Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like it's your boy
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Speaker 1: This is one of the episodes I love. This is
Speaker 1: one of the moments I love because not only is
Speaker 1: this man a legend, we recently had discrepantencies or misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: And when you do something that's wrong, or if you
Speaker 1: do something that you thought, um, you didn't mean to,
Speaker 1: but you gotta write your wrongs. And that's what real
Speaker 1: men do. Real men don't base their feelings of a
Speaker 1: boyish behavior. Real men act like real men. And besides that,
Speaker 1: we had the invitation to him, we we we got
Speaker 1: respectful him He's a legend, one of the first child stars,
Speaker 1: not only just a child star, but a child star
Speaker 1: that was like gangster. He's in mad movies, got movies
Speaker 1: with l L, got records with Big Ol, part of
Speaker 1: the motherfucking legendary Well tell you motherfucking clan. But I
Speaker 1: kind of feel like he started his career on his own.
Speaker 1: We don't get to the bottom of that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Movie's gonna talk about this new show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about everything. In case you don't know
Speaker 1: who the funk we talk about Shah, the rugged man,
Speaker 1: page page page. You can't you can't. You can't want
Speaker 1: to be the rugged child no more right, you know what,
Speaker 1: It's one of them things. I don't think I'll ever
Speaker 1: be able to shake it, like Luduwayne can never not
Speaker 1: be accepted. Yee, I don't got a choice. It's like
Speaker 1: I tell people in my age and they still think
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen, Like they don't un to stand the growth.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the beginning, because
Speaker 1: how did you exactly get on? Because I believe we
Speaker 1: heard of you prior to us here and about whoo who,
Speaker 1: Well it will come out of ninety two? What what
Speaker 1: what year was it? Well, my process into the music,
Speaker 1: um Uchang was always the thing of Ruchang for me.
Speaker 1: You know, Um, I'm from Stevens and Projects. You know,
Speaker 1: Um Home and Gholdt Face producer, R and S, Rocky
Speaker 1: and m Yeah like that flow so like and um
Speaker 1: and Knife Prince, you see me, Knife Prince. We met
Speaker 1: in second grade and we were just friends. And Rock
Speaker 1: he was his big brother. They had DJ equipment, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was coming from the Projects.
Speaker 1: I really didn't have that, but I was able to
Speaker 1: go around and see real speakers. Besides, back then we
Speaker 1: used to have part parties, like yeah, DJ dr Rock
Speaker 1: was from Staton Allen and he was that's the Foursome
Speaker 1: seas back and then back in the A so they
Speaker 1: would throw Paul jams. And that's what got me into it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, seeing that and then
Speaker 1: dealing with real life like when my mom's drug addiction.
Speaker 1: It was like when I was sitting in a wrap,
Speaker 1: it was loved. So that kind of gave me the confidence.
Speaker 1: And that's why my rom's always was about out that
Speaker 1: about the struggle, because it was therapy for me. To
Speaker 1: get it out because I didn't really have many people
Speaker 1: to talk to. What age was you when you first
Speaker 1: came out? When I came out, We'll see. This is
Speaker 1: the thing I was kind of. I was outside for
Speaker 1: a long time before I actually got on Mercury from
Speaker 1: the legendary R and B group to force him ds
Speaker 1: there from stat Mallen and Mirk would throw parties and
Speaker 1: he would bring artists to stat Allen and he would
Speaker 1: let me open up to perform. So that's how it was,
Speaker 1: meeting like shoot out Green Daddy, are you naughty? All
Speaker 1: before you know what I'm saying. I got my opportunity
Speaker 1: once I started to do those shows rock Ym and
Speaker 1: R and S who produced the un c S at
Speaker 1: the time. He they started just like, oh, come up
Speaker 1: to the studio and started to let me come around,
Speaker 1: and then I started to. But the thing was, I
Speaker 1: had to get my own tapes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Back then you had to go get the Maxwell teams
Speaker 1: and not saying store. That's what I had to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm so, I would do all types
Speaker 1: of things and no, no, no, thirteenes. Once I had
Speaker 1: to deal we're talking, I'm probably nine. I'm probably like,
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that everything he's saying that him,
Speaker 1: I never had a curve, you I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: my mom's in the street, so it allowed me to
Speaker 1: be outside. So my hustle was go to the store.
Speaker 1: So that's how we'll get my little dollars. Taking bottles
Speaker 1: to the store. That's who I was. That's who the
Speaker 1: Rugged show was. I took bottles to the store. I
Speaker 1: packed back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me, miss, Can I
Speaker 1: help you see your bag with your car? The supermarket?
Speaker 1: That was me drug dealers. Yeah, I'll go to store,
Speaker 1: keep the change. And that's how I fed myself some
Speaker 1: most nice you know. And I brought my tapes and
Speaker 1: started to go up there and create demos. So I
Speaker 1: had finally got a demo. It's called the Bad Little Basket,
Speaker 1: and r and nests and big wigs and God rout
Speaker 1: taking them and he was shopping gp Will at the time,
Speaker 1: and my song was on the tape and they're at
Speaker 1: a meeting, and you know, back then, they would play
Speaker 1: the tape and taper in and go to the other side.
Speaker 1: So I had to meet in the tape go. So
Speaker 1: in all that, I'm a bad little basstid, who do
Speaker 1: you And they're like, who's this little girl girl? Because
Speaker 1: you're so young. Everybody thought I was a girl. Even
Speaker 1: Big Daddy King said, I thought he was a girl
Speaker 1: when I've seen him because my head was white. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but my voice was real, like EMC lightish right,
Speaker 1: And they're like, NA, that's that's my little man for
Speaker 1: my project. They're like, yo, you got a picture of them,
Speaker 1: and it was like yeah, and they gave him a picture.
Speaker 1: It was like yo, we want to sign them. And
Speaker 1: it was just like word and then it was then
Speaker 1: it was just like this little kid from Stevenson Projects
Speaker 1: now got three hundred and fifty hollars because what was
Speaker 1: the first labor side Virgin Records, Virgin Records. That was
Speaker 1: what Janet Jackson was Jackson. Girls gotta smell Janet Jackson. No,
Speaker 1: I actually didn't get jack but I met Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: was calm down nine a kid. Now I see shot that.
Speaker 1: I was. I know what I'm just saying, because that
Speaker 1: sound what I'm saying, y'all went somewhere. I mean, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. I was young because it's easy
Speaker 1: shoot like that. I was happy that man, Mike, when
Speaker 1: I was a little older, when you know you're not drinking,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna drink from Champaine. But I'm on the
Speaker 1: What you want me to pop? You want to pop?
Speaker 1: The Big Boy, the little Home. Honestly, all of it
Speaker 1: looked big boys to me because I like, I heard
Speaker 1: of the Ace of Spade when I was away in
Speaker 1: the magazine. That's like, yeah, that's like big, big, big ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta go big big. Don't leave this
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson story. No, no, no no, We're gonna right into it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So what was you No? No, only reason, I said, Mike,
Speaker 1: because you brought up Janet right I was. I was
Speaker 1: at Sony Studio recording street seven Street. So it's the
Speaker 1: old build, you know, it's a new building. Okay. So
Speaker 1: I'm near the exit smoking, or of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: back door just pool. I see a mask. Yeah they've
Speaker 1: been on the match. Yeah they've been, they've been. They've
Speaker 1: Oh ship, I said Mike Old. I'm like, you know
Speaker 1: right away. Oh, He's like, oh I love you guys,
Speaker 1: I love your music. I was so hyped. I ran
Speaker 1: back and told everybody, and then we all rushed thistly.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to take this is the little cameras like
Speaker 1: we was happy we didn't last five minutes after that
Speaker 1: next thing, the phone ain't brute. Yeah, you guys is
Speaker 1: gonna be moved over to the other buildings security ology.
Speaker 1: I was hyped. You got a picture with Mike's awareness
Speaker 1: this world. It is somewhere in this world, but I
Speaker 1: don't have it. But yeah, I don't have anything. You
Speaker 1: know how this when you get locked up, it seems
Speaker 1: like nothing. You don't have nothing no more. How is
Speaker 1: that right? Because I see a lot of people don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: I went through poems big with him, right, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I did actually go to jail with him. But I'm
Speaker 1: affected just as much as that we met in jail.
Speaker 1: But this bid, the second bit had to be different
Speaker 1: for people knew who he was when he walked through people.
Speaker 1: How was that being someone famous? I didn't happen to
Speaker 1: go back to that life because everyone's on the same level.
Speaker 1: Everyone's the same here, Juliani's everyone's the same amount of commissary,
Speaker 1: So how was that going from where you came from
Speaker 1: to that? For me, I always remained the same. So
Speaker 1: in any situation, I'm always the same You're gonna see
Speaker 1: me the same head. I'm the same way in prison,
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. Celebrating with my family, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: one way. I don't even know this way to be
Speaker 1: and to be myself. So I always took me wherever
Speaker 1: I went, and I gave respect and I demanded respect.
Speaker 1: And that's stat I didn't play games. I didn't play cards,
Speaker 1: I didn't play basketball, I didn't wrap. I used the
Speaker 1: penitentiary as a university. I studied, I wrote, I woke,
Speaker 1: wroked out, and and and I got to see the
Speaker 1: the world evolved without me and keep going without me.
Speaker 1: And that was that was That was hard. That was
Speaker 1: hard when I had to finally, when I made the
Speaker 1: decision to stop reaching out, stop falling, and stop writing,
Speaker 1: stop doing that with your five years, I did six
Speaker 1: six ship. They chipped me out of it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know why. They kept saying five years. Yeah that
Speaker 1: all that BECA kept saying I was born in the
Speaker 1: seventies six, and I'm like, no, I'm seventy seven, bro
Speaker 1: give me another year, but continued, Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: so that's how I carried myself. And unfortunately you know
Speaker 1: there was there was a lot of brothers in there
Speaker 1: that related to me in some way and felt like
Speaker 1: I was their little brother. And and these guys never
Speaker 1: got another opportunity at life, and they knew what I
Speaker 1: was facing. I had. I had a terrible bit. I
Speaker 1: had a seven or fourteen bid. So for those that
Speaker 1: don't know what means, you could have do do anywhere from
Speaker 1: seven years. Yeah, and with that, you gotta walk on
Speaker 1: eight shells. And it was a thing of you know,
Speaker 1: it's all type of things to get into and there
Speaker 1: you know, the drugs is there, the even the women
Speaker 1: because you know, it's even with the CEO, and they
Speaker 1: get the CEO. You get him some drama because he
Speaker 1: liked her and in his mind, that's his girl, and
Speaker 1: they just make up relationships and you're fighting, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you're fighting. They go over something that ain't even yours
Speaker 1: because she told you to start sweeping the steps. They're
Speaker 1: mad that you're sweeping the steps. Now you gotta fighting
Speaker 1: the over sweeping the steps because he feels like you're
Speaker 1: taking his broth. And it's like, bro, we're mates, Like
Speaker 1: this is not you know. So I stayed away from that,
Speaker 1: and it was like a decision. You can stand outside
Speaker 1: of the yard every day and reminisce about all the
Speaker 1: dudes that had it and what you used to do
Speaker 1: in the town, or you can focus on getting in
Speaker 1: these programs and making them working better than yourself. And
Speaker 1: I chose that. Do you do you bumping to anybody
Speaker 1: else that was famous or anybody else that's right? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen me and True Life in Clinton. I've seen
Speaker 1: True Life one day, but he was in a program
Speaker 1: called APPU. I was in our general population, so I
Speaker 1: had luckily, I was coming from the package room and
Speaker 1: I had got through the gate, so I ain't even
Speaker 1: supposed to be in whole. And when you went through
Speaker 1: with them, when they walked, that's like having the man.
Speaker 1: Everything's short of a shot on walk with them, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: you know, it was so boy like. It was up yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. I am, you know,
Speaker 1: shooting back back back to my thing. But I was
Speaker 1: more excited to meet like the legends, like the Jails,
Speaker 1: like like the Wems and like like like like legends
Speaker 1: from the street, like you know what I mean. I was.
Speaker 1: I was excited to meet those guys and just to
Speaker 1: see where they went wrong at and you know, and
Speaker 1: so I said, you know what, I got another chance.
Speaker 1: I can't blow it. So so so how does that happen?
Speaker 1: Now you come home, the woo embraces you. Does what
Speaker 1: happens like the first bit of the second bit, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the second Yeah, this is the second bit,
Speaker 1: this second bit, Um, it was great. It was great
Speaker 1: because I was a man now dealing on man level.
Speaker 1: Before I was you know, I was a kid, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So to finally be recognized and
Speaker 1: dealt with as a man and respected as a man,
Speaker 1: it's a long time coming, you know. Um, for a
Speaker 1: lot of time in my life, I um, I expected things,
Speaker 1: you know, and then when I expected things, I got
Speaker 1: let down. So everything is a plus for me today.
Speaker 1: I lived my life for today and like I just
Speaker 1: embraced everything for today. It's a good one today. I
Speaker 1: don't know about tomorrow, but I'm gonna enjoy this one
Speaker 1: right now. I'm enjoyed being on drink chance because like
Speaker 1: this is a miracle. This is a miracle for me
Speaker 1: in my life. And and like I promised God when
Speaker 1: when I was in that cell, and I broke down.
Speaker 1: I praised with Law and I asked him to fix
Speaker 1: me and fix my life and take everything that's not
Speaker 1: good for me away and put right people in my path.
Speaker 1: And and he did that for me. And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here today, so I want to let you know that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of um Uh joints I was listening to today,
Speaker 1: you get my notes. Um he said everyone's a huddler
Speaker 1: until they get locked up and turned blood or musclum. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: big banks take little band and in New York pnitentiary,
Speaker 1: the two biggest monsters is the homies and the Muslim community.
Speaker 1: And that's just what it is. You see dudes that
Speaker 1: was everything in the world, and you know, and not
Speaker 1: saying that they might not find God and want to
Speaker 1: change their life, and those potent because if we do.
Speaker 1: But sometimes when they's false, you see them when they're home,
Speaker 1: they're not on the d n still they throw they
Speaker 1: crowned soon as they get off the bus. There's mad
Speaker 1: Bibles and Korans and and crowns and koufies in the bucket.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's that's when they're
Speaker 1: repeated because you're not serious with your with your your growth.
Speaker 1: You ever thought New York City would be like that,
Speaker 1: Like you know, um, you're being so young in the game,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you had to travel to California and
Speaker 1: see the differences. Like we had to guard abouties. We had, Um,
Speaker 1: we had poss Yeah, we had posts, we had the spades,
Speaker 1: and we had all of this, but it wasn't really
Speaker 1: per se gangs like even Zulu Nation. Like Zulu Nation
Speaker 1: was actually looked at as something that was positive. And
Speaker 1: then it gets to the West Coast and the Bloods
Speaker 1: and the crypt thing, and I remember us actually laughing,
Speaker 1: not not laughing, but like, look, look like what are
Speaker 1: they doing? They got Jerry Curls and and like why
Speaker 1: are they doing this? And then now New York is
Speaker 1: doing that? Well, um, I'm real about it. I think
Speaker 1: it's just the state of the monitor people. Because some
Speaker 1: people are followers and some people are leaders. It's a
Speaker 1: bunch of followers that follow the trend, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And they don't know no better, they don't know.
Speaker 1: They're just going off what they appeared, what they see,
Speaker 1: what they where they see to be real, and sometimes
Speaker 1: it takes some people their life and then sometimes take
Speaker 1: people in prison forever, and then some people get it
Speaker 1: in between and changes the life around. I think New
Speaker 1: York is following on a whole lot of levels on
Speaker 1: music when everything I think with us, what we did
Speaker 1: was because it was everything we set the trends all
Speaker 1: the time, and what we stopped doing with sticking together.
Speaker 1: It was the time I remember as a kid. As
Speaker 1: a kid, the whole industry was mines. Everybody was my
Speaker 1: big brother Chuck, They big daddy. Can these dudes when
Speaker 1: they've seen you, they grabbed you, they hugged you, they
Speaker 1: told you, and they now you see a dude, it's
Speaker 1: a standoff. You didn't see who's the fly. It's like
Speaker 1: I can't say that the shine he got really all
Speaker 1: I like to say software. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: it was always like that, but it was a great
Speaker 1: time where everyone embraced everyone like when you had it,
Speaker 1: Like when I had an album release party, everyone would
Speaker 1: be there like I couldn't even I didn't even have
Speaker 1: to call people. I do remember that time you ever
Speaker 1: throw a hip hop will be a little level like
Speaker 1: as big as it is, like the verses and all
Speaker 1: this ship is. I mean, I'm happy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy to be a part of it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They see the evolutionary growth.
Speaker 1: Of course it has to change. These kids want to
Speaker 1: do what they want to do, and there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that. Um yeah, but it's growth. Is it's a
Speaker 1: lot to be done because it's all the other things
Speaker 1: that can come from hip hop that we're able to do.
Speaker 1: Use our popularity, use our voices to clean up the community,
Speaker 1: to start businesses, and use our voices just tell people
Speaker 1: how to go about it. Because one thing we lack
Speaker 1: in our community is the information. If I would have
Speaker 1: knew half the things that I've learned along our journey,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have, you know, stumbled as much. And not
Speaker 1: to say I went and made no mistakes, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: stubbled as much. And that's what the other people do
Speaker 1: in their communities. They give them the information when they're
Speaker 1: in high school, they're preparing for their giving them the Jews.
Speaker 1: They're giving them that and they're helping them walk through it.
Speaker 1: I think every in our community, everybody just goes to
Speaker 1: self when they make it. I think that's what for
Speaker 1: Ell said on our he said when he said the
Speaker 1: information we can't hide the information. We have to share
Speaker 1: share the information. And I think, uh, that's something that
Speaker 1: we've been trying to do on Drink Champs. Just the
Speaker 1: crabs in the bucket mentality, Yeah, the crabs in the
Speaker 1: bucket me you got you got those? Ready? Rise? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So this is what we do
Speaker 1: for our legends. You know what I'm saying. We want
Speaker 1: you to know you were way invited, way before this
Speaker 1: dumb sit and you're always gonna be invited. So we
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure you got your flowers. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to your motherfucking face. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I mean. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Come on, come on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your motherfucker what I'm saying, Nah, that's this is just
Speaker 1: for the crib. You know what I'm saying. Roses, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they lasted a couple of years because that's what
Speaker 1: our show is about. What show was about giving flowers. Um,
Speaker 1: it's always been about giving flowers. Are we gonna make
Speaker 1: some mistakes along the way, of course we will. Are
Speaker 1: we gonna make get some mistakes after? Of course we
Speaker 1: will with our hearts and our goal is in the
Speaker 1: right mind and the right frame. It's the great intentions
Speaker 1: and we wanted you to know that face to face.
Speaker 1: Man and man, I my nigga, thank you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So now I need you to go just
Speaker 1: go on and on. But I just counted as twelve
Speaker 1: is right, one plus Stewie Street. That's understands. Understand he
Speaker 1: had to go. So you gotta take me to this
Speaker 1: goes on and on? Shot you made that record? How
Speaker 1: does how do where? What's going on? You were eleven?
Speaker 1: You know it was it was the No. I was
Speaker 1: like thirteen and it was No. Actually fourteen and it
Speaker 1: was a fourteen fourteen fifteen somewhere around and you know,
Speaker 1: I just started get old years with up. But um
Speaker 1: it was the last song for the album. H and
Speaker 1: my manager Wigs He Wiggs was always the uh instill
Speaker 1: in like black history for me, Like different from with
Speaker 1: when I was with the Guards, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was like uh Martin Luther King. He was more peaceful,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I was with the Guards,
Speaker 1: it was more revolutionary. So but he will always he
Speaker 1: had Yeah, I felt but this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it was just the Jews, and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you have to be the reporter. That's who you are.
Speaker 1: You have to show through your eyes, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I said, all right, well I'm right
Speaker 1: through my eyes. And that's what came out of it.
Speaker 1: And because in the line where I said, oh, man
Speaker 1: got shot in the parking lot in front of my building,
Speaker 1: I hain't with his grandchildren. It wasn't actually an old
Speaker 1: man and his grand child. It was actually a dude
Speaker 1: by the name of Tom Reagan that I looked up
Speaker 1: to my neighborhood. He was fly and it's like a
Speaker 1: dude just shot him under the building. It's just like
Speaker 1: I killed him. That was one of my early depths.
Speaker 1: You're not when you're young. You have to see and
Speaker 1: it always affects me because he was one of the
Speaker 1: dudes that had one of those smiles, you know what.
Speaker 1: It seemed like everybody that goes has that smile. And
Speaker 1: then it's like he had that smile, and it was
Speaker 1: just like I never forgot him. And when I was
Speaker 1: writing that and I said, ah, this is what happens
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. So was was like because I you know, Um,
Speaker 1: we interviewed Germaine Duprix, right, and it's something that I
Speaker 1: asked him, like, you know him working with child Stars,
Speaker 1: is he could always get this money from Nickelodeon or Disney?
Speaker 1: Was that ever like people who ever say, calm it
Speaker 1: down was thirteen. By the time you're eighteen, you might
Speaker 1: could be in a fucking Walt Disney. Oh man, it
Speaker 1: was many. It was many relaxed on the god just
Speaker 1: to telling me that to change my narrative to to
Speaker 1: you know, be a little more clean, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um to join him Mature because I did
Speaker 1: a record with Immature. UM called to Love his group
Speaker 1: and they wanted me to join the group. And I
Speaker 1: was wanted he had like to be the rap like
Speaker 1: like the rapper because we did the song and I
Speaker 1: couldn't I doing it and it was a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But you know, coming from the projects, this is what
Speaker 1: I love about coming from where I come from. It
Speaker 1: gives you this thing called fuck it and it's like, yo,
Speaker 1: for my principles and my pride, funk it. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is who I am. I turned down movies because uh,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna kick over a garbage kid, because I
Speaker 1: know if I came back to the project, they're gonna
Speaker 1: kill me. Was kicking over the garbage cans in the project,
Speaker 1: I couldn't have lived, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I based everything off of what I thought that the
Speaker 1: people from my neighborhood would think of me. That it's
Speaker 1: a boat, it's a mindus true, because that's not real life.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't. You should live your real life what people think.
Speaker 1: But as a kid, you're only influenced about what you
Speaker 1: see in your world. So in my book back for
Speaker 1: a long time, I carried everybody else and Ship everybody
Speaker 1: else's thoughts, everybody that I accumulated, and and then it
Speaker 1: was soon when it when it burst and it was
Speaker 1: over and everybody went to their real obs. I was
Speaker 1: still stuck in amazed, like, oh Ship, it ain't no
Speaker 1: real industry, it ain't these things. Really don't love me,
Speaker 1: o ship? This was business? Oh yeah, sorry, kid, this
Speaker 1: is this is business. I'm not like, really your lawyer,
Speaker 1: I ain't come in to court to help you with
Speaker 1: with this is I'm not gonna help you kids. You
Speaker 1: got the budget cold, somebody they're not what and didnt
Speaker 1: reality hits you like, oh ship, that's eighteen you're saying
Speaker 1: started hitting you with that. No, no, but let's song
Speaker 1: shot because this is like your first hit rep year, right.
Speaker 1: How many people finger popped at that time? I was
Speaker 1: at least I don't know why I was clevering. But no, no, not.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. A lot of the women probably
Speaker 1: be in jail right now because I wasn't dealing with
Speaker 1: thirteen years when she was the opposite off. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was getting what I'm telling you. I remember how
Speaker 1: I got my bed. I'll tell you how I got it.
Speaker 1: He was when I was young. The older guys would
Speaker 1: tell you want them, you gotta get the bed. You
Speaker 1: ain't doing that right because I'll be talking to a
Speaker 1: girl I come through the process Puerto Rican? Here, what's
Speaker 1: the guy who told you that? To Puerto Rican? I'ma
Speaker 1: have Cuban, so I don't I don't speak nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: supposed to be eating pussy early. So it was the
Speaker 1: thing like you know, you know, you got a little
Speaker 1: girlfriend and you couldn't come through the bout of the
Speaker 1: building on the bench. Everybody out there hustling, so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know what to do with that. You ain't
Speaker 1: doing the right then, and I'm like, just I am chilling.
Speaker 1: You don't say you mean eating. I'm like that's nasty.
Speaker 1: And he's like, here, you gotta put your whole face
Speaker 1: everything the chin aside. And my superdass was like, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: if you did all this ship that, I can't even
Speaker 1: cut it. I cut it today. It's like two, mom,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's how you get it. That's how you
Speaker 1: get this band. I thought that was just Puerto Rican ship.
Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't even know Cuban Cubans you know cute.
Speaker 1: I did not that they came. You'm okay have black
Speaker 1: to Jamaican's. Don't want that, baby, Yeah, I know a
Speaker 1: few of that, dude though. Yeah, they'd be low riding,
Speaker 1: yeah we call it. Yeah, but a lot of them,
Speaker 1: you know. But you got a thing at the time,
Speaker 1: besides the rap celebrity girls. I was around my age
Speaker 1: and I used to think I would have a relationship with,
Speaker 1: you know, a girl, right, It's okay, let's just strow
Speaker 1: it out. Dude, you're knock. I mean see, there's a
Speaker 1: problem with that, right, because I don't want to seem
Speaker 1: like I wanted them dudes that like talk about some
Speaker 1: old ship. It was twenty years ago. Just be clear.
Speaker 1: We had Nick Cannon sitting in the same table. Oh
Speaker 1: he's a and he said, he said that Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: hurt his feelings and we had to say we had
Speaker 1: to be with him. So you ain't got nothing to
Speaker 1: worry about her. Yeah, he said, he said, listen, he damn,
Speaker 1: I blowing up to the episode. But the episodes out right,
Speaker 1: he said, he ket he kept it real. We had
Speaker 1: to take a couple of shots to start smoking smoke.
Speaker 1: He just smoke me, and he said, he said he
Speaker 1: kept it real. He said he would have stuck by
Speaker 1: her if she would have said that the rage tape
Speaker 1: was real. But he said that she said jal, So
Speaker 1: he was like hi, And then when he came out,
Speaker 1: he was hurt. He said, could he could? He said,
Speaker 1: but he was? He did? Oh s I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends why that's his own motor d
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but I didn't know. You gotta put
Speaker 1: it like knockdown. Who did everybody? Damn? I think it
Speaker 1: was Monica one. No Monica was that I met Monica
Speaker 1: Monica is a cool person, very like Churchy. That wasn't
Speaker 1: really like not to say she was my style, but
Speaker 1: I was into the Bite street girls. But I like
Speaker 1: girls like the girls that I liked. I like like
Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, like like Feed. I'm like like Queen Pin.
Speaker 1: I like girls like that. Okay, okay, I followed. I
Speaker 1: like I like old girls. I like girls like that
Speaker 1: that was in the industry doing this thing on the
Speaker 1: high level, very hat swag they was doing. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I followed all the way through standing
Speaker 1: over respectfully. Actually she's very good person. So I never like,
Speaker 1: never talked to help in that manner. So, um, move
Speaker 1: it on. How did you start acting? What was what
Speaker 1: was the actor who told you it was the first
Speaker 1: The first off I got was to be in the
Speaker 1: Friday Movie to Being Fridays as the little kid Chris
Speaker 1: kicking over the garbage kids. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: ain't doing that. You're going to So when you said
Speaker 1: kicking over the garbage kid, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: They told you not to do it. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do because think about it, right during that time,
Speaker 1: right we're talking the early nineties, you just kind of
Speaker 1: sell out like at that time, it was like, yo,
Speaker 1: you got a movie. It was to sell out, right.
Speaker 1: I remember. There's no disrespect to anybody, but I remember
Speaker 1: it was a time, right because I hung with Cane
Speaker 1: and came, man, that's like, that's like that's all that's
Speaker 1: my heart, right. And he will always give me these
Speaker 1: jews like never sell your publishing this, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to take your career to two
Speaker 1: movies and things like that. And I would come back
Speaker 1: home around the trying to make you a sell out
Speaker 1: and I'm like yo, and then so I'm like nah.
Speaker 1: My mind was like I don't want to be a
Speaker 1: sell out. You know what I'm saying, Like, na, I'm
Speaker 1: hip hop. All that was done radio. You ain't bar
Speaker 1: me throwing stretch you made to the red. This thing
Speaker 1: is dumb. You're being a party. And they're like nah,
Speaker 1: he he you don't wrap us no more. It wasn't
Speaker 1: some commercials and things of money like that. And he
Speaker 1: would said, forget all this against sticking true to the culture.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the bag. And if I got
Speaker 1: to do a flip in the strike commercial, that's what
Speaker 1: they did and it made it sells everybody out at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. But wait, was the frind
Speaker 1: of thing before the til Yeah? Yeah, it was before
Speaker 1: because it's the same director. So when that ain't happened
Speaker 1: for that, he called me back. He said, all right,
Speaker 1: it's not acting, it's just eat in the video. And
Speaker 1: or you're doing this being yourself, he said. I said,
Speaker 1: what is it for? He said, TLC. I was saying,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm on that, and and it was just
Speaker 1: to be in a video. I didn't think of it.
Speaker 1: I didn't think of it as acting. I just thought
Speaker 1: that it's being in the video. But but Friday, did
Speaker 1: you know what Ice Cub was attached to that? I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't really care, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: didn't care because for me, with me and the world
Speaker 1: was coming to a party and rock him giving you
Speaker 1: a DAP or Chuck Deed telling me that I'm the bridge,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, I'm not doing this. I want
Speaker 1: to be accepted, you know what I'm saying on the block.
Speaker 1: I don't really care about that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that's why. But then when he said the video,
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'm not acting. I'm not really
Speaker 1: So I did that and then the next call I
Speaker 1: got was by Fred Williamson for Original Gangster's Original Games.
Speaker 1: And this is one of the things when I can
Speaker 1: say this, if people weren't you, they're gonna find you.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you under the rock and nothing's
Speaker 1: all that you need to be politics and have this
Speaker 1: one that's bullshit. When you if you got interests and
Speaker 1: people see value in you, they're gonna find So that's
Speaker 1: what happened. My phone rang one day. It's an old
Speaker 1: man by the name of Fred Williamson the Hammer. Now
Speaker 1: people who know who the hammer is, they know me.
Speaker 1: I didn't know, so I'm like, who it's the Hammer?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I can't touch this. He like na,
Speaker 1: He's like, no, this is Fred Williamson, he said. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: well what's up. He's like, I want you in the movie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, ask your mama, who who who the Fred?
Speaker 1: Him Williams said, I'm like, yo, you know some dude
Speaker 1: about him Jim browning them? Everybody? Man, they didn't jumped
Speaker 1: up my uncle. You're doing that. You're doing that. I
Speaker 1: don't care about all that ship you're doing. You know
Speaker 1: what they did for black people and movie and films
Speaker 1: and everything you're gonna go and being this film where
Speaker 1: I got a ouncle God bless your soul named she
Speaker 1: Go my uncle Charlie. And he was like when he said,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna do it, You're gonna do it. You're
Speaker 1: going you do it. And that's how I got there
Speaker 1: makes no noise. Un hold on, I got so much notice,
Speaker 1: but hold on, hold on, Oh ship dam and who
Speaker 1: real quick time with Slim today. Uh, these guys you
Speaker 1: don't see the argument the bens they're gonna be Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's mad loud on the side. Bro, you ain't see
Speaker 1: that ship were you said? We're you sending that ship?
Speaker 1: You personally on the group chat I'm talking about earlier
Speaker 1: the um that was a group chat. Okay, cool, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, this is good organic food can
Speaker 1: to Jack Teller. Voso was a part of Jack Teller
Speaker 1: Jack Diller. You know I said, I said, oh eat
Speaker 1: a new ferrycon Jack. He called me. He called me like,
Speaker 1: what's what's got to do with it? Either love or
Speaker 1: hate him? Like they either love him or they hate him.
Speaker 1: He's good. We love him over if we love we
Speaker 1: love him? But our fast day day up in the
Speaker 1: air with him. So all right, cool, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: run through a couple of these, and I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me what what what it means to you
Speaker 1: when I said to a kid of rugged child at
Speaker 1: four a K eight to rugged child in four, damn
Speaker 1: that that little nigga man um because he literally is
Speaker 1: a different person. He wanted to save the world. He
Speaker 1: wanted to bring everybody from his projects with him. If
Speaker 1: I could have, I would have a thirteen. I would
Speaker 1: have had everybody, everybody. I would like to believe through
Speaker 1: my actions and and and maybe you know, the people
Speaker 1: from our neighborhood maybe could tell you better than I
Speaker 1: could probably tell you. But I would like to believe
Speaker 1: that I shared. I shared my my, my money, my fame,
Speaker 1: my life with them. You know, I gave his music
Speaker 1: business more than half my whole existence in the planet,
Speaker 1: you know. And you know I'm hip hop. I dedicate
Speaker 1: my life to this ship. Okay, the Lord's generation. Oh
Speaker 1: he was arrogant, he had some money. Yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: same little little year. But he's yeah, he control now
Speaker 1: he you know, Yeah he's getting some virgin yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's virgin new trial because they had created a rap department.
Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying, it's me, the Loonies
Speaker 1: and scar Faced, a couple of rap. A lot dudes
Speaker 1: was over there. Um yeah, so it transition, but it
Speaker 1: was still under version. Um yeah, I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was having sex. You know what I'm saying. I was.
Speaker 1: You you're scoring now? Yeah. I used to collect phone
Speaker 1: numbers everything, so you know, Uh so I was, I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I was. Yeah, I was a little horn
Speaker 1: though I'm a scorpio two. So I when I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hard. I was busting him down. But that
Speaker 1: was the last generation O man child. That's when ship
Speaker 1: got real. That's got that ship got real. That's when
Speaker 1: it changed from with with you. So now you got
Speaker 1: the honey you're saying the audience to people, Well, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about music. I can't
Speaker 1: I don't know what fans was things. I don't really
Speaker 1: base my life on what that force is. It's just
Speaker 1: like in my personal life and in my community, in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, it started to change. People that was rooting
Speaker 1: for me was for me, but then it was like
Speaker 1: it started to change into jealousy. It started to change
Speaker 1: into because you're next to me. Now you feel you
Speaker 1: should have what I have and you feel that I'm
Speaker 1: stopping you from getting it. And it's not me, it's
Speaker 1: God's blessing me. How are you mad at me for
Speaker 1: him blessing me? Pray and he'll brush you. But that's
Speaker 1: what happened. So it started to turn the Hey, I
Speaker 1: started to get caught fighting, getting caught with guns because
Speaker 1: I ain't know no better, and all I knew what
Speaker 1: to do was yo and get a gun. Was I
Speaker 1: ready to shoot somebody? Absolutely not. I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: I remember fronting in the mirror like I'm on, oh
Speaker 1: my god, one walking with it. I wasn't prepared for that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's what happens with
Speaker 1: a lot of kids and teenagers. We get thrown into
Speaker 1: a a gang, get thrown into business, whether it's hustling
Speaker 1: and being out there, and don't know what to do
Speaker 1: when the real ship happens. So you make these mistakes
Speaker 1: and the only thing that's gonna teach you at that
Speaker 1: point is growth and moaning. When they say you're enough
Speaker 1: enough for this ship, well I took it, Okay, the
Speaker 1: greatest story never told. H I felt that way. I
Speaker 1: felt that way I felt to come into this come
Speaker 1: coming from my struggles. I was born with bron kite.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even supposed to live. I was born at
Speaker 1: six months to having a mother that had me at sixteen.
Speaker 1: Then I was raised by my grandmother, so she died.
Speaker 1: Then I was just outside. My mother was getting high.
Speaker 1: Then I it came a wrapper and got money. Then
Speaker 1: everybody was just around me and flooded my hear and
Speaker 1: telling me it was good for me, it was best
Speaker 1: for me. And I was just a follower. And I
Speaker 1: went down a long road that I didn't have to
Speaker 1: go to trying to be something that I'm not. And
Speaker 1: when I was in prison this last song, I realized,
Speaker 1: I'm not like that. As much as I would like
Speaker 1: to believe, I'll go all the way to funk out.
Speaker 1: I don't. I want a better life. I want to
Speaker 1: live good, I want to be happy. I don't want
Speaker 1: to live every day I have to go to night.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what it did. It it opened, It
Speaker 1: opened the geese. Damn, that was a great ship. Hold on.
Speaker 1: I still got more notes. I got a lot of notes,
Speaker 1: I went in there. Yeah, but did you know this this?
Speaker 1: What more did we gonna disrespectfully speaking? M hmm, good one,
Speaker 1: great one. Actually, I would say this is the time
Speaker 1: you wan ray Kun is not saying yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: um um. I expected. I had a big expectitious right,
Speaker 1: and in my mind I thought that ray Kawan and
Speaker 1: Wos saying should be doing more for me. Right, That's
Speaker 1: where I was at that and I felt that I
Speaker 1: wasn't one that was like again because I had my
Speaker 1: different start, you know what I mean. So I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking for a handout. I was just saying, yo, look
Speaker 1: look what I do. I'm talented, I wrapped, I act.
Speaker 1: Why you not? What's up? Throld me? I'm under the rim.
Speaker 1: So if you're standing in the rim for so long,
Speaker 1: throw with fucking throw it. It's like, yo, what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna take the fucking ball and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw that ship because I'm wide open all the time.
Speaker 1: So but it was I was still immature, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I didn't realize where he was
Speaker 1: at in his life as a man. Because now I'm
Speaker 1: at that place as a man and I see it
Speaker 1: through those eyes. You don't know how to express it.
Speaker 1: I expressed it well on my level because I don't
Speaker 1: say that I didn't feel that way because I felt
Speaker 1: how I felt. I don't know. I'm not taking back
Speaker 1: how I felt at all, but how I handled it
Speaker 1: it was immature and very kitty of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But and after I thought about it,
Speaker 1: when you got that time, when you think about it,
Speaker 1: all the good memories, I'm like, sho, I love this
Speaker 1: nigga like I have great times too. And then it's like,
Speaker 1: once I started to come into my own understanding, I
Speaker 1: owed him an apology and I gave him a sincere
Speaker 1: apology because I understand where it was that because it's
Speaker 1: like your what value was I bringing to him? It's
Speaker 1: like this, I can say, yo, norm I got your number.
Speaker 1: You don't call me right and you can say where
Speaker 1: you don't go me togther, So it's like yo, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: you ain't throwing the ball to me. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: what boy you through to me? And then then that's
Speaker 1: real reality and it's like work, I ain't never throw
Speaker 1: you stuff. If you remember this, please please remember. But
Speaker 1: I swear to God. I had that same conversation, we'll
Speaker 1: do for my hood. He hit me one day, he said,
Speaker 1: you don't call me. You don't call me when you're
Speaker 1: in the hood. And I said, but you don't call
Speaker 1: me when you know I'm in the hood. So who
Speaker 1: the fund is wrong here? Yeah? Yeah, the same conversations
Speaker 1: in life. You have to take responsibility for what you did.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I wasn't hurt or offended by that action,
Speaker 1: but I had to take responsibility for myself and through
Speaker 1: my own personal growth, I was able to see where
Speaker 1: he stood in his life because that's how I sent
Speaker 1: in my life. Like, Yo, if we're together, then we
Speaker 1: brabbling together. We're doing business. And not only we doing business, nigger.
Speaker 1: When my kid has a birthday, you know you're there,
Speaker 1: and you're not only just some party friend or some
Speaker 1: music family, your family family. So it just puts things.
Speaker 1: I was able to put things in its proper perspective.
Speaker 1: Like even with with my finances, I had to learn
Speaker 1: to do that. I make a dollar, I don't got
Speaker 1: a dollar, a quarters for this, quarters to that, quarters
Speaker 1: for this, quarters for that, and then I'm able to
Speaker 1: have a little balance. The same thing with relationships. This
Speaker 1: relationship may just be smoking blunts and getting drunk, or
Speaker 1: she may just be the chick I hang out with
Speaker 1: the go to parties. But she's not gonna come up
Speaker 1: eight hours to the president. What was you stupid for
Speaker 1: thinking she was coming. She's at the next party, idiot.
Speaker 1: And that's reality for yours. When reality strikes and you're
Speaker 1: sitting on that ball with them itchy blankets. God make
Speaker 1: so much that this is a game we played with
Speaker 1: all all of our guests. We know you're not drinking,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna drink for you. Lets you want when
Speaker 1: your homies sitting for you? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wait with June June's out, can you
Speaker 1: come on Papa there drinking. Let's see if you gonna
Speaker 1: hold it down from New Jersey. Motherfucker's is playing dirty
Speaker 1: from the beginning. He's like my people when they put it, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I like it. I like it. Come on here,
Speaker 1: let's see. You got you gotta drink down to drink shins,
Speaker 1: don't represent, don't represent, and get the table. Just get
Speaker 1: on the shots because you got you got. There's a
Speaker 1: second one right on right here. Look if you want
Speaker 1: drink shins, don't get drunk under the table. Let's go.
Speaker 1: You get some water if you want. Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 1: all right. Cool. You gotta stand up because you know
Speaker 1: whatever he's gonna drink. Yeah, what what you want to drink?
Speaker 1: You want to drink? Do say you want to drink?
Speaker 1: I'm drinking something. You can drink my majuana. You can
Speaker 1: drink something Colombia water, watermelon. He don't start speaking Spanish?
Speaker 1: Then you speak Spanish a lot of damn time. Now
Speaker 1: you're talking about me. That means he told about me
Speaker 1: because you don't know he speaks Spanish. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: in with y'all. Stop speaking Spanish. Who speaks Spanish? Cool?
Speaker 1: You can man? Wanna I respect that mama? Who I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna follow you, but I'm gonna respect that mama.
Speaker 1: Wanna all right? Cool? Quick time of slim. You answer
Speaker 1: you can you can say one or the other. Well,
Speaker 1: you could say both. You say both of your man drinks.
Speaker 1: It's nothing you can say no answer your man drinks.
Speaker 1: But we all drink no word, so we are using them. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know which one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know which one you're gonna pick
Speaker 1: on this one. This is really some inside wootang ship
Speaker 1: you have to pour up or expected debt as far
Speaker 1: as what we don't know check it's whatever in your
Speaker 1: mind and if you want us. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you're saying this as if they're m C or who
Speaker 1: I have would relationship with it if it if it
Speaker 1: goes to the relationship, who I'm gonna call in my
Speaker 1: phone first, I'm gonna calling spack and back the side
Speaker 1: of okay if it goes to MCIN sounds like both
Speaker 1: to me, sir with enjoy solo solo. This is good.
Speaker 1: It is good for man. I want to I want
Speaker 1: to say what it is, but I don't want my
Speaker 1: man isn't only be like a freaky I'm but I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like a stick and people thinking
Speaker 1: to don't worry about the water all right, Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you're going with this one. Neither marbdep
Speaker 1: or m O p wow okay, yes, okay O d
Speaker 1: B A big punt O g B or prospect that
Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna get a little crassy puff
Speaker 1: daddy or shug mm hmmm. Have you ever met Shug. Mhm,
Speaker 1: I need to hit the story. But wait, wait, let
Speaker 1: him ask you for answer first. Damn, neither, that's a shot.
Speaker 1: That's a shot, So do the rules of the game.
Speaker 1: I respect that. Let's hear the story before we know
Speaker 1: the reason why. I say neither, right, because both of
Speaker 1: them are real moguls, right, you gotta put daddy story too.
Speaker 1: We'll take them both, right, they're both big moguls, right
Speaker 1: at least when ship was out, he was a big mogul.
Speaker 1: And for what I wanted do in the business, it's
Speaker 1: no room for me to be under a big mogul
Speaker 1: because I want to be a big more so. It's
Speaker 1: nothing so either one of them brothers, But I just
Speaker 1: want to be because you met but you, but you
Speaker 1: met you done with. I didn't there. I met him,
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I met him a crazy way,
Speaker 1: but I met him crazy crazy. I was out in
Speaker 1: California and you know, I'm running around the beach somehow
Speaker 1: and that everything I can hollight career, we probably where
Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, yeah, mallible, Okay, I used to hang
Speaker 1: out like I was. I was when I was out there.
Speaker 1: You know, I hung out in Hollywood. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I really I went to the hood sometime,
Speaker 1: but I was a Hollywood kid, you know me. Um,
Speaker 1: so I meant this female and we start hanging out.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I gotta go by a studio, my
Speaker 1: boy DJ Quick, you know I mean, So I go
Speaker 1: by to check great new men the studio and you
Speaker 1: knew Quick was already right yah yah, Yeah, I met
Speaker 1: Quick is another story. Just it's just one of them
Speaker 1: things that God puts me in your life when they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be there. And I go to the studio
Speaker 1: and I'm with her and they're like, you know, who
Speaker 1: the funk that is? Your baby, mama one. But that
Speaker 1: was over. After that, I said, you got to go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna stopped talking to him, and I guess her
Speaker 1: things always always messing up things for me, But it's
Speaker 1: not like that. And then when I met him, he
Speaker 1: was like, no, I would have been a little man,
Speaker 1: And I was like, they wouldn't have been because you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't really want those type of problems. Understand, I understand,
Speaker 1: can be moving on. This was like two thousand. This
Speaker 1: is like two thousand around. That's how he's doing one
Speaker 1: of the roots and clan albums out there. One of
Speaker 1: them they we wasn't. I was just with them while
Speaker 1: they was recording. Okay, I know what you're gonna go
Speaker 1: with this one. Dr dre Listen. I mean again, see
Speaker 1: if I could have see again he got What is
Speaker 1: it for? Because if it's him, I need both of you.
Speaker 1: It's whatever criterias in your mind. I mean you couldn't.
Speaker 1: That's that's the craziness. I'm trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: you mean because it's like it's just so vast it's
Speaker 1: meant for you to be drinking. If you would be
Speaker 1: drinking this, this game gets better better because I just
Speaker 1: need to know what I can say. As as as
Speaker 1: artists both yea, because it's just it just helps categorized.
Speaker 1: I don't want my words to be misconstued. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, shoes doctor drain over the ris and it's
Speaker 1: like we're just showing about the risk is my big brother.
Speaker 1: I can never We're just gonna drink for you, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna driw you just how you did both of them.
Speaker 1: Have both of them produced for me? That would be
Speaker 1: a would be crazy solent. We're taking a show. We're
Speaker 1: doing both right, on that. Ye both, all right, what's
Speaker 1: he getting? Normous? All right? This one again, the more
Speaker 1: should change it a little bit, but you can make
Speaker 1: him fall. I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it. Method. But well would you like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was gonna change because so method man or Jada
Speaker 1: is okay this one, this one is a little tricky.
Speaker 1: I like this one. I like the one before that.
Speaker 1: Ray or Ghost Ghost okay, yeah, yeah, all right. I
Speaker 1: think we should both all get our ship ready DMX
Speaker 1: or tupap both. There's no way that's one. I keep
Speaker 1: both of them. We got DMX. Oh that's beautiful. Both
Speaker 1: of them were so like they definitely was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Hix never heard seven ship. Yeah, that's the first one.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was gonna be something before. Okay,
Speaker 1: where was that freestyle? That clear? Plaium was nothing? That was?
Speaker 1: What was that? What was? Understand I'm just stand square
Speaker 1: guarding New York super fess understand me. You know that
Speaker 1: ms TO recorded that right, because I got the vital
Speaker 1: it was mr Vil he put off. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what's crazy. I was just going through argue. I actually
Speaker 1: had an argument because they was talking about it, and
Speaker 1: I was in the commerce. I was like, it's a
Speaker 1: free style, and I'm arguing with people when they're like, no,
Speaker 1: what's the record, I'm like, no, it was a freestyle.
Speaker 1: And then he goes, oh, I made it a wreckie.
Speaker 1: So now I go, okay, since it's a rekie, who
Speaker 1: got my publishing? Now? Who took my If it's a record,
Speaker 1: If that freestyle is now a record and it's now streaming,
Speaker 1: it's now getting Royal's, somebody got some money. That's true.
Speaker 1: Is it streaming? I know it's on vinyl. If it
Speaker 1: was made into a record, it's a release. I always
Speaker 1: was under the assumption that it was a freestyle because
Speaker 1: I came up under the time when I was on
Speaker 1: Doop subscribed to us what happened this night? Oh to night?
Speaker 1: I was on Tool. I was young. I was on Tool.
Speaker 1: Big Daddy came everything. So last spots get too Actually,
Speaker 1: how I actually get in to the New Yorkshire We
Speaker 1: I think me in Arizona and King had to literally
Speaker 1: pick me up. It was It's the biggest arcade room
Speaker 1: in the world. It seemed like it seemed like the
Speaker 1: world was video game heaven, and I was in it,
Speaker 1: but we had a plane to catch, and I was
Speaker 1: a kid. I did not want to leave, literally kicking,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to play games like
Speaker 1: I was that kid because it got to a time
Speaker 1: when I wanted just to be a kid. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to do no interviews, I didn't want to wrap.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to play basketball and do what I
Speaker 1: ever did and didn't watch my friends. Yeah, but then
Speaker 1: your friends growing up experiencing real life. They're going to proms.
Speaker 1: You can't go because I'm not even in regular school
Speaker 1: no more. Then they're getting married. I'm still in rapper life.
Speaker 1: And then next thing you know, you with a whole
Speaker 1: new crew that's not even your original crew because they
Speaker 1: grew up and had to go down the road that
Speaker 1: they had to go, and they kick your signs man,
Speaker 1: kick her sons, so kick her sons. Yeah. So and
Speaker 1: so that was. We ended up in New York and
Speaker 1: we was doing I was always a part of the
Speaker 1: tour coming out around it. But this show, since we
Speaker 1: was in New York, he can bring out big Park.
Speaker 1: So Park was Park was like considered East Coast guy.
Speaker 1: This time, let's keep it real shot. He was he
Speaker 1: was his story. I mean, he was like coast, he
Speaker 1: was born out there. He just everybody knows that he
Speaker 1: came out with he was you know, he at that time,
Speaker 1: he even rep New York. He would wrap both um, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I guess he was New York. But you
Speaker 1: felt how did you feel about Yeah? You felt like
Speaker 1: he was a New York dude because he had the thing.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really, yeah, but I see my
Speaker 1: thing is this, I'm funny when it comes to my
Speaker 1: New York. Like I'm really funny with it. And even
Speaker 1: I'm from stat down right, and we like as far
Speaker 1: as the New York thing, it's like sometimes New York
Speaker 1: and throw him on nowand and before it's like it's
Speaker 1: like right, So it's like damn, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It just made it more harder for us to wrap.
Speaker 1: And we just wanted to be like me right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. She's saying I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: really didn't. It's not that I didn't claim him, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like y'all seeing it right when I when
Speaker 1: I throw the y'all throw the queens identified with y'all's
Speaker 1: queens appreciate that I didn't identify with nowhere else, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But did junior head pop? This
Speaker 1: is a nothing like the old school, Like no one
Speaker 1: he broke down Skelly, he broke down Italian ices. No
Speaker 1: one could break down the New York summer unless you
Speaker 1: actually was in that New York sothing like York has
Speaker 1: been in the New York summer. But it's a difference
Speaker 1: from growing up in New York summers. Gonna listen to
Speaker 1: the record, you can tell he grew up with it, Like,
Speaker 1: but what age did he because I've read it. I've
Speaker 1: read a lot of his biography. I because but that's
Speaker 1: what happened because he was dealing with you know, you know,
Speaker 1: the rest of the soul. He was dealing with a
Speaker 1: mother that also was battling drug addiction. So he was
Speaker 1: like an army kid. He'd be in New York, then
Speaker 1: he'd be in Michigan, and he probably moved all the
Speaker 1: way around, so he had pieces of everybody. And that's
Speaker 1: what made him such a great artist, because he was
Speaker 1: able to tap in to the South or to the
Speaker 1: West coast and to that and being related to those
Speaker 1: people and was this is your first time meeting Pop
Speaker 1: was that, No, no, no, I met Park. The first
Speaker 1: time I met Pop was strew a guy by the
Speaker 1: name of Richie Rich from the four or five. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the first person. That's the first person on the
Speaker 1: West Coast follow He was trying to school me just now,
Speaker 1: But that's the first I mean, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I was she I was shot. I
Speaker 1: was young when I met Richie was probably one of
Speaker 1: the first robbers I ever met, going to West Coast
Speaker 1: and everything. And right away he scooped me. I'm a
Speaker 1: little bigg I'm riding around Oakland with Richie Rich like that.
Speaker 1: He even gave me the full one. I got the
Speaker 1: full one five original varsity jacket, the green train, he
Speaker 1: gave that to me. I still slf got that. And
Speaker 1: that's how I met Park And did you underground that way?
Speaker 1: And then it was just like full circle again through Kane. Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: all right? And that Big you knew that was the
Speaker 1: first time meeting Big. Oh no, Big was Big was
Speaker 1: Big was different, you know what I mean? Big was
Speaker 1: from New York, so it was more people with people
Speaker 1: because like again I knew Clark Ken you always had smoother.
Speaker 1: Hustler triggered again with no, I wasn't even into um
Speaker 1: spoken ad like that like that. I was just I was.
Speaker 1: I was a new b at that time. You know,
Speaker 1: me smoke at the school like I see when when
Speaker 1: when bigg and them was a round, I was more
Speaker 1: like season them me season all of them was more
Speaker 1: cool and and talk and Big was the big bro.
Speaker 1: But let's keep it real. I wasn't going to the
Speaker 1: club with him, see what I'm saying. Okay, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna move on. You know we're not moving on. We
Speaker 1: haven't really discussed that whole scenario. You know, that whole
Speaker 1: show's legendary. That's a moment in hip. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't. So you were there, what happens? How
Speaker 1: does that whole during the show. Normally, because I was
Speaker 1: on the tour, we came. It's a segment where we
Speaker 1: would do the freestyle boom. But this particular show, he
Speaker 1: had extra guests to come on as well. So you
Speaker 1: know when he said, we're Bill Biggie smalls that to
Speaker 1: see the guarden go that you hear it from the audio.
Speaker 1: This is where this is where you are schooling me
Speaker 1: it's partying bullshit out around there. That's the only record,
Speaker 1: that's the only which is which is a hit from
Speaker 1: the soundtrack Who's the Man soundtrack? Yeah, I'm in jail.
Speaker 1: I think this is we're speaking about. I'm in jail,
Speaker 1: So I need you to describe for me because all
Speaker 1: I'm here is party and bullshit. But I'm hearing it
Speaker 1: through a Poughkeepsie radio radio station. How important was that
Speaker 1: record to New York City and the party and bullshita?
Speaker 1: Because it was it was He was a mixtape legend.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, the only the only other person,
Speaker 1: and this is to me, in New York history to
Speaker 1: have pretty much a hit before it was out. And
Speaker 1: the first person that I ever looked at on that
Speaker 1: level was Nas. I had a Nas tape floating through
Speaker 1: my project before it came out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was sort of the same with Big. Back then
Speaker 1: you would get teams and it was like so I
Speaker 1: was already kind of like onto him, and he was
Speaker 1: already big, you know what I mean on that level,
Speaker 1: And then it was no brainer once Party in Bullshit
Speaker 1: came out because he was circulated. He has party and
Speaker 1: bullshit out there. Yeah, I think Dreams was out to Dreams. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: that was a mixtape that was circular, not playing well,
Speaker 1: that was a mixafe free style. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was always so heavy on the mixtapes. It wasn't records,
Speaker 1: it wasn't rough it like that was just he was
Speaker 1: already a legend in the street. Yeah, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: because because at that time, that's when puff Puff came
Speaker 1: with that market and Puffs marking and Jean's back then
Speaker 1: when he started promoting Craig Macking and he had Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but so big Daddy Kane says, I'm bringing out my homeboy. Well,
Speaker 1: he don't say anything because Kane is kneplain to nobody.
Speaker 1: What was just you there? And next thing I heard
Speaker 1: was I knew they was there, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was going to have them rock Scooper scrap there.
Speaker 1: School because School wrapped from the beginning, No, he wrapped, Yeah, School,
Speaker 1: check it, check it bang bag. Yeah, because School was
Speaker 1: on a on a tour with us as well. So
Speaker 1: you see tupop a big both from you. Not this
Speaker 1: moment is legendary. No, I would know even of course,
Speaker 1: how do you know that, you know, because I see
Speaker 1: souper together. You know I'm gonna be real with you.
Speaker 1: The superstar to me was Kane. I was just so
Speaker 1: excited that I wrote to the Limo with Kane. I'm
Speaker 1: chilling out with Kane. I get to go over Kane's
Speaker 1: house and after can fingerpop Mount Donna. Let's be clear,
Speaker 1: Man Donna, I wasn't Man Donna, bro I wasn't here.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know if he did.
Speaker 1: I always that because he'd be like, I ain't do
Speaker 1: nothing like finger pop. He said maybe, he said only
Speaker 1: the other week. He never said he smashed though he
Speaker 1: said that I was. I was just I was the
Speaker 1: limo with Cane. Let's be clear. The Limo was like
Speaker 1: a fandom back then. Yeah, like if you up out
Speaker 1: the limo, you we didn't even jump out the limit.
Speaker 1: Because this is the first time I ever went into
Speaker 1: a stadium like that. The ship lifted off. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: felt like I was playing basketball, like I was about
Speaker 1: to go out on the court. Like you had headphones
Speaker 1: when you walk into the game. Yeah, did you walk up?
Speaker 1: Did you walk up a ramp? You walk up? I'm
Speaker 1: starting and I was like look and to see thirty
Speaker 1: like that many people and at this time, and at
Speaker 1: this time, we didn't have social media, so you was
Speaker 1: lucky if somebody had a disposable camera or if a
Speaker 1: magazine happened to take a picture or other than that,
Speaker 1: you didn't know. But for me, there was people from
Speaker 1: my projects there. So the next morning and it was
Speaker 1: like he was at the guarding because nobody would have
Speaker 1: believed me if I told him I was in school
Speaker 1: before I had a reggae deal, Like I had a
Speaker 1: reggae deal, but I'm in school telling like yeah, working
Speaker 1: on the album. Yeah, we know, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I was a straight liar. It wasn't until my
Speaker 1: song came out. It was like it wasn't lying all
Speaker 1: this time because it was just so far fetched for
Speaker 1: someone to have a record deal. Then you had to
Speaker 1: know somebody, to know somebody, to know somebody, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's how the game was so controlled, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's why these these guys, these guys,
Speaker 1: these young guys, they they they're so fortunate that you know,
Speaker 1: they can really yeah, one action one night. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like that far us. You had the big dudes and
Speaker 1: hold on, I still got more. How did you mean Kane?
Speaker 1: How did that collection happen? I met Kane? I was
Speaker 1: I think it was the pladium. Um, I was running
Speaker 1: around with Woot Sang because Mare. They came out before
Speaker 1: me because I had to go through the court system
Speaker 1: with my record deal because you because I was a minor,
Speaker 1: so being that the things happened with Gary Coleman and
Speaker 1: all of them, you had to go to Supreme Court
Speaker 1: and stand in front of a judge when he gets
Speaker 1: as you commission and he signs you into these contracts
Speaker 1: and yeah, full circle. The judge sentence me on one
Speaker 1: of my criminal cases as well in the same Supreme Yeah.
Speaker 1: So can you imagine that conversation that he had with me?
Speaker 1: You know that that was that was touching. It makes
Speaker 1: you say to him, I'm really fucking this up right? Um?
Speaker 1: So yeah, and they and they had um yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm on the stage with him and I'm just and
Speaker 1: he tells his manager, Yo, he wants to meet O. D.
Speaker 1: B and the girl on stage. That's what he tells
Speaker 1: his his his manager. His manager girl comes back and says, well, okay,
Speaker 1: the OLDB guys here, but that's not a chick, that's
Speaker 1: a dude. He's name is Shot and that was it.
Speaker 1: And at that point he was like, you'll give me
Speaker 1: your number, right, like like, yo, you're rapped, and I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah. He was like I'm saying if you did rap,
Speaker 1: like you should wrap right. I'm like, wholl He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: taking a number, and then you know, at that time,
Speaker 1: I was like the golden goose egg, We're through the business.
Speaker 1: You missed a lot of opportunities like that. You and
Speaker 1: jay z on. That's what you're saying. Well, I need
Speaker 1: to say he put anybody on. What I'm saying this
Speaker 1: is that when he um bring me to the you're
Speaker 1: good but good thing I ain't drunk. That would have
Speaker 1: worked if I wasn't drunk, because he didn't say that,
Speaker 1: And I don't know why. I'm thinking, did you say that?
Speaker 1: Say that this sounds real good? Keep drinking? Good about answered? Right?
Speaker 1: That's a guy, right, um damn the movies we at
Speaker 1: he brought brought stage. Okay, so no, he he asked
Speaker 1: for you and the dB. I'll go back whatever. I'll
Speaker 1: try to get the contact with him. You know, dudes,
Speaker 1: just the Elders Show we're handling it, we'll make the
Speaker 1: contact whatever. A lot of other opportunities like that. I
Speaker 1: read in jay z book he wanted me on the song.
Speaker 1: I never he never called me, but he said he did,
Speaker 1: but I don't know back to that. So then, um,
Speaker 1: one day I'm playing basketball my projects in the middle
Speaker 1: of my projects because I thought I was going to
Speaker 1: the NBA. That's what I thought I was. Now I'm
Speaker 1: trashed now yeah, yeah, I thought I was gonna be
Speaker 1: a basketball player. And they're telling me they're going Boom
Speaker 1: because that's my nickname, Boom, right, that's my My family
Speaker 1: calls me Boom. So like boom running through projects now magic,
Speaker 1: it's my projects is a long waterway to the basketball yo.
Speaker 1: And they're running Big Daddy caters on bullshe I'm like
Speaker 1: what Big Daddy And I'm like what, And now I'm
Speaker 1: running back. So I get to him. He like this out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, say, like what you're doing. I'm like none.
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you want to roll with me. I'm
Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like, YO, tell your mother that you're
Speaker 1: gonna roll me. I run upstairs. I lived on the
Speaker 1: A four elevator broad because back then, your key is
Speaker 1: on your chain. Yeah, that's my kid, can clip my mama.
Speaker 1: Not home? Fuck it, I'm out, jumped in and called
Speaker 1: boom going. I was in Virginia somewhere. Anybody thought I
Speaker 1: was missing. But I'm chilling. I'm chilling grown women like
Speaker 1: Kane is the dude. Grown women is feeding me French fries.
Speaker 1: And he was always calling me your son, feed my son,
Speaker 1: no things like I was. Know what I'm saying, like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's cool, it was cool to be me. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying. So did I come back? Right?
Speaker 1: I come back and he lets me out front of pods.
Speaker 1: I'm hyping. I got me getting money, brought me my
Speaker 1: first pier silk box. Oh this prince darkness I'm talking
Speaker 1: about right now, I'm hyped. What I do. I run
Speaker 1: the Rizard crib, run not with the silk boxes. Everything
Speaker 1: still im He's a kid, so he's gonna do. And
Speaker 1: they're looking at me like just trying to make you
Speaker 1: a sell out something to this this was he's trying
Speaker 1: to make you smooth and boxed up that she don't win.
Speaker 1: No smooth boxes and you can walk a shower. And
Speaker 1: now I'm confused, like I liked the boxes. I want
Speaker 1: to wear the boxes. They feel smooth. I'm wearing these ships,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I was height
Speaker 1: what you couldn't sell me. I might have worn for
Speaker 1: a few days because they were so smooth. It was
Speaker 1: different than the bbs. You can jump in the shower
Speaker 1: and take him out and just go and throw them more.
Speaker 1: He drive you have b I didn't have them, but
Speaker 1: I used to stealing for my cousins, so they used
Speaker 1: to have them, and I used to rock him. That's
Speaker 1: how I got the first time my cousin smacked me
Speaker 1: with a big fish. I wore was addas out his
Speaker 1: shell tools. I was probably a side four and his
Speaker 1: ships like a nine. And I'm in the project taking
Speaker 1: ships like this. Crazy. You can call my sneakers on.
Speaker 1: That was a death sentence in the eighties, random top.
Speaker 1: You know what, they thought? He was a girl. You
Speaker 1: know the kid in the Golden Child movie with a girl.
Speaker 1: It was a girl. I never knew it. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna move on with QuickTime. It's not so quick.
Speaker 1: It's not so quick, alright, b Street or crush grow
Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know why for me. It was just
Speaker 1: the whole thing of like run DMC and and and
Speaker 1: uh Curtis blow and Russell. It just showed that time
Speaker 1: and then grind I felt like, yeah, I could be
Speaker 1: I could be that too. One day, okay, the next
Speaker 1: of the next, next, well now, I mean I'm New York,
Speaker 1: next everything New York. But NIXT something even though sometimes
Speaker 1: it's hard to be a knicker vodka hard sometimes oh
Speaker 1: saw here the NIXT fan. But I did big up
Speaker 1: to my man. But hey, I'll tell you one thing.
Speaker 1: We got one of the best merchandise in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah I should don't drop Okay, the box or video
Speaker 1: music box, video music box, hand down a shot out
Speaker 1: we got We got a big because the box was
Speaker 1: more like commercial. It's like kind of if you made
Speaker 1: it to the box, you kind of made it kind
Speaker 1: of because people were they were buying the slots in
Speaker 1: the box. You called it, Ralph, you had to I
Speaker 1: remember that time to like if you wasn't dope, he
Speaker 1: wasn't getting played. Now they're gonna play your ship because
Speaker 1: you might slipping onto the table. Biggie up, bigger, Mr
Speaker 1: Man right there, take a shot for you. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say you like this, I'll pick both of them.
Speaker 1: I picked both of them. Wanted you to pick both
Speaker 1: of them because both of them, you know, but we
Speaker 1: need but but I love No. Yeah, we're coming back
Speaker 1: because you got you gotta drive a big Yeah. I
Speaker 1: got tattooed big. That's one of my favorite rappers. Man. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get through a quick time and slim. Let's
Speaker 1: come back to big. Remember that, and then we go
Speaker 1: Scarface or ice Cube mm hmm. Both of them was instrumental.
Speaker 1: Damn it. Good ship myself. You can't pay for you can't.
Speaker 1: That's hard. That's my ma wanna cleansing myself right now.
Speaker 1: By the way, you got the ultimate lantine on bracelet
Speaker 1: right there. Every everybody uncle got that same bracelet, and
Speaker 1: every Spanish family they got that same bracelet. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that's that's that's an ultimate real Latino ship. Okay,
Speaker 1: what did I say? All right, boom white man, Right,
Speaker 1: I gotta take this first, right now, you gotta take it.
Speaker 1: This is extra round of song. No, this is last
Speaker 1: call for rel Kanye. I agree, premar just Blaze dreama
Speaker 1: podcast or radio podcast. Just keep coming up the late
Speaker 1: this no more Jay Z who nahs on jay Z. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this right, I'm gonna say I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say no, No, I'm gonna say this. It's yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna do that anyway. But I'm saying this how I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it is both of them at different times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds like yeah, because I'm listening to a certain
Speaker 1: vibe like nas Nas educates me like he makes me smart,
Speaker 1: like he makes me look for books. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know what that is, but
Speaker 1: that's sound fly. I need to do some history. J
Speaker 1: just wakes me feel like, you know, I can take
Speaker 1: over the industry. Okay, all right, this is clearly the
Speaker 1: Dominican and public in Colombia because boltang, it's a wool
Speaker 1: tang inside answer. Fourth disciple or true master m hmm,
Speaker 1: fourth disciple true Damn, that's crazy. I gotta see both
Speaker 1: of them. We came to play, baby the game. We
Speaker 1: came to please. I'm taking the babies. I don't give
Speaker 1: you gotta finish, gonna finish it, man, let's take to
Speaker 1: come on. Damn, I'm gonna stick. I'm not gonna how
Speaker 1: you get loose. No, I'm not gonna let my PEPs
Speaker 1: because he already get a peep. I'm gonna stick with it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with it. Okay, con Tho, No, I
Speaker 1: got it wrong. I'll tell you one thing. You ask
Speaker 1: some questions that I wasn't expecting. This whole little game
Speaker 1: that's this is fly Yeah yeah, come on bro, come
Speaker 1: on bro, we we were here with you, baby. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is one I don't know where you're gonna go with.
Speaker 1: And I'm very curious. Red Man or a Zy Damn bro,
Speaker 1: it's like easy, that was real, I don't know, or
Speaker 1: Minister Society. You gotta remember you from. So I made
Speaker 1: the Jews. I mean I like mentes, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that wasn't really my culture. It was
Speaker 1: more of an educational thing for me, But for Jews.
Speaker 1: I felt like when I went to Bow Dagger and
Speaker 1: he pop Poppy, I felt like that could have been me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm into that. Just make some monch with you to that,
Speaker 1: all right? Jersey Drive or Who's the Man? Jersey's Drive? Definitely,
Speaker 1: it wasn't who was the man? Wasn't that wasn't that like,
Speaker 1: wasn't Lover and Doctor wasn't it cops or something? They
Speaker 1: were like cool cops though they was trying to make cops.
Speaker 1: I mean it was funny. It was funny, all right, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, this I really need to notice one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is my Colombian and I don't know why I
Speaker 1: got Colombians Dominicans making this list. This is they can
Speaker 1: be born at any time. They can be born at
Speaker 1: any time any time they No, no, I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I said that. I said Dominican and Columbia is making
Speaker 1: the quick time of slab. They could be born at
Speaker 1: any point. A pay them off. I really need an
Speaker 1: honist answer because we come from the truth school, but
Speaker 1: we liked it. One of them. We both come on
Speaker 1: and be hammer over their lives. Yeah, hammer first handed,
Speaker 1: ain't here humble for bumy ham hu Hamdle was first
Speaker 1: and hammers and people that he's everybody with him. I
Speaker 1: ain't doing it with other nig Yeah, definitely, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna find I did it before you. You ain't never
Speaker 1: do it. Do it. Everybody did it. Can't touch all
Speaker 1: that you did that still do it? Let me right
Speaker 1: Hammer from Oatland too. Yeah, when I heard it matter
Speaker 1: if she searched. We need to get we need. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. Really be not conscious of everything that goes
Speaker 1: on here, but not really Okay. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty
Speaker 1: or respect mm hmm. Definitely respect because with respect you're
Speaker 1: getting loyalty Now it don't now it matters why they
Speaker 1: respect you, and it's a different thing. How will you respected?
Speaker 1: But loyalty I think changes with conditions, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Respect will always be somebody earning your respect.
Speaker 1: You can't really funk that up unless you do some disrespect.
Speaker 1: So I go with respect, Okay, like I go over
Speaker 1: fair too. I go for fear over love. I don't
Speaker 1: fear you go for fear over love, yea rather somebody? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because people you love, like you ever noticed, like your
Speaker 1: family right there, are steal from you because you love them.
Speaker 1: But you won't try that ship with somebody that don't
Speaker 1: love them. So don't use the love card on me.
Speaker 1: People more than love. I know, I don't fear anybody.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that if somebody fears me rather
Speaker 1: than love me, you cross somebody you love before you
Speaker 1: cross somebody you fear. No hear you. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: the person that fears you is unpredictable because they're scared.
Speaker 1: Both are unpredictable. Yeah, respect, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I've had the most people who did the hurt fool
Speaker 1: shipped to me was people I loved and loved me.
Speaker 1: Did you hear the baby just said? Baby said, you
Speaker 1: gotta watch envy when you watch hate, because envyous here yea,
Speaker 1: and hate what you meant? All that ship man that
Speaker 1: fear hey then away from here and maybe trying to
Speaker 1: get deep man, come on, got that ship. Let me
Speaker 1: take my shot. That guy we're taking He was like,
Speaker 1: you want to just take it? And giggles little get
Speaker 1: drunk so in too deep and you did original deep
Speaker 1: and too deep. What is this story they're telling you
Speaker 1: this story about? Because from Marvi's this story is actually
Speaker 1: about Queen's dudes who went out of time. That's why
Speaker 1: they kept using the god And that was like yeah,
Speaker 1: But then they said it was about some people in
Speaker 1: Ohio with Cincinnati and things like that. I don't know
Speaker 1: because I really wasn't you know at that time, I
Speaker 1: ain't here what it was about. It was like, what's
Speaker 1: these lines and the checks there? All right, let's go.
Speaker 1: But it was a fun set man, it was a
Speaker 1: fun set um. It was it was big because it
Speaker 1: was three people from our neighborhood. Actually, in that same movie,
Speaker 1: you had me Hassan who played we Bay. You had
Speaker 1: Candle Grills he was also he was all from the
Speaker 1: same neighborhood. So it was a big thing to have
Speaker 1: three of us from the same neighborhood in one movie,
Speaker 1: alongside L. L. Coo J and Omar Epps and Sticky
Speaker 1: Fingers Into being the trail is rapping with L. L.
Speaker 1: Sticky and Omar Epps because Olmar is nice too, and
Speaker 1: we was this is that's just times you can't people
Speaker 1: can't pay for that. So what was you mad when
Speaker 1: Cary said it was in too Deep like mccarth, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I said, what the hell is just talking about?
Speaker 1: That's not the movie. He wasn't even That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: But then I was saying, well, maybe he's in too
Speaker 1: deep in something else than I don't know, but I
Speaker 1: know it wasn't the movie. What he was in too
Speaker 1: d I don't know, wasn't the movie. I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's what Kanye said that sober into. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to give him an out bro, I mean what
Speaker 1: we don't know what he was meaning? Into deep? He
Speaker 1: could have been into deep, too deep. You can't know
Speaker 1: what Just be clear. We all wrapped. Come on, come
Speaker 1: on we rappers and DJ's here when you say I'm
Speaker 1: in too deep like my co fife, he might have
Speaker 1: met something else though he like he said he might have.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the movie because you know that we can
Speaker 1: scratch the movie out because what was he? What was
Speaker 1: he deep? Unless he thought he wasn't unless he thought
Speaker 1: but mcaf but he thought, yeah, yeah, so that's why
Speaker 1: he used that's that's the happen to be that right ship? Right? No,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It might could be because
Speaker 1: if you don't know somebody else, somebody don't know I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a writer or whoever it is,
Speaker 1: but whoever, if don't you know that line and you
Speaker 1: saw the movie, you didn't wait the movie, you didn't
Speaker 1: if you don has heard about it, wrote that line,
Speaker 1: you didn't want the movie. Yeah, he could have googled
Speaker 1: that because I ain't gonna When I heard, I was like, indeed,
Speaker 1: and I said it too, and I was like, who
Speaker 1: was he? Even? Or it might have been a spin.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's just that creative said, oh, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: mcco fight for fuck him up to make him say,
Speaker 1: you say, wait a minute, he's not mccow fighter. Maybe
Speaker 1: he said, oh my drink chats. We'll talk about this
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. Shot. He tried to clean it up.
Speaker 1: He tried to clean it up. In the soundtrack for
Speaker 1: that movie. I was in the soundtrack with with the
Speaker 1: Locks with the Nuts Locks. You gotta come on, let's
Speaker 1: take some more. Mom wanna the juel you I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I think he speaks. He speak a whole bunch of English.
Speaker 1: I said, June, when you get did just speak smash?
Speaker 1: He said, Nori speaks you guys, what are you trying
Speaker 1: to because he got freckles man, dispect that's got to
Speaker 1: discuss respectful. That's guys like him. Those are the brothers.
Speaker 1: You might be fucking family. You never know. So I look, shot,
Speaker 1: we've been through it all. What is the one thing
Speaker 1: that you regret in this in this life or what
Speaker 1: was the one thing you finished wish you finished either
Speaker 1: or you could um the one thing that I really
Speaker 1: wish I could have changed. Is that I wish I
Speaker 1: would have grew up in time to like get my
Speaker 1: mom the hell she needs, and I could have saved
Speaker 1: my mom's life. But I didn't know to just take
Speaker 1: a move away. I was just that just that I
Speaker 1: make sure I should have just forced in the woods
Speaker 1: and the force to get better. Like I was just
Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, she's gonna do it anyway, so the
Speaker 1: moms will stay home. That's why I never left, because
Speaker 1: I always feed like, damn I moved. We never left,
Speaker 1: you start, because I felt like if I took my mom,
Speaker 1: Let's say I moved to Queens, right, and I'm living
Speaker 1: out there now my mom's has an addiction, so now
Speaker 1: she's running around Queens, and now it becomes the talk
Speaker 1: Queens that my mother's like that at least at home.
Speaker 1: Heybody knew that ship before I was, even it's not
Speaker 1: a big deal. So I stayed where I was comfortable
Speaker 1: at for all those reasons. But that's the same thing
Speaker 1: that kept her and myself in that pit. So I
Speaker 1: was like, if I could change anything, I wish I
Speaker 1: was a little more mature in my decision making and
Speaker 1: my thinking because I would have just removed myself from
Speaker 1: the environment. See all along, I'm staying in the rat race.
Speaker 1: I'm get involved in this stupid shot and binging and
Speaker 1: shooting all this dumb ship when all I had to
Speaker 1: do the simple thing to do is you know what
Speaker 1: I'm just But you were a kid man, You were
Speaker 1: a kid, and you know what I'm saying, and came
Speaker 1: into the industry young. So it kind of stunts your broke.
Speaker 1: But but but it was the best thing that happened
Speaker 1: to me. I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't trade it
Speaker 1: because I know so much. It was pain that came
Speaker 1: with it, but the things that I learned from this priceless.
Speaker 1: All Right, you gonna do another shot with you getting
Speaker 1: We're finishing this. Mama wanna bottle, and I'm finishing face
Speaker 1: because you know what shop You don't know if you
Speaker 1: know our show is about giving flowers. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: twelve gold ones. Yeah you know what this might be?
Speaker 1: You know you heard it and this might be it. No,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an n f T. We're gonna do sing.
Speaker 1: You can create that f T for yourself. We're gonna
Speaker 1: make n f T those too, well, can y'all sign
Speaker 1: it for me. It's already sign with the drink champs
Speaker 1: were short chasing you at all. You're one of them.
Speaker 1: We just started this, so you're I think he's you're
Speaker 1: the fourth person. Yea for the coach. That's that's a coach.
Speaker 1: That's for the coach. That's for So again, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you to your face, man um, how
Speaker 1: much we appreciate your contribution to hip hop. That's what
Speaker 1: our show was about. Our show was about giving even
Speaker 1: flowers while they're alive. We could have interviewed anybody, but
Speaker 1: we want to interview all legends. We want to end
Speaker 1: a few people who have been seasoned like us that's
Speaker 1: been around. And when I did speak to you and
Speaker 1: I said, shot, my only problem is you're hitting me
Speaker 1: now that you thought that I said something wrong, But
Speaker 1: I said, I did three hundred shows when I said
Speaker 1: something beautiful about you, and you hit me and you
Speaker 1: school me real quickly said, but I was in jail.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I've never seen this ship first. I
Speaker 1: just telling me, like, go on online, it's on the
Speaker 1: end of that us. So what I'm trying to tell
Speaker 1: you is that's what our show was about. Our show
Speaker 1: was has been, it will continue, and we'll always be
Speaker 1: about picking up our legends. There's plenty of radio stations
Speaker 1: that people can go to when they got something going
Speaker 1: over it, but we want to interview the people that's
Speaker 1: put in that work that got them ten years in
Speaker 1: four than ten years in. And I'm tired of people
Speaker 1: saying that washed up or they're over the hill. That's
Speaker 1: no fucking word like that in any other genre and
Speaker 1: any other music. So that's the reason why we started
Speaker 1: drink Chat. It was because we want to give people
Speaker 1: their belts back, you know how like Rick Flair run
Speaker 1: his belt then you know, Rick Flair might that belt
Speaker 1: is yours forever. Yeah, that's peace, that's peace. Um yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. G I appreciate it, but um yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know, and that's the same way I felt.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, if you go back, it
Speaker 1: was funny too, right, just the way the world works.
Speaker 1: They was just asking me, what's what's like? What was
Speaker 1: on your top? I'm like the war report and didn't
Speaker 1: not as soon as this ship came out of my mother.
Speaker 1: But it's the truth. I can't like, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean under no, under no circumstances would what y'all
Speaker 1: did for my life. See it's a difference because I
Speaker 1: grew up in the era. But to be a kid
Speaker 1: a fan, See I was a kid a fan too
Speaker 1: at the same time being in this ship office in Champagne.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I just need to get you
Speaker 1: funked up alone. He's speaking. No, he's Spanish, he said
Speaker 1: nothing yet you guys like aisha local. No, no Spanish.
Speaker 1: We got to get what are you talking about? Want
Speaker 1: let's do it, June, you're working with you. I'm good
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, ship, y'all don't know what just happened
Speaker 1: my mind just my computer just cool. Yeah, man, No,
Speaker 1: but it's it's peace. Man. I'm glad. We're glad we
Speaker 1: could we could see here as as grown ups and
Speaker 1: and and work through something, because that's a lot of
Speaker 1: the problems with people today. They don't just take the
Speaker 1: time to work it out and say, hey, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: just how this made me feel and just and and
Speaker 1: a lot of time it's like, yo, I didn't even
Speaker 1: make me to make you feel that way. And it's
Speaker 1: like okay, all right now speech and now we have
Speaker 1: an understanding. You know what I mean, but it can
Speaker 1: go another way too, that people don't take the time
Speaker 1: to do things the right way. And I commend y'all
Speaker 1: for doing things the right way and you know, correcting
Speaker 1: whatever mistake, whatever we want to call it, it's it's
Speaker 1: water under the bridge, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: that's why I thank y'all for getting on my podcast
Speaker 1: and just making it, making it smooth and making anything right.
Speaker 1: We fun before, We with you now, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: fuk with you after. And um, you know that's just
Speaker 1: what we are. Man. You know, come on, got that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like, it's one more this is it?
Speaker 1: Because he wants you to do. I gotta do because yeah,
Speaker 1: we got got the rugged, the rugged road to recovery.
Speaker 1: That let's talk Let's let's talk about the podcast. Yea,
Speaker 1: let's at the podgrass is you know, dedicating the memory
Speaker 1: of my mother, Um, and I just wanted to create
Speaker 1: a platform. Oh my mother's name, Marilyn Franklin. You know, um, okay,
Speaker 1: think you sir, just because most of the sounds people
Speaker 1: just don't have no way to go to talk to
Speaker 1: when they in those breaking moments, or they just want
Speaker 1: people to listen to them. So it's like, yo, you
Speaker 1: know what would be dope. We the community hip hop,
Speaker 1: We got a bunch of things where rappers come up.
Speaker 1: You even got gang boundings. But a part of our
Speaker 1: community is the people that struggle with drug addiction and
Speaker 1: and hustling drugs and things like that that made terrible mistakes.
Speaker 1: That's trying to correct their errors, a place for them
Speaker 1: to come get their strength and event as well as
Speaker 1: celebrities that's in the same thing, dealing with the same
Speaker 1: issues and just just a just a smooth spot just
Speaker 1: to have comversation, you know what I mean, And you
Speaker 1: take what you take from it, leaving what else back
Speaker 1: on the table, you know what I mean. You got
Speaker 1: audio distribution yet, Um, I just did it through on
Speaker 1: the line. Like me, I just turned to a vigorous
Speaker 1: Internet and just Google everything. So I did it through.
Speaker 1: Um one of those asks. Some Spotify the same way.
Speaker 1: You pretty much do it through. Course. Yeah, something's one
Speaker 1: of those, like you know, gets at that level right now.
Speaker 1: But you know I'm listening, bro, I'm here. I want
Speaker 1: to work movies, music, podcast whatever. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You back out here. I'm so I'm gonna use the
Speaker 1: bathroom now. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah, I'll say I'll say
Speaker 1: drinks is distribution for what it record? Just wait, wait, wait?
Speaker 1: Can the car be in my name? You listen, you
Speaker 1: already signed that. I go to the bathroom looking fifteen
Speaker 1: times the wood. You know what happen if you would
Speaker 1: have been on that bus coming down from Clinton and
Speaker 1: you're gonna go down your leg exactly? All right? So
Speaker 1: I just want to take a shot with you again.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, want to do something. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: double shot. Let's do something alright, alright, double shot? All right,
Speaker 1: So let me ask you, shot, what's what's your most
Speaker 1: favorite part of the game. Is it performing the record
Speaker 1: or making the record? Um? Oh yeah, well you can't
Speaker 1: perform the record until you mean right, So, I mean
Speaker 1: I love making it, but ain't nothing like that crowd man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just just like like, yeah, you feel me in
Speaker 1: that screen. Man, that's just like it's like dope, uh solo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So let me ask you now, we need the big
Speaker 1: ol stories. Okay, that's what I relaxed for a second.
Speaker 1: Coming at me like like I like it. I like it,
Speaker 1: like I would like so me me and big relationship.
Speaker 1: It started, um he was on Columbia and I was
Speaker 1: on Virsion and I used to go. When I was
Speaker 1: a kid, the thing that I used to do was
Speaker 1: go hang out a record labels and radio station. I'll
Speaker 1: just be the kids showing up and they'd be like,
Speaker 1: come sitt in my office, chill and my death shoining.
Speaker 1: Did what I wanted to do everywhere, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I used to go up to Columbia
Speaker 1: and the used to be a female my name of
Speaker 1: Taish Harris. You used to be there, so she used
Speaker 1: to let me come show the office and get on
Speaker 1: the computer and just learn and listen and watch and
Speaker 1: how how the businesses ran. And L used to go
Speaker 1: up there too, and so we man we got cool.
Speaker 1: And then throughout the years he was he was just like,
Speaker 1: see back then you could have me meet a rapper
Speaker 1: and he give you your number, and I actually keeping such.
Speaker 1: See now it was the thing of we got exchange
Speaker 1: number twenty times before we actually called each other. But
Speaker 1: back then it was like a B B B BO,
Speaker 1: what's up? And then call you back on the pay phone,
Speaker 1: what's up. And then when I started to go to
Speaker 1: Hall arm more because of my drugging drugging choice, I
Speaker 1: started to be up there, and then I started to
Speaker 1: hang around three nine Lenings. You know, all that around
Speaker 1: that was sparked parts of towns and that was I
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I don't know about now, but back
Speaker 1: then it was. Back then it was. And you know,
Speaker 1: I used to go up there and get my ship
Speaker 1: and it was there cam out of liquor store right
Speaker 1: there too at the time. So I used to hang
Speaker 1: out over there, and you know, and then when I
Speaker 1: got my third deal through a woot Sang Records, and
Speaker 1: I was doing a man Shout album, I had full
Speaker 1: control over the budget. So then I was like, I
Speaker 1: want to work with who I want to work with.
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I need you on this ship.
Speaker 1: I got the budget. Here's Bread produced because he was
Speaker 1: making Beach produced a joint and get on the joint.
Speaker 1: And we was actually recording. We had did Furious Anger,
Speaker 1: and we was recording the second record, and I was
Speaker 1: in Quash Studios. I'm there and I'm like, l he
Speaker 1: wasn't the type of person to bullshit you, so he
Speaker 1: told me a shot, I'm near eight o'clock. He might
Speaker 1: have been a thirty, but he wasn't showing up ten.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He kept his words. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here at eleven o'clock. It's late now, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact but so I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: where the fun is? So I'm calling around, calling around.
Speaker 1: And then I said, okay, let me call somebody from
Speaker 1: like like Lord Finesse in one of them. And then
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, yo, school, he just got shot.
Speaker 1: He's he's I'm like what, just shut it up? And
Speaker 1: and and and and I lost my friend that day,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so the day he
Speaker 1: got supposed to go to recording, yeah, he was working
Speaker 1: on music, and he was coming through the other song.
Speaker 1: And because but you have another I have a song
Speaker 1: with him, we could see what I would do was
Speaker 1: book the sessions out, so I knew I was working with.
Speaker 1: So we were booked a couple of days of the
Speaker 1: session to do the records. Withell, so we locked one
Speaker 1: in and we had the rest of the week to
Speaker 1: finish the other songs. So then the process of finishing
Speaker 1: other songs, this tragedy just happened during that time, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So when it happened, it's just
Speaker 1: like that ship sucked me up and you're waiting on him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he knew something was wrong because you said because he
Speaker 1: was wrong late. I didn't know that happened, but I
Speaker 1: just knew like something because he wouldn't play me like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He wasn't one of them
Speaker 1: dudes to play me out like that's like to play me,
Speaker 1: I'm coming and you don't come them call no show.
Speaker 1: It's like no, he wasn't like that, So that she
Speaker 1: was hurtful, and that's why I got the tattoo. I said, no,
Speaker 1: no matter where I make it at yea, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: why would you think that? I mean, it looked more
Speaker 1: like a C than a B. I mean, but but
Speaker 1: it's a it's a calligrapiel. Yeah. But when I was
Speaker 1: in prison it started things too because this is said
Speaker 1: that I didn't know eight one sick crips, So they
Speaker 1: think I'm walking around with an eight one six and
Speaker 1: the sea. I'm like, whoa, so I'm coming on the
Speaker 1: mess online. He said, you about that? Like about what
Speaker 1: he said to tax said, you like it, but like bigger,
Speaker 1: he like six creep I'm like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, and that's not it's bigger, Jesus. But
Speaker 1: I see how it looked though it couldn't look like
Speaker 1: that condor look at yeah, it doesn't look a little bit.
Speaker 1: I did not think it us a seat. So it's
Speaker 1: not as you just said that Jesus, we focused on.
Speaker 1: That's why I got it, because I just said, you
Speaker 1: know what I want. I think it's one of the
Speaker 1: best ms ever, man, and there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: people that say they have a bigger health feature. And
Speaker 1: that ran with Tupac and big. I think that's the
Speaker 1: reason why some chimes your door gets shut? What door shut?
Speaker 1: I think the door this industry. You know, you noticed
Speaker 1: inus she pick who they want, pick who they can control,
Speaker 1: or or like, Okay, we can get away with it
Speaker 1: with this guy. This guy is a little bit now,
Speaker 1: we don't want to keep keep him over there, don't
Speaker 1: invite him to this, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: you stand on principles and morals, so it's like you
Speaker 1: have to give up all that to be that, and
Speaker 1: for me, it's just not worth it for me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'd rather stand short and they
Speaker 1: remember me for how it was than for me to
Speaker 1: be a sellout for a bag or or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Give this nigga, bis he's a part of the table. Man,
Speaker 1: he's really really sick taking the shot. No more shots,
Speaker 1: no more shots. It's done, it's done, it's done. You
Speaker 1: wanted to let shot? No, there's no more, Juanna, we're
Speaker 1: not mixing. Shut we got we got, we got something.
Speaker 1: Get up something brown because we don't need drinking that.
Speaker 1: We got game thrown up to now SA right you
Speaker 1: want to do, say yeah, do say but dj come on,
Speaker 1: let's get them drunk. We want them on the table.
Speaker 1: Come on, Joe, get some do put them on the
Speaker 1: table between boys. This is what I would do to them.
Speaker 1: But you know, don't let you go down by yourself.
Speaker 1: You go, mr Mr Lea, you please wrap it up.
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah we know that, Joe. Then how folks
Speaker 1: with you? Joe? Yeah? And you got you play handball
Speaker 1: for real? Just keep it. No, you gotta go off,
Speaker 1: you gotta have ye. But you gotta glove. I don't
Speaker 1: like the way you trying to make that a joke.
Speaker 1: Now I'm saying you gotta go out play with the gloves.
Speaker 1: You don't need no clove hen I'll play none of
Speaker 1: that ship. Do I come outside of my gloves? Profession
Speaker 1: he's a professionals now, I mean, are you? Are you
Speaker 1: good to when you go to the floor and almost
Speaker 1: straight the deel with I got not only I oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you professional? I'm not right. You know, I got a
Speaker 1: couple of things in my hand. Start burning, yo, shot.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. We really appreciate you,
Speaker 1: not just and drink chance for the hip hop. Hold on, guys,
Speaker 1: hold on, guys. Let me just say I actually, when
Speaker 1: everything happened, I can't say I was disappointed. I guess
Speaker 1: just say I was like, damn, because for me and you,
Speaker 1: we've always been great. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I said, you've been the left frack before I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: that's what it was the same way with me. So
Speaker 1: I'm on the obviously side like your world. That's for yourself,
Speaker 1: but for future. Just you know, that's not what we're about.
Speaker 1: What we about is bigg en up our car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's big ship we were about. It's uplifting our culture.
Speaker 1: And whether you're gonna do a podcast, you're gonna open
Speaker 1: a fresh fried joint. I'm gonna stand behind it because
Speaker 1: you know why, that's what the funk we do over
Speaker 1: here and drink jams. We're here to support, helping hand
Speaker 1: to our legends space and I'm always stand for that space.
Speaker 1: So I want you to know that. And I forgave
Speaker 1: everybody who made the blogs and whatever. It's only one
Speaker 1: thing I don't forget. It was a comedian thing. He's funny,
Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get it's funny though,
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean he did. He did, So
Speaker 1: I'm coming back to comedian Yo yo, comedian girl. He's
Speaker 1: coming for yo yo yo. Here coming for you, big
Speaker 1: looking man now. But not for nothing, No, honestly, man.
Speaker 1: I mean during the time, I ain't gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: had a fucking ball, had all because it was like
Speaker 1: it was a learning experience, right, So the whole thing
Speaker 1: where it was the light because the young boys. You
Speaker 1: gotta blame them, right because when they say, oh, g
Speaker 1: you gotta troll, I'm like, what's trolling? So they say
Speaker 1: you could take this and do this, and so I
Speaker 1: could do that, right. You were supposed to. You were
Speaker 1: supposed to, But it wasn't personal. I was. I was
Speaker 1: just I felt like I had to defend. I had
Speaker 1: to defend, right, because all right, since we're here right here,
Speaker 1: when when the statements was said or whatever, right, and
Speaker 1: it was said to groups, it was said to groups
Speaker 1: along with my name, but the difference between me and
Speaker 1: the other groups that was said, I'm by myself. So
Speaker 1: it put that name and that that that that that
Speaker 1: that world flunky and non existent with my face. And
Speaker 1: not only that, my daughters in college. This is number one, Bro,
Speaker 1: my kids gotta live with that ship. Oh that's your dad,
Speaker 1: that little you know what I'm saying. So I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I die before I do that ship. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That That's what I was defending. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it wasn't the first time that
Speaker 1: someone said that. Um, when the clan was making a storm,
Speaker 1: there was groups that they didn't want. There, there was
Speaker 1: they didn't really want killer the other groups that was
Speaker 1: not you know, that was part of the Aphilias whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call us. They didn't want us. They
Speaker 1: just wanted to clan. And rightfully so, because it's your show,
Speaker 1: I don't hear a funk. You can't have whoever you want,
Speaker 1: but judge my music, judged my career, and I got
Speaker 1: nothing to say. You could say it's the whack of ship.
Speaker 1: You could say I'm terrible on screen. Hey do what
Speaker 1: you do, but a character flaw that is not me.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't allow that. And when I walked
Speaker 1: the prison yard, dudes that got natural life took a
Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes for me pay me back on time,
Speaker 1: not because they were scared of me, but as a
Speaker 1: respect of how I carried myself. So that's what I
Speaker 1: was defending. And that's why I was so adamant and
Speaker 1: so and so disappointed. Not angry because I'm going to
Speaker 1: the penitentiary. I wasn't going to consentually, that was out
Speaker 1: of it because I know, but there was a time
Speaker 1: in my life where the result would have been the
Speaker 1: grave order penitentiary because I would have been smoking that
Speaker 1: dust and I would have been thinking, these days, a
Speaker 1: bigger plot. They're trying to kill me there, Loman. I
Speaker 1: would have been bugging the funk out and then cool.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wish, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But that's what that was my mentality. What I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that everything worked out the way it
Speaker 1: worked out, because it definitely was a blessing. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not gonna be an idiot like
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, y'all ain't fucking so we brow
Speaker 1: the motherfucking dirt off the back of this shining I am.
Speaker 1: I did that before this. I'm gonna tell you some shing. No,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying some ship. And that's why
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is this? Because I
Speaker 1: remember it was not too long ago. Right after I
Speaker 1: did Glad, I got a message from one of the
Speaker 1: pages like yo, pull up and I said, word, here's
Speaker 1: my math. And then it was months I didn't hear nothing.
Speaker 1: And then let no, I didn't. I didn't know why.
Speaker 1: I know, actually I thought you were saying on Joe buttons. OK,
Speaker 1: let's get to that with what I was when I
Speaker 1: was as well, yeah, you know what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: it come on, because but this is what I thought.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what. It wasn't facts, nothing was facts.
Speaker 1: It was just what I thought, right, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: damn it reached out and said come on the show.
Speaker 1: Then I don't hear nothing. After I give my number.
Speaker 1: Then months later it's like, I'm a flunking what the
Speaker 1: full ship? By the way, let's just be clear with you.
Speaker 1: You know, I know what happened. You said what you said,
Speaker 1: and you said what you said about sons of men.
Speaker 1: That's fine, but my whole life calling myself a retard,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but it's the problem you call another
Speaker 1: person problem. Even if both of y'all were toughting on
Speaker 1: the bus and you called me, how are you gonna
Speaker 1: call me? What the moment you call me? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's what
Speaker 1: I do. I deal with empathy. That's my main thing.
Speaker 1: I try to see things from not only my point
Speaker 1: of view, from other people's point in view, and I
Speaker 1: try to figure it out. And I figured out was Finn,
Speaker 1: don't listen to you, because it clearly heard you say resistance.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have said. But if Finn was also on
Speaker 1: the back end story, he came in saying, killer army,
Speaker 1: We're gonna kill the bees. So he was just rambling
Speaker 1: that he killer be He thought he knew, but he
Speaker 1: didn't hear the words you said prior, and that was
Speaker 1: understanding understand how it happy. It happens all the time,
Speaker 1: but it happened. My thing was like the patsy, who's
Speaker 1: responsible for letting this ship get released? Right there? Because
Speaker 1: I normally had to watch this ship And somebody said,
Speaker 1: who I wrote yourself that is washing draws with cor
Speaker 1: Craft right now to take him another tendant. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you I'm sorry because we
Speaker 1: were together and we did have a meet and this
Speaker 1: saying that should have never because it wasn't intense? Is
Speaker 1: that the way what we was trying to say was,
Speaker 1: and if you really look at the whole for this,
Speaker 1: there's no one could be bad. As we said, we
Speaker 1: have this this dude random rand up one of the
Speaker 1: apologize to the whole such a sense, That's what we
Speaker 1: was trying to say. Okay, right, so at that point everybody,
Speaker 1: and then where did it become? So we're separating Flunky
Speaker 1: and a non existence? Right? And that's fine. You can
Speaker 1: feel how you want to feel about about the Sons
Speaker 1: of Man when you mentioned them, right, because I can't
Speaker 1: defend no, I didn't mean that though. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, let me just tell you this. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still don't. Actually I think flunky
Speaker 1: is a bad word. That's me. Yeah, but it's a
Speaker 1: bad word. You know why I killed me? Or when
Speaker 1: I was a little boy, this bad When I was
Speaker 1: a little kid, right, my grandmother used to tell me
Speaker 1: in this world stories, I don't want you to be.
Speaker 1: You don't be nobody's fucking flunky. You don't be a thief,
Speaker 1: and you don't be a fucking liar. And also you
Speaker 1: don't have not nobody a place to stay or something
Speaker 1: to eat. So those are the things that I look
Speaker 1: So when that was me, I'm like my grandmothers and
Speaker 1: her grave, Boy, you better go in the projects and
Speaker 1: fight and come back with a bus, grandma. My grandma
Speaker 1: did not say, do not be a retard? What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I was in the Big Lift, the
Speaker 1: ball Chass, Little Everlasting Sheldon, and we all called ourselves
Speaker 1: the retards, and you know what ship was hanging out
Speaker 1: the junction boulevard and we all fought for the worm
Speaker 1: in the tekiller. Okay, okay, okay, So now so now
Speaker 1: now I know what I'm dealing with. You, I vent
Speaker 1: so words is semantic to me, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't digg into words. Now. It was five or
Speaker 1: sent words now identified with that. If I identified calling you,
Speaker 1: you're cool now I know I'm yeah. Um. If I'm
Speaker 1: calling you, it's like one of the words that we
Speaker 1: Sometimes we take words and we give it our own
Speaker 1: meaning to it, and sometimes it means something different than
Speaker 1: it could be construed. It happens, brother, it happens. You
Speaker 1: can say the whole hearted. When we had when we
Speaker 1: spoke immediately when everything started transpiring, he told me, He's like,
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything back. I didn't know. He didn't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, bro, that's that's He's like. He was
Speaker 1: saying that too, because I learned something. You know what
Speaker 1: it is. I'm gonna tell you what it is. You
Speaker 1: can't wait there for one. Let me just give this
Speaker 1: brother one. It was called Mega called me call Omega
Speaker 1: said we know you love him? Omega bro that I said,
Speaker 1: Omega what? Because I didn't I didn't know what he
Speaker 1: was talking about. That's the way I said that. He
Speaker 1: and he said the names. Let's say I just say
Speaker 1: that ship what he told them. It's the first time
Speaker 1: me and Comega raised our voice to each other he
Speaker 1: said something I like, I like what the mega said, Chill,
Speaker 1: I'm a senior to Clip and I didn't even know
Speaker 1: good team which brother said, Ship, Damn, you're good at
Speaker 1: what you do, right, Um. But uh we were talking
Speaker 1: yeah because oh because he with the words right, because
Speaker 1: I spent I spent a good decent time with June
Speaker 1: and he has that same problem. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what about But I didn't realize said
Speaker 1: after me and you spoke that time for the first time, right,
Speaker 1: and we was doing and I was explaining to you
Speaker 1: where I seen, what where the force was or whatever,
Speaker 1: and you was like, oh, Ship, I didn't see it
Speaker 1: that way. And then it was like okay. Then I
Speaker 1: wholehearted me like I told you once we had understanding
Speaker 1: and you've seen where I came from. That's all I needed,
Speaker 1: even like I told you for when we spoke off camera,
Speaker 1: I said, we don't even got to visit this ship
Speaker 1: on here because all I wanted as men to know
Speaker 1: where I stand as a man, and looking at your
Speaker 1: eyes of how I felt, that don't change how I
Speaker 1: felt and how we can move forward, don't change because
Speaker 1: now like I know y'all more now because we went
Speaker 1: through something you got earlier. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: this is your this is this is your platform. Just
Speaker 1: in case you don't know it, let me say it again.
Speaker 1: Reiterated face the basement. You can promote and you got
Speaker 1: pink toneenails tomorrow, I got the Rugger Road to Recovery
Speaker 1: Concepts dot com. You can stream. You can stream my
Speaker 1: music because now they said Jack Villers said that, y'all.
Speaker 1: So that's the podcasts tell us, tell us about the
Speaker 1: bast Oh. The podcast is about about recovery, all types
Speaker 1: of recovery, substance abuse, recovery, career, because we are on
Speaker 1: the we're all just all all types of mental health recovery.
Speaker 1: Just just if you broke your leg and they're putting
Speaker 1: you on pills, and that's what happens. They take away
Speaker 1: the pills the next thing you know, you're looking for
Speaker 1: the fix and now your stone code dope head, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just about just getting
Speaker 1: a community to share information and say hold on, you
Speaker 1: don't just what you can get a little help and
Speaker 1: maybe if you are going you you you at the
Speaker 1: point in overturn let's slow it down a little, one
Speaker 1: step at a time, just to a smooth level. And
Speaker 1: that's it. And as long as I do that, I
Speaker 1: feel like my job is done on that. As far
Speaker 1: as the music, UM, I got iso Mestrical Concepts where
Speaker 1: I streamed my music. UM yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I heard. You have to do, create your
Speaker 1: own website and tell me to come here and um
Speaker 1: stream your own music. So that's what I do, mestric Concepts,
Speaker 1: and um, I have a joint. I actually have a
Speaker 1: record out right now called Mercy Made Me. It's Rockness
Speaker 1: is on the hook and um I got about it
Speaker 1: all j Pain on it and I guess Mickey Facts
Speaker 1: is on it. Oh yeah, with Petty Cracking and Cracking Dutch.
Speaker 1: I got a drink with him, shout out to me
Speaker 1: and goals got a record coming out to yo. What's up?
Speaker 1: I would love for you to get on a joint cam.
Speaker 1: Can we get the Come on man, I'm saying we
Speaker 1: can call it just like a song. We're gonna make it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna let's check it out with the shows. Funky
Speaker 1: the song shot him and Norviega Flunky Color, the Funky
Speaker 1: that's do what's ye takes us send me some ship.
Speaker 1: Yesterday I was so mad because I was like, Damn,
Speaker 1: I don't want to write like I just gotta walk. No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write you could I get my ship back? Shot?
Speaker 1: You shut up? He was always take a shot with us. Alight, cool,
Speaker 1: chee the weeze, Papa Cheese. Who's going down? But it's mad.
Speaker 1: It's good, but it's steaks. So I don't want you
Speaker 1: don't want to smoke with nobody on versus let's keep
Speaker 1: it real versus. The only person I could do a
Speaker 1: versus with his myself A k to rougets show Lord's
Speaker 1: Generation versus man show and h he's regga this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know what I meant, he would come out.
Speaker 1: He would together though. Yeah, that's that's local vicious, but
Speaker 1: that's not the same thing that's not here. I would,
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the only lot a really really I
Speaker 1: think would it be fun? Probably because he's probably been around.
Speaker 1: It has to be somebody have an extensive an extensive record,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I have albums I have featured,
Speaker 1: So it has to be somebody that has that type
Speaker 1: of body of work. Um, maybe somebody like Bleak. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could see that. I'm not calling out anybody I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you say, you know, because that would be that would
Speaker 1: be saying our old records. If I was calling him out,
Speaker 1: I'd say, spits some new ship and we go right down.
Speaker 1: So that's something different going right now. But anybody in
Speaker 1: my category, I ain't jumping out the window. I ain't
Speaker 1: saying I want to go out. You came, I said
Speaker 1: his name, I said, I feel like he's the only
Speaker 1: one that could probably get in the ring with me.
Speaker 1: You gotta think a k the rugged shall On and
Speaker 1: On ship is real Man shall Furious Single co Defendants,
Speaker 1: Uh Show, Improved jay Z, Big Daddy came, Little Vicious
Speaker 1: if you want to party, and sure, it's a lot
Speaker 1: of records I've done seven oh two that got forgotten about. Maybe,
Speaker 1: but when you hear him motherfucker's it's like it's and
Speaker 1: and and and and I don't think that anybody besides myself.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say he wanted to nine,
Speaker 1: I think he's I didn't. I didn't was that I
Speaker 1: was now you your manager right now? You know? But honestly,
Speaker 1: right other than him. Let's let's let's break it down right.
Speaker 1: If you go with Criss Cross, absolutely not. Are you
Speaker 1: going with actually Chris Cross the only thing? It's only one?
Speaker 1: How you're going too fast? He already, soldier boy, alright
Speaker 1: he did. Alright, hip hop hip hop will be talking
Speaker 1: say me against the hip hop er. Don't put me
Speaker 1: say Chris Cross because one thing Cris Cross one passed away.
Speaker 1: We can't. Yeah, you can't do it. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: I mean as the what you got, I went too
Speaker 1: far after that is what you're gonna do. Let's think
Speaker 1: about this. Can a little bit that's called sound class
Speaker 1: sound okay, so a sound class not a versus the
Speaker 1: other the other artists that could possibly I'm thinking from
Speaker 1: that time that that would have that a much that
Speaker 1: much credits do they need, you know? I mean, don't
Speaker 1: count the songs that if we wrote for people that
Speaker 1: if you can do those suits because you know my
Speaker 1: ghostwriting says, we didn't even talk about that, but you
Speaker 1: are ghostwriting stories and you ain't telling us I wrote
Speaker 1: Raven simone album. Come on man, we're going wrong here right?
Speaker 1: What read the credit? Ell Yeah, Mr Elliott and me
Speaker 1: was the writers for Raven Simone from the Cosby Show.
Speaker 1: We're about and you're not gonna talk about this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is what it is, the first day of school,
Speaker 1: ravens the frame and check the credit. It would have
Speaker 1: to be somebody that's been around for a while, that
Speaker 1: has several albums. And the only reason I say somebody
Speaker 1: like to the caliber of Bleek is because he has
Speaker 1: big records with jay Z. But if he takes them
Speaker 1: records away and it's just me and his records, I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody could I like it. I mean, and
Speaker 1: it's not a shot because this is stuff that's done already,
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying if a DJ could do that
Speaker 1: and put them together and play it out. But it's
Speaker 1: also the type of m C. I'm a different type
Speaker 1: of MC than a lot of these dudes. They don't
Speaker 1: share the pain I share. They can't relate to what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like they don't know, like they got
Speaker 1: to liver my balls and scraped my driding cough, Like
Speaker 1: you don't know what it's like to take a fucking
Speaker 1: piece of meat and bread and wrapping and plastic and
Speaker 1: put it on the stock and tied to the fucking
Speaker 1: heat of the eat. You can't funk with me. You're
Speaker 1: Nigga's living in fake land, not him particularly, but that's
Speaker 1: just how I failed as an artist, as an MC.
Speaker 1: But that's the old catalog versus Then you got this
Speaker 1: new world ball ship that Nigga just got smoked overnight.
Speaker 1: And if Nigger want to talk about wrap for today,
Speaker 1: I'll smoke him there too. So I mean, I ain't
Speaker 1: turned down no college. If Nigga wants to smoke, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring it. But just know what you're getting into.
Speaker 1: I've been around a long time and I was learned.
Speaker 1: I learned from the best. I learned from the best.
Speaker 1: Brother was the whole clan getting jews from them? Well,
Speaker 1: it was getting jews from Kane Well, it was getting
Speaker 1: jews from Fred Williamson's. Well was l L. It's like
Speaker 1: my arsenal are the people that I talked to and
Speaker 1: that gave me the tools and know and think who
Speaker 1: I am and move hard more. It ain't nobody that
Speaker 1: has that. If they do, like, bring them out, but
Speaker 1: you don't want it with a little vicious all right,
Speaker 1: we at, But then we only got one song together.
Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, what about a little.
Speaker 1: Is this straight hip hop? Was just legend because I've
Speaker 1: never seen a reggae reggae I gotta get my But
Speaker 1: you mean on dream chance? Is this straight hip hop? Want?
Speaker 1: I want to he might be some different ship right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was sufficious. Here's my man. We talked about with
Speaker 1: Red Alert last week and we talked, Yeah, that's my boy.
Speaker 1: I'll get yeah, yeah, but I can't do it first.
Speaker 1: But even Visius, that's my boy. But you don't got
Speaker 1: enough albums with me. And that's reggae. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? I got a k to Rugged show Lost
Speaker 1: Generation Lowe. Look, come on, man, I'm not bro bro.
Speaker 1: I'm just come on nor me. That's like coloring book
Speaker 1: raps like you want me to battle niggers, that's like
Speaker 1: coloring like I wanna let me do somebody that's been busy,
Speaker 1: Like I've brat with Big El, I brat with Big
Speaker 1: Al in hell mons. None of them niggers could do that.
Speaker 1: That's real, none of them not. And I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing I don't want to do like I'm
Speaker 1: taking shot. But I'm just saying we go with facts.
Speaker 1: It's not personal. Mury Over here somewhere. It's not enough.
Speaker 1: He can't compete with my catalog. Come my category could
Speaker 1: do it. Keith Murray just had it with Fresgro. Absolutely
Speaker 1: not that albums, but let's go. I got five albums
Speaker 1: plus mix tapes and Fijians. I got five all charted
Speaker 1: except for my independent. When I started my independent albums,
Speaker 1: that was the greatest story never told. When I started
Speaker 1: my own independent label in two thousand and three, I
Speaker 1: started this path. So I've been trying to get my
Speaker 1: websites and stuff. Some suit out and three. I had
Speaker 1: bottom up the movement. I had songs like the Dust Jews.
Speaker 1: I had Bonn and Mama Killed the Man. So that's
Speaker 1: a whole underground. That's that's just something that not even touched.
Speaker 1: It's like if we do it that way, because there's
Speaker 1: certain ways you do it. They say you picked twenty songs,
Speaker 1: You go for twenty songs. I got forty songs that
Speaker 1: I comported, so I can go twice. That's why I
Speaker 1: said the only person I would do versus with is
Speaker 1: myself Rugged show versus man Chaw. But I ain't got
Speaker 1: those types with numbers, like, let's be for real. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for a business like them, they
Speaker 1: want so it's not about m C and it's about
Speaker 1: well it could be, it could be. It just has
Speaker 1: to be the right pair of Yeah. I mean because
Speaker 1: right now, look they got who Cane and Caress. That's amazing, amazing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm here. Yeah, let's wrap it up ready, Yoh,
Speaker 1: ain't your should before we go, We're gonna take another shop.
Speaker 1: Let's go dj June. You gotta take another shot, brother,
Speaker 1: because make man proud. Yeah, because he dj' red too.
Speaker 1: That's the Red Man was about flowers. You got gold
Speaker 1: fucking flowers. Oh this is so beautiful. Yeah, man, you please,
Speaker 1: it's like it's bad. I want to I ain't even
Speaker 1: giving it to nobody. It's not you know, you gott
Speaker 1: get it. We're just starting this. Yeah, but things like this,
Speaker 1: it's like the kids sticking up the top five of
Speaker 1: who we gave this fire real ship. I can't take
Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, yeah, it's dope. It's dope. That's big. Deservable,
Speaker 1: so matric this is very I so matting right there.
Speaker 1: The fucker that just said deservable, Yeah, I like that word.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. That word. You can make that with you, bro.
Speaker 1: That's a good never right now, first time drink Shamp's dictionary.
Speaker 1: You started for all the words you're making. We're all
Speaker 1: with all the with all these slangs and everything, and
Speaker 1: you give the meanings to the words. You guys mock
Speaker 1: up concept. Yeah, but see since this is a new
Speaker 1: minor day, uh music. But I gotta get some shoutouts
Speaker 1: first and foremost show follow me on Instagram shot underscore
Speaker 1: Rugged six. He got all, this is your platform, and
Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm gonna keep looking
Speaker 1: at me in your eyes. And no, it was accepted
Speaker 1: prior to the yeah, that's that's not what we're doing.
Speaker 1: It was actually bigger up. It was like, now, not
Speaker 1: get it from that point, but some signs when you
Speaker 1: see things and it could be in one world that
Speaker 1: everything else disappears. So now it makes sense when you
Speaker 1: watch it. She's oh he was saying that, yo, it
Speaker 1: was actually actually added to them, Like damn. He hadn't
Speaker 1: even apologize, said the fucking the air. I get it,
Speaker 1: but I was just like, like, I didn't get apologized to,
Speaker 1: So I said, I didn't even get apology for none
Speaker 1: of this ship, don't I ain't it. But but you
Speaker 1: always thinking and the reason for is because your legends.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is the platform is for legends.
Speaker 1: We are not for you know what I'm saying, God,
Speaker 1: the god bodies that come to most of them, Mecha
Speaker 1: number seven for the first two days we are like,
Speaker 1: that's the God too. Were for the people that's been
Speaker 1: here as cold ministers. That's what we're here for. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I never say I'm not
Speaker 1: God body, not once I elevated the same way everyone elevated.
Speaker 1: That's why my first question to you was big turn hood.
Speaker 1: Look and when they go up state they turned blood
Speaker 1: or Muslim. It's because my knowledge of self has stayed
Speaker 1: the same. That's peace, and I will never change it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry well right now because but no real talk shot.
Speaker 1: That's why I fell back. I stood back because I'm
Speaker 1: confident in who I am as a man like wise,
Speaker 1: and I want you to know that this is your platform.
Speaker 1: Any time you ever felt offended by this platform or
Speaker 1: whatever you call this platform, no no, no, we're here.
Speaker 1: Were you under the Muslim Master number seven right now? No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no Gods exactly right here and just for future reference,
Speaker 1: if you ever feel offended anything, I'm gonna call you. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you. It's different. It's different because we
Speaker 1: have an understanding now, so now if but we've been
Speaker 1: had an understanding because no, no, no, listen, God bless
Speaker 1: me for saying this. I could be mad. I could be.
Speaker 1: But you know me and you, we've been always this way.
Speaker 1: I've always seeing you when you said every time I'm
Speaker 1: seeing I was a part of that, seeing you and saying, yo,
Speaker 1: what's sick. Yeah, I wanted you to prosper. I wanted
Speaker 1: you and I would that would never change. So I
Speaker 1: just wanted you to know it. Accept that's real always,
Speaker 1: and that's how I stand. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We're not example, we moved to it. We gotta understand it.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful relationship. Now. Look, we're happen a there's
Speaker 1: some some couple of words that got took in the
Speaker 1: wrong way. Now we heah, we're doing like man and
Speaker 1: it's it's it's infinite opportunities for everybody right here. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm happy. Thank you hold off checking the picture, Let's go.
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