1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's enriching themselves in bath sults. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: My name is Dan hans As. I come to you 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: from a virtual room filled with some heras Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Greg Rosal what's up? Voice A nah, Hey, Greg? And 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: I still have not figured out, um the machinations of 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: how to open the show off your intro minus West. 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean I just lean on Greg to say something 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: at this point, I said, yeah, I mean I could 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: talk about your beautiful Christmas present. You're wearing Mark a 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: nice Star Trek Star Wars shirt. WHOA, I am getting 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: in trouble there. It's okay. You were the one who 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: it's a millennium Falcon shirt. Um got it from the family, 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: and you were the one that famously claimed to not 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: know what the millennium Falcon was when I had in 16 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: previous Millennium Falcon shirt show. I don't, I mean, you 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: got as close as I could expect right there, and 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to like come after you 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: with this stuff, Mark, because it's not your fault that 20 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: it's such a saturated cultural force, but like, is there 21 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: a separate type of Twitter where you guys could talk 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: about the Mandalarian, because I don't think I've tweeted about 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: that once, so I don't know if that's what I'm saying. 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: It's like, it's like Parlor. You guys know about Parlor 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: the new Uh social media would be like that, but 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: for people to talk about the Mandalorian and really any 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: Star Wars stuff, right, it's like, look, um, and I 28 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: saw your baby, Now let's talk about it now. I 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: saw your comment that you, um, you jumped out of 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Star Wars after seeing only the Phantom Menace. Can I 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: just let you know that, like, if that was all 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: that I saw, I would never watch another minute of it. 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: That was not only the most disappointing film from that franchise, 34 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: I think it is one of the most disappointing films 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: ever made Top five. So you know, if I ever 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: get the invite to your new house and I understand 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: there's some pandemic issues going on right now, I have 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: on more than one occasion, uh laid out the situation 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: if it interests you. And I said this to Jason 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: Zumalta as well, a Star Wars nerd in his own right, 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: I would definitely sit down and watch, uh these other 42 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: star wars that you guys are so fond of, because 43 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: I haven't seen them. And I do have as someone 44 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: that likes to consider myself somewhat plugged in on pop culture, 45 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: although it's starting to fade as I get older. I 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: want to have these contexts and these context touchstones, and 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: I've been making an effort of it recently. If you 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: follow me on social media, I somehow had missed die Hard. 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I checked I checked out Planes, Trains and Automobiles, one 50 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: of the big comedy hits of the late eighties. I 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: have some blind spots in the film world, strangely, I 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: don't know why, just the way it was when I 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: was a kid, and I'm trying to fill in those gaps. 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: But sci fi in general has always been something that 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: I've not been into, and that's, I think, more than 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: any other reason why I haven't got into your realm. Well, 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't like this on ride there outside of those films, 58 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: and I saw them when I was a child. I 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: think if I saw if all this bum rush of 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: content came at me now, I'd ignore it. So I 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: get where you're where you're coming from. You're working very 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: hard to work on these blind spots. We're talking about 63 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Star Wars again on this show, Um and other Mark 64 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: Sessler news that came down Officially, Mason Rudolph will start 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: at quarterback for Pittsburgh in Week seventeen against the Browns. 66 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin opts to sit many of his key starters. 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: It looks like they're they're not locked into their spot 68 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: in the on the postseason, but they can't get the bye, 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: and after a long season without a without having a 70 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: natural bye week, they're going to use this for their 71 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: key guys. Can't blame Tomlin will get into really the 72 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: flip side of that argument maybe a little bit later 73 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: on the Thursday show when we preview all the week seventeen. 74 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: But I just want to check it. Check the temperature 75 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: of Sessler obviously, uh bitterly disappointing the loss of the 76 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: Jets on Sunday. How are you nervous that Mason Rudolph 77 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: is the picture here right now with the season on 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: the line, potentially? Of course? I mean, where's your pea 79 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: scale let? It's totally dry, ten soaked, gotta run home 80 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: to mommy, soaked, running home to mommy. I mean I 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: I I there's nothing about any of this that makes 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: me confident, and I don't want to hear about numbers 83 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: and stats and analytics. This is no different than UM 84 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: coming into this year, a team like Buffalo figuring out 85 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: how can they could possibly um slay the ghosts of 86 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: New England. I mean, if you go over to the 87 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: a f C North, there are a lot of parallels here, 88 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: and I don't care. It's like Big Ben has been 89 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: lighting the world on fire. And part of me would 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: rather actually um, as a Browns fan, face their entire 91 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: starting lineup and get into the playoffs because you earned it. Um. 92 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: I think that this is a team that's still doubted 93 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: by plenty of people, and like people have already forgot 94 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: the circumstances around the Jets game. Now it's just the 95 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: Brown's loss to the Jets, which is utter madness. UM. 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm not listening to a word of that. But pea 97 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: scale raging, pea scale raging. Um, I there's no reason 98 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: to be comfortable. I do think they'll be prepared, but 99 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not comfortable. Mason Rudolph's peace scale should 100 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: be raging. With Myles Garrett coming off a nice game 101 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: coming around the corner. That's all nice, Mark, I I 102 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: I would feel the same way that like, it feels 103 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: weird to go against their backups, and it would be 104 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: especially heartbreaking if they lose the Steelers backups, which is 105 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: certainly possible. That said, I like your chance is much 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: better with Mason Rudolph out there. So ultimately, if I 107 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: were you, I think that's a good thing, right, And 108 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: that's yeah, it's just the just the teaser will check 109 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: in on the peace scale on Thursday. Maybe we'll be 110 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: a little better off, but I kind of doubt it. 111 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: We have a big show today. Uh, we will have 112 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: the great Peter Schrager joining us with black Mondays. That's 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: known in the NFL. Coming up. That is the day 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: after the regular season when the axe falls on head coaches, 115 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: and we could, you know, we could try to U 116 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: sing Dixie and and pretend like something bad is not 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: going to happen on Monday, but coaches will lose their jobs. 118 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: Entire staffs will be scattered to the wind. It happens 119 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: every year. We talked about it a few weeks back 120 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: when I did the Hot Bunt Hot but tiers. Uh. 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: There's usually about five to eight openings right now we 122 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: have three officially, and there will be more to come. 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: So Pete, who's plugged in as anybody, is going to 124 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: talk to us about what he's hearing, both, who could 125 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: be going, who could be coming, Hot names on the market, 126 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: all that good stuff. UH looking at as a primer 127 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: for Black Monday. UM. Also, I like this one. This 128 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: one has been percolating for a few weeks. I kind 129 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: of had to like draw it at a Rosenthal because 130 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: I think I think he worries about you know what 131 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: happened with the previous play by play guy for Monday 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Night Football and in a certain attack that went down 133 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: at a coach's breakfast. Uh the play by play power 134 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: rankings going through uh Greg's interpretation of the best to 135 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: the worst or the worst to the best play by 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: play guys. And you know, Cessler gonna throw Sessler. He's 137 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: in the dog pound, throw him a bone too. Mark 138 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: is gonna give us his own interpretation, UH color guys, 139 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: top ten, whatever Mark came up with, and I will 140 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: just be here to enjoy it all. But before any 141 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: of that, we wrap up Week sixteen with a glorious 142 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: edition of Monday Night Football. Alan he does, he throws 143 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: able to complete its ticks and tell like it's time. 144 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: Takes is looking back, touched down and he stumbles into 145 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: the end zone. It's a fifty yard pass play from 146 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen for the Buffalo Bills. Oh my goodness, Steffa, 147 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: and nobody cares about your fantasy team. But I will 148 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: tell a real quick story here. Forty point lead last 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: night I had in my championship league. My opponent has 150 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs. He gets thirty nine points before they sit 151 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: in to the balance of the fourth quarter. As close 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: as you can come to one of the great Monday 153 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: night collapses in a fantasy championship. Thank you, Sean McDermott, 154 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: you are a special man. Stefan Diggs three touchdowns, Josh 155 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Allen four touchdown throws again, the Bills raging out of 156 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: control thirty eight to nine over the Patriots in Foxboro. 157 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: In Foxboro, it is the changing of the guard. There's 158 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: no question anymore, Greg Rose at all, not that there 159 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: was entering this game, but it did feel like a coronation. 160 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: The Patriots now a losing record for the first time 161 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: in twenty years, first time they get swept by a 162 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: division opponent in twenty years. It's all the new world 163 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: now and one that Pats fans like you are not 164 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: too familiar with. No, it's it's reminiscent of the early 165 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: nineties or late late eighties, because that was when the 166 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: Bills were great too. Uh, you know, once you got 167 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: into the nineties. This offense and Josh Allen, you can't 168 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: say enough that right now they're playing better than any 169 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. I don't. I don't think that's 170 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost too obvious to say in terms 171 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: of consistently doing it week to week that Josh Allen 172 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: has had a better December I would say than Aaron 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. Now that's just December. Alan had 174 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: I think too many off weeks in the middle of 175 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: the season to be uh the m v P. But 176 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: he would be my QB three for the year after 177 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: those two, which is amazing. And some of the throws 178 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: that he makes where he has to place the ball 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: above the linebacker but in front of the safety or 180 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: cornerback are just amazing. UM to see him with that 181 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: sort of touch and accuracy while he also is using 182 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: his arm strength on those throats. The reason Dig said 183 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: such a big day. Partly was because he's not gonna 184 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: get a man coverage many weeks, but this this time 185 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: he did against j. C. Jackson, who's, you know, one 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: of the best cornerbacks in league. But there's no one 187 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: that can cover a perfect throw from Josh Allen and 188 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: a perfect you know route from Diggs and then you 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm buying that with a defense in Buffalo that is 190 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: six in d v o A since Week eight. So 191 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: that is the biggest change, and it's why they should 192 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: be viewed as, you know, the top Super Bowl contender 193 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: behind the Chiefs. And if they were in the NFC, 194 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: I might say they're the favorites in the NFC. That's 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: how good they are. I'm with you, I think they 196 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: could beat the Chiefs. Um, I really I don't think that. 197 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I think that feels like an obvious thing to say 198 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: that that that there, it would be a great game. 199 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Alan his fourth appearance with three plus yards, 200 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: four plus touchdown passes and a skyrocketing passer rating. Only 201 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has done that since nineteen fifty back in 202 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: two thousand seven in a single season. So I mean, 203 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: it's real, Um, this team is real, that there's something 204 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: beyond the game itself, because the game was largely non competitive. Um, 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: the Patriots ended the game was six punts. I mean 206 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: they were they were a fizzled mess, and it to 207 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: me was kind of like, and I'm not equating it historically, 208 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: but from a football angle, like watching the Berlin Wall 209 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: come down. Um, back when I was in middle school 210 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: and not quite knowing what that was, and a younger fan, 211 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: UM might say, well, what's the big deal? The Bills 212 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: are great, but it's been so long and the Patriots 213 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: have been in their way for so for the entire century. 214 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I mean, this is changing the face of the NFL 215 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: right now. Um, they were terrible house guests. I thought you. 216 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: I was great to hear Jerry Hughes say, I've never 217 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: had this feeling at Foxboro. Sean McDermott is the only 218 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Bills coach since two thousand who has not only beaten 219 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots twice in one season, but twice at all 220 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: in in his coaching running Buffalo. It's been that dominant. 221 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just incredible what Bills fans have gone 222 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: through against this team. And Dan, you know it well 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: as a Jets fan. There's gonna come a day when 224 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: they drop a bomb on this team too, and it's 225 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: just we're watching the a f C change before our eyes. 226 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: It's been happening all year, and last night was a 227 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: beautiful exclamation point. Yeah, I thought. You know, as a 228 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,439 Speaker 1: Jets fan, I've said on this podcast, my favorite victory 229 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: really and maybe any sport, but certainly NFL is when 230 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: the Jets knocked off the Patriots in the two thousand 231 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: ten playoffs in Foxboro. And it wasn't just because it 232 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: got them to they AFC title game and and and 233 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: all that. It was because it was in Foxborough, was 234 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: against Brady, it was against Belichick, and it was just 235 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: that's become a house of horrors for all a f 236 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: C East teams and really the a f C in 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: general for twenty years. So to see this new reality 238 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: that we're living in, um, if you have been following 239 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the sport for decades, it is striking. Even though none 240 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: of this is surprising, because we knew entering the season 241 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: that the Patriots were no longer an elite team. They 242 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: just didn't have the parts and maybe they will after 243 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: whatever they do, whether it's a reload or rebuild, but 244 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: in the here and now, they are not a very 245 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: good team and the Bills. I mean it's talked about 246 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: catching a team at the wrong time. It's the Patriots 247 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of limping to the finish line and the Bills 248 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: just achieving this level right now where you know, if 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: they would have left in Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs 250 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: in addition to me losing my fantasy title, that's a 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: fifty burger. So Sean McDermand actually showed a restraint, but 252 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: not too much restraint, Greg because even when they were 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: in full control of the game, I think thirty one nine, 254 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: he's thrown an eighty yard bomb downfield that doesn't complete. 255 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: There was a sense of not that Sean McDermott has 256 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: bad blood for Belichick in the pages, but this idea 257 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: like this is over, Like this era of New England 258 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Patriots domination is over. This is the new reality. That 259 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: was a message game. I mean, it's it's been over 260 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: this season. And uh, I think they were just doing 261 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: what the Patriots would have done and have done. And 262 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: I think Belichick totally respects it. He went out of 263 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: his way to and I do I don't think it's performative, um, 264 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: but I think he pulls he picks the spots to 265 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: do it, to have that sort of long hug and 266 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: talk with McDermott right at the end, kind of telling 267 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: telling him how impressed he is in everything, and like 268 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: he gets it. They're thrown deep when they're up fifty 269 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: two to seven on the Titans and the snow like 270 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: you know, back again, you know, years and years ago. 271 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: Like that, that's what they do. I think they know 272 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: they're bad that. The Patriots are a walking example of 273 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: how little the running game matters in the NFL. I 274 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: I always think about that watching their offense. It's like 275 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: everyone who talks about how important the running game is, like, yeah, 276 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: as a compliment, because you know who's great at running 277 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: the ball this year? The Patriots. You know who has 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: the third fewest touchdowns this year, The Patriots, Only the 279 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: Jets and the Giants have fewer touchdowns this year than Like, 280 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: the running game just doesn't do that much for you 281 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: if it's this passing game. I mean the running game work, 282 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like it's actually possible they have 283 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: a top five running game to have that good of 284 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: a running game without a passing game, and it doesn't matter. 285 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: You're the worst offense in the league despite that, Whereas 286 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: if you like flip it and you have a terrible 287 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: running game like you can in the Patriots, you know 288 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: you can still be great. And their defense is bad 289 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: and and who knows, like they they're gonna be a 290 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: very very different team next year. All these teams are 291 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: and the Bills should get their eating while while it's good, 292 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: but there's no reason to think this Bill's team in 293 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: particular is UH is gonna be going anywhere. And by 294 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: the way, they get to add John Smokey Brown, their 295 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: best deep threat to this offense in the playoffs. It's 296 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. And if I'm a Browns fan and that's 297 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: the slated matchup right now, that is not who I 298 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: would want to see in the first round or a 299 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Ravens fan. UH Bills rate like the Bills are the 300 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: team you do not want to be facing if you're 301 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: a wild card in the A. Well, they're not pulling 302 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: a Texans flop this time around. They're not losing whatever 303 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: team they face. And to your point, the Patriots had 304 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: a two passing yard differential last night UM two hundred 305 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: and eighty eight yards differential, the worst in franchise history. 306 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: They can't throw the ball. They're in nept And one 307 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: last little thing. When we sat with Sean McDermott at 308 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: the owner's meeting two years ago, and you know, we 309 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: had a lot of We had a nice time with him, 310 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: and he seemed like a guy we liked. We liked 311 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: him as a good coach. But when we asked him 312 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: about the Patriots and this obstacle in the way, he 313 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: sounded like every other coach. You know, Listen, we get it, 314 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to. You are thinking, get get, get 315 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: them out of the way, and I and part of 316 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: me is like, cool, I don't. I simply don't believe 317 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: it will happen anytime soon. And it's happened very quickly. 318 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: And it has to do with Tom Brady being out 319 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: of the mix. I get all that, But the Patriots 320 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: have one of the biggest rebuilding jobs to do in 321 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: the league this offseason. It's pretty crazy. I imagine Tom 322 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: Brady is enjoying this as well, not just because, um, 323 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: maybe there's bad blood, although I know Greg you don't 324 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: think there is, but there is this whole chicken in 325 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the egg thing with Bell Chick and Brady. And this 326 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: does not mean that Belichick is not the greatest coach ever, 327 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: but it does not I'm sure it's a little annoying 328 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: to Belichick. He'd never tell you that Brady is again 329 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: playing great and surging back into the playoffs while the 330 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: Patriots now going to this deep abyss and rebuild in 331 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: the first year that Brady is out of town. I 332 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: think that's been another kind of element of this season 333 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: that's been interesting to watch, Brady continuing to stay at 334 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: that you know, high end level. Well, the Patriots crumble, 335 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: He well, he's not going to be viewing it as 336 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: an abyss. I'm sure that he. They're gonna be planning 337 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: to compete next year, whether they can figure out a 338 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: way to do that, because this is a team that 339 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: I think was lucky to get to six wins seven 340 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: If they can beat the Jets, Jets might be favored 341 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: in that game. At this point, Um, you know they're 342 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking to compete right away. But but 343 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: good luck with that. I mean, it's tough. I like 344 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: the moment when Brady Belichick got bad advice from upstairs 345 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: on the Challenge and then of course, uh, ESPN and 346 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: ABC cameras capture him screaming at some poor bastards on 347 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: the phone and slamming it down. And then uh, there 348 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: was a reporter and you could hear in the voice 349 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: a fear to ask the question, but as a reporter, 350 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: you had to do it. Let's listen to Belichick being 351 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: asked about that incident on the sideline. There was a 352 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: shot of you throwing the phone on the sideline challenge Star. 353 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you didn't see the play before the challenge, 354 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: but uh, what went on on that play? Yeah, but uh, 355 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously he made the couch. It was a 356 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: good coach. Maybe that yeah, you already actually you know 357 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: he comported himself fairly well there Actually, well that's the 358 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: right question at least. Yeah, yeah he did. He asked 359 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: the question and a better loss seven hundred thousand on 360 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: the Patriots last night, went all in on two wagers 361 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: at the MGM. And I just have to ask Greg. 362 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: I know they're your favorite team, but you can't be 363 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: reckless with money like that. You have a family like 364 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: that was just the bad as true. Um, I was 365 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: more confident, I'll just say, and this bill's you know, 366 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: winning this game by a lot than any any pick 367 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: I made all week in game debut. So I will 368 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: tell you I I felt like a bad fan kind 369 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: of rooting um for that to be correct last night. Well, 370 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: it's a better draft pick, and that's a short and 371 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: I would think that there's really no reason for Kim 372 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: New to start Week seventeen. You think it should be 373 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: Jard Stidham against the Jets, But who knows what bellchick. 374 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: You just never know of the decision he's gonna make. 375 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: It's not gonna come from any outside influence. Um. All right, 376 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: So the Bills, by the way, Bills number two in 377 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: the power rankings. I actually gave it a little bit 378 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: of thought, should I could I the Chiefs kind of 379 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: sleepwalking their way to the playoffs. The Bills are just 380 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: not just a good team. This is a great team. 381 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: And when you look at the Bills, the Chiefs, and 382 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the Ravens in there, personally, like those 383 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: three teams all in the playoffs together. You can make 384 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a case for any of them right now. If you 385 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: ask me, it's gonna be at Ravens. Got a lot 386 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: of holes there. But you're right, the Bills are actually 387 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: ahead of the Chiefs and waited d v O a. 388 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I think the Saints are too for that, um you know, 389 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: but like waiting at the end of the season a 390 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: little heavier than the very beginning. So I don't think 391 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I think they're the two best teams in 392 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: the league, the Bills and the Chiefs. I put the 393 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: Ravens right there. If they continue to play this man, 394 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: you guys are buying into the I'm beaten. Some I 395 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: love the Ravens, and many they have. They've had a 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: lot of injuries that those guys aren't coming back, That's 397 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And they haven't played, that's all I'm saying. 398 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: We will track, and of course it must be said 399 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: that they haven't had a very good performance is the 400 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: last two januaries. We're gonna get to all that. We 401 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: got so much uh coverage of the playoffs coming up, 402 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: both on this podcast and on NFL Network. It's gonna 403 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: be good, all right. That is Monday Night Football. Alright. 404 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: Let's now get to our special guest, and we are 405 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: a big fan of this man. He is the co 406 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: host of Good Morning Football program that I am lucky 407 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: enough to have a weekly guest spot on. He is 408 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: the senior national writer for Fox Sports dot Com and 409 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: g Q and of course the co author of the 410 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: New York Times bestseller out of the Blue? Do you 411 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: not have out of the Blue yet? Let's bring up 412 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: on he is the great Peter Schrager. Well, what's up? 413 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: What is up? Guys? Thanks for having me on. I 414 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: was on over the summer, had a blast of the 415 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: US and who we are to end the season Week seventeen? 416 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Nothing better? And uh not to take the show by 417 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: storm here, but I gotta tell you Greg Mark Dan 418 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: is great on our show. We have the best time 419 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: with him on the power ranking segment. I think we 420 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: need a Sessler and a Rosenthal segment. If you guys 421 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: are willing to get up so early in the morning 422 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: next season, listen. I mean the answer is yes, I'll 423 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: get up at any time. I don't, I won't go 424 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: to sleep. I want to just do like a dramatic 425 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: reading of Out of the Blue by Victor, you know, 426 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: by you and Victor Cruz. I actually I have it, 427 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: and I have like a little football library, all my 428 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: football books back there. It's back there, and just like 429 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: each each week I read a couple more pages. Great TV. 430 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, just because you have the book. 431 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: It was in the newsroom and you grab it. That 432 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you get credit for it. You have 433 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: to read it and you know, pay for it. I 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: know Pete Traeger from back. It was directly to sent 435 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: directly to my apartment in New York. I remember this, 436 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: this quarantine. There have been some books that I like, 437 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: I really want to read Loan, some Dove like it's 438 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: this long, like I really at some point when I 439 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: read Dune, like the original Dune. Now they're making the 440 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: movie um out of the Blue, though should be number 441 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: one on everyone's list. I think it's exacting. So we're 442 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: having Peen on Comspetes is plugged in as anybody. And 443 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: now as we enter week seventeen, here it's time to 444 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: take close to look at what's happening with these job openings. 445 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: And we have obviously open gigs in Detroit, Atlanta, and Houston, 446 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: and then there are some jobs that should be opening up. 447 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: But let's start. We know what we know with those 448 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: three teams. What are the teams that you feel very 449 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: confident about. We'll be searching for a new coach affected 450 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: Black Monday. I don't I don't like doing this before 451 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Black Monday, and and black Monday is uh is not 452 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: a great day for a lot of coaches because it's 453 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: not only the coaches, but there's like assistant coaches, and 454 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: these families basically are told you're out of work. Now 455 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: you gotta go hustle scramble for another job. So it's 456 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: I'd never like doing this. And and I think a 457 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, um, I didn't say it on air, 458 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: but a lot of people did. They fired Truck Pogano. 459 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: They said he's gonna be done in Indianapolis, and then 460 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Pogano one week seventeen kept his job for one more year. 461 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: And here so like, I don't like saying, here's the 462 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: things that here are the three teams we know about. 463 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: And then I would say, with a strong conviction, I 464 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: think the Jets and Jacksonville most likely will be and 465 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: then there's always a wild I don't know on the 466 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: Chargers right now, I really don't know all the charges. 467 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: I think Anthony Lynn has done a lot to help 468 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: his case, and I think, um, they liked the locker room, 469 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: the feeling right there, So I'd rather not go down 470 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: that road. But Atlanta, Houston, Detroit probably, Jacksonville probably the Jets. 471 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: That's what I would say at the moment, and there's 472 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: usually one or two others that wedn't be coming. And again, 473 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: you're right, this is not a celebration. What's gonna happen 474 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: to some of these guys in their staffs. But are 475 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: you saying there's a chance the Gates can hold on 476 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: to his job? Let's say, all right, let's just say 477 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: because the Jets are locked in now number now. You've 478 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: got Dan Panics, got me, they're locked in at number 479 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: two now even if they beat the Patriots. Um and 480 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: normally I was thinking about this last night while the 481 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: Patriots are getting destroyed. Since I'm not getting Trevor Lawrence, 482 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: let's kill the Patriots in week seventeen and go out 483 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: with three straight wins. But that is like, do I 484 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: trust this ownership to not put too much stock into 485 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: a three game winning streak after an oh and thirteen start? 486 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't trust them, Pete. Should I be worried that 487 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: there could be a way that they could sway Adam 488 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: Gaze can sway ownership with a third straight win? I 489 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: would say this. I know the guys in that building 490 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: fairly well. They at no point in this season. We're 491 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: tanking that no point wanted to lose. They've been wanting 492 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to win every single game. Coaches, players, and I assume 493 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: the owner and of course the general manager Joe Douglas. 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: No one ever thought about the draft pick the way 495 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: that you Dan, or some of the other Jets fans, 496 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: or at least the local market that I'm in, we're 497 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: thinking about it. I would say this, Adam Gates can 498 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: finish the season with three wins. I would assume that 499 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: there's going to be a long conversation about his future. 500 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: And I would assume that there might be some decks 501 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: and chairs being removed on the deck. As far as 502 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: the coaching staff goes for the New York Jets, there 503 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 1: we go. UM, I don't fire anybody. I don't do it. 504 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: It's I hear you and I um, I have a 505 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: few things I wanna ask you about. But you you 506 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Lynn, and I read something that made some sense 507 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: to me that one reporticlest the team thought they're gonna 508 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: look for any reason to keep him because they like 509 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: them and because this year was weird, and it's like 510 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: they have Justin Herbert playing so well that there's actually 511 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: kind of a thought which I think makes some sense 512 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: that you at least have to consider the fact do 513 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: you want to change his offense after uh he plays 514 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: so well? I also thought like Tom Talsco, who's you know, 515 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: in terms of drafting Pro Bowlers, has done as well 516 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: as any general manager in the league practically, But doesn't 517 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: you know, have a lot of winds and sometimes you know, 518 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: they don't let the GM you know, fire multiple coaches. 519 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: And he's already fired Mike McCoy there too, so like 520 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: so if they changed the Lynn, it could be I 521 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: don't know, like would you keep to let's go and 522 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: change another coach and let to let's go pick again? 523 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: Do you think like the Chargers, especially with the stadium 524 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: and knowing their ownership history, I think makes a difference 525 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: to me too, Like knowing if they're an ownership they 526 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: might just lay back or if they're gonna be super active, 527 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: whether that would factor in, especially if they go ahead 528 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: and win this game here at the end, and like 529 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: feel like they have uh like a nice winning streak 530 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: to close the season. They had a brutal loss a 531 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago where they called the audible on 532 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: fourth on fourth down and the running team was out there, 533 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: but remember that play, and I think everyone thought Anthony 534 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: lynnmight get fired then. And then you know, I got 535 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: folks in Los Angeles I spoke with and they said, 536 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: we're not making any changes this week, like and that 537 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: was the key thing this week. And I was pushing 538 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: back with my folks that I know there, and I'm like, okay, 539 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: this week, but does that mean next week? Does that 540 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: mean the week I after? Does that mean that he's 541 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: safe for the off season? And I couldn't get a 542 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: straight answer. They love Anthony Lynn. They love him and 543 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: like you said, Greg, great guy. The players love him. 544 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: And the only issue they haven't won many games. They 545 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: did win a playoff game in Baltimore a couple of 546 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: years ago. But then you start trying to make justifications 547 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: in your head, you say, okay, well, look, Derwin James 548 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: was injured before the season started. It's COVID. It's a 549 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: weird deal. They have played in front of an empty stadium. 550 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: They even got a chance to open that new stadium 551 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: that really haven't even got their footprints settled. And Herberts 552 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: had such a such great leaps of the last two 553 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: He's gonna be offensive rookie the Year you're really bringing 554 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: a new offensive coach. I'd be really interested to see 555 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: what they do, because there's a lot of reasons you 556 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: can justify it. Now. I always get get into like 557 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: the coaching stuff, and it's all right. If Anthony Lynn 558 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: were to be fired, is there a line of teams 559 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: looking to bring him in next year? I always think 560 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: about the market place and the value of the coach. 561 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: So if Matt Naggie was fired, I think there there 562 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: might be a line of team to say, hey, bringing 563 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: Matt Naggie for an interview. You know, like my McCarthy 564 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: was fired, teams are all right, let's bring him in. 565 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: Didn't get the job right away, but let's bring him in. Um. 566 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Of course, Adam Gaze was fired by the Dolphins. Jets 567 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: were like, let's hire Adam Gaze. I don't sure, but 568 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: at the time it wasn't loops. Everyone was like, all right, 569 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's an established coach. Um, Anthony, I'm not sure. 570 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: And that's what I think is going through a lot 571 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: of people's heads right now. I wouldn't be shocked if 572 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn kept his job. I'll just say that I 573 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: would look at you know, if you go beyond the 574 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: NFL and kind of like what David Tepper did last year, 575 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: going out and you know, meeting Matt Rule and becoming 576 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: enamored with him and signing into that kind of a contract, 577 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: which you know for a college coaches, that's a little 578 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: that's unusual in the NFL. There's the Matt Campbell's out there, 579 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: Um Lincoln Riley, Jim Harbaugh's name has comed out, Urban Meyer, 580 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, I think of, you know, David Sweeney and 581 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, who are gonna get Trevor Lawrence. Do you 582 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: see um college coaches having a chance to crack in 583 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: this year or is it more we're exploring these guys, 584 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: but we're probably gonna go with the old, the old 585 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: NFL club. We're gonna pull someone that we know and 586 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: have more familiar information on. All Right, The word I 587 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: got this year is that college coaches might be more 588 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: willing now to make the leap than ever before because 589 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: of just how screwy the n c A is, how 590 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: uncertain things are, how there was such a lack of 591 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: leadership across the board as far as conference colleague college 592 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: football right now is the great abyss. No one knows 593 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: what the future is if it's ever gonna get back 594 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: on track. What's going on with amateurism in sports in general, 595 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: and after the way the COVID situation handled was handled 596 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: by a lot of these schools and conferences with no 597 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: real direction, I think guys that forever have never listened 598 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: might be willing to listen. And you know, I mentioned 599 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: the name m David Shaw to a source because three 600 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: years we've heard David Shaw will never leave Stanford. David 601 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve was was weird this year and Stanford 602 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: has not been good to last two years. Is this 603 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: the year David Shaw listens? The word I got back 604 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: was not probably not, But for the first time it 605 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: wasn't a slam dunk. No. Pat Fitzgerald and Northwestern who 606 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: you guys didn't mention who might be the number one 607 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: college candidate right now? He's got kids at are both 608 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: I think in high school at the moment. I think 609 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: the word I got was that he's gonna wait until 610 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: they're out of high school before he leaps. But like 611 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: when the Bears had or the packers of the vacancy 612 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: two years ago, in the hired of the floor, I 613 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: was told straight up no, like he will not leave Northwestern. 614 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: He's got a great situation there, so I think things 615 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: are opening him up. Matt Campbell not short horriball. I 616 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a market for horriball right now. 617 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: After the season Michigan's had and the third name was 618 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: Dabos Swete, I don't think he's leaving or Lincoln Riley 619 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: coworker Urban, Urban's fascinating. Urban's fascinating. He's been out of 620 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: this for a while. Um, you know you've been hearing 621 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers for a couple of years now and there, 622 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: and then recently Jacksonville has been coming up a bunch. 623 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: He's got a very good situation at Fox. I know 624 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: he's very happy there. They love him, and they they 625 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: believe their show is up there, if not better than 626 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: the one on ESPN. So like Urban is a huge 627 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: key cog to that and he's got a long future 628 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: with them. Question is the shot Khan or in this case, 629 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the Spano's family, or one of these teams or even 630 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: the Jets hand him the keys and say you're the 631 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: personnel guy, you're the coach, You hire whoever you want, 632 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: You've got unlimited budget, go for it, and does it 633 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: tickle Urban enough? To say, I gotta get one more 634 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: shot at this. I think Trevor Lawrence might play a 635 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: bigger role than any of these guys um as far 636 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: as the owners and everything, like, maybe Urban is tempted 637 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: by that and saying, all right, shot Khan, here's an 638 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: unlimited check, here's the freedom to bring in my own staff, 639 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: and I get the first overall pick. That might excite me, 640 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: But I will tell you he is happy at Fox 641 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: and they love him over there. I don't know if 642 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Fox could pay him with the Jacksonville Jaguars or the 643 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Jets of the Chargers can. But it's a much easier 644 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: life for Urban Meyer doing those Saturday hits and getting 645 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: pep talks into a computer screen worker. I think that's 646 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: a huge plus. That's a great I mean, that's probably 647 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: the biggest Perkal. Yeah, is there any coaches that are 648 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: back to the kind of the recycled ranks um in 649 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: the NFL Jim Caldwell, Bill Cowery than any of these guys, 650 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: uh that might pop up and have a serious chance 651 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: to get a job. The one name and you know, 652 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: I thought maybe Bill O'Brien would get another look. I 653 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: haven't heard much on him. Marvin Lewis apparently has a 654 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: lot more love in the league than has he already 655 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: interviewed with Houston was right. I believe he did. I 656 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: believe Ian and Mike reported that this weekend. Um and 657 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: it's not just hey, Marvin Lewis deserves an interview, has 658 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: been a coach for like things are beginning to reveal 659 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: themselves that gosh, Marvin Lewis took that team to the 660 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: playoffs with that limited budget, scouting staff and some of 661 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: the things that plague the Bengals historically to the playoffs 662 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: five years in a row and built a winner. And yeah, 663 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: they didn't win games, but like, there's a lot of 664 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: lessons to be learned from this season. And I think 665 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: having a leader of men, and that's such a roll 666 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: my eyes, because I think all these guys are leaders 667 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: of men, they wouldn't be getting where they are and 668 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: that they weren't. But like an authoritative voice with someone 669 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: with the skins on the wall, some of these teams, 670 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: after what has been going on over the last eighteen months, 671 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: might say, let's just hand over the keys to Marvin 672 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: because he can only can only coach football. But that's 673 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: an adult in the roof right, and he can hire 674 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: a good staff a lot of it to be excited 675 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: about that though lewis no, and I I don't feel 676 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: like it's an upbell battle. But you look around the 677 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: league and you see a lot of his assistants, you know, 678 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,719 Speaker 1: with coaching jobs and that that's that's part of it too, 679 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: that he he like has this for long. Rollodex, you 680 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: mentioned the thing about Foxes College show is maybe better 681 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: than ESPN. You know, you worked for Fox and and 682 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: it has gotten a lot of buzz this year that 683 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: and Reggie Bush is part of that show, and it 684 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: just occurred to me, how much do you think that 685 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: show doing well, um is directly related to the lessons 686 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: Reggie Bush learned while he did our digital show last year, 687 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL type digital. Yeah, I think those 688 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: I think those moments were memorable. And I think you know, 689 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: when he was lulling the opportunity to leave NFL Network 690 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: and to go to do Foxes Thursday night NFL coverage 691 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: and there Saturday UM football main show, I think it 692 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: was it was probably a difficult decision for him, UM, 693 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: but he certainly he certainly learned a lot from from 694 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: you guys. I mean the intriguing aspect of that, as 695 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: he said goodbye to none of us. But I just 696 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: think I think there was a lot of one day 697 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: that he was like one day he just wasn't there 698 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: for the show, but that wasn't totally out of character, 699 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: so it was like we didn't even know that he 700 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: was out of the company. I guess it is a 701 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: little weird for us to be expecting a Dear John 702 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: letter from Reggie Bush to two more things from me 703 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, and boys, feel free to try. 704 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: I want to go through my list. I want to 705 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: go through my names for you. You got more, let's 706 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: hear more. Let me rattle them off for you, because 707 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: here's what I've got. Honestly, this is my favorite thing 708 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: to do. Is supposed in addition to the draft, is 709 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: get the gossip on the coaching stuff, because I feel 710 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: like I'm as plugged in as anybody with this stuff. 711 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 1: And I talked to all the teams and a lot 712 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: of the agents of the country and it's sounded chest 713 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm pound of my chest. But it's this is like 714 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: the one niche like, I don't do injuries, well, I 715 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: don't do free agent signings. That well, but like the 716 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 1: coaching stuff. I love the machinations behind it. And I 717 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: talked to all the presidents and g ms, and you 718 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be really interesting. So I want to 719 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: go through some of the names and some of the 720 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: processes that are at stake here because I think this 721 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: is the most unique year that there is no slam 722 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: dunk candidate, Like I don't see that Josh m Josh 723 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: McDaniels in recent years when they're coming off another thing, 724 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, playoff things like oh, McDaniels is the hot name, 725 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: or Kyle Shanahan took this team to the super Bowl, 726 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: like the enemy is he the hot name? I feel 727 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: like he was around last year and I was gonna 728 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: get another opportunity, and I do believe he will get 729 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: one of these jobs. But I don't see teams jumping 730 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: up and down or fan bases jumping up and down 731 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: saying gosh, even as good as they've been, I just 732 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: don't feel the buzz around the Enemy this year as 733 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: I did last year. I think Eric's gonna be a 734 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: premier candidate. I think Robert Sala the defensive corona for 735 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: the forty niners. Everyone is linking him to Detroit because 736 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: he's got Detroit connections and he went to Michigan State 737 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: or he got a graduates degree from Michigan State, and 738 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: he grew up two miles from the Lions facility, and 739 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: both his parents still live in that town, which is 740 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: I believe, dear Field, Michigan. And so there's a lot 741 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: of like local routs there. But I think Sale could 742 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: get some offers from other teams, and then it's his 743 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 1: decision what he wants to do. So Sala b Enemy 744 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: are two big names they blew up in Buffalo is 745 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: a big name. Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator for the Titans, 746 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: is getting a lot of buzz right now. And those 747 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: are like the main guys. And I don't know if 748 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: any fan base is doing flip, Like if you're a 749 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: Jets fan, are you like, oh my god, we have 750 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: a chance to get Arthur Smith. Nothing against Arthur Smith, 751 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: but like it doesn't feel like there's that home run 752 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: And I don't even know if Urban Meyer does it 753 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: for fansies like Meyer's many years removed from college football, 754 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: let alone never done it in the pros. Like, I 755 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: don't know if there's that home run pick that everyone 756 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: is like, oh, we got the guy. Yeah, it doesn't 757 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: seem like there's that the high sex appeal guy. I 758 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know if that it makes sense. Like if Dennis 759 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: Allen is the head coach of say the Chargers next year, 760 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: like our Chargers fans like, oh my god, let's go 761 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: that Dennis Allen era, you know what I mean, Like 762 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: there's nothing against these guys. Allen could get hired, then 763 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Sala could get hired defensive coordinator, the same. They had 764 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: a great year this year, look like Sean McDermott and 765 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:05,959 Speaker 1: the Bills last year. I think a lot of people 766 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: thought that was a solid higher when it happened, and 767 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: now you look at it four years later, it's like, 768 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: oh my god, what a home run. So I think 769 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: if you're if your team is looking for a head coach, 770 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: don't give up hope because there isn't that slam dunk guy. 771 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm talking to myself as much as I'm 772 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: talking to me. I'll give you a name. I'll give 773 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: you a name because Dan, I know you're invested in 774 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: one team, um specifically, and I think they're gonna be 775 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: a really interesting situation. They probably don't have Trevor Lawrence. 776 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: Let's just assume they don't. So there's not that giant 777 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: carrot there. Um, they've had years of you know, just 778 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: unsuccessful no playoffs in aptitude if you want whatever it is. 779 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: Does a name like Wink Martindale, the defensive coordinator of 780 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens, who's in his sixties or late fifties, but 781 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: it's like a super high energy beloved guy, Like does 782 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: that get you? Like I don't know what the Jets 783 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: fan even wants at this point. Yeah, that no, I 784 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: like Wink Martindale, that would be a shrug your shoulders higher, 785 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis would be a panic higher at least the 786 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: fan base would look at it that way. Um, yeah, 787 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it. Jim Harbor like there 788 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: are as you know, Pete, the the Johnson family has 789 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: danced around Jim in the past, and I just wonder 790 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: if they're gonna want to make a splash higher and 791 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: go after Harbaugh and that I feel like has a 792 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: boom bust reward at a high level. Yeah, the the 793 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: wild card like dazzling, like oh, higher might be if 794 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: someone was to actually bring in Joe Brady who's thirty 795 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: years old. Um, but I don't think the Panthers did 796 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 1: enough for me to be like, yes, that's the guy 797 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: you all like. And then the other one is the 798 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator out in Los Angeles, Brandon Stanley, who's thirty eight. 799 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: He's not thirty, but last year he was an outside 800 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: linebackers coach, and now you're saying, okay, well he ran 801 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: the best defense in the league with the Rams. It's 802 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: such an interesting year. And we didn't even start talking 803 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 1: about the gm S, which well, I want to yet 804 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: tell me about Riddick if nothing else, like how I'm 805 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: just fascinated that, And they didn't mention it once on 806 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: the broad even when the team's come up. You gotta 807 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: mention it. Interview today, we asked him, were like, Scott, 808 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: you interviewed for the Lions job. What was it like? 809 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: Like you have to ask what do you he He's 810 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: interviewed for at least two jobs? Was it three? I 811 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know? Um, do you think he has a legit 812 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: shot to get one of these? Yes? It was an 813 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: interesting deal this year because they're doing it over zoom, 814 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: so like you know, you come in and you're sitting 815 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: on a zoom for several hours and you know, take 816 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: the Detroit one for example. He's got the owner in 817 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: one box, he's got Chris Spielman in another box, and 818 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: he's like, you know, it's tough, like it's on zoom 819 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: or you're really good at presenting over zoom and you 820 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: can do it and you've had practice at it. It's 821 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: really weird, and it's you know, it's a difference between being, 822 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: in some guys cases, making six figures to making you know, 823 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: mid seven figures in some of these GM positions. So 824 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: it's a huge life opportunity and a huge, huge leap 825 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: for some of these GM candidates. Back to Ridick, though, 826 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: I've heard he interviewed really well at a couple of places. Um, 827 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: I think he's got a good shot this year. There's 828 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: gonna be six seven openings. I think he's got a 829 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: good shot this year. Um. And it's as good as 830 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,759 Speaker 1: shot he's had this year than he's had in any 831 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: of the years prior. How long till Daniel Jeremiah is 832 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: a general manager? I mean his name has been thrown 833 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,720 Speaker 1: around here and there. I mean, is it it seems 834 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: like star rising on that front? You laugh? I mean absolutely, 835 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: If DJ wanted one of these jobs. He would be 836 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: a top candidate because he exemplifies it every day and 837 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: he lives and breeds it, and he's actually plugged into 838 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's more than just a guy who does 839 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: the draft. The fact he does those Chargers games might 840 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: seem like a nothing Sunday thing, but like he's he's 841 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: the league. He's the league in person, like he gets it, 842 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: and he's got a great track record. If Daniel wanted 843 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: to leave the NFL network to do that, I think 844 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: there would be a lot of teams willing to listen. 845 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: So far, all the things that I've heard, and he 846 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: actually came out last year, I think it was, like 847 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm staying, like there's been rumors, but I'm staying. I 848 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: think it was to be an assistant to Joe Douglas 849 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: in the Jets. That's when he came out and said that. Um, 850 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: I think he's made it pretty clear he's happy with 851 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: where he is at the moment. At the very least, 852 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: he should leverage all this knowledge into starting a podcast 853 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: or something. I think he right again, you ever tried that? 854 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: Any other names you want to throw out there people 855 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: before bringing in for a landing here? Yeah, GM is 856 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting and the team I would circle, Um, 857 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: that could be fascinating for for this group of specifically. 858 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, for years, the GM position is the best 859 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: scout in the building, or the best player personnel guy, 860 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: or the guy who just you know, grinds on the 861 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: college tape. There was no real traveling for college football 862 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: for any of these there the pastor yeah you gotta 863 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: get him in there. Yeah, but um, he's not the 864 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: GM by the way, I actually I actually want to 865 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 1: do a great defense of Jack Easterby. I feel like 866 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: someone brought his name up and just interrupted. You just 867 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: got buried by everybody, and it was like poor Easterby. 868 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: I don't know at all. I don't even know. I 869 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: never met him personally, but it's like you found your 870 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: whipping boy media and it's like, all right, let's go. 871 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: Um right, it's says player that you know, have you 872 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: been by someone in our company to stop discussing him? 873 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: So I've been silence, so he you know there's someone 874 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: somewhere sensitive about it. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean 875 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 1: that guy. Whatever, Um, I would look I don't know. 876 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I would look to the Carolina Panthers and just the 877 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: way Tepper does business. You mentioned, I don't think you're 878 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna get a run in the mill Higher, And if 879 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: you do, it's because that run of the mill Higher. 880 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: And I don't mean to dismiss whoever they end up 881 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: do hiring um if it is because he impressed Tepper 882 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: and blew him away in the interview. I just think 883 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: the way David Tepper does business, and I've got to 884 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: know him fairly well. Not we haven't talked about like 885 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: the general manager position or anything, but like he views 886 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: this as as as a competitive environment where he is. 887 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to he's a killer. I mean he's 888 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: a killer on Wall Street. This is a guy who 889 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: looks at things and says, how's everyone else doing it? 890 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: How can they disrupt there? How can I be asymmetric? 891 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it done with the rule Higher. Everyone 892 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: thought he was going to the giants. He's like, he's 893 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: not leaving the house that he lives in if I 894 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: get there first, and he didn't. He paid him the 895 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: most and convinced him to bring all his staff, and 896 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: you have it. The GM higher is not gonna be 897 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: all right. Here's the best player personnel guy, the GM 898 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: higher for the Carolina Panthers is going to be very 899 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 1: well vetted and is going to have to earn that position. 900 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be shocked if they did something that 901 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 1: is a little bit spin this league on its head 902 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: because new CB a lower salary cap and the draft 903 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: is a crap shoot anyway. And this guy, he he's 904 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: not doing this because his family's family's family has passed 905 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: this onto him, and he doesn't want to upset the 906 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: fan base. He's already fired Ron Rivera and cut Cam Newton. 907 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 1: I think the Panthers fans are like, whatever this guy does, 908 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: I guess at the time being, we'll have to believe 909 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: in it. And so far, I think that Matt rule 910 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: Hire was the right call. So I'm fascinated. Is the 911 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: first non you know, football coach higher for for David Tepper, 912 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: and I'm really interested to see who he picks to 913 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: run this organization as far as rosters go. Awesome insight 914 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: as always from the great Peter Schraeger. And before you go, Pete, 915 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: it was about eighteen months ago. I'm gonna say that 916 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: you made I think it was your first appearance on 917 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: the show, but the first one where we were all together. 918 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: The pool side pod at the NFL Media Talent Summit. 919 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: Has anything changed on this front? You can keep it 920 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: to one word. When you look around the circle here 921 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: at the four of us, which one do you respect 922 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 1: the US? Greg? Which one do you respect them? Us? 923 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 1: Which one do you respect the most? Greg? Greg? I 924 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: love all you guys equally. I love Wes, I love 925 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 1: love Ricky Hollywood. I love all you guys equally. You're 926 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: all You're all equal to me. Only one of you, though, 927 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 1: was on the weakest link that I happened to be fun. 928 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what was happening, was watching the television, 929 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 1: showed up and then a day later it's like, here's 930 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: Mina Kimes winning someone a million bucks. I'm like, I 931 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: don't Mina Kimes needs more love. Let's give Erica some love. Here. 932 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: She was on actual show. It was great. Thanks Pete 933 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: means a lot. You've got a supreme hoodie on. You're 934 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,799 Speaker 1: like you got swag. Yeah, I love you. Yeah, you know. 935 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because it wasn't just that 936 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: Mina who Who's great? Uh? It wasn't just that she 937 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: um was honest another game show, it was responsible for 938 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: the million dollar winner. And then for Ricky Hollywood, she's 939 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: doing her best, she gets savaged by I thought unfair 940 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: questions allowing the worst player in their history, the weakest link, 941 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: to be victorious. It just it just it didn't feel 942 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: fair ultimately for Ricky. And it's like Jane Lynch was 943 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: not all that warm or nice. Like there was a 944 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: lot of things that I had problems with, um Mina 945 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: Kimes helping out millions of small restaurants and maybe keeping 946 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: hundreds of small businesses alive. That might be for some people, 947 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: that might be some people's thing. I was more into 948 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 1: the weakest link. And uh, what we saw from our 949 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: friend who works on this show awesome unders animal did it? Pete? 950 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for giving us your time. You're very busy man, 951 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: and congratulations every Thursday night football telecast this year Hackman 952 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: singing your praises you and the entire show that is 953 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: a thrill as well. Can I make a request for 954 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow when you're on Good Morning Football? And this be like, 955 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: can I get a Can I get an album cover 956 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: from you? Can I? If I have it, you have 957 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: to have it. I was gonna request the Cars, Rico 958 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: Kersik and the Boys, anything from the cars. Okay, maybe 959 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: not tomorrow, but I am absolutely gonna work on that. 960 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 1: Let me know which album you're thinking of as well. Okay, 961 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: I can go rushwork. Could you replace it with the 962 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 1: Hanson brother Hans is great, Yes, the middle middle of nowhere. 963 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:51,359 Speaker 1: The middle of nowhere, I believe, Oh there he goes 964 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: shrag bomb. Great guest. He's one of our best guests 965 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: because Pete here, I think, you know, we'll get ten 966 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: twelve minutes with Peter. He's the dig in. He wants 967 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: to go deeper. I try to bring it in for 968 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: a landing, and he said, oh no, no, no, I 969 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: got a lot more to get to. And uh, I 970 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,479 Speaker 1: feel like we're all smarter and more prepared for Black 971 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: Monday as a result. Yeah. I also thought that it 972 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: was It's pretty clear that I'm not gonna say that 973 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: Greg's lost esteem in in Peter's eyes, but the rest 974 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: of us um have clearly been raised up to some degree. 975 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 1: He I thought his answer that he respects us equally 976 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: was honest and use when he gave it. It's when 977 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,000 Speaker 1: he gave an actually honest answer before he's gotten in 978 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,279 Speaker 1: trouble for it, he's gotten grief. You guys can it's 979 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: eighteen months ago. The world was a totally different place. 980 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: It would be easier to respect Greg eighteen months ago. 981 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: Things have changed, you know. It is there are parallels 982 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: to the chiefs and the bills. Greg's the chiefs with 983 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: Sreegor and who he respects. But here we are just 984 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: firing up the power rensings and now the gap has 985 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: been narrowed, it seems, and perhaps Greg will get overtaken. 986 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: Just keep an eye on it, all right, all right, 987 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: things have changed since we were pool side at that villa. 988 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: That's for sure. And that's for sure. Um, alright. I 989 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: also after that day, had like thirty five days off. UM. 990 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: I run by there fairly often. And do think of 991 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: that moment where Straeger was wrapping a towel around the microphone. 992 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: If we ever done an unsolved mystery, uh, you know 993 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: with this show, I wanted to be about Traeger wrapping 994 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 1: the microphone with the towel. I remember after it ended, 995 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 1: I said, Erica, what why? What was happening with that? 996 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: And uh, it was just a total mystery, total mystery. 997 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I'm excited, No, I'm excited. 998 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: I love power rankings. I love ranking things. I love 999 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 1: when Greg gets passionate about the booth and who he 1000 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: likes and who he doesn't like. It's a major topic offline, 1001 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,080 Speaker 1: on text and in conversation. And uh, you know Sessler, 1002 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: you know he's he's got his sardonic wit. And when 1003 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: you could weaponize that into a listical excited me. I'm 1004 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: just gonna I just made a tactical decision here not 1005 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: to have my own list. I don't have to worry 1006 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: about anybody coming up to me at a coach's breakfast. 1007 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: I prefer to sit back and just watch the inferno. Man, 1008 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: I just want to watch the world. But it's not 1009 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: an I see what you've done here. No, in all seriousness, 1010 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: this is all done with respect. We're not trying to 1011 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: destroy people here, of course. Right, Well, that's the thing. 1012 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: The other week we're arguing about, you know, the the 1013 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: booth and thinking about play by play, and it's part 1014 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 1: of that. It was more talking about, like, this is 1015 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: the hardest job in sports being play by play guy. 1016 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: I think on an NFL game, play by playing in general, 1017 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: But you know, NFL is our area. I'm totally with you. 1018 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 1: In fact, we are, I guess on some level quote 1019 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,200 Speaker 1: unquote broadcasters. We're talking to a mic for a living, 1020 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: and I marvel at how these guys do with the 1021 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: play by play. Dudes to be just the reek call 1022 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: to know who just fell down in pursuit on the 1023 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,240 Speaker 1: defensive line, who came out of nowhere to make the tackle? 1024 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: Which slot receiver or wait a second, was that the 1025 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: guy on the outside who came across the middle and 1026 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: made that catch. The guys that are really good. The 1027 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: way they can do it without missing a beat is 1028 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 1: something that is I mean, I would be in a 1029 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: nervous panic. I love football a whole bunch, but if 1030 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: it was like we've got a thorny like rough situation 1031 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: with eighteen seconds left to go and people all over, 1032 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: I would run out of the booth and I would 1033 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: run to my car and drive home. I'd love I'd 1034 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: love to see. So yeah, we're we're like understand, we're 1035 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: understanding that. But then again you think about it and 1036 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: you're like, well, you're stepping into the arena and these 1037 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: guys are are talking about who's a better quarterback, who's 1038 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: the better wide receiver, They're criticizing the head coach at times. 1039 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: Maybe that's not play by play guy as much. But 1040 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: it's like, if you're gonna step into the arena, you 1041 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: you gotta it's a high standard. And when we were 1042 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: arguing in particular, you know, about Monday night and I 1043 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,359 Speaker 1: and I would and I've got my opinions, and I thought, well, 1044 00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: it'll only be fair, you know, if you're gonna say this, like, 1045 00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,759 Speaker 1: all right, let's actually rank them. Let's let's make a 1046 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: list of the play by play guys. And we watch 1047 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: a lot of game pass or you do it on shortcuts, 1048 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: I know, Mark, And so it's like I'm hearing these 1049 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: guys every week, and so you you form opinions. And 1050 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: I decided, okay, I put it on paper about fifty. 1051 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: I just looked, who are the fifteen play by play 1052 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: guys the previous weekend? And I just you know, put 1053 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: them down one to fifteen for my for myself, I 1054 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: did not think this is gonna be a you know, 1055 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: a pod bit, but I just wanted to see how, 1056 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: I how it s took up. I think it makes 1057 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: for good conversation. If it makes for good conversation, then 1058 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: why not say it on the show. But I don't 1059 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: understand why you need to take a shot at Mark 1060 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 1: there and say he takes shortcuts that I mean this 1061 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: guy he puts in the work. You could hear when 1062 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 1: he analyzes football. It's called the direct TV shortcuts. Just 1063 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: that Mark prefers that over the game pass version. Well 1064 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,839 Speaker 1: we could get into that another time. I will not 1065 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: beliebor it, but they do something that game pass editors 1066 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: have chosen not to do often. Let's put it okay, 1067 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: here we go to sight down. Let's start with the 1068 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,880 Speaker 1: play by play guys. Then we're gonna move to the 1069 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: Sessler list, And how do you want to do? Greg, 1070 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it would be better to start with the when 1071 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: So this you're essentially basing this off Week sixteen. Who 1072 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,840 Speaker 1: we saw, who we heard? I want to start at 1073 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: the bottom list or make our way up. Um no, 1074 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,680 Speaker 1: let's start at the top. I don't know because I 1075 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: don't want to. Like you heard Straeger being diplomatic on 1076 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,480 Speaker 1: the last segment and you're like, wait a second, I 1077 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: need because the top is the top is more interesting 1078 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 1: to me. And frankly, more people are gonna know who 1079 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about their or have opinions, and and after 1080 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: the top six or so, there was a lot of 1081 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: blending blending in. But I had I had to go 1082 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: Joe Buck number one, Mike Tarico number two, and Kevin 1083 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: Harland three, al Michael's for I mean, I'm just good. 1084 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: I want to break. This is the top teen. I 1085 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,239 Speaker 1: in Eagle five and Nance six, and to me, those 1086 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: are the big six and I've got You know, they're 1087 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,359 Speaker 1: all great, and you could argue any one of them 1088 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: should be higher or lower. Right, that is my six 1089 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: have one. Yeah, Tariko would be one if he had 1090 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,720 Speaker 1: more starts. But availability, you know, it's not his fault, um, 1091 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,160 Speaker 1: but availability is a trait here, and he's not giving me. 1092 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,959 Speaker 1: He's not out there enough. I'm getting bucked twice a week. 1093 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting Tariko, you know, a handful of times every year. 1094 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: So he would have been one because he's got the 1095 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: he does the things that bother me the most in 1096 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: the ones that are towards the bottom of the list, Tarrico. 1097 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: A command of the rules. A command of the rules 1098 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,919 Speaker 1: is very important to me. And you don't think Rico 1099 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: has that as much. No, I think he does. I 1100 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: think he's number one. That's what I'm saying. Is like 1101 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: the command of the rules, a command of the players 1102 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 1: and the coaches, the personnel, like knowing everything and being 1103 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: able to paint that picture. And of course all these 1104 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: guys at the top have a sense of the moment, 1105 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: you know, they have a sense of what matters and 1106 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: painting the picture and all that stuff. But that's where 1107 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: Tariko is amazing. But yeah, Joe, Joe, Buck and Troy, 1108 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: I think they'd be my number one group right now. Yeah, 1109 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: so you got bucket number one, which is I think 1110 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: how to deny five years ago? Even I feel like 1111 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 1: there would be a lot of pushback on that because 1112 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 1: there's people didn't always like Buck and thought he maybe 1113 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,759 Speaker 1: come off, came off as a little smug um. But 1114 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: I think there has been a general greater appreciation for him. 1115 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. Tariko too well. We 1116 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,359 Speaker 1: love Trico on the show. Harlan I like a lot, 1117 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: not just because he's a pro and he's been on 1118 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,000 Speaker 1: our show and he's a great dude, but to be 1119 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: able to do TV and radio and do it as 1120 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: well as he does, that's that's something. What do you think, 1121 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,400 Speaker 1: mark Um? I mean, my list is very close to 1122 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: Greg's with one major oldio. I was asking because I 1123 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 1: want to hear more about No No, I'm talking about 1124 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,359 Speaker 1: play by play. I'm talking about Greg's list, my my 1125 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 1: play My number one play guy is Kevin Harland. I 1126 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: put Harland like squarely number one for me because I 1127 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: think because number one you mentioned it doing radio, I 1128 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,080 Speaker 1: was just counting. I'm counting TV. But that's fair. I 1129 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: mean you could you could tell Harland has maybe more 1130 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,600 Speaker 1: fun than anyone else. I did rank Color guys, but 1131 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: I have an opinion on play by Are you asking 1132 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: for that? Are you? I asked, Okay, I do want 1133 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on everything, Mark, But are you 1134 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: saying that you made a list for play by play guys, 1135 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: because I did on my own, but I did the 1136 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 1: presentations of the color commentators. The list of record for 1137 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,680 Speaker 1: today's podcast is Greg's play by play your Color. So 1138 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: I just I want those segments to be able to 1139 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,720 Speaker 1: be clear and concise to the listener. If you also 1140 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: have a play by playlist, I just need to know 1141 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: that as host, and then I'll adapt that way. I 1142 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: am simply saying that I thought Greg's list was pristine, 1143 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: minus one change that I would pack. You'd put harlet 1144 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: Chard stuff. Well, we've we've we've we've blown past concise 1145 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 1: um and look Al's in all time great uh He's 1146 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 1: in an interesting spot with another all time great in 1147 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: the same building as Uh Tariko, so he you know, 1148 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: I still love listening to an eagle, very underrated and 1149 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: nance like, you know, it's not my like favorite flavor 1150 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: of tea. You know, you've got your different flavors, but 1151 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,120 Speaker 1: then your vineyard but tops man, but top self. You know, 1152 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: a quality you feel like you're watching a big game. 1153 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time with him. It's all good. 1154 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: M That's why al Michael's for me is still um 1155 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: number one. Even though he is up there in age. 1156 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,439 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a slippage that maybe you guys see. 1157 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 1: And when I hear Al Michael's on the mic and 1158 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: this goes back to being a man of a certain 1159 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,440 Speaker 1: age now, it's like, Okay, this is good. That's why 1160 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,720 Speaker 1: I love you know, even though we're at the game's 1161 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,320 Speaker 1: not a humble brag, just the truth. So we're not 1162 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 1: hearing the super Bowl telecasts like most people like. If 1163 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 1: I know that Al, Chris and Michelle are on the game, 1164 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's the number one super Bowl team 1165 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:42,120 Speaker 1: I want. But opinions very obviously with Al at this 1166 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,279 Speaker 1: state of his career and he and he loves it. 1167 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: He loves I think he loves all sports. But that 1168 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 1: is that's a big part of sort of separating out 1169 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: this top tier. Like Harlan, you can just Harlan, you 1170 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: can just tell love sports. That goes along along with me. Tariko. 1171 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: Beneath all the intelligence and like knowledge, you can out 1172 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,120 Speaker 1: how much he loves it. He's just like a sports 1173 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: junkie totally. Alright, what let's sear the bottom half of 1174 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,279 Speaker 1: I want to share with us Greg, and then I 1175 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: want to hear Mark's Color guys list. All right, I'm 1176 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,120 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna go go through it this middle tiers. 1177 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to separate them all, but I'm 1178 00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 1: going the next time going Kenny Albert, Kevin Coogler, I 1179 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: mean on Adam Amina on Fox all really good. Joe 1180 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,240 Speaker 1: Davis is good, Andrew Catalan, We're getting to Steve Levy 1181 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 1: Monday Night, Spirit Adidas, Greg Gumbles, and Chris Myers rounds 1182 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: out the list right there. I want to see I 1183 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: got it out of you. That's good. He got Myers 1184 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,280 Speaker 1: buried in last place. You got Steve Levy way too low. 1185 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 1: Steve should be higher. In my opinion, the rising star 1186 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: for me is Kevin Coogler. I thought he did great 1187 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: work uh this past week. I I texted you guys 1188 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: about it. He was as sharp as sharp as attack. 1189 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: In fact, that was when I was just saying why 1190 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,200 Speaker 1: I admire good play by play so much? I was 1191 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: I was really impressed by how quick he was UH 1192 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: and being spot on every time there was um a 1193 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 1: play happening, or a skirmish or a guy missed the tackle. 1194 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: He knew every time in the moment who it was. 1195 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: Coogler a rising star for me. Your thoughts, UM, I 1196 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm very I know Greg and I've talked about UM 1197 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: these things so much that I have some shared UM. 1198 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: I have shared feelings about who's near the bottom, and 1199 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: I think the lack of There are people that are 1200 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: into football and there's some that I think are just 1201 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 1: play by play people on a contract, and there is 1202 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: a difference between these types. I have no argument. I 1203 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: would put Steve Levy a little bit higher because I thought, 1204 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, put into a challenging position, he's gotten better, UM, 1205 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't put him a lot higher. I think 1206 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: that your your list is is cool with me. Well, 1207 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,560 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Yeah, a lot of the other guys 1208 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 1: are played by play guys for everything. You know, That's 1209 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: what they've been doing their whole life. That's what they've 1210 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: been trained to do. And there are, I think are 1211 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,280 Speaker 1: some technical parts of the job that it has to 1212 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 1: do with rules and and knowing the player and everything 1213 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: that part of your mind. Some guys like Joe Davis, 1214 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: who's getting a lot of popping at Fox, is the 1215 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: MLB number two guy behind Joe Duck. He's definite at 1216 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,200 Speaker 1: Joe Buck. He's definitely a rising star at Fox, can 1217 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 1: just slide into football, which is maybe not even his 1218 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: main sport, and they just like they got a handle 1219 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,280 Speaker 1: on it, you know, they gotta hand. Yeah. I like 1220 00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 1: him a lot of think he's got a lot of ability. 1221 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: And Greg, maybe you will tell us at some point 1222 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: what happened with you and Steve Levy. Maybe he goes 1223 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: back to your p f T. Was there something you 1224 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: wrote a p f T that has created this issue. 1225 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: It feels personal, It feels like a little score settling. Man, 1226 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: I just want to watch. It's not it's respect for 1227 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: all these other guys doing it, and that he's in 1228 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: a big that's where I'm talking about the spotlight. It's 1229 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's on that Monday night football game, and 1230 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: so you know the rules, the rules. I keep handing 1231 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: hammering that, like the situation that two minute like promptier 1232 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: guy to talk about the like this fourth down call 1233 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,479 Speaker 1: that's coming up instead of like with three seconds before 1234 01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: it happens to be like, oh and they're going for 1235 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: it on fourth. You know, those are the little things 1236 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: that I noticed. All right, that's fair. Let's now move 1237 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: to the color side of things. Mark, give us a 1238 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: let's start with your top three. Give us your top three, 1239 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,480 Speaker 1: my top three. And I think that this job is 1240 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: a little bit different obviously than play by play, and 1241 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there's many good ones. I'll start there, 1242 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: but um, top three, Troy Aikman, Uh. Second to Troy Aikman, 1243 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Chris collins Worth number three for me, okay, 1244 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 1: this is a good This is a good start because 1245 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: right off the bat, I knew you would have Troy first. 1246 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I know you love Aikman. Um, I think Romo is 1247 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 1: the best personally, but Aikman is very close to one B. 1248 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 1: So I'm cool with your list. And Collinsworth geez. I 1249 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: love collins Worth too. Just going back to my original 1250 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: thoughts about it's a big game with Alan Chris or 1251 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: behind the mic. But I can't really quibble too much 1252 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: of your list. That's a nice start, I was. I'm 1253 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,920 Speaker 1: with you too, And I think Aikman is uh Tony 1254 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Romo is my like he's my Patrick Mahome is where 1255 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: he he is the best. But for this season, this 1256 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 1: is like Troy Aikman's you know, rich gannon m v 1257 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: P year or yeah, I should think of someone even 1258 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 1: better than that, you know, like Russell, like like I 1259 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: take I take Romo to build the franchise. But I 1260 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 1: think Aikman is the m v P this year. What 1261 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: a year alright? So that that feels like mark the 1262 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: clear like top three guys, who's in the who's in 1263 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: that middle tier? For me? I I go number four. 1264 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: I had Charles Davis. Um. There's something that I really 1265 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: like about Charles Davis. I think that he has um. 1266 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,640 Speaker 1: He kind of knows where every player went to high 1267 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,840 Speaker 1: school and college, has a lot of added extra um. 1268 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I think information that other guys don't. I think he's 1269 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: technically good, like he's good observations and I you know, 1270 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 1: we know him personally, and I think he's he's someone 1271 01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: that puts in a ton of work, so I and 1272 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: for me, that's for this thing gets messy for me 1273 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: because I don't have a like a huge fascination and 1274 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: some of these other guys, but this guys barely appeared. 1275 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: But I think Nate Burlison could be better than almost 1276 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: anyone on this list based on the few games I've 1277 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: seen him do. UM. I had him as like a 1278 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,800 Speaker 1: potential number five. I go and Dan, this is I'm 1279 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,640 Speaker 1: not doing this to serve you. Um at number six 1280 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: a dish that you will like. But I think Brian 1281 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Greasy has improved over the course of the season tremendously 1282 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: and there's something else that that three man booth is not. 1283 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't think three man booths really work. I think 1284 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: that they keep trying to recreate magic from the past, 1285 01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 1: and I think it drowns out Lewis Riddick a little bit, 1286 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: who I think could be great if the table is 1287 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: set for him. Um. He may be not a booth 1288 01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,000 Speaker 1: guy as much, but Greasy has worked really hard to 1289 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 1: build chemistry in that booth, and I think he's shaken 1290 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: off a little bit of his inability to critique last night, 1291 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I thought he critiqued. Um. You know, in the last 1292 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 1: couple of games, he's been a little a little bit 1293 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: of a heavier hammer on things which I needed from him. 1294 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I think he has had a nice season. 1295 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 1: Oh we're all I thought, you know, I think he 1296 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: speaks with confidence and I was admiring his work yesterday 1297 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: as well. I think he's good. Um, I think Moose 1298 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Johnson is still should be in that second here. I 1299 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 1: kind of like the Moose. What I think Burkhard and 1300 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,880 Speaker 1: Moose with Pam Oliver is a really solid team. I 1301 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: think he should be in that. That's my list. This 1302 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,439 Speaker 1: is reminding me of Dr Z Paul Zimmerman. I used 1303 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: to do a yearly rankings of all the broadcast teams, 1304 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,240 Speaker 1: and like they all hated him because of it basically 1305 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: like you know, I mean the ones that he liked, 1306 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: Like he always was big on Ron Pitts, so like 1307 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,439 Speaker 1: Ron Pitts loved him. Um, but like yeah, he would 1308 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: like he would give them like zero out of five 1309 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,440 Speaker 1: stars and pretty I think he hated the early like 1310 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: Bucking Akevid like he would bury them with like one star. 1311 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's what I want to get to and 1312 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,919 Speaker 1: as I keep getting um, keep getting older. Is really 1313 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 1: not care when these people hate you because they because 1314 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: everyone cares. They don't. There isn't a lot of criticism 1315 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,000 Speaker 1: of these guys because everyone's like not criticism, but there's 1316 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 1: not a lot of ranking of these guys because everyone 1317 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,960 Speaker 1: works with them and you don't want to deal with 1318 01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: But you know what, Greg, I think one way to 1319 01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: look at is like we take criticism too, not on 1320 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: the scale of these guys, but on social media and 1321 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: things of that nature. I mean, what we do for 1322 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,720 Speaker 1: a living. So but I will say that Trent Green, 1323 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: having Trent Green and rich Gannon in our lives feels duplicative. 1324 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna you know, Gannon is much higher 1325 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: for me. I think Gannon's fine. I kind of like 1326 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 1: rich Gannon, He's fine. Just what do you think, Mark, 1327 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: anybody else you want to talk about? Is there somebody 1328 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: that you really don't need to hear? You don't want 1329 01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,919 Speaker 1: on a Browns game just say that the next little 1330 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: quick tire was Darryl Johnston, rich Gannon. Um, And for me, 1331 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: it moves into you know, for me, it's it's like 1332 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: I need to feel the chemistry between the play by 1333 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 1: playing the color commentator and in a lot of the 1334 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: lower groupings, to me are just still early slate games 1335 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: that don't UM change my feeling one way or the other. 1336 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 1: Games Loft in Trent Green are probably rounding out my list. 1337 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure they put in a ton of work. I 1338 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: think that part of describing football, what we've learned through 1339 01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: some of these teams is just because you played. UM. 1340 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: The ability to communicate what is happening UM and and 1341 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: to teach fans who are savvier than ever UM is 1342 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 1: a skill. And I think some of the guys that 1343 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: are lower on the list they're developing these skills, but um, 1344 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 1: you can't. I don't know. I just feel like there's 1345 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 1: there's some of these people that feel a little folksy, 1346 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 1: a little basic, and um, I need to be delighted, 1347 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 1: I said. I think I think like and then from 1348 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of my list, like I did, like you know, 1349 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,280 Speaker 1: Mark Slayreth, James lofton Trent Green, they know more than 1350 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: I do about football, But um, I'm not learning from 1351 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 1: them the same way on Sundays and I don't need 1352 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: to know that on third and eleven. You need twelve yards. 1353 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 1: That part I get, well that you know that that's 1354 01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: really um yeah, just saying thing is that like are are? 1355 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: But that's it's just their person you know. Sometimes it's 1356 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 1: just the personality. It's one. It's one reason why I 1357 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,440 Speaker 1: love the Vilma Jonathan Vilma and Kenny Albert Booth. Jonathan 1358 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Vilma like he's not as technically polished. I think it 1359 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: was his first full year, but he loves it and 1360 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 1: he loves defensive football in such a way that most 1361 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,920 Speaker 1: of the color guys I think are offensive and it's 1362 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: almost all he talks about his defense. And he's just 1363 01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,880 Speaker 1: so fired up and it's so excited when things happen 1364 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: that that carries me. I love that booth. I love 1365 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 1: the Charles Davis and I an Eagle booth, and that's 1366 01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of the that's maybe one of the problems, and 1367 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 1: it's unfair, but it's like Monday night football, you're out 1368 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: an island and stuff. If I'm thinking of that, other 1369 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 1: networks have better, Uh, their number two booth is better 1370 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: than than your prime time booth, like an Ian Eagle 1371 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,800 Speaker 1: Charles Davis booth, which is pristine. And then then you know, 1372 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 1: I like that like four times a telecast, Jonathan Vilma 1373 01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 1: says something that makes Kenny Albert deeply uncomfortable. Like I 1374 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 1: give bonus points for that. Like he's a little loose 1375 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: with his lips, Jonathan Vilma, and he'll he'll say certain 1376 01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: things that you don't hear, and I think that's good 1377 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: to keep to leave. He he is a guy that 1378 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 1: got a lot of buzz both ways on social media. 1379 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: He's kind of a prospect to watch. And a little 1380 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: shout out to Kurt Warner, who does really good stuff 1381 01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:17,440 Speaker 1: of when Warner and Tariko are together. That's that's another one. 1382 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I love Kurt Warner on games. He is one. And 1383 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,840 Speaker 1: it's not because we work with him. I mean he 1384 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,400 Speaker 1: is so he is. That's another one. It's like, Okay, 1385 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: put that one in print. I kind of I kind 1386 01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: of forgot about that because he's he's strictly radio, but um, 1387 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: it's fit funny to me because I think he shines, 1388 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: absolutely shines on radio as a color commentator and then 1389 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,160 Speaker 1: you put these guys on on sets to talk generally 1390 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: about games, and it was a little bit less of 1391 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner for me, Like he's so much better analyzing 1392 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: the game as it's happening. It's a really special skill 1393 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: and you have to have the right personality and flair 1394 01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: all right. Now, again, if anyone is listening to the 1395 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: show that is directly connected to today's analysis, Uh, it 1396 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 1: came from Greg Rosenthal and Mark Sessler and you can 1397 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,480 Speaker 1: reach out to them on Twitter. And also they are 1398 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 1: once we get out of this pandemic. Uh, they are 1399 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: at most of the tent Pole League events at well 1400 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 1: as well. Feel free to address any concerns. And ultimately, 1401 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: small men compared to the average I mean, especially especially 1402 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: me physically physically. Yes, they may think it's the other 1403 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: way as well, based on some of the shooting behind 1404 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: bulletproof glass. But listen, it's it's just part of the gig. Well, 1405 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to be, you know, at the top 1406 01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: of their podcast sidecar rankings either. So can you tell 1407 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,559 Speaker 1: the Greg? Can you tell the story? Have we ever 1408 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 1: talked about this stuff? Now? And now you've been weird. 1409 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,400 Speaker 1: You are asking for a lot today, Dan, in terms 1410 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: of you know, Greg and Mark burning every bridge surrounding 1411 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,679 Speaker 1: them off the island. We can't talk about the breakfast story. 1412 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:55,040 Speaker 1: You already have done enough alright, listen, I just had 1413 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 1: to ask like as as a JOURNALI you know, when 1414 01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,559 Speaker 1: you want to get you do not leave until Chambers. 1415 01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 1: And that's for that's for our behind the music that 1416 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the podcast in five years. I understand that. Okay, Erica, 1417 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: how you doing doing? Great? Erica cannot be more bored 1418 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 1: of us by us, like breaking down the difference between 1419 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,680 Speaker 1: that Joe Davis and Kevin Coogler here less version of 1420 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the Mandalorian. You're saying it's so weird. Yeah, you do 1421 01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,520 Speaker 1: say why do you say it weird? Are you intentionally? 1422 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 1: I guarantee you. I don't know. I have no idea, Erica, 1423 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite play by play color team 1424 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,560 Speaker 1: or is and I say this like not mocking or 1425 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 1: in anyway or do you just watch the game and 1426 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 1: not plug in on that way because that's the way 1427 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 1: most people are? UM, A little bit of both. I 1428 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 1: do like Tony Romo um and nance. But I do 1429 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: think Kevin Harlan's the best. He's awesome and he was 1430 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 1: a great guest on this exactly. He was not nice 1431 01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: and remember remember he said he'd sit in his hotel 1432 01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:59,000 Speaker 1: room like in Green Bay in Blast NFL Films music 1433 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,160 Speaker 1: to get ready for that that kind of stuff. Like, 1434 01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: I also think he's creative. He's not just a technical dude. 1435 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 1: Like he'll go into these poem poems and poetics that 1436 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 1: no one else can do. So he's basket to right, 1437 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,599 Speaker 1: he's like he's a big And then radio and yet 1438 01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: you're yet CBS is sometimes sticking him on like the 1439 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: fourth game, come on, CBS. Well, he's out of position. 1440 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: He should be doing the best of the best, very good. 1441 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's an interesting who they paired him with. 1442 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 1: But I'll I'll stop speaking. Aman bugs me. Oh please, 1443 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 1: you don't like Aman. It's fine. He's uncut this year. 1444 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: I think I think it's partly because he's doing it 1445 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,760 Speaker 1: twice a week and they and he said something about 1446 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: they told him make the Thursday nights a little like 1447 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,679 Speaker 1: more punchy, a little moreever, and now you're traveling around 1448 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,880 Speaker 1: during a pandemic. It's like, I'm out here sweating for you, 1449 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 1: flying all over the country during pandemic. What the fike 1450 01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,280 Speaker 1: care if the special teams coaching doesn't like me? And 1451 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,720 Speaker 1: he's just flying off the buying off the hint. You know, 1452 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 1: there has been moments this season where like Jarra's yelling 1453 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,719 Speaker 1: at the screen, well what do you do? And Troy 1454 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: I thought we had an understanding he was. He was 1455 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 1: burying Jared Goff the other day and to the point 1456 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 1: where Jared Goff's had some you know people media support 1457 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: is being like, why is choice? Why is choice of 1458 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,759 Speaker 1: being so hard on him? It's like, comes him. It's funny. 1459 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,760 Speaker 1: Those two guys, Goff and Wentz, who went at the 1460 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 1: top of their draft class together, are punching bags this year. 1461 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 1: Everybody getting there getting their chance to tee off on 1462 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,200 Speaker 1: those two struggling qbs um all right, well they earned it, 1463 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: but it just feels like there's been some extra zest 1464 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,799 Speaker 1: in the criticism towards those two guys this year my opinion. 1465 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: All right, that's the only opinion I shared today. I 1466 01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,720 Speaker 1: let everyone else handle the heavy lifting. I appreciate it. Boys. Um. 1467 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Thank you again to Peter Schrager, who's a stud Watch 1468 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,560 Speaker 1: him on Good Morning Football five days a week and 1469 01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 1: uh on Fox where he does great work as well. 1470 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,840 Speaker 1: And we will be back on Thursday when we will 1471 01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,599 Speaker 1: preview yes weeks seventeen, and that is the biggest preview 1472 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: episode of the year for us in terms of pure 1473 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: gamage because there will be seventeen excuse me, six sixteen 1474 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: teams times two. That's how many teams are. There will 1475 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 1: be sixteen games to preview on Sunday, so make sure 1476 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 1: you tune in for that. And as a little tease 1477 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 1: Dan for that. Obviously, we've got some news around golf. 1478 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 1: But another star from the RAMS placed on the COVID 1479 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: list that you're gonna wanna you know, hear about? Are 1480 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,120 Speaker 1: you teasing that for Thursday? So don't check your phone. 1481 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 1: You probably know this if you're a big enough fan 1482 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 1: to listen to our show by now. Anyways, don't check 1483 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 1: your phone, don't check the news. There is a RAMS 1484 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 1: star associate, big star associated with Third Down that is 1485 01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 1: has now gone onto the COVID list. So just wait 1486 01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: until Thursday to find out. Okay, that's a that's an 1487 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: industry term known as a cliffhanger. You will find out 1488 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: which RAMS star went to the COVID list in two 1489 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: full days, all right, Mrs an has a signing off 1490 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:16,719 Speaker 1: for five cents or the old boss Ricky Hollywood behind 1491 01:13:16,760 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 1: the virtual last untiled Thursday set