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Speaker 1: welcome in the weeks go by so fast. Here we

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Speaker 1: are again another beautiful Fox Football Sunday. Here from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Studios. I'm located in the Greater Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles area. Greg on the East coast, as we sync

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Speaker 1: up once again another early game company of this time

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Speaker 1: from jolly old England. Plenty on that as the Vikings

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Speaker 1: and Browns get to it. We had a thriller on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. So much there. Get your hydration situation going

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Speaker 1: early because we got a long day of football ahead.

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Speaker 1: Now you find me over at Swollen don't find my colleague.

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Speaker 1: My partner here, Greg Cosell at Greg co cell in

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Speaker 1: the Twitter verse. Forty six years NFL films the NFL

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Speaker 1: Matchup Show and joined Colin cole cow Heard each week

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Speaker 1: for what might be the best fifteen minutes outside of

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Speaker 1: this two hours. You may get Greg, what's going on? Greg?

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Speaker 2: How you doing well?

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Speaker 1: Push myself down.

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Speaker 2: I gotta give colleague.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: I love being with Colin every week. It's so much fun.

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Speaker 1: See all right, let's draw it up. What do you see? No,

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Speaker 1: it's wow, another another week with us already and so

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Speaker 1: many storylines, and then we get into uh, well the

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Speaker 1: pesky world of the byes. Uh and week five byes.

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Speaker 1: I'm always, you know, kind of kind of shrugged the shoulders,

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Speaker 1: going all right, too early? When do you need it?

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Speaker 1: When do you need that buye? I would argue most

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Speaker 1: NFL players would say they need it maybe three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks from now. But for some coaches, perhaps they

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Speaker 1: need the uh hit the emergency break now to figure

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Speaker 1: out what they're doing. I'm looking at green Bay and

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Speaker 1: their defense. Uh, but we got Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Chicago, and

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Speaker 1: green Bay on the bye taking that early sabbatical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, you know teams like Atlanta, Well, I

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Speaker 2: guess green Bay played the tie, which was a very

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Speaker 2: coming off a win. You know. It's funny. I spoke

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Speaker 2: And I can I can appreciate that because Mike, you

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Speaker 1: Well, I'd just say you take that home with you

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Speaker 1: for the I mean, you got a little extra time,

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Speaker 1: he was like, hey, past the green beats, what happened

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Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you probably don't want to go to

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Speaker 3: case of the packers, like you could say, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: Michael Parson's made a big play at the end of

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Speaker 1: all the same, but not exactly the juggernaut that came

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Speaker 2: You know what I always feel, Mike, And maybe it's

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Speaker 2: because of what I do. You know, I've been watching

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Speaker 2: to me, those things should be separate.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you in theory, And that's where

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely yeah, that that just has to be pushed

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Speaker 2: Exactly exactly?

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Speaker 1: He gets all that. All right, let's hit the rewind button.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to Thursday night. Not the longest of passes,

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Speaker 1: As you can tell, the forty nine Ers radio networking

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Speaker 1: the by the rams through it Greg, But for mac Jones,

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Speaker 2: Well, there's so much to unpack with that game, first

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's well more than that, believe me the

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Speaker 2: Every route in that system is choreographed with footwork and eyes. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the most part, with very few exceptions, quarterbacks play well

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Speaker 2: think further, Mike, you know, think of it this way.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to talk about quarterbacks and backups in

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Speaker 2: More often than not, it's about the system that they

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Speaker 2: when I look at Mac Jones, you know, to me,

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Speaker 2: he played well. Obviously I'm not going to sit here

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Speaker 2: and say didn't play well, but it looked so timing based,

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Speaker 2: it looked really nice. But that's the way most quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Clean and fast. Yeah, Gate, and before you knew it,

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Speaker 1: it was a big lead, seventeen to seven and half

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Speaker 1: the rams Matthew Stafford, all these superlatives for him, but

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Speaker 1: You're getting thirty touches out of this game. Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 1: back to mac Jones when folks got excited about him

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Speaker 1: a nice bonus. But then we get into everybody's favorite topic.

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Speaker 1: And I know this is a hot button because if

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Speaker 1: Brock Purty. So what's the gap in the way they

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Speaker 2: Perty is going to be the starter? See to me,

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Speaker 2: that's not really a conversation. I mean, you know, and

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Speaker 2: Purty a better athlete, but stylistically and how they play

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Speaker 2: early on a Sunday morning. You know that never hurts.

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Speaker 1: No, that's just stated as soon as you get going right, Oh,

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Speaker 1: of course, and you can get into it the live

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Speaker 1: live tracks, I mean, come on, wow live.

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Speaker 2: I saw them live and they played for about three

436
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Speaker 2: and a half four hours. Getting your back when I

437
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Speaker 2: was a young man, Mike, that was back a long

438
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Speaker 2: time ago.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you know what, it's all. It's all in your

440
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Speaker 1: mind though, because it brings you right back to that space, right.

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Speaker 2: I still listen to them all the time, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just going back in. Like my daughters

443
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Speaker 1: and I we we took a day on Friday, a

444
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Speaker 1: rare off day during a football season for me. They

445
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Speaker 1: happen to have a thing where their their schedules, uh

446
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Speaker 1: converged for an off day, and we talked about yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll go with you, and then we just talked about

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Speaker 1: concerts that we've been to and whatever. As we're standing

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Speaker 1: in line, you know, for the next Disney ride, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: remember we saw that? And then we're playing these games, right,

451
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Speaker 1: you play this game it's called you know, heads Up,

452
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Speaker 1: and you take your phone and someone's got it out

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Speaker 1: of their forehead and then you try to guess, you

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Speaker 1: know that what what people the clues they're giving you,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it's music based the categories they

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Speaker 1: were taking. Uh. And then immediately it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you remember that song and now you're singing along, and

458
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Speaker 1: you get some other family starts singing along. The other

459
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Speaker 1: folks pull up their video opportunities to mock you. But

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Speaker 1: like all of that to say that, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: that communal experience and no question at the concerts is

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. Exactly likewise our sporting world, with

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Speaker 1: the NFL continuing the expansion of international games, we get

464
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Speaker 1: to see another one today, back to back weeks for

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings without Kelly on the front lines for

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Speaker 1: them this week as they take on well the Cleveland Browns,

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth rookie quarterback to start a game for them

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Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety nine. They are own twelve, but Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 1: you're the next man up. Miles Garrett already saying the

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Speaker 1: offense seems like it's his. What are we expecting today

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Speaker 1: from from against Flora's in this defense? How would you

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Speaker 1: attack it?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a very difficult defense to play against, regardless

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Speaker 2: of who the quarterback is because Flores is a master

475
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Speaker 2: of just lining people up at the line of scrimmage,

476
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Speaker 2: six seven players. You don't know who's coming, who's dropping.

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Speaker 2: He'll have a high blitz percentage, but he'll also have

478
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Speaker 2: a high percentage of rushing three. He shows you a

479
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Speaker 2: lot of different looks. One thing they don't do very

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Speaker 2: much of those play man coverage, so it's a lot

481
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Speaker 2: of zone coverage behind it. So they are a difficult

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Speaker 2: defense to play against. But the thing with Dylan Gabriel,

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Speaker 2: you know, Kevin Stefanski really liked him coming out of college,

484
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Speaker 2: and and I know a lot of people probably think

485
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Speaker 2: that's crazy, but coaches think in terms of scheme adaptability.

486
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Speaker 2: That's the way NFL coaches think. They think about Okay,

487
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Speaker 2: I have a scheme. This is what I believe in.

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Speaker 2: Coaches coach what they know by the way, they don't

489
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Speaker 2: coach what they don't know. They coach what they know,

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Speaker 2: and they coach what they feel comfortable with. And Kevin

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Speaker 2: Stefanski sees Dylan Gabriel when his offense works the way

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Speaker 2: he wants it to work, as a quarterback that can

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Speaker 2: run it. It's a lot of play action. It's a

494
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Speaker 2: lot of quick timing, quick rhythm throws, get the ball out,

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Speaker 2: and that's what Dylan Gabriel ultimately is. Now. I don't

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Speaker 2: know whether he's going to be good or bad. That's

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Speaker 2: not my point. I'm talking stylistically. This is how he

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Speaker 2: has to play the game if he's to have any

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Speaker 2: kind of success in the NFL, And in Kevin Stefanski's offense,

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Speaker 2: that's what he sees. So it's just a very difficult

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Speaker 2: opening game for him, opening defense, for him to have

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Speaker 2: to play against a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of young guys on that offense. Rolling up today,

504
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Speaker 1: Judkins in the backfield the last couple of weeks has

505
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Speaker 1: a quited himself looking pretty goodly right Yeah, screen Bay

506
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Speaker 1: and Detroit also as a receiver out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: which is huge.

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Speaker 2: Look what they here's what they anticipated, you know, they

509
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Speaker 2: anticipated that they'd have a really solid run game. They

510
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Speaker 2: drafted Jenkins in the second round and Dylan Samson from

511
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Speaker 2: Tennessee and I think the fourth or fifth round. And

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Speaker 2: the anticipation was that Judkins would be the feature back

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Speaker 2: because he's the kind of back that you could give

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Speaker 2: it to eighteen to twenty times a game, and that

515
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Speaker 2: Samson would be the nice compliment. That's what they hope

516
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Speaker 2: their offense would look like. Now, obviously it hasn't quite

517
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Speaker 2: worked out that way yet, we'll see what happens going forward.

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Speaker 1: Now you add the speed, Sir Isaiah Bond, he steps

519
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Speaker 1: into a more prominent role with Tillman going to the

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Speaker 1: injured reserve again to solve things there. Yeah, a tough

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Speaker 1: loss for them in their receiving tam Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And on the other side, it's a fascinating you know,

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz has played well in two games, by the way,

524
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Speaker 2: and the one thing that's really stood out, Mike, and

525
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Speaker 2: these are the kinds of things I always do, you

526
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Speaker 2: know watching tape, is you know they eighteen of his

527
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Speaker 2: fifty three dropbacks last week against Pittsburgh came out of

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Speaker 2: empty formations. And that's clearly they're doing that because of

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz. Because when McCarthy played up to the point

530
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Speaker 2: he got hurt. They only had one empty formation, So

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Speaker 2: clearly this is something where Kevin O'Connell and Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: they feel comfortable they want him in empty sets. Now.

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Speaker 2: The number one thing, of course, when you play Cleveland

534
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Speaker 2: is they've got a really good d line and a

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Speaker 2: really good pass rush. And Wentz does have a tendency

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Speaker 2: to hold onto the ball. He's he's always been kind

537
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Speaker 2: of leary to throw check downs just to get the

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Speaker 2: ball out of his hand. So he's going to have

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Speaker 2: to do that in this game because otherwise you could

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Speaker 2: see a game because he does get sacked a good amount,

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Speaker 2: you could you know, you don't want to get sacked seven, eight,

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Speaker 2: nine times in this game. And Wentz has always shown

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Speaker 2: a little bit of a propensity for that.

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Speaker 1: Thirty out of forty six last week three fifty two

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Speaker 1: and two, a good chunk coming on that that played

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Speaker 1: to Jordan Addison where fil said he must not have

547
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Speaker 1: done much cardio during his Peyton Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson ran him down, and I know Wilson ran

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Speaker 2: a four four forty at the combine, but still, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're Jordan Andison, you can't let that happen.

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Speaker 1: We're we're watching that live going, how's he not walking

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Speaker 1: into the endside four for one fourteen in that one,

553
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Speaker 1: Jefferson ten for one, twenty six. Having his best friend

554
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Speaker 1: Addison back on the other side certainly helped, no question

555
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Speaker 1: about a ten receptions, eleven targets. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: he did absorb six sacks in that game for a

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Speaker 1: total of forty eight yards. You're giving up half a

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Speaker 1: football field. Odd.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And the Steelers were very aggressive with pressure in

560
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Speaker 2: that game, and they sacked him four times when they

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Speaker 2: did rush five or more. So you know, again, that

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Speaker 2: gets back to my point. Carson Wentz has always had

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Speaker 2: a tendency to take a lot of sacks.

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Speaker 1: Expecting to see more of the same from that Cleveland front,

565
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Speaker 1: no question about it. Miles Garrett licking his chops. With

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Speaker 1: we do here at Fox Sports Radio, so much music,

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577
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578
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Speaker 1: led Zeppelin channels and everything else you got. Now let's

579
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Speaker 1: go to one more team here, but before we trip

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Speaker 1: the light fantastic into a little bit of a break

581
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Speaker 1: when we look at the Baltimore Ravens in a world

582
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Speaker 1: of hurt literally and figuratively. Right now, it joked a bit,

583
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Speaker 1: and look it's not no, never joke about injuries in

584
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Speaker 1: their specificity, but as a whole of Wow, there's just

585
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Speaker 1: something a cloud hanging over that training room now, Lamar

586
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Speaker 1: Jackson the latest, Ronnie Stanley's out. Half your defense will

587
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Speaker 1: be missing. No Humphrey, no Roquan Smith. I'm met of

588
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Speaker 1: week eight, gone for the year. Yeah, So I mean

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Speaker 1: you go all the way through. It is an absolute

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Speaker 1: mash unit. Now Cooper Rush has to try to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to navigate forward, and Derrick Henry has not

592
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Speaker 1: been the same since week one. Right, big explosives there

593
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Speaker 1: run game has been bogged down for several weeks, trying

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Speaker 1: to find the light at the end of the tunnel

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Speaker 1: for him here. Greg, Yeah, and I.

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Speaker 2: Mean you would think, because obviously the offense has to

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Speaker 2: look different for obvious reasons, that Derrick Henry would need

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Speaker 2: to be the foundation, and I think they'll go that

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Speaker 2: route and try to lean on him. But defensively, the

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Speaker 2: other thing is when you're playing with the backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: and Cooper Rush has had success in the league. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's not they're not putting out a guy that's never played,

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Speaker 2: but still you'd like to be able to lean somewhat

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Speaker 2: on your defense, Mike, and they've their defense. The injuries

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Speaker 2: have killed them. They've been totally unable to rush the

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Speaker 2: quarterback this year. I don't have the number right in

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Speaker 2: front of me, but I think they have four sacks

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Speaker 2: and four games they've not really exerted any pressure on

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Speaker 2: opposing quarterbacks. Now they're heard on the back end. Rokwan

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Speaker 2: Smith is out. It's just it they can't rely on

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Speaker 2: their defense to be kind of a guiding force here

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Speaker 2: to keep games close. So it'll be interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is a big game. The loser of

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Speaker 2: this game is going to be one and four, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I think that would surprise a lot of

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Speaker 2: people going into the season that Houston or Baltimore would

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Speaker 2: be one and four after five weeks. But this is

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Speaker 2: really a big game for both teams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have grand hopes coming in for Houston.

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Speaker 1: For overall, the offensive line, which wasn't good last year,

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Speaker 1: lost a couple more parts and we're still trying to

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Speaker 1: figure out. I mean, what do you see on tape

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Speaker 1: with CJS, because that's one of the big talk giving points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, And this almost goes back to our

625
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Speaker 2: first conversation about the Kyle Shanahan system because his rookie

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Speaker 2: year in the league was Bobby Slowick was the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: Of course they fired him, you know, midway through the

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Speaker 2: second year, but Slowick came from the Shanahan school. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and again that system really helps quarterbacks. Now they're asking

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Speaker 2: him to run. I think it's kind of a mix

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Speaker 2: of a number of things, and he looks very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: He looks stiff in the pocket. He doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: he's seeing it as clearly. Now again you can always

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Speaker 2: say that, hey, the offensive line isn't as good. They're

635
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Speaker 2: playing with young receivers. Last year, Nico Collins missed. I

636
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Speaker 2: don't know, what's seven eight weeks. They don't have a

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Speaker 2: you know, Joe Mixon is out there. They're hoping what

638
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Speaker 2: he Marx, who looked very good last week against Tennessee,

639
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Speaker 2: can sort of become a little bit more of a

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Speaker 2: feature guy because you know, Nick Chubb unfortunately, we don't

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Speaker 2: know what he is at this point in his career

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Speaker 2: due to the injuries. Of course, not due to to

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Speaker 2: you know, he was a great, great runner before that

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Speaker 2: that really tragic injury. But Stroud just doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: a comfortable player right now. And you know, it's just

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Speaker 2: again it's it's so hard for me to know exactly

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Speaker 2: what they're asking him to do. It seems like they're

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Speaker 2: asking him to do a lot more before the snap

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Speaker 2: of the ball. You know. One of the things about

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Speaker 2: the Kyle Shanahan offense is the quarterback does not control

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Speaker 2: or or call the protections. Uh and and the center does.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, can the quarterback override it at times if

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Speaker 2: he sees something, yes he can, But for the most part,

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Speaker 2: they don't deal with that. So I think they're trying

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Speaker 2: to give Stroud more on his plate, and it just

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Speaker 2: it's it's he's uncomfortable, you know. And he's still a

657
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Speaker 2: beautiful thrower of the football, but right now he just

658
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Speaker 2: doesn't seem like things are it's just not right for

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Speaker 2: him right now.

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Speaker 1: See if they get a little bit of balance in

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Speaker 1: the four in the in the force, says, I try

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Speaker 1: to go full Star Wars on you there with Woody

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Speaker 1: Mark's having a great game last week, maybe a little

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Speaker 1: more balance and operation and maybe just the right opponent

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Speaker 1: at the right time with the reeling Ravens defense. The

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Speaker 1: curiosity for for Baltimore as well. They've had Keaton Mitchell

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Speaker 1: as a healthy scratch for the last couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: wondering if he.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be ready to go this week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I think. I read he's going to go

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Speaker 2: this week. So and he's got a ton of juice, so,

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Speaker 2: you know, because right now with obviously with Cooper Rush,

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Speaker 2: they don't have Lamar's ability to create explosive plays with

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Speaker 2: his legs, so now they're looking for other ways to

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Speaker 2: create explosive plays. And we know for sure that Mitchell

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Speaker 2: can run.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the rumor rumor mill kind of things

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Speaker 1: was we've got a month until the trade deadline as

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Speaker 1: to whether Keaton Mitchell was one of those guys being

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Speaker 1: held out for good as a guy to be dealt

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Speaker 1: because we see a number of contenders who are are

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Speaker 1: deficient in the running back room. So perhaps that's in

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Speaker 1: the offing the break glass in case of emergency down

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Speaker 1: the line, now the opponent. Later on, we got a

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game that is interesting in a million ways.

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Speaker 1: One team was left for dead and there's a stat

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Speaker 1: line that we have to read that might be the

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Speaker 1: worst stat line on paper, but the best thing you

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Speaker 1: can actually ask for. What are we talking about? We'll

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Speaker 1: tell you next. He's great co sale on Mike Carbon

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Football Sunday here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen,

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosel with you counting down. We got about forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes to kickoff Minnesota and Cleveland. Get those fantasy

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Speaker 1: lineups changed as you will, as you need to remembering

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Speaker 1: that we've got Dylan Gabriel making his first start. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to watch that start to unfold as we go.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all being with us. However, you're listening all the

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Speaker 1: all of those fun things. Whatever you got planned, you

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Speaker 1: keep you apprized of the good, the bad, the ugly

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Speaker 1: of NFL Week five, here with your friends at Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. So, Greg, I want to go back to

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Speaker 1: a game. We talk about the raven side of things.

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Speaker 1: So sure they're part of this equation. But the greatest

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Speaker 1: stat line from last week four carries five yards?

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Speaker 2: Who was it?

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Speaker 1: Let's hear it up on the football quickly? Is Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes under center?

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Speaker 2: Worthy's in the backfield. They're going to roll to the

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Speaker 2: right side, and I'm a home staff for the kids.

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Speaker 4: Touchdown Kansas City Marquise Brown Hollywood goes all the way

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Speaker 4: across the formation on fourth and one for a fifteen

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Speaker 4: yard touchdown pass. Mahomes has four GD passes into the

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Speaker 4: land of the sweet Nectar.

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Speaker 1: There's the the.

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Speaker 2: Sweet nectar. I got it great.

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Speaker 1: Try to work that into your conversations later undergrad a

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Speaker 1: Cheez Radio network on the call thirty seven twenty year Final,

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Speaker 1: a blowout scenario for the Chiefs, who talked about the

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Speaker 1: Ravens defense and the walking wounded there. But I love

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Speaker 1: the four carries five yards because before that game last week,

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Speaker 1: you and I were talking about Patrick Mahomes and how

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Speaker 1: much the rushing told was concerning. Well, he didn't need

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Speaker 1: to hear four touchdown passes Hollywood Brown. But the return

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Speaker 1: of Xavier Worthy perhaps opening things up is at the

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Speaker 1: start of a get right with Jacksonville on the slate

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Speaker 1: for Monday night.

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Speaker 2: Well, the way I'd answer that is what if we

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Speaker 2: said about the Chiefs, oh, the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Don't write them off, and if you're gonna kill him,

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Speaker 1: make sure they're dead.

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Speaker 2: That they've also that they've had one of the slowest

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Speaker 2: receiving corps in the league. Right, That's what we've said

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Speaker 2: the last couple of years. All of a sudden, now

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Speaker 2: they may have the fastest because now that Worthy's back,

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Speaker 2: Taekwon Thornton can run. I remember doing his tape coming

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Speaker 2: out a baler. He was a below four to four.

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Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown can still run all of a sudden, they've

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Speaker 2: got three guys that can run, and they're starting to

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Speaker 2: push the ball down the field. Again, that's what you

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Speaker 2: see on tape. They're starting to throw the ball down

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Speaker 2: the field. And that's a big deal because it doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily matter how many are complete. It just changes the

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Speaker 2: way defenses have to play. So, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: they've got a lot of speed at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if that has an impact too on Travis Kelcey,

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Speaker 2: because now all of a sudden, maybe the middle of

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Speaker 2: the field opens up a little more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Once Rashie Rice returned from his suspension in two

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Speaker 1: more weeks, that suddenly you can deploy and mix and

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Speaker 1: match quite a bit. So perhaps more from the run

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Speaker 1: game that isn't on Patrick Mahomes Legs as well.

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Speaker 2: Age Shark Smith is another name to keep in mind,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Mike Grashard Smith. He's a seventh round

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Speaker 2: rookie out of SMU who initially went to college as

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver I think at the University of Miami,

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Speaker 2: but then at SMU they made him a running back

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Speaker 2: and last year he gained over fourteen hundred yards. He's

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Speaker 2: a great receiver. For he's another guy that runs under

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Speaker 2: four to four, and you're going to see more of

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Speaker 2: him as the season progresses. So now all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you're dealing with the team that has track speed,

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Speaker 2: whereas for the last couple of years they were slow.

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Speaker 1: You're just curious whenever whenever I start seeing Matt n

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Speaker 1: Aggie's name show up in articles and stuff. But the

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Speaker 1: Bears fan and me has my flashback moments, some great

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Speaker 1: highs and some other But I mean that's the life

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Speaker 1: of a Bears fan. There's you know, you get those

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Speaker 1: moments and they're fleeting, but you go through. But yeah, certainly,

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Speaker 1: Bishard Smith a guy I tried to put him on

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Speaker 1: the radar before the season, just saying, hey, perhaps we're

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Speaker 1: finally done with some of the experiments and the histories

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Speaker 1: of some of these other running backs because we've that

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Speaker 1: we've seen in Chief's Kingdom in the past. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: perhaps those days are ahead. So there's your Greg Cosel.

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Speaker 1: He gave you a fantasy in Ninja right here at

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Speaker 1: the end of this hour. But for Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: for Travis Kelsey right a lot being hey, I haven't

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Speaker 1: had a chance to listen to it in full yet

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's new albums out, so they at least have

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Speaker 1: that behind them now, Greg and they can move forward.

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Speaker 1: But opening up the middle of the field where he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to, you know, fight for every every year

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Speaker 1: certainly should help. And working him scraping across defenses, and

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes will be licking his.

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Speaker 2: Chops, no question. We'll see how it goes. But that

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Speaker 2: speed is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I was making my bad Halloween analogies. I mean,

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Speaker 1: since we're into uh, you know, the the month of

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Speaker 1: October and the decorations.

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Speaker 2: And they're all up already. I know, people get started

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Speaker 2: early with the decorations, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean look because you're gonna be buying

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Speaker 1: a Christmas tree here in about three weeks, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's an accelerated timeline.

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Speaker 2: It always is, it always is, right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so the idea of you know, the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: were dead, I was told at one in three. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're like all of the the horror movie Villa. You

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Speaker 1: got to make sure because otherwise, if there's money in it,

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Speaker 1: there's a sequel. And for the Chiefs, it looks like

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Speaker 1: we're sequelizing once again, now a team looking for a sequel.

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Speaker 1: This is where we'll start our next next hour. Because

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Speaker 1: winning usually cures everything, Greg, but in Philadelphia, the seeds

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Speaker 1: of malcontent discuss the Yeah, so we will get deeply

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Speaker 1: into the wide receiving core all sorts of uh stuff

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Speaker 1: floating around in the media. We got Bible Versus a

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Speaker 1: reading club that's starting once again at Greg Cosel where

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Speaker 1: you find them on Twitter, find me over at swollen Down.

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Speaker 1: We'll start our two with the Eagles. Next. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome man Hour two Fox

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Speaker 1: Football Sunday half hour for kickoff Cleveland and Minnesota. The

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Speaker 1: pregame pageants Tree going on Dylan Gabriel's first start. Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz on the other side, over under for that one,

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Speaker 1: sitting at a robust thirty six. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: field goal kicking contest, Greg Cosel, or at least that's

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Speaker 1: what they're telling me.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that Minnesota's playing with three new offensive

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Speaker 2: line starters, and I think that's not a good recipe

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Speaker 2: when you're playing the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: No, maybe that's just it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me. I think it's the other way around,

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Speaker 2: playing the Vikings are playing with three new starters, and

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Speaker 2: that's not a good recipe against the Browns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Ryan Kelly now headed to the eye off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: recovery for another concussion.

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Speaker 2: That's two in a three weeks, and it's too many

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Speaker 2: for him in his career unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those are piling up. And it's certainly a guy

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Speaker 1: that we we remember him coming out and what a

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Speaker 1: force he was, you know, and we know what happens

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Speaker 1: to offensive lines whenever centers get hurt. We've seen that

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Speaker 1: through the ess of how things can crumble. I go

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Speaker 1: back to those Dallas squads when when Frederick had to

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Speaker 1: retire and how they had to scrambled to try to

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Speaker 1: cobble together those five guys uh thereafter. So, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: tough stuff for mister Kelly. Wish him well and for

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Speaker 1: that offensive line, well, just a lot of Hey figure

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Speaker 1: out where Miles Garrett is fast at Greg Cozo, where

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Speaker 1: you find it in a Twitter verse, find me over

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Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome. We alluded to it. At the end

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Speaker 1: of last hour. We got Denver and we got Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Ye coming up a little later on today another one

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Speaker 1: where we're expecting the Denver defense to try to make

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Speaker 1: some Hey Patrick, certain he and AJ Brown will lock

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Speaker 1: up a bit here, But for AJ Brown and for

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, the seeds of malcontentedness not seeing the ball

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Speaker 1: with regularity or consistency to be able to be able

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Speaker 1: to make plays, and that spills out no matter how

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00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: many normally winning cures, all at some point guys raise

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Speaker 1: their hand. And we're seeing a lot of that early

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Speaker 1: going here in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, through four games, Jalen Hurts is averaging one

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Speaker 2: hundred and thirty eight passing yards per game. Only the

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Speaker 2: Titans average fewer passing yards. And for those who want

860
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: to say, well, none of this matters because they're four

861
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: and oh, then they don't understand how coaches work and

862
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: what goes on in an NFL building, There is no

863
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: way that they are saying in that building that hey,

864
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: we're good because we're four and oh, that everything is fine.

865
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: I mean, in the second half last week, Hurtz was

866
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: o for eight for no yards. Obviously it's their offense overall,

867
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: by the way, is not very good. Barkley has the

868
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 2: most first down carries of any back in the league.

869
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: Because they are a running football team. He has fifty

870
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 2: first down carries, he's averaging three yards per rush. That

871
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: won't get it done either. I think the thing that's

872
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: not talked about and the tape shows it, Mike, And

873
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: that's what I work on, is the tape. Their old line,

874
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: which has been one of the absolute best for two

875
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: three four years, has not played particularly well this year.

876
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: And that's just the reality of the tape. And as

877
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: they say, the eye in the sky doesn't so right now.

878
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: Their offense is just not very good, and the receivers

879
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 2: are unhappy because their pass game. You know, one thing

880
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: about the pass game and one thing about Jalen Hurts.

881
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: He throws the ball outside the numbers exceptionally well, that's

882
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: what he does at a higher level. And he throws

883
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: the deep ball exceptionally well. But he doesn't throw the

884
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: ball between the numbers well, and in fact, they don't

885
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: ask him to because they know that that's not his strength.

886
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: And in fact, they've got the fewest throws between the

887
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: numbers of any team in the NFL through the first

888
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: four weeks of the season. That's just not how they

889
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: execute the pass game, and so receivers tend to get

890
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: a little upset by that because they don't get as

891
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: many targets.

892
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're looking at aj Brown through four weeks, fourteen

893
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: receptions on twenty eight targets, averaging ten point eight per reception.

894
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: Look at your Bonte Smith just twenty targets to this point.

895
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: To your point, you've got nearly as many targets for

896
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley out of the backfield. That three point one

897
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: yards per carry average certainly not sustaining over them, no,

898
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: because at least if that were robust, you'd say, hey,

899
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: the run game, they're just road grading. Yeah.

900
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: The two things though, that do stand out, and it's

901
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: one reason they are four and oh is they don't

902
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: turn the ball over and they've gotten to the red

903
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: zone eleven times. That's not an exceptionally high number through

904
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: four games relative to the rest of the league, but

905
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: they've scored eleven touchdowns and eleven trips into the red zone.

906
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: So when they do get into the red zone, they're

907
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: scoring touchdowns, and obviously that's a big time positive. But

908
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: as I said, there's no question in their building that

909
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: they think everything is fine just because they're four.

910
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, currently tied for fourth in terms of

911
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: turnover differential at plus four as we enter today's game,

912
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: Greg to that point with Jalen Hurts just six yards

913
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: per pass attempt.

914
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: Yes, and he's got the few was passing first downs

915
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: of any quarterback in the league. So their past game

916
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: is going to have to improve. Now. Obviously they're a

917
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: winning football team. They're Super Bowl champions, They've won a

918
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: lot of games over the last number of years. It's always,

919
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: you know, even how it works when a team wins,

920
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: it's always easy to say, oh, they win, you know,

921
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: and they do win. I mean that's an inarcurable point.

922
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: But much needs to be fixed here.

923
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always the curiosity, right with Yeah, in our

924
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: larger media space, when teams win, it's a well, there's

925
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: no problems like no, no, no, there's there's still warts. Right,

926
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: you can win ugly. The nineteen eighty three White Sox

927
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: before losing in the Alcs to the Orioles. That was

928
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: the mantra. Just a lot of weird come from behind

929
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: wins in improbable fashion. Hell, that was the story of

930
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: the Bears season when Lovey Smith got him to the

931
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. A lot of balls bouncing the right way

932
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: on defense and Devin Hester seemed to have a ring

933
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: around him to keep it.

934
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean blocking. Look, I think most people would probably

935
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: argue that blocking kicks is not really a strategy for winning,

936
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: you know, over the course of a season. It's great

937
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: when you can do it, but it's not really a strategy.

938
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 2: So you know, we'll see. I mean, look, it's it's

939
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: only four games. There's thirteen more to go, so we'll

940
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: see how it plays out. But right now, they're not

941
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: a very good offensive football team.

942
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: And whenever we have players give us that moment of honesty,

943
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: folks get mass. But when they give you platitudes, you

944
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: get mad, Like what do you want?

945
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 2: Right?

946
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: He came around showing his frustration. Yeah, some of it

947
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: might be over the top posting to social media. You

948
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: may not like it. They're human and it's an emotional game.

949
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: So I would want my number one wide receiver to

950
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: be raising his hands saying, yeah, I want the ball more.

951
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: I want to figure this out. In Philadelphia, if you

952
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: don't give an honest answer, I guess what you're gonna

953
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: get called to the carpet for that too.

954
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 2: So well, you know it's it's the the old Mike

955
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: Schmidt Lions. I'm sure you recall, which has been brought

956
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: back recently. It's you know you can. You can experience

957
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 2: the thrill of winning at night and then the agony

958
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: of reading about it the next day.

959
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: You know that is the story of yours, Philadelphia Eagles

960
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 1: through four weeks in this NFL season. Hey, be sure

961
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: to subscribe to the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Search

962
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,759
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963
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,280
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964
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,200
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965
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,440
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966
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,319
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967
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,600
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968
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,080
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969
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: to build, so go out and evangelize word of mouth advertising.

970
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate you. I'll walk coast to coast and give

971
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: you a hug at some points, as you'll allow. But

972
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: as we look at Week five, so many great matchups

973
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: on the board, some really intriguing ones. I want to

974
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: go to Tampa and Seattle. Sure, I've got Sam Donald

975
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: on one side, Baker Mayfield trying to make Hey this

976
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: week without Bucky Irving, How much does his absence change

977
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: their offense.

978
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, he's the big playback. He can give you the

979
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,959
Speaker 2: explosive run plays. So they'll end up with Rshad White,

980
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: who's a very good player, but a different kind of runner,

981
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: a more physical, bigger back, a very good receiver, by

982
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: the way, and I'm sure Sean Tucker will get meaningful snaps.

983
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: He's played for them. He's got a little more juice.

984
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: So we'll see how they do that.

985
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: Ron last year in a couple of spots, Yes.

986
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 2: He did, he did. Yes, So but you know Seattle,

987
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you're on the West coast. I'm not,

988
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: but so on the East coast, Seattle doesn't get talked

989
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: about a lot. But Seattle is a very good football

990
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: team and Donald's playing really well. You know, they brought

991
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: him in. They have Clint Kubiak as their offensive coordinator.

992
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: And Kubiak is sort of from the the you know,

993
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 2: I guess was his dad? Was that his dad, Gary Kubiak?

994
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: But the point is yeah, and then the Shanahan school.

995
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 2: It's sort of from that same coaching tree that believes

996
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: in the quarterback under center, run action, play action, push

997
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: the ball down the field. Donald has been phenomenal throwing

998
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 2: the ball down the field. This year, you know, we've

999
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: reached the point in this league where not a lot

1000
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks really throw it down the field. You know,

1001
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm even talking about ten yards from the line of scrimmage,

1002
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: but Donald on passes thrown in the air more than

1003
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: ten yards from the line of scrimmage, he is twenty

1004
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: seven for thirty six for five hundred and sixty three yards,

1005
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: So that's more than twenty yards per completion. And he

1006
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: did that a year ago in Minnesota, the same thing.

1007
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 2: He was outstanding throwing the ball down the field. And

1008
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: that's a significant part of the way they play offense

1009
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: under Klint Kubiak, and they need a little more from

1010
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: their run game. But they're a good offense, and defensively,

1011
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be missing some guy today,

1012
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: but this defense is very, very good.

1013
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, as we look at they're flying around and certainly

1014
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: McDonald coming into last year, a lot of questions coming

1015
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: into the year, and they get the double digit win total.

1016
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Gino Smith heads off to Las Vegas, so Sam Donald

1017
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: gets the big deal again. One further removed from Jets

1018
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: gets better. There's some kind of mathematical formula that we

1019
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: can apply to that somewhere there. But what intrigued me

1020
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: last week and we'll see if he has a bigger

1021
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: role as well, is a royal hit for that thirty

1022
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: two yard completion and wondering what the plans are and

1023
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: how much of a help he'll be for Jackson Smith

1024
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: and Jigba and Cooper Cupp. Yeah.

1025
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things about the Seahawks this year,

1026
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: which is the league's trending a little bit in this direction,

1027
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 2: but Seattle is kind of at the forefront of it.

1028
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: They are playing at a base personnel, meaning multiple tight

1029
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: ends a very high percentage of the time. So last

1030
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: week only thirty one of their offensive snaps had three

1031
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 2: wide receivers. So they had three tight ends last week

1032
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: that had more than twenty five snaps. Mike that's unheard

1033
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 2: of in the NFL. A J. Barner had fifty seven.

1034
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 2: Now he's a good player. Royo had thirty six, the

1035
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: most he's played this year as a rookie, and Sawbert

1036
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: had twenty six. So they are playing with multiple tight ends.

1037
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 2: That has sort of been their foundation through the first

1038
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: four games of the season. And Arroyo, as you know,

1039
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean He's got a lot of juice to him.

1040
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: It would not surprise me if he continues to be

1041
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: a meaningful part of what they want to get done

1042
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: in the past.

1043
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 1: Game, become one of those bigger targets in the red zone,

1044
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: open things up there for Darnold, curious to see the extension,

1045
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: and for tamp obviously getting god Win back. Still missing

1046
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Mike Evans. We've talked about Himika a Buka and what

1047
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: he's been to this offense thus far. But the Baker

1048
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: Mayfield love fest in this phase of his career certainly warranted.

1049
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: He has been the king of late game. You see

1050
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: three and one right now, completing just fIF his passes.

1051
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: Though. Yeah, he's I mean, he's turned into a very

1052
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: solid NFL quarterback. He's always thrown the ball really well.

1053
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 2: You know, the way he's thrown the ball. He's always

1054
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: been highly respected by other NFL quarterbacks. He throws the

1055
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: ball really, really well. There's a competitiveness to him. Obviously,

1056
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 2: he's been working. You know, he'll work without Evans for

1057
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: a meaningful amount of time here because it's a hamstring

1058
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: a book. Has really been the guy, and you know,

1059
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: missing Irving I think is a big deal for them.

1060
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see. Maybe they'll go more two tight ends.

1061
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 2: Last week against Philly, surprisingly to me, obviously not to

1062
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: them because they chose to do it, but they really

1063
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 2: didn't play much with two tight ends on the field.

1064
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: And they have you know, obviously Kate Atten's a nice

1065
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 2: player and Payne Durham is their second tight end. We'll

1066
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: see what they do this week. They're playing against a

1067
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: very good defense. They're on the road. You know, I

1068
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 2: think this defense will be hard to drop back for

1069
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: five times. I think you're going to need some sense

1070
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: of balance in this game. It'll be too hard for

1071
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: that old line. That's the issue. It's not just Baker,

1072
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 2: it's the old line.

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00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a more limited approach. We talk about Bucky

1074
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Irving being the workhorse averaging just three point three yards

1075
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: per carry on a smaller sample size about a third

1076
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: the carries, or Shot White averaging about four point seven.

1077
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: For all those Buccaneers fans just hoping that he left

1078
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: all those ball security issues in years past as he

1079
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: gets a higher role. But also a guy that to

1080
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: this point eight receptions. Bucky Irving was actually the leading

1081
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 1: reception man for the Bucks through the first four weeks

1082
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: of the season, some big explosive and we always remember

1083
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: that one possession what was at five catches as they

1084
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: had that big comeback on Monday Night Football. All of

1085
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: that say, that's one of the games of the day.

1086
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: As we roll up on week five of your National

1087
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: Football League, now we'll look for an encore performance in

1088
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: a big spot. This is where Brianna's team, the Saints,

1089
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: might be able to make some Hey what am I

1090
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: talking about? We'll make it all make sense as we continue.

1091
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: He's great co sale on Mike carbon This is Fox

1092
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

1093
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1094
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1095
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1096
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 5: listen live. Little call back to our conversation an hour one.

1097
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 5: We've paid tribute to Mac Jones, So here's the return

1098
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: of the Mac. In our musical interludes, we'll let it

1099
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: breathe a second, We nod our heads.

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00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: Mike Harmon, Greg Cosell with you here. It is Fox

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00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Final couple minutes. Get those

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00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: fantasy lineups changed up. If you have any of the

1103
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: Vikings or Browns that you want in your lineup, or

1104
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: if you've made the last minute decision to say no,

1105
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm not touching the London game, well you got to

1106
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: toggle them out. Now. Good time is ticking away. We

1107
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: got a full slate later on. But reminder, we do

1108
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: have four teams on buys, the Steelers, the Bears, my Bears.

1109
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: So I breathe easy today, the Packers and the Falcons

1110
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: as we roll forward. But one of the games that's

1111
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: got a lot of eyes. After a scintillating debut, the

1112
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: New York Football Giants will head to the Big easy

1113
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: and maybe it's time for the Saints. But let's hear

1114
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: a little Jackson dart if we might, what are we

1115
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: gonna get? What are we gonna get? Let's say scataboo

1116
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: the back dark design, run uptimil we go to.

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00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 7: The tank of the fun clicks down Giants.

1118
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 4: Jackson did about a cornerback drop from fifteen yards out

1119
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 4: at his first start, just the.

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Speaker 2: Giants the League.

1121
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: There you go, Giants Radio Network on the call. I

1122
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: had to play the run, Greg because we didn't have

1123
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: a lot of passes to years from here.

1124
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but you know what, I kind of

1125
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: like camp Scataboo when I evaluate him coming out. He's

1126
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: one of those guys that a lot of people don't

1127
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: look at and go, well, there's a feature back. But

1128
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: you know, feature backs come in different ways in this league.

1129
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: I mean, look at someone like Kyrine Williams, who no

1130
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: one thought could do what he has done with the

1131
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: Rams when he came out of Notre Dame. So you know,

1132
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: every back doesn't have to be special. We get caught

1133
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 2: up in well, he can't be a good back unless

1134
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: he's special. You know, We'll see how that plays out.

1135
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: But getting back to Dart, you know they I thought

1136
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 2: Brian Dable did absolutely the right thing with him in

1137
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: that game. They used his legs a ton, They didn't

1138
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,439
Speaker 2: really ask him to throw it a lot. The question

1139
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: going forward, and it's his first start, so this is

1140
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: all we have is his first start. These are what

1141
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: I'm about to say. Is not a comment on his

1142
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: whole career or what might happen this week, you know, obviously,

1143
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: but in this game, which I expected by the way,

1144
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: he was not comfortable in the pocket, too much focus

1145
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: on the pass rush, too much unnecessary movement. He's going

1146
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: to have to become more disciplined in the pocket. And

1147
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 2: the thought when I finished watching him was how important

1148
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: will his legs be as part of his game? You know,

1149
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: because he does have movement ability and he can run.

1150
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: He's not explosive in that sense, but it is a

1151
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 2: meaningful part of his game, and they deployed it quite

1152
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: a bit, and it was a smart thing to do.

1153
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, my man's got to learn to let Scatibo take

1154
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: the pinball bounces though, Yeah, you're not for long. I mean, look,

1155
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: I equated Cam to the Juggernaut character in the Marvel

1156
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Cinematic universe, a guy who wears a metal helmet and

1157
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: runs through walls.

1158
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: Well, that's the way he ran in college too. By

1159
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: the way, he's kind of that determined, downhill urgent, competitive runner,

1160
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: and you know what, he's a sustainer. He may not

1161
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 2: give you a lot of forty yard runs, but you

1162
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: know what, you don't necessarily need that. And by the way,

1163
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: he's a very good receiver, and he's a good blocker

1164
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: because he cares about it.

1165
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's been the beauty of it, right, and whatever

1166
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: you can highlight the blocking thing. We used to try

1167
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: to do that with wide receivers. It's one of the

1168
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: things that made hinz Ward so great. Brandon Marshall, Yeah,

1169
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: they piled up some stats in receptions and receiving yards,

1170
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: but if there was a category to add all those

1171
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: extras for yards gained by teammates based on what they

1172
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: were doing, certainly a win and scat them of being

1173
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: a big part of the receiving game. Think about that

1174
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: guy coming at you downhill with a head of steam

1175
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: off a screen pass. That's that's not good. They got

1176
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: a lot of business decisions being made by corners.

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Speaker 2: And I think Mike he can be the kind of

1178
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: guy that you can give the ball to eighteen to

1179
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: twenty times a game. I think he can be that guy. Obviously,

1180
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: we'll see. He's a very physical runner. He's a competitive runner,

1181
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: he's a contact runner. So we'll see. I mean, I

1182
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: don't want to take one game and say, oh, this

1183
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: was what you know he is. But but you know,

1184
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: when I finished watching his tape in college at Arizona State,

1185
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: I felt really good about him. I just thought he

1186
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: was a good football player.

1187
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: Good spot youths being served. We see this in a

1188
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: number of squads, Like we talked about with Cleveland, the

1189
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: number of rookies that'll play significant snaps for them later on. Today,

1190
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: let's go on the other side of that that equation though,

1191
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't talk a lot about the Saints.

1192
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: They're well, they're not good, but they've got a couple

1193
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: of pieces, and thus far, I think Spencer Rattler's acquitted

1194
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: himself a little better than perhaps the dismissiveness and derisiveness

1195
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: that comes from it, completing two thirds of his passes,

1196
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: five tds against just one pick. You're still looking at

1197
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: at Kamara as is number one in all ways, shapes

1198
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: and formed and trying to get Chris Olave involved. But

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Speaker 1: what do you see from Rattler. Is he a guy

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: that becomes, you know, just the bridge to whatever they

1201
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: can do next year, or is he a guy that

1202
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: has some sustainability?

1203
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: And that's a hard question to answer. They were probably

1204
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: more competitive than people thought last week in Buffalo. Rattler,

1205
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: for the most part, he's has not been the problem.

1206
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, they have four number one draft picks on

1207
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 2: their offensive line, so you know it should be a

1208
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: good group as the season progresses. The shame for Rattlers

1209
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: He's missed two touch downs in each of the last

1210
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: two weeks. I believe that were just clean, clear throws

1211
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: and he just did not throw an accurate ball. He

1212
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 2: missed one last week against Buffalo to Cooks. He threw

1213
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: it way too low. Cooks ran a great route and

1214
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: was wide open. You know, those are just the throws

1215
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: you have to make. But he is a good thrower overall.

1216
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 2: We'll see. I mean, obviously it's not a good football

1217
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 2: team from top to bottom, so it's going to be

1218
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: a tough deal. And for young quarterbacks and those kinds

1219
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 2: of situations, you know, the negative has become magnified because

1220
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 2: they can't compensate for those plays. That's the problem. So

1221
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 2: you know, I think what he's going to have to

1222
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: get better at, which does not surprise me, is I

1223
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: think he's just going to have to get better at

1224
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: where he takes his eyes based on the coverage. Sometimes

1225
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't feel like he sees it the right way.

1226
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have the margins for them, No, they

1227
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: do not. That's the big thing for them as we

1228
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: go forward. But a spot here, we talked about it

1229
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: a bunch. Dan byer Ian Roddy and I on our

1230
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: I Watch a Flex podcast probably gave a lot more

1231
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: to that game than others talking about the potential spots

1232
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: in fantasy play. So you can check that out wherever

1233
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts, the iHeartRadio Network of course. As always,

1234
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: Now as we continue, we're getting ready for kickoff from London,

1235
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: but still plenty of more, plenty more games to get into.

1236
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: The goods, the bads, the highs and lows will do

1237
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: that momentarily, but first let's send it over to the

1238
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: news desk for the first time today, ready to give

1239
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: you some of the early injury updates. And just I

1240
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: mean greatness exudes through the microphone. It's our guy, Isaac Lowencron.

1241
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: What's going on? I love well, I thank you. Good

1242
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: morning Mike and Greg, and we start with some injury news.

1243
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 7: The Detroit Lions this morning downgrading left tackle Taylor Decker

1244
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 7: to doubtful for their game at Cincinnati today due to

1245
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 7: a shoulder injury. It is two point thirty in the

1246
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 7: afternoon in London and moments from now it'll be kickoff

1247
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 7: between the one and three Cleveland Browns and the two

1248
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 7: and two Minnesota Vikings.

1249
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: This morning.

1250
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Speaker 7: Meanwhile, the Marion County, Indiana Prosecutor's office officially charged former

1251
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 7: NFL quarterback and current Fox Sports analyst Mark Sanchez with

1252
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 7: battery resulting in injury, public intoxication, and unlawful entry of

1253
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 7: a motor vehicle for his alleged role in an altercation

1254
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 7: early Saturday morning in Indianapolis. All the Chargers are misdemeanors.

1255
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 7: Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Meres said in a statement, quote

1256
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 7: what began as a disagreement between a thirty eight year

1257
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 7: old former professional athlete and a sixty nine year old

1258
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 7: man should not have escalated into violence or left anyone

1259
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 7: seriously injured.

1260
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: Unquote. In Game one of the American League.

1261
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 7: Division Series on Saturday night, the Detroit Tigers won at

1262
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 7: Seattle in eleven innings, three to two on an RBI

1263
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,959
Speaker 7: single by Zach McKinstry in the top of the eleventh inning.

1264
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 7: And in college football on Saturday night, third ranked Miami

1265
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 7: won at number eighteen Florida State twenty eight to twenty two.

1266
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 7: Hurricane quarterback Carson Beck twenty of twenty seven two hundred

1267
01:03:58,360 --> 01:03:59,959
Speaker 7: forty yards for a touchdown pass.

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01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: There's no interceptions. Mike and Greg, back to you, thanks

1269
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: so much. Ilo at Isaac Low and Crown where you

1270
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: find him there, catch him on the activity later on

1271
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: today's the Voice of Angels City FC as well with

1272
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 1: your Los Angeles Chargers a bit as well. So all

1273
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: good things is well. The Chargers welcome the Commanders and

1274
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels back to the mix later on today, Greg

1275
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, still stinging perhaps a little bit from

1276
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: that loss to the Giants a week ago, but now

1277
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: also go without Joe Alt, who has to go on

1278
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: the shelf after already losing Rashaun Slater.

1279
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's going to have to necessitate

1280
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Speaker 2: a change in the way they play offense, Mike. They've

1281
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: been throwing the ball an awful lot and now with

1282
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: obviously Slaters hasn't played at all this season, but Alt

1283
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: has played well at left tackle, and now he'll be

1284
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: out for a bit, so they're going to be essentially

1285
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: playing with two backup tackles. And surprisingly, this team has

1286
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: been throwing the ball forty plus times on average the

1287
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: first four weeks Amari and Hampton has started to look

1288
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: like a nice young back, and he's a sustaining style

1289
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: of back, So I would expect, because they do have

1290
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: a good defense, I would suspect that they would really

1291
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: lean more on the run game, try to get Hampton,

1292
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: who's a very good grinder. He does have some big playability,

1293
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 2: but he's much more of a physical, tough, grinding runner.

1294
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: I would think they would go that route now that

1295
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 2: they're missing both their tackles.

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Speaker 1: Had those twenty five touches in the win over Denver

1297
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Last week against the Giants

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: a total of seventeen. I think the thing that stands

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Speaker 1: out for me, Greg is that he gives them what

1300
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 1: they thought, maybe the outside world thought they may have

1301
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: lost with Naji Harris going down to injury was the

1302
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: ability to throw out of the backfield, and back to

1303
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: back weeks eleven catches for him in over ninety five yards.

1304
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: So a guy who's becoming a good weapon for Justin

1305
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: Herbert as a safety valve as well.

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Speaker 2: And the bottom line is, look, they signed Nijie Harris,

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01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 2: but they drafted Hampton in the first round, so they knew,

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01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: quite frankly what everybody knows if you just watched Tate

1309
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: Mike that Najie Harris is not good enough to be

1310
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Speaker 2: a number one back. So obviously it's unfortunate that he's

1311
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: out for the season now with the Achilles, but Hampton

1312
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: was going to be the number one back anyway because

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 2: he's simply better than Nagie Harris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, once he figured out the a little bit of

1315
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: the two step blocking scheme that we always talk about

1316
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: with the rookie running backs who haven't had to do

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01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: that in college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's just a better back, so he'll he'll

1319
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 2: be the guy now for sure. Hopefully he can stay healthy.

1320
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 2: He's a very physical runner. But yeah, that's they're gonna

1321
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 2: have to be a little different on offense right now.

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01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, curiosity, the return to Keenan Allen certainly offering some value.

1323
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to you, Lad McConkie fantasy owners. You're you're

1324
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: sad and sullied by the lack of massive targets and

1325
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: opportunity for him. From the Washington side of things with

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01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Daniels return, waiting to see what they can do against

1327
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: this offense. But you know, Marcus Mariota had a few

1328
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: moments these last couple of weeks, certainly, but for Jade

1329
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: and Daniels, a lot of people expecting a big encore

1330
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: to his rookie season. Through two games he had, you know,

1331
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: just a sixty percent completion rate, three touchdowns, clean sheet

1332
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: on the interception side of things. But you know, curious

1333
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: coming off an injury against an aggressive pass front, and.

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I think there's a team that has to figure out

1335
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 2: how to run the ball a little bit because Jadeen

1336
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 2: Daniels can't be your runner. I mean probably instinct he

1337
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: will run at times because that's who he is, but

1338
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: they're going to have to figure out what their run

1339
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: game can really look like. You know, they've got Crosskey Merritt,

1340
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: They've got Chris Rodriguez who's kind of a grinder. They're

1341
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: going to have to develop some kind of meaningful, sustaining

1342
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: run game. You know, we'll see they're offens. You know,

1343
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 2: obviously Mariota came in, didn't do a bad job. That's

1344
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 2: what you want your backup to do to be able

1345
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: to still run your offense. Obviously, they lost last week,

1346
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 2: but it wasn't because Mariota played poorly. So they're gonna

1347
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: have to figure that out. They're playing against a very

1348
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: good you know, the Chargers defenses and talked about a lot.

1349
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 2: Jesse Mintor's done a really really good job. Obviously, everybody

1350
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 2: focuses on Herbert and the offense, but Mintor's done a

1351
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 2: really good job there. He's very good with his pressure schemes.

1352
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 2: They're they're multiple, they're different, they're hard to figure out,

1353
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: and they've got some really good players. Everyone knows Derwin James,

1354
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: but Diane Henley, the linebacker number zero. He is, in

1355
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: my view, one of the best three down linebackers in

1356
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 2: the league, and I'm sure not a lot of people

1357
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 2: know about him.

1358
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 1: Well, we'll continue to evangelize. I will post with his

1359
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 1: photo and make sure that's saying. Greg Cosell sent you

1360
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: at Greg co Sales where you find him in the

1361
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: Twitter's find me over at Swollen Dome. Let's get one

1362
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 1: more game in before we get ready for our final

1363
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: final segment. New England Buffalo Buffalo have you favorite, But

1364
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: we're seeing growth from Drake May and that New England

1365
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: offense thus far. Buffalo certainly tested. We mentioned it before

1366
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: with what New Orleans throwing haymakers at him a week ago,

1367
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: but first year coach with Rabel dare on starting to

1368
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: to find at least a little something coalescing in that

1369
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 1: passing game.

1370
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also they'd love to be able to run

1371
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 2: the ball, which they haven't done in Buffalo. Has really

1372
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: struggled to stop the run through four weeks. But May

1373
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: has been very good in two critical areas Mike that

1374
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: are hard for young players, particularly with a brand new

1375
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 2: coaching staff. He's been very good on third down and

1376
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 2: he's been very good on press against pressure. But one

1377
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: thing that Sean McDermott does extremely well. When I talk

1378
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 2: to offensive coaches around the league, they always bring this

1379
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 2: up about Seawan is he's very good at changing the

1380
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: picture pre snap to post snap. And I'm not saying

1381
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 2: May will or won't struggle with it. You I don't know,

1382
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 2: but that's always tougher for young quarterbacks because they don't

1383
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 2: have a lot of experience with that.

1384
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 1: Bill's currently tied for six plus three in the turnover

1385
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: differential thus far. It's funny, though, they're kind of, at

1386
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 1: least to this point of the season, Greg a little

1387
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: bit of the other side of the coin of what

1388
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about with the Eagles in terms of

1389
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: trying to find your identity right. You're winning games, but

1390
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: there's still certainly plenty of coachable moments.

1391
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: Well they're running, you know, because of Josh Allen, who's

1392
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 2: obviously capable of special any time at any moment. They're

1393
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 2: actually a running football team, Mike. I mean they run

1394
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: the ball. That's how they stabilize their offense. And people

1395
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 2: probably don't think about that because of Josh Allen, but

1396
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: they're a running football team. Allen does not drop back

1397
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: a lot unless the game demands, like Week one when

1398
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 2: they had to come back against Baltimore. But for the

1399
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 2: most part, the foundation of what they do with their

1400
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 2: offense is running the football, and they play a lot

1401
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,920
Speaker 2: with multiple tight ends. They play with the fallback. They

1402
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: don't just say Josh Gobi superman. He can be when necessary,

1403
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 2: but that's not how they structure their offense at all.

1404
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 1: Certainly, we'd rather have it be the break glass in

1405
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: case of emergency. James Cook right now after getting paid,

1406
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: because you know we always have those fallacies in the media. Well,

1407
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 1: once a guy gets paid, no, no, right point thirty

1408
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: yards per Carrie thus far a couple of big runs,

1409
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, already averaging one hundred yards per game.

1410
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: Greg, he's been better than I thought coming out. I

1411
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 2: loved him coming out, Mike, but I didn't think he'd

1412
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 2: be a feature tight back. And he runs much harder

1413
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: inside than I anticipated. And he's a terrific cutback runner,

1414
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: and he really gives them both a sustaining element and

1415
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: a big play element.

1416
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. The big question, I guess when we get to

1417
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: and we've got plenty of weeks before we get there, though, Greg,

1418
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: is whether they have that go to guy. Now they've

1419
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: showed it and did it Week one against Baltimore. We

1420
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: all remember that. That's an instant classic you can watch

1421
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: forever in terms of those guys going back and forth,

1422
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: but in terms of a go get it guy right now,

1423
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean Keenan Coleman, Kean Coleman, I should say Khalil Shaki,

1424
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of complating their names and making him one hybrid guy.

1425
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: But do they have that one guy?

1426
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,479
Speaker 2: Because I think you're right, You're right, at some point

1427
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 2: you're going to get man coverage, and you'd like to

1428
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 2: be able to feel like, hey, we can beat man coverage.

1429
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 2: You know. Obviously, I think Joe Brady does a really

1430
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 2: good job scheming and creating plays, you know, scheme touchdowns,

1431
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: like when they hit Kinkaid last week to put the

1432
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: game away was a schemed play. You'd love to have

1433
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: those as well, But at some point your receivers are

1434
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 2: going to have to win against man coverage, and I

1435
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: guess well, for that'll come up as we move forward here, Mike,

1436
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: we're going to find out.

1437
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, trying to get Kinkaid back to the

1438
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: player he was in twenty twenty three. Is certainly a

1439
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: huge piece here, right, miss several games due to injury

1440
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: la last year, used as a block or a bunch

1441
01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 1: because of the depleted offensive line. So we'll see if

1442
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: you can get back to that seventy three catch for him,

1443
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: because obviously that'll change some complexities of what defenses have

1444
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: to cover up there as well.

1445
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play a lot out of, you know, multiple

1446
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: tight ends, and they've got this Jackson Hawes kid who

1447
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,719
Speaker 2: they drafted out of Gelgia Tech after forty years at Yale.

1448
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: And this guy is a big time blocker, so they

1449
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 2: use him now instead of a sixth offensive lineman, which

1450
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: they did a ton a year ago. But no, they're

1451
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: a running team. I mean, that's the bottom line. They

1452
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: are a running football team first and foremost.

1453
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: Showing the depth of what we do here. Earlier on

1454
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 1: we got the use of a Syracuse player in Tucker,

1455
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: and now we got a Yale guy, So yeah, there

1456
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: you go. We go deep here at Greg Cosell where

1457
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: you find him in the Twitter verse, find me over

1458
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome. A couple more games to go, and

1459
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: then a SoundBite that, well, it's Sunday morning. Let's take

1460
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of levity. We'll do that as we

1461
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 1: continue and wrap things up. Here it's Fox Football Sunday

1462
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Football Sunday,

1463
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,520
Speaker 1: finishing up. Count Down to Kickoff presented by bet MGM.

1464
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: Coming up in about ten minutes time. Here Fox Sports Radio,

1465
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back in Mike Harmon alongside Greg co Sell as

1466
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: we wrap things up. A couple more games to get to,

1467
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: but I'd be remiss, you know, levity. We're always looking

1468
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: for the always look at the bright side of life,

1469
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: the old Monty Python line as it were. And while

1470
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: we're trying to find the glass half full moment for

1471
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina Tar Heels fans after being throttled by the

1472
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: Clemson Tigers, here's something that went viral. Greg. This was

1473
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: a you know, kind of a man on the street

1474
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: interview with a young lady from North Carolina.

1475
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 7: TCU was I went to that game and that was

1476
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 7: that was one of the saddest feelings I've had in

1477
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 7: university so far, and I've failed midterms before.

1478
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: So let's say something there. You go, I failed midterms,

1479
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: but that TCU game was worse.

1480
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 2: But how dad feels about that?

1481
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: No, I've got to say, you know, there's some questions

1482
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 1: being asked so mid trip. Well, but I mean, if

1483
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: the final result right, it's all about learning and improvement

1484
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: whatever else. If my kids are listening, that's not the

1485
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 1: way it goes. We strive for excellence every time we

1486
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: put pen to paper or click a keystroke, no question.

1487
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: But Glenson came out right off the jump with the

1488
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: seventy five yard trickery play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just long season ahead here for the North Carolina

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01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: tar Heels as they try to get things going under

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. But just thought that was kind of a

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01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: funny little side story coming out of a big day

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01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,919
Speaker 1: of college football action. Of course, here in Los Angeles,

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01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: those few UCLA Bruins fans I know are celebrating that victory,

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01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: the long awaited win with a big one over Penn State,

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01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: but a couple more NFL games to traverse here. We

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 1: got a little bit of controversy, a lot of pointing

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: and fighting, Tennessee cam Ward assessing the first quarter of

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01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: the season and his coach saying, you know, you can't

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01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,120
Speaker 1: say those things out loud in terms of how poorly

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01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: the squad's played. Now they're on the road against an

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: Arizona team that is still an enigma to me through

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01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: the first quarter.

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01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 2: What are they greg Arizona? Well, I think there are

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01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 2: a tough defense to play against because they do some

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: things on the back end that are really difficult to

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01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 2: figure out, and that'll be hard for not only cam Word,

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01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: but for the entire offense on the other side. You know,

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01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray, I think he's one of those guys. And

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01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: I've had this conversation with people, and the film shows it.

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01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 2: He's a tough guy to figure out. There's so many

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 2: in any game, by the way, and it could be today.

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01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: In any game he can make three special plays and

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 2: you go, wow, that's Kyler Murray. But the problem for

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 2: him is when you really study him in detail, and

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 2: I've probably seen almost every game he's played in the NFL,

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01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 2: he leaves a lot of throws on the field and

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01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: at times he can't see over his own line. Mic

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:49,520
Speaker 2: other times he's too reactive to bodies that he perceives

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01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: as pressure, but it's not really pressure. But I think

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01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: that's also a function of his size. Other times he

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 2: drops his eyes and he looks at the rush, and

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: therefore he breaks down and he looks to run when

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01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 2: he can certainly throw it, he's not really a fine

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01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 2: timing and anticipation thrower. So's he's a hard guy week

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01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: to week to figure. Can he be special any given week, Absolutely,

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01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: but you just don't know what you're gonna get.

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01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 1: Seems like this is an opportunity though for that Arizona defense,

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01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: perhaps to make some hay. We've seen Ward take a

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01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: bunch of sacks, so perhaps working off advantageous field position.

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01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: I now they're down to their third running back. We

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 1: talk about the turning back, the running back carousel, as

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01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: it were, the de mercado, the next man up for them.

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01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was unhappy to see Trey Benson

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: go down because I liked him coming out and when

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01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,639
Speaker 2: I saw that, you know, Connor got hurt, obviously another

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01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 2: tragic injury. I was thinking, Okay, this will be a

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 2: chance for Benson to really get a full time opportunity.

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: And then of course he now goes down and they

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01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 2: say probably four to six weeks, so who knows what

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01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 2: that means, but yeah, they're they're down to their third

1543
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: guy and they've got to be able to run the

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01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: to some degree because Murray is not really that kind

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 2: of quarterback.

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01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: All right, So we got two games left to touch

1547
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: on really quick, and I think that's all this one deserves.

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: Detroit Cincinnati. The most interesting thing is that there's a

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01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: large over under number, so fireworks. But is it all

1550
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: one sided for the Detroit Allions.

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01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, the Cincinnati offense has not been very good

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01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: and you just don't know what you're going to get

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: with them with Jake Browning, I guess we figured out

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01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 2: that Jared goffs okay. In Detroit, their run game has

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01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: really started to come around as well, because they are

1556
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 2: a very balanced offense. They've got every element you could

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 2: want on offense. I know Taylor Decker is likely out

1558
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: this week, but you know, they're very good and all

1559
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 2: they can win running the ball. They have a short

1560
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 2: passing game, and intermediate passing game, a vertical passing game.

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01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: They're a very complete offense.

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Speaker 1: Early goings there, mid first quarter, Cleveland up seven, nothing,

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass Gabriel to Harold fannin junior. There you go,

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01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 1: tight end your everybody, he's best friend. A reception for

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01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: him and one for Injoku the fan and touchdown.

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01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: We're starting Gabriel's Hall of Fame career.

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Speaker 1: Gabriel's right now you started, that's right, while we're on

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01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: in one catch, a yard, one touchdown. Those are my

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01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 1: favorite stat lines. The old Jerome bettis when he had

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: five carries for one yard and three touchdowns.

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 2: One of my there you go, all right.

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Speaker 1: Finally no Tyreek Hill done for the year. Miami at Carolina,

1573
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle and the return of Darren Waller of all people.

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miami again. They did run the ball last week.

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01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 2: I believe a Hen had twenty carries, if memory sherves

1576
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: me correctly. They're gonna have to play like that because

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01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: that's you know, we've discussed two of before. He's a

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01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: specific kind of quarterback. He needs a run game to

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01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: be effective. So they're gonna have to really continue to

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01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: lean on the run game and let and allow two

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: to play the only way he can really play, which

1582
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: is a pure timing and rhythm player.

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01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: Twenty for ninety nine and a score last week for

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01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: Ah we'll see if he's back in the receiving game

1585
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: because just two catches, two yards, but they did get

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01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: the win over the New York Football Jets. Boy crazy

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01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: slate ahead of us here all the way through Monday night.

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01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: Kansas City and Jacksonville one that we're watching with great anticipation.

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Speaker 2: Every week's a good one, Mike, as far as I'm

1590
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 2: concerned football.

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01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: No, that's it Son so many storylines to go. The

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 1: quarterback carousel will be here for the next iteration next week.

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01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.

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01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 2: Thanks, Mike.

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01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: That's great CoA sale at Great coas sale where you

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01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:36,599
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