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Speaker 2: Using will be? Well, it's time to beg Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's go, let's do this thing. Monday, September twenty ninth

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Speaker 2: how are you happy to be here? Brian Campbell, one

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Speaker 2: half of your hosting duo live in direct from Alphaville

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Speaker 2: in Connecticut, and of course the man next to me today,

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas of Washington, d C. We've got a show

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Speaker 2: for you. We're gonna recap you at se Perth. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna react to the big announcement between t KO Zupa

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Speaker 2: Boxing and my company, Paramount CBS, and also look ahead

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Speaker 2: to the big storylines of this weekend's fights. Maybe even

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Speaker 2: bring up vander Ley Silva getting sent to the uh

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Speaker 2: to the basement room of of Hades. Hey, Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: how are you? Bro? You still there?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Broh? Everything's coming up? Campbell? Huh, look

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Speaker 1: at this nice turn of the screw for you. You

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Speaker 1: got the first interview with Dana right yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know there's gonna be Zupa Boxing at your place

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Speaker 1: and UFC at your place now as I understand it,

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Speaker 1: I know. We'll talk about this in a minute. The

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Speaker 1: ZUFA boxing deal is five years Uh.

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Speaker 2: That was not in the press release or came out

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Speaker 2: dalk to me, but I'm told, but it was in

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Speaker 1: Had Okay, all right, because I was gonna say I

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Speaker 1: is either way, buddy, it's incoming for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what a what a You know, I'm used

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Speaker 2: to getting screwed luke lately, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: we go, right there. Uh yeah, what it's time to

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Speaker 2: be alive here at Paramount CBS. I am expecting some

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Speaker 2: fun and big things ahead.

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Speaker 2: Just don't kill me, folks. Okay, all right, it's a

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Speaker 2: new time in journalism. All right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: There we go. Uh, fantastic to be here. LT Are

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Speaker 2: there riots in the streets of DC? Everything going?

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, streets are pretty empty.

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Speaker 1: Little hot this weekend, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, this weather's been fantastic. I mean, how boring

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I know, two douchebags in their forties. Oh what

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Speaker 2: listens to have you seen this ship and doesn't watch it?

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Speaker 1: Very bro? Bro? Have you seen this?

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Speaker 2: What is that thing?

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Speaker 1: So? This is a this is fress Fress is a Colita.

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Speaker 2: director uh a ruthless streamer these days of undercards. He

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Speaker 4: Yeah, boys, I don't have a Kolito with me, but

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Speaker 1: Well it was a good weekend for your betting. I

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Speaker 2: Sita's dad's libido too much, too much praise, right Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Luke Luke Nocia do you take your Do you like

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Speaker 2: All right, we do have a decent show ahead of you.

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Speaker 2: Anything else, Luke Thomas, you want to tell the people, Uh,

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Speaker 2: We'll see, all right, Hey, we might as well get

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Speaker 1: I had someone asked me this last week BC, which was, oh,

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Speaker 1: More to the point, BC, you know, listen, I wanted

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Speaker 2: But talk about putting yourself in position, That's exactly what

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Speaker 6: Two break records, man, and uh, this is what I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I get, I get what he so.

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Speaker 1: And whenever you think of his chances, it's certainly meritorious

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a flight from Perth to anywhere will

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Speaker 2: was there was this more about what Reyes. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Hope in this fight. And you'll recall that I said

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Speaker 1: You saw that long guard. We talked about it, right,

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Speaker 1: BC Like, it was exactly what the oddsmakers thought it

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Speaker 1: Excuse me that Olberg was throwing like it was just

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Speaker 2: So Yeah, Reyes would put a statement out on Instagram

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Speaker 2: after the fight saying congratulations to Carlos. Just wasn't my night.

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Speaker 2: God is good? All ways? Uh do you think Oldberg

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Speaker 2: look this division is known for sluggers, for finishers at

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Speaker 2: this in this game, if not this division, all the

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Speaker 2: are you going to buy into that?

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Speaker 1: I think he's got a pretty fun counter striking game.

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Speaker 1: him catching Poeton? I could? But I think Olberg, what

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Speaker 1: just gonna be able to mix it up on him

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Speaker 1: in ways that I think that's gonna be. You know,

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Speaker 1: be pressured back. B See, it's not like Olberg's got like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Interesting, He's going to have to prove it a little

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Speaker 2: this does feel like the end of his comeback chapter

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Speaker 2: I mean, would you do the Joe roganshab bid here

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Speaker 2: that too harsh? Too soon? Brother? Eel you know what

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Speaker 1: Brother eugh, No, it's not too soon. It's not too soon.

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Speaker 1: It's not the end of his career. In all likelihood,

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Speaker 1: it's not the end of his career. And more importantly,

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Speaker 1: I don't I just think he's going to try and

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Speaker 1: keep going. But you know he's been flat lined ko

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Speaker 1: how many times? Now? Four times?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? So yeah, four times. So this one the Yearie.

430
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Speaker 2: Fight Ryan Spanny got knocked out cold.

431
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Speaker 1: He got knocked out cold in that one, and then

432
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Speaker 1: I forget the other one. But you know, or maybe

433
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Speaker 1: this is three times getting flat lined, chaot whatever. It's

434
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Speaker 1: plenty to say nothing of what's happened in the gym,

435
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Speaker 1: to say no forgetting about uh blahovich, blahovich. That's the

436
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 1: right one. Yep, thank you, it was. I knew I

437
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: was forgetting one. You see, we'll talk about this later

438
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Speaker 1: with Vandelia Silva, who is a whole other level of this,

439
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Speaker 1: to the point where you're like, I don't we'll talk

440
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Speaker 1: about that, yeah, but this is and I'm not saying

441
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Speaker 1: we're close to that either, because that's like uniquely special.

442
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 1: But what I am saying is, dude, if you've been

443
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Speaker 1: flattened three times, to say nothing of the gym wars,

444
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: to say nothing of you know, all the other things

445
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 1: that go from complications from weight cutting or it just

446
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: the lifetime doing it. Dude, you're talking about extraordinary damage

447
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: to your brain. You have to protect it. You know,

448
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: once or twice going out in a fight career is

449
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: quite understandable. Three or more, and now you've got a problem.

450
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Speaker 1: I do believe. I do believe that's a bit of

451
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: a dividing line for me. I agree, and I'm a

452
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Speaker 1: little bit If you're in his corner, I'll wrap it

453
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Speaker 1: up here. If you're in his corner, you have to

454
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Speaker 1: at least have a conversation about what the game plan

455
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Speaker 1: is going forward, right, like what are we trying to

456
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Speaker 1: accomplish and what kind of fights are we going to take,

457
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Speaker 1: because just what meandering through is probably gonna end up

458
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Speaker 1: having him back in a situation like this.

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Speaker 2: I fully agree. There's different kinds of stoppages, you know

460
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Speaker 2: what I mean. There's stoppages when you've taken too much

461
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Speaker 2: punishment but you're still standing. There's stoppages when you're just

462
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Speaker 2: covering up on the ground because you don't want to continue.

463
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Speaker 2: And then there's the ones where you're somewhat routinely at

464
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Speaker 2: the highest level, when you do lose knocked out cold.

465
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Speaker 2: That's just what it is, and you can only take

466
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Speaker 2: so many of those. So we'll see what happens there.

467
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Speaker 2: But big moment for Alberg. He stepped up and he

468
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Speaker 2: looked even better than I thought he would. So it

469
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Speaker 2: might be black Jags hour here. Let's keep the show rolling.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 2: you may have forgotten This Friday, Right this Friday, October third,

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Speaker 2: one day before UFC three twenty, your boys at MK

482
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Speaker 2: will be back in the studio in Manhattan Meadow Larks Studios,

483
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Speaker 2: LTBC and Jed Meshu the second. Yeah, how about that

484
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Speaker 2: UFC three twenty pregame preview? Let the uh what do

485
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Speaker 2: we call that? Luke, what's that specific new brand we've

486
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Speaker 2: been drinking lately, The Devil's Double Reserve. Yeah, let that

487
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Speaker 2: I mean, I I'd even encourage you not to chase

488
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Speaker 2: it this.

489
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Speaker 1: Time, I'd encourage you to lick my ass.

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Speaker 2: It's so I mean, even Long Island. Luke knows it's

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Speaker 2: so smooth.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it wasn't. I drink it. I like it,

493
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to do shots. I like to sip.

494
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well MK, today, of course brought to you

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496
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497
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Speaker 2: all right. Topic number two coming right back at you.

498
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: Perth gave us a few things to talk about up

499
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: and down the card despite the cancelations. No top of bros,

500
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. First and foremost, though, Luke Thomas,

501
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 2: what the hell happened? And that fight between Neil Magni

502
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: and Jake Matthews, an absolute wild fight in which Magni

503
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: respawned after seemingly tapping out. What if anything, should have

504
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 2: been done about the fact that it looked like Magni

505
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: was submitted to close the first round, only to rally

506
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: in the final round to get one of his obviously

507
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: big up to the veteran. But this was a weird

508
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 2: handling altogether this fight.

509
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Speaker 1: Dude, I don't even understand what rule was obeyed, right,

510
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: like if my understanding of the rules and I reviewed

511
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: them over the weekend, I don't know exactly which ones

512
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Australia is implementing. I want to be clear about that.

513
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: They might have some various and particularly that province, because

514
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: that's how it's regulated in Australia. They might have a separate,

515
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: special set of bylaws that don't follow that. But once

516
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: the referee waves it, you don't get to like, oh, oh,

517
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: actually it's the end of the round, no, dude, Like

518
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: you can you can wave it at the end of

519
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: the round like simultaneously and the tie will not go

520
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: to the runner like you waived it. Now if you

521
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: wave it after the belts a little bit different and

522
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: then the rules get a little bit jenky. I'm basically

523
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: straight up what rule was he obeying that allowed him

524
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Speaker 1: to do that? I don't even know what's what rule

525
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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't even I'm still kind of confused at what

527
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Speaker 2: even happened. There was a big shit show to end it,

528
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 2: but I thought for hundred percent that fight's over. No

529
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Speaker 2: SNA loses his parlays, you.

530
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Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, no, no, no kidding. Now, let me say

531
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Speaker 1: a couple of things, like, dude, you you you've sat

532
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, ringside or whatever for fights. Dude, I had

533
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: an issue at the last xFC event where I thought

534
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: a guy was out. I mean I was certain he

535
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: was out and that the referee missed it, and then

536
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: sure enough the guy loses it and he was totally fine.

537
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Like I know that sometimes Joe Rogan gets a little

538
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: bit of flat because he's always like he's out, he's out,

539
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: and then the person escapes. I will tell you, if

540
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: you're watching it in person, that's a much harder thing

541
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Speaker 1: to detect. I know the referee was kind of on

542
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: top of him, but I'm just gonna say, let he

543
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: who was without sin cast the first stone on this one.

544
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: I have fucked this one up royally before. However, however,

545
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Speaker 1: it just goes back to a very basic point, like

546
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Speaker 1: there's a set of protocol in place, and once the

547
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: once a referee waives it, there's no going back. What

548
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Speaker 1: I will say is BC is that whether or not

549
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: that rule should be reviewed and to what extent instant

550
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: replay could have extended the life of that fight or

551
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: gone back and done something I was talking about this

552
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: with Long Island Luke. Normally, BC I don't ever recommend

553
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: fighters challenging you know something. For example, they don't like

554
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: a judge's decision in a fight, and it'll even be

555
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: admittedly bad, and then they'll want to challenge it with

556
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: a commission. This is a path to nowhere. Unless the

557
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: call was you know, wrong from arithmetic level, they're not

558
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: going to review it. Or you can prove collusion among

559
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: the judges, which naturally is going to require a very

560
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: high evidentiary bar. They're not even going to just entertain

561
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: what you have to say. But dude, they might on

562
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: this one. They might on this one. Jake Matthews might

563
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: have a call, especially since he ended up losing in

564
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Speaker 1: the third, which, by the way, do you realize he's

565
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: never had a three fight win streak. I'll double check

566
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: that in a second. Consider how long he's been in

567
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: the UFC. He's never had a three fight win streak.

568
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about when we talk about Carlos

569
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: Oliberg a minute ago. These kinds of wind streaks you're

570
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: seeing are pretty rare.

571
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pretty rare. Indeed, he's had such an interesting

572
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 2: career go ahead, Long Island.

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Speaker 5: Jake Matthews was on a three fight win streak coming

574
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Speaker 5: into this.

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Speaker 1: Coming into this one, excuse me, I apologize. How many

576
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Speaker 1: does he have beyond that?

577
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Speaker 5: He had another one from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty.

578
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Speaker 1: Did I read the wrong effing record? Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: he's probably never had longer than a three, longer than

580
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Speaker 1: a three fighter Jesus, my lord, have mercy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you sound like the refereal here. I mean,

582
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: that guy waved the fight off. I don't care what

583
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 2: anybody says. He waved the right time, and then he

584
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: acted like he didn't right, I mean, and then the

585
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: announcers were like, well, good thing, this fight wasn't waved off.

586
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: And I agree, it turned into this crazy back and

587
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: forth fight, but it seemed a million times over obvious.

588
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: I mean, no, Seida, how much were you sweat?

589
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 4: And during that sequence so literally he called the fight off,

590
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: and Brendan Fitzgerald on comms is like, the fight is off.

591
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 4: Jake Matthews wins by submission. Then Neil Magne gets right up,

592
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 4: his arm went limp. That's why the ref stepped in there.

593
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 4: They played the replay probably three times on the broadcast,

594
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 4: it's as clear as day. The ref says he's out,

595
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 4: steps in, touches them both. A second goes by, two

596
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 4: seconds go by, the horn goes off, so it's very

597
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: clearly before the round ended. I don't know how they

598
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 4: let it slide, I was saying to Luke pre show.

599
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: It just felt like the ref realized he fucked up.

600
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 4: Neil wasn't actually out, so in the moment he just decided, Oh,

601
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: we'll just pretend that was the end of the round

602
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: and we'll keep it moving. But it's so messed up

603
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 4: to everyone. Should have been a no contest, but did

604
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: hit the over So I'll take it.

605
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, But here's the reality. Either way, the referee is

606
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: fucking somebody because if you stop that fight, Magne's not out,

607
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: that's a bad stoppage. If you keep it going in

608
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: contravention to the rules, well now you're fucking Jake Matthews.

609
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: So like, either way, a really bad call by that

610
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: ref Even if they're hard to do, especially now with

611
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: guys with a very very very very good submission resistance,

612
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: submission defense. I admit it's a it's a difficult task,

613
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: but this is the highest level and you got to

614
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: get it right and he didn't. That's just Yeah.

615
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: If that referee is an ex marine where there's no

616
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: such thing, he's definitely fing somebody and he's probably paying

617
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: for it.

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00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Luke Dared, I don't even know what that joke is.

619
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Speaker 1: That was a winding joke to me.

620
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Osborne did she knew exactly what that joke was.

621
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Speaker 1: Look, okay, those were active tout.

622
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. There was no payment there, just shame.

623
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: All right, that's great, right there. Let's hear from UFC's

624
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: international head Dave Shaw, who was forced to host the

625
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: pre fight press conference host the post fight, and here's

626
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: his opinion on the weird nonstoppage.

627
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: Is the referee able to continue on the fight out

628
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: to waving it off like that?

629
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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, the whole situation was strange, and I think

630
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: there's confusion where we were sitting. There are a number

631
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: of us just talking through the particulars. I think in

632
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: the end and I think everyone's going to have a

633
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: different position. But the fact pattern as we saw it was,

634
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: you know, arm went a little bit, seemed to go

635
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 3: a little bit limp right, like you know, Maggie's arm

636
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 3: kind of came out and sort of flopped a little

637
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: bit as.

638
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Speaker 1: If he was about to go out.

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Speaker 3: My only assumption, and I don't want to speculate, my

640
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: only assumption, is that the ref assumed that he was

641
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: going out and seemed to have stopped the fight. I

642
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: think objectively and to most people, maybe have a different

643
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 3: when people have different opinions here, but it seemed like

644
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: he stopped the fight, and he stopped the fight importantly

645
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: before the bell. Now there didn't seem to be much

646
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: time before the bell, and so that's where the confusion,

647
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: you know started. Jake got off because of the bell

648
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: very clearly, you know, the ref thought that thought that

649
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: Neil was sort of coming to or he was fine,

650
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: and then allowed the fight to continue.

651
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: So where do we go from here?

652
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Matthews is he's able, his camp's able to

653
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: lodge some sort of appeal. But this is all in

654
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 3: the hands of the Western Australian Collbat Commission and so

655
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: it's up to them to determine what the next step is.

656
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 3: And honestly, I'm not really sure what the scope of

657
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: the process would be and whether or not they would

658
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: levy a no decision, but there seemed to be a mistake. Now,

659
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: I should say that over our time in Western Australia,

660
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: the you know, Anthony Grover and his team have done

661
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 3: a tremendous job and they've been very instrumental in the

662
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: ongoing progress and regulation of combat sports in this state,

663
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: and they've been a pleasure to work with. So the

664
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 3: only comment I think we should make as the promoter,

665
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: and by the way, promoter of both athletes is this

666
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: is in the hands of the Commission to figure out

667
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: what to do next.

668
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Look, whether or not you liked his answer, I'm starting

669
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: to like David Shaw. He seems like a sensible person

670
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: on that side.

671
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like a reasonable fellow, right, I

672
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: mean like him, does like him. Maybe he's right, maybe

673
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: he's wrong, but it looked like he tried to think

674
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: that one through and give an honest response. We buy

675
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: and large and yeah, I agree.

676
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: All right, tough break there for Jake Matthews, but you

677
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: know he's ready to bang regardless. That's what he does.

678
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: The old man Magni though, got the win and starting

679
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: to really add up what Neil Magne has accomplished over

680
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: the totality of his career. We can call him a

681
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: compiler all we want, but he's still the guy you

682
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: have to go through at we welter wait to find

683
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: out if you're legit. And how about this? On the

684
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: all time wins list, breaking free from the pack, which

685
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: includes and Andrea Rolovsky, Donald Cerni, Max Holloway, and Doe Bronx,

686
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Olivera to become second place all by himself for most

687
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: wins in UFC history with twenty four three away from

688
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 2: the still active Jim Miller. And when you consider that

689
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: Holloway and Olivera probably not close to done yet. I

690
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: mean closer, but not close. I'd have to believe that

691
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: those standings will change. But Luke, what do we say here?

692
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Tip of the hat to Magne for not giving up.

693
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: He's always in shape, he seems to always be evolving

694
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: his game. We have seen his ceiling a bunch of times,

695
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: but that was a pretty gnarly win regardless of that.

696
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 2: BS nonstoppage, dude, Magni is the ultimate test for like, Okay,

697
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: are you gonna be something or not?

698
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: You know, like that's just where I mean, that's not

699
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: always what he's been, but that's certainly what he is now.

700
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: And if you're you know, if you're not buttoned up

701
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: in your game a little bit. He there's a decent

702
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: chance he might find it. He's for the most part given,

703
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, talking he's got a lot of miles on him.

704
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: But he's a I mean, he's like dude, when everyone

705
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: talks about like, oh, so and so has veteran savvy

706
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: and like what that means. It's, you know, they kind

707
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: of know what their game is. They kind of know

708
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: what works, and they can't always make it work. But

709
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: if you know, they they know the little pockets to

710
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: in fights, to hide and how to advance their attack,

711
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: and you know, they just have a clear sense about

712
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: how to make the circumstances work in their favor. He

713
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: is that. He's the apotheosis of that. Also, BC not

714
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: for nothing. He's got some pretty good wins on his resume.

715
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you call him a compiler, and that's that's

716
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: not unfair. But like dude, he's got wins over Kelvin Gastolum,

717
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: he's got wins, a stoppage, winnover Hector Lombard, a win

718
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,439
Speaker 1: over and then some of these you know are post

719
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: prime but still Johnny Hendrix, he's got to win over

720
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Carlos Konnat, which is certainly the post prime, the Leech,

721
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 1: Robbie Lawler, Jeff Neil d Rod. Dude, those are good

722
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: names on his resume. He didn't beat like nothing but

723
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,959
Speaker 1: chumps on the prelims or something. He he had a bite,

724
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: you know, of the main course here for a little

725
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: bit and was able to have take some home with him.

726
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: Pretty impressive what he's been able to do. Dude, I'm

727
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: telling you these guys who have longevity, they're maybe not

728
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: the best fighters you've ever seen, but they also understand

729
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: something about the fight game that most other fighters cannot

730
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: even imagine. And I really believe that's its own special

731
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of trait that we should value.

732
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: Magne kind of has old guy at the park vibes

733
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: who like sleeps in his car before the pickup game

734
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: and then comes out and just like runs it wearing

735
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: sweatpants with holes in it. He's kind of he lives

736
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: the life. So shout out to him.

737
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: Is this something yet you literally did? And that's because

738
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: that's an oddly specific thing to mention.

739
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 2: No, just from a town where we had we had

740
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: a lot of we had a fair amount people who

741
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: lived in their car. Look, you know what I mean

742
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: some time, it was either there or you run a

743
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: room at the YMCA for.

744
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: You ever try and sleep in your car overnight.

745
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: I have done that yet.

746
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not comfortable.

747
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: No, it's it's one of the worst, especially when it's cold,

748
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: you know whatever. But really that was our choice in

749
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: our town, your car or the YMCA. You know, if

750
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: you got thrown out or your parents kicked you out

751
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

752
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: It was interesting.

753
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: Luke good Old what's his name there? Jake Matthews was

754
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: the only Ossie to actually lose on this card. In fact,

755
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: we had some breakthrough Ozsie performances up and down, talking

756
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: just of the down unders which Ozzy was most impressive

757
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: in your eyes on set.

758
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: I would love to hear a long on Luke has

759
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to say on this, especially since he did so well

760
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: on the betting. I'm gonna say Jack Jenkins for me,

761
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: you know, you've kind of all. I don't know if

762
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna be what we had maybe hoped that he would,

763
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: but definitely he's technical. Definitely's got a fun, well put

764
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: together striking game. I love his shot selection of his accuracy.

765
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: He performed really well. I don't have. I mean, Navajo

766
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: Sterling is supposed to be a big le heavy of

767
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: prospect and his fight with Hudolpho Belato. I'm not gonna

768
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: say it was disappointing in the sense that it was

769
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: a bad fight or it wasn't fun. Bec it was,

770
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I see breakthrough prospect there

771
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: in Sterling. It's still early. I'm not declaring it off,

772
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: but it's a little slow getting out of the gate

773
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: for me. What about you Long Island Luke. And by

774
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: the way, the other only other ranked fighter on this

775
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: card who was opening the main card lost one wall

776
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: looked boomy.

777
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: I think cam Rouston knocking out Andre Petroski that's the

778
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 5: guy for me, dude.

779
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great performance by Hyeah. Also, it

780
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: was window the shot barely landed.

781
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: I know, well Petroski, I don't know what happened to him,

782
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 5: but I was saying going into this fight that, like

783
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: cam Rouston, I was impressed by him on Contender Series,

784
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: but he had lost to Teres Finny, he lost to

785
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 5: someone else who was a good wrestler, and Petrotski's obviously

786
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: a good wrestler, so I was like worried about this matchup,

787
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 5: but he looked damn good in there. You're not wrong

788
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 5: about Navajo Sterling kind of looking flat. Uh yep, Jamie Malarkey,

789
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: I you know, I haven't been whatever.

790
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: Whatever. He's a good fighter, but whatever, I'm.

791
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: Nolan Australian because that guy is fantastic comeback in that.

792
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a fantastic comeback.

793
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 4: But I would never say he looked great because he

794
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: got dropped in the first minute of that and then

795
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: he told.

796
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: Everybody to suck his paylotos if they don't like his

797
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: submission games.

798
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: That was.

799
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 5: That was the Aussie verse, the Long Islander, so that

800
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 5: was I was torn on that fight. But you know,

801
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 5: Colby Thickness looked damn good in round one, then kind

802
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 5: of gassed out a little as that fight went on.

803
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: But also also against very questionable opposition.

804
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: True like a stripper's name, right, yeah, a little bit.

805
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 5: And then Miche.

806
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 4: Michelle Montau, she's a Kiwi, She's all of her wins

807
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: had come by submission coming into this, so we knew

808
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: she was gonna grapple. She took Carolina down. It was

809
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: not a great fight. There was point deductions, all this stuff.

810
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 4: But cam Rowson's the answer you ce.

811
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: I once had a stripper at the Spearmint Rhino tell

812
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: me her name was Aon and I was like, how

813
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: do you spell that? She goes a E O N,

814
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we don't have to pretend, like, we

815
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: don't have to do this. You can just you can

816
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: have a normal name. You know, it doesn't have to

817
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: be yours, but you don't have to like invent things

818
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: or like borrow from cartoons.

819
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Interesting right there, anybody else turn your head, Luke. I

820
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: mean I was looking at Luma Luke Boonby's four five

821
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: wind streak there at Women's strawway.

822
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: Oh yes, what is it?

823
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,280
Speaker 2: Alexia Tainara, she came in and turned that around. Pready

824
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: twenty seven on all three scorecard.

825
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Definitely definitely and that again, I guess the only other

826
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: ranked opponent or ranked fighter I should say on this card.

827
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: So that's definitely worthwhile. But in general, dude, this was

828
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: this was overflow. This was overflow. Let's just call I mean,

829
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: we don't have to say it's every part of the product,

830
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: because it's not. But this was overflow, by the way.

831
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Something to keep in mind. I know, the like Emma

832
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: on Point has been like doing these graphics where they're like,

833
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, how many ranked fighters are busy, and it's

834
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: like thirty seven percent are booked, so like, you know,

835
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: a huge amount the majority are not. People have said

836
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: BC that the UFC must be hoarding some of their

837
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: talent to go like hard out of the gate in January,

838
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: which to me sounds like a very reasonable theory. Would

839
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: you not agree that there is clearly some reservation of resources.

840
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And I think they should and I think

841
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: they will. His history has shown that they do that

842
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: ahead of a first TV deal. And I feel like,

843
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: when you're dropping pay per view, you already paid for

844
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: the class action suit, new era. Let's go for it.

845
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's load these up, all right.

846
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: Oh, when the suits aren't done though, they keep going,

847
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: there's there's other ones still on the ducket. Also, God,

848
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: what was I gonna say? God, Damn, I forgot what

849
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. It doesn't matter, fuck it.

850
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: I'll sit here until you remember it, Luke, It'll be great.

851
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm on the clock and I can't remember what

852
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: the hell I was gonna say. All right, whatever, all.

853
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, why don't we transition into topic number three?

854
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 2: You already know that Friday will be previewing all things

855
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: UFC three twenty in our pregame preview that will take

856
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: up the entirety of Friday show. But there's two other

857
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: events going on here. The big one though for the PFL,

858
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: A very big one that's going down in the UA

859
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: on Friday Night, a rematch of arguably the best fight

860
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: in the promotion's history, one of the best fights in

861
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: MMA this calendar year, when Usman der Maaga Madoff to

862
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: kick off the year, won a competitive decision over Paul

863
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 2: Hughes over five rounds for the PFL lightweight title. That's

864
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: the belt now that is at stake, no more belatur.

865
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: This is the official PFL lightweight title. It's a rematch

866
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: that tops the card featuring two title fights, including Corey Anderson,

867
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: friend of the show, fighting for the inaugural PFL light

868
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: Heavyweight crown in a rematch with dav Lett Yakshimuradov. But

869
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: this is the big matchup. These are arguably, you know,

870
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: two of the three biggest resources PFL has here in

871
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Nirmaga Medof and Paul Hughes. As we look at the

872
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: odds at the moment, Usman Nirmaga medoff minus one sixty

873
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: six the betting favorite plus one p thirty For Paul

874
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: Hughes Luke, let's start here when you look back at

875
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: their first matchup, which I've watched a few times now,

876
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: what is your biggest takeaways? Because if you recall, Usman

877
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: spent the entire build to that fight saying Hughes wasn't

878
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: on his level until he found out he was.

879
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: My takeaway is that Hughes, it reminds me of that

880
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: scene in the Matrix where they've put Neo in the

881
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: training program and he spars with Morpheus, but then they

882
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: make him do the jump, remember that, and then everyone's like, oh,

883
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: everyone falls the first time, you know. But eventually there

884
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: comes a moment later in the movie where he begins

885
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: to believe that he can do things and he can

886
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: dodge bullets, and he almost has to slowly convince himself

887
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: that it's real. But once he sees it, he can't

888
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: unsee it. For Paul Hughes, how do you unsee the

889
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: real effort that you put in against a very, very

890
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: very credible opponent. I don't think that the person who

891
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: wins this PC because it's actually what's saying is the

892
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: best lightweight in the world. Maybe they'll end up being

893
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: It's a little hard to make that argument over someone

894
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: like Ilia, but certainly a very good fighter is what

895
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: you're getting out of this in the elite one eye

896
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: is what I would say. And Paul Hughes got to

897
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: watch himself, yes, come up short, but not in a

898
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: way where he came up short because well, you've got

899
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: a ton of work to do. I mean, of course

900
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of work that has to be done

901
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: in the camp, but I don't mean like DDP versus

902
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: amzat where it's like I don't even know if you

903
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: can make up that gap. This was tantalizingly close. Now

904
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: I know on some of the judges' scorecards.

905
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: That you know.

906
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't enough to claim three solid rounds of performance,

907
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: but it was enough to be like, I can match

908
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: up with this guy and neutralize his strengths while pressing

909
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: mine in a way where if I got another crack

910
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: at it, you have to believe that he's got a

911
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: better shot this time, even if also Nurmaka Madoff can

912
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: have a better at least in theory could have a

913
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: better performance too. The point I'm trying to make is

914
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't awakening. It was this moment where he is like, Okay,

915
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: this actually is very doable. I can actually make this

916
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: happen now. Whether or not he prepared correctly and whether

917
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: or not you know this is going to be that

918
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: moment to get it done, we shall see. But the

919
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: big takeaway from that one is Paul Hughes was not

920
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: the better guy overall on that night, probably not, but

921
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: is had a moment of recognition about what he can

922
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: be and it started with that disappointing loss.

923
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. Now Usman is twenty seven

924
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: years old, one of the best lightweights on the planet,

925
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: and he did improve to nineteen and oh with one

926
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 2: no contest and that majority decision win in January, one

927
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 2: judge scoring it even, the other two jobs just scoring

928
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: it forty eight forty six for Nirmaga met Off. I

929
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: believe that Nirmaga Metoff really brought it down the stretch

930
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: in round five to take that round clearly, and that

931
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: was the difference on my scorecard three rounds to two.

932
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: But in so many ways you can argue that Paul

933
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: Hughes won that night because of the ascension of how

934
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: he was getting better with each fight. He defeated aj

935
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: McKee and then he went in there against probably the

936
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: best fighter pound for pound that PFL has and rallied

937
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: back in those middle rounds. The body shots were a

938
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: big part of it. I interviewed both fighters when this

939
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: fight was announced, and they are still very contentious when

940
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: talking about each other. Here's Husman and maga Matov looking

941
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: back on their fight in January and realizing the mistakes

942
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: that he made that he feels led to this being

943
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: a close fight.

944
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not surprised about this fight game, you know,

945
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 7: like I know what I did, which mistakes I did.

946
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 7: I was watching this fight and I see a lot

947
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 7: of my mistakes, you know. And it was not my

948
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 7: best trip too. And this time I was in Mautai

949
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 7: and I did very good game. Now I'm in Aukistan

950
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 7: next this this week and next week I'm here and

951
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 7: after that I'm gonna move to Tubai for last my

952
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 7: three for week, and.

953
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 9: This time it's gonna be different.

954
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm turning so hard.

955
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 7: And now I'm here, and that of course I'm with

956
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 7: my family here and I see, I see how they

957
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 7: worry about me and I don't want to make them

958
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 7: or nervous this time. And we'll see around me have

959
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 7: very good guys, good teachers and all my team, and

960
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 7: this time it's deffinitely it's gonna be different.

961
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: Can you share what those mistakes were the first time

962
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: that you just mentioned.

963
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 7: Will you remember in second round, like I beat him

964
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 7: first round, like clean, just kick moving, okay, but not

965
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 7: second round. I just I tried to help hold his neck,

966
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 7: but I'm not through knee and there's his lended couple

967
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 7: of punches on my body. And after that it's it's

968
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 7: it wasn't my plan.

969
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: For this fight.

970
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 7: No, I did something.

971
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: Wrong and and.

972
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 7: If we take.

973
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 9: Downs, I spent a lot of uh energy. But this

974
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 9: time we're gonna we changed it everything. We change it

975
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 9: everything like we change it striking, we change it cleans.

976
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 9: We're gonna be like like very very good.

977
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 10: Shape this time.

978
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: Look, I think he's trying to say because if you recall,

979
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: he seemed to dominate, he was in the striking in

980
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: the first round of their first meeting. Then you saw

981
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: slowly Hughes work his way back in. I mentioned those

982
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: body shots that looked like Usman was gassed in the

983
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: middle of this fight. It felt like he wanted to

984
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 2: say it without really fully saying it, that he had

985
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: an awful training camp the first time around. I'm not

986
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 2: sure if there were injuries that led up to that,

987
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: but it's almost the same dilemma we're in when looking

988
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: at the second Anklia Pooton fight. In regards to what

989
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: Poeton's now saying about how he was compromised. Do you

990
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: agree with usman here that he realizes maybe he took

991
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: Hughes for granted, maybe he under train, maybe he was hurt, whatever,

992
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: but that he's not gonna make the mistake the second

993
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: time around. Or are you sensing a bit of delusion

994
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: in him?

995
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: No? I think he took him lightly. I think he

996
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: took him lightly, not like so lightly that he didn't

997
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: train enough. I mean, clear, he trained enough to win, right,

998
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: He did enough of the job to get his hand raised,

999
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough to close the book, which is

1000
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: why we're right back here, you know. And again that's

1001
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: also partly due to the brilliance that night of Paul Hughes,

1002
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 1: even in a losing effort. But dude, he took him lightly,

1003
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: and you could tell after the fight. I'll never forget.

1004
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: There was one time where you know Phil Baroni, who's

1005
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: I think in Mexican jail for allegedly killing his girlfriend,

1006
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: but he famously like beat the hell out of Evan

1007
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: Tanner but then gassed. And then the first thing that

1008
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: Evan Tanner said when they interviewed him was like, Holy God,

1009
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: that guy hits hard. And you can listen to some

1010
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: of the stuff that Usman said afterwards at Habib as well,

1011
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: that that one was uncomfortably close for them, and you

1012
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: could tell it uncomfortably close because you know, his ability

1013
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: to hit what they thought was his next gear was

1014
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: not there, and whether that was INJURYBC, whether it was

1015
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 1: it not enough roadwork, whether it was whatever. And also

1016
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: before this fight they were like why, you know, why

1017
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: is he a big deal? Then afterwards, remember it's like, well,

1018
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really have to do anything for

1019
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: this guy, which is common for champion talk. But there's

1020
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: just been this tenor of distance and to a degree dismissiveness,

1021
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: except for right away post fight, when the tenor then

1022
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden shifted that tells you the ballgame

1023
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: that that gives it away.

1024
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this rematches in Dubai where it was the first time.

1025
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: This will air Friday during actually our pregame preview of

1026
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: Morning Combat, as the main card begins at eleven thirty am.

1027
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: Eastern cars trucks at eleven.

1028
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: That's what I'm finding on the internet. Yes, live from

1029
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: Dubai there on Friday. We also have Husmann getting back

1030
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: to his sase trash talk ways in saying how this

1031
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: fight will end for Hughes.

1032
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 11: I think you remember this, Paul, who's yes, this is fun.

1033
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 11: Of course he punched me. Of course I will feel this.

1034
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 11: Of course he gonna hurt me. But what's the reason

1035
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 11: he will lose this fight? He was crying, I'm gonna

1036
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 11: make him cry again.

1037
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, he's gonna make him cry again. Well.

1038
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 2: I was able to relay that information to Paul Hughes, who,

1039
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: of course has a different feeling where he feels that

1040
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: Usmann is breakable. He felt he came close to the

1041
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: first fight. Here's Paul Hughes saying about what he's gonna

1042
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: do on Friday. How will this fight ultimately be different?

1043
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not gonna take you lightly. But considering

1044
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: it was such a stalemate over five rounds the first

1045
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: time with the judges being, you know, ultimately split, considering

1046
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: it was a majority decision, How will this rematch be

1047
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:56,919
Speaker 2: different in your eyes?

1048
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 8: How this rematch will be Deafit is ultimately I will

1049
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 8: break him at some point in this fight, no question,

1050
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 8: whether that is round three or whether that is round five.

1051
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 8: I truly, truly believe that I'm going to put the

1052
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 8: pressure on that man early. I'm going to make him

1053
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 8: fight once again. I'm going to make him scramble for

1054
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 8: his life for every single position, and I Am not

1055
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 8: going to get off him until I have him broken.

1056
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: Damn. Okay, all right, I mean let's go right there,

1057
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: right Wow. Paul would continue to close here talking about

1058
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: what he felt when he was hurting Irmagamet off to

1059
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: the body the first time around.

1060
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that he was. I think I almost

1061
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 8: had him broken, and I think that you know, you

1062
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 8: watch that fight back. You look at rounds four and five,

1063
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 8: just before that head clash happened at the very end

1064
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 8: of round four where he had a three minute recovery.

1065
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 8: You've seen the momentum change. You've seen that I had

1066
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 8: started to get my groove, that I was just simply

1067
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 8: walking him down. He did not have the energy to

1068
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 8: take me down or to grapple with me anymore. And

1069
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 8: I was in my groove and I was landing the

1070
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 8: devastating shots. The head flashed, happened, he got a little

1071
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 8: bit of energy conserve back up again. The fifth round

1072
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 8: was close. Some judges give it to me, some judges

1073
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 8: give it to him.

1074
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: I think that I.

1075
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 8: Almost almost hadn't broken last time, but you know this

1076
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 8: time that the odds may go in my favor. Was

1077
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 8: something like that, you know, these things happen, and this

1078
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 8: is why we love fighting, because these things just fucking happened,

1079
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 8: and ultimately, whether odds go in my favorite or not

1080
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 8: next time, I know that over five rounds, I can't

1081
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 8: get him out of there.

1082
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 2: So Luke speaking to him, saying, these things just fucking happened.

1083
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: I did go back and rewatch the fight immediately after

1084
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: interviewing him, and he's right. The momentum was firmly in

1085
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 2: his favor when that ar Aaron headbutt paused the action

1086
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 2: for three minutes. In hindsight, do you believe that's what

1087
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: gave Usman the uh the gas back to hold them

1088
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: off in round five, with two judges scoring it for Usman,

1089
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: one for Hughes.

1090
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: It's a good question. It's a good question. I'm not sure. Well,

1091
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. This is the problem, Like, I'm not

1092
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: I would love to hear what the judges thought were

1093
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: the meaningful differences between them in order to give you

1094
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: a better sense of that. I don't. I don't know.

1095
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: I the question you have to ask yourself is this

1096
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: is this gonna look like the first fight? I don't mean,

1097
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, you might pick Usbin you might not, But like,

1098
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 1: is it gonna have the similar kind of complexion of

1099
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: the first fight, or this is one gonna be like

1100
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: real different for example, of course it's a very different example.

1101
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: But the first fight between Islam and Volk did not

1102
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: look like the second fight between them, right, They were

1103
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: very different. Whereas you can think of certain rematches where

1104
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: the first one kind of followed closely followed the second one.

1105
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: If the first one, if the second one closely follows

1106
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: the first one, I would favor Usman to win this one.

1107
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: I really think that. I'm just And it's kind of

1108
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 1: like a circular way of getting to the answer. See,

1109
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: But the point we're just trying to make is in

1110
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: order to get to a meaningfully different place with the judges.

1111
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: This has to look like a meaningfully different fight overall

1112
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: to start in the middle, and if it goes long

1113
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: at the end, it has to be under much better

1114
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: terms for Paul Hughes, which means much more pressure and frankly,

1115
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 1: much more forcing of boxing range through pressure, and then

1116
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: of course means resisting takedowns and everything else. Like that's

1117
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: what that has to happen here, and I don't really

1118
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: know if it will, but I can't wait until see

1119
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: it on Friday to find out.

1120
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Long Island, Luke, Yeah, I'm sure you definitely saw

1121
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 2: that first fight. It was a classic. We talked about

1122
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: the odds with Usman being a minus one sixty six

1123
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: favorite to the plus one thirty Hughes. I can be

1124
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 2: talked into the idea that that wasn't the best of

1125
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: Usman and now he'll have no excuse but to bring that.

1126
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: Does that sway you betting wise into sticking with the

1127
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: Dagistans here?

1128
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1129
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like if you guys remember they

1130
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 5: were doing that stare down for the first fight and

1131
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 5: Usman said some shit to him, like I can't even

1132
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 5: remember what he said. Like Paul Hughes then looks at

1133
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 5: the camera, he's like he's overlooking me. He's overlooking me,

1134
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: like he clearly went into that first fight overlooking him.

1135
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna have a way better game plan

1136
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: this time. Usman by decision, it's probably plus money. I

1137
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 5: don't think it's dropped yet, but that's gonna be my bet.

1138
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: Lt We could argue, of course, that you know, Dakota

1139
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: Ditschival arguably the most important fighter to build on for

1140
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 2: PFL moving forward. PFLs John Martin told me we played

1141
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 2: the clip there and talked about it that he doesn't

1142
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 2: know if Francis wants to fight MMA anymore. What do

1143
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: you think is a better result here for the PFL.

1144
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: Usman and Marga Medov's staying unbeaten, and you've got a

1145
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 2: strong member of that extended abdulmen app tree that includes

1146
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: Islam Mahachev and the other Normaga Medoffs or Paul Hughes

1147
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: getting the win, considering the draw he is in Ireland

1148
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: and considering that you're probably gonna get a trilogy pretty

1149
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: soon after if he does.

1150
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: Man, that's a great question. I mean, I think the

1151
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: probably default answer would be because of the Nurmaga Madov name,

1152
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: you're a likely to want to go in that direction.

1153
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: That's interesting. On the other hand, you know, I do

1154
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: think that there might be some North American fatigue with

1155
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: how much not with usman per se, but with just

1156
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: how much the American fight game has declined. And you

1157
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: know what am I saying, Paul, He's Irish, so that's

1158
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: you know, he's a native English speakers the kind of

1159
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make versus not so there's less

1160
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: cultural distance. But I honestly probably the number GA madoff

1161
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 1: thing right, I mean, dude, what's going to keep Habib

1162
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: coming back to PFL shows? Paul Hughes? You know what

1163
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, no, in terms of building a fan base,

1164
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: you know, there probably is some real value to milk

1165
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: out of having a member of the first Family of

1166
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: MMA on your roster. That being said, BC, that being said,

1167
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: to your point, Paul Hughes already pretty damn popular in Ireland.

1168
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: You could really blow that out, and I think you

1169
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: could build on that in some other markets as well.

1170
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: I think Paul Hughes could kind of carry over. So

1171
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: I think, listen, this is not like boxing. It's Bob

1172
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: Arams fighter versus Don kingsfighter. They both compete for the

1173
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: same person, so in the end they can milk it

1174
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: either way. Probably the answer is Usman because of the

1175
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: last name.

1176
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 2: Little known fact that Paul Hughes was born to two

1177
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: Irish people in Australia. No, cita, does that bring your

1178
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: father or his libido into this conversation?

1179
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 5: Uh no, but I did forget that. That's a good call.

1180
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe I'll dabble a little bit on Paul Hughes

1181
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 5: at plus money.

1182
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: There you go, there, it is right?

1183
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: How much? What is he agin? How much plus is he?

1184
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: He's only a plus one thirty Paul Hughes.

1185
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow.

1186
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like it's going to be another close,

1187
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: competitive fight. But Usman is slightly the better fighter here.

1188
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. Oh I can't wait.

1189
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 2: Fun tank is refilled and he can wrestle more. That

1190
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 2: could also be a difference maker here.

1191
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

1192
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 2: All right, we as we continue on this, car, Luke,

1193
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: there's a couple other fights worth mentioning. Are you going

1194
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: to be moved at all about the beast beast in again, Luke?

1195
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: What is the old Beaston twenty Not beast, dude, He's

1196
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: not Beaston twenty four to seven. That's Beaston twenty four

1197
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: to seven is for lazy people. Yeah, he's Beast in

1198
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: twenty five eight and he'll.

1199
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: Go oh yeah, he'll go overtime if you need it.

1200
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 2: It's Corey Anderson.

1201
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: We love Corey, but that's a funny nickname. Sorry, it's the.

1202
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: Best you remember. Of course, he fought for the bellowtor

1203
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: light heavyweight title and came up empty there in that

1204
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 2: two fight series with Nemkof. He wants the trilogy. He's

1205
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 2: willing to do it at light heavyweight. I did talk

1206
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 2: to him on my channel. You can check that chat out.

1207
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 2: But Luke, he's had a decorated career. Exited the UFC

1208
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: after a long wind streak turned into a knockout, and

1209
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: then he had that accident where he fell found the

1210
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 2: financial freedom he was looking for. This would be a

1211
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: feather in his cap. If he can go out there

1212
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: beat yak shimerdav a second time and be the official

1213
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: PFL light heavyweight champion, there's a good opportunity for him.

1214
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: This is a great opportunity for him. I think being

1215
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: with the PFL, you know, hasn't necessarily blown up his profile,

1216
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: but I think it's been good for his pocketbook. He

1217
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: is absolutely one of the best light heavyweights in the world. BC.

1218
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: That's that's not hyperbole. He absolutely is one of the

1219
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: best right heavyweights in the world. And you know, I

1220
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: don't know if Dovletz don Yakshimrodov. I don't know if

1221
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: he's exactly the guy to take that from him. They

1222
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: already fought in Belator. Corey kind of toold him a

1223
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: little bit, so I think this is a great opportunity

1224
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: for him. But dude, he's a fighter of this caliber

1225
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: who's this hungry, deserves to be decorated. He's got a

1226
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: great shot at it. On Friday.

1227
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, that loss their first meeting back in twenty twenty one.

1228
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: That was yak Shamuradov's Belatour debut, who was in the

1229
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: quarterfinal of that Grand Prix. He got stopped in the

1230
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 2: third round. He would then lose his next fight to

1231
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Carl Albrexon and then rip off a seven fight win

1232
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: streak across Belator and PFL that takes him to where

1233
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: he is right now. He's coming off a first round

1234
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: knockout of Impa Kasangane last year that won him the

1235
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 2: PFL Light Heavyweight Tournament. He beat Rob Wilkinson beat Raphael karv,

1236
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 2: Julius and Glicas, so he's beaten some names that we know.

1237
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: This should be an interesting test right here for both

1238
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: of them. And then how about this bantam weight til

1239
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 2: Magomed mago medoff against Sergio Pettis. I don't hate that

1240
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 2: at all.

1241
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: No, I don't hate that one, although that is one

1242
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: that I think one of the matchups we didn't get

1243
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: but could in theory could get with a bantamweight attorney,

1244
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: And of course there was a bantam attorney through Bellatore,

1245
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: so this is something of an interesting pairing that you

1246
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: could have got there. But the one I'm actually more

1247
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: interested in BC is not that one. It's actually Archie

1248
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: Colgan taken on JJ Wilson, the one right above that dude,

1249
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Archie Colgan division one wrestler. There's not many of those

1250
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 1: guys or actually I'm not sure if University whelming is

1251
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: division one division two. I think it's Division one. I

1252
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: have to double check, but in any case, undefeated looks

1253
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: the part phenomenal record taken on JJ Wilson, who is

1254
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: probably the best KIWI fighting outside of the UFC. I

1255
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: don't know if that's fair or not. Maybe Long Island.

1256
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: Luke disagrees, but JJ Wilson is a very good fight

1257
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: or different style, so he's more like, you know, boxer

1258
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu kickboxer jiu jitsu type, whereas Colgan little more

1259
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: boxer wrestler. But this one has fun written all over it.

1260
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Colgan twelve and oh j J. Wilson

1261
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: just eleven and one. So I love that fight. That's

1262
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: one of the better fights they can make. Dude. The

1263
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: matchmakers did a good job with this one for sure.

1264
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is Mike Cogan, right, the matchmaker.

1265
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if he's got I think he's

1266
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: got a team now, but I do believe it's headed

1267
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: by Colgan. Yes.

1268
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: Well, they also have this preliminary fight that some people

1269
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: are getting into as the go Artem Lobov returns for

1270
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 2: a one hundred and sixty five pound catchway a bout

1271
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: against Zubairah Tukagov. Luke, that's some Uh that's like a

1272
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: rematch of Connor Habib, is it not?

1273
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. Zubira I think was with that

1274
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: team for a while. That's not that's not that's not false.

1275
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 5: That's what I'm pretty sure Zubairo was the one who

1276
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 5: started that whole thing where they all surrounded Artam, leading

1277
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Speaker 5: to Connor Than coming.

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Speaker 1: With the dolly. The next they're milking the controversy. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're milking the controversy. However, Arts and lobof God Bless

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Speaker 1: Him fourteen fifteen and one, you know, not the best

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Speaker 1: record I've ever seen, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm with you on that. He did beat

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Speaker 2: Powley and Bare Knuckle, although that was disputed, highly highly disputed.

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Speaker 2: Also this weekend, speaking of Bare Knuckle, I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 2: elt I didn't know this was happening until Nocita reminded me,

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Speaker 2: and I like what BKFC does. This is a big

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Speaker 2: one for them. BKFC eighty two is Saturday, going head

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Speaker 2: to head with UFC three twenty. It takes place in Newark.

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Speaker 2: They might as well put it in Newark, Penn if

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it's Mike Perry versus

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Stevens in the main event, Frankie Edgar comes out

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Speaker 2: of retirement to Bare Knuckle, Jimmy Rivera and the Colemane.

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Speaker 2: Of course, there's that wild female fight that we played

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Speaker 2: a lot of have you seen the shit sounds of

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Speaker 2: Christine Ferrea defending her women's Bandamwait title against Jessica Borga.

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Speaker 2: That's it for the most part for names on this card. Luke,

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Speaker 2: will you care in any four m on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: No, No, I will not care. I mean, I'll care

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Speaker 1: in the sense that I hope Frankie doesn't get laid out.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that. Other than that, well, I'm lying. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking lying, right, I mean, I mean.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch a stream at some point, right I.

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Speaker 1: Watch, I'll at least catch the highlights. At a bare minimum,

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Speaker 1: I'll catch the highlights. I'll say that, But I won't.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna spend time away for my family to

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Speaker 1: watch it. I mean, I'll tell you that, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, I'm gonna spend time away for my

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Speaker 2: family to watch UFC.

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Speaker 1: Let me say this. Let me say this. I look

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Speaker 1: this up and I want to just it's got nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with this particular fight. But you mentioned there's

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Speaker 1: BKFC Tomorrow. Tomorrow is Contender series. It's episode A week eight,

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Speaker 1: and in the middle of the card is Eliza Kuban's

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Speaker 1: take it on this dude, I've been talking about Christopher Alvidres.

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Speaker 1: Chris al Vidres. Now, Chris al Vidrez is raw. I

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know much about his opponent, and

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's favored to win this

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Speaker 1: long island Luke, but I called his last fight at

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Speaker 1: xFC that dude is good. That dude is good, explosive,

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Speaker 1: hungry and really really unorthodox game. He thought a UFC

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Speaker 1: veteran in his last fight with US at xFC, with

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Speaker 1: them on my promotion, but with them and smoked the guy.

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Speaker 5: He's a fat dog right now plus two twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Alvidriz, he's a plus two twenty, yes, sir, wow.

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Speaker 1: I gotta learn more about his opponent because that's surprising

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Speaker 1: to hear. He's fucking good.

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Speaker 2: There you go, long on, Luke, letting us know that

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Speaker 2: Wyoming is d one. Luke, Okay, yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: I thought I thought so. I just I couldn't remember,

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Speaker 1: but I thought so.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that is what's going on Friday and Saturday,

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Speaker 2: then let's go to topic number four. This ain't a

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Speaker 2: good topic to talk about, but it did happen and

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 2: it is getting a lot of attention UFC In Pride legend,

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: Vonderley Silva took part in an exhibition boxing match in

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Speaker 2: Brazil on Saturday against former boxing world champion Oslino Popo Freitas,

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Speaker 2: and Vonderlay got viciously knocked out in a post fight

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: brawl that took place because Vonderlay was disqualified for multiple

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Speaker 2: headbuts during the bout. Uh Fabricio ver Doom took part

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Speaker 2: in it. The elements to the story as they got

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Speaker 2: spread around social media with the highlights, they were disgusting

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Speaker 2: and it was actually Freytas's son that ended up knocking

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Speaker 2: out vonder Lay Silva clean during the melee. He would

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Speaker 2: go on to post pictures with a broken eye socket

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Speaker 2: and a bunch of other issues. Don't forget this was

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Speaker 2: the same fighter who wrote publicly in the class action

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Speaker 2: lawsuit about the CTE that is compromising his lifestyle. Right now,

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: So Silva's opponent was outweighed by roughly forty pounds. This

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Speaker 2: was originally supposed to be Silva against Vitor Belfort and Luke.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do we even say it's an old

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01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: guy exhibition. We see a lot of this, Julio says

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Speaker 2: Arshaviz Senior Eric Morales. I mean a lot of these

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,960
Speaker 2: guys are doing these. Roy Jones and Mike Tyson as well.

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Speaker 2: Should athletic commissions at home and abroad consider the legislation

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Speaker 2: that would more closely regulate these or maybe even outright

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Speaker 2: ban them, because the footage we have to show here

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Speaker 2: is just gnarly and ridiculous. Let's check out first the

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01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: way in photo before Luke weighs in. Uh, you see

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Speaker 2: Vanderley at two six. Freytoss, a former one hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty pound and featherweight fighter, came in at one sixty two.

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Speaker 1: Can I jump in real quick? Vitor belfour was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be the opponent and fell out. Yeah, just Raytoss

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Speaker 1: filled in and you would imagine that Vitor I just

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Speaker 1: broquickly would have been closer in wait, but they just

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Speaker 1: had to scramble and this is what they got.

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Speaker 2: And here's the aftermath, of course, uh Vonderlai posting just

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Speaker 2: some awful pictures. Luke, this is what you get when

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Speaker 2: you do shit like this that shouldn't happen. There was

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Speaker 2: no head gear here. This was just straight up old

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: guys getting after it. I know what happened in a melee,

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Speaker 2: not the fight, but Vonderlay's no victim ultimately here he

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Speaker 2: had budded enough to get disqualified. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: why Fabricio ver Doom was involved, but he was throwing

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Speaker 2: haymakers too. How do you even react to this?

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Speaker 1: This should be illegal. This should be illegal. The state

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: in Brazil as well regulates combat sports. Folks often ask,

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Speaker 1: you know, why is combat sports regulated by the government

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01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: or why should it be regulated? I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: an example of the state failing. But this also gives

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Speaker 1: you an example of why it's important that there should be,

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Speaker 1: at least in theory, a regulatory power over this activity,

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01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: because these people cannot be trusted on their own to

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Speaker 1: do this the right way. Guys, what the fuck is

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Speaker 1: I mean? This is why honestly, BC like, I know

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Speaker 1: that the rules that they're gonna do it around as

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Speaker 1: an exhibition, and they're both relatively young, but like, if

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Speaker 1: you've got guys over the age of forty and there's

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Speaker 1: a forty pound weight difference, that's like. And the guy

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Speaker 1: who's in the main event has said in court documents

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Speaker 1: that he suffers from CTE, has already had it. And

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Speaker 1: we know flat lined by crow Cop, flat lined by

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Speaker 1: a rampage and then TKO by Rampage at a later time,

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: was badly rocked by Stan was obviously you know, finished

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: off by Vitor, was flat lined by Hendo, was flat lined.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's been flat lined four different times. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, basically flat lined by crazy Horse, to

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Speaker 1: say nothing of all the shoot to box Jim Morris.

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Speaker 1: That fight should have been fucking illegal. It should have

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Speaker 1: been illegal. It should have been against the law to

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Speaker 1: allow something like that to happen. Because then, as you

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Speaker 1: point out, BC Vanderley a sympathetic character in the sense

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Speaker 1: that he's suffering from all this stuff and then gets

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: viciously laid out yet again, right and has this terrible

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01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: thing happened to him. But at the same point, dude,

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Speaker 1: those head butts were not ambiguous. Sometimes headbuts and boxing,

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01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little hard to tell sometimes a

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Speaker 1: slow motion. This guy's career started in headbutting with valet Tuto,

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Speaker 1: and he's now here after all of this brain trauma

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Speaker 1: and he's headbutting people. He should be banned from combat.

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Speaker 1: He should not be allowed to fight again. And honestly, BC,

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Speaker 1: not just for misconduct, really, that's not even the most

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Speaker 1: important part for his own health. For his own health,

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Speaker 1: the Brazilian government to the except that they have regatory

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: athletic power to regulate this kind of thing, they should

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Speaker 1: prohibit him from ever competing again. A weight discrepancy like

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Speaker 1: this with someone who has put in public record that

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Speaker 1: they're suffering from this, who's been laid out that many times,

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01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: How the fuck is that legal? Why should that be legal?

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01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's deeply obvious in person. Not just

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: a disaster because the the a brawl happened, or because

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: there was a disqualification, but that the risk you ran

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01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: with putting a guy like that in there just leads

1448
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: to unhealthy outcomes BC one way or the other.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, people forget that like this, this crossover

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01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 2: bubble that Jake Paul is still the face of. Like

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01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: it really started in terms of major prominence with Roy

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01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 2: Jones and Mike Tyson in twenty twenty, and we were

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01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: even rightfully so a little nervous about that fight. It

1454
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: turned out to kind of be a win for Tyson

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 2: and they both looked decent and it was whatever. But

1456
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 2: you knew that bubble was going to burst eventually because

1457
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: not only are those largely shit fights, but somebody could

1458
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 2: really get hurt. I mean, I guess in hindsight, for

1459
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Speaker 2: all the shit we rightfully threw at Mike Tyson versus

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Speaker 2: Jake Paul, which let me again remind people, was an

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Speaker 2: officially official fight, not an exhibition. And for as much

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Speaker 2: shit as we gave Jake for carrying Mike to the

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: finish line, what did I want in return? Mike knocked

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Speaker 2: out cold?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what are we talking about with vonder Lay.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about a guy who had a twenty two

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Speaker 2: year MMA career, fought fifty one times, lost fourteen of them,

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Speaker 2: was knocked out in seven of them, was known for

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01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: being an all or nothing brawler for a lot of

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01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: his career, went through a gauntlet in his prime with

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 2: Pride before going to the UFC and just being matched

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01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: up even in his later years with you know, with

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: Bellatore and the tail end of the UFC was just

1475
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 2: getting thrown in there against ferocious brawlers because that's what

1476
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 2: he did. If anybody should not have been sanctioned. And

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 2: then you don't even not even to mention the comments

1478
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 2: that he gave on the record about the class action lawsuit.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: It's criminal. Criminal. I mean, there's one thing to do.

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01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: The chail in Anderson Sova when they recently did that

1481
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 2: charity boxing match whatever it was exhibition that was pro wrestling,

1482
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: that was one hundred percent pro wrestling. If this turned

1483
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 2: out to be that, whatever, But enough enough of this shit.

1484
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I love meles, I love ridiculousness in sports.

1485
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: But vonder Ley got clocked a couple times before he

1486
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,879
Speaker 2: got laid out, and now he's dealing with in numerous

1487
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 2: more issues that, oh, by the way, were brought on

1488
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: completely by himself for how he acted during that fight.

1489
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Let's let's have an uncomfortable conversation. How does this end

1490
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: for vander lay Silva.

1491
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 2: That's probably as worse as possible.

1492
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: Because everyone out there should expect a worst case scenario,

1493
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: and if it's not, we're lucky.

1494
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: Scause they're taking these fights in a lot of instances

1495
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 2: because they need the money. There's no pensions in this game,

1496
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: there's no you know, we all already know all that,

1497
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: but there's also this addiction to get back in there

1498
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: and do the only thing they know how to do.

1499
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: And if no one's gonna step in there and stop them,

1500
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

1501
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: No?

1502
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: But I just I don't even mean that. I mean,

1503
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: like in terms of his brain health, like how like,

1504
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,520
Speaker 1: look at what's happening with Bjpenn.

1505
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 2: You know, I think it all ties in Luke. I

1506
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 2: think it ties into that what I'm saying, Like, you

1507
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: keep letting people do this, they keep adding more trauma

1508
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 2: to their brain. You're gonna have junior sale moments, you

1509
01:13:58,840 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean, You're gonna have.

1510
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: Yes, we should say that out loud. Like again, I'm

1511
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 1: obviously in BC as well. We're not wishing for this.

1512
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: We dread it with every fiber of our being. We

1513
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: hope that it never ever even gets close. But just

1514
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: even if this had not happened, BC, just think realistically,

1515
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: after all that trauma he took just in his professional

1516
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: MMA career, and again, shoot a Box was known for

1517
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 1: having legendary gym wars. They were the Gym War Crew.

1518
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: Before you know, more civilized, relatively speaking forms of training

1519
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: begin to emerge inside of top MMA gyms, they were

1520
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 1: known for hammering each other. And then on top of that,

1521
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: you have this long, storied career and now this kind

1522
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: of stuff is happening. How do folks think this is

1523
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: going to end? How do you think his life is

1524
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: going to look like in its last chapter? It there

1525
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,839
Speaker 1: is no way it's not some form of a disaster,

1526
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: and that could be a disaster not just for him,

1527
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: but the folks around him, and God only knows who else.

1528
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: Like this is so fucking bad for him. This is

1529
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: so bad, frankly, for a society to allow these kinds

1530
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: of things to just have gone on as long as

1531
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: they have. And now even here, Vanderley Silva's life is

1532
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: headed towards a direction that is darker than any of

1533
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: us have the ability to even grasp at this point.

1534
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: And I am frankly terrified of watching that unfold. BC.

1535
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm glad you didn't grab the video in

1536
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: hindsight for this, because it was disturbing to watch. You

1537
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 2: had that like oh shit moment at first, and then

1538
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 2: you get take the totality of it and you're just like,

1539
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 2: this is grow I mean, look, he was flatlined by

1540
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: that punch by Fradis's kid. I mean, like flatlined, dude.

1541
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,839
Speaker 1: People don't realize this. Vander Lay never had great defense,

1542
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: but up until he really got his chin cracked, he

1543
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 1: had like a very resilient chin. He was known for

1544
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: being able to just eat punishment and keep going. And

1545
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: then once that finished off, his career was up and

1546
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: down at that point. But you know, he got I

1547
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: think it was back to back if I'm not missa

1548
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: taking he got Kitko by cro Cop and then got

1549
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: laid the fuck out. When in the next fight when

1550
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: Dan Henderson was able to get two titles at the

1551
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: same time, he was actually the first Champ Champ simultaneous

1552
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 1: Champ champ is when he laid out Vandalalay in another

1553
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: just you know again, it wasn't just BC. He didn't

1554
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: walk across the ring and punch him. They had a

1555
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,680
Speaker 1: war before that, you know what I mean, Like, it's

1556
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: all this fucking damage and then there are this is

1557
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 1: this guy is being allowed to compete.

1558
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 3: It is.

1559
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: It is so fucking unethical that this was allowed to happen.

1560
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for saying that. I mean, he

1561
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 2: maybe forty nine, which is oldest shit for the fight

1562
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: game anyway, but I scared to find out what it

1563
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 2: you know, what his brain ages, you know what I mean,

1564
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 2: his brain health moment, Like I mean, it's just ah.

1565
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 2: That's it for topic number four. Let's go to topic

1566
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: number five. Big time breaking news this morning, of course,

1567
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: uh UFC CEO Dana White announcing that Zoofa Boxing is

1568
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 2: coming and starting in January. Of course, the partnership with

1569
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: the Arabia Turkey alashkin Selo was announced in March, but

1570
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: now they have an inaugural broadcast home and that is

1571
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,839
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus, with the idea of some cards potentially

1572
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: being sinalcasted on CBS, very similar to the UFC deal

1573
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: recently signed there. The terms of the arrangement are not

1574
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: fully known. What some have reported is it's a five

1575
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 2: year deal. What we do know is year one, we'll

1576
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: have twelve cards in a monthly series that will air

1577
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: on Paramount Plus, with the idea of adding more cards

1578
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 2: in the future as they go on I had a

1579
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 2: lengthy interview with Dana White. We're going to play some

1580
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: audio from that that you can check out on YouTube

1581
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 2: on the CBS Sports HQ channel, where I tried my

1582
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: best to get a lot of information out of him.

1583
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: But to be fair, they're still figuring out a lot

1584
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 2: of this on the fly. Him and Nick Con with

1585
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 2: Turkey Ala Sheik's backing, are the brains behind this. So

1586
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: first and foremost here, Luke, what do you believe this

1587
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: means for boxing? We've we've heard Dana's coming a mile

1588
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 2: away for years now. We're pairing him together with Turkey

1589
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: Ala Chic, with TKO's muscle, with Nick CON's you know,

1590
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: business intellect. What are we expecting to kick off next

1591
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 2: year for the world of boxing?

1592
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's an interesting one, right, So, like it

1593
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 1: seems like you Dana has laid this out as you

1594
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 1: articulated the ideas you have there. They're comparing it to

1595
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: Contender Series. I guess it's something akin to that, and

1596
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: then once you graduate, you go into the pipeline to

1597
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 1: fight for uh Turkey l shake, right, So that's that's

1598
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: the planned path. I mean, I have a lot of

1599
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: questions about this, like to what extent, Like, what are

1600
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: the contracts gonna look like? What is pay going to

1601
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: look like? What does a contract with ZUFA Boxing do

1602
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: in terms of locking you into a contract with Turkey?

1603
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: So like there's a question like, what's what's that continuity? Right?

1604
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 1: Because could you fight twice for ZUFA Boxing and win

1605
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 1: both times and then they offer you a fight with

1606
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,400
Speaker 1: Turkey and I'm just I'm just imagining something you could

1607
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: decline it to go to top rank? Like, how does that?

1608
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: How does that even work? You know? But because it's

1609
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: a UBO, I'm gonna guess they're going to create a

1610
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: UBO if the legislation passes. It remains to be seen,

1611
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: So I don't really know what that looks like. Also,

1612
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: a bigger question for me is a couple things. One,

1613
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: what does this do to Dana's bandwidth in MMA, which

1614
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: has already been stretched noticeably thin. Now, of course we see,

1615
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do the kickoff in January,

1616
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: and for the early part of that deal, he's gonna

1617
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,560
Speaker 1: be there obviously UFC White House, he'll be front and

1618
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: center all that stuff, right, But you know, he's one man.

1619
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: There's twenty four hours in a day. How is he

1620
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna split that?

1621
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I did ask him that, Luke, we don't

1622
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 2: have the video to play it. But he did say

1623
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: ultimately that he's fifty six, his daughter went off to

1624
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: college this fall in Miami, his boys are older and

1625
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 2: on their own. He said he's just gonna throw himself

1626
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 2: into it and grind like he knows how, and be

1627
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: everything all at once. Now, obviously, I think that means

1628
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: we're gonna see him pull away a bit more from UFC.

1629
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 2: Even though he didn't say that, you're seeing David Shaw Moore,

1630
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 2: you're seeing John Anna coostmore press conferences. I think you'd

1631
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 2: have to believe Hunter Campbell's going to get a big

1632
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 2: push out of the scenario, right.

1633
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows Max Kellerman as a TA kind of

1634
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: voice could as well. The other part about that is

1635
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: BC is now is from what I saw on the

1636
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 1: press release, I read it this morning and I shared

1637
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: it on Twitter as well, that you know this is

1638
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: going to be on Paramount Plus obviously, and that some

1639
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 1: of these might go on CBS. So why would you

1640
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,600
Speaker 1: put a Contender series event on CBS. I guess I

1641
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 1: don't understand that, like CBS is only taking for UFC

1642
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: numbered events, and you know, maybe they'll put the prelims

1643
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: on there too, But what they're really interested in is,

1644
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: of course, the main event, or I should say the

1645
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: main card rather like that makes a lot of sense.

1646
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 1: Are you really gonna put contender series fights there? So

1647
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: like the way in which this has been described, doesn't

1648
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I guess I would just have. I'm not

1649
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't make sense. I'm saying we don't have

1650
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 1: enough information to fully get a grasp because what they're

1651
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: saying seems, at least in part, a little bit contradictory.

1652
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: It is, but I think data has somewhat clarified that

1653
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: in recent ones. With what you said, the idea that

1654
01:20:54,600 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 2: this will be, you know, he wants to rip up

1655
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 2: boxing from the ground floor, rebuild it. Yes, this will

1656
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 2: be the house of the creating the new stars for

1657
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow to put them on riad season and ring magazine cards.

1658
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know what that means. I don't

1659
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: know if if there could be quarterly cards on CBS

1660
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 2: that involve Turkey fighters as well, or if this is

1661
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: just a ZUFO boxing thing, because remember, we're going to

1662
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: see two to four big events a year on Netflix

1663
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: in which ZUFA fighters will make up the undercards. So

1664
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 2: it's really a lot of that is unknown. Like you're saying,

1665
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,799
Speaker 2: when will that sort of full emergence between ZUFA Boxing

1666
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 2: and what Turkey's doing happen? I think obviously they're gonna

1667
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: have to really establish themselves first. Dana keeps comparing it

1668
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: to UFA's Tuesday night fights, and I don't hate that comparison.

1669
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 2: If if ZUFA Boxing becomes sort of a monthly all

1670
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: action prospect versus prospect thing like he wants to do,

1671
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: it potentially can be exciting. Look before we hear from

1672
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: Dana about a number of things, including the Aliac part

1673
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 2: of this, what do you think this means overnight? You know,

1674
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 2: essentially for Paramount CBS, Like unfortunately, we were a big

1675
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 2: part of what they were doing on Showtime and under

1676
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 2: the old ownership they were forced to sunset Showtime to

1677
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 2: stay alive financially, and now less than two years later

1678
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,879
Speaker 2: they're almost in a premier position in combat.

1679
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's the benefits of merger. I mean

1680
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: you you would be able to answer this question better

1681
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: than me, Like, what is the internal sense.

1682
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 2: That we're going huge on the coverage of this. Obviously,

1683
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 2: we know how much they paid for the UFC. We

1684
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: don't know the financial details of this Soufa boxing package,

1685
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: although I think it's been a rumored to be around

1686
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty two million over five years or

1687
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: two hundred million, excuse me over five years. But I've

1688
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: got to believe this is a major shift in the

1689
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 2: in the broadcasting landscape here combat sports wise, and in

1690
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 2: terms of you know, the Ellison's coming in here with

1691
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: sky Dance and trying, you know, as you read sometimes

1692
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 2: trying to turn Paramount into a something that's competing directly

1693
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 2: with Netflix and Prime, not necessarily just its other sporting

1694
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 2: counterpart points.

1695
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, Paramount Plus has a bigger

1696
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,320
Speaker 1: reach than the ESPN Plus, but is a loss leader

1697
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: and for a while was hemorrhaging money. And they're trying

1698
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: to fix that. And I think bringing in a dedicated

1699
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 1: army of combat sports fans certainly gets you a long way. Again,

1700
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: they're already John Nash believes that there's no possible way

1701
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 1: for Paramount to make their money back with the UFC deal,

1702
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: but that's their cross to bar. You can they can

1703
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:19,920
Speaker 1: figure that out it remains to be seen what it's

1704
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: gonna be costing for the ZUPA boxing side of things.

1705
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 1: They didn't announce any monetary figure on this deal. Again,

1706
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: I guess we'll get some more of that going forward.

1707
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,479
Speaker 1: It certainly positions CBS and Paramount, you know, at least

1708
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: in North America, I mean BC, we've talked about it,

1709
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: like take out Paramount for imagine a second, imagine UFC

1710
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: still with ESPN and blah blah blah. Like the way

1711
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: in which corporate media has pulled back from both MMA

1712
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: and boxing is I think you would agree, based on

1713
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: where it was at a high water mark, pretty alarming.

1714
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: It's a significant draw down. However, it has now the

1715
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: American side of things kind of all just landed in

1716
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: a single home. Now. We don't know what's gonna happen

1717
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: with Operk at ESPN or any other place they might

1718
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: end up going to. We don't know what's gonna happen

1719
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 1: with PFL at ESPNBC. But certainly, by the time January one,

1720
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six rolls around, CBS and Paramount are the

1721
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: leaders in combat sports by a country mile in North

1722
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: America and arguably even the world. Given the portfolio of

1723
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: what they're going to have access to. We'll see what

1724
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: happens from there.

1725
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,599
Speaker 2: Indeed, big news here. Let's hear from Dana. What should

1726
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: boxing fans expect? Here's Dana White.

1727
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 12: When I was a massive boxing fan, I used to

1728
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 12: watch USAYS Tuesday Night Fights.

1729
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time.

1730
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 12: It was one of my favorite shows of all time,

1731
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 12: and all the big boxing stars of the nineties in

1732
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 12: pay per view came off of that show. I felt like,

1733
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 12: back then there were very competitive fights with guys who

1734
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 12: should have been fighting each other at that time, and

1735
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 12: that's what I want to do. I mean, basically, as

1736
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 12: a boxing fan, the way that the UFC was built,

1737
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 12: it was all the things that I loved about boxing

1738
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 12: and all the things that I hated about boxing is

1739
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,759
Speaker 12: how I built, you know, the UFC and the sport.

1740
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 12: So I would expect a lot of what you saw

1741
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 12: early on in the UFC to happen with boxing now.

1742
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 12: But it's different, you know. Being aligned with with Saudi

1743
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 12: Arabia and Shake Turkey. Always wanting to put on these

1744
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 12: fights that nobody sees coming or fights that people don't

1745
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 12: think can be made, is part of the fun of

1746
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 12: it too.

1747
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 5: Indeed.

1748
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: Indeed, it doesn't.

1749
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: Sound like I gotta say, that doesn't sound like Contender

1750
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 1: series to me. No, it's that much bigger.

1751
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It is something much bigger.

1752
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: But it's still an idea to look. He said that

1753
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: him and Nikhan met and they've got a list of

1754
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty the fighters that they're going to

1755
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: go after that he didn't wasn't able to confirm. We

1756
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 2: know they're going to lower the weight divisions. It is

1757
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: currently seventeen or eighteen if you count Bridgeway in boxing,

1758
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 2: and they want to significantly lower that. We know that

1759
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 2: they don't want to use the four sanctioning bodies and

1760
01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: the traditional title system, which is why the ali AC

1761
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 2: changes and the amendments will need to happen for them

1762
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: to award their own championships, which is a controversial topic

1763
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: unto itself. But I did specifically ask him, you know,

1764
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 2: will they be working with other promoters or is this

1765
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,719
Speaker 2: going to be a league on its own? Fighters signed

1766
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: with just them and they only compete against each other.

1767
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 2: Here's what Dana had to say.

1768
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't really know yet.

1769
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 12: Listen, I live in my own little bubble. I'm gonna

1770
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 12: do my thing. I'm not worried about what any of

1771
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 12: those guys are doing. And to be honest with you,

1772
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 12: I think those guys are all they don't think big enough.

1773
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 12: They don't think big enough. These guys have been in

1774
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 12: the business for however long. And I like Eddie Hearn

1775
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 12: and I listen, I see what Eddie her. Eddie Hearn

1776
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 12: went like Oscar d Loo Hooya overnight, you know. But

1777
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 12: he's got a lot of attention, so I get it.

1778
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 12: But I like Eddie, and but I think those guys

1779
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 12: all think small. They don't think the way that I think.

1780
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 12: You know, I have Bob Aaron and you know, a

1781
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 12: bunch of those guys in the past saying that this

1782
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 12: model is ridiculous and it's a joke, the sport's a joke,

1783
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 12: it's never gonna make it. And you know all the

1784
01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 12: things that they've said, But when you look at what

1785
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 12: we've done, we've done things that have never been done

1786
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 12: ever and in the combat sports industry.

1787
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: And I say it all the time.

1788
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 12: Tell me a business or sport that is generated trillions

1789
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 12: of dollars in revenue and at the end of the day,

1790
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 12: there's absolutely nothing there that is the sport of boxing

1791
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 12: in a nutshell, And I just you know, all the

1792
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 12: guys that want to compete with me and all the

1793
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 12: stuff I think, I think way bigger than you guys do.

1794
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:53,959
Speaker 12: So I'm not competing with the other promoters. I'm competing

1795
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 12: with whatever takes the attention of the fans on the

1796
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 12: night that we're on television. It could be a release

1797
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 12: of a big movie, it could be the NFL. It

1798
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 12: could be your wife or your girlfriend that you got

1799
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 12: to take out that night, your kids. That's my competition.

1800
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 2: Look are you feeling like when he says stuff like that,

1801
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 2: like they're not thinking big enough? And in some cases

1802
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: I do wonder if he's right here. I just made

1803
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:19,560
Speaker 2: that mention that at some point it's all going to

1804
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: probably merge together. I wonder if we start off as

1805
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 2: sort of a prospect builder build fighters that will graduate

1806
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: to Turkey. But don't you get the feeling that long term,

1807
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,760
Speaker 2: if Turkey and Dana are gonna partner together for this

1808
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 2: much money, with this much at stake, that it's going

1809
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: to be zuof of boxing, the UFC of boxing. And

1810
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: that's where Turkey, Dana, Nick Conn and all the fighters

1811
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: will live. Like I feel like that's the.

1812
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: Endgame, right, I just don't see how. I mean, I

1813
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: can see how there would be ways that some separation

1814
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 1: would exist in the business over time. It's not to

1815
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:52,640
Speaker 1: say that they'll be exactly the same and they're going

1816
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: to merge and automatically. I mean, I mean Turk Turkey

1817
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: is already still part of zoof of Boxing, even at

1818
01:28:58,200 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 1: this level anyway, So I mean that there's not really

1819
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: no firewall, but you know what I mean, Like it

1820
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: just becomes one seamless operation. I can imagine there'd be

1821
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: some ways that would be departed, but like, what is

1822
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: the natural conclusion of what if he's thinking this big

1823
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 1: right and you're partnered with that entity, what other direction

1824
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 1: does it go unless it just fails? Right, So if

1825
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: it fails, okay, fine, but if it keeps going, like

1826
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: just imagine what the inevitable conclusion is. And sometimes that

1827
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 1: can be hard to do a year, two, three, five,

1828
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: ten years out. But that's just what it that's just

1829
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 1: where it's all headed. They're not trying to change and

1830
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 1: it's a related conversation and we don't have to delve

1831
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 1: into it espress right now. But I just want to

1832
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: bring up they're not trying to change federal laws so

1833
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: they can have a small footprint. They're not trying to

1834
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: do these things where they're partnering with this enormous fund

1835
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: of wealth to have a small footprint. All of this

1836
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:51,439
Speaker 1: is designed. Again, what about what Dana White has built

1837
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: in UFC, even if you love every part of it,

1838
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,719
Speaker 1: what about that has been small in scale and small

1839
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 1: in ambition? Nothing, nothing? Why would that change? Now?

1840
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why when we talk about the possibility of

1841
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 2: simulcast on CBS, what if Turkey gives him a you know,

1842
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: chakor versus Teo type main event, you feel the undercard

1843
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 2: with ZUFA fighters, you put that live and free on CBS.

1844
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: I wonder if we're headed in that type of direction.

1845
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: That's right, Yes, big.

1846
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 2: News right there. And of course the elephant in the

1847
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: room is the ALI Act and whether the changes that

1848
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,560
Speaker 2: have been proposed to Congress that are supposed to be

1849
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,600
Speaker 2: looked at later this year are going to be necessary

1850
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: for it or not to happen for ZUFA Boxing to happen.

1851
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: I asked Dana that Dana Boxing seems to be split

1852
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 2: over the proposed amendments to the Muhammad ali Reform Act

1853
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: that it's expected to be presented in front of Congress

1854
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 2: later this year and already has bipartisan support. We've seen

1855
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people split on this. How important are

1856
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 2: these changes to be made to the idea of you

1857
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: having success launching this league in twenty twenty six.

1858
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 1: Well, let's be clear.

1859
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 12: There will be zero changes to the Muhammad ali Act,

1860
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 12: not one word will be changed. And the Muhammad Aliak

1861
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 12: we're going to add on to it. So the guys

1862
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 12: who you know, guys being fighters that want to fight

1863
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 12: under the Muhammad ali Ak exactly the way it is,

1864
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 12: we'll have that opportunity to do that. And then or

1865
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 12: you can bet on me and fight with me under

1866
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 12: our version of the Muhammad Aliak. So that thing's been

1867
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 12: blown a lot out of proportion. And I get it,

1868
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 12: and I knew people were going to freak out because

1869
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 12: that's what people do. But yeah, what was the question?

1870
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 2: I said, Do you need those changes to happen to

1871
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 2: launch your league in twenty twenty six?

1872
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 5: No?

1873
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Or the amendments that.

1874
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: You want to add on right right, No, but we're

1875
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 1: doing it.

1876
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 12: I listened to the mob l Aliac was put in

1877
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 12: place with all good intentions, but I think that it's

1878
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 12: it's held the business back.

1879
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 2: So look, in some ways we already know new what

1880
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: he said to be true, but I guess he's just

1881
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 2: spelling it out even more. The old Ali Act will

1882
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 2: stay what it is. You can stay with the four

1883
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:09,680
Speaker 2: sanctioning bodies and whatever promoters are not going to be

1884
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,720
Speaker 2: part of or whatever fighters and promotions are not going

1885
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 2: to be connected to Zoofa Boxing. But if you're in

1886
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 2: zuph Boxing, as he says, you're gonna bet on him

1887
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 2: that those amendments in the long run will take care

1888
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 2: of you.

1889
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean we don't have to honor this. I

1890
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: mean right, uh like, hey, uh this is you know,

1891
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Contender series, but it's gonna be

1892
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 1: on CBS. Hey, we want to change federal loah, but

1893
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 1: we don't need it for our product. And it's like,

1894
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:40,519
Speaker 1: who is this? Who is this intended to fool? Like

1895
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: you don't actually need any of these changes? Oh, and

1896
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 1: we're not. We're not changing the Act. We're not. We're

1897
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: not altering one word. We're adding on to it. Yeah,

1898
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: but the add on undoes the other stuff. We're at

1899
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 1: a bare minimum grant's exemption to those who meet the

1900
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: criteria that was designed by lobbyists and written by lobbyists

1901
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,639
Speaker 1: for your company. Like, what the fuck are we talking

1902
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 1: about here? It's just it's saying to me. It's like

1903
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, we're not changing the ALIAC, we're just

1904
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 1: adding on to it. And it's all this like oh no, no, no,

1905
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Speaker 1: it looks like, oh, yeah, we don't need any of

1906
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 1: those proposals for our business to work. Well, then why

1907
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: do you want those changes and why do you want

1908
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Speaker 1: it implemented? Like it doesn't none of this makes any

1909
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 1: sense in terms of the answer and what material impact

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Speaker 1: it will have within your one or year two or

1911
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Speaker 1: year five BC. I guess, I guess we'll see. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand rich people and very powerful people

1913
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: changing motherfucking federal law on being like, yeah, we don't

1914
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: really need this and we're not even changing anything. It's like,

1915
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Speaker 1: just just say what it is you want to do

1916
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: so we can have an honest conversation about it.

1917
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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough on that. We'll see how it all

1918
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Speaker 2: plays out here. As Zufa Boxing set to launch in

1919
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Speaker 2: January on Paramount Plus, we got a bonus topic Today,

1920
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Speaker 2: Topic number six, and we're gonna look at a couple

1921
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Speaker 2: of the biggest storylines surrounding Friday's UFC three twenty card

1922
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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas, one of the final pay per views

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Speaker 2: three twenty is brought to you by Total Wireless, the

1925
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Speaker 2: official wireless provider of UFC. Get unlimited data that won't

1926
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Speaker 2: slow you down. LT. We're gonna go deep on the

1927
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 2: pregame preview on Friday, of course, but I am so

1928
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 2: damn fired up, and I don't feel like people are

1929
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,599
Speaker 2: as excited as they should be for this main event

1930
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: on Saturday, as Mago met Enklaiev looks to make the

1931
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 2: first defense of his light heavyweight title that he took

1932
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 2: via unanimous decision in March from Alex Pereira. It was

1933
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: a big upset, but now we've got this new storyline

1934
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: lingering here of what type of shape was Poeton really

1935
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: in the first time around. I want to play one

1936
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 2: piece of sound for you because I feel like this

1937
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: is becoming a big narrative and then we can respond.

1938
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: I did have Alex Pereira on the Brian Campbell Experience

1939
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 2: this week and he revealed to me just how hurt

1940
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 2: or ill. He won't tell me what happened, but he's

1941
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 2: now coming clean that something held him back from his

1942
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,280
Speaker 2: best performance. Let's hear him talk about that. Deal with

1943
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 2: that is not cool.

1944
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 13: But honestly, man, like, if I put together everything that

1945
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 13: I was going on with me, and I'm not gonna

1946
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 13: say it right now, it makes me even happy that

1947
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 13: I was able to fight, to do the fight that

1948
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 13: I did on everything that was going on in me.

1949
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 13: I'm not trying to talk over there anything like that.

1950
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 13: Of course, I'm not happy that with the lost bug

1951
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 13: teno and like, you know what I mean, the way

1952
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 13: that I fought, You know what I mean, I'm actually

1953
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 13: even I'm surprised that I was able to fight, like

1954
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 13: down everything that was going on with me.

1955
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 2: What had What was the most difficult part about dealing

1956
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 2: with ankle I IV in your first fight in March.

1957
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 13: I think the conditions that I was coming to that fight,

1958
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 13: that I had come into that fights.

1959
01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 2: So I mean, were you fifty percent of what you

1960
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,679
Speaker 2: normally are in that fight forty percent? Are you willing

1961
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 2: to put a number on it?

1962
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 13: Honestly, I was about forty percent on that fight on

1963
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 13: the nights, and obviously it's going to be much more

1964
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 13: this time. But if I'm going fifty percent, that ten

1965
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 13: percent is going to make such a great difference.

1966
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave no doubt for your bad Luke.

1967
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 2: If you remember, it was Joe Rogan who kind of

1968
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 2: put it out there shortly after that fight in March

1969
01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 2: that Poets was battling norovirus that he had a broken hand,

1970
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 2: although that was never confirmed by Perera, who doesn't like

1971
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 2: to make excuses. I like that he's at least be

1972
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,800
Speaker 2: coming honest about this. Do you feel that news as

1973
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 2: excuses for a guy that just lost his title or

1974
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: are you of the belief that if he comes back

1975
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, this is an entirely different fight on Saturday.

1976
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 1: I I'm open to the idea that it could be

1977
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 1: an entirely different fight. I think if Poeton can move,

1978
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 1: he's got he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to,

1979
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, think about his energy output so carefully that

1980
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: his hand is obviously in a place where he can

1981
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: deliver punishment. It's a different fight. The one thing I

1982
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: will say, though, BC is and I will talk about

1983
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: this on Friday, that you know when you look at

1984
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: his takedown defense in that fight, like, okay, I mean

1985
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 1: it basically did the job of stopping takedowns more so

1986
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: that's great, but it looked he just looked so frightened

1987
01:36:56,240 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: in those things. I mean, he was able to get them,

1988
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:00,120
Speaker 1: but like you could tell he was fighting it and

1989
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 1: you want to fight him aggressively, but he was fighting

1990
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 1: it in such almost like a safely neurotically defensive kind

1991
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: of way. If that part is there because you're still

1992
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: just afraid of the takedown or what the takedown might mean, well,

1993
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna get a different fight, PCE.

1994
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Now you might get a boring fight, you know what

1995
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm not even saying it's going to be

1996
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 1: a good fight, but I'm saying to the extent that

1997
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 1: Poetson looks in his defensive wrestling like he did in

1998
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the first fight. Yeah, the good news is, by and large,

1999
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on his feet. The bad news is

2000
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: what that signals is a certain kind of a hyper

2001
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 1: defensive prioritization of something where it should be a little

2002
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: bit more free flowing in the rest of his game.

2003
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't have that, then I think he's

2004
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: got problems.

2005
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do feel like he's not offering this

2006
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 2: like I had asked him three separate times to sort

2007
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:51,080
Speaker 2: of give me like some form of an answer. I

2008
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:53,599
Speaker 2: get that he fought injured like most of that stretch

2009
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 2: when he made all those title defenses in a short period.

2010
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: He saved the card when McGregor broke his toe when

2011
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: he was already battling a broken toe, and then broke

2012
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,800
Speaker 2: the a toe on the other foot in the fight,

2013
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 2: so he's willing to take risks. I thought it was

2014
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,640
Speaker 2: a really good UFC Countdown episode that really put the

2015
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 2: focus on this matchup. It's interesting, Luke, he lost the

2016
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: first fight. He deserves to have lost the first fight

2017
01:38:15,479 --> 01:38:19,520
Speaker 2: talking about Pereira, Yet he stuffed all twelve takedowns from macliath,

2018
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: So it was like there was a win in that

2019
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 2: and it wasn't as if Ankliath like left absolutely no doubt.

2020
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 2: I thought he was the Claire winner, even though I

2021
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: scored at three rounds to two. He was the better fighter.

2022
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: He rocked poets on that one time. But I feel

2023
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 2: like in some ways both fighters could do a lot

2024
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 2: better than they did the first time.

2025
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, absolutely to the extent that Poton was compromised

2026
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: and he can get a better game plan, a lot

2027
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 1: is more possible. On top of that, I think on

2028
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: Cali have kind of heard a little bit of some

2029
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: of the feedback. I'm sure he's happened to win the

2030
01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: title and feels like, you know, there's a degree of

2031
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: happiness he has with a performance. But you know, I

2032
01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,759
Speaker 1: think the fact that they're doing this again probably indicates

2033
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 1: to him that he needs to do it more forcefully.

2034
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: And BC he's had some wild you know, subsequent fights

2035
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 1: with with previous opponents. So but that's another one where

2036
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, some of the rematches did not look the same.

2037
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: So I'll be curious to see what this But but

2038
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean, he must know, he must know they put

2039
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: you right back in this one because there's a little

2040
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:22,280
Speaker 1: bit of unfinished business, Like it wasn't it wasn't it

2041
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 1: just wasn't a very enjoyable handoff of the belt from

2042
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 1: one guy to the other. You know, they're gonna make

2043
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 1: him do again.

2044
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 2: I think he won it with pressure. But even he

2045
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 2: said to himself in the Countdown episode, he now sees

2046
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 2: all these moments where there were openings to step in

2047
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,960
Speaker 2: after he hurt Poton and land more or openings to

2048
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: secure a takedown when he had him backed up to

2049
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 2: the cage that he didn't necessarily take. I mean, I

2050
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: think we can say is he first team all donk

2051
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 2: In some ways he is, but he's also tentative to

2052
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,719
Speaker 2: a fall, even though he was the guy putting on pressure,

2053
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 2: and I think that was the reason why he had

2054
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 2: so much success. I think they both can do a

2055
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 2: lot better. I'm expecting a better rematch here in payment wise.

2056
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 2: The Draftking odds at the moment, by the way, minus

2057
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,479
Speaker 2: two point fifty eight Anklia plus two ten Perreira. So

2058
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: that's pretty damn interesting here Long Island. Look quickly on that.

2059
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 2: Uh you gotta be you gotta be loving Perreira plus

2060
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 2: odds to come back at age thirty eight and potentially

2061
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 2: uh right, the wrong, right.

2062
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2063
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 4: I did get uncle Ive at plus money in the

2064
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:24,840
Speaker 4: first fight, so the odds are reversed this time around.

2065
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 5: I think I those are two plus two ten for Jesus,

2066
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 5: I gotta take that.

2067
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I'm a I'm a believer that he will

2068
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 2: be healthier, more vicious, and more active. Here's Poeton hitting

2069
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 2: the pads with Planio Cruz there at the PI. Watch

2070
01:40:39,360 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 2: the ferocity here? What don't dead wrong me? That was

2071
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 2: obviously glover to sheriff for most of those there on

2072
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,839
Speaker 2: the business end. But Luke, any fighter can look dangerous

2073
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 2: on the pads. But if he's going to be coming

2074
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,559
Speaker 2: forward rather than backing up in this rematch, it's it's

2075
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 2: gonna be fun.

2076
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: He looked the body language look good. But I mean,

2077
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't tell us much about takedown the fence. I'll listen.

2078
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: I'll just say I'm excited for the fight. I think

2079
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,439
Speaker 1: most people are, especially a plus two ten. I'm not

2080
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: a gambling guy, but just the notion of how people

2081
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: dude people. Every twenty twenty four, how many of these

2082
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: Jubbronis were like Poeton's the fighter of the year, and

2083
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty five they forgot about him. Yes, they

2084
01:41:49,640 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: forgot about him. They don't care about the Shama. They

2085
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,880
Speaker 1: got him at plus two ten against on Calive. Well,

2086
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 1: apparently twenty twenty four was not all that impressive.

2087
01:41:57,400 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 2: Interesting, Well, they had a little run in at the

2088
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 2: PI that has been the big early topic in the

2089
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 2: narrative storylines. Here's just a quick little sprinkle of the

2090
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 2: two of them exchanging words.

2091
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: That.

2092
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, look they have to talk trash through a through

2093
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 2: a translator app on the phone, so it loses that feeling.

2094
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 2: But Perrera accused Ankolia of hiding at the p I

2095
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 2: when he when he walked in, ankliav called him a liar.

2096
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,600
Speaker 2: They did, they met a few times, they did some

2097
01:42:30,720 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 2: back and forth. I'm just like, you want to poke

2098
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 2: the bear poeton. You want to make make him feel

2099
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 2: like people forgot him. I mean, I hear people in

2100
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,840
Speaker 2: a may circle saying, you know, one more loss in

2101
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 2: his career is over. Dude, this guy's about to this

2102
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,759
Speaker 2: guy might come back, and you almost have forgot on Saturday.

2103
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,559
Speaker 2: Seriously that type of thing.

2104
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: Or dude, you have a moment on top and when

2105
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 1: it's over, it it is over.

2106
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 2: Well, here's one more clip of Pereira Aura farming at

2107
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:00,920
Speaker 2: a haunted house. If it's something these are we watching?

2108
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 2: What the fuck is every single one?

2109
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Speaker 5: There?

2110
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:11,280
Speaker 3: You go?

2111
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm really glad we added that to the show. Thanks.

2112
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, that was from have you seen This Ship? But

2113
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 2: I pulled it for this to make it move back.

2114
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Speaker 2: Ok Okay, that's UFC three twenty of course on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: fans here. Every Sunday night at morning combat on X

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Speaker 2: and the IG we give you a chance to get

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01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:53,799
Speaker 2: your questions answered. This one's called DMS from all horned

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01:44:53,880 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 2: up donkey. Yeah, that's that's still gross to me.

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01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: Luke won't lie to you, it is disturbing.

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01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Our first question comes from nankissoor you go back in

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01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: time to twenty fifteen, you can speak with any fighter

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01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:17,320
Speaker 2: for five minutes. Who do you choose and what do

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01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:19,480
Speaker 2: you tell them? Interesting?

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01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:27,440
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, Maybe Rousey.

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01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 2: But at twenty fifteen?

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01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: She uh, I guess that's twenty fourteen, right, I think it.

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01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:38,439
Speaker 2: Was thirteen and she lost in December of twenty fifteen

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01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: to Hollyholm. I believe, right, Yeah, yeah, that's correct.

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01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: What would I tell them? I don't guess. I guess

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01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 1: I understand what am I trying to tell them?

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01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 2: I think you're trying to save them from themselves. I mean,

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 2: you can't tell them about nine to eleven. You gotta

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01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: you know, like that's not gonna work up timeline wise.

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01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 2: Do you tell her don't take that home fight on

2162
01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: such a short turnaround when you're filming a movie and

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01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,719
Speaker 2: don't trust Edmund to teach you boxing?

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01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: And yeah, I probably do that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, i'd probably Warren Kane.

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Speaker 1: That's not a bad call. That's not a Yeah, that's

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01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:17,760
Speaker 1: a good costs a much better call. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know where else we're supposed to go

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Speaker 2: with this.

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01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, kind of a weird question.

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01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, get your get your name on the class action

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01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:29,080
Speaker 2: lawsuits so you can collect in twenty twenty five. Maybe,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Okay, great, let's go

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01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 2: to the next question here, uh from a man and

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01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:39,160
Speaker 2: his cat. If you could pick three combat sports athletes

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Speaker 2: for a dinner party, who would you have? And the

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Speaker 2: translators come for free if needed. LT give me a

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Speaker 2: in your damn dining room which three MMA fighters? And

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01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: don't do the bit where you relax.

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01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm allowed to reject performative gen reflection,

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01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:00,080
Speaker 1: but we'll put that aside. I perform an.

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01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Really jenniflect in hotel rooms all the time.

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Speaker 6: I bet you do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me think. Mmmm. The thing is, I would

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01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,400
Speaker 1: have picked Jail, but I've interviewed him so many times

2187
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,320
Speaker 1: and I still occasionally stuck talked to him over text,

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01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:18,759
Speaker 1: So I don't know if i'd put I mean, ordinarily

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01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:25,799
Speaker 1: he'd be candidate one. Right, Yes, man, that's a good question.

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01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,559
Speaker 1: Go first, I can get my like juices flown here,

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01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 1: like would you.

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Speaker 2: I love DC? Is he eligible? Can I pick Daniel Cormier?

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01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: Sure, that's a great conversationalist as well.

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01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 2: Yep, he'll He'll make you laugh, he'll make you feel good.

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01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: I got one. Brian stand, I do, Brian stand? Okay, Okay, Joanna,

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01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 1: I'd rather go hungry?

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01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: All right? I mean, could I do wrong with Dustin

2198
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 2: Poier or Max Holloway? I mean these are you know?

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Speaker 1: How could you go wrong with either? How could you

2200
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: pick one o the other?

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna pick all right, I got DC,

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01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:09,960
Speaker 2: I got Youanna, and I got Layla Mature. No, sorry,

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01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 2: I got uh, Sean Brady.

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01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: Sean Brady's pretty good. I'd add, I'd add, I'd add Max,

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01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: and then I'd add Man. I feel like we gotta

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01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:37,840
Speaker 1: get you know what. Yeah, I'm gonna take yeah exactly. Well,

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01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm actually gonna have the pairing of Holloway

2208
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 1: and Volk together because rather than just trying to just

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Speaker 1: be like, oh, I want just three great names, I

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01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 1: want to pick people who had a rivalry and then

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01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: dig down in the rivalry. And I know it was

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01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: one sided in that sense, but still, you know.

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01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 2: Will you watch the second fight with them for the

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01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 2: fiftieth time in your life?

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Speaker 1: That would be the only case where I would be said, Okay,

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01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: maybe occasion where I.

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Speaker 2: Would along Island Luke wants to cook with Vulk, and

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01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 2: then everyone else is awesome.

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01:49:07,040 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: Sure, And then he says Gasoline because this is him

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01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: writing it. He reads Gasolum because he eats good.

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Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of at a dinner party, Gaslom's gonna

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01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 4: be like, we need this, we need this. He's gonna

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01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 4: bring like good sides and stuff.

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01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 1: You know, I think he might eat the side.

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01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's he will, but he's gonna

2226
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 5: bring the good ship, all right?

2227
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 2: What about Carlos Pratish if he was willing to smoke.

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01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 5: Outside, that's pretty good.

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01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, you need a drinker, you need

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01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 4: a wild card, just heavy drinker, you know, like I

2231
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 4: was thinking, tied to a vasa.

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01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: So I was gonna god, I mean, but yeah, but

2233
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:33,759
Speaker 1: then he's gonna pee on your furniture.

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01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he might be a little too wild. You know,

2235
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,640
Speaker 5: you gotta go a little tamer. But who else is

2236
01:49:37,720 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 5: like like maybe like Paul Craig, you know, he might.

2237
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 2: Be okay, how about Paul Craig, Michael Kias like basically

2238
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 2: our best room.

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01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 1: Service diaries, like yes' is a good call too? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, there's something. There's a few different directions you

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01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: could go.

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01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, interesting stuff. Our third question comes from

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 2: Kubbies fan eighty. If there was a mount rushmore of

2244
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: one hit wonders, Flagpole said up by Harvey, danger has

2245
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 2: to be on it right, yes for me? But yes,

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 2: what are your go to favorite one hit wonders.

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01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 5: Of both umm.

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01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 1: One hit wonders? Let's think about that. I mean, definitely

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01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 1: has to be And I said, what about.

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Speaker 2: That deep blue something?

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01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's gotta be on the list, right, that's.

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01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: Onlin Yeah, I'll put that on their flagpoles. It about

2253
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 2: Harvey danger.

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01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 1: Let me ask a question. Are the Spin Doctors one

2255
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:29,759
Speaker 1: hit wonders?

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 2: No, they are. They're more of a one album wonder,

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01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 2: but they have multiple hits on that album.

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01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

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01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 2: How about you Get what You Give by the New Radicals.

2260
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another good one. Uh what is that song

2261
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:42,320
Speaker 1: by the Knack?

2262
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 8: Oh?

2263
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: Uh, my Sharona, my Sharona. Let mean, come on, that's

2264
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 1: a banger.

2265
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 2: That's a banger. How about the Freshman by the verb Pipe?

2266
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 1: Come on, come on, that's another good one. Yeah? Yeah,

2267
01:50:58,800 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 1: what are someones we're not thinking?

2268
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 5: There were so many in the ninth Melon one hit Wonder,

2269
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 5: No Rain.

2270
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,320
Speaker 1: No Blind Melon was a bit they had a bit

2271
01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 1: of a following. That's a little different, but they.

2272
01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:11,599
Speaker 2: Were like yeah, yeah, yeah, how about uh, oh Matt

2273
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 2: snot our buddy, our Daniel Snyder's nephew wants torn by

2274
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:15,759
Speaker 2: Natalie and Brulia.

2275
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: Didn't she have a career in Australia, wasn't she Australia?

2276
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:23,679
Speaker 2: Maybe? What about come On Eileen by Dexys Midnight Runners.

2277
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 1: I did plenty of that in college.

2278
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 2: Hey, oh goodness, goodness, Oh dude, I know which one?

2279
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Massie Starr? What's that? What's that song they had? Yeah,

2280
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 2: fade into You. That's kind of a banger on the radio.

2281
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 1: I hate that song, of course you like it on

2282
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: your Orange subar.

2283
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 5: What about Marcy Playground Sex and Candy?

2284
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, hanging around?

2285
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: How about what about Local h Bound for the Floor.

2286
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean that wasn't the biggest hit, but you know

2287
01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: that's a.

2288
01:51:54,800 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 2: Good one time by Semi Sonic.

2289
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

2290
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 5: We're only naming nineties.

2291
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:01,240
Speaker 2: So yeah, we are.

2292
01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 1: Well, we're fucking in our forties. We are in LA

2293
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 1: So what do you want from us?

2294
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, uh there we go. Good stuff there. Let's

2295
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,200
Speaker 2: hear it from Sergeant Molina. If you had to replace

2296
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 2: yourself with one active fighter, you want active UFC fighter

2297
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: to co host MK. I assume permanently co host MK.

2298
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 2: So Luke, let's say tomorrow, I say, Cyan Rrow. We

2299
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 2: had a good run. But the key is they're like,

2300
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 2: we're only continuing with the show and paying you. If

2301
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 2: you pick an active UFC fighter, who are you gonna call?

2302
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 1: You're not easily replaced, I'll say that. Fuck, I don't

2303
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: even know who could do the job. I'm not even

2304
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 1: sure we could do the job at MMA media, much

2305
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 1: less among active UFC fight long on Luke time in here,

2306
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 1: Like what direction am I supposed to be going?

2307
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 5: I was going to say, like anyone who's a commentator

2308
01:53:03,640 --> 01:53:06,599
Speaker 5: like Paul felderm is domm.

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01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:09,280
Speaker 1: They're not active the rules.

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01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 5: You gotta be be throwing the hands, all right, Kiessa

2311
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 5: is active.

2312
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: Still, guess I could do it. I have a good

2313
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:18,960
Speaker 1: rapport with kios So yeah, I mean that's probably the

2314
01:53:18,960 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 1: closest I'm gonna get.

2315
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 5: This is hard who's good at breaking down fights as

2316
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 5: an active fighter?

2317
01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: They're all they all have some ability. But the question

2318
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: is not just that it's boxing, you know, it's talking

2319
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: on camera.

2320
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:33,479
Speaker 2: It's more humility maybe too, you bitch, bitch.

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01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,639
Speaker 1: The entire show today was your catalog of interviews. Where

2322
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 1: is this humility coming? Wait?

2323
01:53:39,360 --> 01:53:39,640
Speaker 7: It was.

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 2: It was a big special. Yeah, it was a big focus.

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01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?

2326
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wait, let me look at the rankings. If

2327
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:52,760
Speaker 2: I had to replace Luke right now? Hey, Hey how

2328
01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:55,599
Speaker 2: about Tom aspinall not bad?

2329
01:53:56,240 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 1: Not bad?

2330
01:53:57,280 --> 01:53:57,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

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01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know not because these British you might have

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 1: a little boxing.

2333
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: Corey Sandagan, he's he's he's got dry humor for days, right.

2334
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Cory Santagan was the one that I can that popped

2335
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: in my mind first, but I wasn't sure if it

2336
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: was a good call or not.

2337
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I mean, or I could just go

2338
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: like Montana.

2339
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: The way I found out something about Corey Sandhagen for

2340
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: the fights. He is not working with Ryan Hall anymore.

2341
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I did find that out

2342
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:28,200
Speaker 1: and keep that in mind because I think grappling's going

2343
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:29,880
Speaker 1: to be a pretty important part part of this fight.

2344
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, let's go over our final question from Mike

2345
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:36,840
Speaker 2: Cringe in nineteen nine.

2346
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:37,880
Speaker 1: That's it, you nailed it.

2347
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm stealing this one from another podcast. But what would

2348
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 2: twenty five year old BCNLT be most surprised about current day?

2349
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: U Twenty five was the last year that I was

2350
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: an absolute dirthole luke, So I would.

2351
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 1: Do I'm still the same piece of shit that I

2352
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: ever was.

2353
01:54:54,440 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 2: Wow, I would be entirely surprised about my life right now.

2354
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 2: But the most surprised would be easily my career. Easily yeah,

2355
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 2: not even like, not even close nothing, because.

2356
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 1: I think I think would be how little my life

2357
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:09,160
Speaker 1: has changed.

2358
01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 2: Oh, get out of here.

2359
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:16,120
Speaker 1: You don't really mean that kinda kinda I've done some

2360
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 1: cool things.

2361
01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 5: But.

2362
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 2: Wife and wife and daughter.

2363
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Come on, now, I didn't say I wasn't lucky. I'm

2364
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: talking about me personally. Talk about me personally. Yeah, yeah,

2365
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:36,360
Speaker 1: i'd probably say that there's I did not do the

2366
01:55:36,440 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 1: things I thought I would do between twenty five and

2367
01:55:38,560 --> 01:55:43,040
Speaker 1: forty five. Really yeah, yeah, I think I actually I

2368
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: feel very comfortable saying that.

2369
01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 2: Do you realize there's still time or no?

2370
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's true. Yes, yes, life is full of dude,

2371
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,280
Speaker 1: life is full of. If there's one thing I've learned BC,

2372
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 1: it's that it is very hard to predict the future.

2373
01:55:57,640 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 1: Just when you think you've got to figure it out,

2374
01:55:59,400 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 1: you don't.

2375
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think i'd be a part of the UFC

2376
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 2: machine right now, I'll tell you that much.

2377
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 1: I did not think that turning that butter turn.

2378
01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 2: Here we go, all right, Thank you for those dms.

2379
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 2: Remember you can reach the show at Morningcombat at gmail

2380
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:17,120
Speaker 2: dot com. Tell Mikey we said, Hi, We're not gonna

2381
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 2: play your fans or dead wrongs this Friday, but we'll

2382
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 2: be back next week. So reach the show, show your privates.

2383
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,600
Speaker 2: It's Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Our final segment gives

2384
01:56:26,640 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 2: me an opportunity to search the internet the highs and lows,

2385
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 2: the good, the bad, the ugly, the in between for

2386
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 2: the weirdest videos of the week to get Luke Thomas

2387
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 2: to emote. This one's called have you seen this shit? Luke?

2388
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 2: Let's check in on the NFL Reason number five thousand,

2389
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 2: not to bring your family to a game. Here's forty

2390
01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,840
Speaker 2: nine Ers versus Cardinals.

2391
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,400
Speaker 1: Why would you ever go to a football game?

2392
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:00,640
Speaker 2: Why would you bring your children?

2393
01:57:00,840 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like, what what on earth could possibly be the point?

2394
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 2: All right? Watch that big guy in the red shirt closely. Okay,

2395
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,160
Speaker 2: the guy looks like Bio Cruise.

2396
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: I got my oh, dude to These people are drunk,

2397
01:57:16,160 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: reckless zeros. They don't mind going to jail, and then

2398
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,600
Speaker 1: they want to sit around you. Why the fuck would

2399
01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: you ever go around these people?

2400
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 2: Wow? Wow, yeah that's still going on. Look at that

2401
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:32,320
Speaker 2: guy in the wife beater right. Oh, I mean this

2402
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:34,960
Speaker 2: thing is just gonna keep playing world Star style.

2403
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:36,640
Speaker 6: This is this is.

2404
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is why I have a big screen TV.

2405
01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.

2406
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 1: Alright, that's why this is why I'm a dedicated Samsung customer.

2407
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 2: Yes, well, Luke, I got the footage of that moment

2408
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,880
Speaker 2: I mentioned from your team the Commanders. Here's Marcus Mriatta

2409
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:54,879
Speaker 2: sending your coach.

2410
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: To hell Mariota.

2411
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, oh you know, same thing upside down right.

2412
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 1: Take that Dan Quinn.

2413
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,960
Speaker 2: Wow, that head the head bounce. Did you see that?

2414
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? It did and cut his nose too.

2415
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 2: Uh. The NFL was in Dublin this weekend. CBS Sports

2416
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:10,880
Speaker 2: was on the scene.

2417
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 1: Our good friend went out very quickly. NFL made it

2418
01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:15,839
Speaker 1: to Croke Park before Connor McGregor.

2419
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: Amazing, amazing, Right, Well, the NFL pregame show there with

2420
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 2: our good friend Amanda Gara, a G two. They had

2421
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,600
Speaker 2: a little bit of a drink off with the with

2422
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:27,400
Speaker 2: the analysts. Check out Kyle long hair.

2423
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:30,080
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. We're doing now.

2424
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 3: Okay, Kyle's just gonna check the whole thing like a

2425
01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 3: freaking champ Ireland.

2426
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 1: Okay, we love football, We love Ireland. Here at the

2427
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: NFL to night plus, Kyle totally chugged it.

2428
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 5: You didn't quite get it, You didn't quite get it.

2429
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:45,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for the beer boy.

2430
01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 2: Wow, took that guy downtown?

2431
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 6: Right?

2432
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: Uh? That is Howie long Son?

2433
01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 2: I think so?

2434
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 12: Yes, Kyle?

2435
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 2: Correct?

2436
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is uh?

2437
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 2: Or was that Chris Long? Who's ky wait? Long Island? Look?

2438
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 2: I always make football errors and get dead wrong hair?

2439
01:58:58,840 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 2: Can you fill in here?

2440
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 5: I'm not the guy.

2441
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:01,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2442
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 1: He's like bro, he doesn't play for the Jets. I

2443
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 1: don't know ship.

2444
01:59:05,760 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's head over to the food truck scene.

2445
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 2: You ever seen this truck before?

2446
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,040
Speaker 1: Crazy for Cox and asks what the fuck.

2447
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:23,480
Speaker 2: I'd eat there? Luke, I'd eat there, desprite the name?

2448
01:59:23,520 --> 01:59:23,840
Speaker 1: All right?

2449
01:59:23,960 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 6: You know what?

2450
01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 7: Now?

2451
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: You know now BC and I are intrigues, you know, yes?

2452
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, it's UFC Perth time. Here's your question

2453
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 2: of the week from the presser.

2454
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,120
Speaker 8: Do you get do you do?

2455
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 7: You agree with everyone else that Carlos is the best

2456
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 7: the best looking guy in the UFC.

2457
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:47,480
Speaker 1: Man, I gotta I gotta fight this ugly as dude

2458
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 1: right here?

2459
01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:48,440
Speaker 2: Are you serious?

2460
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:53,160
Speaker 3: Yes?

2461
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Sir?

2462
01:59:55,240 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 1: Uh?

2463
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 3: Uh?

2464
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 2: Do you think they saw each other again? Luke?

2465
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:06,919
Speaker 1: They should bring back corporal punishment in society.

2466
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Jimmy Crup postfight look, he's

2467
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 2: just one of us at the end of the day.

2468
02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 10: And finally, any bestment couple.

2469
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 1: Bees and karaoke to not that's what I'm feeling. What's

2470
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: your charaokee? So anything by create? I reckon, I'm gonna

2471
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:25,720
Speaker 1: reap the fucking dude.

2472
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 5: Do you wanna do you want to give it a

2473
02:00:27,800 --> 02:00:30,200
Speaker 5: crackna canduing me?

2474
02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go.

2475
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 2: Home now, right, come on, come on, Luke. No, we

2476
02:00:43,280 --> 02:00:45,560
Speaker 2: should do Creed Karaoke Night with MK if we had

2477
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:46,720
Speaker 2: a budget, that'd be great.

2478
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 1: Creed Karaoke Night. Yeah, I think we'd get thrown out

2479
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:52,720
Speaker 1: of any bar we.

2480
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:54,880
Speaker 2: Did that where our fans come and then we all

2481
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 2: just get sloppy.

2482
02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 1: And all right that that would be a little bit

2483
02:00:58,120 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: different that I might do.

2484
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:02,560
Speaker 2: But Luke, with the holiday season is coming on fast,

2485
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 2: I got some gift ideas for you. I mean, you know,

2486
02:01:10,520 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 2: not directly from you, to be fair.

2487
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe I'll give that gift certificate to my wife,

2488
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2489
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you very much. Your riz of the Week

2490
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:20,440
Speaker 2: shout out to the Wrizzler goes to this guy, the

2491
02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:22,040
Speaker 2: tea smasher. Look at this guy.

2492
02:01:22,320 --> 02:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is the weirdest build on a man. I

2493
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 1: have ever seen you know that guy bangs?

2494
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 2: You know it?

2495
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean absolute whoors?

2496
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, let's go back to our famous

2497
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 2: segment would you eat?

2498
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 7: Now?

2499
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:40,720
Speaker 2: Look, this was proved to be fictional AI and not real,

2500
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 2: but Branson, Missouri, once considered having the first McDonald's buffet

2501
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 2: at twelve ninety nine, selling cheeseburgers, nuggets, and fries. Would

2502
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:52,680
Speaker 2: you eat for twelve ninety nine?

2503
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:53,280
Speaker 1: Yes?

2504
02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:55,560
Speaker 2: I would take that thing down.

2505
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean that food is all beige, but I

2506
02:01:59,120 --> 02:02:04,040
Speaker 1: would listen. I ate at fucking roy Rogers buffets. What

2507
02:02:04,240 --> 02:02:07,560
Speaker 1: on earth could be worse than that at McDonald's. Nothing? Yeah?

2508
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 2: Well maybe this next food on him? Would you eat this?

2509
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:10,240
Speaker 1: Luke?

2510
02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 2: They called a ravioli dog?

2511
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 1: No, because I'm not in prison.

2512
02:02:15,080 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's called a weeni.

2513
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,680
Speaker 1: This is the kind of food Long Island Luke makes

2514
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:21,440
Speaker 1: for his girlfriend, which is why his relationships.

2515
02:02:21,480 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 2: Hell no, hell I would totally eat that out of

2516
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:25,320
Speaker 2: his house and then hit that jobt.

2517
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,160
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, what's on top of that hot dog? Yeah?

2518
02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,760
Speaker 1: Bee for RONI? Yeah, I'm good, Luke.

2519
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,560
Speaker 2: Our next final would you Eat? Is mixing two of

2520
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 2: my favorite things, maybe just not together at the same time.

2521
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, some British piece of shit came up with this,

2522
02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 1: These dog food eating motherfuckers. Why would I eat this?

2523
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Even on a dare.

2524
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we make that joke on my boxing pod with

2525
02:02:46,160 --> 02:02:48,080
Speaker 2: Rae where he's like, you know, my favorite two things

2526
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 2: in the world are women in boxing, just not at

2527
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 2: the same time.

2528
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 1: Right by the way, you know who I talked to

2529
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 1: last week very briefly. I didn't tell you about this.

2530
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:01,600
Speaker 1: I will after the show. Uh, uh, are are what

2531
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:06,800
Speaker 1: was his name? The fuck Jake? Basically Jake, Jake von Amsterdam,

2532
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,280
Speaker 1: Jake von Amsterdam. Yeah, I spoke to Jake von Amsterdam.

2533
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:11,720
Speaker 2: All right, nice, I love that guy.

2534
02:03:11,920 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see all right.

2535
02:03:13,640 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 2: Uh your your police check of the week. Uh check

2536
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,440
Speaker 2: this out, good old Brandon missus.

2537
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 1: I saw this watch this hit. Oh fucking lord, dude.

2538
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:30,880
Speaker 1: And if you hear the audio, he lands on that

2539
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,080
Speaker 1: thing like like I don't know, like I mean they

2540
02:03:34,280 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: they He actually gets up, he goes, you broke my back.

2541
02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 1: You broke my I bet he did, sir. Don't run

2542
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 1: in cuffs, doctor.

2543
02:03:42,520 --> 02:03:44,760
Speaker 2: Said, I need to back out of me, Luke. Lacrosse

2544
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 2: can be a dangerous game. Be careful before putting your

2545
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:49,640
Speaker 2: kids in it. Check out this referee in this game.

2546
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:55,760
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that has to be It wasn't. No, it

2547
02:03:55,840 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the bozak, but it was that insort inside soft

2548
02:03:58,960 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 1: power of yea.

2549
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:04,600
Speaker 2: It gets worse for this lacrosse player. Let's watch this.

2550
02:04:07,480 --> 02:04:07,800
Speaker 1: Dude.

2551
02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:10,200
Speaker 2: First, he gets punched in the face and then hit

2552
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:11,920
Speaker 2: in the face by the those balls.

2553
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Those lacrosse balls, those things are weapons. That is an

2554
02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: insane level of punishment to take.

2555
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,440
Speaker 2: Look. Want to see my dream couch from my first apartment.

2556
02:04:21,480 --> 02:04:23,440
Speaker 2: I wish I had this. I would have probably gotten

2557
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 2: the same amount of sex though to be fair, right, you.

2558
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 1: Know, anybody who gets laid in that apartment must be

2559
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: the world's best lover, because no straight woman would ever

2560
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:34,640
Speaker 1: want to fuck a guy there.

2561
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the assembly. Here's your three

2562
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 2: pointer of the week. Watch the balls on this kid, Dude,

2563
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm here for that.

2564
02:04:52,640 --> 02:04:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, you know that kid ain't gonna amount to

2565
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:55,080
Speaker 1: nothing in life.

2566
02:04:55,720 --> 02:04:59,200
Speaker 2: Probably not. Let's set up our crash outs of the week. First,

2567
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:00,680
Speaker 2: we'll check out Goooter Karen.

2568
02:05:00,760 --> 02:05:16,640
Speaker 1: Here they were buddys? Was that German?

2569
02:05:17,200 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 2: I think it was Dragon? Actually, I don't know that

2570
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 2: was pretty scary. Uh, let's go to the tennis court

2571
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:45,360
Speaker 2: for the next rage out. That's great.

2572
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: You know, I will say this, Karens actually do have

2573
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 1: you know how like buzzards. You need them in the

2574
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 1: ecosystem to like eat dead things. You could be like

2575
02:05:53,480 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 1: I would never want to do that. They're fucking gross,

2576
02:05:55,080 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 1: the horrible, but you need them. You do need Karens.

2577
02:05:57,720 --> 02:05:59,920
Speaker 1: But when they get to that level where they're just

2578
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 1: completely unstable pieces of ship, then you don't need them anymore,

2579
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:03,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

2580
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, look to close on our rage outs crash outs here.

2581
02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:09,160
Speaker 2: There's obviously those Instagram TikTok trends where kids run into

2582
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 2: stores and cause mayhem and end up being assholes, and

2583
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:15,080
Speaker 2: I usually don't approve of it, but this one made

2584
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 2: me laugh.

2585
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't get to fuck this. Mother's damn for

2586
02:06:18,400 --> 02:06:18,800
Speaker 10: to the bar.

2587
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm not giving you nothing.

2588
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing a pie home.

2589
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,040
Speaker 10: Get the fuck out of here, right, pull the cops. Yeah,

2590
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 10: get out here, Bring your fucking bombs down here, tell

2591
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 10: them the.

2592
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: Scream and be like that in my fucking restaurant. Mind,

2593
02:06:39,200 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: Get the fuck out here. That's your fucking calm down.

2594
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:42,040
Speaker 1: Mister clean.

2595
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Lou Devella, chill out for a second.

2596
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 1: All right, come on, I mean these got I mean

2597
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:52,120
Speaker 1: these people just didn't. You gotta and you gotta fuck

2598
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:54,640
Speaker 1: with people who deserve to be fuck with random restaurant

2599
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:55,760
Speaker 1: owners or not those people.

2600
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,560
Speaker 2: Well, somebody left with somebody's a bola hair and it

2601
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:00,240
Speaker 2: gave us our t shirt of the week. Do you

2602
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 2: approve of this?

2603
02:07:04,560 --> 02:07:04,840
Speaker 1: Wow?

2604
02:07:06,040 --> 02:07:08,480
Speaker 2: Are you buying what she's selling? Luke?

2605
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: Not exactly my type, but I'm curious.

2606
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we've got our tattoo of the week.

2607
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 2: Please rate it, Luke.

2608
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Wow, that is a negative nine thousand, eight

2609
02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 1: and twenty three. That is really bad.

2610
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 2: Boy, this this is a bad, bad batch of shit.

2611
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 2: Here nothing, nothing's really working a little dark. Let's cut

2612
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 2: our KOs of the week. Let's hit the taekwondo game here,

2613
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:44,360
Speaker 2: match boom.

2614
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,600
Speaker 1: That will, dude. I'll say you what, in taekwondo, every

2615
02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 1: once in a while you get some i mean quite

2616
02:07:50,720 --> 02:07:52,560
Speaker 1: literally acrobatic knockouts.

2617
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:55,480
Speaker 2: Right, Damn, that was a good one. Watch this next one.

2618
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:56,360
Speaker 2: Watch the guy on the left.

2619
02:07:59,480 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I'm saying. Maybe this is a karate

2620
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it's rolling thunder Boh.

2621
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 2: That is so good the tim all right, we got

2622
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,480
Speaker 2: one more ko the week. It comes from this foreign bar.

2623
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: Damn that you gotta get that guy in an action movie.

2624
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 2: Seriously, that was wow. That guy had it coming to it.

2625
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 2: You could tell wow. All right, Uh, Luke, it wouldn't

2626
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 2: be h y Sts without a visit from Celne the

2627
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:43,000
Speaker 2: cake lady.

2628
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, eat that dog food, you absolute demon.

2629
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:49,879
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I bet it tastes delicious.

2630
02:08:51,000 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 2: Is a cake or not? Luke turns out right, Yeah,

2631
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:53,760
Speaker 2: here comes the.

2632
02:08:53,880 --> 02:08:56,960
Speaker 1: Why don't you cut the cat up to demonic force?

2633
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,480
Speaker 1: And oh there's the coffee maker, which of course is

2634
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: not real plastic eating wench. Yeah, and she looks so yeah, yeah,

2635
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:05,960
Speaker 1: just I do I have one time I saw a

2636
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: homeless man.

2637
02:09:07,040 --> 02:09:15,600
Speaker 2: Oh eating the bag. She has to eat weird shit.

2638
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:18,000
Speaker 1: You can just eat your clothes.

2639
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,560
Speaker 2: There's only one place for her to go next, Luke,

2640
02:09:23,600 --> 02:09:24,960
Speaker 2: and that's porn obviously.

2641
02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:28,680
Speaker 1: All right, this is just gonna start gobbling on genitalia.

2642
02:09:28,720 --> 02:09:31,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be unbelievable. Dude, Why can't you just eat

2643
02:09:31,600 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: normal ship? Okay, all right, I don't know.

2644
02:09:34,120 --> 02:09:35,880
Speaker 2: Luke will close with this. Would you drink this?

2645
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:47,080
Speaker 1: Hey? Yeah, I'd rather get fucked to death by an

2646
02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:47,960
Speaker 1: aid dickt Walras.

2647
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,120
Speaker 2: All right, that may have been the worst ship we've

2648
02:09:50,160 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 2: ever seen. I hope you saw it.

2649
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:52,360
Speaker 1: That was awful.

2650
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,440
Speaker 2: What a bad batch. They can't all win, Luke, Sorry.

2651
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 1: They can't all They can't all win. That's how life goes.

2652
02:09:58,760 --> 02:10:01,040
Speaker 2: We'll be back Friday. That thank you for tuning in today.

2653
02:10:01,080 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 2: It will be pregame preview UFC three twenty brought to

2654
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 2: you by Quervo with our good friend Jed Meshu number two.

2655
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:12,840
Speaker 2: Check it out Friday, eleven am Eastern. Please follow the

2656
02:10:12,920 --> 02:10:16,839
Speaker 2: show like, subscribe on social media. Check out our extended

2657
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,920
Speaker 2: YouTube channels. Heck, you spent most of this episode checking

2658
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:22,400
Speaker 2: out my extended YouTube channel, so thank you very much

2659
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 2: for that one.

2660
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we already did.

2661
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 2: There's no reason to go there anymore. Also, it's merch

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Speaker 2: time for the final time this September. The exclusives Black Liver, Society,

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Speaker 2: Cracker Barrel, the signed TMNT poster. Get it before it's gone,

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Speaker 2: because it ain't coming back. Also, get ready for our

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Speaker 2: October exclusives and check out our evergreen content available for purchase.

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2667
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Speaker 2: what do you got anything?

2668
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:56,680
Speaker 5: I got a UFC three twenty bet breakdown coming out tomorrow.

2669
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 5: I'm doing Jed's podcast this week, No Bets Bard, so

2670
02:10:59,560 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 5: check that out. UH prop Quiz dropping Friday, watch along Saturday.

2671
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:04,880
Speaker 5: You know the drill, Baby, Let's go he lt.

2672
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:07,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw, but I took home

2673
02:11:07,800 --> 02:11:11,360
Speaker 2: the uh the one Honda from from winning the prop

2674
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 2: Quiz tournament.

2675
02:11:12,240 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: You won the whole thing.

2676
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 2: Upset City against you and Mike Kec and then I

2677
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 2: took Shaquille Maljudi to the to the woodshed, smoked him.

2678
02:11:21,040 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't even close, It really wasn't.

2679
02:11:23,760 --> 02:11:26,720
Speaker 5: There was a conspiracy theory, Luke, that you spoiled it

2680
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:29,600
Speaker 5: on last episode of m K because you called BC

2681
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,160
Speaker 5: the prop Quiz champion and everyone.

2682
02:11:32,040 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 1: Though I hadn't told you exactly tell you there's no

2683
02:11:36,440 --> 02:11:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't care enough to know what advanced I figured.

2684
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:42,040
Speaker 5: I said, I was trying to tell everys not me.

2685
02:11:42,120 --> 02:11:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm happy for BC, and actually I do think Longland

2686
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:46,560
Speaker 1: loops onto something, but like I have things to do,

2687
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not in any way paying attention to that. That's funny.

2688
02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:50,560
Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

2689
02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: That's great, dude, everything's coming up, Campbell.

2690
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 2: Look at this, brother, I'm on I'm on a heater

2691
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, so let's go. Let's go. LT Do

2692
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 2: you want to all the people off to close the show?

2693
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:03,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll probably be putting a gun in my mouth

2694
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:14,200
Speaker 1: after today's episode. I'm teasing. I'm teasing Friday. As you mentioned,

2695
02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:18,200
Speaker 1: we have pregame. I'm gonna race back home as fast

2696
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:19,440
Speaker 1: as it can. I look this up. You see. I

2697
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:23,760
Speaker 1: think the prelim card for PFL is eleven. I think

2698
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:26,040
Speaker 1: the main is a little bit later. Those are like

2699
02:12:26,160 --> 02:12:28,160
Speaker 1: two or I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

2700
02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:31,160
Speaker 2: Well, now you know you tend to know things.

2701
02:12:31,320 --> 02:12:33,920
Speaker 5: So I think they have it listed as just one card.

2702
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 5: They don't have like prelims, and the one card starts

2703
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 5: at noon, so I think Luke's right like the main

2704
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 5: will be a little later in the Okay.

2705
02:12:40,320 --> 02:12:42,200
Speaker 1: So my point is I will probably do a post

2706
02:12:42,240 --> 02:12:46,320
Speaker 1: fight show both for USBAN two as well as of

2707
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,440
Speaker 1: course I'll watch along on a post fight show for Saturdays.

2708
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:50,280
Speaker 1: UFC three twenty should be a lot of.

2709
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:52,360
Speaker 2: Fun, good stuff. Check it out there. What do we

2710
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:53,960
Speaker 2: call your channel? Luke Thomas dot.

2711
02:12:53,840 --> 02:12:57,320
Speaker 1: Com, just just YouTube dot com, slash Luke Thomas. That's it.

2712
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:00,480
Speaker 2: There, it is there, it is check it out. Thank

2713
02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:03,080
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us this Monday. Have a

2714
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:05,760
Speaker 2: great week. It is fight week UFC three twenty. Let's

2715
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:07,480
Speaker 2: get fired up. Should be a good one, very good,

2716
02:13:07,880 --> 02:13:10,800
Speaker 2: very good main card this weekend, so check all that out,

2717
02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,800
Speaker 2: check out our preview on Friday, and until then, take

2718
02:13:13,840 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 2: care of yourselves. We are out of here.