1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and it's drink That's motherfucking podcast. Mason, 3 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: he's a legendary queen's rapper. He's like it's your boy 4 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: in r He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d 5 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: j e f N. Together they drink it up with 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: And your number one sorts for drunk drink is New year' z. 8 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Just time for Drink Champs. Drink Up, Mother, would it 9 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: could be? Hopeully would have shot me to see point? 10 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: And what up is dj e FN and his drink? Now? 11 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: This is one of the episodes I love. This is 12 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: one of the moments I love because not only is 13 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: this man a legend, we recently had discrepantencies or misunderstanding. 14 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: And when you do something that's wrong, or if you 15 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: do something that you thought, um, you didn't mean to, 16 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: but you gotta write your wrongs. And that's what real 17 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: men do. Real men don't base their feelings of a 18 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: boyish behavior. Real men act like real men. And besides that, 19 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: we had the invitation to him, we we we got 20 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: respectful him He's a legend, one of the first child stars, 21 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: not only just a child star, but a child star 22 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: that was like gangster. He's in mad movies, got movies 23 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: with l L, got records with Big Ol, part of 24 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: the motherfucking legendary Well tell you motherfucking clan. But I 25 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: kind of feel like he started his career on his own. 26 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: We don't get to the bottom of that. We're gonna 27 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Movie's gonna talk about this new show. 28 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about everything. In case you don't know 29 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: who the funk we talk about Shah, the rugged man, 30 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: page page page. You can't you can't. You can't want 31 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: to be the rugged child no more right, you know what, 32 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: It's one of them things. I don't think I'll ever 33 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: be able to shake it, like Luduwayne can never not 34 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: be accepted. Yee, I don't got a choice. It's like 35 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I tell people in my age and they still think 36 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm fifteen, Like they don't un to stand the growth. 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the beginning, because 38 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: how did you exactly get on? Because I believe we 39 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: heard of you prior to us here and about whoo who, 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: Well it will come out of ninety two? What what 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: what year was it? Well, my process into the music, 42 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: um Uchang was always the thing of Ruchang for me. 43 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: You know, Um, I'm from Stevens and Projects. You know, 44 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: Um Home and Gholdt Face producer, R and S, Rocky 45 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: and m Yeah like that flow so like and um 46 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: and Knife Prince, you see me, Knife Prince. We met 47 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: in second grade and we were just friends. And Rock 48 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: he was his big brother. They had DJ equipment, you 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was coming from the Projects. 50 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I really didn't have that, but I was able to 51 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: go around and see real speakers. Besides, back then we 52 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: used to have part parties, like yeah, DJ dr Rock 53 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: was from Staton Allen and he was that's the Foursome 54 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: seas back and then back in the A so they 55 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: would throw Paul jams. And that's what got me into it, 56 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Um, seeing that and then 57 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: dealing with real life like when my mom's drug addiction. 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: It was like when I was sitting in a wrap, 59 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: it was loved. So that kind of gave me the confidence. 60 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: And that's why my rom's always was about out that 61 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: about the struggle, because it was therapy for me. To 62 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: get it out because I didn't really have many people 63 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: to talk to. What age was you when you first 64 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: came out? When I came out, We'll see. This is 65 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: the thing I was kind of. I was outside for 66 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: a long time before I actually got on Mercury from 67 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: the legendary R and B group to force him ds 68 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: there from stat Mallen and Mirk would throw parties and 69 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: he would bring artists to stat Allen and he would 70 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: let me open up to perform. So that's how it was, 71 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: meeting like shoot out Green Daddy, are you naughty? All 72 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: before you know what I'm saying. I got my opportunity 73 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: once I started to do those shows rock Ym and 74 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: R and S who produced the un c S at 75 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: the time. He they started just like, oh, come up 76 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: to the studio and started to let me come around, 77 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: and then I started to. But the thing was, I 78 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: had to get my own tapes, you know what I'm saying. 79 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Back then you had to go get the Maxwell teams 80 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: and not saying store. That's what I had to do, 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: you know what I'm so, I would do all types 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: of things and no, no, no, thirteenes. Once I had 83 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: to deal we're talking, I'm probably nine. I'm probably like, 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that everything he's saying that him, 85 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: I never had a curve, you I mean, you know, 86 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: my mom's in the street, so it allowed me to 87 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: be outside. So my hustle was go to the store. 88 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: So that's how we'll get my little dollars. Taking bottles 89 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: to the store. That's who I was. That's who the 90 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: Rugged show was. I took bottles to the store. I 91 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: packed back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, excuse me, miss, Can I 92 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: help you see your bag with your car? The supermarket? 93 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: That was me drug dealers. Yeah, I'll go to store, 94 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: keep the change. And that's how I fed myself some 95 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: most nice you know. And I brought my tapes and 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: started to go up there and create demos. So I 97 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: had finally got a demo. It's called the Bad Little Basket, 98 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and r and nests and big wigs and God rout 99 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: taking them and he was shopping gp Will at the time, 100 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: and my song was on the tape and they're at 101 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: a meeting, and you know, back then, they would play 102 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: the tape and taper in and go to the other side. 103 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: So I had to meet in the tape go. So 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: in all that, I'm a bad little basstid, who do 105 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: you And they're like, who's this little girl girl? Because 106 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: you're so young. Everybody thought I was a girl. Even 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: Big Daddy King said, I thought he was a girl 108 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: when I've seen him because my head was white. I 109 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: don't know, but my voice was real, like EMC lightish right, 110 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: And they're like, NA, that's that's my little man for 111 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: my project. They're like, yo, you got a picture of them, 112 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: and it was like yeah, and they gave him a picture. 113 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: It was like yo, we want to sign them. And 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: it was just like word and then it was then 115 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: it was just like this little kid from Stevenson Projects 116 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: now got three hundred and fifty hollars because what was 117 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: the first labor side Virgin Records, Virgin Records. That was 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: what Janet Jackson was Jackson. Girls gotta smell Janet Jackson. No, 119 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: I actually didn't get jack but I met Michael Jackson 120 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: was calm down nine a kid. Now I see shot that. 121 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: I was. I know what I'm just saying, because that 122 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: sound what I'm saying, y'all went somewhere. I mean, it 123 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is what it is. I was young because it's easy 124 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: shoot like that. I was happy that man, Mike, when 125 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: I was a little older, when you know you're not drinking, 126 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna drink from Champaine. But I'm on the 127 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: What you want me to pop? You want to pop? 128 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: The Big Boy, the little Home. Honestly, all of it 129 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: looked big boys to me because I like, I heard 130 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: of the Ace of Spade when I was away in 131 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: the magazine. That's like, yeah, that's like big, big, big ship. 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, you gotta go big big. Don't leave this 133 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson story. No, no, no no, We're gonna right into it. Okay, 134 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: So what was you No? No, only reason, I said, Mike, 135 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: because you brought up Janet right I was. I was 136 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: at Sony Studio recording street seven Street. So it's the 137 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: old build, you know, it's a new building. Okay. So 138 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm near the exit smoking, or of a sudden, the 139 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: back door just pool. I see a mask. Yeah they've 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: been on the match. Yeah they've been, they've been. They've 141 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh ship, I said Mike Old. I'm like, you know 142 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: right away. Oh, He's like, oh I love you guys, 143 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I love your music. I was so hyped. I ran 144 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: back and told everybody, and then we all rushed thistly. 145 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: Everybody want to take this is the little cameras like 146 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: we was happy we didn't last five minutes after that 147 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: next thing, the phone ain't brute. Yeah, you guys is 148 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna be moved over to the other buildings security ology. 149 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: I was hyped. You got a picture with Mike's awareness 150 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: this world. It is somewhere in this world, but I 151 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: don't have it. But yeah, I don't have anything. You 152 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: know how this when you get locked up, it seems 153 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: like nothing. You don't have nothing no more. How is 154 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: that right? Because I see a lot of people don't know. Um, 155 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I went through poems big with him, right, I didn't know. 156 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: I did actually go to jail with him. But I'm 157 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: affected just as much as that we met in jail. 158 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: But this bid, the second bit had to be different 159 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: for people knew who he was when he walked through people. 160 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: How was that being someone famous? I didn't happen to 161 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: go back to that life because everyone's on the same level. 162 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: Everyone's the same here, Juliani's everyone's the same amount of commissary, 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: So how was that going from where you came from 164 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: to that? For me, I always remained the same. So 165 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: in any situation, I'm always the same You're gonna see 166 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: me the same head. I'm the same way in prison, 167 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm the same way. Celebrating with my family, I'm I'm 168 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: one way. I don't even know this way to be 169 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: and to be myself. So I always took me wherever 170 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: I went, and I gave respect and I demanded respect. 171 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: And that's stat I didn't play games. I didn't play cards, 172 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I didn't play basketball, I didn't wrap. I used the 173 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: penitentiary as a university. I studied, I wrote, I woke, 174 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: wroked out, and and and I got to see the 175 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: the world evolved without me and keep going without me. 176 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: And that was that was That was hard. That was 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: hard when I had to finally, when I made the 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: decision to stop reaching out, stop falling, and stop writing, 179 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: stop doing that with your five years, I did six 180 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: six ship. They chipped me out of it. Yeah, I 181 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: don't know why. They kept saying five years. Yeah that 182 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: all that BECA kept saying I was born in the 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: seventies six, and I'm like, no, I'm seventy seven, bro 184 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: give me another year, but continued, Yeah, so you know, 185 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: so that's how I carried myself. And unfortunately you know 186 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: there was there was a lot of brothers in there 187 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: that related to me in some way and felt like 188 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: I was their little brother. And and these guys never 189 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: got another opportunity at life, and they knew what I 190 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: was facing. I had. I had a terrible bit. I 191 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: had a seven or fourteen bid. So for those that 192 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: don't know what means, you could have do do anywhere from 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: seven years. Yeah, and with that, you gotta walk on 194 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: eight shells. And it was a thing of you know, 195 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: it's all type of things to get into and there 196 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, the drugs is there, the even the women 197 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: because you know, it's even with the CEO, and they 198 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: get the CEO. You get him some drama because he 199 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: liked her and in his mind, that's his girl, and 200 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: they just make up relationships and you're fighting, and yeah, 201 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: you're fighting. They go over something that ain't even yours 202 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: because she told you to start sweeping the steps. They're 203 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: mad that you're sweeping the steps. Now you gotta fighting 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: the over sweeping the steps because he feels like you're 205 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: taking his broth. And it's like, bro, we're mates, Like 206 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: this is not you know. So I stayed away from that, 207 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: and it was like a decision. You can stand outside 208 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: of the yard every day and reminisce about all the 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: dudes that had it and what you used to do 210 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: in the town, or you can focus on getting in 211 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: these programs and making them working better than yourself. And 212 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: I chose that. Do you do you bumping to anybody 213 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: else that was famous or anybody else that's right? Yeah, yeah, 214 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: I've seen me and True Life in Clinton. I've seen 215 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: True Life one day, but he was in a program 216 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: called APPU. I was in our general population, so I 217 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: had luckily, I was coming from the package room and 218 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: I had got through the gate, so I ain't even 219 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: supposed to be in whole. And when you went through 220 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: with them, when they walked, that's like having the man. 221 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Everything's short of a shot on walk with them, you 222 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I was like, oh, ship, 223 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: you know, it was so boy like. It was up yeah, 224 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. I am, you know, 225 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: shooting back back back to my thing. But I was 226 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: more excited to meet like the legends, like the Jails, 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: like like the Wems and like like like like legends 228 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: from the street, like you know what I mean. I was. 229 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: I was excited to meet those guys and just to 230 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: see where they went wrong at and you know, and 231 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: so I said, you know what, I got another chance. 232 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: I can't blow it. So so so how does that happen? 233 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: Now you come home, the woo embraces you. Does what 234 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: happens like the first bit of the second bit, I'm 235 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: talking about the second Yeah, this is the second bit, 236 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: this second bit, Um, it was great. It was great 237 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: because I was a man now dealing on man level. 238 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: Before I was you know, I was a kid, you 239 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So to finally be recognized and 240 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: dealt with as a man and respected as a man, 241 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: it's a long time coming, you know. Um, for a 242 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: lot of time in my life, I um, I expected things, 243 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: you know, and then when I expected things, I got 244 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: let down. So everything is a plus for me today. 245 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: I lived my life for today and like I just 246 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: embraced everything for today. It's a good one today. I 247 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know about tomorrow, but I'm gonna enjoy this one 248 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: right now. I'm enjoyed being on drink chance because like 249 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: this is a miracle. This is a miracle for me 250 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: in my life. And and like I promised God when 251 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: when I was in that cell, and I broke down. 252 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I praised with Law and I asked him to fix 253 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: me and fix my life and take everything that's not 254 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: good for me away and put right people in my path. 255 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: And and he did that for me. And I'm sitting 256 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: here today, so I want to let you know that. Yeah. 257 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: One of um Uh joints I was listening to today, 258 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: you get my notes. Um he said everyone's a huddler 259 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: until they get locked up and turned blood or musclum. Yeah, well, 260 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: big banks take little band and in New York pnitentiary, 261 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: the two biggest monsters is the homies and the Muslim community. 262 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: And that's just what it is. You see dudes that 263 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: was everything in the world, and you know, and not 264 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: saying that they might not find God and want to 265 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: change their life, and those potent because if we do. 266 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: But sometimes when they's false, you see them when they're home, 267 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: they're not on the d n still they throw they 268 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: crowned soon as they get off the bus. There's mad 269 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: Bibles and Korans and and crowns and koufies in the bucket. 270 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And that's that's when they're 271 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: repeated because you're not serious with your with your your growth. 272 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: You ever thought New York City would be like that, 273 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: Like you know, um, you're being so young in the game, 274 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you had to travel to California and 275 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: see the differences. Like we had to guard abouties. We had, Um, 276 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: we had poss Yeah, we had posts, we had the spades, 277 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: and we had all of this, but it wasn't really 278 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: per se gangs like even Zulu Nation. Like Zulu Nation 279 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: was actually looked at as something that was positive. And 280 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: then it gets to the West Coast and the Bloods 281 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: and the crypt thing, and I remember us actually laughing, 282 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: not not laughing, but like, look, look like what are 283 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: they doing? They got Jerry Curls and and like why 284 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: are they doing this? And then now New York is 285 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: doing that? Well, um, I'm real about it. I think 286 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: it's just the state of the monitor people. Because some 287 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: people are followers and some people are leaders. It's a 288 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: bunch of followers that follow the trend, you know what 289 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean. And they don't know no better, they don't know. 290 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: They're just going off what they appeared, what they see, 291 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: what they where they see to be real, and sometimes 292 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: it takes some people their life and then sometimes take 293 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: people in prison forever, and then some people get it 294 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: in between and changes the life around. I think New 295 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: York is following on a whole lot of levels on 296 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: music when everything I think with us, what we did 297 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: was because it was everything we set the trends all 298 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: the time, and what we stopped doing with sticking together. 299 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: It was the time I remember as a kid. As 300 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: a kid, the whole industry was mines. Everybody was my 301 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: big brother Chuck, They big daddy. Can these dudes when 302 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: they've seen you, they grabbed you, they hugged you, they 303 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: told you, and they now you see a dude, it's 304 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: a standoff. You didn't see who's the fly. It's like 305 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: I can't say that the shine he got really all 306 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: I like to say software. I don't want to say 307 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: it was always like that, but it was a great 308 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: time where everyone embraced everyone like when you had it, 309 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: Like when I had an album release party, everyone would 310 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: be there like I couldn't even I didn't even have 311 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: to call people. I do remember that time you ever 312 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: throw a hip hop will be a little level like 313 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: as big as it is, like the verses and all 314 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: this ship is. I mean, I'm happy, you know what 315 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm happy to be a part of it, 316 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They see the evolutionary growth. 317 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Of course it has to change. These kids want to 318 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: do what they want to do, and there's nothing wrong 319 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: with that. Um yeah, but it's growth. Is it's a 320 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: lot to be done because it's all the other things 321 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: that can come from hip hop that we're able to do. 322 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: Use our popularity, use our voices to clean up the community, 323 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: to start businesses, and use our voices just tell people 324 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: how to go about it. Because one thing we lack 325 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: in our community is the information. If I would have 326 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 1: knew half the things that I've learned along our journey, 327 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have, you know, stumbled as much. And not 328 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: to say I went and made no mistakes, I wouldn't 329 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: stubbled as much. And that's what the other people do 330 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: in their communities. They give them the information when they're 331 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: in high school, they're preparing for their giving them the Jews. 332 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: They're giving them that and they're helping them walk through it. 333 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: I think every in our community, everybody just goes to 334 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: self when they make it. I think that's what for 335 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Ell said on our he said when he said the 336 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: information we can't hide the information. We have to share 337 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: share the information. And I think, uh, that's something that 338 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: we've been trying to do on Drink Champs. Just the 339 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: crabs in the bucket mentality, Yeah, the crabs in the 340 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: bucket me you got you got those? Ready? Rise? You 341 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So this is what we do 342 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: for our legends. You know what I'm saying. We want 343 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: you to know you were way invited, way before this 344 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: dumb sit and you're always gonna be invited. So we 345 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure you got your flowers. You know 346 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying to your motherfucking face. You know what 347 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I mean. You know what 348 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Come on, come on, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 349 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: your motherfucker what I'm saying, Nah, that's this is just 350 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: for the crib. You know what I'm saying. Roses, Yeah, 351 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: and they lasted a couple of years because that's what 352 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: our show is about. What show was about giving flowers. Um, 353 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: it's always been about giving flowers. Are we gonna make 354 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: some mistakes along the way, of course we will. Are 355 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: we gonna make get some mistakes after? Of course we 356 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: will with our hearts and our goal is in the 357 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: right mind and the right frame. It's the great intentions 358 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 1: and we wanted you to know that face to face. 359 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Man and man, I my nigga, thank you know what 360 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So now I need you to go just 361 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: go on and on. But I just counted as twelve 362 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: is right, one plus Stewie Street. That's understands. Understand he 363 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: had to go. So you gotta take me to this 364 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: goes on and on? Shot you made that record? How 365 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: does how do where? What's going on? You were eleven? 366 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: You know it was it was the No. I was 367 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: like thirteen and it was No. Actually fourteen and it 368 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: was a fourteen fourteen fifteen somewhere around and you know, 369 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: I just started get old years with up. But um 370 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: it was the last song for the album. H and 371 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: my manager Wigs He Wiggs was always the uh instill 372 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: in like black history for me, Like different from with 373 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: when I was with the Guards, you know what I'm saying. 374 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: He was like uh Martin Luther King. He was more peaceful, 375 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When I was with the Guards, 376 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: it was more revolutionary. So but he will always he 377 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: had Yeah, I felt but this is what I'm saying. 378 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: So it was just the Jews, and he was like, Yo, 379 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: you have to be the reporter. That's who you are. 380 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: You have to show through your eyes, you know what 381 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I said, all right, well I'm right 382 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: through my eyes. And that's what came out of it. 383 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: And because in the line where I said, oh, man 384 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: got shot in the parking lot in front of my building, 385 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: I hain't with his grandchildren. It wasn't actually an old 386 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: man and his grand child. It was actually a dude 387 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: by the name of Tom Reagan that I looked up 388 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: to my neighborhood. He was fly and it's like a 389 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: dude just shot him under the building. It's just like 390 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I killed him. That was one of my early depths. 391 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: You're not when you're young. You have to see and 392 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: it always affects me because he was one of the 393 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: dudes that had one of those smiles, you know what. 394 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: It seemed like everybody that goes has that smile. And 395 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: then it's like he had that smile, and it was 396 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: just like I never forgot him. And when I was 397 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: writing that and I said, ah, this is what happens 398 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood. So was was like because I you know, Um, 399 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: we interviewed Germaine Duprix, right, and it's something that I 400 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: asked him, like, you know him working with child Stars, 401 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: is he could always get this money from Nickelodeon or Disney? 402 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: Was that ever like people who ever say, calm it 403 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: down was thirteen. By the time you're eighteen, you might 404 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: could be in a fucking Walt Disney. Oh man, it 405 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: was many. It was many relaxed on the god just 406 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: to telling me that to change my narrative to to 407 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: you know, be a little more clean, you know what 408 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um to join him Mature because I did 409 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: a record with Immature. UM called to Love his group 410 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: and they wanted me to join the group. And I 411 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: was wanted he had like to be the rap like 412 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: like the rapper because we did the song and I 413 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: couldn't I doing it and it was a lot of money. 414 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: But you know, coming from the projects, this is what 415 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: I love about coming from where I come from. It 416 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: gives you this thing called fuck it and it's like, yo, 417 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: for my principles and my pride, funk it. It's like, 418 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: this is who I am. I turned down movies because uh, 419 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna kick over a garbage kid, because I 420 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: know if I came back to the project, they're gonna 421 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: kill me. Was kicking over the garbage cans in the project, 422 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: I couldn't have lived, you know what I'm saying. So 423 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: I based everything off of what I thought that the 424 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: people from my neighborhood would think of me. That it's 425 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: a boat, it's a mindus true, because that's not real life. 426 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: You shouldn't. You should live your real life what people think. 427 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: But as a kid, you're only influenced about what you 428 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: see in your world. So in my book back for 429 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: a long time, I carried everybody else and Ship everybody 430 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: else's thoughts, everybody that I accumulated, and and then it 431 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: was soon when it when it burst and it was 432 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: over and everybody went to their real obs. I was 433 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: still stuck in amazed, like, oh Ship, it ain't no 434 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: real industry, it ain't these things. Really don't love me, 435 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: o ship? This was business? Oh yeah, sorry, kid, this 436 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: is this is business. I'm not like, really your lawyer, 437 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I ain't come in to court to help you with 438 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: with this is I'm not gonna help you kids. You 439 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: got the budget cold, somebody they're not what and didnt 440 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: reality hits you like, oh ship, that's eighteen you're saying 441 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: started hitting you with that. No, no, but let's song 442 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: shot because this is like your first hit rep year, right. 443 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: How many people finger popped at that time? I was 444 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: at least I don't know why I was clevering. But no, no, not. 445 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. A lot of the women probably 446 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: be in jail right now because I wasn't dealing with 447 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: thirteen years when she was the opposite off. Yeah, yeah, 448 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: I was getting what I'm telling you. I remember how 449 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: I got my bed. I'll tell you how I got it. 450 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: He was when I was young. The older guys would 451 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: tell you want them, you gotta get the bed. You 452 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: ain't doing that right because I'll be talking to a 453 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: girl I come through the process Puerto Rican? Here, what's 454 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: the guy who told you that? To Puerto Rican? I'ma 455 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: have Cuban, so I don't I don't speak nothing. Yeah, 456 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: supposed to be eating pussy early. So it was the 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: thing like you know, you know, you got a little 458 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: girlfriend and you couldn't come through the bout of the 459 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: building on the bench. Everybody out there hustling, so like, yeah, 460 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: you don't know what to do with that. You ain't 461 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: doing the right then, and I'm like, just I am chilling. 462 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: You don't say you mean eating. I'm like that's nasty. 463 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: And he's like, here, you gotta put your whole face 464 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: everything the chin aside. And my superdass was like, yeah, right, 465 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: if you did all this ship that, I can't even 466 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: cut it. I cut it today. It's like two, mom, 467 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: it's crazy. That's how you get it. That's how you 468 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: get this band. I thought that was just Puerto Rican ship. 469 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't even know Cuban Cubans you know cute. 470 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: I did not that they came. You'm okay have black 471 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: to Jamaican's. Don't want that, baby, Yeah, I know a 472 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: few of that, dude though. Yeah, they'd be low riding, 473 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: yeah we call it. Yeah, but a lot of them, 474 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: you know. But you got a thing at the time, 475 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: besides the rap celebrity girls. I was around my age 476 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: and I used to think I would have a relationship with, 477 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, a girl, right, It's okay, let's just strow 478 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: it out. Dude, you're knock. I mean see, there's a 479 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: problem with that, right, because I don't want to seem 480 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: like I wanted them dudes that like talk about some 481 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: old ship. It was twenty years ago. Just be clear. 482 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: We had Nick Cannon sitting in the same table. Oh 483 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: he's a and he said, he said that Kim Kardashian 484 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: hurt his feelings and we had to say we had 485 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: to be with him. So you ain't got nothing to 486 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: worry about her. Yeah, he said, he said, listen, he damn, 487 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: I blowing up to the episode. But the episodes out right, 488 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: he said, he ket he kept it real. We had 489 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: to take a couple of shots to start smoking smoke. 490 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: He just smoke me, and he said, he said he 491 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: kept it real. He said he would have stuck by 492 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: her if she would have said that the rage tape 493 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: was real. But he said that she said jal, So 494 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: he was like hi, And then when he came out, 495 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: he was hurt. He said, could he could? He said, 496 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: but he was? He did? Oh s I don't know. 497 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends why that's his own motor d 498 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but I didn't know. You gotta put 499 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: it like knockdown. Who did everybody? Damn? I think it 500 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: was Monica one. No Monica was that I met Monica 501 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: Monica is a cool person, very like Churchy. That wasn't 502 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: really like not to say she was my style, but 503 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: I was into the Bite street girls. But I like 504 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: girls like the girls that I liked. I like like 505 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: Foxy Brown, like like Feed. I'm like like Queen Pin. 506 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: I like girls like that. Okay, okay, I followed. I 507 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: like I like old girls. I like girls like that 508 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: that was in the industry doing this thing on the 509 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: high level, very hat swag they was doing. You know 510 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. I followed all the way through standing 511 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: over respectfully. Actually she's very good person. So I never like, 512 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: never talked to help in that manner. So, um, move 513 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: it on. How did you start acting? What was what 514 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: was the actor who told you it was the first 515 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: The first off I got was to be in the 516 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: Friday Movie to Being Fridays as the little kid Chris 517 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: kicking over the garbage kids. And I was like, I 518 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: ain't doing that. You're going to So when you said 519 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: kicking over the garbage kid, what are you talking about? 520 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: They told you not to do it. I didn't want 521 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: to do because think about it, right during that time, 522 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: right we're talking the early nineties, you just kind of 523 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: sell out like at that time, it was like, yo, 524 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: you got a movie. It was to sell out, right. 525 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: I remember. There's no disrespect to anybody, but I remember 526 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: it was a time, right because I hung with Cane 527 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: and came, man, that's like, that's like that's all that's 528 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: my heart, right. And he will always give me these 529 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: jews like never sell your publishing this, and he said, 530 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, you need to take your career to two 531 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: movies and things like that. And I would come back 532 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: home around the trying to make you a sell out 533 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: and I'm like yo, and then so I'm like nah. 534 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: My mind was like I don't want to be a 535 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: sell out. You know what I'm saying, Like, na, I'm 536 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: hip hop. All that was done radio. You ain't bar 537 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: me throwing stretch you made to the red. This thing 538 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: is dumb. You're being a party. And they're like nah, 539 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: he he you don't wrap us no more. It wasn't 540 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: some commercials and things of money like that. And he 541 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: would said, forget all this against sticking true to the culture. 542 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to get the bag. And if I got 543 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: to do a flip in the strike commercial, that's what 544 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: they did and it made it sells everybody out at 545 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: the end of the day. But wait, was the frind 546 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: of thing before the til Yeah? Yeah, it was before 547 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: because it's the same director. So when that ain't happened 548 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: for that, he called me back. He said, all right, 549 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: it's not acting, it's just eat in the video. And 550 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: or you're doing this being yourself, he said. I said, 551 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: what is it for? He said, TLC. I was saying, 552 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm on that, and and it was just 553 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: to be in a video. I didn't think of it. 554 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think of it as acting. I just thought 555 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: that it's being in the video. But but Friday, did 556 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: you know what Ice Cub was attached to that? I didn't. 557 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I didn't really care, you know what I mean. I 558 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: didn't care because for me, with me and the world 559 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: was coming to a party and rock him giving you 560 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: a DAP or Chuck Deed telling me that I'm the bridge, 561 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, I'm not doing this. I want 562 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: to be accepted, you know what I'm saying on the block. 563 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: I don't really care about that, you know what I mean. 564 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: So that's why. But then when he said the video, 565 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'm not acting. I'm not really 566 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: So I did that and then the next call I 567 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: got was by Fred Williamson for Original Gangster's Original Games. 568 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: And this is one of the things when I can 569 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: say this, if people weren't you, they're gonna find you. 570 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I don't care if you under the rock and nothing's 571 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: all that you need to be politics and have this 572 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: one that's bullshit. When you if you got interests and 573 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: people see value in you, they're gonna find So that's 574 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: what happened. My phone rang one day. It's an old 575 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: man by the name of Fred Williamson the Hammer. Now 576 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: people who know who the hammer is, they know me. 577 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know, so I'm like, who it's the Hammer? 578 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I can't touch this. He like na, 579 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: He's like, no, this is Fred Williamson, he said. I said, okay, 580 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: well what's up. He's like, I want you in the movie. 581 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, ask your mama, who who who the Fred? 582 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: Him Williams said, I'm like, yo, you know some dude 583 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: about him Jim browning them? Everybody? Man, they didn't jumped 584 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: up my uncle. You're doing that. You're doing that. I 585 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: don't care about all that ship you're doing. You know 586 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: what they did for black people and movie and films 587 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: and everything you're gonna go and being this film where 588 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: I got a ouncle God bless your soul named she 589 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: Go my uncle Charlie. And he was like when he said, 590 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and you're gonna do it, You're gonna do it. You're 591 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: going you do it. And that's how I got there 592 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: makes no noise. Un hold on, I got so much notice, 593 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: but hold on, hold on, Oh ship dam and who 594 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: real quick time with Slim today. Uh, these guys you 595 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: don't see the argument the bens they're gonna be Yeah, 596 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: there's mad loud on the side. Bro, you ain't see 597 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: that ship were you said? We're you sending that ship? 598 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: You personally on the group chat I'm talking about earlier 599 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: the um that was a group chat. Okay, cool, all right, cool, 600 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, this is good organic food can 601 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: to Jack Teller. Voso was a part of Jack Teller 602 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Jack Diller. You know I said, I said, oh eat 603 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: a new ferrycon Jack. He called me. He called me like, 604 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: what's what's got to do with it? Either love or 605 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: hate him? Like they either love him or they hate him. 606 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: He's good. We love him over if we love we 607 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: love him? But our fast day day up in the 608 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: air with him. So all right, cool, So I'm gonna 609 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: run through a couple of these, and I want you 610 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: to tell me what what what it means to you 611 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: when I said to a kid of rugged child at 612 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: four a K eight to rugged child in four, damn 613 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: that that little nigga man um because he literally is 614 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: a different person. He wanted to save the world. He 615 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: wanted to bring everybody from his projects with him. If 616 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I could have, I would have a thirteen. I would 617 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: have had everybody, everybody. I would like to believe through 618 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: my actions and and and maybe you know, the people 619 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: from our neighborhood maybe could tell you better than I 620 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: could probably tell you. But I would like to believe 621 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: that I shared. I shared my my, my money, my fame, 622 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: my life with them. You know, I gave his music 623 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: business more than half my whole existence in the planet, 624 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: you know. And you know I'm hip hop. I dedicate 625 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: my life to this ship. Okay, the Lord's generation. Oh 626 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: he was arrogant, he had some money. Yeah, it's the 627 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: same little little year. But he's yeah, he control now 628 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: he you know, Yeah he's getting some virgin yeah, yeah, yeah, 629 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: he's virgin new trial because they had created a rap department. 630 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying, it's me, the Loonies 631 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: and scar Faced, a couple of rap. A lot dudes 632 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: was over there. Um yeah, so it transition, but it 633 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: was still under version. Um yeah, I was, I was. 634 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: I was having sex. You know what I'm saying. I was. 635 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: You you're scoring now? Yeah. I used to collect phone 636 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: numbers everything, so you know, Uh so I was, I was, 637 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was. Yeah, I was a little horn 638 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: though I'm a scorpio two. So I when I was, yeah, 639 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: I was hard. I was busting him down. But that 640 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: was the last generation O man child. That's when ship 641 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: got real. That's got that ship got real. That's when 642 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: it changed from with with you. So now you got 643 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: the honey you're saying the audience to people, Well, I don't, 644 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about music. I can't 645 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what fans was things. I don't really 646 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: base my life on what that force is. It's just 647 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: like in my personal life and in my community, in 648 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: my neighborhood, it started to change. People that was rooting 649 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: for me was for me, but then it was like 650 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: it started to change into jealousy. It started to change 651 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: into because you're next to me. Now you feel you 652 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: should have what I have and you feel that I'm 653 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: stopping you from getting it. And it's not me, it's 654 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: God's blessing me. How are you mad at me for 655 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: him blessing me? Pray and he'll brush you. But that's 656 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: what happened. So it started to turn the Hey, I 657 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: started to get caught fighting, getting caught with guns because 658 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: I ain't know no better, and all I knew what 659 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: to do was yo and get a gun. Was I 660 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: ready to shoot somebody? Absolutely not. I couldn't tell you. 661 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: I remember fronting in the mirror like I'm on, oh 662 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: my god, one walking with it. I wasn't prepared for that, 663 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's what happens with 664 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: a lot of kids and teenagers. We get thrown into 665 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: a a gang, get thrown into business, whether it's hustling 666 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: and being out there, and don't know what to do 667 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: when the real ship happens. So you make these mistakes 668 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: and the only thing that's gonna teach you at that 669 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: point is growth and moaning. When they say you're enough 670 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: enough for this ship, well I took it, Okay, the 671 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: greatest story never told. H I felt that way. I 672 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: felt that way I felt to come into this come 673 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: coming from my struggles. I was born with bron kite. 674 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't even supposed to live. I was born at 675 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: six months to having a mother that had me at sixteen. 676 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: Then I was raised by my grandmother, so she died. 677 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: Then I was just outside. My mother was getting high. 678 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: Then I it came a wrapper and got money. Then 679 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: everybody was just around me and flooded my hear and 680 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: telling me it was good for me, it was best 681 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: for me. And I was just a follower. And I 682 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: went down a long road that I didn't have to 683 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: go to trying to be something that I'm not. And 684 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: when I was in prison this last song, I realized, 685 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm not like that. As much as I would like 686 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: to believe, I'll go all the way to funk out. 687 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I want a better life. I want to 688 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: live good, I want to be happy. I don't want 689 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: to live every day I have to go to night. 690 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's what it did. It it opened, It 691 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: opened the geese. Damn, that was a great ship. Hold on. 692 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: I still got more notes. I got a lot of notes, 693 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: I went in there. Yeah, but did you know this this? 694 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: What more did we gonna disrespectfully speaking? M hmm, good one, 695 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: great one. Actually, I would say this is the time 696 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: you wan ray Kun is not saying yeah, yeah, it's 697 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: um um. I expected. I had a big expectitious right, 698 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: and in my mind I thought that ray Kawan and 699 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: Wos saying should be doing more for me. Right, That's 700 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: where I was at that and I felt that I 701 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: wasn't one that was like again because I had my 702 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: different start, you know what I mean. So I wasn't 703 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: looking for a handout. I was just saying, yo, look 704 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: look what I do. I'm talented, I wrapped, I act. 705 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: Why you not? What's up? Throld me? I'm under the rim. 706 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: So if you're standing in the rim for so long, 707 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: throw with fucking throw it. It's like, yo, what I'm 708 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna take the fucking ball and I'm 709 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: gonna throw that ship because I'm wide open all the time. 710 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: So but it was I was still immature, you know 711 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And I didn't realize where he was 712 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: at in his life as a man. Because now I'm 713 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: at that place as a man and I see it 714 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: through those eyes. You don't know how to express it. 715 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 1: I expressed it well on my level because I don't 716 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: say that I didn't feel that way because I felt 717 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: how I felt. I don't know. I'm not taking back 718 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: how I felt at all, but how I handled it 719 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: it was immature and very kitty of me, you know 720 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But and after I thought about it, 721 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 1: when you got that time, when you think about it, 722 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: all the good memories, I'm like, sho, I love this 723 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: nigga like I have great times too. And then it's like, 724 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: once I started to come into my own understanding, I 725 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: owed him an apology and I gave him a sincere 726 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: apology because I understand where it was that because it's 727 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: like your what value was I bringing to him? It's 728 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: like this, I can say, yo, norm I got your number. 729 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: You don't call me right and you can say where 730 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: you don't go me togther, So it's like yo, I'm like, yo, 731 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: you ain't throwing the ball to me. It's like, well, 732 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 1: what boy you through to me? And then then that's 733 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: real reality and it's like work, I ain't never throw 734 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 1: you stuff. If you remember this, please please remember. But 735 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: I swear to God. I had that same conversation, we'll 736 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: do for my hood. He hit me one day, he said, 737 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: you don't call me. You don't call me when you're 738 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: in the hood. And I said, but you don't call 739 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: me when you know I'm in the hood. So who 740 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 1: the fund is wrong here? Yeah? Yeah, the same conversations 741 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: in life. You have to take responsibility for what you did. 742 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I wasn't hurt or offended by that action, 743 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: but I had to take responsibility for myself and through 744 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: my own personal growth, I was able to see where 745 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: he stood in his life because that's how I sent 746 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: in my life. Like, Yo, if we're together, then we 747 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: brabbling together. We're doing business. And not only we doing business, nigger. 748 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: When my kid has a birthday, you know you're there, 749 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: and you're not only just some party friend or some 750 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: music family, your family family. So it just puts things. 751 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: I was able to put things in its proper perspective. 752 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: Like even with with my finances, I had to learn 753 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: to do that. I make a dollar, I don't got 754 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: a dollar, a quarters for this, quarters to that, quarters 755 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: for this, quarters for that, and then I'm able to 756 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: have a little balance. The same thing with relationships. This 757 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: relationship may just be smoking blunts and getting drunk, or 758 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: she may just be the chick I hang out with 759 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: the go to parties. But she's not gonna come up 760 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: eight hours to the president. What was you stupid for 761 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: thinking she was coming. She's at the next party, idiot. 762 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: And that's reality for yours. When reality strikes and you're 763 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: sitting on that ball with them itchy blankets. God make 764 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 1: so much that this is a game we played with 765 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 1: all all of our guests. We know you're not drinking, 766 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: so we're gonna drink for you. Lets you want when 767 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: your homies sitting for you? You know what I mean? 768 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Wait with June June's out, can you 769 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: come on Papa there drinking. Let's see if you gonna 770 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: hold it down from New Jersey. Motherfucker's is playing dirty 771 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: from the beginning. He's like my people when they put it, yeah, 772 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: I like I like it. I like it. Come on here, 773 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: let's see. You got you gotta drink down to drink shins, 774 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: don't represent, don't represent, and get the table. Just get 775 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: on the shots because you got you got. There's a 776 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: second one right on right here. Look if you want 777 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: drink shins, don't get drunk under the table. Let's go. 778 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: You get some water if you want. Yeah, I definitely 779 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: all right. Cool. You gotta stand up because you know 780 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: whatever he's gonna drink. Yeah, what what you want to drink? 781 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: You want to drink? Do say you want to drink? 782 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm drinking something. You can drink my majuana. You can 783 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: drink something Colombia water, watermelon. He don't start speaking Spanish? 784 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: Then you speak Spanish a lot of damn time. Now 785 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: you're talking about me. That means he told about me 786 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: because you don't know he speaks Spanish. You're gonna get 787 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: in with y'all. Stop speaking Spanish. Who speaks Spanish? Cool? 788 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: You can man? Wanna I respect that mama? Who I'm 789 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: not gonna follow you, but I'm gonna respect that mama. 790 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 1: Wanna all right? Cool? Quick time of slim. You answer 791 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: you can you can say one or the other. Well, 792 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: you could say both. You say both of your man drinks. 793 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: It's nothing you can say no answer your man drinks. 794 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: But we all drink no word, so we are using them. Yeah, okay, 795 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know which one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, 796 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: I just I don't know which one you're gonna pick 797 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: on this one. This is really some inside wootang ship 798 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: you have to pour up or expected debt as far 799 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: as what we don't know check it's whatever in your 800 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: mind and if you want us. I don't know if 801 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: you're saying this as if they're m C or who 802 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: I have would relationship with it if it if it 803 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: goes to the relationship, who I'm gonna call in my 804 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: phone first, I'm gonna calling spack and back the side 805 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: of okay if it goes to MCIN sounds like both 806 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: to me, sir with enjoy solo solo. This is good. 807 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: It is good for man. I want to I want 808 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: to say what it is, but I don't want my 809 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: man isn't only be like a freaky I'm but I 810 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,720 Speaker 1: don't want to be like a stick and people thinking 811 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: to don't worry about the water all right, Um, I 812 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: don't know where you're going with this one. Neither marbdep 813 00:43:52,680 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: or m O p wow okay, yes, okay O d 814 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: B A big punt O g B or prospect that 815 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: this is where it's gonna get a little crassy puff 816 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: daddy or shug mm hmmm. Have you ever met Shug. Mhm, 817 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: I need to hit the story. But wait, wait, let 818 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: him ask you for answer first. Damn, neither, that's a shot. 819 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 1: That's a shot, So do the rules of the game. 820 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: I respect that. Let's hear the story before we know 821 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: the reason why. I say neither, right, because both of 822 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: them are real moguls, right, you gotta put daddy story too. 823 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: We'll take them both, right, they're both big moguls, right 824 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: at least when ship was out, he was a big mogul. 825 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: And for what I wanted do in the business, it's 826 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: no room for me to be under a big mogul 827 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: because I want to be a big more so. It's 828 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: nothing so either one of them brothers, But I just 829 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: want to be because you met but you, but you 830 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: met you done with. I didn't there. I met him, 831 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: I was, I was. I met him a crazy way, 832 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 1: but I met him crazy crazy. I was out in 833 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: California and you know, I'm running around the beach somehow 834 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: and that everything I can hollight career, we probably where 835 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, yeah, mallible, Okay, I used to hang 836 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: out like I was. I was when I was out there. 837 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, I hung out in Hollywood. You know what 838 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean. I really I went to the hood sometime, 839 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: but I was a Hollywood kid, you know me. Um, 840 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: so I meant this female and we start hanging out. 841 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I gotta go by a studio, my 842 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: boy DJ Quick, you know I mean, So I go 843 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: by to check great new men the studio and you 844 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: knew Quick was already right yah yah, Yeah, I met 845 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: Quick is another story. Just it's just one of them 846 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: things that God puts me in your life when they're 847 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: supposed to be there. And I go to the studio 848 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: and I'm with her and they're like, you know, who 849 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: the funk that is? Your baby, mama one. But that 850 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: was over. After that, I said, you got to go. 851 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna stopped talking to him, and I guess her 852 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 1: things always always messing up things for me, But it's 853 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: not like that. And then when I met him, he 854 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: was like, no, I would have been a little man, 855 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: And I was like, they wouldn't have been because you know, 856 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: I didn't really want those type of problems. Understand, I understand, 857 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: can be moving on. This was like two thousand. This 858 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 1: is like two thousand around. That's how he's doing one 859 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: of the roots and clan albums out there. One of 860 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: them they we wasn't. I was just with them while 861 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: they was recording. Okay, I know what you're gonna go 862 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: with this one. Dr dre Listen. I mean again, see 863 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: if I could have see again he got What is 864 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: it for? Because if it's him, I need both of you. 865 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: It's whatever criterias in your mind. I mean you couldn't. 866 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: That's that's the craziness. I'm trying to figure out what 867 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: you mean because it's like it's just so vast it's 868 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 1: meant for you to be drinking. If you would be 869 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: drinking this, this game gets better better because I just 870 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: need to know what I can say. As as as 871 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: artists both yea, because it's just it just helps categorized. 872 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't want my words to be misconstued. It's just 873 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, shoes doctor drain over the ris and it's 874 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: like we're just showing about the risk is my big brother. 875 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: I can never We're just gonna drink for you, but 876 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna driw you just how you did both of them. 877 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: Have both of them produced for me? That would be 878 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: a would be crazy solent. We're taking a show. We're 879 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 1: doing both right, on that. Ye both, all right, what's 880 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: he getting? Normous? All right? This one again, the more 881 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: should change it a little bit, but you can make 882 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: him fall. I'm gonna leave it. I'm gonna leave it. 883 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it. Method. But well would you like no, no, no, no, 884 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 1: I was gonna change because so method man or Jada 885 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 1: is okay this one, this one is a little tricky. 886 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: I like this one. I like the one before that. 887 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: Ray or Ghost Ghost okay, yeah, yeah, all right. I 888 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: think we should both all get our ship ready DMX 889 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:30,839 Speaker 1: or tupap both. There's no way that's one. I keep 890 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: both of them. We got DMX. Oh that's beautiful. Both 891 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 1: of them were so like they definitely was yeah, yeah, 892 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 1: Hix never heard seven ship. Yeah, that's the first one. 893 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: But I thought it was gonna be something before. Okay, 894 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: where was that freestyle? That clear? Plaium was nothing? That was? 895 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: What was that? What was? Understand I'm just stand square 896 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: guarding New York super fess understand me. You know that 897 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: ms TO recorded that right, because I got the vital 898 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: it was mr Vil he put off. Yeah, you know 899 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: what's crazy. I was just going through argue. I actually 900 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: had an argument because they was talking about it, and 901 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: I was in the commerce. I was like, it's a 902 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: free style, and I'm arguing with people when they're like, no, 903 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: what's the record, I'm like, no, it was a freestyle. 904 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,320 Speaker 1: And then he goes, oh, I made it a wreckie. 905 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: So now I go, okay, since it's a rekie, who 906 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 1: got my publishing? Now? Who took my If it's a record, 907 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: If that freestyle is now a record and it's now streaming, 908 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 1: it's now getting Royal's, somebody got some money. That's true. 909 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: Is it streaming? I know it's on vinyl. If it 910 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: was made into a record, it's a release. I always 911 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: was under the assumption that it was a freestyle because 912 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I came up under the time when I was on 913 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: Doop subscribed to us what happened this night? Oh to night? 914 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,799 Speaker 1: I was on Tool. I was young. I was on Tool. 915 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: Big Daddy came everything. So last spots get too Actually, 916 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 1: how I actually get in to the New Yorkshire We 917 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,040 Speaker 1: I think me in Arizona and King had to literally 918 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: pick me up. It was It's the biggest arcade room 919 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: in the world. It seemed like it seemed like the 920 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: world was video game heaven, and I was in it, 921 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: but we had a plane to catch, and I was 922 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:45,760 Speaker 1: a kid. I did not want to leave, literally kicking, 923 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, I want to play games like 924 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: I was that kid because it got to a time 925 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,239 Speaker 1: when I wanted just to be a kid. I didn't 926 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: want to do no interviews, I didn't want to wrap. 927 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted to play basketball and do what I 928 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 1: ever did and didn't watch my friends. Yeah, but then 929 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,720 Speaker 1: your friends growing up experiencing real life. They're going to proms. 930 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,720 Speaker 1: You can't go because I'm not even in regular school 931 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: no more. Then they're getting married. I'm still in rapper life. 932 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: And then next thing you know, you with a whole 933 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: new crew that's not even your original crew because they 934 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: grew up and had to go down the road that 935 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: they had to go, and they kick your signs man, 936 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: kick her sons, so kick her sons. Yeah. So and 937 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 1: so that was. We ended up in New York and 938 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: we was doing I was always a part of the 939 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: tour coming out around it. But this show, since we 940 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: was in New York, he can bring out big Park. 941 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: So Park was Park was like considered East Coast guy. 942 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: This time, let's keep it real shot. He was he 943 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: was his story. I mean, he was like coast, he 944 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: was born out there. He just everybody knows that he 945 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: came out with he was you know, he at that time, 946 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 1: he even rep New York. He would wrap both um, Yeah, 947 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: that was I guess he was New York. But you 948 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: felt how did you feel about Yeah? You felt like 949 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: he was a New York dude because he had the thing. 950 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't really, yeah, but I see my 951 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 1: thing is this, I'm funny when it comes to my 952 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,319 Speaker 1: New York. Like I'm really funny with it. And even 953 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm from stat down right, and we like as far 954 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: as the New York thing, it's like sometimes New York 955 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,799 Speaker 1: and throw him on nowand and before it's like it's 956 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: like right, So it's like damn, you know what I mean. 957 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: It just made it more harder for us to wrap. 958 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: And we just wanted to be like me right, you 959 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean. She's saying I didn't. I didn't 960 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: really didn't. It's not that I didn't claim him, but 961 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't like y'all seeing it right when I when 962 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: I throw the y'all throw the queens identified with y'all's 963 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,320 Speaker 1: queens appreciate that I didn't identify with nowhere else, you 964 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But did junior head pop? This 965 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: is a nothing like the old school, Like no one 966 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,800 Speaker 1: he broke down Skelly, he broke down Italian ices. No 967 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: one could break down the New York summer unless you 968 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: actually was in that New York sothing like York has 969 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: been in the New York summer. But it's a difference 970 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: from growing up in New York summers. Gonna listen to 971 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: the record, you can tell he grew up with it, Like, 972 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: but what age did he because I've read it. I've 973 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: read a lot of his biography. I because but that's 974 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: what happened because he was dealing with you know, you know, 975 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 1: the rest of the soul. He was dealing with a 976 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: mother that also was battling drug addiction. So he was 977 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: like an army kid. He'd be in New York, then 978 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: he'd be in Michigan, and he probably moved all the 979 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: way around, so he had pieces of everybody. And that's 980 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 1: what made him such a great artist, because he was 981 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: able to tap in to the South or to the 982 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: West coast and to that and being related to those 983 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: people and was this is your first time meeting Pop 984 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: was that, No, no, no, I met Park. The first 985 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: time I met Pop was strew a guy by the 986 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: name of Richie Rich from the four or five. Yeah, 987 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: that's the first person. That's the first person on the 988 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 1: West Coast follow He was trying to school me just now, 989 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: But that's the first I mean, I don't know, but 990 00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. I was she I was shot. I 991 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: was young when I met Richie was probably one of 992 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: the first robbers I ever met, going to West Coast 993 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 1: and everything. And right away he scooped me. I'm a 994 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,759 Speaker 1: little bigg I'm riding around Oakland with Richie Rich like that. 995 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: He even gave me the full one. I got the 996 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: full one five original varsity jacket, the green train, he 997 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: gave that to me. I still slf got that. And 998 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: that's how I met Park And did you underground that way? 999 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: And then it was just like full circle again through Kane. Wow, wow, 1000 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: all right? And that Big you knew that was the 1001 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: first time meeting Big. Oh no, Big was Big was 1002 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: Big was different, you know what I mean? Big was 1003 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: from New York, so it was more people with people 1004 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: because like again I knew Clark Ken you always had smoother. 1005 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 1: Hustler triggered again with no, I wasn't even into um 1006 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: spoken ad like that like that. I was just I was. 1007 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: I was a new b at that time. You know, 1008 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: me smoke at the school like I see when when 1009 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: when bigg and them was a round, I was more 1010 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: like season them me season all of them was more 1011 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279 Speaker 1: cool and and talk and Big was the big bro. 1012 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: But let's keep it real. I wasn't going to the 1013 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 1: club with him, see what I'm saying. Okay, so we're 1014 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: gonna move on. You know we're not moving on. We 1015 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 1: haven't really discussed that whole scenario. You know, that whole 1016 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: show's legendary. That's a moment in hip. Yeah, yeah, okay, 1017 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,319 Speaker 1: so you couldn't. So you were there, what happens? How 1018 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: does that whole during the show. Normally, because I was 1019 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 1: on the tour, we came. It's a segment where we 1020 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: would do the freestyle boom. But this particular show, he 1021 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: had extra guests to come on as well. So you 1022 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 1: know when he said, we're Bill Biggie smalls that to 1023 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 1: see the guarden go that you hear it from the audio. 1024 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: This is where this is where you are schooling me 1025 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 1: it's partying bullshit out around there. That's the only record, 1026 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: that's the only which is which is a hit from 1027 00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: the soundtrack Who's the Man soundtrack? Yeah, I'm in jail. 1028 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: I think this is we're speaking about. I'm in jail, 1029 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: So I need you to describe for me because all 1030 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm here is party and bullshit. But I'm hearing it 1031 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: through a Poughkeepsie radio radio station. How important was that 1032 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: record to New York City and the party and bullshita? 1033 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,880 Speaker 1: Because it was it was He was a mixtape legend. 1034 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, the only the only other person, 1035 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: and this is to me, in New York history to 1036 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 1: have pretty much a hit before it was out. And 1037 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: the first person that I ever looked at on that 1038 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: level was Nas. I had a Nas tape floating through 1039 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: my project before it came out, you know what I'm saying. 1040 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: It was sort of the same with Big. Back then 1041 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,239 Speaker 1: you would get teams and it was like so I 1042 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: was already kind of like onto him, and he was 1043 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,479 Speaker 1: already big, you know what I mean on that level, 1044 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,800 Speaker 1: And then it was no brainer once Party in Bullshit 1045 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 1: came out because he was circulated. He has party and 1046 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: bullshit out there. Yeah, I think Dreams was out to Dreams. No, no, no, 1047 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: that was a mixtape that was circular, not playing well, 1048 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 1: that was a mixafe free style. But that's what I'm saying. 1049 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: It was always so heavy on the mixtapes. It wasn't records, 1050 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 1: it wasn't rough it like that was just he was 1051 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: already a legend in the street. Yeah, yeah, he was 1052 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: because because at that time, that's when puff Puff came 1053 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,480 Speaker 1: with that market and Puffs marking and Jean's back then 1054 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: when he started promoting Craig Macking and he had Yeah. Yeah, 1055 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: but so big Daddy Kane says, I'm bringing out my homeboy. Well, 1056 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: he don't say anything because Kane is kneplain to nobody. 1057 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,160 Speaker 1: What was just you there? And next thing I heard 1058 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: was I knew they was there, but I didn't know 1059 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 1: he was going to have them rock Scooper scrap there. 1060 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: School because School wrapped from the beginning, No, he wrapped, Yeah, School, 1061 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: check it, check it bang bag. Yeah, because School was 1062 00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: on a on a tour with us as well. So 1063 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: you see tupop a big both from you. Not this 1064 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: moment is legendary. No, I would know even of course, 1065 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: how do you know that, you know, because I see 1066 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,840 Speaker 1: souper together. You know I'm gonna be real with you. 1067 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 1: The superstar to me was Kane. I was just so 1068 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: excited that I wrote to the Limo with Kane. I'm 1069 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: chilling out with Kane. I get to go over Kane's 1070 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: house and after can fingerpop Mount Donna. Let's be clear, 1071 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: Man Donna, I wasn't Man Donna, bro I wasn't here. 1072 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know if he did. 1073 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: I always that because he'd be like, I ain't do 1074 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: nothing like finger pop. He said maybe, he said only 1075 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: the other week. He never said he smashed though he 1076 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: said that I was. I was just I was the 1077 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: limo with Cane. Let's be clear. The Limo was like 1078 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: a fandom back then. Yeah, like if you up out 1079 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 1: the limo, you we didn't even jump out the limit. 1080 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: Because this is the first time I ever went into 1081 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: a stadium like that. The ship lifted off. Yeah, I 1082 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 1: felt like I was playing basketball, like I was about 1083 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 1: to go out on the court. Like you had headphones 1084 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: when you walk into the game. Yeah, did you walk up? 1085 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: Did you walk up a ramp? You walk up? I'm 1086 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: starting and I was like look and to see thirty 1087 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: like that many people and at this time, and at 1088 00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: this time, we didn't have social media, so you was 1089 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,880 Speaker 1: lucky if somebody had a disposable camera or if a 1090 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 1: magazine happened to take a picture or other than that, 1091 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: you didn't know. But for me, there was people from 1092 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: my projects there. So the next morning and it was 1093 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: like he was at the guarding because nobody would have 1094 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 1: believed me if I told him I was in school 1095 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: before I had a reggae deal, Like I had a 1096 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: reggae deal, but I'm in school telling like yeah, working 1097 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: on the album. Yeah, we know, you know what I mean, 1098 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Like I was a straight liar. It wasn't until my 1099 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,680 Speaker 1: song came out. It was like it wasn't lying all 1100 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,440 Speaker 1: this time because it was just so far fetched for 1101 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: someone to have a record deal. Then you had to 1102 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: know somebody, to know somebody, to know somebody, you know. 1103 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how the game was so controlled, you 1104 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's why these these guys, these guys, 1105 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: these young guys, they they they're so fortunate that you know, 1106 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: they can really yeah, one action one night. It wasn't 1107 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,760 Speaker 1: like that far us. You had the big dudes and 1108 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: hold on, I still got more. How did you mean Kane? 1109 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: How did that collection happen? I met Kane? I was 1110 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: I think it was the pladium. Um, I was running 1111 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 1: around with Woot Sang because Mare. They came out before 1112 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: me because I had to go through the court system 1113 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 1: with my record deal because you because I was a minor, 1114 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: so being that the things happened with Gary Coleman and 1115 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: all of them, you had to go to Supreme Court 1116 01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: and stand in front of a judge when he gets 1117 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: as you commission and he signs you into these contracts 1118 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: and yeah, full circle. The judge sentence me on one 1119 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: of my criminal cases as well in the same Supreme Yeah. 1120 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,920 Speaker 1: So can you imagine that conversation that he had with me? 1121 01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: You know that that was that was touching. It makes 1122 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 1: you say to him, I'm really fucking this up right? Um? 1123 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, and they and they had um yeah. Yeah. 1124 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm on the stage with him and I'm just and 1125 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 1: he tells his manager, Yo, he wants to meet O. D. 1126 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: B and the girl on stage. That's what he tells 1127 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: his his his manager. His manager girl comes back and says, well, okay, 1128 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the OLDB guys here, but that's not a chick, that's 1129 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 1: a dude. He's name is Shot and that was it. 1130 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,000 Speaker 1: And at that point he was like, you'll give me 1131 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: your number, right, like like, yo, you're rapped, and I'm 1132 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: like yeah. He was like I'm saying if you did rap, 1133 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: like you should wrap right. I'm like, wholl He's like, yo, 1134 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: taking a number, and then you know, at that time, 1135 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 1: I was like the golden goose egg, We're through the business. 1136 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 1: You missed a lot of opportunities like that. You and 1137 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,960 Speaker 1: jay z on. That's what you're saying. Well, I need 1138 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,120 Speaker 1: to say he put anybody on. What I'm saying this 1139 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: is that when he um bring me to the you're 1140 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: good but good thing I ain't drunk. That would have 1141 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: worked if I wasn't drunk, because he didn't say that, 1142 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know why. I'm thinking, did you say that? 1143 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Say that this sounds real good? Keep drinking? Good about answered? Right? 1144 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 1: That's a guy, right, um damn the movies we at 1145 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: he brought brought stage. Okay, so no, he he asked 1146 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: for you and the dB. I'll go back whatever. I'll 1147 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: try to get the contact with him. You know, dudes, 1148 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: just the Elders Show we're handling it, we'll make the 1149 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,680 Speaker 1: contact whatever. A lot of other opportunities like that. I 1150 01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: read in jay z book he wanted me on the song. 1151 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: I never he never called me, but he said he did, 1152 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 1: but I don't know back to that. So then, um, 1153 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 1: one day I'm playing basketball my projects in the middle 1154 01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: of my projects because I thought I was going to 1155 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the NBA. That's what I thought I was. Now I'm 1156 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: trashed now yeah, yeah, I thought I was gonna be 1157 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: a basketball player. And they're telling me they're going Boom 1158 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: because that's my nickname, Boom, right, that's my My family 1159 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: calls me Boom. So like boom running through projects now magic, 1160 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: it's my projects is a long waterway to the basketball yo. 1161 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: And they're running Big Daddy caters on bullshe I'm like 1162 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: what Big Daddy And I'm like what, And now I'm 1163 01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: running back. So I get to him. He like this out. 1164 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, say, like what you're doing. I'm like none. 1165 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 1: He's like, yo, you want to roll with me. I'm 1166 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: like yeah. He's like, YO, tell your mother that you're 1167 01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 1: gonna roll me. I run upstairs. I lived on the 1168 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,360 Speaker 1: A four elevator broad because back then, your key is 1169 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,600 Speaker 1: on your chain. Yeah, that's my kid, can clip my mama. 1170 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: Not home? Fuck it, I'm out, jumped in and called 1171 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: boom going. I was in Virginia somewhere. Anybody thought I 1172 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 1: was missing. But I'm chilling. I'm chilling grown women like 1173 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Kane is the dude. Grown women is feeding me French fries. 1174 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: And he was always calling me your son, feed my son, 1175 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: no things like I was. Know what I'm saying, like, hey, 1176 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 1: it's cool, it was cool to be me. You know 1177 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying. So did I come back? Right? 1178 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: I come back and he lets me out front of pods. 1179 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm hyping. I got me getting money, brought me my 1180 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: first pier silk box. Oh this prince darkness I'm talking 1181 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: about right now, I'm hyped. What I do. I run 1182 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,960 Speaker 1: the Rizard crib, run not with the silk boxes. Everything 1183 01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:03,600 Speaker 1: still im He's a kid, so he's gonna do. And 1184 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: they're looking at me like just trying to make you 1185 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: a sell out something to this this was he's trying 1186 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,880 Speaker 1: to make you smooth and boxed up that she don't win. 1187 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 1: No smooth boxes and you can walk a shower. And 1188 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,040 Speaker 1: now I'm confused, like I liked the boxes. I want 1189 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 1: to wear the boxes. They feel smooth. I'm wearing these ships, 1190 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but I was height 1191 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: what you couldn't sell me. I might have worn for 1192 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: a few days because they were so smooth. It was 1193 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,479 Speaker 1: different than the bbs. You can jump in the shower 1194 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and take him out and just go and throw them more. 1195 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 1: He drive you have b I didn't have them, but 1196 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: I used to stealing for my cousins, so they used 1197 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: to have them, and I used to rock him. That's 1198 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,000 Speaker 1: how I got the first time my cousin smacked me 1199 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: with a big fish. I wore was addas out his 1200 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: shell tools. I was probably a side four and his 1201 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,040 Speaker 1: ships like a nine. And I'm in the project taking 1202 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: ships like this. Crazy. You can call my sneakers on. 1203 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,360 Speaker 1: That was a death sentence in the eighties, random top. 1204 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 1: You know what, they thought? He was a girl. You 1205 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 1: know the kid in the Golden Child movie with a girl. 1206 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,360 Speaker 1: It was a girl. I never knew it. All right, 1207 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna move on with QuickTime. It's not so quick. 1208 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: It's not so quick, alright, b Street or crush grow 1209 01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Oh okay, you know why for me. It was just 1210 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing of like run DMC and and and 1211 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: uh Curtis blow and Russell. It just showed that time 1212 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: and then grind I felt like, yeah, I could be 1213 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: I could be that too. One day, okay, the next 1214 01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: of the next, next, well now, I mean I'm New York, 1215 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 1: next everything New York. But NIXT something even though sometimes 1216 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to be a knicker vodka hard sometimes oh 1217 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,120 Speaker 1: saw here the NIXT fan. But I did big up 1218 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: to my man. But hey, I'll tell you one thing. 1219 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: We got one of the best merchandise in the world. 1220 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah I should don't drop Okay, the box or video 1221 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: music box, video music box, hand down a shot out 1222 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: we got We got a big because the box was 1223 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,200 Speaker 1: more like commercial. It's like kind of if you made 1224 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 1: it to the box, you kind of made it kind 1225 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: of because people were they were buying the slots in 1226 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: the box. You called it, Ralph, you had to I 1227 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 1: remember that time to like if you wasn't dope, he 1228 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,640 Speaker 1: wasn't getting played. Now they're gonna play your ship because 1229 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:41,400 Speaker 1: you might slipping onto the table. Biggie up, bigger, Mr 1230 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Man right there, take a shot for you. Well, I'm 1231 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:44,920 Speaker 1: gonna say you like this, I'll pick both of them. 1232 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 1: I picked both of them. Wanted you to pick both 1233 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:53,560 Speaker 1: of them because both of them, you know, but we 1234 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: need but but I love No. Yeah, we're coming back 1235 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: because you got you gotta drive a big Yeah. I 1236 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 1: got tattooed big. That's one of my favorite rappers. Man. Okay, 1237 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna get through a quick time and slim. Let's 1238 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 1: come back to big. Remember that, and then we go 1239 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 1: Scarface or ice Cube mm hmm. Both of them was instrumental. 1240 01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Damn it. Good ship myself. You can't pay for you can't. 1241 01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,559 Speaker 1: That's hard. That's my ma wanna cleansing myself right now. 1242 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,719 Speaker 1: By the way, you got the ultimate lantine on bracelet 1243 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: right there. Every everybody uncle got that same bracelet, and 1244 01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 1: every Spanish family they got that same bracelet. I'm telling 1245 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,840 Speaker 1: you that's that's that's an ultimate real Latino ship. Okay, 1246 01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 1: what did I say? All right, boom white man, Right, 1247 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,600 Speaker 1: I gotta take this first, right now, you gotta take it. 1248 01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: This is extra round of song. No, this is last 1249 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:21,080 Speaker 1: call for rel Kanye. I agree, premar just Blaze dreama 1250 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: podcast or radio podcast. Just keep coming up the late 1251 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 1: this no more Jay Z who nahs on jay Z. Well, 1252 01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this right, I'm gonna say I'm gonna 1253 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: say no, No, I'm gonna say this. It's yeah, you're 1254 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna do that anyway. But I'm saying this how I'm 1255 01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: gonna say it is both of them at different times. Yeah, 1256 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:03,240 Speaker 1: that sounds like yeah, because I'm listening to a certain 1257 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 1: vibe like nas Nas educates me like he makes me smart, 1258 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 1: like he makes me look for books. I'm like, I 1259 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know what that is, but 1260 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,200 Speaker 1: that's sound fly. I need to do some history. J 1261 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 1: just wakes me feel like, you know, I can take 1262 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 1: over the industry. Okay, all right, this is clearly the 1263 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 1: Dominican and public in Colombia because boltang, it's a wool 1264 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:41,080 Speaker 1: tang inside answer. Fourth disciple or true master m hmm, 1265 01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 1: fourth disciple true Damn, that's crazy. I gotta see both 1266 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: of them. We came to play, baby the game. We 1267 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,760 Speaker 1: came to please. I'm taking the babies. I don't give 1268 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 1: you gotta finish, gonna finish it, man, let's take to 1269 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:12,080 Speaker 1: come on. Damn, I'm gonna stick. I'm not gonna how 1270 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,280 Speaker 1: you get loose. No, I'm not gonna let my PEPs 1271 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,000 Speaker 1: because he already get a peep. I'm gonna stick with it. 1272 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with it. Okay, con Tho, No, I 1273 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 1: got it wrong. I'll tell you one thing. You ask 1274 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: some questions that I wasn't expecting. This whole little game 1275 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 1: that's this is fly Yeah yeah, come on bro, come 1276 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 1: on bro, we we were here with you, baby. Okay, 1277 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,280 Speaker 1: this is one I don't know where you're gonna go with. 1278 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:42,800 Speaker 1: And I'm very curious. Red Man or a Zy Damn bro, 1279 01:11:43,880 --> 01:12:07,200 Speaker 1: it's like easy, that was real, I don't know, or 1280 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:12,720 Speaker 1: Minister Society. You gotta remember you from. So I made 1281 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: the Jews. I mean I like mentes, you know what 1282 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that wasn't really my culture. It was 1283 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 1: more of an educational thing for me, But for Jews. 1284 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 1: I felt like when I went to Bow Dagger and 1285 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 1: he pop Poppy, I felt like that could have been me. Yeah, 1286 01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm into that. Just make some monch with you to that, 1287 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:44,799 Speaker 1: all right? Jersey Drive or Who's the Man? Jersey's Drive? Definitely, 1288 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't who was the man? Wasn't that wasn't that like, 1289 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:53,200 Speaker 1: wasn't Lover and Doctor wasn't it cops or something? They 1290 01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 1: were like cool cops though they was trying to make cops. 1291 01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 1: I mean it was funny. It was funny, all right, cool, 1292 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: all right, this I really need to notice one. Yeah, 1293 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,640 Speaker 1: this is my Colombian and I don't know why I 1294 01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,160 Speaker 1: got Colombians Dominicans making this list. This is they can 1295 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 1: be born at any time. They can be born at 1296 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 1: any time any time they No, no, I'm just saying. 1297 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,719 Speaker 1: I said that. I said Dominican and Columbia is making 1298 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: the quick time of slab. They could be born at 1299 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:35,600 Speaker 1: any point. A pay them off. I really need an 1300 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: honist answer because we come from the truth school, but 1301 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: we liked it. One of them. We both come on 1302 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:54,320 Speaker 1: and be hammer over their lives. Yeah, hammer first handed, 1303 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 1: ain't here humble for bumy ham hu Hamdle was first 1304 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:12,680 Speaker 1: and hammers and people that he's everybody with him. I 1305 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,240 Speaker 1: ain't doing it with other nig Yeah, definitely, I ain't 1306 01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: gonna find I did it before you. You ain't never 1307 01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: do it. Do it. Everybody did it. Can't touch all 1308 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,640 Speaker 1: that you did that still do it? Let me right 1309 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,599 Speaker 1: Hammer from Oatland too. Yeah, when I heard it matter 1310 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,000 Speaker 1: if she searched. We need to get we need. I'm 1311 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 1: so sorry. Really be not conscious of everything that goes 1312 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:50,679 Speaker 1: on here, but not really Okay. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty 1313 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: or respect mm hmm. Definitely respect because with respect you're 1314 01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: getting loyalty Now it don't now it matters why they 1315 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: respect you, and it's a different thing. How will you respected? 1316 01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,360 Speaker 1: But loyalty I think changes with conditions, you know what 1317 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean. Respect will always be somebody earning your respect. 1318 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,480 Speaker 1: You can't really funk that up unless you do some disrespect. 1319 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,920 Speaker 1: So I go with respect, Okay, like I go over 1320 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: fair too. I go for fear over love. I don't 1321 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 1: fear you go for fear over love, yea rather somebody? Yeah, 1322 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: because people you love, like you ever noticed, like your 1323 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 1: family right there, are steal from you because you love them. 1324 01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,559 Speaker 1: But you won't try that ship with somebody that don't 1325 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,240 Speaker 1: love them. So don't use the love card on me. 1326 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 1: People more than love. I know, I don't fear anybody. 1327 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that if somebody fears me rather 1328 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 1: than love me, you cross somebody you love before you 1329 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: cross somebody you fear. No hear you. But I'm saying 1330 01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:48,920 Speaker 1: the person that fears you is unpredictable because they're scared. 1331 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: Both are unpredictable. Yeah, respect, you know what I mean. 1332 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 1: I've had the most people who did the hurt fool 1333 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,040 Speaker 1: shipped to me was people I loved and loved me. 1334 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 1: Did you hear the baby just said? Baby said, you 1335 01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,519 Speaker 1: gotta watch envy when you watch hate, because envyous here yea, 1336 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:11,400 Speaker 1: and hate what you meant? All that ship man that 1337 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:17,920 Speaker 1: fear hey then away from here and maybe trying to 1338 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 1: get deep man, come on, got that ship. Let me 1339 01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 1: take my shot. That guy we're taking He was like, 1340 01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: you want to just take it? And giggles little get 1341 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: drunk so in too deep and you did original deep 1342 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 1: and too deep. What is this story they're telling you 1343 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: this story about? Because from Marvi's this story is actually 1344 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 1: about Queen's dudes who went out of time. That's why 1345 01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: they kept using the god And that was like yeah, 1346 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,640 Speaker 1: But then they said it was about some people in 1347 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: Ohio with Cincinnati and things like that. I don't know 1348 01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 1: because I really wasn't you know at that time, I 1349 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: ain't here what it was about. It was like, what's 1350 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 1: these lines and the checks there? All right, let's go. 1351 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 1: But it was a fun set man, it was a 1352 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,479 Speaker 1: fun set um. It was it was big because it 1353 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,160 Speaker 1: was three people from our neighborhood. Actually, in that same movie, 1354 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: you had me Hassan who played we Bay. You had 1355 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Candle Grills he was also he was all from the 1356 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,479 Speaker 1: same neighborhood. So it was a big thing to have 1357 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:23,759 Speaker 1: three of us from the same neighborhood in one movie, 1358 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,839 Speaker 1: alongside L. L. Coo J and Omar Epps and Sticky 1359 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Fingers Into being the trail is rapping with L. L. 1360 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:34,519 Speaker 1: Sticky and Omar Epps because Olmar is nice too, and 1361 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 1: we was this is that's just times you can't people 1362 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 1: can't pay for that. So what was you mad when 1363 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Cary said it was in too Deep like mccarth, No, 1364 01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 1: I didn't. I said, what the hell is just talking about? 1365 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:49,639 Speaker 1: That's not the movie. He wasn't even That's what I thought. 1366 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 1: But then I was saying, well, maybe he's in too 1367 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,760 Speaker 1: deep in something else than I don't know, but I 1368 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 1: know it wasn't the movie. What he was in too 1369 01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:01,600 Speaker 1: d I don't know, wasn't the movie. I mean, you 1370 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 1: know what, that's what Kanye said that sober into. I'm 1371 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,600 Speaker 1: trying to give him an out bro, I mean what 1372 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,760 Speaker 1: we don't know what he was meaning? Into deep? He 1373 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 1: could have been into deep, too deep. You can't know 1374 01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: what Just be clear. We all wrapped. Come on, come 1375 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: on we rappers and DJ's here when you say I'm 1376 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 1: in too deep like my co fife, he might have 1377 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: met something else though he like he said he might have. 1378 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 1: It wasn't the movie because you know that we can 1379 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 1: scratch the movie out because what was he? What was 1380 01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,880 Speaker 1: he deep? Unless he thought he wasn't unless he thought 1381 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 1: but mcaf but he thought, yeah, yeah, so that's why 1382 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 1: he used that's that's the happen to be that right ship? Right? No, 1383 01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It might could be because 1384 01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,640 Speaker 1: if you don't know somebody else, somebody don't know I 1385 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 1: don't know if it's a writer or whoever it is, 1386 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 1: but whoever, if don't you know that line and you 1387 01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: saw the movie, you didn't wait the movie, you didn't 1388 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: if you don has heard about it, wrote that line, 1389 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,880 Speaker 1: you didn't want the movie. Yeah, he could have googled 1390 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,480 Speaker 1: that because I ain't gonna When I heard, I was like, indeed, 1391 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 1: and I said it too, and I was like, who 1392 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 1: was he? Even? Or it might have been a spin. 1393 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,240 Speaker 1: Maybe he's just that creative said, oh, I'm gonna say 1394 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: mcco fight for fuck him up to make him say, 1395 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 1: you say, wait a minute, he's not mccow fighter. Maybe 1396 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 1: he said, oh my drink chats. We'll talk about this 1397 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,360 Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do. I'm 1398 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. Shot. He tried to clean it up. 1399 01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,720 Speaker 1: He tried to clean it up. In the soundtrack for 1400 01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: that movie. I was in the soundtrack with with the 1401 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 1: Locks with the Nuts Locks. You gotta come on, let's 1402 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: take some more. Mom wanna the juel you I'm sorry, 1403 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,839 Speaker 1: I think he speaks. He speak a whole bunch of English. 1404 01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 1: I said, June, when you get did just speak smash? 1405 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: He said, Nori speaks you guys, what are you trying 1406 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: to because he got freckles man, dispect that's got to 1407 01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,400 Speaker 1: discuss respectful. That's guys like him. Those are the brothers. 1408 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 1: You might be fucking family. You never know. So I look, shot, 1409 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 1: we've been through it all. What is the one thing 1410 01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 1: that you regret in this in this life or what 1411 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,720 Speaker 1: was the one thing you finished wish you finished either 1412 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,920 Speaker 1: or you could um the one thing that I really 1413 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: wish I could have changed. Is that I wish I 1414 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 1: would have grew up in time to like get my 1415 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 1: mom the hell she needs, and I could have saved 1416 01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 1: my mom's life. But I didn't know to just take 1417 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,880 Speaker 1: a move away. I was just that just that I 1418 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 1: make sure I should have just forced in the woods 1419 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 1: and the force to get better. Like I was just 1420 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,519 Speaker 1: thinking like, oh, she's gonna do it anyway, so the 1421 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,880 Speaker 1: moms will stay home. That's why I never left, because 1422 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,720 Speaker 1: I always feed like, damn I moved. We never left, 1423 01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:03,880 Speaker 1: you start, because I felt like if I took my mom, 1424 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,599 Speaker 1: Let's say I moved to Queens, right, and I'm living 1425 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,680 Speaker 1: out there now my mom's has an addiction, so now 1426 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 1: she's running around Queens, and now it becomes the talk 1427 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,599 Speaker 1: Queens that my mother's like that at least at home. 1428 01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,519 Speaker 1: Heybody knew that ship before I was, even it's not 1429 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,160 Speaker 1: a big deal. So I stayed where I was comfortable 1430 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,840 Speaker 1: at for all those reasons. But that's the same thing 1431 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,240 Speaker 1: that kept her and myself in that pit. So I 1432 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,000 Speaker 1: was like, if I could change anything, I wish I 1433 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 1: was a little more mature in my decision making and 1434 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,400 Speaker 1: my thinking because I would have just removed myself from 1435 01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:36,439 Speaker 1: the environment. See all along, I'm staying in the rat race. 1436 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm get involved in this stupid shot and binging and 1437 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 1: shooting all this dumb ship when all I had to 1438 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,680 Speaker 1: do the simple thing to do is you know what 1439 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm just But you were a kid man, You were 1440 01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:47,400 Speaker 1: a kid, and you know what I'm saying, and came 1441 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 1: into the industry young. So it kind of stunts your broke. 1442 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,439 Speaker 1: But but but it was the best thing that happened 1443 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,240 Speaker 1: to me. I wouldn't trade it. I wouldn't trade it 1444 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 1: because I know so much. It was pain that came 1445 01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 1: with it, but the things that I learned from this priceless. 1446 01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:05,240 Speaker 1: All Right, you gonna do another shot with you getting 1447 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: We're finishing this. Mama wanna bottle, and I'm finishing face 1448 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 1: because you know what shop You don't know if you 1449 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 1: know our show is about giving flowers. Yeah, I got 1450 01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,400 Speaker 1: twelve gold ones. Yeah you know what this might be? 1451 01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 1: You know you heard it and this might be it. No, 1452 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be an n f T. We're gonna do sing. 1453 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,760 Speaker 1: You can create that f T for yourself. We're gonna 1454 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,599 Speaker 1: make n f T those too, well, can y'all sign 1455 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: it for me. It's already sign with the drink champs 1456 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: were short chasing you at all. You're one of them. 1457 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,640 Speaker 1: We just started this, so you're I think he's you're 1458 01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the fourth person. Yea for the coach. That's that's a coach. 1459 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,560 Speaker 1: That's for the coach. That's for So again, I just 1460 01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 1: wanted to tell you to your face, man um, how 1461 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,160 Speaker 1: much we appreciate your contribution to hip hop. That's what 1462 01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 1: our show was about. Our show was about giving even 1463 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:07,600 Speaker 1: flowers while they're alive. We could have interviewed anybody, but 1464 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,400 Speaker 1: we want to interview all legends. We want to end 1465 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:17,160 Speaker 1: a few people who have been seasoned like us that's 1466 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 1: been around. And when I did speak to you and 1467 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:26,920 Speaker 1: I said, shot, my only problem is you're hitting me 1468 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,280 Speaker 1: now that you thought that I said something wrong, But 1469 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 1: I said, I did three hundred shows when I said 1470 01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,240 Speaker 1: something beautiful about you, and you hit me and you 1471 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,160 Speaker 1: school me real quickly said, but I was in jail. 1472 01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know. I've never seen this ship first. I 1473 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 1: just telling me, like, go on online, it's on the 1474 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: end of that us. So what I'm trying to tell 1475 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,000 Speaker 1: you is that's what our show was about. Our show 1476 01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: was has been, it will continue, and we'll always be 1477 01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,799 Speaker 1: about picking up our legends. There's plenty of radio stations 1478 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: that people can go to when they got something going 1479 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,519 Speaker 1: over it, but we want to interview the people that's 1480 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:11,560 Speaker 1: put in that work that got them ten years in 1481 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,559 Speaker 1: four than ten years in. And I'm tired of people 1482 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: saying that washed up or they're over the hill. That's 1483 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 1: no fucking word like that in any other genre and 1484 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 1: any other music. So that's the reason why we started 1485 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,639 Speaker 1: drink Chat. It was because we want to give people 1486 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 1: their belts back, you know how like Rick Flair run 1487 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:38,040 Speaker 1: his belt then you know, Rick Flair might that belt 1488 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:43,599 Speaker 1: is yours forever. Yeah, that's peace, that's peace. Um yeah, yeah, 1489 01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. G I appreciate it, but um yeah, 1490 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 1: like you know, and that's the same way I felt. 1491 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,800 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, if you go back, it 1492 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 1: was funny too, right, just the way the world works. 1493 01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: They was just asking me, what's what's like? What was 1494 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 1: on your top? I'm like the war report and didn't 1495 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 1: not as soon as this ship came out of my mother. 1496 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,640 Speaker 1: But it's the truth. I can't like, you know what 1497 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:12,439 Speaker 1: I mean under no, under no circumstances would what y'all 1498 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 1: did for my life. See it's a difference because I 1499 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 1: grew up in the era. But to be a kid 1500 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: a fan, See I was a kid a fan too 1501 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 1: at the same time being in this ship office in Champagne. 1502 01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:25,880 Speaker 1: But I feel like I just need to get you 1503 01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: funked up alone. He's speaking. No, he's Spanish, he said 1504 01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:40,599 Speaker 1: nothing yet you guys like aisha local. No, no Spanish. 1505 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:47,120 Speaker 1: We got to get what are you talking about? Want 1506 01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: let's do it, June, you're working with you. I'm good 1507 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, ship, y'all don't know what just happened 1508 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,120 Speaker 1: my mind just my computer just cool. Yeah, man, No, 1509 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 1: but it's it's peace. Man. I'm glad. We're glad we 1510 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: could we could see here as as grown ups and 1511 01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: and and work through something, because that's a lot of 1512 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,479 Speaker 1: the problems with people today. They don't just take the 1513 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,200 Speaker 1: time to work it out and say, hey, yo, bro, 1514 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,640 Speaker 1: just how this made me feel and just and and 1515 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,080 Speaker 1: a lot of time it's like, yo, I didn't even 1516 01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 1: make me to make you feel that way. And it's 1517 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:15,920 Speaker 1: like okay, all right now speech and now we have 1518 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,200 Speaker 1: an understanding. You know what I mean, but it can 1519 01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 1: go another way too, that people don't take the time 1520 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,040 Speaker 1: to do things the right way. And I commend y'all 1521 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,280 Speaker 1: for doing things the right way and you know, correcting 1522 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,040 Speaker 1: whatever mistake, whatever we want to call it, it's it's 1523 01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 1: water under the bridge, you know what I'm saying. And 1524 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: that's why I thank y'all for getting on my podcast 1525 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 1: and just making it, making it smooth and making anything right. 1526 01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:45,840 Speaker 1: We fun before, We with you now, and we're gonna 1527 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:50,040 Speaker 1: fuk with you after. And um, you know that's just 1528 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 1: what we are. Man. You know, come on, got that. 1529 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like, it's one more this is it? 1530 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 1: Because he wants you to do. I gotta do because yeah, 1531 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: we got got the rugged, the rugged road to recovery. 1532 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: That let's talk Let's let's talk about the podcast. Yea, 1533 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 1: let's at the podgrass is you know, dedicating the memory 1534 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: of my mother, Um, and I just wanted to create 1535 01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:21,639 Speaker 1: a platform. Oh my mother's name, Marilyn Franklin. You know, um, okay, 1536 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,320 Speaker 1: think you sir, just because most of the sounds people 1537 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:27,880 Speaker 1: just don't have no way to go to talk to 1538 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:29,920 Speaker 1: when they in those breaking moments, or they just want 1539 01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,760 Speaker 1: people to listen to them. So it's like, yo, you 1540 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 1: know what would be dope. We the community hip hop, 1541 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 1: We got a bunch of things where rappers come up. 1542 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,400 Speaker 1: You even got gang boundings. But a part of our 1543 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: community is the people that struggle with drug addiction and 1544 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: and hustling drugs and things like that that made terrible mistakes. 1545 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 1: That's trying to correct their errors, a place for them 1546 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,519 Speaker 1: to come get their strength and event as well as 1547 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 1: celebrities that's in the same thing, dealing with the same 1548 01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 1: issues and just just a just a smooth spot just 1549 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: to have comversation, you know what I mean, And you 1550 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,880 Speaker 1: take what you take from it, leaving what else back 1551 01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,640 Speaker 1: on the table, you know what I mean. You got 1552 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: audio distribution yet, Um, I just did it through on 1553 01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:13,360 Speaker 1: the line. Like me, I just turned to a vigorous 1554 01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:15,720 Speaker 1: Internet and just Google everything. So I did it through. 1555 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,760 Speaker 1: Um one of those asks. Some Spotify the same way. 1556 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,880 Speaker 1: You pretty much do it through. Course. Yeah, something's one 1557 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,400 Speaker 1: of those, like you know, gets at that level right now. 1558 01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: But you know I'm listening, bro, I'm here. I want 1559 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,400 Speaker 1: to work movies, music, podcast whatever. You know what I mean? 1560 01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 1: You back out here. I'm so I'm gonna use the 1561 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:40,680 Speaker 1: bathroom now. Yeah, hell yeah, yeah, I'll say I'll say 1562 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:48,479 Speaker 1: drinks is distribution for what it record? Just wait, wait, wait? 1563 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:50,880 Speaker 1: Can the car be in my name? You listen, you 1564 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:58,840 Speaker 1: already signed that. I go to the bathroom looking fifteen 1565 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,040 Speaker 1: times the wood. You know what happen if you would 1566 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 1: have been on that bus coming down from Clinton and 1567 01:29:06,600 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna go down your leg exactly? All right? So 1568 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:22,639 Speaker 1: I just want to take a shot with you again. 1569 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, want to do something. Let's talk about 1570 01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,599 Speaker 1: double shot. Let's do something alright, alright, double shot? All right, 1571 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,400 Speaker 1: So let me ask you, shot, what's what's your most 1572 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,840 Speaker 1: favorite part of the game. Is it performing the record 1573 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: or making the record? Um? Oh yeah, well you can't 1574 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,400 Speaker 1: perform the record until you mean right, So, I mean 1575 01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 1: I love making it, but ain't nothing like that crowd man. Yeah, 1576 01:29:56,479 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: it's just just like like, yeah, you feel me in 1577 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:04,479 Speaker 1: that screen. Man, that's just like it's like dope, uh solo. Yeah, 1578 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,720 Speaker 1: So let me ask you now, we need the big 1579 01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:10,400 Speaker 1: ol stories. Okay, that's what I relaxed for a second. 1580 01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:15,160 Speaker 1: Coming at me like like I like it. I like it, 1581 01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 1: like I would like so me me and big relationship. 1582 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 1: It started, um he was on Columbia and I was 1583 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,040 Speaker 1: on Virsion and I used to go. When I was 1584 01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 1: a kid, the thing that I used to do was 1585 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 1: go hang out a record labels and radio station. I'll 1586 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: just be the kids showing up and they'd be like, 1587 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,080 Speaker 1: come sitt in my office, chill and my death shoining. 1588 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Did what I wanted to do everywhere, you know what 1589 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,960 Speaker 1: I mean. So I used to go up to Columbia 1590 01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:40,920 Speaker 1: and the used to be a female my name of 1591 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Taish Harris. You used to be there, so she used 1592 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: to let me come show the office and get on 1593 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,920 Speaker 1: the computer and just learn and listen and watch and 1594 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 1: how how the businesses ran. And L used to go 1595 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,519 Speaker 1: up there too, and so we man we got cool. 1596 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,960 Speaker 1: And then throughout the years he was he was just like, 1597 01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,360 Speaker 1: see back then you could have me meet a rapper 1598 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,160 Speaker 1: and he give you your number, and I actually keeping such. 1599 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,719 Speaker 1: See now it was the thing of we got exchange 1600 01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,439 Speaker 1: number twenty times before we actually called each other. But 1601 01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 1: back then it was like a B B B BO, 1602 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,080 Speaker 1: what's up? And then call you back on the pay phone, 1603 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 1: what's up. And then when I started to go to 1604 01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 1: Hall arm more because of my drugging drugging choice, I 1605 01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,760 Speaker 1: started to be up there, and then I started to 1606 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,719 Speaker 1: hang around three nine Lenings. You know, all that around 1607 01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,360 Speaker 1: that was sparked parts of towns and that was I 1608 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I don't know about now, but back 1609 01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 1: then it was. Back then it was. And you know, 1610 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,320 Speaker 1: I used to go up there and get my ship 1611 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: and it was there cam out of liquor store right 1612 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,559 Speaker 1: there too at the time. So I used to hang 1613 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: out over there, and you know, and then when I 1614 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,960 Speaker 1: got my third deal through a woot Sang Records, and 1615 01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:43,719 Speaker 1: I was doing a man Shout album, I had full 1616 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:46,519 Speaker 1: control over the budget. So then I was like, I 1617 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 1: want to work with who I want to work with. 1618 01:31:48,960 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, I need you on this ship. 1619 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,640 Speaker 1: I got the budget. Here's Bread produced because he was 1620 01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,800 Speaker 1: making Beach produced a joint and get on the joint. 1621 01:31:56,160 --> 01:31:59,800 Speaker 1: And we was actually recording. We had did Furious Anger, 1622 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 1: and we was recording the second record, and I was 1623 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,280 Speaker 1: in Quash Studios. I'm there and I'm like, l he 1624 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: wasn't the type of person to bullshit you, so he 1625 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 1: told me a shot, I'm near eight o'clock. He might 1626 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: have been a thirty, but he wasn't showing up ten. 1627 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He kept his words. So 1628 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here at eleven o'clock. It's late now, you know, 1629 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact but so I'm like, yo, 1630 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,639 Speaker 1: where the fun is? So I'm calling around, calling around. 1631 01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,000 Speaker 1: And then I said, okay, let me call somebody from 1632 01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,680 Speaker 1: like like Lord Finesse in one of them. And then 1633 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 1: he was like, yo, yo, school, he just got shot. 1634 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:35,200 Speaker 1: He's he's I'm like what, just shut it up? And 1635 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,840 Speaker 1: and and and and I lost my friend that day, 1636 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:42,479 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so the day he 1637 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,080 Speaker 1: got supposed to go to recording, yeah, he was working 1638 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,760 Speaker 1: on music, and he was coming through the other song. 1639 01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,400 Speaker 1: And because but you have another I have a song 1640 01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:54,200 Speaker 1: with him, we could see what I would do was 1641 01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,320 Speaker 1: book the sessions out, so I knew I was working with. 1642 01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,240 Speaker 1: So we were booked a couple of days of the 1643 01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,920 Speaker 1: session to do the records. Withell, so we locked one 1644 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:03,160 Speaker 1: in and we had the rest of the week to 1645 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,400 Speaker 1: finish the other songs. So then the process of finishing 1646 01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 1: other songs, this tragedy just happened during that time, you 1647 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So when it happened, it's just 1648 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 1: like that ship sucked me up and you're waiting on him. Yeah, 1649 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 1: he knew something was wrong because you said because he 1650 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 1: was wrong late. I didn't know that happened, but I 1651 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,479 Speaker 1: just knew like something because he wouldn't play me like 1652 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,720 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He wasn't one of them 1653 01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 1: dudes to play me out like that's like to play me, 1654 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm coming and you don't come them call no show. 1655 01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,519 Speaker 1: It's like no, he wasn't like that, So that she 1656 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,000 Speaker 1: was hurtful, and that's why I got the tattoo. I said, no, 1657 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: no matter where I make it at yea, no, no, no, 1658 01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:41,439 Speaker 1: why would you think that? I mean, it looked more 1659 01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,800 Speaker 1: like a C than a B. I mean, but but 1660 01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 1: it's a it's a calligrapiel. Yeah. But when I was 1661 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 1: in prison it started things too because this is said 1662 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,960 Speaker 1: that I didn't know eight one sick crips, So they 1663 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 1: think I'm walking around with an eight one six and 1664 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the sea. I'm like, whoa, so I'm coming on the 1665 01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:01,200 Speaker 1: mess online. He said, you about that? Like about what 1666 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 1: he said to tax said, you like it, but like bigger, 1667 01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,280 Speaker 1: he like six creep I'm like, I don't know what 1668 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:12,439 Speaker 1: you're talking about, and that's not it's bigger, Jesus. But 1669 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: I see how it looked though it couldn't look like 1670 01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,160 Speaker 1: that condor look at yeah, it doesn't look a little bit. 1671 01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 1: I did not think it us a seat. So it's 1672 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:25,160 Speaker 1: not as you just said that Jesus, we focused on. 1673 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 1: That's why I got it, because I just said, you 1674 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 1: know what I want. I think it's one of the 1675 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 1: best ms ever, man, and there's not a lot of 1676 01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:37,000 Speaker 1: people that say they have a bigger health feature. And 1677 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 1: that ran with Tupac and big. I think that's the 1678 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 1: reason why some chimes your door gets shut? What door shut? 1679 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,559 Speaker 1: I think the door this industry. You know, you noticed 1680 01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,320 Speaker 1: inus she pick who they want, pick who they can control, 1681 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,439 Speaker 1: or or like, Okay, we can get away with it 1682 01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,160 Speaker 1: with this guy. This guy is a little bit now, 1683 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:00,000 Speaker 1: we don't want to keep keep him over there, don't 1684 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 1: invite him to this, you know what I mean, because 1685 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,040 Speaker 1: you stand on principles and morals, so it's like you 1686 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:05,960 Speaker 1: have to give up all that to be that, and 1687 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,200 Speaker 1: for me, it's just not worth it for me, you 1688 01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'd rather stand short and they 1689 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,200 Speaker 1: remember me for how it was than for me to 1690 01:35:12,280 --> 01:35:16,080 Speaker 1: be a sellout for a bag or or anything like that. 1691 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,479 Speaker 1: Give this nigga, bis he's a part of the table. Man, 1692 01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 1: he's really really sick taking the shot. No more shots, 1693 01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:27,120 Speaker 1: no more shots. It's done, it's done, it's done. You 1694 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,720 Speaker 1: wanted to let shot? No, there's no more, Juanna, we're 1695 01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,599 Speaker 1: not mixing. Shut we got we got, we got something. 1696 01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:34,720 Speaker 1: Get up something brown because we don't need drinking that. 1697 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 1: We got game thrown up to now SA right you 1698 01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:43,160 Speaker 1: want to do, say yeah, do say but dj come on, 1699 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:45,360 Speaker 1: let's get them drunk. We want them on the table. 1700 01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 1: Come on, Joe, get some do put them on the 1701 01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,439 Speaker 1: table between boys. This is what I would do to them. 1702 01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,719 Speaker 1: But you know, don't let you go down by yourself. 1703 01:35:54,800 --> 01:36:00,640 Speaker 1: You go, mr Mr Lea, you please wrap it up. 1704 01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:12,200 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah we know that, Joe. Then how folks 1705 01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:15,839 Speaker 1: with you? Joe? Yeah? And you got you play handball 1706 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 1: for real? Just keep it. No, you gotta go off, 1707 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you gotta have ye. But you gotta glove. I don't 1708 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,320 Speaker 1: like the way you trying to make that a joke. 1709 01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:24,599 Speaker 1: Now I'm saying you gotta go out play with the gloves. 1710 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:31,080 Speaker 1: You don't need no clove hen I'll play none of 1711 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,759 Speaker 1: that ship. Do I come outside of my gloves? Profession 1712 01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:38,120 Speaker 1: he's a professionals now, I mean, are you? Are you 1713 01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:40,320 Speaker 1: good to when you go to the floor and almost 1714 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:45,479 Speaker 1: straight the deel with I got not only I oh yeah, 1715 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 1: you professional? I'm not right. You know, I got a 1716 01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,360 Speaker 1: couple of things in my hand. Start burning, yo, shot. 1717 01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:59,000 Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something. We really appreciate you, 1718 01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:03,639 Speaker 1: not just and drink chance for the hip hop. Hold on, guys, 1719 01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:09,760 Speaker 1: hold on, guys. Let me just say I actually, when 1720 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 1: everything happened, I can't say I was disappointed. I guess 1721 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,160 Speaker 1: just say I was like, damn, because for me and you, 1722 01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,880 Speaker 1: we've always been great. Yeah, that's what I was saying. 1723 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,680 Speaker 1: I said, you've been the left frack before I said, Yo, 1724 01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,200 Speaker 1: that's what it was the same way with me. So 1725 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,599 Speaker 1: I'm on the obviously side like your world. That's for yourself, 1726 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:36,599 Speaker 1: but for future. Just you know, that's not what we're about. 1727 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 1: What we about is bigg en up our car. Yeah, 1728 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:44,880 Speaker 1: that's that's big ship we were about. It's uplifting our culture. 1729 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 1: And whether you're gonna do a podcast, you're gonna open 1730 01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:55,320 Speaker 1: a fresh fried joint. I'm gonna stand behind it because 1731 01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,400 Speaker 1: you know why, that's what the funk we do over 1732 01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:05,599 Speaker 1: here and drink jams. We're here to support, helping hand 1733 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:11,320 Speaker 1: to our legends space and I'm always stand for that space. 1734 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 1: So I want you to know that. And I forgave 1735 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,559 Speaker 1: everybody who made the blogs and whatever. It's only one 1736 01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:21,000 Speaker 1: thing I don't forget. It was a comedian thing. He's funny, 1737 01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,040 Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get it's funny though, 1738 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:33,439 Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean he did. He did, So 1739 01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to comedian Yo yo, comedian girl. He's 1740 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 1: coming for yo yo yo. Here coming for you, big 1741 01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 1: looking man now. But not for nothing, No, honestly, man. 1742 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean during the time, I ain't gonna lie. I 1743 01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:54,040 Speaker 1: had a fucking ball, had all because it was like 1744 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:56,439 Speaker 1: it was a learning experience, right, So the whole thing 1745 01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,000 Speaker 1: where it was the light because the young boys. You 1746 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 1: gotta blame them, right because when they say, oh, g 1747 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,320 Speaker 1: you gotta troll, I'm like, what's trolling? So they say 1748 01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,240 Speaker 1: you could take this and do this, and so I 1749 01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:16,240 Speaker 1: could do that, right. You were supposed to. You were 1750 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:20,479 Speaker 1: supposed to, But it wasn't personal. I was. I was 1751 01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,160 Speaker 1: just I felt like I had to defend. I had 1752 01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:26,680 Speaker 1: to defend, right, because all right, since we're here right here, 1753 01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,800 Speaker 1: when when the statements was said or whatever, right, and 1754 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,799 Speaker 1: it was said to groups, it was said to groups 1755 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:35,560 Speaker 1: along with my name, but the difference between me and 1756 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,640 Speaker 1: the other groups that was said, I'm by myself. So 1757 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,320 Speaker 1: it put that name and that that that that that 1758 01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,760 Speaker 1: that world flunky and non existent with my face. And 1759 01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:50,160 Speaker 1: not only that, my daughters in college. This is number one, Bro, 1760 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,160 Speaker 1: my kids gotta live with that ship. Oh that's your dad, 1761 01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,240 Speaker 1: that little you know what I'm saying. So I was like, no, 1762 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 1: I die before I do that ship. You know what 1763 01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That That's what I was defending. You know 1764 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it wasn't the first time that 1765 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:07,719 Speaker 1: someone said that. Um, when the clan was making a storm, 1766 01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:10,960 Speaker 1: there was groups that they didn't want. There, there was 1767 01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,400 Speaker 1: they didn't really want killer the other groups that was 1768 01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,960 Speaker 1: not you know, that was part of the Aphilias whatever 1769 01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:18,120 Speaker 1: you want to call us. They didn't want us. They 1770 01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,160 Speaker 1: just wanted to clan. And rightfully so, because it's your show, 1771 01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't hear a funk. You can't have whoever you want, 1772 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,680 Speaker 1: but judge my music, judged my career, and I got 1773 01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,400 Speaker 1: nothing to say. You could say it's the whack of ship. 1774 01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:32,040 Speaker 1: You could say I'm terrible on screen. Hey do what 1775 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,920 Speaker 1: you do, but a character flaw that is not me. 1776 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't allow that. And when I walked 1777 01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:40,640 Speaker 1: the prison yard, dudes that got natural life took a 1778 01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: pack of cigarettes for me pay me back on time, 1779 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:44,600 Speaker 1: not because they were scared of me, but as a 1780 01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 1: respect of how I carried myself. So that's what I 1781 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,400 Speaker 1: was defending. And that's why I was so adamant and 1782 01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:53,880 Speaker 1: so and so disappointed. Not angry because I'm going to 1783 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:56,599 Speaker 1: the penitentiary. I wasn't going to consentually, that was out 1784 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:59,320 Speaker 1: of it because I know, but there was a time 1785 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,880 Speaker 1: in my life where the result would have been the 1786 01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,800 Speaker 1: grave order penitentiary because I would have been smoking that 1787 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,200 Speaker 1: dust and I would have been thinking, these days, a 1788 01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 1: bigger plot. They're trying to kill me there, Loman. I 1789 01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,759 Speaker 1: would have been bugging the funk out and then cool. 1790 01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you wish, but you know what I'm saying, 1791 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 1: But that's what that was my mentality. What I'm saying. 1792 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,840 Speaker 1: But I'm glad that everything worked out the way it 1793 01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,400 Speaker 1: worked out, because it definitely was a blessing. You know 1794 01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not gonna be an idiot like 1795 01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, you're like, y'all ain't fucking so we brow 1796 01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 1: the motherfucking dirt off the back of this shining I am. 1797 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:42,200 Speaker 1: I did that before this. I'm gonna tell you some shing. No, 1798 01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:43,840 Speaker 1: this is what I'm saying some ship. And that's why 1799 01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:45,360 Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is this? Because I 1800 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,360 Speaker 1: remember it was not too long ago. Right after I 1801 01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:49,280 Speaker 1: did Glad, I got a message from one of the 1802 01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:52,080 Speaker 1: pages like yo, pull up and I said, word, here's 1803 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 1: my math. And then it was months I didn't hear nothing. 1804 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,439 Speaker 1: And then let no, I didn't. I didn't know why. 1805 01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,920 Speaker 1: I know, actually I thought you were saying on Joe buttons. OK, 1806 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,800 Speaker 1: let's get to that with what I was when I 1807 01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,280 Speaker 1: was as well, yeah, you know what I'm talking about 1808 01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,760 Speaker 1: it come on, because but this is what I thought. 1809 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,400 Speaker 1: So I don't know what. It wasn't facts, nothing was facts. 1810 01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: It was just what I thought, right, So I'm like, 1811 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 1: damn it reached out and said come on the show. 1812 01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:18,360 Speaker 1: Then I don't hear nothing. After I give my number. 1813 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,320 Speaker 1: Then months later it's like, I'm a flunking what the 1814 01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:24,640 Speaker 1: full ship? By the way, let's just be clear with you. 1815 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 1: You know, I know what happened. You said what you said, 1816 01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:29,120 Speaker 1: and you said what you said about sons of men. 1817 01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 1: That's fine, but my whole life calling myself a retard, 1818 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but it's the problem you call another 1819 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:41,120 Speaker 1: person problem. Even if both of y'all were toughting on 1820 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,720 Speaker 1: the bus and you called me, how are you gonna 1821 01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 1: call me? What the moment you call me? You know 1822 01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's what 1823 01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:54,960 Speaker 1: I do. I deal with empathy. That's my main thing. 1824 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:56,920 Speaker 1: I try to see things from not only my point 1825 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,800 Speaker 1: of view, from other people's point in view, and I 1826 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,400 Speaker 1: try to figure it out. And I figured out was Finn, 1827 01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:06,839 Speaker 1: don't listen to you, because it clearly heard you say resistance. 1828 01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,760 Speaker 1: He wouldn't have said. But if Finn was also on 1829 01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,479 Speaker 1: the back end story, he came in saying, killer army, 1830 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna kill the bees. So he was just rambling 1831 01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:18,200 Speaker 1: that he killer be He thought he knew, but he 1832 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,320 Speaker 1: didn't hear the words you said prior, and that was 1833 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 1: understanding understand how it happy. It happens all the time, 1834 01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:30,360 Speaker 1: but it happened. My thing was like the patsy, who's 1835 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:35,559 Speaker 1: responsible for letting this ship get released? Right there? Because 1836 01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:38,639 Speaker 1: I normally had to watch this ship And somebody said, 1837 01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:44,479 Speaker 1: who I wrote yourself that is washing draws with cor 1838 01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 1: Craft right now to take him another tendant. I'm gonna 1839 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,160 Speaker 1: tell you. I'm gonna tell you I'm sorry because we 1840 01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,680 Speaker 1: were together and we did have a meet and this 1841 01:43:55,840 --> 01:44:00,080 Speaker 1: saying that should have never because it wasn't intense? Is 1842 01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,600 Speaker 1: that the way what we was trying to say was, 1843 01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,000 Speaker 1: and if you really look at the whole for this, 1844 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:09,439 Speaker 1: there's no one could be bad. As we said, we 1845 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:12,840 Speaker 1: have this this dude random rand up one of the 1846 01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:18,400 Speaker 1: apologize to the whole such a sense, That's what we 1847 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:22,440 Speaker 1: was trying to say. Okay, right, so at that point everybody, 1848 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 1: and then where did it become? So we're separating Flunky 1849 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,640 Speaker 1: and a non existence? Right? And that's fine. You can 1850 01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 1: feel how you want to feel about about the Sons 1851 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,840 Speaker 1: of Man when you mentioned them, right, because I can't 1852 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,280 Speaker 1: defend no, I didn't mean that though. But what I'm 1853 01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,920 Speaker 1: saying is, let me just tell you this. I don't know. 1854 01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I still don't. Actually I think flunky 1855 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:46,800 Speaker 1: is a bad word. That's me. Yeah, but it's a 1856 01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,439 Speaker 1: bad word. You know why I killed me? Or when 1857 01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:50,360 Speaker 1: I was a little boy, this bad When I was 1858 01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,720 Speaker 1: a little kid, right, my grandmother used to tell me 1859 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,160 Speaker 1: in this world stories, I don't want you to be. 1860 01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,960 Speaker 1: You don't be nobody's fucking flunky. You don't be a thief, 1861 01:44:58,120 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: and you don't be a fucking liar. And also you 1862 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,760 Speaker 1: don't have not nobody a place to stay or something 1863 01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,680 Speaker 1: to eat. So those are the things that I look 1864 01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,160 Speaker 1: So when that was me, I'm like my grandmothers and 1865 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,600 Speaker 1: her grave, Boy, you better go in the projects and 1866 01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 1: fight and come back with a bus, grandma. My grandma 1867 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:19,600 Speaker 1: did not say, do not be a retard? What are 1868 01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,080 Speaker 1: you talking about? I was in the Big Lift, the 1869 01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:32,320 Speaker 1: ball Chass, Little Everlasting Sheldon, and we all called ourselves 1870 01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:38,960 Speaker 1: the retards, and you know what ship was hanging out 1871 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:43,200 Speaker 1: the junction boulevard and we all fought for the worm 1872 01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:50,479 Speaker 1: in the tekiller. Okay, okay, okay, So now so now 1873 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 1: now I know what I'm dealing with. You, I vent 1874 01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:03,360 Speaker 1: so words is semantic to me, Like I don't know. 1875 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 1: I don't digg into words. Now. It was five or 1876 01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,600 Speaker 1: sent words now identified with that. If I identified calling you, 1877 01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:14,840 Speaker 1: you're cool now I know I'm yeah. Um. If I'm 1878 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,400 Speaker 1: calling you, it's like one of the words that we 1879 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,559 Speaker 1: Sometimes we take words and we give it our own 1880 01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 1: meaning to it, and sometimes it means something different than 1881 01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,680 Speaker 1: it could be construed. It happens, brother, it happens. You 1882 01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 1: can say the whole hearted. When we had when we 1883 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:34,200 Speaker 1: spoke immediately when everything started transpiring, he told me, He's like, 1884 01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:38,040 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything back. I didn't know. He didn't understand. 1885 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, bro, that's that's He's like. He was 1886 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,640 Speaker 1: saying that too, because I learned something. You know what 1887 01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:44,360 Speaker 1: it is. I'm gonna tell you what it is. You 1888 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,000 Speaker 1: can't wait there for one. Let me just give this 1889 01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:50,519 Speaker 1: brother one. It was called Mega called me call Omega 1890 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:56,679 Speaker 1: said we know you love him? Omega bro that I said, 1891 01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 1: Omega what? Because I didn't I didn't know what he 1892 01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,479 Speaker 1: was talking about. That's the way I said that. He 1893 01:47:02,720 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 1: and he said the names. Let's say I just say 1894 01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,040 Speaker 1: that ship what he told them. It's the first time 1895 01:47:07,080 --> 01:47:10,680 Speaker 1: me and Comega raised our voice to each other he 1896 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:15,200 Speaker 1: said something I like, I like what the mega said, Chill, 1897 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm a senior to Clip and I didn't even know 1898 01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:22,000 Speaker 1: good team which brother said, Ship, Damn, you're good at 1899 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 1: what you do, right, Um. But uh we were talking 1900 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:31,160 Speaker 1: yeah because oh because he with the words right, because 1901 01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,280 Speaker 1: I spent I spent a good decent time with June 1902 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,679 Speaker 1: and he has that same problem. You know what I'm saying, 1903 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,360 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what about But I didn't realize said 1904 01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:43,680 Speaker 1: after me and you spoke that time for the first time, right, 1905 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,600 Speaker 1: and we was doing and I was explaining to you 1906 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,200 Speaker 1: where I seen, what where the force was or whatever, 1907 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,400 Speaker 1: and you was like, oh, Ship, I didn't see it 1908 01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:52,760 Speaker 1: that way. And then it was like okay. Then I 1909 01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:55,800 Speaker 1: wholehearted me like I told you once we had understanding 1910 01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 1: and you've seen where I came from. That's all I needed, 1911 01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:01,200 Speaker 1: even like I told you for when we spoke off camera, 1912 01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,800 Speaker 1: I said, we don't even got to visit this ship 1913 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,640 Speaker 1: on here because all I wanted as men to know 1914 01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:07,760 Speaker 1: where I stand as a man, and looking at your 1915 01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,400 Speaker 1: eyes of how I felt, that don't change how I 1916 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,679 Speaker 1: felt and how we can move forward, don't change because 1917 01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:16,800 Speaker 1: now like I know y'all more now because we went 1918 01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:24,479 Speaker 1: through something you got earlier. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, listen, 1919 01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:27,680 Speaker 1: this is your this is this is your platform. Just 1920 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:29,759 Speaker 1: in case you don't know it, let me say it again. 1921 01:48:30,200 --> 01:48:34,320 Speaker 1: Reiterated face the basement. You can promote and you got 1922 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,559 Speaker 1: pink toneenails tomorrow, I got the Rugger Road to Recovery 1923 01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:43,120 Speaker 1: Concepts dot com. You can stream. You can stream my 1924 01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,479 Speaker 1: music because now they said Jack Villers said that, y'all. 1925 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,479 Speaker 1: So that's the podcasts tell us, tell us about the 1926 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 1: bast Oh. The podcast is about about recovery, all types 1927 01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,680 Speaker 1: of recovery, substance abuse, recovery, career, because we are on 1928 01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,440 Speaker 1: the we're all just all all types of mental health recovery. 1929 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:06,120 Speaker 1: Just just if you broke your leg and they're putting 1930 01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:09,200 Speaker 1: you on pills, and that's what happens. They take away 1931 01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:10,760 Speaker 1: the pills the next thing you know, you're looking for 1932 01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:13,560 Speaker 1: the fix and now your stone code dope head, you 1933 01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,679 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it's just about just getting 1934 01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,519 Speaker 1: a community to share information and say hold on, you 1935 01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,200 Speaker 1: don't just what you can get a little help and 1936 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,280 Speaker 1: maybe if you are going you you you at the 1937 01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,760 Speaker 1: point in overturn let's slow it down a little, one 1938 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,800 Speaker 1: step at a time, just to a smooth level. And 1939 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,760 Speaker 1: that's it. And as long as I do that, I 1940 01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like my job is done on that. As far 1941 01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:37,639 Speaker 1: as the music, UM, I got iso Mestrical Concepts where 1942 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 1: I streamed my music. UM yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, 1943 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,519 Speaker 1: that's what I heard. You have to do, create your 1944 01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,920 Speaker 1: own website and tell me to come here and um 1945 01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,479 Speaker 1: stream your own music. So that's what I do, mestric Concepts, 1946 01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,280 Speaker 1: and um, I have a joint. I actually have a 1947 01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:57,240 Speaker 1: record out right now called Mercy Made Me. It's Rockness 1948 01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:59,920 Speaker 1: is on the hook and um I got about it 1949 01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,880 Speaker 1: all j Pain on it and I guess Mickey Facts 1950 01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:09,479 Speaker 1: is on it. Oh yeah, with Petty Cracking and Cracking Dutch. 1951 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:12,200 Speaker 1: I got a drink with him, shout out to me 1952 01:50:12,280 --> 01:50:14,479 Speaker 1: and goals got a record coming out to yo. What's up? 1953 01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 1: I would love for you to get on a joint cam. 1954 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:19,160 Speaker 1: Can we get the Come on man, I'm saying we 1955 01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,640 Speaker 1: can call it just like a song. We're gonna make it. 1956 01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna let's check it out with the shows. Funky 1957 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:29,799 Speaker 1: the song shot him and Norviega Flunky Color, the Funky 1958 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:38,720 Speaker 1: that's do what's ye takes us send me some ship. 1959 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:42,519 Speaker 1: Yesterday I was so mad because I was like, Damn, 1960 01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to write like I just gotta walk. No, 1961 01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna write you could I get my ship back? Shot? 1962 01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 1: You shut up? He was always take a shot with us. Alight, cool, 1963 01:50:56,160 --> 01:51:01,160 Speaker 1: chee the weeze, Papa Cheese. Who's going down? But it's mad. 1964 01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,000 Speaker 1: It's good, but it's steaks. So I don't want you 1965 01:51:03,040 --> 01:51:05,240 Speaker 1: don't want to smoke with nobody on versus let's keep 1966 01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:09,080 Speaker 1: it real versus. The only person I could do a 1967 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,719 Speaker 1: versus with his myself A k to rougets show Lord's 1968 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:18,400 Speaker 1: Generation versus man show and h he's regga this. Yeah, 1969 01:51:18,479 --> 01:51:20,040 Speaker 1: but you know what I meant, he would come out. 1970 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:25,240 Speaker 1: He would together though. Yeah, that's that's local vicious, but 1971 01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,800 Speaker 1: that's not the same thing that's not here. I would, 1972 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, the only lot a really really I 1973 01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:37,519 Speaker 1: think would it be fun? Probably because he's probably been around. 1974 01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,639 Speaker 1: It has to be somebody have an extensive an extensive record, 1975 01:51:41,680 --> 01:51:43,439 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I have albums I have featured, 1976 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 1: So it has to be somebody that has that type 1977 01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:49,360 Speaker 1: of body of work. Um, maybe somebody like Bleak. I mean, 1978 01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:53,200 Speaker 1: I could see that. I'm not calling out anybody I'm saying, 1979 01:51:53,240 --> 01:51:55,960 Speaker 1: you say, you know, because that would be that would 1980 01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,040 Speaker 1: be saying our old records. If I was calling him out, 1981 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,200 Speaker 1: I'd say, spits some new ship and we go right down. 1982 01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:05,600 Speaker 1: So that's something different going right now. But anybody in 1983 01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:07,880 Speaker 1: my category, I ain't jumping out the window. I ain't 1984 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:12,400 Speaker 1: saying I want to go out. You came, I said 1985 01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,599 Speaker 1: his name, I said, I feel like he's the only 1986 01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:19,280 Speaker 1: one that could probably get in the ring with me. 1987 01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,360 Speaker 1: You gotta think a k the rugged shall On and 1988 01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:30,000 Speaker 1: On ship is real Man shall Furious Single co Defendants, 1989 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,559 Speaker 1: Uh Show, Improved jay Z, Big Daddy came, Little Vicious 1990 01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,680 Speaker 1: if you want to party, and sure, it's a lot 1991 01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,439 Speaker 1: of records I've done seven oh two that got forgotten about. Maybe, 1992 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:45,560 Speaker 1: but when you hear him motherfucker's it's like it's and 1993 01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 1: and and and and I don't think that anybody besides myself. 1994 01:52:51,240 --> 01:52:53,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could say he wanted to nine, 1995 01:52:53,800 --> 01:53:00,040 Speaker 1: I think he's I didn't. I didn't was that I 1996 01:53:00,120 --> 01:53:08,400 Speaker 1: was now you your manager right now? You know? But honestly, 1997 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,720 Speaker 1: right other than him. Let's let's let's break it down right. 1998 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:13,840 Speaker 1: If you go with Criss Cross, absolutely not. Are you 1999 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:19,640 Speaker 1: going with actually Chris Cross the only thing? It's only one? 2000 01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 1: How you're going too fast? He already, soldier boy, alright 2001 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 1: he did. Alright, hip hop hip hop will be talking 2002 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:35,360 Speaker 1: say me against the hip hop er. Don't put me 2003 01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:39,920 Speaker 1: say Chris Cross because one thing Cris Cross one passed away. 2004 01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:41,840 Speaker 1: We can't. Yeah, you can't do it. You can't do it. 2005 01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean as the what you got, I went too 2006 01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:50,439 Speaker 1: far after that is what you're gonna do. Let's think 2007 01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:59,960 Speaker 1: about this. Can a little bit that's called sound class 2008 01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,320 Speaker 1: sound okay, so a sound class not a versus the 2009 01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,240 Speaker 1: other the other artists that could possibly I'm thinking from 2010 01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,560 Speaker 1: that time that that would have that a much that 2011 01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,200 Speaker 1: much credits do they need, you know? I mean, don't 2012 01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 1: count the songs that if we wrote for people that 2013 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:17,920 Speaker 1: if you can do those suits because you know my 2014 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,640 Speaker 1: ghostwriting says, we didn't even talk about that, but you 2015 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:23,439 Speaker 1: are ghostwriting stories and you ain't telling us I wrote 2016 01:54:23,479 --> 01:54:27,559 Speaker 1: Raven simone album. Come on man, we're going wrong here right? 2017 01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:31,680 Speaker 1: What read the credit? Ell Yeah, Mr Elliott and me 2018 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 1: was the writers for Raven Simone from the Cosby Show. 2019 01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,560 Speaker 1: We're about and you're not gonna talk about this. I mean, 2020 01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:39,480 Speaker 1: it is what it is, the first day of school, 2021 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:43,600 Speaker 1: ravens the frame and check the credit. It would have 2022 01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:45,520 Speaker 1: to be somebody that's been around for a while, that 2023 01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,960 Speaker 1: has several albums. And the only reason I say somebody 2024 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 1: like to the caliber of Bleek is because he has 2025 01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:53,000 Speaker 1: big records with jay Z. But if he takes them 2026 01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:55,840 Speaker 1: records away and it's just me and his records, I 2027 01:54:55,920 --> 01:55:00,360 Speaker 1: don't think anybody could I like it. I mean, and 2028 01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,720 Speaker 1: it's not a shot because this is stuff that's done already, 2029 01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:05,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying if a DJ could do that 2030 01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:09,080 Speaker 1: and put them together and play it out. But it's 2031 01:55:09,120 --> 01:55:11,880 Speaker 1: also the type of m C. I'm a different type 2032 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:13,920 Speaker 1: of MC than a lot of these dudes. They don't 2033 01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,400 Speaker 1: share the pain I share. They can't relate to what 2034 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Like they don't know, like they got 2035 01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:20,720 Speaker 1: to liver my balls and scraped my driding cough, Like 2036 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,960 Speaker 1: you don't know what it's like to take a fucking 2037 01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,680 Speaker 1: piece of meat and bread and wrapping and plastic and 2038 01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,480 Speaker 1: put it on the stock and tied to the fucking 2039 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,040 Speaker 1: heat of the eat. You can't funk with me. You're 2040 01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,800 Speaker 1: Nigga's living in fake land, not him particularly, but that's 2041 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,600 Speaker 1: just how I failed as an artist, as an MC. 2042 01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,160 Speaker 1: But that's the old catalog versus Then you got this 2043 01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 1: new world ball ship that Nigga just got smoked overnight. 2044 01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,800 Speaker 1: And if Nigger want to talk about wrap for today, 2045 01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: I'll smoke him there too. So I mean, I ain't 2046 01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,800 Speaker 1: turned down no college. If Nigga wants to smoke, I'm 2047 01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna bring it. But just know what you're getting into. 2048 01:55:50,880 --> 01:55:53,760 Speaker 1: I've been around a long time and I was learned. 2049 01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:56,320 Speaker 1: I learned from the best. I learned from the best. 2050 01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,200 Speaker 1: Brother was the whole clan getting jews from them? Well, 2051 01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 1: it was getting jews from Kane Well, it was getting 2052 01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,120 Speaker 1: jews from Fred Williamson's. Well was l L. It's like 2053 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,560 Speaker 1: my arsenal are the people that I talked to and 2054 01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:09,560 Speaker 1: that gave me the tools and know and think who 2055 01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,640 Speaker 1: I am and move hard more. It ain't nobody that 2056 01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 1: has that. If they do, like, bring them out, but 2057 01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:22,200 Speaker 1: you don't want it with a little vicious all right, 2058 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:25,160 Speaker 1: we at, But then we only got one song together. 2059 01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,640 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, what about a little. 2060 01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,480 Speaker 1: Is this straight hip hop? Was just legend because I've 2061 01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 1: never seen a reggae reggae I gotta get my But 2062 01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,400 Speaker 1: you mean on dream chance? Is this straight hip hop? Want? 2063 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:44,120 Speaker 1: I want to he might be some different ship right now? Yeah, 2064 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:49,120 Speaker 1: it was sufficious. Here's my man. We talked about with 2065 01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 1: Red Alert last week and we talked, Yeah, that's my boy. 2066 01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,640 Speaker 1: I'll get yeah, yeah, but I can't do it first. 2067 01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:57,240 Speaker 1: But even Visius, that's my boy. But you don't got 2068 01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:00,960 Speaker 1: enough albums with me. And that's reggae. You know what 2069 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean? I got a k to Rugged show Lost 2070 01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 1: Generation Lowe. Look, come on, man, I'm not bro bro. 2071 01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm just come on nor me. That's like coloring book 2072 01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,360 Speaker 1: raps like you want me to battle niggers, that's like 2073 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,680 Speaker 1: coloring like I wanna let me do somebody that's been busy, 2074 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,240 Speaker 1: Like I've brat with Big El, I brat with Big 2075 01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,720 Speaker 1: Al in hell mons. None of them niggers could do that. 2076 01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:32,240 Speaker 1: That's real, none of them not. And I don't want to. 2077 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing I don't want to do like I'm 2078 01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:35,720 Speaker 1: taking shot. But I'm just saying we go with facts. 2079 01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:39,960 Speaker 1: It's not personal. Mury Over here somewhere. It's not enough. 2080 01:57:40,120 --> 01:57:43,760 Speaker 1: He can't compete with my catalog. Come my category could 2081 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:49,680 Speaker 1: do it. Keith Murray just had it with Fresgro. Absolutely 2082 01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:54,879 Speaker 1: not that albums, but let's go. I got five albums 2083 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:59,320 Speaker 1: plus mix tapes and Fijians. I got five all charted 2084 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,120 Speaker 1: except for my independent. When I started my independent albums, 2085 01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:04,360 Speaker 1: that was the greatest story never told. When I started 2086 01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,920 Speaker 1: my own independent label in two thousand and three, I 2087 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:09,440 Speaker 1: started this path. So I've been trying to get my 2088 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,520 Speaker 1: websites and stuff. Some suit out and three. I had 2089 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,360 Speaker 1: bottom up the movement. I had songs like the Dust Jews. 2090 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,520 Speaker 1: I had Bonn and Mama Killed the Man. So that's 2091 01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 1: a whole underground. That's that's just something that not even touched. 2092 01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,520 Speaker 1: It's like if we do it that way, because there's 2093 01:58:22,520 --> 01:58:24,440 Speaker 1: certain ways you do it. They say you picked twenty songs, 2094 01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:28,080 Speaker 1: You go for twenty songs. I got forty songs that 2095 01:58:28,200 --> 01:58:31,200 Speaker 1: I comported, so I can go twice. That's why I 2096 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:33,080 Speaker 1: said the only person I would do versus with is 2097 01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:37,840 Speaker 1: myself Rugged show versus man Chaw. But I ain't got 2098 01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:39,960 Speaker 1: those types with numbers, like, let's be for real. You 2099 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying for a business like them, they 2100 01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:45,280 Speaker 1: want so it's not about m C and it's about 2101 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: well it could be, it could be. It just has 2102 01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,880 Speaker 1: to be the right pair of Yeah. I mean because 2103 01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:55,440 Speaker 1: right now, look they got who Cane and Caress. That's amazing, amazing, 2104 01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:02,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm here. Yeah, let's wrap it up ready, Yoh, 2105 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,080 Speaker 1: ain't your should before we go, We're gonna take another shop. 2106 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's go dj June. You gotta take another shot, brother, 2107 01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,760 Speaker 1: because make man proud. Yeah, because he dj' red too. 2108 01:59:15,040 --> 01:59:20,800 Speaker 1: That's the Red Man was about flowers. You got gold 2109 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 1: fucking flowers. Oh this is so beautiful. Yeah, man, you please, 2110 01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:29,880 Speaker 1: it's like it's bad. I want to I ain't even 2111 01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,360 Speaker 1: giving it to nobody. It's not you know, you gott 2112 01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:36,920 Speaker 1: get it. We're just starting this. Yeah, but things like this, 2113 01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:39,200 Speaker 1: it's like the kids sticking up the top five of 2114 01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:43,560 Speaker 1: who we gave this fire real ship. I can't take 2115 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,560 Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, yeah, it's dope. It's dope. That's big. Deservable, 2116 01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,600 Speaker 1: so matric this is very I so matting right there. 2117 01:59:50,720 --> 01:59:54,000 Speaker 1: The fucker that just said deservable, Yeah, I like that word. 2118 01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:59,720 Speaker 1: I'll take it. That word. You can make that with you, bro. 2119 02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 1: That's a good never right now, first time drink Shamp's dictionary. 2120 02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:12,840 Speaker 1: You started for all the words you're making. We're all 2121 02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:15,560 Speaker 1: with all the with all these slangs and everything, and 2122 02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:18,520 Speaker 1: you give the meanings to the words. You guys mock 2123 02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:28,000 Speaker 1: up concept. Yeah, but see since this is a new 2124 02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,560 Speaker 1: minor day, uh music. But I gotta get some shoutouts 2125 02:00:32,960 --> 02:00:36,240 Speaker 1: first and foremost show follow me on Instagram shot underscore 2126 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Rugged six. He got all, this is your platform, and 2127 02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:44,160 Speaker 1: I want you to know that I'm gonna keep looking 2128 02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:47,400 Speaker 1: at me in your eyes. And no, it was accepted 2129 02:00:48,200 --> 02:00:53,680 Speaker 1: prior to the yeah, that's that's not what we're doing. 2130 02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:58,640 Speaker 1: It was actually bigger up. It was like, now, not 2131 02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,480 Speaker 1: get it from that point, but some signs when you 2132 02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:02,440 Speaker 1: see things and it could be in one world that 2133 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:06,200 Speaker 1: everything else disappears. So now it makes sense when you 2134 02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:08,400 Speaker 1: watch it. She's oh he was saying that, yo, it 2135 02:01:08,560 --> 02:01:11,760 Speaker 1: was actually actually added to them, Like damn. He hadn't 2136 02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:15,280 Speaker 1: even apologize, said the fucking the air. I get it, 2137 02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:19,160 Speaker 1: but I was just like, like, I didn't get apologized to, 2138 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:21,360 Speaker 1: So I said, I didn't even get apology for none 2139 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,120 Speaker 1: of this ship, don't I ain't it. But but you 2140 02:01:24,200 --> 02:01:27,880 Speaker 1: always thinking and the reason for is because your legends. 2141 02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:32,040 Speaker 1: And the thing about it is the platform is for legends. 2142 02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:35,800 Speaker 1: We are not for you know what I'm saying, God, 2143 02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:39,080 Speaker 1: the god bodies that come to most of them, Mecha 2144 02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:44,000 Speaker 1: number seven for the first two days we are like, 2145 02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:48,680 Speaker 1: that's the God too. Were for the people that's been 2146 02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:54,360 Speaker 1: here as cold ministers. That's what we're here for. You 2147 02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, I never say I'm not 2148 02:01:57,080 --> 02:02:03,040 Speaker 1: God body, not once I elevated the same way everyone elevated. 2149 02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:07,920 Speaker 1: That's why my first question to you was big turn hood. 2150 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,600 Speaker 1: Look and when they go up state they turned blood 2151 02:02:11,720 --> 02:02:16,440 Speaker 1: or Muslim. It's because my knowledge of self has stayed 2152 02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the same. That's peace, and I will never change it. 2153 02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry well right now because but no real talk shot. 2154 02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,960 Speaker 1: That's why I fell back. I stood back because I'm 2155 02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:39,480 Speaker 1: confident in who I am as a man like wise, 2156 02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:44,000 Speaker 1: and I want you to know that this is your platform. 2157 02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Any time you ever felt offended by this platform or 2158 02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:54,160 Speaker 1: whatever you call this platform, no no, no, we're here. 2159 02:02:54,520 --> 02:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Were you under the Muslim Master number seven right now? No, no, no, no, no, no, 2160 02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:07,120 Speaker 1: no Gods exactly right here and just for future reference, 2161 02:03:07,160 --> 02:03:11,800 Speaker 1: if you ever feel offended anything, I'm gonna call you. Now. Yeah, 2162 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you. It's different. It's different because we 2163 02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,640 Speaker 1: have an understanding now, so now if but we've been 2164 02:03:16,720 --> 02:03:20,640 Speaker 1: had an understanding because no, no, no, listen, God bless 2165 02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,200 Speaker 1: me for saying this. I could be mad. I could be. 2166 02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:26,840 Speaker 1: But you know me and you, we've been always this way. 2167 02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:31,280 Speaker 1: I've always seeing you when you said every time I'm 2168 02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:36,280 Speaker 1: seeing I was a part of that, seeing you and saying, yo, 2169 02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:40,080 Speaker 1: what's sick. Yeah, I wanted you to prosper. I wanted 2170 02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:44,280 Speaker 1: you and I would that would never change. So I 2171 02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:49,600 Speaker 1: just wanted you to know it. Accept that's real always, 2172 02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and that's how I stand. You know what I'm saying. 2173 02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:53,520 Speaker 1: We're not example, we moved to it. We gotta understand it. 2174 02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,520 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful relationship. Now. Look, we're happen a there's 2175 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:58,440 Speaker 1: some some couple of words that got took in the 2176 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,200 Speaker 1: wrong way. Now we heah, we're doing like man and 2177 02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:04,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's infinite opportunities for everybody right here. I mean, 2178 02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm happy. Thank you hold off checking the picture, Let's go. 2179 02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs 2180 02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:19,480 Speaker 1: hosted by Yours Truly, d j e f N and 2181 02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:21,720 Speaker 1: n O r E. Please make sure to follow us 2182 02:04:21,760 --> 02:04:24,320 Speaker 1: on all our socials. 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