's it still blows my mind that I get all this,

674
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 6: but not the I'd never got to see him play

675
00:32:59,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 6: on the field yet.

676
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: And and here we are yet hard knock. That was

677
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 3: an awesome, awesome run. It was a great summer all.

678
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 6: Right in other news, Dennis Allen not a very popular

679
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 6: man in New Orleans. Even after a strong close finish.

680
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: The Saints finished nine and eight second in the NFC

681
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 6: South did not make the playoffs though for the third

682
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 6: straight year. However, Dennis Allen said at his end ofca's

683
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 6: news conference that when asked if he expects to remain

684
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 6: head coach, that is my expectation. Yes, So Dennis Allen,

685
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 6: as of right now, he's feeling pretty safe. And since

686
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: we're talking Saints, I'm really just I can't I can't

687
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 6: get enough of Jameis Winston, who was the quarterback on

688
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 6: the field when they are in a victory formation and

689
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 6: then pivot into a handoff to get Jamal Williams's first

690
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 6: touchdown of the year because he's been such a warrior

691
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 6: for them. By the way, one take about that all right,

692
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 6: like if you really feel Jamal deserves it, and he

693
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 6: then line up in the I formation and run it

694
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 6: to then also do the trick play though to Pearl

695
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 6: Harvard on top that one, that's a bridge too far.

696
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 6: But listen, Jameis Winston was at the controls, so what

697
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 6: do you expect. Here's a little bit of Jamis after

698
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 6: the game because he was holding court and he was

699
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 6: enjoying himself, and I just I love listening.

700
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: To him talk. Well.

701
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 14: I apologize to Day because the play was was victory.

702
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: But I also explained to d A it was a

703
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 3: team decision.

704
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 14: Yet and I think when you're at the team around

705
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 14: and I actually got say, guys, like, what do you

706
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 14: what do you want to do? We know how much

707
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 14: ja mom means to this team, and I understood from

708
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 14: DA's perspective, So I give him that, but didn't condone

709
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 14: it at all.

710
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 13: You know he didn't. However, Uh we decided as a.

711
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 14: Team to do it, and we got an interception to

712
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 14: the one yard linee you know, like so if if

713
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 14: we were scored, what would have been disrespected?

714
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 5: I I think it's the most enjoyable thing that's happened

715
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 5: in months.

716
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: I love he with all due respect.

717
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 6: It's like the fool that doesn't realize really what he's

718
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 6: saying is he's speaking that it's actually makes it worse

719
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 6: for your coach after you already sold.

720
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 3: Him out on the field.

721
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 6: Then to be like to explain it to the media

722
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 6: in a way that actually made does Ald come off worse?

723
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: Like we decided as a team what we were going

724
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 6: to do with no disrespect to DA. It's like, I

725
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: don't know, man. And then to top it off, here

726
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 6: is I just you want to talk about comedy? It

727
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 6: got better, Mark, Because then there's some other journal who

728
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: comes in. I don't know what his deal is. I

729
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 6: don't know if he's a Satan beat writer or a

730
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 6: Falcon's beat writer, or who he is.

731
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: A Saints guy. I'll try to find the name.

732
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 6: He starts to pontificate about his opinions and his feelings respectfully?

733
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 13: Do you think we were great that? Well? You do

734
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 13: have to play these guys twice a year, that's all.

735
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 13: I'm saying. Music in the back, I know what I'm

736
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 13: talking about. You know, somebody's got to fight these guys.

737
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 11: Try to see here, that's all.

738
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 13: How do you feel about it? To me? How you

739
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 13: feel about it? Don't you feel good about it? Because

740
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 13: you got to these guys twice a year?

741
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 14: But what about it makes you not feel good about it?

742
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 13: To kneeling up, we're asking my opinion, Yes, I think

743
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 13: you should have kneeled it up. Okay, Well, I'm just

744
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 13: telling you as respectfully is I can't you answered my

745
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 13: question as respectfully as you and I not agree as.

746
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 8: Respectfully as I can respects you just a meal.

747
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 13: The entire team made that decision, Okay, so you disagree

748
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 13: with that entire team, so thank you. No, I'm just

749
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 13: thinking I'm being honest and respectful.

750
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: And that's what I am doing, and that's what I

751
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 3: am doing.

752
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 6: And the siren and the club music going off in

753
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 6: the background.

754
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 3: I just can't make it up there.

755
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: There was one part that was that part of that clip,

756
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 4: and I recommend anyone find the whole three minutes. It's

757
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 4: great where he was like, where he did kind of

758
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 4: let the mask fall out a little bit, where he's like,

759
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 4: so the you know, the first forty one points that

760
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 4: didn't that make you upset? It was the last seven

761
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: that did it. It was just like, I love it,

762
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: but you know what I did think it was kind

763
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 4: of telling. Many many Saints players have been tweeting out today,

764
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 4: from Jamal williams Uh to your old friend mark ingram

765
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 4: My dog Mark with a C to Jimmy Graham just

766
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 4: how much they love Jamis Winston and and and that

767
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: he's one of the best teammates ever. Here'sjoy Graham, This

768
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 4: man is the best teammate ever had get off his back,

769
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 4: loves the city, this game, and bodies everything you can ask.

770
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: Was a rare situation. We all take responsibility. No one

771
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: thought it would get out blown out of a portion.

772
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 4: Also the Falcons, Yeah, that's what a lot of it is.

773
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 6: The I think the robbery Listen, I would love to

774
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 6: be friends with Jameis Winston. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna

775
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: win a playoff game before Jameis Winston does. Though, like there,

776
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's a great guy and a great teammate,

777
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 6: but he is a goober man.

778
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

779
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 5: I kind of like, like, I know, I really enjoyed

780
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 5: he's like goobery answered.

781
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: He went through that conversation that respect.

782
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: He's like Dennis Allen does not condone it. However, well,

783
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 5: like doubling back into his own logic, it.

784
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: Was over the second he goes, yeah, I apologize, but

785
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 4: it was a team decision, which is so funny because

786
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: like Tennis, Allen's the coach of the team and he's like, no,

787
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: this is our team.

788
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 6: But I don't does he realize does he realize in

789
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 6: his in what he's saying that he is essentially selling out.

790
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I think they know he knows.

791
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: I think he knows and this was I'm taking this

792
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: from some of the writers that he knows he's not

793
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: going to be back there, he knows he might not

794
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: be a favorite at Dentis. I don't think any of

795
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: these things are made in a vacuum. So when people

796
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 4: saying like, then his.

797
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: Alnd's lost a little bit of the control, I think

798
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: that's true.

799
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: I think, Oh, I mean, I think like Jamis is

800
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: just saying, like, I'm out of here.

801
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 6: We're gonna do whatever the hell we want, right, you

802
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 6: know you could. I know everything's awesome. So I'm just

803
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: saying that was kind of a messed up thing to do.

804
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: That's all I hear that. I mean, I think the

805
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: interview was awesome. Yeah, it makes I'm just saying I

806
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 6: know that everything is always like, oh, it's so amazing.

807
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: Everything is amazing.

808
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 6: That was a tough, tough situation for Arthur Smith, a

809
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: tough situation for the Falcons there at.

810
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: The end of his tenure. And then, yes, you know.

811
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 6: That there are elements of it that I would I'd

812
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 6: be if it was your team, you'd be furious, but

813
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 6: that way, but that's the rivalry. Also, the Falcons and

814
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 6: the Saints, and it makes next to even more exciting.

815
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 4: I think Falcons fans are so mad at that team.

816
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: They were like, we deserve it, and I think we

817
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: as fans, we would keep it all in perspective, which

818
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: is part of what I enjoyed about Jamis as Yes,

819
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 4: in the context of what went on, I guess it's

820
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: a serious conversation, but it's not the most serious saying

821
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: that has ever happened in the world.

822
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: And you could almost see he was having a little

823
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: fun with it.

824
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 6: The wild eyes he has too. I love wild eyes.

825
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 6: Jes says, all right, let's take a break and then

826
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 6: we'll close the door on some regular season predictions and

827
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: then get out of here.

828
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: Yes, the familiar chimes chimes' is a harp. Those that

829
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 3: seem more like a harp, what would you call that? Then?

830
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 5: I've never played a harp, though, so that I'm not

831
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 5: coming from a place of authority.

832
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 3: A plucking and.

833
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 6: That's a plucking of the strings of the harp, which

834
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: means it could only mean one thing. It's new Horizons Monday. Greg,

835
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 6: you were in a band. It was an acid, prog rock,

836
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 6: emo outfit. Did you ever play the harp with Delaware.

837
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: No, there were a variety of instruments. We had some

838
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 4: talented musicians, Andy Moody, Kristin Hinkley, Jeff lash I was

839
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: not a talented musician.

840
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 3: What was your role?

841
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 4: My sister in law, Karen, though, can play the cello.

842
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 4: That's I don't know. Is that a harp, that's a cello.

843
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: Your brother is a gifted guitarist.

844
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he is. He's a what do you call

845
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: when you play a bunch of stuff? He is a

846
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: in every man's instrument. But yes, guitar and piano certainly.

847
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 6: Uh do you Perhaps you should have recruited him to

848
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 6: Delaware and maybe you'd be touring the world right now.

849
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: But his music is a little more refined below now.

850
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: Back then, though, he was playing clubs and stuff with like,

851
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: you know, white sneak type music. But yes, he did

852
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 4: end up kind of conducting, writing classical music.

853
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 6: He ended your brother an actual musician. What did he

854
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 6: how old?

855
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: He's older? Right? Five years older? Yeah? What was his

856
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: first reaction when he told him that you were in

857
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: a band.

858
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: He was in college and couldn't have cared less and

859
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 4: probably didn't ask me any questions for about a six year.

860
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: Well, I mean he was off in Montreal doing it,

861
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: but you were. You were like the lead singer, lead vocals. Yeah,

862
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 3: he was on totally. There was other people would sing,

863
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: but yes I was the most were the principal songwriter

864
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: of Delaware as well. No, Andy Moody was, but I

865
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: was number two. We were kind of like Lennon McCartney.

866
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 4: Sure, I would say Andy Moody quietly was the key

867
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 4: behind the whole operation.

868
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: But yes, I wrote some songs as well, such age

869
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: give us a title.

870
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: Nordic track. I remember that good one Nordic track.

871
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 3: You closed the show with Nordick track. That's a big hit. Yeah,

872
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 3: when will you release the tapes? Finally where we move on?

873
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 3: I don't have the tapes, not aware of any tapes.

874
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 5: Why did you write a song about a treadmill a society?

875
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 3: Was this feeling like you're ocular tread and you can't

876
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: get all.

877
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 5: No, that's a good I'm wondering if that's you felt

878
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: that way at that age that you were already on

879
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 5: a treadmill despite being in an emo band.

880
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 3: Was you're.

881
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: You're just big fans of Nordichic. I think it was

882
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 4: about it was a great piece of equipment.

883
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: Was like, despite all my rage, I'm still just a

884
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 6: rat in the cage. I think that was Greg's interpretation

885
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 6: of that thematically. How do you know I'm a big

886
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 6: fan of Delaware? You've never heard like a bar of it?

887
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: Not yet. I will find some other song titles I'll

888
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 3: go look for.

889
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 6: All right, and again word the word is out on

890
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 6: the streets. If you have any connection to the Bandelaware,

891
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 6: which came out of Worcester, Mass in the late nineties

892
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 6: early two thousands, and you have access to a tape,

893
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 6: any type of.

894
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 3: Dem Wibraham Mass, not Worcester close, we gotta find this.

895
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 3: We gotta find this.

896
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 5: Andrew Moody guy like it sounds like we've got a

897
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 5: name Andrew Moody.

898
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 6: Anybody connected to this band Delaware? Greg's brother Maybe Greg

899
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 6: in a moment as a teenager, he looked to his

900
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 6: big brother and said, hey, Dean, this is what I've

901
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: been working on. And maybe he handed the tape over.

902
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 6: The brother has a tape possible, Hayden Row he checked

903
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 6: this out.

904
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Let me know what you think. It's it's our debut album,

905
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: which was called how do You Want To Cooked? How

906
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: do you want to cooked, I believe, fresh off the presses.

907
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: Let us know what you think. Maybe that tape sitting somewhere. No,

908
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: Dean had no injury.

909
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, but you had any older siblings,

910
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: but five years older. He was not too involved in

911
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: what his high school brother doing Back then.

912
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 5: He was like, I bet there's like a grainy VHS

913
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 5: tape of someone who taped one of their concerts, like

914
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: a backyard type of situation sitting out there, like.

915
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: Play Boston Garden or something. It's got to be something

916
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 6: out there. We've spent a lot of time on this. Well,

917
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 6: it's the most important thing we've talked about today. All right,

918
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 6: let's get into our over unders. Okay, So before the

919
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 6: season started, we did ap with Barnwell, which is a

920
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 6: tradition where we each picked I believe, four teams and

921
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 6: based the over unders off draft kings before the season started.

922
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 6: So let's go through each of ours. We'll start with

923
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: the Zazzer. Let's see how I did this year, and

924
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 6: you can check this out on YouTube. I went two

925
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: and two, all right, so I hit the over on

926
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: the Browns. Look at your Brown's optimism. I am always

927
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 6: in on the brown nine and a half All throughout

928
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 6: the summer. I was in on the Browns, I thought,

929
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: and a lot of that is I liked Nick Chubb

930
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 6: and Deshaun Watson bouncing back. Obviously they had a big

931
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 6: year without either of those two men for the most part.

932
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 6: But I hit the over there. This one I had

933
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 6: to sweat out a little bit the last couple of weeks.

934
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 6: But the Titans, I hit the under, which was seven

935
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 6: and five, and I'm looking back and remembering that that

936
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,959
Speaker 6: that was the one I was the least confident about.

937
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 6: In fact, I really wished I would have taken the over.

938
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 6: But as it worked out, where did they go?

939
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 3: They got six and eleven by a game and a half.

940
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: And the Browns went eleven and six, So I hit

941
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 6: that easily. I lost my last two, so I went

942
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: two and two. The Buccaneers, I hit the under. I

943
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 6: was not high on Baker and the Bucks this year.

944
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 6: They end up getting to nine wins and winning their division.

945
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: And then the Jets. I'm you know, that's not fair.

946
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 6: It was nothing fair about the Jets, but Rogers gets hurt.

947
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 6: So I hit the I wanted to hit the over

948
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 6: at nine and a half, but didn't come close. To

949
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: Jets finished seven and ten, so two and two.

950
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: It's interesting.

951
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 4: I think the Bucks under they were predicted to come

952
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: and last behind the Panthers. Panthers were seven and a half.

953
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: They were at six and a half.

954
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 5: Well, they showed kind of promise last year and then

955
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 5: added a first round pick.

956
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 6: All right, let's move to Greg, who's had a big

957
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 6: year with all sorts of predictions this year. Oh stop it, Greg,

958
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 6: Greg won four and oh says dog. I got to

959
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 6: say something Greg. First of all, before we get into this.

960
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: I'm happy for Greg.

961
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 6: I'm impressed I and you know, I've always been very

962
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 6: complimentary of your great knowledge of the game.

963
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: And your passion for it.

964
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 6: But I've also been doing this with you for a

965
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 6: decade and I want, I just want you to appreciate this, okay,

966
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 6: because you've never been like this year, with whether it's

967
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 6: the game picks or what we're back. You were on

968
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: a heater this year, and I just I just hope

969
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 6: do you appreciate I am appreciated.

970
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: That's why I was honking so much last night and

971
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 4: teasing my potential timer because I know it will not continue.

972
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 3: It will be like this is amazing. It's dark days,

973
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: what is your record?

974
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 4: I will say, of all the of any of the predictions,

975
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 4: game debut or the locks or whatever, I think the

976
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: over unders. Still luck is maybe the most important factor,

977
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 4: but I think it's the it's the one, it's the

978
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 4: least amount of life. I think these are the ones

979
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 4: I would care about the most.

980
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: Because I think you went sixteen and two or seventeen

981
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 6: and two in the locks, and you went four and oh,

982
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: so let's go through them. You took the Panthers under,

983
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 6: which was a home run seven and a half, and

984
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 6: they end up, of course two and fifteen, the worst

985
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 6: team in football. You always down on the Giants, so

986
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 6: you bang the under at seven and a half and

987
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 6: the Giants almost come and get you with it.

988
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 3: Only got sex.

989
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 6: But yes, but I think they were one and seven

990
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 6: and one point. They had a nice second half all

991
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 6: things considered.

992
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 3: Those two were good. The other two were more lucky.

993
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 6: You bang that one and you hit it well. The

994
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 6: Bears you had seven and a half on the man,

995
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: you really are you stilling it this year?

996
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: Fuddy?

997
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 6: They were seven and nine going into Week eighteen, and

998
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 6: then everybody was optimistic about that Packers game. But they

999
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 6: get beat so they stay at seven wins. So you

1000
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 6: hit that at seven and a half and the Bill,

1001
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 6: you son of a god. The Bills down in the

1002
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 6: fourth quarter on Sunday Night football, sitting at staring at

1003
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 6: ten and seven.

1004
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 4: At six and six, they needed to win five streets

1005
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 4: to get that.

1006
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 6: Over, and you hit the ten and a half over

1007
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 6: behind a five game winning streak to get to eleven

1008
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 6: and six.

1009
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: Bravo, sir, well done, Greg. I mean, I what can

1010
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: you say, Mark, I.

1011
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: Don't have anything else to say. It's I'm very I said,

1012
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 5: I'm excited for Greg.

1013
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 6: I mean, if I honestly and you guys know this,

1014
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 6: if I ever had the season Greg had, that would

1015
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 6: be it. I'm gone. I am, I am going. I'm

1016
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 6: taking a radio about somewhere in Long Island.

1017
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: How is this naked? I?

1018
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 5: Why do I feel like I probably went oh and

1019
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 5: four to balance this out?

1020
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 13: Well?

1021
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: I went to and too.

1022
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 4: He was mentally tracking throughout the year. I have to

1023
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 4: admit they didn't matter to me.

1024
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: I was by the way I had all this.

1025
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 6: Greg's children advanced the finals against each other in their

1026
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 6: fantasy football league.

1027
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 5: It's nothing if not impressed of opulence.

1028
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 4: Unbelievable game, deviut Curious finished off the regular season title

1029
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 4: there too, part over a centur some very difficult Greg.

1030
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 6: I am impressed and just filled with rage to be

1031
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 6: this close to greatness but not have it myself.

1032
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 3: Good for you, sir.

1033
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 6: So you say two and two for Zeuser four and

1034
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 6: oh for Greg, you're saying that naturally you would have

1035
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 6: to go.

1036
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: Zero and four. I mean, I'm just suggesting that's the

1037
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 3: narrative of this show. So probably that in that. But

1038
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: he can't make up what you went? No narrative? All right? No,

1039
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 3: I mean my own narrative that I created. All right,

1040
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 3: Sess what'd you do? Oh?

1041
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 5: No?

1042
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 3: Are you? He went on and four? Oh? Everyone check

1043
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 3: us out on YouTube.

1044
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 4: We've got fancy graphics and most important, you could have

1045
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: Mark's facial reaction to this. And I've heard from some

1046
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 4: people last week they didn't even know we were on YouTube.

1047
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 5: A also go think all right, so sess, dog Craig

1048
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 5: gets the pitching for the show too.

1049
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 3: I look at I let's go through it. Okay. Yeah?

1050
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 6: So you h Bangley under on the Ravens, who obviously

1051
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 6: the a best team in football, finished thirteen and four.

1052
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: You saw them as going under ten and a half.

1053
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: I thought they'd be like a playoff team maybe, but

1054
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 5: and then you went under ten and a half.

1055
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 6: That and I remember this having this conversation because I

1056
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 6: took the Browns over. You took the Rounds under nine

1057
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: and a half. And of course they win eleven and

1058
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: they're going to the playoffs. So maybe that was kind

1059
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: of protecting yourself a little bit. But you lost that.

1060
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: You have the Chiefs over. Oh, this one's annoying.

1061
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't hate that I did that back then.

1062
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 6: The Chiefs they've been almost they almost always hit the over.

1063
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: Greg right, eleven. I believe they had hit it for

1064
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: the last like six straight years. Right. This was the

1065
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: different market picked him.

1066
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 6: Yes, And just like I took Mahomes I think third

1067
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 6: in my fantasy draft before Christian McCaffrey. This was the

1068
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 6: year everything changed. The Chiefs over eleven and a half.

1069
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 6: They have the worst eleven win season that I can

1070
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 6: remember for any team. Uh so you get ding done

1071
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 6: that and then I mean, the the optimism around the

1072
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: Falcons was real. You had the over eight and a

1073
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 6: half and they finished what.

1074
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 3: Seven and ten? That's for the third year in a row.

1075
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: I got pulled into Falcons Land, you know, plus these

1076
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 5: other lands.

1077
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that with Arthur Smith? Three straight, seven

1078
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: and tens. That's so we finished five hundred as a group.

1079
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: If you look at it that way. I like that.

1080
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 4: How about that mark? You're only as good as your

1081
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 4: weakest link.

1082
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 3: So Greg unbelievable. I'm uncomfortable with Dan saying these things.

1083
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 6: I'm uncomfortable. I just I've never been around someone that's

1084
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 6: been this hot. I think you missed one rain maker

1085
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 6: all year.

1086
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: I think that was four and one, Yeah, that I

1087
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 4: lost track of. But yeah, something like that.

1088
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: How can we monetize, Greggs, I'd say, leave the NFL

1089
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 5: and move to Las Vegas.

1090
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 4: Well, we're not allowed to do any of this stuff.

1091
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: We're not allowed.

1092
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 3: I didn't say beat. We monetize. That's how I would monetize.

1093
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 4: But before I came here, you know, I did some

1094
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 4: of that, and you you you would have. You know,

1095
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: you want to have some big years. You're not gonna

1096
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: have a big year every year. You want to like

1097
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 4: survive in the years that aren't big years and then

1098
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 4: have some big years.

1099
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: And this is a big year. There. You got advice

1100
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: for me to take.

1101
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 6: Let's check now, let's check in on our running back draft,

1102
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 6: which was obviously a source of major consternation. Now this

1103
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 6: is one place where Greg somehow comes out on top.

1104
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: Here.

1105
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 6: I'm walking out of here because Greg famously butchered the

1106
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 6: draft back in June.

1107
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: But now we could use insights now even evaluate.

1108
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 6: Let's start. Let's do the same thing. Let's go Dan first.

1109
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 6: Let's see what I got. All right, so I had

1110
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 6: Nick Chubb wolf But you know, what are you gonna do?

1111
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 6: Austin Eckler?

1112
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: Hold on? He can't?

1113
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 5: We can we view Nick Chubb as who he really

1114
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 5: is versus the season he had.

1115
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 6: Well, let's just look at it through the prism of

1116
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,479
Speaker 6: the season for now. But because I yeah, obviously Chubb

1117
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 6: is an all.

1118
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: Time seventy yards, didn't score a touch and.

1119
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 6: Then blew out his knee in hideous fashion on a

1120
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 6: Thursday night in October, I believe was Austin Eckler.

1121
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened to Eckler. That's a miss.

1122
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 3: He totally fell off the map.

1123
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 6: Josh Jacobs another guy I started very slowly and then

1124
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 6: started to find himself, had some big games and then

1125
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 6: got hurt at the end of the year and then

1126
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 6: Breis Hall. Of the four, this is the one I

1127
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 6: was least comfortable with. He ends up going over fifteen

1128
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 6: hundred yards of total offense for the Jets, a very

1129
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 6: bad offense pick if this is bad, so yeah, so

1130
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 6: obviously hit on Haul and then Chubb.

1131
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do? But Eckler and Jacobs I

1132
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: missed on.

1133
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 6: They just didn't have great years, all right, So not

1134
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 6: that not that hot for Zuzzer. Okay, let's go to

1135
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 6: Greg Rosenthal, all right, Bijon Robinson who very frustrating year

1136
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 6: for Bijon did have moments, including a long touchdown reception

1137
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 6: in week eighteen, but not the guy we all thought

1138
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 6: he was going to be. Alvin fourteen a miss touchdowns though,

1139
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 6: did he have fourteen hundred from scrimmage?

1140
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: Not a total, not a miss or anything.

1141
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 6: Not a miss, I think, but not a big we

1142
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 6: were expecting him to be, you know, a seismic lanb

1143
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 6: not his fault though, not his fault.

1144
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: I think he has huge years ahead of him.

1145
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara, suspended to start the year, had a steady year,

1146
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 6: but he's not the same guy anymore.

1147
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: He's he was okay, he was.

1148
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 4: Fine eleven and sixty yards and six touchdowns, again from scrimmage,

1149
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 4: not rushing right.

1150
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: In fact, he is three straight years. I read this,

1151
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 6: He's been under four yards of carry for three straight years,

1152
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 6: which you don't.

1153
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: See a lot. So Kamara has fallen off a little bit.

1154
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor a guy who obviously started with a contract

1155
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 6: hold out and everything the injury about that.

1156
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: He warmed up as the season went along.

1157
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 6: So Taylor and then Aaron Jones, who did nothing for

1158
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 6: the first two and a half months of the season

1159
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 6: but finished strong with three hundred yard games.

1160
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: Pretty good, pretty good.

1161
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 5: Group that looks better than it looks a lot better

1162
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: than it did at other times during the season though,

1163
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 5: because Taylor became I.

1164
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 4: Was very negative afterwards and people came at me, and

1165
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 4: in the end they were fine.

1166
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 6: This solid job mark coming off the four, right, let's

1167
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 6: win this running back draft.

1168
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 3: You can't I know, I know one of them is right.

1169
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,959
Speaker 3: Let's see, let's check out marks four.

1170
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 6: And he had the first pick I remember, and he

1171
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 6: had Christian McCaffrey, so that's a big win.

1172
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 3: And Saquon Barkley.

1173
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 6: So McCaffrey had maybe his best year, which is saying

1174
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 6: something incredible and might be the offensive Player of the

1175
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 6: year as a result, Saquon Barkley slowed down, banged up

1176
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 6: down the stretch. But I really thought Barkley had a

1177
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 6: good season overall, bad team, you know, bad team.

1178
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 4: Two hundred yards from scrimmage, ten touchdowns, so like a

1179
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 4: better Camara, but he just looked better if you just

1180
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 4: watched it. Like the numbers are similar, but he was better.

1181
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 6: Derrick Henry, like Alvin Kamaros, it's pretty clear that he's

1182
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 6: not the same dude, but you saw even in Week

1183
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 6: eighteen that he still has juice in the tank.

1184
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 3: And then he'll get a job next year.

1185
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 6: And I think he's a Hall of Famer, so a

1186
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 6: nice guy to have there.

1187
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 3: And then Ramadre.

1188
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,959
Speaker 6: Stevenson, who quietly because I had him on my fantasy team,

1189
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 6: I remember tracking him. He was like all the bad

1190
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 6: stuff going around the Patriots. He was the one guy

1191
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 6: that was steadily just going about his business and I

1192
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 6: thought he was having a pretty good year until.

1193
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: Got a high ankle sprain. Yeah, ended his year. Mark.

1194
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 3: If you won the around the NFL running back strap,

1195
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 3: give it to you, Mark, Yeah, I think I think,

1196
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 3: so give it up. Thank you, this is your life.

1197
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 5: I wish I could feel as much in the victory

1198
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 5: that I know Greg feels in winning the things.

1199
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 3: They got to take a shot, but no, I'm not

1200
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: taking a shot at all. I really not. It's just

1201
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: like it's I don't know where it's supposed to carry me. Unbelievable,

1202
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 3: emotionally unbelievable.

1203
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 6: Finally, before we say goodbye, let's go through the go

1204
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 6: get my lunch props. Ready, sest dog, we none of

1205
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 6: us really had a very good year. Yeah with this one,

1206
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 6: So sess dog, here were your predictions. A kicker breaks

1207
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 6: the record for longest field goal that's more than sixty

1208
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 6: six yards during a Titans Ravens game in London. Nope,

1209
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 6: lost two sandwiches there, Rams Trade Matthew Stafford.

1210
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 3: You were very hot, I was.

1211
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 6: You were very down on the Rams Yep, very hot

1212
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 6: on Stafford being moved. He obviously didn't move and then

1213
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 6: had a huge year. He lost three sandwiches there, including

1214
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 6: till Lakeisha Dak Prescott his bench for perform Orman's reasons.

1215
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, these are huge. Whoa, that's a bit

1216
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 3: I was.

1217
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 5: You have to remember, like like when I create these,

1218
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 5: like the Stafford one, not so much, but like I'm

1219
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: doing this for the show like I like Showman.

1220
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean this Shamo. You're believing that Dak Preslett's going

1221
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 3: to be bad. I think there is a world where

1222
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: he was great.

1223
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 5: I think things could have gone real south for the

1224
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: Cowboys maybe and Dak gets caught in like the crosshairs

1225
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: of it all, and that did not happen on there's

1226
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 5: probably around.

1227
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 6: The time of the Trey Lance trade. So in your

1228
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: mind you're like, oh, then they'll play Trey Lance or something. Yeah,

1229
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 6: weird stuff happens. And then finally a Star QB loses

1230
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 6: at least one start to see now this is the

1231
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 6: cesstog ones. The other ones are just predictions gone awry.

1232
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 6: A Star QB loses at least one start due to

1233
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 6: an off field incident involving a problematic individual dressed in

1234
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 6: a costume anything it looks like. According to Nick Fortier,

1235
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 6: who runs Go get my Lunch dot Orgon does an

1236
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 6: incredible job at it.

1237
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: Thank you Nick. That cost you three sandwiches as well,

1238
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 3: is it?

1239
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: So that ends with that ended with yesterday's Bill's Dolphins game.

1240
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: We'll give you the playoffs about that. Less acts over

1241
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: here and.

1242
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: It has to be a can it be a player

1243
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 5: who's not you know, not currently anything like.

1244
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 6: The loosest calibration of this. We'll give it to you,

1245
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 6: Greg Rosenthal. Justin Herbert finishes higher in MVP voting than

1246
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes.

1247
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 4: We don't know yet, but I will lose two on

1248
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 4: that because they neither will get a vote zero.

1249
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's a loss. The Lions win the NFC North.

1250
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 6: You got that, very good guy. You guys took me

1251
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 6: up on that, took you.

1252
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 3: Up on it. Mac Jones finished. This is when I

1253
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: teased on the Sunday Show.

1254
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 6: Mac Jones finishes ahead of Daniel Jones in the QB Index,

1255
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 6: which Dan and Mark took you up on. And apparently

1256
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 6: when Shook puts together the final version will have every quarterback.

1257
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: And I do not imagine even though Daniel Jones didn't

1258
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 6: do squat this year, that Jones would be ahead of him.

1259
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 3: So that might be at the very bottom.

1260
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lose that, which is you know, right, Church wrong, Pew.

1261
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, out of sixty eight starters, will probably not

1262
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 4: be in the top forty, but he will be ahead

1263
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: of Mac Jones.

1264
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 3: There's no way.

1265
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 5: Let's see how far apart the ar because it shouldn't

1266
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 5: be too too far, all right, So like you were

1267
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 5: down on the rams, I just had this like weird

1268
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 5: feeling about the Lions flopping, which was obviously wrong because

1269
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 5: I have the Lions never claim sole possession of first

1270
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 5: place in the NFC North and they win on Thursday

1271
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: night against the.

1272
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: Chiefs historically bad Darius drops all those balls and they

1273
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 6: get beat by one point. So they won the North.

1274
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 6: So let alone one day. They were there every day

1275
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 6: pretty much, or was it every day? Did they ever

1276
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 6: fall out of first place on that division?

1277
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 3: No? I don't think they did. No wire to wire

1278
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 3: the Big Old.

1279
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 6: If you to Daddy Rich, DeVante Adams or Mike Evans

1280
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 6: will be traded prior to the twenty twenty three trade deadline.

1281
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: Oh I like that one, but it just because I

1282
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: was thinking.

1283
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 6: You're the Bucks crash Raiders, bad Bucks, bad Davante.

1284
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sovante was like talking a lot back then. Things seen.

1285
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 6: I think one or both of those guys aren't a

1286
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 6: new team next year.

1287
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 3: But that was not the wager.

1288
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 6: So it cost me to JJ Watt plays in twenty

1289
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 6: twenty three.

1290
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: Who I took you up on that?

1291
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 6: Only Greg though took me up at the mark you

1292
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,959
Speaker 6: stayed away. I love when the stayaways happened.

1293
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: Because I think that made like some interesting sense.

1294
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 6: I don't know, but by the way, there's still a

1295
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: few weeks left and TJ watches got hurt.

1296
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: Maybe the Steelers pick up the phone. JJ did break

1297
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 3: that news that he's out for these two games, and

1298
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 3: he's such a Steelers what if?

1299
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 6: What if JJ filled in for Nick for two weeks

1300
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 6: until he came back or TJ.

1301
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's such a Steelers thing to do. How

1302
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: about naming your kids JJ and TJ. How about that? Well?

1303
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 5: Or you or you name them what they're, what they

1304
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 5: stand for. And then they decided they weren't into those names,

1305
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 5: and you know, condensed all right.

1306
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 6: So I wasn't in on the Falcons, but I did

1307
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 6: believe in Bijon enough to say Nick Chubb or Bjeon

1308
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Speaker 6: Robinson lead the NFL and rushing Chubb. We discussed blow

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Speaker 6: out his knee Bejeon was trapped in.

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Speaker 3: I didn't take you up on that, which was stupid.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was all in on Bijon. Uh, this

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Speaker 3: one is right.

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Speaker 6: Nick has this listed as a loss, but I don't

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 6: know why Tom Brady is commenting commentating games for five

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01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 6: by twenty twenty four. There's a report just came out

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01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 6: that he's working on it, and it's.

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Speaker 3: By twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 6: Right this season, he needs to do it this upcoming

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Speaker 6: season twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: I no longer would have taken that.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping we are right, Mark, But it starts the

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01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 4: signs are looking poor, and then this is.

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Speaker 6: This is kind of a cess dog one which I

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 6: like the birds. Remember the birds falling out of the

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Speaker 6: sky in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, sory. It happened during super Bowl Week.

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Speaker 6: I said that will be the first of several unexplained

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01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 6: phenomenon over the next two years. So I have until

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01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 6: next February on that one. So that one, I guess

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 6: is just sitting out there.

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Speaker 3: Still. Did that get created like at some other time

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Speaker 3: that was created?

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Speaker 6: I think super Bowl Week because it happened like a

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01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 6: couple days before the game, and my cousin Mike I

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 6: brought to the Super Bowl, who's a big UFO and

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01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 6: conspiracy guy, And remember going down a wormhole with him

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01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 6: in the hotel room in Arizona that I was pretty

1338
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 6: hot to trot about more stuff happening.

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Speaker 3: But you know, maybe it does. Maybe it has.

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 6: Any other conspiracy tinfoil people out there, let me know

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01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 6: if I've missed anything in the past.

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01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 4: Long I'm sure people can come up with them several

1343
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: unexplained phenomenon if they just want to.

1344
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 6: And Mark, you did not true to form, take me

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01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 6: up on that. But Greg, of course, Dad, He's like, Ah,

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01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 6: there is no such thing as I'll expin for a

1347
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 6: something like that.

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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 5: I don't like the two year part of it. I

1349
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 5: think that's why I didn't get attached to that.

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01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Eric Roberts. Now, the producers have a famously messy reputation

1352
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 6: when it comes They never win a sandwich prop However,

1353
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 6: the Bills outsack and out intercept the Jets.

1354
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 3: I like this one, And where do we come down

1355
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,919
Speaker 3: on it? Oh? You got it?

1356
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 11: No it Bills eighteen interceptions, Jets seventeen ten this season.

1357
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 11: Oh stop it. So it was the I on the

1358
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 11: wrapt the wrap one not only locked up the East Division?

1359
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: What I so of them?

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01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 11: We were going back and forth actually about the Jets

1361
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 11: defense kind of balling out in that game against the

1362
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 11: Patriots and the Bills outsacked the Jets fifty four to

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 11: forty eight.

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 4: So wait, as it says you lost it here.

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01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: I think it was mistaken. I don't know.

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 6: He has some data points there that don't appear to

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01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 6: be accurate.

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01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: Yep, So they were close. It was close. I think

1369
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: you hit it.

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Speaker 11: I think the Bills went into Week eighteen like plus

1371
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 11: thirteen in sacks, but the Jets and play that week

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01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 11: and then yeah, there was a two interception swing in

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01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 11: the Jets game, so they actually went into the final

1374
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 11: game of season down one, but then that wrap one. Yeah,

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01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 11: so big win for me. Guys, Let's give some of

1376
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 11: everything coming up. Everything's coming up, and I have a kid.

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Speaker 6: Three sangwiches he gets, and that is honestly, that is

1378
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 6: a big deal because.

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Speaker 3: The producers never win.

1380
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the producers are each different individual people, so

1381
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 5: it's not going to predict how Eric would do.

1382
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 11: I'm just saying historically, they's this was coming out of

1383
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 11: hard knock seasons, so we spent a lot of time

1384
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 11: watching the Jets, me and you getting pumped up in defense.

1385
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,919
Speaker 11: So I thought something okay, good, you know, something tracked

1386
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 11: throughout the year and actually came down to the wires

1387
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 11: and they were.

1388
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 6: Two good defenses. And the Bills statistically in those categories.

1389
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 4: When that interception, Eric, were you aware that that was winning?

1390
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 4: You saying yes, Wow, I wish we knew that.

1391
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 11: That is what a moment because me and Dan we're

1392
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 11: talking about it and I don't think yeah. And then

1393
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,880
Speaker 11: I knew there was a swing because of the two

1394
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 11: in the morning game, and then that was good.

1395
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: There was the one in two.

1396
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 6: I'm a little surprised that the Bills outsacked the Jets.

1397
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 6: Jets had a lot of guys that were like around six, seven,

1398
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 6: eight sacks. I didn't realize Buffalo's pass rush with no

1399
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 6: Von Miller was that fierce. But good for you. Were

1400
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 6: they top five?

1401
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 11: Let's see here the sacks where they would be one, two, three, four,

1402
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 11: fifty four behind Dolphins with fifty six, Chiefs with fifty seven,

1403
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 11: and Rams with sixty and then the Jets were somewhere

1404
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 11: down towards the middle.

1405
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 3: Interesting. Okay, and one more.

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01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,919
Speaker 6: This one's not official, but we got a major hit

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Speaker 6: from Lakeisha. Speaking of Alakeisha, we did a NFL Plus

1408
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 6: that's coming up a little bit later this month where

1409
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 6: we're going through all the Super Bowls in recent years,

1410
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 6: and we talked about the incredibly difficult super Bowl around

1411
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 6: Chris's passing. But we talk about Chris and the that

1412
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 6: Bucks Chief super Bowl and then a great video that

1413
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 6: Lakeisha made a letter she wrote to Chris, you got

1414
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 6: to check out NFL Plus when that drops, and also

1415
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 6: on daz own if that's how you get it overseas

1416
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 6: out in international territories. But Lakeisha had a wager when

1417
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 6: she was on the show to this one. Lamar Jackson

1418
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 6: finishes top three in MVP voting and guess what, all

1419
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 6: three of us took her up on it.

1420
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Speaker 3: A little surprising, Greggy. I think, just in the spirit of.

1421
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 6: Forget about top three, he might win it unanimously.

1422
01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 5: And Lakeisha's mom one of the bigger Lamar Jackson around,

1423
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 5: And I think Lamar Jackson kind of brought Lakeisha's mom

1424
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 5: into football.

1425
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 6: That's absolutely right. She loves Lamar. She loves Lamar. Oh,

1426
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 6: we got a clay bound one too. Jalen Rager had

1427
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 6: over forty.

1428
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 11: Catches in twenty twenty when was this If you recall

1429
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 11: that was that was come down.

1430
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 4: If I had known that, I would have enjoyed the

1431
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: bizarre Jets Patriots game on Sunday where Jalen Rager was

1432
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 4: suddenly the Patriots number one receiver. Regretted that out he

1433
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: did not come close to forty It's seven, okay.

1434
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 6: Seven catches for Jalen Rager. Getting behind the Pats offense

1435
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 6: is always a tricky proposition, all right. So there you go.

1436
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 6: There are sandwich props. Maybe we'll do a couple Super

1437
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 6: Bowl week we tend to do that. We make one

1438
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 6: Super Bowl prediction and that's it. So here's the rest

1439
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 6: of the week. On Wednesday, we're gonna have Connie Fox

1440
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 6: back with us, how about that? And we're going to

1441
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 6: give out our awards for the twenty twenty three season

1442
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 6: and then start looking ahead to Super wild Card weekend

1443
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 6: on Thursday when we preview all the games on Saturday,

1444
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 6: Sunday and Monday.

1445
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 3: Anything else, boys, I think we covered it. This is

1446
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: a big week.

1447
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 6: Good job, good job everybody. Thank you everybody for listening.

1448
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 6: And remember

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01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: When all else is lost, it's a new Horizon Heat

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01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 3: the car