WEBVTT - Episode 284 w/ Shyheim 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.200 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:23.640 and I Heart Radio and it's drink That's motherfucking podcast. Mason, 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.800 he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like it's your boy 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.360 in r He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.960 j e f N. Together they drink it up with 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.160 some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:44.000 And your number one sorts for drunk drink is New year' z. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:55.160 Just time for Drink Champs. Drink Up, Mother, would it 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:56.840 could be? Hopeully would have shot me to see point? 0:00:56.880 --> 0:01:04.880 And what up is dj e FN and his drink? Now? 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.600 This is one of the episodes I love. This is 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:11.120 one of the moments I love because not only is 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:15.440 this man a legend, we recently had discrepantencies or misunderstanding. 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.080 And when you do something that's wrong, or if you 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:22.440 do something that you thought, um, you didn't mean to, 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.320 but you gotta write your wrongs. And that's what real 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.800 men do. Real men don't base their feelings of a 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:33.800 boyish behavior. Real men act like real men. And besides that, 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.440 we had the invitation to him, we we we got 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:41.240 respectful him He's a legend, one of the first child stars, 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.000 not only just a child star, but a child star 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:49.840 that was like gangster. He's in mad movies, got movies 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:55.920 with l L, got records with Big Ol, part of 0:01:55.960 --> 0:02:00.600 the motherfucking legendary Well tell you motherfucking clan. But I 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.880 kind of feel like he started his career on his own. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.720 We don't get to the bottom of that. We're gonna 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.640 talk about the Movie's gonna talk about this new show. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:10.000 We're gonna talk about everything. In case you don't know 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.480 who the funk we talk about Shah, the rugged man, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.080 page page page. You can't you can't. You can't want 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.720 to be the rugged child no more right, you know what, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.720 It's one of them things. I don't think I'll ever 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:27.920 be able to shake it, like Luduwayne can never not 0:02:27.960 --> 0:02:31.600 be accepted. Yee, I don't got a choice. It's like 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.440 I tell people in my age and they still think 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.360 I'm fifteen, Like they don't un to stand the growth. 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:40.600 Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the beginning, because 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.720 how did you exactly get on? Because I believe we 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:46.840 heard of you prior to us here and about whoo who, 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:49.320 Well it will come out of ninety two? What what 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.720 what year was it? Well, my process into the music, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.240 um Uchang was always the thing of Ruchang for me. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.400 You know, Um, I'm from Stevens and Projects. You know, 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:08.160 Um Home and Gholdt Face producer, R and S, Rocky 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:15.680 and m Yeah like that flow so like and um 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.040 and Knife Prince, you see me, Knife Prince. We met 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:25.280 in second grade and we were just friends. And Rock 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.440 he was his big brother. They had DJ equipment, you 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.480 know what I mean. I was coming from the Projects. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.720 I really didn't have that, but I was able to 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.760 go around and see real speakers. Besides, back then we 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.680 used to have part parties, like yeah, DJ dr Rock 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.480 was from Staton Allen and he was that's the Foursome 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.760 seas back and then back in the A so they 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.360 would throw Paul jams. And that's what got me into it, 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.960 you know what I mean. Um, seeing that and then 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.280 dealing with real life like when my mom's drug addiction. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.200 It was like when I was sitting in a wrap, 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.120 it was loved. So that kind of gave me the confidence. 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.360 And that's why my rom's always was about out that 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:03.080 about the struggle, because it was therapy for me. To 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.600 get it out because I didn't really have many people 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.080 to talk to. What age was you when you first 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.280 came out? When I came out, We'll see. This is 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:15.760 the thing I was kind of. I was outside for 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.360 a long time before I actually got on Mercury from 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.840 the legendary R and B group to force him ds 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:25.479 there from stat Mallen and Mirk would throw parties and 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.960 he would bring artists to stat Allen and he would 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.240 let me open up to perform. So that's how it was, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.200 meeting like shoot out Green Daddy, are you naughty? All 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.640 before you know what I'm saying. I got my opportunity 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:41.800 once I started to do those shows rock Ym and 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.840 R and S who produced the un c S at 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.279 the time. He they started just like, oh, come up 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.360 to the studio and started to let me come around, 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:52.320 and then I started to. But the thing was, I 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.160 had to get my own tapes, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.000 Back then you had to go get the Maxwell teams 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.479 and not saying store. That's what I had to do, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.039 you know what I'm so, I would do all types 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:05.200 of things and no, no, no, thirteenes. Once I had 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.640 to deal we're talking, I'm probably nine. I'm probably like, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.040 I can't even imagine that everything he's saying that him, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.680 I never had a curve, you I mean, you know, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:17.080 my mom's in the street, so it allowed me to 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.440 be outside. So my hustle was go to the store. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:24.120 So that's how we'll get my little dollars. Taking bottles 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:25.560 to the store. That's who I was. That's who the 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.480 Rugged show was. I took bottles to the store. I 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.880 packed back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me, miss, Can I 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.040 help you see your bag with your car? The supermarket? 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.880 That was me drug dealers. Yeah, I'll go to store, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.479 keep the change. And that's how I fed myself some 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.800 most nice you know. And I brought my tapes and 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.280 started to go up there and create demos. So I 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:48.880 had finally got a demo. It's called the Bad Little Basket, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.800 and r and nests and big wigs and God rout 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.040 taking them and he was shopping gp Will at the time, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.440 and my song was on the tape and they're at 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.560 a meeting, and you know, back then, they would play 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.119 the tape and taper in and go to the other side. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.040 So I had to meet in the tape go. So 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.599 in all that, I'm a bad little basstid, who do 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.640 you And they're like, who's this little girl girl? Because 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.000 you're so young. Everybody thought I was a girl. Even 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.839 Big Daddy King said, I thought he was a girl 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.599 when I've seen him because my head was white. I 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.840 don't know, but my voice was real, like EMC lightish right, 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.640 And they're like, NA, that's that's my little man for 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.520 my project. They're like, yo, you got a picture of them, 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:30.799 and it was like yeah, and they gave him a picture. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:32.159 It was like yo, we want to sign them. And 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.360 it was just like word and then it was then 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.640 it was just like this little kid from Stevenson Projects 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:40.080 now got three hundred and fifty hollars because what was 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.720 the first labor side Virgin Records, Virgin Records. That was 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.200 what Janet Jackson was Jackson. Girls gotta smell Janet Jackson. No, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.840 I actually didn't get jack but I met Michael Jackson 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:55.640 was calm down nine a kid. Now I see shot that. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:01.040 I was. I know what I'm just saying, because that 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:08.880 sound what I'm saying, y'all went somewhere. I mean, it 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.000 is what it is. I was young because it's easy 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.800 shoot like that. I was happy that man, Mike, when 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.800 I was a little older, when you know you're not drinking, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.120 but I'm gonna drink from Champaine. But I'm on the 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.760 What you want me to pop? You want to pop? 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:25.600 The Big Boy, the little Home. Honestly, all of it 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.520 looked big boys to me because I like, I heard 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.120 of the Ace of Spade when I was away in 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.200 the magazine. That's like, yeah, that's like big, big, big ship. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:39.360 So yeah, you gotta go big big. Don't leave this 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:42.040 Michael Jackson story. No, no, no no, We're gonna right into it. Okay, 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.560 So what was you No? No, only reason, I said, Mike, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:49.040 because you brought up Janet right I was. I was 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.360 at Sony Studio recording street seven Street. So it's the 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.440 old build, you know, it's a new building. Okay. So 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.840 I'm near the exit smoking, or of a sudden, the 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:02.680 back door just pool. I see a mask. Yeah they've 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.520 been on the match. Yeah they've been, they've been. They've 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.200 Oh ship, I said Mike Old. I'm like, you know 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.200 right away. Oh, He's like, oh I love you guys, 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.600 I love your music. I was so hyped. I ran 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.880 back and told everybody, and then we all rushed thistly. 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.520 Everybody want to take this is the little cameras like 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.920 we was happy we didn't last five minutes after that 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.280 next thing, the phone ain't brute. Yeah, you guys is 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:32.720 gonna be moved over to the other buildings security ology. 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.719 I was hyped. You got a picture with Mike's awareness 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.120 this world. It is somewhere in this world, but I 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:41.000 don't have it. But yeah, I don't have anything. You 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:42.559 know how this when you get locked up, it seems 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.880 like nothing. You don't have nothing no more. How is 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.480 that right? Because I see a lot of people don't know. Um, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.640 I went through poems big with him, right, I didn't know. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.640 I did actually go to jail with him. But I'm 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.680 affected just as much as that we met in jail. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.199 But this bid, the second bit had to be different 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.200 for people knew who he was when he walked through people. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.200 How was that being someone famous? I didn't happen to 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:14.320 go back to that life because everyone's on the same level. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:18.800 Everyone's the same here, Juliani's everyone's the same amount of commissary, 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.680 So how was that going from where you came from 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.240 to that? For me, I always remained the same. So 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.600 in any situation, I'm always the same You're gonna see 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.080 me the same head. I'm the same way in prison, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:34.040 I'm the same way. Celebrating with my family, I'm I'm 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.760 one way. I don't even know this way to be 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.320 and to be myself. So I always took me wherever 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.960 I went, and I gave respect and I demanded respect. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:44.760 And that's stat I didn't play games. I didn't play cards, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.920 I didn't play basketball, I didn't wrap. I used the 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.400 penitentiary as a university. I studied, I wrote, I woke, 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.880 wroked out, and and and I got to see the 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:59.400 the world evolved without me and keep going without me. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.840 And that was that was That was hard. That was 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.960 hard when I had to finally, when I made the 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.680 decision to stop reaching out, stop falling, and stop writing, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:12.000 stop doing that with your five years, I did six 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.319 six ship. They chipped me out of it. Yeah, I 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:17.480 don't know why. They kept saying five years. Yeah that 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:24.800 all that BECA kept saying I was born in the 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.800 seventies six, and I'm like, no, I'm seventy seven, bro 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.280 give me another year, but continued, Yeah, so you know, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.320 so that's how I carried myself. And unfortunately you know 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.080 there was there was a lot of brothers in there 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.120 that related to me in some way and felt like 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.760 I was their little brother. And and these guys never 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.080 got another opportunity at life, and they knew what I 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.040 was facing. I had. I had a terrible bit. I 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:53.000 had a seven or fourteen bid. So for those that 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:54.559 don't know what means, you could have do do anywhere from 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.800 seven years. Yeah, and with that, you gotta walk on 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.280 eight shells. And it was a thing of you know, 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.360 it's all type of things to get into and there 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.560 you know, the drugs is there, the even the women 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.560 because you know, it's even with the CEO, and they 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.480 get the CEO. You get him some drama because he 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.960 liked her and in his mind, that's his girl, and 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.440 they just make up relationships and you're fighting, and yeah, 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.560 you're fighting. They go over something that ain't even yours 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.560 because she told you to start sweeping the steps. They're 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.000 mad that you're sweeping the steps. Now you gotta fighting 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.120 the over sweeping the steps because he feels like you're 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.680 taking his broth. And it's like, bro, we're mates, Like 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.360 this is not you know. So I stayed away from that, 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.080 and it was like a decision. You can stand outside 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:41.240 of the yard every day and reminisce about all the 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:42.920 dudes that had it and what you used to do 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.520 in the town, or you can focus on getting in 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.280 these programs and making them working better than yourself. And 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.280 I chose that. Do you do you bumping to anybody 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.560 else that was famous or anybody else that's right? Yeah, yeah, 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.680 I've seen me and True Life in Clinton. I've seen 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.720 True Life one day, but he was in a program 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:02.160 called APPU. I was in our general population, so I 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.560 had luckily, I was coming from the package room and 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.600 I had got through the gate, so I ain't even 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.199 supposed to be in whole. And when you went through 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.079 with them, when they walked, that's like having the man. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.920 Everything's short of a shot on walk with them, you 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.920 know what I mean. So I was like, oh, ship, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.199 you know, it was so boy like. It was up yeah, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.760 oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. I am, you know, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.160 shooting back back back to my thing. But I was 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:24.839 more excited to meet like the legends, like the Jails, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.160 like like the Wems and like like like like legends 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.000 from the street, like you know what I mean. I was. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.000 I was excited to meet those guys and just to 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:35.920 see where they went wrong at and you know, and 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.560 so I said, you know what, I got another chance. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.679 I can't blow it. So so so how does that happen? 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:46.560 Now you come home, the woo embraces you. Does what 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.560 happens like the first bit of the second bit, I'm 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.360 talking about the second Yeah, this is the second bit, 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.920 this second bit, Um, it was great. It was great 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.880 because I was a man now dealing on man level. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.520 Before I was you know, I was a kid, you 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.760 know what I mean. So to finally be recognized and 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:08.040 dealt with as a man and respected as a man, 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:11.480 it's a long time coming, you know. Um, for a 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:15.120 lot of time in my life, I um, I expected things, 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.400 you know, and then when I expected things, I got 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.959 let down. So everything is a plus for me today. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.360 I lived my life for today and like I just 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.079 embraced everything for today. It's a good one today. I 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.840 don't know about tomorrow, but I'm gonna enjoy this one 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.880 right now. I'm enjoyed being on drink chance because like 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.280 this is a miracle. This is a miracle for me 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:36.880 in my life. And and like I promised God when 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.920 when I was in that cell, and I broke down. 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.240 I praised with Law and I asked him to fix 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:44.480 me and fix my life and take everything that's not 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.120 good for me away and put right people in my path. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:50.319 And and he did that for me. And I'm sitting 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:57.080 here today, so I want to let you know that. Yeah. 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:01.520 One of um Uh joints I was listening to today, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:06.600 you get my notes. Um he said everyone's a huddler 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:13.000 until they get locked up and turned blood or musclum. Yeah, well, 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.559 big banks take little band and in New York pnitentiary, 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:26.720 the two biggest monsters is the homies and the Muslim community. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.640 And that's just what it is. You see dudes that 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.400 was everything in the world, and you know, and not 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.000 saying that they might not find God and want to 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.920 change their life, and those potent because if we do. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.280 But sometimes when they's false, you see them when they're home, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.440 they're not on the d n still they throw they 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.520 crowned soon as they get off the bus. There's mad 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:50.880 Bibles and Korans and and crowns and koufies in the bucket. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.520 You know what I'm saying. And that's that's when they're 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.400 repeated because you're not serious with your with your your growth. 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.200 You ever thought New York City would be like that, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.360 Like you know, um, you're being so young in the game, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.720 and I'm sure you had to travel to California and 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.960 see the differences. Like we had to guard abouties. We had, Um, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.600 we had poss Yeah, we had posts, we had the spades, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.680 and we had all of this, but it wasn't really 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.080 per se gangs like even Zulu Nation. Like Zulu Nation 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.520 was actually looked at as something that was positive. And 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:23.000 then it gets to the West Coast and the Bloods 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.080 and the crypt thing, and I remember us actually laughing, 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.800 not not laughing, but like, look, look like what are 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.360 they doing? They got Jerry Curls and and like why 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.840 are they doing this? And then now New York is 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:39.520 doing that? Well, um, I'm real about it. I think 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.760 it's just the state of the monitor people. Because some 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.440 people are followers and some people are leaders. It's a 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.360 bunch of followers that follow the trend, you know what 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.440 I mean. And they don't know no better, they don't know. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.160 They're just going off what they appeared, what they see, 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.920 what they where they see to be real, and sometimes 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.600 it takes some people their life and then sometimes take 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:01.120 people in prison forever, and then some people get it 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.200 in between and changes the life around. I think New 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.280 York is following on a whole lot of levels on 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.160 music when everything I think with us, what we did 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.840 was because it was everything we set the trends all 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.000 the time, and what we stopped doing with sticking together. 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.360 It was the time I remember as a kid. As 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:23.240 a kid, the whole industry was mines. Everybody was my 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:28.640 big brother Chuck, They big daddy. Can these dudes when 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.040 they've seen you, they grabbed you, they hugged you, they 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.520 told you, and they now you see a dude, it's 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.040 a standoff. You didn't see who's the fly. It's like 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:43.320 I can't say that the shine he got really all 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.760 I like to say software. I don't want to say 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.640 it was always like that, but it was a great 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:51.000 time where everyone embraced everyone like when you had it, 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.480 Like when I had an album release party, everyone would 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.160 be there like I couldn't even I didn't even have 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.720 to call people. I do remember that time you ever 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.160 throw a hip hop will be a little level like 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.200 as big as it is, like the verses and all 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:06.000 this ship is. I mean, I'm happy, you know what 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.600 I mean, I'm happy to be a part of it, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.800 you know what I mean. They see the evolutionary growth. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:11.960 Of course it has to change. These kids want to 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:13.560 do what they want to do, and there's nothing wrong 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.480 with that. Um yeah, but it's growth. Is it's a 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.600 lot to be done because it's all the other things 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:21.680 that can come from hip hop that we're able to do. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.400 Use our popularity, use our voices to clean up the community, 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.600 to start businesses, and use our voices just tell people 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.680 how to go about it. Because one thing we lack 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.320 in our community is the information. If I would have 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.959 knew half the things that I've learned along our journey, 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:39.359 I wouldn't have, you know, stumbled as much. And not 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.040 to say I went and made no mistakes, I wouldn't 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.760 stubbled as much. And that's what the other people do 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.760 in their communities. They give them the information when they're 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.960 in high school, they're preparing for their giving them the Jews. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.200 They're giving them that and they're helping them walk through it. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.359 I think every in our community, everybody just goes to 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.119 self when they make it. I think that's what for 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.280 Ell said on our he said when he said the 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.240 information we can't hide the information. We have to share 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.520 share the information. And I think, uh, that's something that 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:10.560 we've been trying to do on Drink Champs. Just the 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:12.879 crabs in the bucket mentality, Yeah, the crabs in the 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.200 bucket me you got you got those? Ready? Rise? You 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.560 know what I'm saying. So this is what we do 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:18.800 for our legends. You know what I'm saying. We want 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.440 you to know you were way invited, way before this 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.000 dumb sit and you're always gonna be invited. So we 0:18:24.080 --> 0:18:26.200 wanted to make sure you got your flowers. You know 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.399 what I'm saying to your motherfucking face. You know what 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.119 I'm saying. You know what I mean. You know what 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:34.000 I mean. Come on, come on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:40.680 your motherfucker what I'm saying, Nah, that's this is just 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:46.440 for the crib. You know what I'm saying. Roses, Yeah, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.399 and they lasted a couple of years because that's what 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.959 our show is about. What show was about giving flowers. Um, 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.960 it's always been about giving flowers. Are we gonna make 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.439 some mistakes along the way, of course we will. Are 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:01.399 we gonna make get some mistakes after? Of course we 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.840 will with our hearts and our goal is in the 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.600 right mind and the right frame. It's the great intentions 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:08.360 and we wanted you to know that face to face. 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.399 Man and man, I my nigga, thank you know what 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:16.000 I'm saying. So now I need you to go just 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.520 go on and on. But I just counted as twelve 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.800 is right, one plus Stewie Street. That's understands. Understand he 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:33.639 had to go. So you gotta take me to this 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:39.520 goes on and on? Shot you made that record? How 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.199 does how do where? What's going on? You were eleven? 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:44.399 You know it was it was the No. I was 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.159 like thirteen and it was No. Actually fourteen and it 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.159 was a fourteen fourteen fifteen somewhere around and you know, 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.560 I just started get old years with up. But um 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.840 it was the last song for the album. H and 0:19:56.000 --> 0:20:02.320 my manager Wigs He Wiggs was always the uh instill 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.879 in like black history for me, Like different from with 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.040 when I was with the Guards, you know what I'm saying. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:12.000 He was like uh Martin Luther King. He was more peaceful, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:13.640 you know what I'm saying. When I was with the Guards, 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.960 it was more revolutionary. So but he will always he 0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:22.040 had Yeah, I felt but this is what I'm saying. 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:24.439 So it was just the Jews, and he was like, Yo, 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:26.720 you have to be the reporter. That's who you are. 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.760 You have to show through your eyes, you know what 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.399 I'm saying. So I said, all right, well I'm right 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:34.800 through my eyes. And that's what came out of it. 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.120 And because in the line where I said, oh, man 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:40.960 got shot in the parking lot in front of my building, 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.960 I hain't with his grandchildren. It wasn't actually an old 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.320 man and his grand child. It was actually a dude 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.040 by the name of Tom Reagan that I looked up 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.879 to my neighborhood. He was fly and it's like a 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:54.040 dude just shot him under the building. It's just like 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:56.520 I killed him. That was one of my early depths. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.280 You're not when you're young. You have to see and 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:00.240 it always affects me because he was one of the 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.000 dudes that had one of those smiles, you know what. 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.720 It seemed like everybody that goes has that smile. And 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.520 then it's like he had that smile, and it was 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.840 just like I never forgot him. And when I was 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.200 writing that and I said, ah, this is what happens 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:15.600 in my neighborhood. So was was like because I you know, Um, 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.680 we interviewed Germaine Duprix, right, and it's something that I 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.760 asked him, like, you know him working with child Stars, 0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.359 is he could always get this money from Nickelodeon or Disney? 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.680 Was that ever like people who ever say, calm it 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:30.840 down was thirteen. By the time you're eighteen, you might 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.240 could be in a fucking Walt Disney. Oh man, it 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:36.560 was many. It was many relaxed on the god just 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:40.760 to telling me that to change my narrative to to 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.359 you know, be a little more clean, you know what 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:47.159 I'm saying. Um to join him Mature because I did 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:50.320 a record with Immature. UM called to Love his group 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.440 and they wanted me to join the group. And I 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:57.159 was wanted he had like to be the rap like 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:03.960 like the rapper because we did the song and I 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.480 couldn't I doing it and it was a lot of money. 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:09.680 But you know, coming from the projects, this is what 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.320 I love about coming from where I come from. It 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.720 gives you this thing called fuck it and it's like, yo, 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.800 for my principles and my pride, funk it. It's like, 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:22.000 this is who I am. I turned down movies because uh, 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:24.720 I wasn't gonna kick over a garbage kid, because I 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:26.640 know if I came back to the project, they're gonna 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.760 kill me. Was kicking over the garbage cans in the project, 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:31.399 I couldn't have lived, you know what I'm saying. So 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.560 I based everything off of what I thought that the 0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.480 people from my neighborhood would think of me. That it's 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.480 a boat, it's a mindus true, because that's not real life. 0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:44.040 You shouldn't. You should live your real life what people think. 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.760 But as a kid, you're only influenced about what you 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.200 see in your world. So in my book back for 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.000 a long time, I carried everybody else and Ship everybody 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.879 else's thoughts, everybody that I accumulated, and and then it 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:57.800 was soon when it when it burst and it was 0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.800 over and everybody went to their real obs. I was 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.879 still stuck in amazed, like, oh Ship, it ain't no 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.440 real industry, it ain't these things. Really don't love me, 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:09.080 o ship? This was business? Oh yeah, sorry, kid, this 0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:10.960 is this is business. I'm not like, really your lawyer, 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:12.800 I ain't come in to court to help you with 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.240 with this is I'm not gonna help you kids. You 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.639 got the budget cold, somebody they're not what and didnt 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.320 reality hits you like, oh ship, that's eighteen you're saying 0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.360 started hitting you with that. No, no, but let's song 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.320 shot because this is like your first hit rep year, right. 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:32.119 How many people finger popped at that time? I was 0:23:34.960 --> 0:23:40.440 at least I don't know why I was clevering. But no, no, not. 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:42.480 But here's the thing. A lot of the women probably 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.480 be in jail right now because I wasn't dealing with 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:46.880 thirteen years when she was the opposite off. Yeah, yeah, 0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:55.720 I was getting what I'm telling you. I remember how 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.200 I got my bed. I'll tell you how I got it. 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.800 He was when I was young. The older guys would 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:01.720 tell you want them, you gotta get the bed. You 0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:03.920 ain't doing that right because I'll be talking to a 0:24:04.040 --> 0:24:06.520 girl I come through the process Puerto Rican? Here, what's 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:08.919 the guy who told you that? To Puerto Rican? I'ma 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:14.840 have Cuban, so I don't I don't speak nothing. Yeah, 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.399 supposed to be eating pussy early. So it was the 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.400 thing like you know, you know, you got a little 0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:23.080 girlfriend and you couldn't come through the bout of the 0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:26.200 building on the bench. Everybody out there hustling, so like, yeah, 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.160 you don't know what to do with that. You ain't 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:29.880 doing the right then, and I'm like, just I am chilling. 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.320 You don't say you mean eating. I'm like that's nasty. 0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:34.720 And he's like, here, you gotta put your whole face 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.439 everything the chin aside. And my superdass was like, yeah, right, 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.720 if you did all this ship that, I can't even 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.520 cut it. I cut it today. It's like two, mom, 0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.080 it's crazy. That's how you get it. That's how you 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.200 get this band. I thought that was just Puerto Rican ship. 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.760 It's like, I didn't even know Cuban Cubans you know cute. 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.600 I did not that they came. You'm okay have black 0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:01.200 to Jamaican's. Don't want that, baby, Yeah, I know a 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.920 few of that, dude though. Yeah, they'd be low riding, 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:11.080 yeah we call it. Yeah, but a lot of them, 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.920 you know. But you got a thing at the time, 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.520 besides the rap celebrity girls. I was around my age 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:18.520 and I used to think I would have a relationship with, 0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.520 you know, a girl, right, It's okay, let's just strow 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.200 it out. Dude, you're knock. I mean see, there's a 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.520 problem with that, right, because I don't want to seem 0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:29.200 like I wanted them dudes that like talk about some 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.840 old ship. It was twenty years ago. Just be clear. 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.159 We had Nick Cannon sitting in the same table. Oh 0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.040 he's a and he said, he said that Kim Kardashian 0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:39.520 hurt his feelings and we had to say we had 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.680 to be with him. So you ain't got nothing to 0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:45.800 worry about her. Yeah, he said, he said, listen, he damn, 0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.520 I blowing up to the episode. But the episodes out right, 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:50.359 he said, he ket he kept it real. We had 0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.680 to take a couple of shots to start smoking smoke. 0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.760 He just smoke me, and he said, he said he 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:57.720 kept it real. He said he would have stuck by 0:25:57.800 --> 0:26:00.359 her if she would have said that the rage tape 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.720 was real. But he said that she said jal, So 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:06.760 he was like hi, And then when he came out, 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:09.160 he was hurt. He said, could he could? He said, 0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.080 but he was? He did? Oh s I don't know. 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.960 I mean, it depends why that's his own motor d 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:20.840 you know, yeah, but I didn't know. You gotta put 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:24.280 it like knockdown. Who did everybody? Damn? I think it 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.600 was Monica one. No Monica was that I met Monica 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:31.640 Monica is a cool person, very like Churchy. That wasn't 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.320 really like not to say she was my style, but 0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:37.399 I was into the Bite street girls. But I like 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:41.200 girls like the girls that I liked. I like like 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.920 Foxy Brown, like like Feed. I'm like like Queen Pin. 0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:48.200 I like girls like that. Okay, okay, I followed. I 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.399 like I like old girls. I like girls like that 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.560 that was in the industry doing this thing on the 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.639 high level, very hat swag they was doing. You know 0:26:56.680 --> 0:27:01.680 what I mean. I followed all the way through standing 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:08.520 over respectfully. Actually she's very good person. So I never like, 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:14.320 never talked to help in that manner. So, um, move 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.680 it on. How did you start acting? What was what 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:22.520 was the actor who told you it was the first 0:27:22.680 --> 0:27:25.080 The first off I got was to be in the 0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.280 Friday Movie to Being Fridays as the little kid Chris 0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.600 kicking over the garbage kids. And I was like, I 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:34.800 ain't doing that. You're going to So when you said 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.480 kicking over the garbage kid, what are you talking about? 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.600 They told you not to do it. I didn't want 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:43.000 to do because think about it, right during that time, 0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:48.240 right we're talking the early nineties, you just kind of 0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.280 sell out like at that time, it was like, yo, 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:51.919 you got a movie. It was to sell out, right. 0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:57.200 I remember. There's no disrespect to anybody, but I remember 0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.119 it was a time, right because I hung with Cane 0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.160 and came, man, that's like, that's like that's all that's 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:04.080 my heart, right. And he will always give me these 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.080 jews like never sell your publishing this, and he said, 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:08.640 you know, you need to take your career to two 0:28:08.720 --> 0:28:11.840 movies and things like that. And I would come back 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:15.480 home around the trying to make you a sell out 0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:19.280 and I'm like yo, and then so I'm like nah. 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:20.960 My mind was like I don't want to be a 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:22.440 sell out. You know what I'm saying, Like, na, I'm 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:29.119 hip hop. All that was done radio. You ain't bar 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.080 me throwing stretch you made to the red. This thing 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.120 is dumb. You're being a party. And they're like nah, 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.520 he he you don't wrap us no more. It wasn't 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.920 some commercials and things of money like that. And he 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.280 would said, forget all this against sticking true to the culture. 0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:42.240 I'm going to get the bag. And if I got 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.200 to do a flip in the strike commercial, that's what 0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.959 they did and it made it sells everybody out at 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:49.720 the end of the day. But wait, was the frind 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.120 of thing before the til Yeah? Yeah, it was before 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.760 because it's the same director. So when that ain't happened 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.000 for that, he called me back. He said, all right, 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.120 it's not acting, it's just eat in the video. And 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.080 or you're doing this being yourself, he said. I said, 0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.480 what is it for? He said, TLC. I was saying, 0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.120 oh yeah, I'm on that, and and it was just 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:10.640 to be in a video. I didn't think of it. 0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:13.280 I didn't think of it as acting. I just thought 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.400 that it's being in the video. But but Friday, did 0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:17.800 you know what Ice Cub was attached to that? I didn't. 0:29:17.840 --> 0:29:19.760 I didn't really care, you know what I mean. I 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.280 didn't care because for me, with me and the world 0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.720 was coming to a party and rock him giving you 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.440 a DAP or Chuck Deed telling me that I'm the bridge, 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.720 and it's like, no, I'm not doing this. I want 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.360 to be accepted, you know what I'm saying on the block. 0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.760 I don't really care about that, you know what I mean. 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.320 So that's why. But then when he said the video, 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.200 I said, all right, I'm not acting. I'm not really 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.440 So I did that and then the next call I 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:49.000 got was by Fred Williamson for Original Gangster's Original Games. 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.320 And this is one of the things when I can 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.600 say this, if people weren't you, they're gonna find you. 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:57.680 I don't care if you under the rock and nothing's 0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.600 all that you need to be politics and have this 0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.040 one that's bullshit. When you if you got interests and 0:30:03.080 --> 0:30:06.040 people see value in you, they're gonna find So that's 0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.480 what happened. My phone rang one day. It's an old 0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:11.840 man by the name of Fred Williamson the Hammer. Now 0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.480 people who know who the hammer is, they know me. 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:18.520 I didn't know, so I'm like, who it's the Hammer? 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.320 So I'm like, I can't touch this. He like na, 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.800 He's like, no, this is Fred Williamson, he said. I said, okay, 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.920 well what's up. He's like, I want you in the movie. 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:33.040 I'm like, Oh, ask your mama, who who who the Fred? 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:37.080 Him Williams said, I'm like, yo, you know some dude 0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:42.560 about him Jim browning them? Everybody? Man, they didn't jumped 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:45.760 up my uncle. You're doing that. You're doing that. I 0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.600 don't care about all that ship you're doing. You know 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:51.080 what they did for black people and movie and films 0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:55.000 and everything you're gonna go and being this film where 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:56.920 I got a ouncle God bless your soul named she 0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.000 Go my uncle Charlie. And he was like when he said, 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.840 and you're gonna do it, You're gonna do it. You're 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.400 going you do it. And that's how I got there 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:10.680 makes no noise. Un hold on, I got so much notice, 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.840 but hold on, hold on, Oh ship dam and who 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.440 real quick time with Slim today. Uh, these guys you 0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.760 don't see the argument the bens they're gonna be Yeah, 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.000 there's mad loud on the side. Bro, you ain't see 0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:25.280 that ship were you said? We're you sending that ship? 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.840 You personally on the group chat I'm talking about earlier 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.800 the um that was a group chat. Okay, cool, all right, cool, 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:37.040 I got it. Yeah, this is good organic food can 0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:41.520 to Jack Teller. Voso was a part of Jack Teller 0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:44.120 Jack Diller. You know I said, I said, oh eat 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.440 a new ferrycon Jack. He called me. He called me like, 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:54.320 what's what's got to do with it? Either love or 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.440 hate him? Like they either love him or they hate him. 0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:00.560 He's good. We love him over if we love we 0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.120 love him? But our fast day day up in the 0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:12.720 air with him. So all right, cool, So I'm gonna 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:14.920 run through a couple of these, and I want you 0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:16.520 to tell me what what what it means to you 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:22.440 when I said to a kid of rugged child at 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:31.520 four a K eight to rugged child in four, damn 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:35.720 that that little nigga man um because he literally is 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:41.040 a different person. He wanted to save the world. He 0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.520 wanted to bring everybody from his projects with him. If 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.840 I could have, I would have a thirteen. I would 0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.360 have had everybody, everybody. I would like to believe through 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.480 my actions and and and maybe you know, the people 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.840 from our neighborhood maybe could tell you better than I 0:32:55.920 --> 0:32:58.120 could probably tell you. But I would like to believe 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:02.160 that I shared. I shared my my, my money, my fame, 0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.640 my life with them. You know, I gave his music 0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.400 business more than half my whole existence in the planet, 0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:15.280 you know. And you know I'm hip hop. I dedicate 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:21.400 my life to this ship. Okay, the Lord's generation. Oh 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:25.000 he was arrogant, he had some money. Yeah, it's the 0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.920 same little little year. But he's yeah, he control now 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:33.800 he you know, Yeah he's getting some virgin yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.040 he's virgin new trial because they had created a rap department. 0:33:37.120 --> 0:33:39.560 Now you know what I'm saying, it's me, the Loonies 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.480 and scar Faced, a couple of rap. A lot dudes 0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:45.400 was over there. Um yeah, so it transition, but it 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:48.440 was still under version. Um yeah, I was, I was. 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:53.320 I was having sex. You know what I'm saying. I was. 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.960 You you're scoring now? Yeah. I used to collect phone 0:33:57.040 --> 0:34:02.520 numbers everything, so you know, Uh so I was, I was, 0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.360 I was. I was. Yeah, I was a little horn 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.560 though I'm a scorpio two. So I when I was, yeah, 0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.400 I was hard. I was busting him down. But that 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:15.359 was the last generation O man child. That's when ship 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.080 got real. That's got that ship got real. That's when 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:27.080 it changed from with with you. So now you got 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:31.799 the honey you're saying the audience to people, Well, I don't, 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.399 I don't know. I don't know about music. I can't 0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.480 I don't know what fans was things. I don't really 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:40.040 base my life on what that force is. It's just 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:42.400 like in my personal life and in my community, in 0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:46.080 my neighborhood, it started to change. People that was rooting 0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:47.960 for me was for me, but then it was like 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.920 it started to change into jealousy. It started to change 0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:55.800 into because you're next to me. Now you feel you 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.000 should have what I have and you feel that I'm 0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.879 stopping you from getting it. And it's not me, it's 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.920 God's blessing me. How are you mad at me for 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.319 him blessing me? Pray and he'll brush you. But that's 0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:11.960 what happened. So it started to turn the Hey, I 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:18.160 started to get caught fighting, getting caught with guns because 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.120 I ain't know no better, and all I knew what 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.480 to do was yo and get a gun. Was I 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:24.880 ready to shoot somebody? Absolutely not. I couldn't tell you. 0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.880 I remember fronting in the mirror like I'm on, oh 0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.920 my god, one walking with it. I wasn't prepared for that, 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:31.560 you know what I'm saying. And that's what happens with 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:35.160 a lot of kids and teenagers. We get thrown into 0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:40.840 a a gang, get thrown into business, whether it's hustling 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.279 and being out there, and don't know what to do 0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:47.000 when the real ship happens. So you make these mistakes 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:48.960 and the only thing that's gonna teach you at that 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.120 point is growth and moaning. When they say you're enough 0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:56.640 enough for this ship, well I took it, Okay, the 0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:03.400 greatest story never told. H I felt that way. I 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:08.440 felt that way I felt to come into this come 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.840 coming from my struggles. I was born with bron kite. 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:12.440 I wasn't even supposed to live. I was born at 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:17.239 six months to having a mother that had me at sixteen. 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.160 Then I was raised by my grandmother, so she died. 0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.759 Then I was just outside. My mother was getting high. 0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.839 Then I it came a wrapper and got money. Then 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.960 everybody was just around me and flooded my hear and 0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:32.640 telling me it was good for me, it was best 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.000 for me. And I was just a follower. And I 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.080 went down a long road that I didn't have to 0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:39.680 go to trying to be something that I'm not. And 0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.040 when I was in prison this last song, I realized, 0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:45.640 I'm not like that. As much as I would like 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.680 to believe, I'll go all the way to funk out. 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.480 I don't. I want a better life. I want to 0:36:50.560 --> 0:36:52.839 live good, I want to be happy. I don't want 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.799 to live every day I have to go to night. 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.160 So that's that's what it did. It it opened, It 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.800 opened the geese. Damn, that was a great ship. Hold on. 0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.520 I still got more notes. I got a lot of notes, 0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.080 I went in there. Yeah, but did you know this this? 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:21.600 What more did we gonna disrespectfully speaking? M hmm, good one, 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:28.160 great one. Actually, I would say this is the time 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.080 you wan ray Kun is not saying yeah, yeah, it's 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:39.200 um um. I expected. I had a big expectitious right, 0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:45.560 and in my mind I thought that ray Kawan and 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:50.160 Wos saying should be doing more for me. Right, That's 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:55.560 where I was at that and I felt that I 0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:59.560 wasn't one that was like again because I had my 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.520 different start, you know what I mean. So I wasn't 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:05.279 looking for a handout. I was just saying, yo, look 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:07.319 look what I do. I'm talented, I wrapped, I act. 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:10.120 Why you not? What's up? Throld me? I'm under the rim. 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:12.440 So if you're standing in the rim for so long, 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.960 throw with fucking throw it. It's like, yo, what I'm 0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:16.759 gonna do. I'm gonna take the fucking ball and I'm 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.279 gonna throw that ship because I'm wide open all the time. 0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:23.360 So but it was I was still immature, you know 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:25.960 what I'm saying, And I didn't realize where he was 0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:29.080 at in his life as a man. Because now I'm 0:38:29.160 --> 0:38:31.440 at that place as a man and I see it 0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:34.160 through those eyes. You don't know how to express it. 0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.399 I expressed it well on my level because I don't 0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:40.160 say that I didn't feel that way because I felt 0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:42.120 how I felt. I don't know. I'm not taking back 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:47.120 how I felt at all, but how I handled it 0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.440 it was immature and very kitty of me, you know 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.279 what I'm saying. But and after I thought about it, 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:56.320 when you got that time, when you think about it, 0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:58.360 all the good memories, I'm like, sho, I love this 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.520 nigga like I have great times too. And then it's like, 0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.200 once I started to come into my own understanding, I 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.040 owed him an apology and I gave him a sincere 0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.960 apology because I understand where it was that because it's 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.600 like your what value was I bringing to him? It's 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.600 like this, I can say, yo, norm I got your number. 0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:18.759 You don't call me right and you can say where 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:22.640 you don't go me togther, So it's like yo, I'm like, yo, 0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:24.200 you ain't throwing the ball to me. It's like, well, 0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.359 what boy you through to me? And then then that's 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.560 real reality and it's like work, I ain't never throw 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:32.239 you stuff. If you remember this, please please remember. But 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.960 I swear to God. I had that same conversation, we'll 0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.040 do for my hood. He hit me one day, he said, 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.279 you don't call me. You don't call me when you're 0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:41.040 in the hood. And I said, but you don't call 0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:42.879 me when you know I'm in the hood. So who 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.240 the fund is wrong here? Yeah? Yeah, the same conversations 0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:50.319 in life. You have to take responsibility for what you did. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.760 I'm not saying I wasn't hurt or offended by that action, 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.799 but I had to take responsibility for myself and through 0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.359 my own personal growth, I was able to see where 0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.879 he stood in his life because that's how I sent 0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:04.040 in my life. Like, Yo, if we're together, then we 0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:07.320 brabbling together. We're doing business. And not only we doing business, nigger. 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.799 When my kid has a birthday, you know you're there, 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:12.680 and you're not only just some party friend or some 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:16.480 music family, your family family. So it just puts things. 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.239 I was able to put things in its proper perspective. 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.920 Like even with with my finances, I had to learn 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.680 to do that. I make a dollar, I don't got 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:26.520 a dollar, a quarters for this, quarters to that, quarters 0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.560 for this, quarters for that, and then I'm able to 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:32.080 have a little balance. The same thing with relationships. This 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:36.600 relationship may just be smoking blunts and getting drunk, or 0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:38.920 she may just be the chick I hang out with 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:40.680 the go to parties. But she's not gonna come up 0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:43.080 eight hours to the president. What was you stupid for 0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.840 thinking she was coming. She's at the next party, idiot. 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:51.040 And that's reality for yours. When reality strikes and you're 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:55.279 sitting on that ball with them itchy blankets. God make 0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:59.840 so much that this is a game we played with 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.360 all all of our guests. We know you're not drinking, 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.080 so we're gonna drink for you. Lets you want when 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.719 your homies sitting for you? You know what I mean? 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:10.840 I don't know. Wait with June June's out, can you 0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.160 come on Papa there drinking. Let's see if you gonna 0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.120 hold it down from New Jersey. Motherfucker's is playing dirty 0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:19.520 from the beginning. He's like my people when they put it, yeah, 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:21.359 I like I like it. I like it. Come on here, 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.040 let's see. You got you gotta drink down to drink shins, 0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:28.920 don't represent, don't represent, and get the table. Just get 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.759 on the shots because you got you got. There's a 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:33.680 second one right on right here. Look if you want 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:35.840 drink shins, don't get drunk under the table. Let's go. 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:38.200 You get some water if you want. Yeah, I definitely 0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:42.960 all right. Cool. You gotta stand up because you know 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:45.839 whatever he's gonna drink. Yeah, what what you want to drink? 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:48.640 You want to drink? Do say you want to drink? 0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.200 I'm drinking something. You can drink my majuana. You can 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:56.120 drink something Colombia water, watermelon. He don't start speaking Spanish? 0:41:56.200 --> 0:41:58.359 Then you speak Spanish a lot of damn time. Now 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:00.360 you're talking about me. That means he told about me 0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:02.560 because you don't know he speaks Spanish. You're gonna get 0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:09.359 in with y'all. Stop speaking Spanish. Who speaks Spanish? Cool? 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.920 You can man? Wanna I respect that mama? Who I'm 0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:16.439 not gonna follow you, but I'm gonna respect that mama. 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.560 Wanna all right? Cool? Quick time of slim. You answer 0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:22.759 you can you can say one or the other. Well, 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:24.840 you could say both. You say both of your man drinks. 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.400 It's nothing you can say no answer your man drinks. 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:33.480 But we all drink no word, so we are using them. Yeah, okay, 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.120 I don't know which one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:40.000 I just I don't know which one you're gonna pick 0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:44.759 on this one. This is really some inside wootang ship 0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:52.319 you have to pour up or expected debt as far 0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:57.960 as what we don't know check it's whatever in your 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.600 mind and if you want us. I don't know if 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.200 you're saying this as if they're m C or who 0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:07.759 I have would relationship with it if it if it 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:09.840 goes to the relationship, who I'm gonna call in my 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.799 phone first, I'm gonna calling spack and back the side 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:17.640 of okay if it goes to MCIN sounds like both 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:29.359 to me, sir with enjoy solo solo. This is good. 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:31.560 It is good for man. I want to I want 0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:33.200 to say what it is, but I don't want my 0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:38.800 man isn't only be like a freaky I'm but I 0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.720 don't want to be like a stick and people thinking 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:47.040 to don't worry about the water all right, Um, I 0:43:47.080 --> 0:43:51.080 don't know where you're going with this one. Neither marbdep 0:43:52.680 --> 0:44:03.719 or m O p wow okay, yes, okay O d 0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:14.920 B A big punt O g B or prospect that 0:44:17.360 --> 0:44:22.399 this is where it's gonna get a little crassy puff 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:28.640 daddy or shug mm hmmm. Have you ever met Shug. Mhm, 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:30.319 I need to hit the story. But wait, wait, let 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:40.279 him ask you for answer first. Damn, neither, that's a shot. 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.160 That's a shot, So do the rules of the game. 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.960 I respect that. Let's hear the story before we know 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:51.400 the reason why. I say neither, right, because both of 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.120 them are real moguls, right, you gotta put daddy story too. 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:57.080 We'll take them both, right, they're both big moguls, right 0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.160 at least when ship was out, he was a big mogul. 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.040 And for what I wanted do in the business, it's 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.799 no room for me to be under a big mogul 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.640 because I want to be a big more so. It's 0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.360 nothing so either one of them brothers, But I just 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.719 want to be because you met but you, but you 0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:12.400 met you done with. I didn't there. I met him, 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.759 I was, I was. I met him a crazy way, 0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:19.320 but I met him crazy crazy. I was out in 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:23.400 California and you know, I'm running around the beach somehow 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:29.080 and that everything I can hollight career, we probably where 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:32.960 we are. Yeah, yeah, mallible, Okay, I used to hang 0:45:33.000 --> 0:45:34.560 out like I was. I was when I was out there. 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:36.920 You know, I hung out in Hollywood. You know what 0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.920 I mean. I really I went to the hood sometime, 0:45:38.960 --> 0:45:41.319 but I was a Hollywood kid, you know me. Um, 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:47.080 so I meant this female and we start hanging out. 0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.200 So I'm like, I gotta go by a studio, my 0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.440 boy DJ Quick, you know I mean, So I go 0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:54.600 by to check great new men the studio and you 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.880 knew Quick was already right yah yah, Yeah, I met 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.920 Quick is another story. Just it's just one of them 0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:00.839 things that God puts me in your life when they're 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:03.200 supposed to be there. And I go to the studio 0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:04.480 and I'm with her and they're like, you know, who 0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:08.120 the funk that is? Your baby, mama one. But that 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:09.520 was over. After that, I said, you got to go. 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:14.080 We're gonna stopped talking to him, and I guess her 0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:16.279 things always always messing up things for me, But it's 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.040 not like that. And then when I met him, he 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:19.640 was like, no, I would have been a little man, 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:25.120 And I was like, they wouldn't have been because you know, 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:28.880 I didn't really want those type of problems. Understand, I understand, 0:46:29.080 --> 0:46:34.000 can be moving on. This was like two thousand. This 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:36.279 is like two thousand around. That's how he's doing one 0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.279 of the roots and clan albums out there. One of 0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.960 them they we wasn't. I was just with them while 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.080 they was recording. Okay, I know what you're gonna go 0:46:45.160 --> 0:46:52.080 with this one. Dr dre Listen. I mean again, see 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.440 if I could have see again he got What is 0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.400 it for? Because if it's him, I need both of you. 0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:00.720 It's whatever criterias in your mind. I mean you couldn't. 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.160 That's that's the craziness. I'm trying to figure out what 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.279 you mean because it's like it's just so vast it's 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.759 meant for you to be drinking. If you would be 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.880 drinking this, this game gets better better because I just 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:14.960 need to know what I can say. As as as 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:21.480 artists both yea, because it's just it just helps categorized. 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:25.800 I don't want my words to be misconstued. It's just 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:28.120 you know, shoes doctor drain over the ris and it's 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:29.799 like we're just showing about the risk is my big brother. 0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:32.960 I can never We're just gonna drink for you, but 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.440 we're gonna driw you just how you did both of them. 0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:37.239 Have both of them produced for me? That would be 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:39.520 a would be crazy solent. We're taking a show. We're 0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:45.359 doing both right, on that. Ye both, all right, what's 0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:49.680 he getting? Normous? All right? This one again, the more 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.200 should change it a little bit, but you can make 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:53.840 him fall. I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it. 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:57.040 I'm gonna leave it. Method. But well would you like no, no, no, no, 0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.879 I was gonna change because so method man or Jada 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:06.440 is okay this one, this one is a little tricky. 0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:08.120 I like this one. I like the one before that. 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:19.080 Ray or Ghost Ghost okay, yeah, yeah, all right. I 0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.560 think we should both all get our ship ready DMX 0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:30.839 or tupap both. There's no way that's one. I keep 0:48:31.440 --> 0:48:34.600 both of them. We got DMX. Oh that's beautiful. Both 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:40.239 of them were so like they definitely was yeah, yeah, 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:48.880 Hix never heard seven ship. Yeah, that's the first one. 0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:51.959 But I thought it was gonna be something before. Okay, 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:57.320 where was that freestyle? That clear? Plaium was nothing? That was? 0:48:57.600 --> 0:49:13.480 What was that? What was? Understand I'm just stand square 0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:22.480 guarding New York super fess understand me. You know that 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.680 ms TO recorded that right, because I got the vital 0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:26.520 it was mr Vil he put off. Yeah, you know 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.360 what's crazy. I was just going through argue. I actually 0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:32.160 had an argument because they was talking about it, and 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:33.560 I was in the commerce. I was like, it's a 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.000 free style, and I'm arguing with people when they're like, no, 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.360 what's the record, I'm like, no, it was a freestyle. 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.320 And then he goes, oh, I made it a wreckie. 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.319 So now I go, okay, since it's a rekie, who 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:50.240 got my publishing? Now? Who took my If it's a record, 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:53.080 If that freestyle is now a record and it's now streaming, 0:49:53.080 --> 0:49:56.080 it's now getting Royal's, somebody got some money. That's true. 0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.360 Is it streaming? I know it's on vinyl. If it 0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:04.200 was made into a record, it's a release. I always 0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.919 was under the assumption that it was a freestyle because 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:08.960 I came up under the time when I was on 0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:13.799 Doop subscribed to us what happened this night? Oh to night? 0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.799 I was on Tool. I was young. I was on Tool. 0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:25.320 Big Daddy came everything. So last spots get too Actually, 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:27.279 how I actually get in to the New Yorkshire We 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:30.040 I think me in Arizona and King had to literally 0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.200 pick me up. It was It's the biggest arcade room 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:35.560 in the world. It seemed like it seemed like the 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.040 world was video game heaven, and I was in it, 0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:40.960 but we had a plane to catch, and I was 0:50:41.040 --> 0:50:45.760 a kid. I did not want to leave, literally kicking, 0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:48.000 and I was like, I want to play games like 0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:49.799 I was that kid because it got to a time 0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.239 when I wanted just to be a kid. I didn't 0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.120 want to do no interviews, I didn't want to wrap. 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:56.640 I just wanted to play basketball and do what I 0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.400 ever did and didn't watch my friends. Yeah, but then 0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.720 your friends growing up experiencing real life. They're going to proms. 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:04.720 You can't go because I'm not even in regular school 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:09.279 no more. Then they're getting married. I'm still in rapper life. 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.200 And then next thing you know, you with a whole 0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.880 new crew that's not even your original crew because they 0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.759 grew up and had to go down the road that 0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:17.600 they had to go, and they kick your signs man, 0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.279 kick her sons, so kick her sons. Yeah. So and 0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.000 so that was. We ended up in New York and 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.800 we was doing I was always a part of the 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.560 tour coming out around it. But this show, since we 0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:33.000 was in New York, he can bring out big Park. 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.600 So Park was Park was like considered East Coast guy. 0:51:37.760 --> 0:51:40.719 This time, let's keep it real shot. He was he 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:47.680 was his story. I mean, he was like coast, he 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:50.000 was born out there. He just everybody knows that he 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:54.879 came out with he was you know, he at that time, 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:59.439 he even rep New York. He would wrap both um, Yeah, 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:02.040 that was I guess he was New York. But you 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.440 felt how did you feel about Yeah? You felt like 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.040 he was a New York dude because he had the thing. 0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:11.560 I mean I didn't really, yeah, but I see my 0:52:11.680 --> 0:52:13.480 thing is this, I'm funny when it comes to my 0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.319 New York. Like I'm really funny with it. And even 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.120 I'm from stat down right, and we like as far 0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.560 as the New York thing, it's like sometimes New York 0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:24.799 and throw him on nowand and before it's like it's 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:29.040 like right, So it's like damn, you know what I mean. 0:52:29.239 --> 0:52:31.239 It just made it more harder for us to wrap. 0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:33.400 And we just wanted to be like me right, you 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:36.239 know what I mean. She's saying I didn't. I didn't 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:38.680 really didn't. It's not that I didn't claim him, but 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:40.640 it wasn't like y'all seeing it right when I when 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.120 I throw the y'all throw the queens identified with y'all's 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.320 queens appreciate that I didn't identify with nowhere else, you 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.239 know what I'm saying, But did junior head pop? This 0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:51.920 is a nothing like the old school, Like no one 0:52:52.120 --> 0:52:55.800 he broke down Skelly, he broke down Italian ices. No 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:58.400 one could break down the New York summer unless you 0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.840 actually was in that New York sothing like York has 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:02.640 been in the New York summer. But it's a difference 0:53:02.680 --> 0:53:05.880 from growing up in New York summers. Gonna listen to 0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:08.360 the record, you can tell he grew up with it, Like, 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:10.640 but what age did he because I've read it. I've 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:14.080 read a lot of his biography. I because but that's 0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.640 what happened because he was dealing with you know, you know, 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:18.360 the rest of the soul. He was dealing with a 0:53:18.440 --> 0:53:21.960 mother that also was battling drug addiction. So he was 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:23.960 like an army kid. He'd be in New York, then 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:25.800 he'd be in Michigan, and he probably moved all the 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:28.480 way around, so he had pieces of everybody. And that's 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.360 what made him such a great artist, because he was 0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.880 able to tap in to the South or to the 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.480 West coast and to that and being related to those 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:37.799 people and was this is your first time meeting Pop 0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:41.680 was that, No, no, no, I met Park. The first 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:44.200 time I met Pop was strew a guy by the 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:48.160 name of Richie Rich from the four or five. Yeah, 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:50.200 that's the first person. That's the first person on the 0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:53.080 West Coast follow He was trying to school me just now, 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.080 But that's the first I mean, I don't know, but 0:53:56.160 --> 0:54:01.840 I'm just saying. I was she I was shot. I 0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:03.759 was young when I met Richie was probably one of 0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:06.160 the first robbers I ever met, going to West Coast 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.800 and everything. And right away he scooped me. I'm a 0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.759 little bigg I'm riding around Oakland with Richie Rich like that. 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:13.800 He even gave me the full one. I got the 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:17.880 full one five original varsity jacket, the green train, he 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.160 gave that to me. I still slf got that. And 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:23.160 that's how I met Park And did you underground that way? 0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:27.040 And then it was just like full circle again through Kane. Wow, wow, 0:54:27.200 --> 0:54:29.360 all right? And that Big you knew that was the 0:54:29.400 --> 0:54:32.000 first time meeting Big. Oh no, Big was Big was 0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:33.680 Big was different, you know what I mean? Big was 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.120 from New York, so it was more people with people 0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:41.120 because like again I knew Clark Ken you always had smoother. 0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:47.279 Hustler triggered again with no, I wasn't even into um 0:54:47.800 --> 0:54:50.040 spoken ad like that like that. I was just I was. 0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:51.560 I was a new b at that time. You know, 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.640 me smoke at the school like I see when when 0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.640 when bigg and them was a round, I was more 0:54:58.800 --> 0:55:02.560 like season them me season all of them was more 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:05.279 cool and and talk and Big was the big bro. 0:55:05.480 --> 0:55:07.680 But let's keep it real. I wasn't going to the 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:10.400 club with him, see what I'm saying. Okay, so we're 0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:12.000 gonna move on. You know we're not moving on. We 0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:15.879 haven't really discussed that whole scenario. You know, that whole 0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:20.440 show's legendary. That's a moment in hip. Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:55:21.120 --> 0:55:23.319 so you couldn't. So you were there, what happens? How 0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:26.680 does that whole during the show. Normally, because I was 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:29.520 on the tour, we came. It's a segment where we 0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:33.719 would do the freestyle boom. But this particular show, he 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.920 had extra guests to come on as well. So you 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:41.880 know when he said, we're Bill Biggie smalls that to 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.840 see the guarden go that you hear it from the audio. 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.520 This is where this is where you are schooling me 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:53.520 it's partying bullshit out around there. That's the only record, 0:55:53.560 --> 0:55:56.600 that's the only which is which is a hit from 0:55:56.640 --> 0:56:00.799 the soundtrack Who's the Man soundtrack? Yeah, I'm in jail. 0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.040 I think this is we're speaking about. I'm in jail, 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:08.040 So I need you to describe for me because all 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.239 I'm here is party and bullshit. But I'm hearing it 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:18.120 through a Poughkeepsie radio radio station. How important was that 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:20.440 record to New York City and the party and bullshita? 0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:23.880 Because it was it was He was a mixtape legend. 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:28.400 I'm gonna say this, the only the only other person, 0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:32.239 and this is to me, in New York history to 0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:35.800 have pretty much a hit before it was out. And 0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:37.960 the first person that I ever looked at on that 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:41.839 level was Nas. I had a Nas tape floating through 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.560 my project before it came out, you know what I'm saying. 0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:46.400 It was sort of the same with Big. Back then 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.239 you would get teams and it was like so I 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.040 was already kind of like onto him, and he was 0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:53.479 already big, you know what I mean on that level, 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.800 And then it was no brainer once Party in Bullshit 0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:59.320 came out because he was circulated. He has party and 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:03.520 bullshit out there. Yeah, I think Dreams was out to Dreams. No, no, no, 0:57:03.960 --> 0:57:10.279 that was a mixtape that was circular, not playing well, 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:12.640 that was a mixafe free style. But that's what I'm saying. 0:57:12.640 --> 0:57:15.440 It was always so heavy on the mixtapes. It wasn't records, 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:17.200 it wasn't rough it like that was just he was 0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:20.800 already a legend in the street. Yeah, yeah, he was 0:57:21.160 --> 0:57:23.520 because because at that time, that's when puff Puff came 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:25.480 with that market and Puffs marking and Jean's back then 0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:30.760 when he started promoting Craig Macking and he had Yeah. Yeah, 0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:35.680 but so big Daddy Kane says, I'm bringing out my homeboy. Well, 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.800 he don't say anything because Kane is kneplain to nobody. 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:41.160 What was just you there? And next thing I heard 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:43.080 was I knew they was there, but I didn't know 0:57:43.200 --> 0:57:45.600 he was going to have them rock Scooper scrap there. 0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:51.120 School because School wrapped from the beginning, No, he wrapped, Yeah, School, 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:56.440 check it, check it bang bag. Yeah, because School was 0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:58.760 on a on a tour with us as well. So 0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:05.840 you see tupop a big both from you. Not this 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:15.280 moment is legendary. No, I would know even of course, 0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:17.880 how do you know that, you know, because I see 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:21.840 souper together. You know I'm gonna be real with you. 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.320 The superstar to me was Kane. I was just so 0:58:24.480 --> 0:58:26.920 excited that I wrote to the Limo with Kane. I'm 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:28.920 chilling out with Kane. I get to go over Kane's 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:32.320 house and after can fingerpop Mount Donna. Let's be clear, 0:58:32.440 --> 0:58:35.360 Man Donna, I wasn't Man Donna, bro I wasn't here. 0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:37.160 I don't I don't know. I don't know if he did. 0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:40.080 I always that because he'd be like, I ain't do 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.680 nothing like finger pop. He said maybe, he said only 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:46.680 the other week. He never said he smashed though he 0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.760 said that I was. I was just I was the 0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.440 limo with Cane. Let's be clear. The Limo was like 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:57.440 a fandom back then. Yeah, like if you up out 0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:01.560 the limo, you we didn't even jump out the limit. 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.400 Because this is the first time I ever went into 0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:12.480 a stadium like that. The ship lifted off. Yeah, I 0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.600 felt like I was playing basketball, like I was about 0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.720 to go out on the court. Like you had headphones 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.240 when you walk into the game. Yeah, did you walk up? 0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:24.160 Did you walk up a ramp? You walk up? I'm 0:59:24.240 --> 0:59:28.840 starting and I was like look and to see thirty 0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:35.800 like that many people and at this time, and at 0:59:35.880 --> 0:59:39.640 this time, we didn't have social media, so you was 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:42.880 lucky if somebody had a disposable camera or if a 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.720 magazine happened to take a picture or other than that, 0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:48.000 you didn't know. But for me, there was people from 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:52.000 my projects there. So the next morning and it was 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:54.360 like he was at the guarding because nobody would have 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.360 believed me if I told him I was in school 0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.120 before I had a reggae deal, Like I had a 0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.560 reggae deal, but I'm in school telling like yeah, working 1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.960 on the album. Yeah, we know, you know what I mean, 1:00:04.000 --> 1:00:05.800 Like I was a straight liar. It wasn't until my 1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:07.680 song came out. It was like it wasn't lying all 1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:10.440 this time because it was just so far fetched for 1:00:10.520 --> 1:00:12.600 someone to have a record deal. Then you had to 1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.560 know somebody, to know somebody, to know somebody, you know. 1:00:15.600 --> 1:00:18.280 I mean, that's how the game was so controlled, you 1:00:18.320 --> 1:00:21.320 know what I mean. That's why these these guys, these guys, 1:00:21.400 --> 1:00:24.520 these young guys, they they they're so fortunate that you know, 1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:29.720 they can really yeah, one action one night. It wasn't 1:00:29.760 --> 1:00:32.760 like that far us. You had the big dudes and 1:00:33.720 --> 1:00:37.520 hold on, I still got more. How did you mean Kane? 1:00:37.600 --> 1:00:41.000 How did that collection happen? I met Kane? I was 1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:45.520 I think it was the pladium. Um, I was running 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:48.200 around with Woot Sang because Mare. They came out before 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:49.920 me because I had to go through the court system 1:00:50.240 --> 1:00:52.560 with my record deal because you because I was a minor, 1:00:52.920 --> 1:00:55.440 so being that the things happened with Gary Coleman and 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.600 all of them, you had to go to Supreme Court 1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.960 and stand in front of a judge when he gets 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.080 as you commission and he signs you into these contracts 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:07.640 and yeah, full circle. The judge sentence me on one 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:11.200 of my criminal cases as well in the same Supreme Yeah. 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:13.920 So can you imagine that conversation that he had with me? 1:01:14.040 --> 1:01:16.840 You know that that was that was touching. It makes 1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:20.000 you say to him, I'm really fucking this up right? Um? 1:01:21.200 --> 1:01:26.480 So yeah, and they and they had um yeah. Yeah. 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:29.280 I'm on the stage with him and I'm just and 1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:34.040 he tells his manager, Yo, he wants to meet O. D. 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:38.160 B and the girl on stage. That's what he tells 1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:44.040 his his his manager. His manager girl comes back and says, well, okay, 1:01:44.240 --> 1:01:49.200 the OLDB guys here, but that's not a chick, that's 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:52.880 a dude. He's name is Shot and that was it. 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:56.000 And at that point he was like, you'll give me 1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:58.560 your number, right, like like, yo, you're rapped, and I'm 1:01:58.640 --> 1:02:00.640 like yeah. He was like I'm saying if you did rap, 1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:02.480 like you should wrap right. I'm like, wholl He's like, yo, 1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:04.280 taking a number, and then you know, at that time, 1:02:04.360 --> 1:02:08.400 I was like the golden goose egg, We're through the business. 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:10.200 You missed a lot of opportunities like that. You and 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:12.960 jay z on. That's what you're saying. Well, I need 1:02:13.000 --> 1:02:15.120 to say he put anybody on. What I'm saying this 1:02:15.160 --> 1:02:19.840 is that when he um bring me to the you're 1:02:19.880 --> 1:02:21.840 good but good thing I ain't drunk. That would have 1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:23.720 worked if I wasn't drunk, because he didn't say that, 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:25.480 And I don't know why. I'm thinking, did you say that? 1:02:28.280 --> 1:02:38.400 Say that this sounds real good? Keep drinking? Good about answered? Right? 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:42.800 That's a guy, right, um damn the movies we at 1:02:43.640 --> 1:02:47.240 he brought brought stage. Okay, so no, he he asked 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:49.720 for you and the dB. I'll go back whatever. I'll 1:02:49.720 --> 1:02:52.200 try to get the contact with him. You know, dudes, 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:54.560 just the Elders Show we're handling it, we'll make the 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:57.680 contact whatever. A lot of other opportunities like that. I 1:02:57.800 --> 1:02:59.560 read in jay z book he wanted me on the song. 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.280 I never he never called me, but he said he did, 1:03:02.680 --> 1:03:07.040 but I don't know back to that. So then, um, 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.479 one day I'm playing basketball my projects in the middle 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:12.120 of my projects because I thought I was going to 1:03:12.200 --> 1:03:14.880 the NBA. That's what I thought I was. Now I'm 1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:20.080 trashed now yeah, yeah, I thought I was gonna be 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:24.080 a basketball player. And they're telling me they're going Boom 1:03:24.120 --> 1:03:26.880 because that's my nickname, Boom, right, that's my My family 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:30.760 calls me Boom. So like boom running through projects now magic, 1:03:30.880 --> 1:03:34.440 it's my projects is a long waterway to the basketball yo. 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:39.560 And they're running Big Daddy caters on bullshe I'm like 1:03:39.800 --> 1:03:43.680 what Big Daddy And I'm like what, And now I'm 1:03:43.760 --> 1:03:46.680 running back. So I get to him. He like this out. 1:03:46.760 --> 1:03:48.720 I'm like, say, like what you're doing. I'm like none. 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:50.760 He's like, yo, you want to roll with me. I'm 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:53.200 like yeah. He's like, YO, tell your mother that you're 1:03:53.200 --> 1:03:55.880 gonna roll me. I run upstairs. I lived on the 1:03:55.960 --> 1:03:59.360 A four elevator broad because back then, your key is 1:03:59.400 --> 1:04:04.600 on your chain. Yeah, that's my kid, can clip my mama. 1:04:04.800 --> 1:04:08.680 Not home? Fuck it, I'm out, jumped in and called 1:04:08.800 --> 1:04:12.280 boom going. I was in Virginia somewhere. Anybody thought I 1:04:12.400 --> 1:04:18.200 was missing. But I'm chilling. I'm chilling grown women like 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:23.560 Kane is the dude. Grown women is feeding me French fries. 1:04:24.960 --> 1:04:27.680 And he was always calling me your son, feed my son, 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:33.720 no things like I was. Know what I'm saying, like, hey, 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:35.880 it's cool, it was cool to be me. You know 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:39.800 what I'm saying. What I'm saying. So did I come back? Right? 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:41.720 I come back and he lets me out front of pods. 1:04:41.720 --> 1:04:45.600 I'm hyping. I got me getting money, brought me my 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:50.200 first pier silk box. Oh this prince darkness I'm talking 1:04:50.200 --> 1:04:53.280 about right now, I'm hyped. What I do. I run 1:04:53.360 --> 1:04:56.960 the Rizard crib, run not with the silk boxes. Everything 1:04:57.040 --> 1:05:03.600 still im He's a kid, so he's gonna do. And 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:07.240 they're looking at me like just trying to make you 1:05:07.280 --> 1:05:11.720 a sell out something to this this was he's trying 1:05:11.720 --> 1:05:13.880 to make you smooth and boxed up that she don't win. 1:05:13.960 --> 1:05:16.240 No smooth boxes and you can walk a shower. And 1:05:16.320 --> 1:05:19.040 now I'm confused, like I liked the boxes. I want 1:05:19.080 --> 1:05:23.640 to wear the boxes. They feel smooth. I'm wearing these ships, 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:28.760 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I was height 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:31.560 what you couldn't sell me. I might have worn for 1:05:31.560 --> 1:05:34.280 a few days because they were so smooth. It was 1:05:34.320 --> 1:05:36.479 different than the bbs. You can jump in the shower 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:38.760 and take him out and just go and throw them more. 1:05:38.880 --> 1:05:41.280 He drive you have b I didn't have them, but 1:05:41.320 --> 1:05:43.440 I used to stealing for my cousins, so they used 1:05:43.440 --> 1:05:45.040 to have them, and I used to rock him. That's 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:47.000 how I got the first time my cousin smacked me 1:05:47.080 --> 1:05:49.520 with a big fish. I wore was addas out his 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.880 shell tools. I was probably a side four and his 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:54.040 ships like a nine. And I'm in the project taking 1:05:54.080 --> 1:05:59.880 ships like this. Crazy. You can call my sneakers on. 1:06:00.920 --> 1:06:04.360 That was a death sentence in the eighties, random top. 1:06:04.520 --> 1:06:06.080 You know what, they thought? He was a girl. You 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:09.520 know the kid in the Golden Child movie with a girl. 1:06:09.640 --> 1:06:12.360 It was a girl. I never knew it. All right, 1:06:12.480 --> 1:06:15.120 we're gonna move on with QuickTime. It's not so quick. 1:06:15.280 --> 1:06:19.120 It's not so quick, alright, b Street or crush grow 1:06:21.600 --> 1:06:25.080 Oh okay, you know why for me. It was just 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:29.000 the whole thing of like run DMC and and and 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:35.400 uh Curtis blow and Russell. It just showed that time 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:38.080 and then grind I felt like, yeah, I could be 1:06:38.400 --> 1:06:41.880 I could be that too. One day, okay, the next 1:06:41.920 --> 1:06:48.560 of the next, next, well now, I mean I'm New York, 1:06:48.680 --> 1:06:51.840 next everything New York. But NIXT something even though sometimes 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.960 it's hard to be a knicker vodka hard sometimes oh 1:06:56.200 --> 1:06:59.120 saw here the NIXT fan. But I did big up 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:01.160 to my man. But hey, I'll tell you one thing. 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:03.280 We got one of the best merchandise in the world. 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:07.920 Yeah I should don't drop Okay, the box or video 1:07:08.120 --> 1:07:13.680 music box, video music box, hand down a shot out 1:07:14.800 --> 1:07:16.800 we got We got a big because the box was 1:07:16.880 --> 1:07:19.200 more like commercial. It's like kind of if you made 1:07:19.240 --> 1:07:20.800 it to the box, you kind of made it kind 1:07:20.840 --> 1:07:25.200 of because people were they were buying the slots in 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:30.360 the box. You called it, Ralph, you had to I 1:07:30.480 --> 1:07:32.480 remember that time to like if you wasn't dope, he 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:34.640 wasn't getting played. Now they're gonna play your ship because 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:41.400 you might slipping onto the table. Biggie up, bigger, Mr 1:07:41.440 --> 1:07:43.160 Man right there, take a shot for you. Well, I'm 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:44.920 gonna say you like this, I'll pick both of them. 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:47.280 I picked both of them. Wanted you to pick both 1:07:47.320 --> 1:07:53.560 of them because both of them, you know, but we 1:07:53.640 --> 1:07:56.560 need but but I love No. Yeah, we're coming back 1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:58.400 because you got you gotta drive a big Yeah. I 1:07:58.400 --> 1:08:01.720 got tattooed big. That's one of my favorite rappers. Man. Okay, 1:08:01.720 --> 1:08:03.400 we're gonna get through a quick time and slim. Let's 1:08:03.400 --> 1:08:05.800 come back to big. Remember that, and then we go 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:14.640 Scarface or ice Cube mm hmm. Both of them was instrumental. 1:08:15.720 --> 1:08:22.280 Damn it. Good ship myself. You can't pay for you can't. 1:08:22.320 --> 1:08:25.559 That's hard. That's my ma wanna cleansing myself right now. 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:31.719 By the way, you got the ultimate lantine on bracelet 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:35.720 right there. Every everybody uncle got that same bracelet, and 1:08:35.840 --> 1:08:39.160 every Spanish family they got that same bracelet. I'm telling 1:08:39.200 --> 1:08:41.840 you that's that's that's an ultimate real Latino ship. Okay, 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:44.640 what did I say? All right, boom white man, Right, 1:08:45.880 --> 1:08:47.600 I gotta take this first, right now, you gotta take it. 1:08:57.160 --> 1:09:00.479 This is extra round of song. No, this is last 1:09:00.680 --> 1:09:21.080 call for rel Kanye. I agree, premar just Blaze dreama 1:09:23.760 --> 1:09:31.360 podcast or radio podcast. Just keep coming up the late 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:42.519 this no more Jay Z who nahs on jay Z. Well, 1:09:45.000 --> 1:09:47.840 I'm gonna say this right, I'm gonna say I'm gonna 1:09:47.840 --> 1:09:50.519 say no, No, I'm gonna say this. It's yeah, you're 1:09:50.520 --> 1:09:54.200 gonna do that anyway. But I'm saying this how I'm 1:09:54.200 --> 1:09:58.280 gonna say it is both of them at different times. Yeah, 1:09:58.360 --> 1:10:03.240 that sounds like yeah, because I'm listening to a certain 1:10:03.320 --> 1:10:06.479 vibe like nas Nas educates me like he makes me smart, 1:10:06.560 --> 1:10:09.040 like he makes me look for books. I'm like, I 1:10:09.080 --> 1:10:11.080 don't know that. I don't know what that is, but 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:14.200 that's sound fly. I need to do some history. J 1:10:14.560 --> 1:10:16.840 just wakes me feel like, you know, I can take 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:28.640 over the industry. Okay, all right, this is clearly the 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:33.200 Dominican and public in Colombia because boltang, it's a wool 1:10:33.240 --> 1:10:41.080 tang inside answer. Fourth disciple or true master m hmm, 1:10:42.479 --> 1:10:49.080 fourth disciple true Damn, that's crazy. I gotta see both 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:54.200 of them. We came to play, baby the game. We 1:10:54.479 --> 1:10:56.760 came to please. I'm taking the babies. I don't give 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:00.439 you gotta finish, gonna finish it, man, let's take to 1:11:01.200 --> 1:11:12.080 come on. Damn, I'm gonna stick. I'm not gonna how 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:14.280 you get loose. No, I'm not gonna let my PEPs 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:17.000 because he already get a peep. I'm gonna stick with it. 1:11:17.080 --> 1:11:19.880 I'm gonna stick with it. Okay, con Tho, No, I 1:11:19.960 --> 1:11:22.040 got it wrong. I'll tell you one thing. You ask 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:24.479 some questions that I wasn't expecting. This whole little game 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:27.720 that's this is fly Yeah yeah, come on bro, come 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:29.880 on bro, we we were here with you, baby. Okay, 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:32.280 this is one I don't know where you're gonna go with. 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:42.800 And I'm very curious. Red Man or a Zy Damn bro, 1:11:43.880 --> 1:12:07.200 it's like easy, that was real, I don't know, or 1:12:07.320 --> 1:12:12.720 Minister Society. You gotta remember you from. So I made 1:12:12.760 --> 1:12:15.000 the Jews. I mean I like mentes, you know what 1:12:15.000 --> 1:12:16.880 I'm saying. But that wasn't really my culture. It was 1:12:16.960 --> 1:12:19.599 more of an educational thing for me, But for Jews. 1:12:19.640 --> 1:12:21.400 I felt like when I went to Bow Dagger and 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.519 he pop Poppy, I felt like that could have been me. Yeah, 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:31.640 I'm into that. Just make some monch with you to that, 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:44.799 all right? Jersey Drive or Who's the Man? Jersey's Drive? Definitely, 1:12:45.680 --> 1:12:48.160 it wasn't who was the man? Wasn't that wasn't that like, 1:12:48.920 --> 1:12:53.200 wasn't Lover and Doctor wasn't it cops or something? They 1:12:53.240 --> 1:12:55.439 were like cool cops though they was trying to make cops. 1:12:56.920 --> 1:13:00.559 I mean it was funny. It was funny, all right, cool, 1:13:00.680 --> 1:13:07.840 all right, this I really need to notice one. Yeah, 1:13:08.320 --> 1:13:10.640 this is my Colombian and I don't know why I 1:13:10.680 --> 1:13:14.160 got Colombians Dominicans making this list. This is they can 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:18.920 be born at any time. They can be born at 1:13:18.960 --> 1:13:23.760 any time any time they No, no, I'm just saying. 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:26.719 I said that. I said Dominican and Columbia is making 1:13:26.800 --> 1:13:29.519 the quick time of slab. They could be born at 1:13:29.520 --> 1:13:35.600 any point. A pay them off. I really need an 1:13:35.640 --> 1:13:40.360 honist answer because we come from the truth school, but 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:44.000 we liked it. One of them. We both come on 1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:54.320 and be hammer over their lives. Yeah, hammer first handed, 1:13:54.360 --> 1:13:59.040 ain't here humble for bumy ham hu Hamdle was first 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:12.680 and hammers and people that he's everybody with him. I 1:14:12.720 --> 1:14:17.240 ain't doing it with other nig Yeah, definitely, I ain't 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:19.200 gonna find I did it before you. You ain't never 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:22.479 do it. Do it. Everybody did it. Can't touch all 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:27.640 that you did that still do it? Let me right 1:14:30.040 --> 1:14:32.599 Hammer from Oatland too. Yeah, when I heard it matter 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:37.000 if she searched. We need to get we need. I'm 1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:40.120 so sorry. Really be not conscious of everything that goes 1:14:40.200 --> 1:14:50.679 on here, but not really Okay. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty 1:14:50.920 --> 1:14:57.920 or respect mm hmm. Definitely respect because with respect you're 1:14:57.960 --> 1:15:01.240 getting loyalty Now it don't now it matters why they 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:04.040 respect you, and it's a different thing. How will you respected? 1:15:04.400 --> 1:15:09.360 But loyalty I think changes with conditions, you know what 1:15:09.360 --> 1:15:12.080 I mean. Respect will always be somebody earning your respect. 1:15:12.120 --> 1:15:15.480 You can't really funk that up unless you do some disrespect. 1:15:16.400 --> 1:15:19.920 So I go with respect, Okay, like I go over 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:21.960 fair too. I go for fear over love. I don't 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:25.960 fear you go for fear over love, yea rather somebody? Yeah, 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:28.080 because people you love, like you ever noticed, like your 1:15:28.120 --> 1:15:30.120 family right there, are steal from you because you love them. 1:15:30.640 --> 1:15:32.559 But you won't try that ship with somebody that don't 1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:35.240 love them. So don't use the love card on me. 1:15:35.560 --> 1:15:39.040 People more than love. I know, I don't fear anybody. 1:15:39.080 --> 1:15:41.720 What I'm saying is that if somebody fears me rather 1:15:41.760 --> 1:15:43.880 than love me, you cross somebody you love before you 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:46.439 cross somebody you fear. No hear you. But I'm saying 1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:48.920 the person that fears you is unpredictable because they're scared. 1:15:49.320 --> 1:15:53.040 Both are unpredictable. Yeah, respect, you know what I mean. 1:15:53.320 --> 1:15:55.280 I've had the most people who did the hurt fool 1:15:55.320 --> 1:15:57.040 shipped to me was people I loved and loved me. 1:15:57.520 --> 1:15:59.360 Did you hear the baby just said? Baby said, you 1:15:59.439 --> 1:16:03.519 gotta watch envy when you watch hate, because envyous here yea, 1:16:03.920 --> 1:16:11.400 and hate what you meant? All that ship man that 1:16:11.640 --> 1:16:17.920 fear hey then away from here and maybe trying to 1:16:17.960 --> 1:16:20.760 get deep man, come on, got that ship. Let me 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:26.240 take my shot. That guy we're taking He was like, 1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:29.280 you want to just take it? And giggles little get 1:16:29.360 --> 1:16:38.559 drunk so in too deep and you did original deep 1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:41.160 and too deep. What is this story they're telling you 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:44.519 this story about? Because from Marvi's this story is actually 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:48.240 about Queen's dudes who went out of time. That's why 1:16:48.320 --> 1:16:52.160 they kept using the god And that was like yeah, 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:53.640 But then they said it was about some people in 1:16:53.680 --> 1:16:56.840 Ohio with Cincinnati and things like that. I don't know 1:16:56.960 --> 1:16:58.960 because I really wasn't you know at that time, I 1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:01.800 ain't here what it was about. It was like, what's 1:17:01.880 --> 1:17:04.320 these lines and the checks there? All right, let's go. 1:17:04.560 --> 1:17:06.280 But it was a fun set man, it was a 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.479 fun set um. It was it was big because it 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:12.160 was three people from our neighborhood. Actually, in that same movie, 1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:16.840 you had me Hassan who played we Bay. You had 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:19.320 Candle Grills he was also he was all from the 1:17:19.360 --> 1:17:21.479 same neighborhood. So it was a big thing to have 1:17:21.640 --> 1:17:23.759 three of us from the same neighborhood in one movie, 1:17:24.120 --> 1:17:27.839 alongside L. L. Coo J and Omar Epps and Sticky 1:17:27.920 --> 1:17:30.800 Fingers Into being the trail is rapping with L. L. 1:17:31.040 --> 1:17:34.519 Sticky and Omar Epps because Olmar is nice too, and 1:17:34.720 --> 1:17:37.960 we was this is that's just times you can't people 1:17:38.000 --> 1:17:39.920 can't pay for that. So what was you mad when 1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:43.080 Cary said it was in too Deep like mccarth, No, 1:17:43.320 --> 1:17:44.920 I didn't. I said, what the hell is just talking about? 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:49.639 That's not the movie. He wasn't even That's what I thought. 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:51.559 But then I was saying, well, maybe he's in too 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:55.760 deep in something else than I don't know, but I 1:17:55.840 --> 1:17:58.360 know it wasn't the movie. What he was in too 1:17:58.439 --> 1:18:01.600 d I don't know, wasn't the movie. I mean, you 1:18:01.680 --> 1:18:06.200 know what, that's what Kanye said that sober into. I'm 1:18:06.200 --> 1:18:08.600 trying to give him an out bro, I mean what 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:10.760 we don't know what he was meaning? Into deep? He 1:18:10.800 --> 1:18:15.080 could have been into deep, too deep. You can't know 1:18:15.160 --> 1:18:18.320 what Just be clear. We all wrapped. Come on, come 1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:21.360 on we rappers and DJ's here when you say I'm 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:24.960 in too deep like my co fife, he might have 1:18:25.040 --> 1:18:27.000 met something else though he like he said he might have. 1:18:27.160 --> 1:18:29.200 It wasn't the movie because you know that we can 1:18:29.240 --> 1:18:32.080 scratch the movie out because what was he? What was 1:18:32.160 --> 1:18:34.880 he deep? Unless he thought he wasn't unless he thought 1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:41.200 but mcaf but he thought, yeah, yeah, so that's why 1:18:41.280 --> 1:18:44.479 he used that's that's the happen to be that right ship? Right? No, 1:18:44.760 --> 1:18:47.320 what are you talking about? It might could be because 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:50.640 if you don't know somebody else, somebody don't know I 1:18:50.720 --> 1:18:53.160 don't know if it's a writer or whoever it is, 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:55.960 but whoever, if don't you know that line and you 1:18:56.040 --> 1:18:58.320 saw the movie, you didn't wait the movie, you didn't 1:18:59.640 --> 1:19:01.519 if you don has heard about it, wrote that line, 1:19:01.520 --> 1:19:03.880 you didn't want the movie. Yeah, he could have googled 1:19:03.880 --> 1:19:06.480 that because I ain't gonna When I heard, I was like, indeed, 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:08.120 and I said it too, and I was like, who 1:19:08.479 --> 1:19:10.160 was he? Even? Or it might have been a spin. 1:19:10.320 --> 1:19:12.240 Maybe he's just that creative said, oh, I'm gonna say 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:14.960 mcco fight for fuck him up to make him say, 1:19:14.960 --> 1:19:17.320 you say, wait a minute, he's not mccow fighter. Maybe 1:19:17.400 --> 1:19:19.760 he said, oh my drink chats. We'll talk about this 1:19:19.800 --> 1:19:21.360 and then I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. I'm 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:23.680 gonna take a shot. Shot. He tried to clean it up. 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:26.720 He tried to clean it up. In the soundtrack for 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:31.000 that movie. I was in the soundtrack with with the 1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:35.599 Locks with the Nuts Locks. You gotta come on, let's 1:19:35.600 --> 1:19:39.200 take some more. Mom wanna the juel you I'm sorry, 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:41.839 I think he speaks. He speak a whole bunch of English. 1:19:42.160 --> 1:19:44.120 I said, June, when you get did just speak smash? 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:52.840 He said, Nori speaks you guys, what are you trying 1:19:52.840 --> 1:19:57.800 to because he got freckles man, dispect that's got to 1:19:57.800 --> 1:20:02.400 discuss respectful. That's guys like him. Those are the brothers. 1:20:02.439 --> 1:20:10.000 You might be fucking family. You never know. So I look, shot, 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:18.680 we've been through it all. What is the one thing 1:20:19.479 --> 1:20:24.439 that you regret in this in this life or what 1:20:24.520 --> 1:20:27.720 was the one thing you finished wish you finished either 1:20:27.880 --> 1:20:30.920 or you could um the one thing that I really 1:20:31.000 --> 1:20:33.080 wish I could have changed. Is that I wish I 1:20:33.120 --> 1:20:37.000 would have grew up in time to like get my 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:39.639 mom the hell she needs, and I could have saved 1:20:39.680 --> 1:20:43.240 my mom's life. But I didn't know to just take 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.880 a move away. I was just that just that I 1:20:45.960 --> 1:20:48.559 make sure I should have just forced in the woods 1:20:48.640 --> 1:20:51.160 and the force to get better. Like I was just 1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:53.519 thinking like, oh, she's gonna do it anyway, so the 1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:55.880 moms will stay home. That's why I never left, because 1:20:55.880 --> 1:20:59.720 I always feed like, damn I moved. We never left, 1:20:59.760 --> 1:21:03.880 you start, because I felt like if I took my mom, 1:21:04.000 --> 1:21:06.599 Let's say I moved to Queens, right, and I'm living 1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:08.680 out there now my mom's has an addiction, so now 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:11.320 she's running around Queens, and now it becomes the talk 1:21:11.520 --> 1:21:13.599 Queens that my mother's like that at least at home. 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.519 Heybody knew that ship before I was, even it's not 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:19.160 a big deal. So I stayed where I was comfortable 1:21:19.240 --> 1:21:21.840 at for all those reasons. But that's the same thing 1:21:21.920 --> 1:21:25.240 that kept her and myself in that pit. So I 1:21:25.320 --> 1:21:27.000 was like, if I could change anything, I wish I 1:21:27.120 --> 1:21:30.519 was a little more mature in my decision making and 1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:33.400 my thinking because I would have just removed myself from 1:21:33.439 --> 1:21:36.439 the environment. See all along, I'm staying in the rat race. 1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:39.200 I'm get involved in this stupid shot and binging and 1:21:39.240 --> 1:21:41.000 shooting all this dumb ship when all I had to 1:21:41.080 --> 1:21:42.680 do the simple thing to do is you know what 1:21:42.720 --> 1:21:45.040 I'm just But you were a kid man, You were 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:47.400 a kid, and you know what I'm saying, and came 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:49.639 into the industry young. So it kind of stunts your broke. 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.439 But but but it was the best thing that happened 1:21:52.439 --> 1:21:54.240 to me. I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't trade it 1:21:54.680 --> 1:21:57.519 because I know so much. It was pain that came 1:21:57.600 --> 1:22:00.479 with it, but the things that I learned from this priceless. 1:22:00.720 --> 1:22:05.240 All Right, you gonna do another shot with you getting 1:22:06.760 --> 1:22:10.320 We're finishing this. Mama wanna bottle, and I'm finishing face 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:12.240 because you know what shop You don't know if you 1:22:12.360 --> 1:22:15.760 know our show is about giving flowers. Yeah, I got 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:19.400 twelve gold ones. Yeah you know what this might be? 1:22:19.640 --> 1:22:21.479 You know you heard it and this might be it. No, 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:23.400 it's gonna be an n f T. We're gonna do sing. 1:22:23.439 --> 1:22:25.760 You can create that f T for yourself. We're gonna 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:27.599 make n f T those too, well, can y'all sign 1:22:27.640 --> 1:22:31.040 it for me. It's already sign with the drink champs 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:36.040 were short chasing you at all. You're one of them. 1:22:36.120 --> 1:22:39.640 We just started this, so you're I think he's you're 1:22:39.680 --> 1:22:44.760 the fourth person. Yea for the coach. That's that's a coach. 1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:50.560 That's for the coach. That's for So again, I just 1:22:50.680 --> 1:22:54.880 wanted to tell you to your face, man um, how 1:22:54.960 --> 1:22:58.160 much we appreciate your contribution to hip hop. That's what 1:22:58.240 --> 1:23:00.160 our show was about. Our show was about giving even 1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:07.600 flowers while they're alive. We could have interviewed anybody, but 1:23:07.720 --> 1:23:10.400 we want to interview all legends. We want to end 1:23:10.400 --> 1:23:17.160 a few people who have been seasoned like us that's 1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:21.680 been around. And when I did speak to you and 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:26.920 I said, shot, my only problem is you're hitting me 1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:30.280 now that you thought that I said something wrong, But 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:32.840 I said, I did three hundred shows when I said 1:23:32.880 --> 1:23:35.240 something beautiful about you, and you hit me and you 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:37.160 school me real quickly said, but I was in jail. 1:23:37.160 --> 1:23:39.680 I didn't know. I've never seen this ship first. I 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:41.320 just telling me, like, go on online, it's on the 1:23:41.400 --> 1:23:45.960 end of that us. So what I'm trying to tell 1:23:46.000 --> 1:23:49.000 you is that's what our show was about. Our show 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:55.240 was has been, it will continue, and we'll always be 1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:59.799 about picking up our legends. There's plenty of radio stations 1:23:59.840 --> 1:24:03.080 that people can go to when they got something going 1:24:03.160 --> 1:24:07.519 over it, but we want to interview the people that's 1:24:07.560 --> 1:24:11.560 put in that work that got them ten years in 1:24:12.080 --> 1:24:15.559 four than ten years in. And I'm tired of people 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:19.720 saying that washed up or they're over the hill. That's 1:24:19.760 --> 1:24:23.720 no fucking word like that in any other genre and 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:26.439 any other music. So that's the reason why we started 1:24:26.560 --> 1:24:29.639 drink Chat. It was because we want to give people 1:24:29.800 --> 1:24:33.160 their belts back, you know how like Rick Flair run 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:38.040 his belt then you know, Rick Flair might that belt 1:24:38.160 --> 1:24:43.599 is yours forever. Yeah, that's peace, that's peace. Um yeah, yeah, 1:24:43.600 --> 1:24:49.920 I appreciate that. G I appreciate it, but um yeah, 1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:52.200 like you know, and that's the same way I felt. 1:24:52.400 --> 1:24:54.800 I was like, you know, if you go back, it 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:56.800 was funny too, right, just the way the world works. 1:24:57.000 --> 1:24:59.840 They was just asking me, what's what's like? What was 1:25:00.000 --> 1:25:02.960 on your top? I'm like the war report and didn't 1:25:03.320 --> 1:25:05.320 not as soon as this ship came out of my mother. 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:08.640 But it's the truth. I can't like, you know what 1:25:08.640 --> 1:25:12.439 I mean under no, under no circumstances would what y'all 1:25:12.520 --> 1:25:15.519 did for my life. See it's a difference because I 1:25:16.280 --> 1:25:18.760 grew up in the era. But to be a kid 1:25:18.840 --> 1:25:21.240 a fan, See I was a kid a fan too 1:25:21.400 --> 1:25:24.439 at the same time being in this ship office in Champagne. 1:25:24.479 --> 1:25:25.880 But I feel like I just need to get you 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:32.960 funked up alone. He's speaking. No, he's Spanish, he said 1:25:33.040 --> 1:25:40.599 nothing yet you guys like aisha local. No, no Spanish. 1:25:41.000 --> 1:25:47.120 We got to get what are you talking about? Want 1:25:47.160 --> 1:25:49.439 let's do it, June, you're working with you. I'm good 1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:52.200 to you. Yeah, ship, y'all don't know what just happened 1:25:52.240 --> 1:25:56.120 my mind just my computer just cool. Yeah, man, No, 1:25:56.320 --> 1:25:59.040 but it's it's peace. Man. I'm glad. We're glad we 1:25:59.120 --> 1:26:01.760 could we could see here as as grown ups and 1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:03.960 and and work through something, because that's a lot of 1:26:04.000 --> 1:26:06.479 the problems with people today. They don't just take the 1:26:06.560 --> 1:26:08.200 time to work it out and say, hey, yo, bro, 1:26:08.560 --> 1:26:10.640 just how this made me feel and just and and 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:12.080 a lot of time it's like, yo, I didn't even 1:26:12.120 --> 1:26:14.040 make me to make you feel that way. And it's 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:15.920 like okay, all right now speech and now we have 1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:18.200 an understanding. You know what I mean, but it can 1:26:18.240 --> 1:26:20.599 go another way too, that people don't take the time 1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:24.040 to do things the right way. And I commend y'all 1:26:24.280 --> 1:26:27.280 for doing things the right way and you know, correcting 1:26:28.320 --> 1:26:32.040 whatever mistake, whatever we want to call it, it's it's 1:26:32.080 --> 1:26:33.920 water under the bridge, you know what I'm saying. And 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.040 that's why I thank y'all for getting on my podcast 1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:39.559 and just making it, making it smooth and making anything right. 1:26:39.760 --> 1:26:45.840 We fun before, We with you now, and we're gonna 1:26:45.880 --> 1:26:50.040 fuk with you after. And um, you know that's just 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:52.840 what we are. Man. You know, come on, got that. 1:26:53.040 --> 1:26:55.360 I'm like, it's like, it's one more this is it? 1:26:57.600 --> 1:27:01.519 Because he wants you to do. I gotta do because yeah, 1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:05.360 we got got the rugged, the rugged road to recovery. 1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:08.080 That let's talk Let's let's talk about the podcast. Yea, 1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:12.120 let's at the podgrass is you know, dedicating the memory 1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:15.400 of my mother, Um, and I just wanted to create 1:27:15.479 --> 1:27:21.639 a platform. Oh my mother's name, Marilyn Franklin. You know, um, okay, 1:27:21.720 --> 1:27:26.320 think you sir, just because most of the sounds people 1:27:26.400 --> 1:27:27.880 just don't have no way to go to talk to 1:27:27.960 --> 1:27:29.920 when they in those breaking moments, or they just want 1:27:30.000 --> 1:27:31.760 people to listen to them. So it's like, yo, you 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:34.240 know what would be dope. We the community hip hop, 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:37.000 We got a bunch of things where rappers come up. 1:27:37.080 --> 1:27:39.400 You even got gang boundings. But a part of our 1:27:39.439 --> 1:27:42.840 community is the people that struggle with drug addiction and 1:27:43.160 --> 1:27:46.479 and hustling drugs and things like that that made terrible mistakes. 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:49.400 That's trying to correct their errors, a place for them 1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:52.519 to come get their strength and event as well as 1:27:52.600 --> 1:27:55.800 celebrities that's in the same thing, dealing with the same 1:27:55.920 --> 1:27:59.280 issues and just just a just a smooth spot just 1:27:59.520 --> 1:28:02.080 to have comversation, you know what I mean, And you 1:28:02.160 --> 1:28:04.880 take what you take from it, leaving what else back 1:28:05.000 --> 1:28:07.640 on the table, you know what I mean. You got 1:28:07.680 --> 1:28:11.280 audio distribution yet, Um, I just did it through on 1:28:11.360 --> 1:28:13.360 the line. Like me, I just turned to a vigorous 1:28:13.479 --> 1:28:15.720 Internet and just Google everything. So I did it through. 1:28:15.920 --> 1:28:18.760 Um one of those asks. Some Spotify the same way. 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:21.880 You pretty much do it through. Course. Yeah, something's one 1:28:21.920 --> 1:28:24.400 of those, like you know, gets at that level right now. 1:28:24.479 --> 1:28:26.720 But you know I'm listening, bro, I'm here. I want 1:28:26.720 --> 1:28:30.400 to work movies, music, podcast whatever. You know what I mean? 1:28:31.439 --> 1:28:36.519 You back out here. I'm so I'm gonna use the 1:28:36.560 --> 1:28:40.680 bathroom now. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah, I'll say I'll say 1:28:40.760 --> 1:28:48.479 drinks is distribution for what it record? Just wait, wait, wait? 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:50.880 Can the car be in my name? You listen, you 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:58.840 already signed that. I go to the bathroom looking fifteen 1:28:58.920 --> 1:29:03.040 times the wood. You know what happen if you would 1:29:03.040 --> 1:29:04.840 have been on that bus coming down from Clinton and 1:29:06.600 --> 1:29:21.160 you're gonna go down your leg exactly? All right? So 1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:22.639 I just want to take a shot with you again. 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:28.200 Oh Jesus Christ, want to do something. Let's talk about 1:29:28.240 --> 1:29:32.599 double shot. Let's do something alright, alright, double shot? All right, 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:35.400 So let me ask you, shot, what's what's your most 1:29:35.439 --> 1:29:38.840 favorite part of the game. Is it performing the record 1:29:40.200 --> 1:29:47.960 or making the record? Um? Oh yeah, well you can't 1:29:48.000 --> 1:29:50.400 perform the record until you mean right, So, I mean 1:29:50.479 --> 1:29:56.400 I love making it, but ain't nothing like that crowd man. Yeah, 1:29:56.479 --> 1:29:59.240 it's just just like like, yeah, you feel me in 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:04.479 that screen. Man, that's just like it's like dope, uh solo. Yeah, 1:30:04.920 --> 1:30:06.720 So let me ask you now, we need the big 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:10.400 ol stories. Okay, that's what I relaxed for a second. 1:30:12.080 --> 1:30:15.160 Coming at me like like I like it. I like it, 1:30:15.439 --> 1:30:20.360 like I would like so me me and big relationship. 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:24.120 It started, um he was on Columbia and I was 1:30:24.200 --> 1:30:27.040 on Virsion and I used to go. When I was 1:30:27.080 --> 1:30:28.720 a kid, the thing that I used to do was 1:30:28.800 --> 1:30:31.280 go hang out a record labels and radio station. I'll 1:30:31.320 --> 1:30:32.960 just be the kids showing up and they'd be like, 1:30:33.200 --> 1:30:35.080 come sitt in my office, chill and my death shoining. 1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:37.040 Did what I wanted to do everywhere, you know what 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:38.960 I mean. So I used to go up to Columbia 1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:40.920 and the used to be a female my name of 1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:43.200 Taish Harris. You used to be there, so she used 1:30:43.240 --> 1:30:45.000 to let me come show the office and get on 1:30:45.080 --> 1:30:47.920 the computer and just learn and listen and watch and 1:30:48.320 --> 1:30:50.920 how how the businesses ran. And L used to go 1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:53.519 up there too, and so we man we got cool. 1:30:53.640 --> 1:30:55.960 And then throughout the years he was he was just like, 1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:58.360 see back then you could have me meet a rapper 1:30:58.560 --> 1:31:01.160 and he give you your number, and I actually keeping such. 1:31:01.760 --> 1:31:03.719 See now it was the thing of we got exchange 1:31:03.800 --> 1:31:06.439 number twenty times before we actually called each other. But 1:31:06.560 --> 1:31:08.360 back then it was like a B B B BO, 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:10.080 what's up? And then call you back on the pay phone, 1:31:10.120 --> 1:31:12.240 what's up. And then when I started to go to 1:31:12.360 --> 1:31:15.760 Hall arm more because of my drugging drugging choice, I 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:18.760 started to be up there, and then I started to 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:21.719 hang around three nine Lenings. You know, all that around 1:31:21.800 --> 1:31:25.360 that was sparked parts of towns and that was I 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:27.960 know that. Yeah, I don't know about now, but back 1:31:28.000 --> 1:31:30.040 then it was. Back then it was. And you know, 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:31.320 I used to go up there and get my ship 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:33.519 and it was there cam out of liquor store right 1:31:33.560 --> 1:31:35.559 there too at the time. So I used to hang 1:31:35.640 --> 1:31:38.160 out over there, and you know, and then when I 1:31:38.280 --> 1:31:40.960 got my third deal through a woot Sang Records, and 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:43.719 I was doing a man Shout album, I had full 1:31:43.880 --> 1:31:46.519 control over the budget. So then I was like, I 1:31:46.640 --> 1:31:48.680 want to work with who I want to work with. 1:31:48.960 --> 1:31:50.760 So I was like, oh, I need you on this ship. 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:53.640 I got the budget. Here's Bread produced because he was 1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:55.800 making Beach produced a joint and get on the joint. 1:31:56.160 --> 1:31:59.800 And we was actually recording. We had did Furious Anger, 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:03.240 and we was recording the second record, and I was 1:32:03.320 --> 1:32:06.280 in Quash Studios. I'm there and I'm like, l he 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:09.240 wasn't the type of person to bullshit you, so he 1:32:09.320 --> 1:32:11.599 told me a shot, I'm near eight o'clock. He might 1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:13.960 have been a thirty, but he wasn't showing up ten. 1:32:14.320 --> 1:32:16.080 You know what I'm saying. He kept his words. So 1:32:16.120 --> 1:32:18.320 I'm sitting here at eleven o'clock. It's late now, you know, 1:32:18.320 --> 1:32:21.120 I don't remember the exact but so I'm like, yo, 1:32:21.240 --> 1:32:23.639 where the fun is? So I'm calling around, calling around. 1:32:23.880 --> 1:32:26.000 And then I said, okay, let me call somebody from 1:32:26.320 --> 1:32:28.680 like like Lord Finesse in one of them. And then 1:32:28.760 --> 1:32:31.160 he was like, yo, yo, school, he just got shot. 1:32:31.240 --> 1:32:35.200 He's he's I'm like what, just shut it up? And 1:32:35.280 --> 1:32:37.840 and and and and I lost my friend that day, 1:32:38.160 --> 1:32:42.479 you know what I'm saying. And so the day he 1:32:42.520 --> 1:32:45.080 got supposed to go to recording, yeah, he was working 1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:47.760 on music, and he was coming through the other song. 1:32:48.880 --> 1:32:52.400 And because but you have another I have a song 1:32:52.479 --> 1:32:54.200 with him, we could see what I would do was 1:32:54.240 --> 1:32:56.320 book the sessions out, so I knew I was working with. 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:58.240 So we were booked a couple of days of the 1:32:58.280 --> 1:33:00.920 session to do the records. Withell, so we locked one 1:33:00.960 --> 1:33:03.160 in and we had the rest of the week to 1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:06.400 finish the other songs. So then the process of finishing 1:33:06.479 --> 1:33:09.800 other songs, this tragedy just happened during that time, you 1:33:09.840 --> 1:33:11.200 know what I mean. So when it happened, it's just 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:15.479 like that ship sucked me up and you're waiting on him. Yeah, 1:33:16.040 --> 1:33:17.920 he knew something was wrong because you said because he 1:33:18.000 --> 1:33:20.519 was wrong late. I didn't know that happened, but I 1:33:20.640 --> 1:33:22.479 just knew like something because he wouldn't play me like 1:33:22.520 --> 1:33:23.720 you know what I'm saying. He wasn't one of them 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:26.120 dudes to play me out like that's like to play me, 1:33:26.360 --> 1:33:28.240 I'm coming and you don't come them call no show. 1:33:28.600 --> 1:33:31.519 It's like no, he wasn't like that, So that she 1:33:31.720 --> 1:33:34.000 was hurtful, and that's why I got the tattoo. I said, no, 1:33:34.040 --> 1:33:38.880 no matter where I make it at yea, no, no, no, 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.439 why would you think that? I mean, it looked more 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:44.800 like a C than a B. I mean, but but 1:33:44.920 --> 1:33:49.400 it's a it's a calligrapiel. Yeah. But when I was 1:33:49.479 --> 1:33:51.519 in prison it started things too because this is said 1:33:51.600 --> 1:33:53.960 that I didn't know eight one sick crips, So they 1:33:54.000 --> 1:33:55.920 think I'm walking around with an eight one six and 1:33:56.000 --> 1:33:58.600 the sea. I'm like, whoa, so I'm coming on the 1:33:58.640 --> 1:34:01.200 mess online. He said, you about that? Like about what 1:34:01.520 --> 1:34:04.080 he said to tax said, you like it, but like bigger, 1:34:04.400 --> 1:34:07.280 he like six creep I'm like, I don't know what 1:34:07.479 --> 1:34:12.439 you're talking about, and that's not it's bigger, Jesus. But 1:34:12.520 --> 1:34:14.320 I see how it looked though it couldn't look like 1:34:14.439 --> 1:34:17.160 that condor look at yeah, it doesn't look a little bit. 1:34:17.600 --> 1:34:20.040 I did not think it us a seat. So it's 1:34:20.080 --> 1:34:25.160 not as you just said that Jesus, we focused on. 1:34:26.400 --> 1:34:27.640 That's why I got it, because I just said, you 1:34:27.680 --> 1:34:29.400 know what I want. I think it's one of the 1:34:29.479 --> 1:34:34.000 best ms ever, man, and there's not a lot of 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:37.000 people that say they have a bigger health feature. And 1:34:37.200 --> 1:34:41.439 that ran with Tupac and big. I think that's the 1:34:41.560 --> 1:34:48.519 reason why some chimes your door gets shut? What door shut? 1:34:49.120 --> 1:34:51.559 I think the door this industry. You know, you noticed 1:34:51.600 --> 1:34:54.320 inus she pick who they want, pick who they can control, 1:34:54.439 --> 1:34:56.439 or or like, Okay, we can get away with it 1:34:56.520 --> 1:34:58.160 with this guy. This guy is a little bit now, 1:34:58.280 --> 1:35:00.000 we don't want to keep keep him over there, don't 1:35:00.000 --> 1:35:01.960 invite him to this, you know what I mean, because 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:04.040 you stand on principles and morals, so it's like you 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:05.960 have to give up all that to be that, and 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:08.200 for me, it's just not worth it for me, you 1:35:08.240 --> 1:35:09.800 know what I mean. I'd rather stand short and they 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:12.200 remember me for how it was than for me to 1:35:12.280 --> 1:35:16.080 be a sellout for a bag or or anything like that. 1:35:17.000 --> 1:35:20.479 Give this nigga, bis he's a part of the table. Man, 1:35:20.640 --> 1:35:24.280 he's really really sick taking the shot. No more shots, 1:35:24.520 --> 1:35:27.120 no more shots. It's done, it's done, it's done. You 1:35:27.200 --> 1:35:29.720 wanted to let shot? No, there's no more, Juanna, we're 1:35:29.720 --> 1:35:32.599 not mixing. Shut we got we got, we got something. 1:35:32.880 --> 1:35:34.720 Get up something brown because we don't need drinking that. 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:38.960 We got game thrown up to now SA right you 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:43.160 want to do, say yeah, do say but dj come on, 1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:45.360 let's get them drunk. We want them on the table. 1:35:45.600 --> 1:35:47.800 Come on, Joe, get some do put them on the 1:35:47.880 --> 1:35:50.439 table between boys. This is what I would do to them. 1:35:50.479 --> 1:35:54.719 But you know, don't let you go down by yourself. 1:35:54.800 --> 1:36:00.640 You go, mr Mr Lea, you please wrap it up. 1:36:02.280 --> 1:36:12.200 Come on, yeah we know that, Joe. Then how folks 1:36:12.280 --> 1:36:15.839 with you? Joe? Yeah? And you got you play handball 1:36:15.920 --> 1:36:18.360 for real? Just keep it. No, you gotta go off, 1:36:18.439 --> 1:36:21.000 you gotta have ye. But you gotta glove. I don't 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:22.320 like the way you trying to make that a joke. 1:36:22.360 --> 1:36:24.599 Now I'm saying you gotta go out play with the gloves. 1:36:27.040 --> 1:36:31.080 You don't need no clove hen I'll play none of 1:36:31.120 --> 1:36:34.759 that ship. Do I come outside of my gloves? Profession 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:38.120 he's a professionals now, I mean, are you? Are you 1:36:38.280 --> 1:36:40.320 good to when you go to the floor and almost 1:36:40.320 --> 1:36:45.479 straight the deel with I got not only I oh yeah, 1:36:45.520 --> 1:36:51.160 you professional? I'm not right. You know, I got a 1:36:51.200 --> 1:36:54.360 couple of things in my hand. Start burning, yo, shot. 1:36:54.479 --> 1:36:59.000 Let me just tell you something. We really appreciate you, 1:36:59.360 --> 1:37:03.639 not just and drink chance for the hip hop. Hold on, guys, 1:37:03.680 --> 1:37:09.760 hold on, guys. Let me just say I actually, when 1:37:10.040 --> 1:37:14.439 everything happened, I can't say I was disappointed. I guess 1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:17.160 just say I was like, damn, because for me and you, 1:37:17.360 --> 1:37:19.880 we've always been great. Yeah, that's what I was saying. 1:37:19.920 --> 1:37:22.680 I said, you've been the left frack before I said, Yo, 1:37:22.800 --> 1:37:24.200 that's what it was the same way with me. So 1:37:24.280 --> 1:37:27.599 I'm on the obviously side like your world. That's for yourself, 1:37:28.400 --> 1:37:36.599 but for future. Just you know, that's not what we're about. 1:37:37.400 --> 1:37:40.040 What we about is bigg en up our car. Yeah, 1:37:40.080 --> 1:37:44.880 that's that's big ship we were about. It's uplifting our culture. 1:37:46.640 --> 1:37:50.240 And whether you're gonna do a podcast, you're gonna open 1:37:50.320 --> 1:37:55.320 a fresh fried joint. I'm gonna stand behind it because 1:37:55.360 --> 1:37:58.400 you know why, that's what the funk we do over 1:37:58.520 --> 1:38:05.599 here and drink jams. We're here to support, helping hand 1:38:05.720 --> 1:38:11.320 to our legends space and I'm always stand for that space. 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:14.360 So I want you to know that. And I forgave 1:38:14.400 --> 1:38:17.559 everybody who made the blogs and whatever. It's only one 1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:21.000 thing I don't forget. It was a comedian thing. He's funny, 1:38:21.040 --> 1:38:23.040 he said, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get it's funny though, 1:38:23.640 --> 1:38:33.439 I feel like, I mean he did. He did, So 1:38:34.640 --> 1:38:38.519 I'm coming back to comedian Yo yo, comedian girl. He's 1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:41.080 coming for yo yo yo. Here coming for you, big 1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:47.240 looking man now. But not for nothing, No, honestly, man. 1:38:47.800 --> 1:38:50.120 I mean during the time, I ain't gonna lie. I 1:38:50.240 --> 1:38:54.040 had a fucking ball, had all because it was like 1:38:54.160 --> 1:38:56.439 it was a learning experience, right, So the whole thing 1:38:56.600 --> 1:38:59.000 where it was the light because the young boys. You 1:38:59.080 --> 1:39:01.120 gotta blame them, right because when they say, oh, g 1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:04.320 you gotta troll, I'm like, what's trolling? So they say 1:39:04.360 --> 1:39:06.240 you could take this and do this, and so I 1:39:06.280 --> 1:39:16.240 could do that, right. You were supposed to. You were 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:20.479 supposed to, But it wasn't personal. I was. I was 1:39:20.560 --> 1:39:23.160 just I felt like I had to defend. I had 1:39:23.200 --> 1:39:26.680 to defend, right, because all right, since we're here right here, 1:39:27.400 --> 1:39:29.800 when when the statements was said or whatever, right, and 1:39:29.880 --> 1:39:32.799 it was said to groups, it was said to groups 1:39:33.080 --> 1:39:35.560 along with my name, but the difference between me and 1:39:35.600 --> 1:39:39.640 the other groups that was said, I'm by myself. So 1:39:39.800 --> 1:39:42.320 it put that name and that that that that that 1:39:42.479 --> 1:39:45.760 that world flunky and non existent with my face. And 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:50.160 not only that, my daughters in college. This is number one, Bro, 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:53.160 my kids gotta live with that ship. Oh that's your dad, 1:39:53.320 --> 1:39:55.240 that little you know what I'm saying. So I was like, no, 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.160 I die before I do that ship. You know what 1:39:57.200 --> 1:39:59.600 I'm saying. That That's what I was defending. You know 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:02.080 what I'm saying, because it wasn't the first time that 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:07.719 someone said that. Um, when the clan was making a storm, 1:40:08.080 --> 1:40:10.960 there was groups that they didn't want. There, there was 1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:13.400 they didn't really want killer the other groups that was 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:15.960 not you know, that was part of the Aphilias whatever 1:40:16.000 --> 1:40:18.120 you want to call us. They didn't want us. They 1:40:18.200 --> 1:40:21.160 just wanted to clan. And rightfully so, because it's your show, 1:40:21.160 --> 1:40:23.120 I don't hear a funk. You can't have whoever you want, 1:40:23.960 --> 1:40:27.680 but judge my music, judged my career, and I got 1:40:27.760 --> 1:40:29.400 nothing to say. You could say it's the whack of ship. 1:40:29.400 --> 1:40:32.040 You could say I'm terrible on screen. Hey do what 1:40:32.160 --> 1:40:34.920 you do, but a character flaw that is not me. 1:40:35.720 --> 1:40:38.000 I can't. I can't allow that. And when I walked 1:40:38.040 --> 1:40:40.640 the prison yard, dudes that got natural life took a 1:40:40.680 --> 1:40:42.800 pack of cigarettes for me pay me back on time, 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:44.600 not because they were scared of me, but as a 1:40:44.680 --> 1:40:46.920 respect of how I carried myself. So that's what I 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:49.400 was defending. And that's why I was so adamant and 1:40:49.479 --> 1:40:53.880 so and so disappointed. Not angry because I'm going to 1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:56.599 the penitentiary. I wasn't going to consentually, that was out 1:40:56.640 --> 1:40:59.320 of it because I know, but there was a time 1:40:59.400 --> 1:41:01.880 in my life where the result would have been the 1:41:01.920 --> 1:41:04.800 grave order penitentiary because I would have been smoking that 1:41:05.000 --> 1:41:08.200 dust and I would have been thinking, these days, a 1:41:08.280 --> 1:41:11.479 bigger plot. They're trying to kill me there, Loman. I 1:41:11.479 --> 1:41:14.759 would have been bugging the funk out and then cool. 1:41:15.040 --> 1:41:17.960 I mean, you wish, but you know what I'm saying, 1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:21.120 But that's what that was my mentality. What I'm saying. 1:41:21.200 --> 1:41:23.840 But I'm glad that everything worked out the way it 1:41:23.960 --> 1:41:26.400 worked out, because it definitely was a blessing. You know 1:41:26.400 --> 1:41:28.200 what I mean. I'm not gonna be an idiot like 1:41:28.360 --> 1:41:31.280 you know, you're like, y'all ain't fucking so we brow 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:36.120 the motherfucking dirt off the back of this shining I am. 1:41:36.760 --> 1:41:42.200 I did that before this. I'm gonna tell you some shing. No, 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:43.840 this is what I'm saying some ship. And that's why 1:41:43.880 --> 1:41:45.360 I was like, what the fund is this? Because I 1:41:45.400 --> 1:41:47.360 remember it was not too long ago. Right after I 1:41:47.439 --> 1:41:49.280 did Glad, I got a message from one of the 1:41:49.360 --> 1:41:52.080 pages like yo, pull up and I said, word, here's 1:41:52.120 --> 1:41:54.559 my math. And then it was months I didn't hear nothing. 1:41:54.920 --> 1:41:58.439 And then let no, I didn't. I didn't know why. 1:41:58.479 --> 1:42:00.920 I know, actually I thought you were saying on Joe buttons. OK, 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:03.800 let's get to that with what I was when I 1:42:03.920 --> 1:42:06.280 was as well, yeah, you know what I'm talking about 1:42:06.320 --> 1:42:08.760 it come on, because but this is what I thought. 1:42:08.880 --> 1:42:11.400 So I don't know what. It wasn't facts, nothing was facts. 1:42:11.439 --> 1:42:13.439 It was just what I thought, right, So I'm like, 1:42:13.600 --> 1:42:16.040 damn it reached out and said come on the show. 1:42:16.200 --> 1:42:18.360 Then I don't hear nothing. After I give my number. 1:42:18.600 --> 1:42:21.320 Then months later it's like, I'm a flunking what the 1:42:21.479 --> 1:42:24.640 full ship? By the way, let's just be clear with you. 1:42:25.160 --> 1:42:27.160 You know, I know what happened. You said what you said, 1:42:27.439 --> 1:42:29.120 and you said what you said about sons of men. 1:42:29.240 --> 1:42:32.439 That's fine, but my whole life calling myself a retard, 1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:36.080 you know, yeah, but it's the problem you call another 1:42:36.200 --> 1:42:41.120 person problem. Even if both of y'all were toughting on 1:42:41.200 --> 1:42:43.720 the bus and you called me, how are you gonna 1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:51.760 call me? What the moment you call me? You know 1:42:51.760 --> 1:42:53.280 what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's what 1:42:53.360 --> 1:42:54.960 I do. I deal with empathy. That's my main thing. 1:42:55.000 --> 1:42:56.920 I try to see things from not only my point 1:42:56.960 --> 1:42:58.800 of view, from other people's point in view, and I 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:01.400 try to figure it out. And I figured out was Finn, 1:43:01.439 --> 1:43:06.839 don't listen to you, because it clearly heard you say resistance. 1:43:06.880 --> 1:43:09.760 He wouldn't have said. But if Finn was also on 1:43:09.880 --> 1:43:13.479 the back end story, he came in saying, killer army, 1:43:13.760 --> 1:43:16.120 We're gonna kill the bees. So he was just rambling 1:43:16.200 --> 1:43:18.200 that he killer be He thought he knew, but he 1:43:18.280 --> 1:43:21.320 didn't hear the words you said prior, and that was 1:43:23.400 --> 1:43:26.280 understanding understand how it happy. It happens all the time, 1:43:26.720 --> 1:43:30.360 but it happened. My thing was like the patsy, who's 1:43:30.400 --> 1:43:35.559 responsible for letting this ship get released? Right there? Because 1:43:35.560 --> 1:43:38.639 I normally had to watch this ship And somebody said, 1:43:38.680 --> 1:43:44.479 who I wrote yourself that is washing draws with cor 1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:50.080 Craft right now to take him another tendant. I'm gonna 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:53.160 tell you. I'm gonna tell you I'm sorry because we 1:43:53.360 --> 1:43:55.680 were together and we did have a meet and this 1:43:55.840 --> 1:44:00.080 saying that should have never because it wasn't intense? Is 1:44:00.479 --> 1:44:02.600 that the way what we was trying to say was, 1:44:03.160 --> 1:44:05.000 and if you really look at the whole for this, 1:44:05.240 --> 1:44:09.439 there's no one could be bad. As we said, we 1:44:09.640 --> 1:44:12.840 have this this dude random rand up one of the 1:44:13.520 --> 1:44:18.400 apologize to the whole such a sense, That's what we 1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:22.440 was trying to say. Okay, right, so at that point everybody, 1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:27.599 and then where did it become? So we're separating Flunky 1:44:28.520 --> 1:44:30.640 and a non existence? Right? And that's fine. You can 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:34.080 feel how you want to feel about about the Sons 1:44:34.080 --> 1:44:35.840 of Man when you mentioned them, right, because I can't 1:44:35.880 --> 1:44:38.280 defend no, I didn't mean that though. But what I'm 1:44:38.280 --> 1:44:40.920 saying is, let me just tell you this. I don't know. 1:44:40.960 --> 1:44:44.000 I don't know. I still don't. Actually I think flunky 1:44:44.080 --> 1:44:46.800 is a bad word. That's me. Yeah, but it's a 1:44:46.840 --> 1:44:48.439 bad word. You know why I killed me? Or when 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:50.360 I was a little boy, this bad When I was 1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:52.720 a little kid, right, my grandmother used to tell me 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:55.160 in this world stories, I don't want you to be. 1:44:55.479 --> 1:44:57.960 You don't be nobody's fucking flunky. You don't be a thief, 1:44:58.120 --> 1:45:00.519 and you don't be a fucking liar. And also you 1:45:00.560 --> 1:45:02.760 don't have not nobody a place to stay or something 1:45:02.800 --> 1:45:04.680 to eat. So those are the things that I look 1:45:06.120 --> 1:45:09.160 So when that was me, I'm like my grandmothers and 1:45:09.240 --> 1:45:11.600 her grave, Boy, you better go in the projects and 1:45:11.720 --> 1:45:15.240 fight and come back with a bus, grandma. My grandma 1:45:15.400 --> 1:45:19.600 did not say, do not be a retard? What are 1:45:19.640 --> 1:45:22.080 you talking about? I was in the Big Lift, the 1:45:22.160 --> 1:45:32.320 ball Chass, Little Everlasting Sheldon, and we all called ourselves 1:45:34.479 --> 1:45:38.960 the retards, and you know what ship was hanging out 1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:43.200 the junction boulevard and we all fought for the worm 1:45:43.360 --> 1:45:50.479 in the tekiller. Okay, okay, okay, So now so now 1:45:50.960 --> 1:45:57.120 now I know what I'm dealing with. You, I vent 1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:03.360 so words is semantic to me, Like I don't know. 1:46:03.400 --> 1:46:06.880 I don't digg into words. Now. It was five or 1:46:06.920 --> 1:46:10.600 sent words now identified with that. If I identified calling you, 1:46:10.680 --> 1:46:14.840 you're cool now I know I'm yeah. Um. If I'm 1:46:15.600 --> 1:46:19.400 calling you, it's like one of the words that we 1:46:19.600 --> 1:46:21.559 Sometimes we take words and we give it our own 1:46:21.640 --> 1:46:24.240 meaning to it, and sometimes it means something different than 1:46:24.280 --> 1:46:26.680 it could be construed. It happens, brother, it happens. You 1:46:26.760 --> 1:46:30.240 can say the whole hearted. When we had when we 1:46:30.360 --> 1:46:34.200 spoke immediately when everything started transpiring, he told me, He's like, 1:46:34.520 --> 1:46:38.040 I didn't say anything back. I didn't know. He didn't understand. 1:46:38.600 --> 1:46:40.840 I'm like, no, bro, that's that's He's like. He was 1:46:40.880 --> 1:46:42.640 saying that too, because I learned something. You know what 1:46:42.760 --> 1:46:44.360 it is. I'm gonna tell you what it is. You 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:46.000 can't wait there for one. Let me just give this 1:46:46.080 --> 1:46:50.519 brother one. It was called Mega called me call Omega 1:46:50.600 --> 1:46:56.679 said we know you love him? Omega bro that I said, 1:46:56.720 --> 1:46:58.760 Omega what? Because I didn't I didn't know what he 1:46:58.880 --> 1:47:02.479 was talking about. That's the way I said that. He 1:47:02.720 --> 1:47:04.360 and he said the names. Let's say I just say 1:47:04.400 --> 1:47:07.040 that ship what he told them. It's the first time 1:47:07.080 --> 1:47:10.680 me and Comega raised our voice to each other he 1:47:10.800 --> 1:47:15.200 said something I like, I like what the mega said, Chill, 1:47:15.360 --> 1:47:17.800 I'm a senior to Clip and I didn't even know 1:47:19.040 --> 1:47:22.000 good team which brother said, Ship, Damn, you're good at 1:47:22.000 --> 1:47:27.160 what you do, right, Um. But uh we were talking 1:47:27.760 --> 1:47:31.160 yeah because oh because he with the words right, because 1:47:31.200 --> 1:47:34.280 I spent I spent a good decent time with June 1:47:34.760 --> 1:47:37.679 and he has that same problem. You know what I'm saying, 1:47:38.080 --> 1:47:41.360 And I'm like, what about But I didn't realize said 1:47:41.400 --> 1:47:43.680 after me and you spoke that time for the first time, right, 1:47:43.720 --> 1:47:45.600 and we was doing and I was explaining to you 1:47:45.720 --> 1:47:48.200 where I seen, what where the force was or whatever, 1:47:48.439 --> 1:47:50.400 and you was like, oh, Ship, I didn't see it 1:47:50.520 --> 1:47:52.760 that way. And then it was like okay. Then I 1:47:53.080 --> 1:47:55.800 wholehearted me like I told you once we had understanding 1:47:55.880 --> 1:47:58.519 and you've seen where I came from. That's all I needed, 1:47:58.720 --> 1:48:01.200 even like I told you for when we spoke off camera, 1:48:01.240 --> 1:48:02.800 I said, we don't even got to visit this ship 1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:05.640 on here because all I wanted as men to know 1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:07.760 where I stand as a man, and looking at your 1:48:07.800 --> 1:48:10.400 eyes of how I felt, that don't change how I 1:48:10.520 --> 1:48:13.679 felt and how we can move forward, don't change because 1:48:13.720 --> 1:48:16.800 now like I know y'all more now because we went 1:48:16.880 --> 1:48:24.479 through something you got earlier. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, listen, 1:48:24.520 --> 1:48:27.680 this is your this is this is your platform. Just 1:48:27.760 --> 1:48:29.759 in case you don't know it, let me say it again. 1:48:30.200 --> 1:48:34.320 Reiterated face the basement. You can promote and you got 1:48:34.439 --> 1:48:37.559 pink toneenails tomorrow, I got the Rugger Road to Recovery 1:48:40.560 --> 1:48:43.120 Concepts dot com. You can stream. You can stream my 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:46.479 music because now they said Jack Villers said that, y'all. 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:53.479 So that's the podcasts tell us, tell us about the 1:48:53.520 --> 1:48:56.800 bast Oh. The podcast is about about recovery, all types 1:48:56.840 --> 1:48:59.680 of recovery, substance abuse, recovery, career, because we are on 1:48:59.800 --> 1:49:03.440 the we're all just all all types of mental health recovery. 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:06.120 Just just if you broke your leg and they're putting 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:09.200 you on pills, and that's what happens. They take away 1:49:09.240 --> 1:49:10.760 the pills the next thing you know, you're looking for 1:49:10.800 --> 1:49:13.560 the fix and now your stone code dope head, you 1:49:13.640 --> 1:49:16.679 know what I mean. So it's just about just getting 1:49:16.680 --> 1:49:19.519 a community to share information and say hold on, you 1:49:19.560 --> 1:49:21.200 don't just what you can get a little help and 1:49:21.520 --> 1:49:24.280 maybe if you are going you you you at the 1:49:24.320 --> 1:49:26.760 point in overturn let's slow it down a little, one 1:49:26.800 --> 1:49:29.800 step at a time, just to a smooth level. And 1:49:29.920 --> 1:49:31.760 that's it. And as long as I do that, I 1:49:31.880 --> 1:49:34.360 feel like my job is done on that. As far 1:49:34.439 --> 1:49:37.639 as the music, UM, I got iso Mestrical Concepts where 1:49:37.640 --> 1:49:43.160 I streamed my music. UM yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 1:49:43.160 --> 1:49:44.519 that's what I heard. You have to do, create your 1:49:44.520 --> 1:49:46.920 own website and tell me to come here and um 1:49:47.280 --> 1:49:50.479 stream your own music. So that's what I do, mestric Concepts, 1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:53.280 and um, I have a joint. I actually have a 1:49:53.320 --> 1:49:57.240 record out right now called Mercy Made Me. It's Rockness 1:49:57.320 --> 1:49:59.920 is on the hook and um I got about it 1:50:00.000 --> 1:50:03.880 all j Pain on it and I guess Mickey Facts 1:50:04.000 --> 1:50:09.479 is on it. Oh yeah, with Petty Cracking and Cracking Dutch. 1:50:09.560 --> 1:50:12.200 I got a drink with him, shout out to me 1:50:12.280 --> 1:50:14.479 and goals got a record coming out to yo. What's up? 1:50:14.520 --> 1:50:16.120 I would love for you to get on a joint cam. 1:50:16.200 --> 1:50:19.160 Can we get the Come on man, I'm saying we 1:50:19.240 --> 1:50:21.640 can call it just like a song. We're gonna make it. 1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:24.479 We're gonna let's check it out with the shows. Funky 1:50:24.880 --> 1:50:29.799 the song shot him and Norviega Flunky Color, the Funky 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:38.720 that's do what's ye takes us send me some ship. 1:50:38.920 --> 1:50:42.519 Yesterday I was so mad because I was like, Damn, 1:50:42.600 --> 1:50:46.000 I don't want to write like I just gotta walk. No, 1:50:46.280 --> 1:50:49.519 I'm gonna write you could I get my ship back? Shot? 1:50:49.760 --> 1:50:55.040 You shut up? He was always take a shot with us. Alight, cool, 1:50:56.160 --> 1:51:01.160 chee the weeze, Papa Cheese. Who's going down? But it's mad. 1:51:01.280 --> 1:51:03.000 It's good, but it's steaks. So I don't want you 1:51:03.040 --> 1:51:05.240 don't want to smoke with nobody on versus let's keep 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:09.080 it real versus. The only person I could do a 1:51:09.200 --> 1:51:12.719 versus with his myself A k to rougets show Lord's 1:51:12.760 --> 1:51:18.400 Generation versus man show and h he's regga this. Yeah, 1:51:18.479 --> 1:51:20.040 but you know what I meant, he would come out. 1:51:20.080 --> 1:51:25.240 He would together though. Yeah, that's that's local vicious, but 1:51:25.360 --> 1:51:27.800 that's not the same thing that's not here. I would, 1:51:27.840 --> 1:51:33.040 I mean, honestly, the only lot a really really I 1:51:33.200 --> 1:51:37.519 think would it be fun? Probably because he's probably been around. 1:51:37.560 --> 1:51:41.639 It has to be somebody have an extensive an extensive record, 1:51:41.680 --> 1:51:43.439 you know what I'm saying. I have albums I have featured, 1:51:43.520 --> 1:51:45.120 So it has to be somebody that has that type 1:51:45.160 --> 1:51:49.360 of body of work. Um, maybe somebody like Bleak. I mean, 1:51:49.479 --> 1:51:53.200 I could see that. I'm not calling out anybody I'm saying, 1:51:53.240 --> 1:51:55.960 you say, you know, because that would be that would 1:51:56.000 --> 1:51:58.040 be saying our old records. If I was calling him out, 1:51:58.040 --> 1:52:00.200 I'd say, spits some new ship and we go right down. 1:52:00.920 --> 1:52:05.600 So that's something different going right now. But anybody in 1:52:05.720 --> 1:52:07.880 my category, I ain't jumping out the window. I ain't 1:52:07.880 --> 1:52:12.400 saying I want to go out. You came, I said 1:52:12.479 --> 1:52:14.599 his name, I said, I feel like he's the only 1:52:14.720 --> 1:52:19.280 one that could probably get in the ring with me. 1:52:21.200 --> 1:52:23.360 You gotta think a k the rugged shall On and 1:52:23.479 --> 1:52:30.000 On ship is real Man shall Furious Single co Defendants, 1:52:31.320 --> 1:52:35.559 Uh Show, Improved jay Z, Big Daddy came, Little Vicious 1:52:35.600 --> 1:52:37.680 if you want to party, and sure, it's a lot 1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:41.439 of records I've done seven oh two that got forgotten about. Maybe, 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:45.560 but when you hear him motherfucker's it's like it's and 1:52:45.800 --> 1:52:50.320 and and and and I don't think that anybody besides myself. 1:52:51.240 --> 1:52:53.679 I don't know if I could say he wanted to nine, 1:52:53.800 --> 1:53:00.040 I think he's I didn't. I didn't was that I 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:08.400 was now you your manager right now? You know? But honestly, 1:53:08.520 --> 1:53:10.720 right other than him. Let's let's let's break it down right. 1:53:11.000 --> 1:53:13.840 If you go with Criss Cross, absolutely not. Are you 1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:19.640 going with actually Chris Cross the only thing? It's only one? 1:53:21.520 --> 1:53:25.960 How you're going too fast? He already, soldier boy, alright 1:53:26.360 --> 1:53:32.120 he did. Alright, hip hop hip hop will be talking 1:53:32.640 --> 1:53:35.360 say me against the hip hop er. Don't put me 1:53:35.680 --> 1:53:39.920 say Chris Cross because one thing Cris Cross one passed away. 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:41.840 We can't. Yeah, you can't do it. You can't do it. 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:45.840 I mean as the what you got, I went too 1:53:45.880 --> 1:53:50.439 far after that is what you're gonna do. Let's think 1:53:50.439 --> 1:53:59.960 about this. Can a little bit that's called sound class 1:54:02.479 --> 1:54:05.320 sound okay, so a sound class not a versus the 1:54:05.439 --> 1:54:08.240 other the other artists that could possibly I'm thinking from 1:54:08.280 --> 1:54:10.560 that time that that would have that a much that 1:54:10.760 --> 1:54:13.200 much credits do they need, you know? I mean, don't 1:54:13.240 --> 1:54:15.200 count the songs that if we wrote for people that 1:54:15.640 --> 1:54:17.920 if you can do those suits because you know my 1:54:18.000 --> 1:54:20.640 ghostwriting says, we didn't even talk about that, but you 1:54:20.720 --> 1:54:23.439 are ghostwriting stories and you ain't telling us I wrote 1:54:23.479 --> 1:54:27.559 Raven simone album. Come on man, we're going wrong here right? 1:54:27.880 --> 1:54:31.680 What read the credit? Ell Yeah, Mr Elliott and me 1:54:31.960 --> 1:54:34.400 was the writers for Raven Simone from the Cosby Show. 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:37.560 We're about and you're not gonna talk about this. I mean, 1:54:37.720 --> 1:54:39.480 it is what it is, the first day of school, 1:54:39.560 --> 1:54:43.600 ravens the frame and check the credit. It would have 1:54:43.720 --> 1:54:45.520 to be somebody that's been around for a while, that 1:54:45.640 --> 1:54:47.960 has several albums. And the only reason I say somebody 1:54:48.080 --> 1:54:50.520 like to the caliber of Bleek is because he has 1:54:50.560 --> 1:54:53.000 big records with jay Z. But if he takes them 1:54:53.040 --> 1:54:55.840 records away and it's just me and his records, I 1:54:55.920 --> 1:55:00.360 don't think anybody could I like it. I mean, and 1:55:00.440 --> 1:55:02.720 it's not a shot because this is stuff that's done already, 1:55:03.160 --> 1:55:05.800 So I'm not saying if a DJ could do that 1:55:06.040 --> 1:55:09.080 and put them together and play it out. But it's 1:55:09.120 --> 1:55:11.880 also the type of m C. I'm a different type 1:55:11.920 --> 1:55:13.920 of MC than a lot of these dudes. They don't 1:55:13.960 --> 1:55:16.400 share the pain I share. They can't relate to what 1:55:16.480 --> 1:55:18.400 I'm talking about, Like they don't know, like they got 1:55:18.520 --> 1:55:20.720 to liver my balls and scraped my driding cough, Like 1:55:20.840 --> 1:55:22.960 you don't know what it's like to take a fucking 1:55:23.000 --> 1:55:25.680 piece of meat and bread and wrapping and plastic and 1:55:25.720 --> 1:55:27.480 put it on the stock and tied to the fucking 1:55:27.520 --> 1:55:30.040 heat of the eat. You can't funk with me. You're 1:55:30.120 --> 1:55:33.800 Nigga's living in fake land, not him particularly, but that's 1:55:33.840 --> 1:55:35.600 just how I failed as an artist, as an MC. 1:55:36.000 --> 1:55:38.160 But that's the old catalog versus Then you got this 1:55:38.240 --> 1:55:40.760 new world ball ship that Nigga just got smoked overnight. 1:55:41.160 --> 1:55:43.800 And if Nigger want to talk about wrap for today, 1:55:43.840 --> 1:55:46.720 I'll smoke him there too. So I mean, I ain't 1:55:46.840 --> 1:55:48.800 turned down no college. If Nigga wants to smoke, I'm 1:55:48.800 --> 1:55:50.800 gonna bring it. But just know what you're getting into. 1:55:50.880 --> 1:55:53.760 I've been around a long time and I was learned. 1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:56.320 I learned from the best. I learned from the best. 1:55:57.720 --> 1:56:00.200 Brother was the whole clan getting jews from them? Well, 1:56:00.200 --> 1:56:02.200 it was getting jews from Kane Well, it was getting 1:56:02.240 --> 1:56:05.120 jews from Fred Williamson's. Well was l L. It's like 1:56:05.280 --> 1:56:07.560 my arsenal are the people that I talked to and 1:56:07.640 --> 1:56:09.560 that gave me the tools and know and think who 1:56:09.600 --> 1:56:12.640 I am and move hard more. It ain't nobody that 1:56:12.760 --> 1:56:17.400 has that. If they do, like, bring them out, but 1:56:17.560 --> 1:56:22.200 you don't want it with a little vicious all right, 1:56:22.360 --> 1:56:25.160 we at, But then we only got one song together. 1:56:27.760 --> 1:56:29.640 But let me ask you this, what about a little. 1:56:30.280 --> 1:56:32.480 Is this straight hip hop? Was just legend because I've 1:56:32.520 --> 1:56:36.760 never seen a reggae reggae I gotta get my But 1:56:37.400 --> 1:56:40.400 you mean on dream chance? Is this straight hip hop? Want? 1:56:40.680 --> 1:56:44.120 I want to he might be some different ship right now? Yeah, 1:56:44.120 --> 1:56:49.120 it was sufficious. Here's my man. We talked about with 1:56:49.200 --> 1:56:53.280 Red Alert last week and we talked, Yeah, that's my boy. 1:56:53.280 --> 1:56:55.640 I'll get yeah, yeah, but I can't do it first. 1:56:55.680 --> 1:56:57.240 But even Visius, that's my boy. But you don't got 1:56:57.360 --> 1:57:00.960 enough albums with me. And that's reggae. You know what 1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:04.640 I mean? I got a k to Rugged show Lost 1:57:04.680 --> 1:57:15.520 Generation Lowe. Look, come on, man, I'm not bro bro. 1:57:15.680 --> 1:57:17.960 I'm just come on nor me. That's like coloring book 1:57:18.040 --> 1:57:20.360 raps like you want me to battle niggers, that's like 1:57:20.440 --> 1:57:23.680 coloring like I wanna let me do somebody that's been busy, 1:57:23.960 --> 1:57:26.240 Like I've brat with Big El, I brat with Big 1:57:26.280 --> 1:57:28.720 Al in hell mons. None of them niggers could do that. 1:57:29.640 --> 1:57:32.240 That's real, none of them not. And I don't want to. 1:57:32.280 --> 1:57:33.800 I'm not seeing I don't want to do like I'm 1:57:33.840 --> 1:57:35.720 taking shot. But I'm just saying we go with facts. 1:57:35.880 --> 1:57:39.960 It's not personal. Mury Over here somewhere. It's not enough. 1:57:40.120 --> 1:57:43.760 He can't compete with my catalog. Come my category could 1:57:43.800 --> 1:57:49.680 do it. Keith Murray just had it with Fresgro. Absolutely 1:57:49.720 --> 1:57:54.879 not that albums, but let's go. I got five albums 1:57:54.920 --> 1:57:59.320 plus mix tapes and Fijians. I got five all charted 1:57:59.400 --> 1:58:02.120 except for my independent. When I started my independent albums, 1:58:02.200 --> 1:58:04.360 that was the greatest story never told. When I started 1:58:04.400 --> 1:58:06.920 my own independent label in two thousand and three, I 1:58:07.040 --> 1:58:09.440 started this path. So I've been trying to get my 1:58:09.560 --> 1:58:11.520 websites and stuff. Some suit out and three. I had 1:58:11.520 --> 1:58:14.360 bottom up the movement. I had songs like the Dust Jews. 1:58:14.720 --> 1:58:17.520 I had Bonn and Mama Killed the Man. So that's 1:58:17.520 --> 1:58:20.160 a whole underground. That's that's just something that not even touched. 1:58:20.640 --> 1:58:22.520 It's like if we do it that way, because there's 1:58:22.520 --> 1:58:24.440 certain ways you do it. They say you picked twenty songs, 1:58:24.520 --> 1:58:28.080 You go for twenty songs. I got forty songs that 1:58:28.200 --> 1:58:31.200 I comported, so I can go twice. That's why I 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:33.080 said the only person I would do versus with is 1:58:33.160 --> 1:58:37.840 myself Rugged show versus man Chaw. But I ain't got 1:58:37.920 --> 1:58:39.960 those types with numbers, like, let's be for real. You 1:58:39.960 --> 1:58:41.640 know what I'm saying for a business like them, they 1:58:41.680 --> 1:58:45.280 want so it's not about m C and it's about 1:58:45.520 --> 1:58:47.400 well it could be, it could be. It just has 1:58:47.440 --> 1:58:50.880 to be the right pair of Yeah. I mean because 1:58:50.960 --> 1:58:55.440 right now, look they got who Cane and Caress. That's amazing, amazing, 1:58:56.680 --> 1:59:02.440 and I'm like, I'm here. Yeah, let's wrap it up ready, Yoh, 1:59:02.640 --> 1:59:06.080 ain't your should before we go, We're gonna take another shop. 1:59:06.600 --> 1:59:09.360 Let's go dj June. You gotta take another shot, brother, 1:59:11.440 --> 1:59:14.760 because make man proud. Yeah, because he dj' red too. 1:59:15.040 --> 1:59:20.800 That's the Red Man was about flowers. You got gold 1:59:21.000 --> 1:59:27.480 fucking flowers. Oh this is so beautiful. Yeah, man, you please, 1:59:27.600 --> 1:59:29.880 it's like it's bad. I want to I ain't even 1:59:29.920 --> 1:59:33.360 giving it to nobody. It's not you know, you gott 1:59:33.640 --> 1:59:36.920 get it. We're just starting this. Yeah, but things like this, 1:59:37.040 --> 1:59:39.200 it's like the kids sticking up the top five of 1:59:39.280 --> 1:59:43.560 who we gave this fire real ship. I can't take 1:59:43.600 --> 1:59:47.560 a shot. I mean, yeah, it's dope. It's dope. That's big. Deservable, 1:59:48.160 --> 1:59:50.600 so matric this is very I so matting right there. 1:59:50.720 --> 1:59:54.000 The fucker that just said deservable, Yeah, I like that word. 1:59:54.040 --> 1:59:59.720 I'll take it. That word. You can make that with you, bro. 2:00:00.120 --> 2:00:04.280 That's a good never right now, first time drink Shamp's dictionary. 2:00:04.440 --> 2:00:12.840 You started for all the words you're making. We're all 2:00:13.200 --> 2:00:15.560 with all the with all these slangs and everything, and 2:00:15.640 --> 2:00:18.520 you give the meanings to the words. You guys mock 2:00:21.240 --> 2:00:28.000 up concept. Yeah, but see since this is a new 2:00:28.120 --> 2:00:31.560 minor day, uh music. But I gotta get some shoutouts 2:00:32.960 --> 2:00:36.240 first and foremost show follow me on Instagram shot underscore 2:00:36.320 --> 2:00:42.000 Rugged six. He got all, this is your platform, and 2:00:42.120 --> 2:00:44.160 I want you to know that I'm gonna keep looking 2:00:44.160 --> 2:00:47.400 at me in your eyes. And no, it was accepted 2:00:48.200 --> 2:00:53.680 prior to the yeah, that's that's not what we're doing. 2:00:54.360 --> 2:00:58.640 It was actually bigger up. It was like, now, not 2:00:58.760 --> 2:01:00.480 get it from that point, but some signs when you 2:01:00.600 --> 2:01:02.440 see things and it could be in one world that 2:01:02.720 --> 2:01:06.200 everything else disappears. So now it makes sense when you 2:01:06.240 --> 2:01:08.400 watch it. She's oh he was saying that, yo, it 2:01:08.560 --> 2:01:11.760 was actually actually added to them, Like damn. He hadn't 2:01:11.760 --> 2:01:15.280 even apologize, said the fucking the air. I get it, 2:01:15.640 --> 2:01:19.160 but I was just like, like, I didn't get apologized to, 2:01:19.520 --> 2:01:21.360 So I said, I didn't even get apology for none 2:01:21.400 --> 2:01:24.120 of this ship, don't I ain't it. But but you 2:01:24.200 --> 2:01:27.880 always thinking and the reason for is because your legends. 2:01:28.600 --> 2:01:32.040 And the thing about it is the platform is for legends. 2:01:32.960 --> 2:01:35.800 We are not for you know what I'm saying, God, 2:01:35.880 --> 2:01:39.080 the god bodies that come to most of them, Mecha 2:01:39.200 --> 2:01:44.000 number seven for the first two days we are like, 2:01:44.160 --> 2:01:48.680 that's the God too. Were for the people that's been 2:01:48.720 --> 2:01:54.360 here as cold ministers. That's what we're here for. You 2:01:54.400 --> 2:01:56.880 know what I'm saying, Like, I never say I'm not 2:01:57.080 --> 2:02:03.040 God body, not once I elevated the same way everyone elevated. 2:02:03.120 --> 2:02:07.920 That's why my first question to you was big turn hood. 2:02:08.000 --> 2:02:11.600 Look and when they go up state they turned blood 2:02:11.720 --> 2:02:16.440 or Muslim. It's because my knowledge of self has stayed 2:02:16.480 --> 2:02:20.000 the same. That's peace, and I will never change it. 2:02:21.160 --> 2:02:32.720 I'm sorry well right now because but no real talk shot. 2:02:33.280 --> 2:02:35.960 That's why I fell back. I stood back because I'm 2:02:36.000 --> 2:02:39.480 confident in who I am as a man like wise, 2:02:41.520 --> 2:02:44.000 and I want you to know that this is your platform. 2:02:45.080 --> 2:02:49.120 Any time you ever felt offended by this platform or 2:02:49.280 --> 2:02:54.160 whatever you call this platform, no no, no, we're here. 2:02:54.520 --> 2:03:01.120 Were you under the Muslim Master number seven right now? No, no, no, no, no, no, 2:03:01.240 --> 2:03:07.120 no Gods exactly right here and just for future reference, 2:03:07.160 --> 2:03:11.800 if you ever feel offended anything, I'm gonna call you. Now. Yeah, 2:03:11.880 --> 2:03:14.480 I'm gonna call you. It's different. It's different because we 2:03:14.560 --> 2:03:16.640 have an understanding now, so now if but we've been 2:03:16.720 --> 2:03:20.640 had an understanding because no, no, no, listen, God bless 2:03:20.680 --> 2:03:23.200 me for saying this. I could be mad. I could be. 2:03:24.000 --> 2:03:26.840 But you know me and you, we've been always this way. 2:03:27.720 --> 2:03:31.280 I've always seeing you when you said every time I'm 2:03:31.320 --> 2:03:36.280 seeing I was a part of that, seeing you and saying, yo, 2:03:36.400 --> 2:03:40.080 what's sick. Yeah, I wanted you to prosper. I wanted 2:03:40.160 --> 2:03:44.280 you and I would that would never change. So I 2:03:44.360 --> 2:03:49.600 just wanted you to know it. Accept that's real always, 2:03:50.000 --> 2:03:51.280 and that's how I stand. You know what I'm saying. 2:03:51.320 --> 2:03:53.520 We're not example, we moved to it. We gotta understand it. 2:03:53.800 --> 2:03:56.520 It's a beautiful relationship. Now. Look, we're happen a there's 2:03:56.560 --> 2:03:58.440 some some couple of words that got took in the 2:03:58.560 --> 2:04:01.200 wrong way. Now we heah, we're doing like man and 2:04:01.280 --> 2:04:04.480 it's it's it's infinite opportunities for everybody right here. I mean, 2:04:04.520 --> 2:04:10.120 I'm happy. Thank you hold off checking the picture, Let's go. 2:04:14.600 --> 2:04:17.000 Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 2:04:17.080 --> 2:04:19.480 hosted by Yours Truly, d j e f N and 2:04:19.640 --> 2:04:21.720 n O r E. Please make sure to follow us 2:04:21.760 --> 2:04:24.320 on all our socials. Let's at Drink Champs across all 2:04:24.400 --> 2:04:29.000 platforms at the Real Noriegan, I g at Noriega on Twitter, 2:04:29.440 --> 2:04:32.360 mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d 2:04:32.520 --> 2:04:35.120 J e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay 2:04:35.200 --> 2:04:38.160 up to date with the latest releases, news and merch 2:04:38.360 --> 2:04:47.200 by going to drink champs dot com. For more podcasts 2:04:47.240 --> 2:04:51.480 from my heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, 2:04:51.720 --> 2:04:53.600 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.