1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay F Daily with 2 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from my Brooklyn Cilarium. Folks, 3 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: I want to start off today with saying that, you know, 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: I've taken a week off, right, and when I take 5 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: time off, I usually you know, spend more time with friends, 6 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: spend time out of the toxic Twitter verse um, and 7 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of you know, disconnect from the news. The more 8 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: that I begin to get back up to speed on 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: all of the things that I've missed, all of the tragedy, 10 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: all of the trauma, it's sitting with me my continued 11 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: contempt and disappointment with this country. You know, there are 12 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: multiple trials that are happening right now, but the biggest 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: trial that I think is the one that we all 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: need to be paying attention to is America at large. 15 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Through the Written House case, through the you know, McCullough 16 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: brothers case, right the family that murdered Ahmad Aubrey. All 17 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: I can keep thinking about is this is who America is. 18 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: We often continue to say to ourselves every time that 19 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: something bad happens, every time that something just so absurdly 20 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: cruel happens in this country. We love to say, this 21 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: is not who we are. Donald Trump rips children away 22 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: from their families. This is not who we are, except 23 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: we've been doing this for centuries. It started with Native 24 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: American children that we were ripping away from their families, 25 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: moved into hundreds of years of slavery where we ripped family, 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: Black families apart in this country, sold off right. And 27 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: then we come to present day and we love to say, oh, 28 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: this isn't who we are, and yet it is a 29 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: part of our history. And it is this very part 30 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: of our history that the radical right, the Insurrectionist Party, 31 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want you to know anything about. It's why they 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: have created the boogeyman of critical race theory, something that 33 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: isn't even taught, isn't even taught at the K three 34 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: twelveth level. It's something that is actually only taught at 35 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: the graduate level right and in law school. But they 36 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: don't want you to understand your history. They don't want 37 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: us to be able to unpack and ask critical questions 38 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: about this nation's founding and how we have developed policies 39 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: right and laws that have moved forward that are actually 40 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: a part of our white supremacist founding. Because you see 41 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: that when you prepare people, when you educate them in 42 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: a way to begin to the world around them, then 43 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: you have to answer for the things you don't want 44 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to answer for. And so what is the radical rights 45 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: response to that? Just don't teach it. Ban those books, 46 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: ban those conversations, Ban the mentioning of race inequity, of 47 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: gender inequity. Let's pretend it doesn't exist. That's their idea 48 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: of how they preserve America, how they don't make white 49 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: kids feel bad about themselves. Let's all just pretend that 50 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: racism doesn't happen, that there is gender equity, and women, 51 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, make equal pay, knowing good 52 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: God damn well, that that is not the truth. But 53 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: you see where I find myself struggling these days is 54 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: that I feel like I have been having these conversations 55 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: at nauseam about the democrats inability to message, about their 56 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: inability to actually talk about the things that they are 57 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: providing Americans with as opposed to the things that the 58 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: radical right tells us they are stripping away. You know, 59 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: they're the ones that want to have a whole campaign 60 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: around cancel culture, and yet they're throwing book burning parties 61 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: and yet they're throwing mask burning parties. They are the 62 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: ones that are trying to cancel fucking common sense. And 63 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: instead of having a conversation about that, instead of us 64 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: being very real about how they are trying to roll 65 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: back the clock, how they are trying to continue to 66 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: perpetuate a culture of violence, a climate of written houses 67 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: that all feel like they have the power and the 68 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: ability to sling on in AAR fifteen and go play 69 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: target practice with other American citizens. This is the climate 70 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: that we are setting up, and it is being signaled 71 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: from the top. We have a Supreme Court case, for instance, 72 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: right that we have talked about with our friend doctor Jonathan. 73 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: That's all a Supreme Court case that is about getting 74 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: ready to essentially ban individual states abilities to be able 75 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: to create sensible gun control laws. So they just think 76 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: for a minute that the party that initially was about 77 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: quote unquote states rights has now brought up laws and 78 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: ideology that is about ripping away those very rights that 79 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: they say that states should have away from them. If 80 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: it's a red state, no no, you can continue on. 81 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: But if it's a blue state, oh no, no, no, 82 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to say that. In New 83 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: York City, a city of eight million fucking people, that 84 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: we all shouldn't have assault weapons right because oh, that 85 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: will infringe upon their Second Amendment right, not my right 86 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: to exist free of fear. That's not the conversation that 87 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: we are having. No, Instead, we are having the conversation 88 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: about everyone's right to be able to bear arms, everyone's 89 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: right to be able to be Kyle Rittenhouse and shoot 90 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: up who they will when they want. We are the 91 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: times that we are living in, folks is so incredibly dangerous. 92 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: But the conversation that I will have in a bit 93 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: with our friend Kurt Bardella is this, if every single 94 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: election is urgent, then why is it that Democrats continue 95 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: to fall behind? If we looked and knew that Virginia 96 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: was going to be an alarm right for what could 97 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: happen in the midterm elections, then why was Terry mccaullough 98 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: falling behind from the beginning with a no name fucking 99 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump light in a vest? How are we not 100 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: prepared for the tactics that they are using. There's a 101 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: new study that just came out right media hawks who 102 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: pay attention to you know, the Fox News is of 103 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: the world before the Virginia election, the number of times 104 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: that critical race theory was mentioned on Fox was like 105 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: in the hundreds on a daily Right now post the election, oh, 106 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: critical race theory is no longer a conversation. It's no 107 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: longer you know, hide the books from your children or 108 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: decide to homeschool. It's barely barely registering. And so if 109 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: you know that they are using these bullshit tactics, right, 110 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: and you know that they are creating a boogeyman out 111 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: of nothing, then why are we constantly operating from the defense. 112 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Why aren't we able to see what they are doing? 113 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Because it's not that fucking deep, do you know what 114 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's not as if this is a highly 115 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: strategic maneuvering and conversation and nuance that they are having. 116 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: It's the same race baiting shit that they've been doing 117 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: for decades. Just each and every election they pick a 118 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: new boogeyman. And you would think that Democrats would be 119 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: prepared for that. But the moment that you find yourself 120 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: right explaining what you're not doing, you are fucking losing. 121 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: And that is where Democrats are. So the question that 122 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: I am posing with less than a year until midterm elections. 123 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Is have we already lost? Right? Because here's the thing. 124 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: When you have anchor anchors and host asking members of 125 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Congress whether or not Democrats are two woke, you have 126 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: lost Democrats saying fucking woke. If they were, we would 127 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: have passed voting rights out of the fucking gate. We 128 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: would have blown up the filibuster. We would have been 129 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: active on climate change. Why because we would have been 130 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: woke and conscious too, the fucking racist ass filibuster right 131 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: that allows these small as states to have outsize power. Right, 132 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: we would have done what was necessary, what the voters 133 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: called us to do, because we would have been in 134 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: alignment with them. But are we doing that? No, we're not. 135 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: But when you are having to go on the defensive 136 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: about being woke, which means being conscious too, injustice, you 137 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: are fucking losing. So here we are with a handful 138 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: of months, and I'm telling you it's going to go 139 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: buy in a blink of an eye, because the other 140 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: day it occurred to me, said, shit, there are like 141 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: six weeks until the end of this year. Right when 142 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: we get to January, it'll almost be two years. It'll 143 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: be two years that we've been living with COVID nineteen 144 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: and we still have people fucking dying. That's how quickly 145 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: time has gone, because we lost an entire year in 146 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Right, twenty twenty one went by like boom, 147 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: And so what is in store for twenty twenty two? 148 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: Dare I ask? Because I'm terrified? But back to these cases, 149 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, when you already know what the outcome is 150 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: going to be, when you can comfortably say to yourself, like, oh, yeah, 151 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Kyle's not going to go to jail. He wasn't even 152 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: remanded to prison, right while he awaited did trial, and 153 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: yet low level drug offenders. Right Caliph Browder, the young 154 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: black man who was picked up and held in Rikers 155 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: for three years under suspicion of stealing a backpack, who 156 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: would then later be released no charges and kill himself 157 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: after the trauma that was inflicted upon him when he's 158 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: remanded for stealing of a backpack. But Kyle Rittenhouse was 159 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: able to go out drink beers and fucking live his 160 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: life after killing two people, You know that this justice 161 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: system ain't fucking right. When a judge can decide that 162 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: we're not going to use the word victim because he 163 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: believes it's too politically loaded. You know this justice system 164 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: ain't right when cops can get off after we witnessed 165 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: them on video shooting people in the back. You know 166 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: that this justice system ain't right. But what are we 167 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: doing to fix it? What conversations are we doing, what 168 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: conversations are we having? We're not So how is it 169 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: that the radical right is able to say that the 170 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: Democratic Party is too woke when they ignore all the 171 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: same fucking shit. You know, and this is what I'm saying. 172 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: It is all a distraction. It is all a distraction 173 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: in order to keep white supremacy alive. If you are 174 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: paying attention to this shit over here, then you are 175 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: not focused on the bigger picture, which is who is 176 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: making money off of all of this? Right? Who benefits 177 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: from this, whether it be through power for power's sake 178 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: or money right at the sake of greed. But somebody 179 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: is benefiting. And this country only works right at the 180 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: expense of the least among us. So when we decide 181 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: to have honest conversations about that, right, when we decide 182 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: to tell the truth, right, that will be us being 183 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: whoa But right now, both parties, if you ask me, 184 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: are just a bunch of political ostriches. They're just burying 185 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 1: their heads in the sand. The radical right knows exactly 186 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: how to talk to their base. They know exactly what 187 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: they want to hear. It doesn't matter that they don't 188 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: deliver shit. They deliver the rhetoric that they love. Right. 189 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: They make these people feel proud with their millions of guns, right, 190 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: and the desire for members of Congress to post videos 191 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: of them killing another member of Congress. That's the shit 192 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: that their base wants to see. But the stuff that 193 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: we want to see as a base of the Democratic Party, 194 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: we're told, oh no, no, no, no no, that's too much, 195 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: because I'm too busy fucking chasing the Karens right, trying 196 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: to get them to switch parties, when since nineteen fifties 197 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: they have shown exist us exactly who the fuck they 198 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: are and where their allegiance lies. But we're still trying 199 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: to bring them back. You know, all I can say 200 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: with regard to this current political climate is take good 201 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: care of yourself, right, take good care of yourself. You 202 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: have got to be balancing out what it is that 203 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: we are ingesting with what we are putting back out 204 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: into the universe. We cannot sustain on rage alone. Trust me, 205 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: this is what I am learning after years of doing Woke, 206 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: after years of raging against the machine, that if I 207 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: am not working to fill my own cup, if I 208 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: am not working right as a way to speak and 209 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: say what it is that I have to say, but 210 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: then let it go, relieve myself of the expectations that 211 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: anything is truly going to shift in this country other 212 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: than waking more people up. But knowing right this is 213 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: my turn with the baton, but that I am not 214 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: going to see justice in my lifetime, right, But I 215 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: can only do what I can to pass the baton 216 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: to the next generation, to the next group of people 217 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: who care and hope that they carry the work further. 218 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: But I cannot in the process burn myself out and 219 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: make myself sick, because that would be feeding into the 220 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: system of white supremacy that has a death grip on 221 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: this country. Coming up next, friends, is my conversation with 222 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: our dear friend who has returned to Woke, f Kurt Bardella, 223 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: about what he believes the Democratic Party needs to do 224 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: in order to win in this next election and whether 225 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: or not we're going to have the stomach for the 226 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: kind of fight that we are up against, folks. I 227 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: am so excited to welcome back to Woke f Daily 228 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: our friend Kurt Bardela. You know him as a DNC 229 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: and d Triple C spokesperson as well as a columnist 230 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: and regular guesting contributor on MSNBC. Kurt, let's just you know, 231 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: cut the bs from the jump. Democrats are not in 232 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: good shape. Even though you know, finally, finally, after months 233 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: of deliberation, after back and forth with Senator Kirsten Cinema 234 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: and Joe Manchion and you know, the Progressive Caucus in 235 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: the House, we have a bipartisan infrastructure deal that was 236 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: signed this week. However, there are many people, including myself, 237 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: that are wondering whether or not Democrats have already lost 238 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: the midterm elections before we even get started. With less 239 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: than a year and now to go until those midterm 240 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: elections happen. What kind of shape do you think that 241 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: Democrats are in right now? Well, Daniel, I think it's 242 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: an uphill climb, candidly, and part of the reason why, 243 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: and this doesn't get talked about nearly enough, the redistricting 244 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: process that is happening right now, the partisan Jerry Mandarin 245 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: of congressional districts. Before we even get on the playing 246 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: field in twenty twenty two, we could have already lost 247 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: our majority just based on how Republicans in the state 248 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: houses are drawing these lines and grouping communities of color 249 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: and very concentrated areas so that they don't have widespread 250 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: representations blatant racism, and it's happening in broad daylight, and 251 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: it underscores I think one of the real blind spots 252 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party from an organization standpoint, which is, 253 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: for too long we've kind of ignored what goes on 254 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: in the local and state level, while Republicans have very 255 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: systemically and deliberately launched multi million dollar campaigns to build 256 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: up their bench in these places. I've always said that 257 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: today's city council member, today's state assemblyment is tomorrow's congressman 258 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: or tomorrow senator. And we're seeing that happen. I mean, 259 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: right now, local school boards are under siege by the 260 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: radical extreme right, and that is a deliberate plan by 261 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: the Republican Party to try to hijack all of the 262 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: institutions and put them in their column. And that's going 263 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: and as we see every ten years, that has a 264 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: very significant impact. When we look at the playing field 265 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: for mid term elections, I think that after what happened 266 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago in Virginia and New Jersey, 267 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: even though we won New Jersey was alarmingly close, democratsy 268 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: to wake up and realize something. On climate change, we 269 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: saw Republicans hijack the issue and turned the Green New 270 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: Deal into a bad word. On voting rights and police reform, 271 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: we saw Republicans hijack those issues and turn it into 272 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: defund the police. On the issue of infrastructure and congressional spending, 273 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: we saw them hijacket and just make it into a 274 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: price tag designed to scare away of voters. On education, 275 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: we saw them hijacket and turned it into critical race theory. 276 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: And we saw how that played out in the most 277 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: recent elections. Time and again, Republicans take our issues and 278 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: scare us away from talking about them. And I'll tell you, 279 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: if you would to set a year ago, Danielle that 280 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: the Virginia elections can come down to the issue of education, 281 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: who do you think is gonna win? Everybody would have said, oh, 282 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: that faris of Democrats, and education debate is a Democrat 283 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: wheelhouse issue. And yet somehow we lost that, and we 284 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: have got to stop letting Republicans hijack our issues and 285 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: just run unopposed and unabashed on them, thinking that no 286 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: one's going to notice, no one's going to actually buy 287 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: into their fear mongering. Listen, folks, the myth that people 288 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: don't buy into this bullshit should have been completely destroyed 289 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: after the twenty sixteen election. We've got to start matching 290 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: fire with fire here or we're just gonna get wiped out. 291 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: So let's look at the Virginia race from a couple 292 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, Kurt, you know, and I want to 293 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: be honest where I feel that Terry mcculloff ran a 294 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: bullshit campaign. I think that Terry mcculloff did not offer 295 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: the voters anything right other than I am not Donald Trump, 296 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: and sadly because of the I don't know, hesitation, ignorance, 297 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: blatant obstructionism of two of our own Democratic senators, he 298 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: also had nothing to run on right in terms of 299 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: Democrats get things done, so put me back in office. 300 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: That being said, if you were running that campaign right, 301 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: and in hindsight, we saw that junkin use critical race theory, 302 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: parents should have quote unquote a choice. Right. We saw 303 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: book banning and book burning come back into come back 304 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: into focus in the twenty first century in such a 305 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: way that should have been alarming, but we kind of 306 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: just shrugged at it. What would you have said to 307 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Terry mccauliff's campaign, What would you have said to him 308 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: in terms of how you combat this wayward messaging about 309 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: critical race theory, which, by the way, is not even 310 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: taught in our K through twelve school systems. It is 311 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: a higher education curriculum, right, What would you what would 312 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: you have said to him to do so as not 313 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: to fall into the rabbit hole of defending something that 314 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: is actually nonsense. I think I would. I would have 315 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: owned the issue of education and never let Glenn young 316 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: can take it from you, and to begin, I remember 317 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: very early on in the campaign one of the first 318 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: public speeches that Terry gave on the sign on the 319 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: podium were the word's education. And yet I never felt 320 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: like I heard Terry talk about that very much. And 321 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: it gave this opening to the Republicans to just kind 322 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: of seize this issue, put millions of dollars of advertising 323 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: behind it, so that by the time Terry woke up 324 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: to the issue that hey, this is becoming a problem. 325 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: It was kind of too late, the person already baked in. 326 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, I really feel like this again. This happens 327 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: all the time and it drives me nuts. Democrats just 328 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: surrendered these issues to the Republicans and they get trapped 329 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: in that, oh, we're not going to go there now 330 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: that the Republicans have touched it, because we don't want 331 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: to play into their into their hands, Ignoring the issue 332 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: is playing into their hands. Terry should have owned the 333 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: issue of education. The guy was governed for four years. 334 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: He has a track record in an education that he 335 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: could have promoted and talked about every single day, so 336 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: that by a time Young Can and the Republicans went there, 337 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: it would have been seen for what for what it 338 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: really was a political stunt, a desperate effort to grab 339 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: onto an issue radicalize it in the same way that 340 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Republicans like to talk about. Remember the twenty eighteen in terms, 341 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: all you heard on foxes of caravans are coming, are coming, 342 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: Yet they have never arrived, and they never arrived in 343 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: never hear anything about a since. But that's what they did. 344 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: It didn't work because we took that head on. We 345 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: didn't let them get away with that in this case 346 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: in Virginia, I felt like we kind of did. And 347 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I would have told Terry, listen, do not underestimate this campaign. 348 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Do not underestimate the money that young can is able 349 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: to have at his disposal to run TV ad after. 350 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I live in Virginia, I can tell you 351 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: for months, all I saw were these Glenn Young can 352 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: ads every single day on daytime television, specifically targeting women. 353 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: You don't run ads during general hass Bill unless you're 354 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: targeting a certain constituency. And I never saw mccalliff out 355 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: there early enough, and I think that they started too 356 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: late getting into the game. I think that they gave 357 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: Glenn a huge runaway. Listen, Glenn Yonkin wasn't unknown. He's 358 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: never run for office before, so he kind of had 359 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: a clean slate. So he got to create his own 360 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: first impression with the voters, and he had that playing 361 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: field all to himself for months. And by the time 362 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: the Democrats got along to trying to say, hey, listen, 363 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: this guy is Donald Trump and a vest don't be fooled, 364 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: it was too late. Voters had already made a first 365 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: impression about Young Kin. Because he was able to do 366 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: that without any pushback for months. But I mean, here's 367 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: the thing. If every election we are being told right 368 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: since twenty sixteen, no, actually, let's go back to Obama, 369 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight, has been the most consequential 370 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: election of our lifetime. Every single election we hear that 371 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: mantra from the Democrats, except this actually was one of 372 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: the most consequential elections, right, and not saying that all 373 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: is lost because mcculoff lost the race. But let's be clear, 374 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: we had been owning Virginia for the last decade, right 375 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: after hard fought like ground games done in Virginia to 376 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: turn it blue, and so here we are, right. How 377 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: is it that they started late, Kurt? How is it 378 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: that we want to tell people that they need to 379 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: get out and vote it's so consequential, and yet mcculloff's 380 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: campaign could allow such runaway for Yuncan's team and yet 381 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: have no recourse. Yeah, I think that Democrats at times 382 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: are it's hard for them. I think to reconcile that 383 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: after the four years that was Donald Trump, that somehow 384 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: the republic Party has actually gotten stronger and been able 385 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: to gain ground. You know, I go back to the 386 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty election, and while yeah, it was great that 387 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: Joe Biden won, obviously, but I think about the congressional 388 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: losses we absorbed, how our majority got narrowed down to 389 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: just a handful, how we barely have the United States 390 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Senate if not for the miracle that really was you know, 391 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: Warnock and ass Off in Georgia happening. This was not 392 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: a good election cycle in twenty twenty for the Democrats. 393 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: We won by the skin of our teeth. And Donald 394 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Trump still managed to get something like seventy two million 395 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: votes or whatever, right, or sixty three million or whatever 396 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: it was. But it's like, man, that that should have 397 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: been the wake up call that it was that close, 398 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: and that the reality is Donald Trump got the second 399 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: most votes for president in the history of our country. 400 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: The only person only Joe Biden got more. But like, 401 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: that's a ship a ton of people still voting field 402 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: this guy. Ye after four years of what we saw, 403 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: So what does that tell me? It tells me that 404 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: we have a huge messaging problem. I mean, I feel 405 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: like we've been having this conversation for like five years anil. 406 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: But but honest to god, it's like, clearly we have 407 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: not been articulating in a way that is resonating with 408 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,719 Speaker 1: a large swath of this country. And I think it 409 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: begins with and I've been thinking a lot about this late, 410 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: and I said this the other day on joy Read. 411 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: You don't hear democrats say enough. I love this country. 412 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: I'm proud to be an American, and I'm proud of 413 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: our story, however imperfect it is, because it is a 414 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: story about becoming better and the pursuit of a better 415 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: and more perfect union. That pursuit never ends. That's why 416 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: we need to talk about social injustice and racial inequality 417 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: in America, and sexism in the workplace and you and 418 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: all the things that Democrats care about and talk about. 419 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: But I think that they need to begin that conversation 420 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: with the simple phrase, I love this country because I 421 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: want to make it better. If I didn't give a 422 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: shit about this country, I wouldn't care about any of 423 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: these things. I just say it is what it is 424 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: and move on. But ever since September eleventh, somehow Republicans 425 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: have been given this monopoly on patriotism. That's wrong. Republicans 426 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: are nationalist, Democrats are patriots. And we got to start 427 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: talking about it that way, we should not be afraid 428 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: to lean in to say that we love this country 429 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: and that more things should unite than divide us. But 430 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: we surrender all of that to Republicans year after year, 431 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: and I don't understand why. And it allows them to 432 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: use words like liberty and freedom and all these buzzwords 433 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: that they use to try to mask their frankly white 434 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: nationalist policies that they're trying to impose on the rest 435 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: of us. But we got to change the way that 436 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: we talk about this stuff, because I'll tell you that 437 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: I spent, as you know, a lot of my time 438 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: in the country music world, were a lot of concerts 439 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: all over this country. And now I was able, thanks 440 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: to the vaccination that Joe Biden got through and shots 441 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: and Arms campaign, I was able to go to a 442 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: lot of different shows this summer and in the fall. 443 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: And the feeling that I get everywhere that I went 444 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: was that there's this perception that Democrats are out to 445 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: take things away from us and to h and we 446 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: have got to change that that lexicon a little bit here, 447 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: or we're gon we're just gonna get slacked. You know 448 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: that that feeling is very real. And while some of 449 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: it is justified. Yeah, we are trying to cancel racism 450 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: and sexism and sexual harassment and bad behavior. Everybody is 451 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: tripping over themselves, like worrying about did I say the 452 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: right thing to a t Is this going to blow 453 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: up on Twitter? Twitter is not real life, thank god, 454 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: because it's accessful, thank god. Right, But we got to 455 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: start as Democrats showing that we want to do things 456 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: four people, not two though. You know, Kurt, you articulate 457 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: this so clearly, and you and you're right in your 458 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: assessment that we have been talking about this for five 459 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: plus years, right, that Democrats, when it comes to messaging, 460 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: they don't have it. And then we cower behind the 461 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: excuse that, well, it's easier to sell fear, right, it's 462 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: easier to sell hate. But yet we watched in two 463 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: thousand and eight and again in two thousand and twelve 464 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: as the Obama team build a coalition with the same 465 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: freagan Americans that we're dealing with today. Now, yes, is 466 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: the climate more fraught. Absolutely, is racism more potent? Correct, 467 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: it is? Is violence against various marginalized communities on the rise, absolutely, 468 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: But it's the same people that we are dealing with right. 469 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: And so my problem here is that when is it 470 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: and whose responsibility is it to say we need an overhaul, 471 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: that it is time to throw out our bullshit playbook, 472 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: that it is time for us to stop being on 473 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: the defensive right and say, because to your point, when 474 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: we are forced into a corner that says no, no, no, 475 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: we're not trying to take your guns away, we are 476 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: too We are left too busy explaining what we are 477 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 1: not trying to do, as opposed to what it is 478 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: that we are actually actively trying to do. If I 479 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: am telling you that critical race theory doesn't actually exist, 480 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: and that's where I'm spending my time and energy, that 481 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: I'm not having conversations about how we're not making students 482 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: that are globally competitive, we're not preparing them for a 483 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: twenty first century workforce that, by the way, again we've 484 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: been talking about for decades but still haven't rectified. So 485 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: if we're doing all of this defense work, there is 486 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: no opportunity for us to create the narrative about where 487 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: we are trying to push America. And my question is 488 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: who is in charge of saying, let's scrap this shit 489 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: that we've been doing for the past three decades. That 490 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: is having us on the losing end and let us 491 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: move forward. Yeah, that's a great point too. And let 492 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: me just say I've always send in campaigns if you 493 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: are explaining you are losing. Yep. For better or worse. 494 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Republicans are very good at branding. I mean they seize 495 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: on the things and they come up with something and 496 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: you hear it over and over and over again. There 497 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: is repetition, there is frequency, there is volume, and we 498 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: can learn a thing or two about about that and 499 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: start employing that. You know, one of the things that 500 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: they do feel optimistic about. You know, I'm a big 501 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Jamie Harrison family. You know, I think that he is dynamic. 502 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: He is not a creature of Washington. He is someone 503 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: who has been on the ground and hard fought campaigns 504 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: in a very unique state in South Carolina, a state that, oh, 505 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: by the way, if it weren't for South Carolina, Joe 506 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: Biden wouldn't be our president, right And shout out to 507 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Jim Plyburn, who literally saved democracy, who does not get 508 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: enough credit for that. You know, someone like Jamie Harrison 509 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: running the DNC that makes me feel hopeful because that's 510 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: such a different type of character that we've had there 511 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: than the previous kind of establishment types, Washington types who 512 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: are at times very out of touch with the rest 513 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: of this country. Not to mention, he's a personal color. 514 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: What a radical idea that is, right? You know, I 515 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: look at someone who's running the D Triple cy Sean 516 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Maloney. This is a guy from New York who 517 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: won in a Trump district, so he understands and has 518 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: done successfully the impossible. He is an openly gay Democrat 519 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: who won in a Trump district. That's a very different 520 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: type of person that we've had that, you know, in 521 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: that position than we've had before. And then I also think, 522 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: as with anything, when you have a president of your party, 523 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: everything begins and ends there. You know, it's you know, 524 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: the White House is hopefully starting to kind of get 525 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: their footing passing infrastructure, hopefully getting the second part of 526 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: that done in the next week or so, finally have 527 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: things to go out there and promote. You know, there's 528 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: then the use there's going to be a thousand events country, 529 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: you know, throughout the country promoting what this infrastructure bill is, 530 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: what it can do. Using people like Secretary Boota Chedge 531 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: and Jennifer Granholm to go out on the road and 532 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: start getting into people's faces in communities. You know, that's 533 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: a part of it too. I personally think that the 534 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: president has been a little bit too protected by his 535 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: staff and that we need to see more of him, 536 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: not less of him. I don't I don't buy into 537 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: the nonsense and DC narrative abiding gaffs. I'm like, I'm sorry. 538 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: The last guy that was in office was a freaking 539 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: garbage monster who was calling the press the enemy of 540 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: our country, who said you could grab women by the pussy, 541 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: who on a like nothing just by all countries. I mean, 542 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, so if if every now to 543 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: get Biden doesn't get the right word or the right phrase, 544 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: so fucking what, who cares? My God? Like, we got 545 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: to stop being in front of yone shadow and let 546 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: him get back out there. One of the funniest things 547 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: and most intuitively smart things I saw was the SNL 548 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: cold Open or they or Jason Sidekis was hosting, and 549 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: they had the current Biden than Sadekis was the the 550 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden of twenty twelve, if you will, and that 551 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: kind of more Uncle Joe, the freewheeling have a good time, 552 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: very gregarious. I want I think we need more of 553 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: that right now. Actually, and there is that kind of 554 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: let Biden be Biden. It's like, yeah, he's gonna say something. 555 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're gonna Sath Mike cringe. But it's but I'd 556 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: rather have more more of him out there than not, 557 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, speaking of the administration, I want to get 558 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the latest stories around the vice president 559 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: right um. You know, over last weekend there were you 560 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: know a couple of stories that came out about there 561 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: either being friction or whether or not she's being used 562 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: strategically in the way that is within her wheelhouse and 563 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: her skill set. And you know, I can tell you 564 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: that for the last couple of months on Woke a app, 565 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: I have been wanting to put Kamala Harris on a 566 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: milk carton because I had wondered since inauguration, right and 567 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: since the Shots in your Arm campaign where you saw her, 568 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: you know, right next to Joe Biden, as Biden was 569 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: right next to Obama. Then all of a sudden we 570 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: didn't see her. What are you making of the banter 571 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: around her? You know, her her kind of disappearing act 572 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: and what and what can be rectified as we move 573 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: into what is going to be once again one of 574 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: the most consequential midterm election cycles. You know, I think 575 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things are true at the same time, 576 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: and they're not mutually exclusive. One, Yes, the invistras should 577 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: do about her job using Kamala Harris. There's just no 578 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: doubt about that. I think back even to the Summer 579 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: Olympics and I thought to myself, Wow, we're looking at 580 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: all these remarkable women bring home gold medals, and you know, 581 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: I think of even the especially our Simone Biles and 582 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: our gymnastics team. I wouldn't be having Harris do something 583 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: with some of these great champions on invisible way, you know. 584 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: Number Two, I do think that the way that Harris 585 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: is being judged and scrutinize is so different than what 586 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: we saw the prost to Mike Pence, to Joe Biden, 587 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: to Dick Cheney, to any vice president we've ever had. 588 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: And the only thing different about her than those people say, 589 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: she's not a white guy. So that leads to tell 590 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: me that there's still an inherent bias, sexist bias against 591 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: a woman, the first female vice president, that she's being scrutinized. 592 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: No one seemed to give a ship that Mike Pence 593 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: was just enough on the shelf for four years, that's 594 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: the best. I don't remember seeing an avalanche of narratives 595 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: about that. So there's there's there's definitely an element of, 596 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, just typical nonsense, bullshit sexism from the press corps. 597 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Number three. I think that one of Kamala Harris at 598 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: her best I always thought was when she was at 599 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: a congressional hearing, grilling to shit out of somebody. Yep, 600 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: you know that that the prosecutor in her comes out 601 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: that the Attorney General, Kamala Harris, that was on California, 602 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: Like that's her wheelhouse, that's her strength. I would have 603 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: her front and center prosecuting the case, if you will, 604 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: of the anti democratic insurgents like Donald Trump, like Steve 605 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: band And like Marjorie Taylor Green, like Lauren Baubart, like 606 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: Matt Gates, like Man Scutler. I would have her just 607 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: ripped them all day, every day, because that's when she's 608 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: on fire. And I think that's closer to who she 609 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: actually is. Um And I also think that one of 610 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: the big areas that we've seemed to have lost, and 611 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: we saw this in Virginia. Are with you know moms interesting? 612 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: I would be using the Vice president a lot more 613 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: in that, in the Mamola figure, if you will, because 614 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: she is accomplished, she is smart, she is a fantastic speaker, 615 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 1: she is great in person. There are a billion different 616 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: mom coalitions out there. Let's get her out there with 617 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: those people too. Let's start. Let's start using her that way. 618 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: She is a unique resource that we have that we 619 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: need to deploy aggressively and frequently. And that's not happening 620 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: right now. You know, going back to the insurrection for 621 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: a moment and the prosecuting the case, you know, that 622 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: was Kamala Harris's mantra for her candidacy for the presidency. 623 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to prosecute the case against Donald Trump. And 624 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: yet what we have seen time and time again with 625 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: this administration is pretty much them wanting to seemingly turn 626 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: the page. I don't hear Joe Biden on a regular 627 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: basis talking about the insurrectionists. I don't hear him talking 628 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: about Steve Bannon, you know, finally being indicted right for 629 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: not showing up for subpoenas. And to your point, if 630 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: it is not the president's role. Then shouldn't the vice president, 631 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: who is a famed prosecutor, who was an attorney general, 632 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: have been made the advisor to the House Committee for 633 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: the insurrection. Couldn't she have been front and center on 634 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, the fact that we need to return dignity 635 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:43,720 Speaker 1: and integrity and faith and trust into our government institutions 636 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 1: and be out there you know, doing that, Like, is 637 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: there not a way for us to do both and right? 638 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: And we need to? I mean, this is the thing. 639 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: There's an irony that in some ways vice president would 640 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: have made it. I think of a far better attorney general. Well, uh, 641 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: I agree, as an attorney general than vice president. Yeah, 642 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like, um, you know, obviously, when you were a 643 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: vice president, of first and foremost role and responsibility is 644 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: to serve the pleasure the president, you know, and to 645 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: and to do the White House is bidding. That's that's 646 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: the job that's signed up for. And she knew that 647 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: going into it. I mean, but there's no secret about 648 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: what that job is, and certainly the president knows that 649 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: better than anybody, having had to do that job for 650 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: eight years. Um. But I do think that we're missing 651 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: you know again, I look at her as an untapped 652 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: resources that are parts of her, and I think about what, 653 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: like you said that candidate Harris and Senator Harris and 654 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: former Attorney General California Harris, that that that can create 655 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 1: value right now, and that we need someone on the 656 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: national stage doing that with regularity. I mean, because, make 657 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: no mistake about it, right now, we're seeing, as some 658 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: of these trials are are, you know, unfolding before of 659 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: her eyes, a deliberate effort to paint these insurrectionists as heroes, 660 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: as patriots, as victims. Somehow that is just mind blowing, 661 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: and I for one would like to see a more 662 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: fierce response from everybody about how that's just nonsensical, how 663 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: it's dangerous, how it's paid me in the way for 664 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: an even more violent and deadly insurrection attempt if things 665 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: don't go there away next time. The democracy is on 666 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: fire right now, yep, and that fire is always spread 667 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: and grown. In the last year, we got members of 668 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Congress who thinks it's it's actually okay to create videos 669 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: of the murdering other congressman and no accountability or responsibility. 670 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure as hell not looking at Kevin 671 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: McCarthy to do a goddamn thing with his spineless jellyfish self. 672 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: But like, I mean, everybody else, And like, we got 673 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: a guy who leads Rome and Party who thinks it's 674 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: okay that a mob of people wanted to literally hang 675 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: his vice, isn't it. I'm no Mike penns fan, but 676 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to see him hung on our gals 677 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: in front of the United States Capital for crying out loud. No. 678 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: I mean, so this is just a fire alarm going 679 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: off in my head as I see these things happen, 680 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: and I feel like there's still that a lack of 681 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: urgency and understanding really the erosion to our democratic norms 682 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: that are unfolding before us every single day. There needs 683 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: to be a forceful response to that. And it does, 684 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: in my opinion, reach to the level of the presidency 685 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: in terms of responsibility to acknowledge it and to call 686 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: it out. And I know that the argument, oh, we 687 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: don't want to give it fuel. We don't want to 688 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: give it that, Like guess what it's got fuel? Right, 689 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: it's burning hard, ye, Like it's spread the we don't 690 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: want to give it oxygen And maybe I'll go away 691 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: theory that died on January six, folks, come on, so 692 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: we need to get into the game. And I and 693 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: like you said, I can't we walk into them at 694 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,839 Speaker 1: the same time. Why can't we do that as well 695 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 1: as promoter our policies and and accurately label the Repuibament 696 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: Party for what it is. We should able to do 697 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: all those things, you know, and it is it is. 698 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: It is my hope right at ye of little faith 699 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,920 Speaker 1: left in midst democracy and in this party. It is 700 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: my hope that you know, the Virginia election was an 701 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: alarm that the alarms that have been set by this 702 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: insurrectionist party where numbers of people who are actually involved 703 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: at the insurrection are now elected officials, that if that 704 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880 Speaker 1: is not setting off this sense of urgency that I 705 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: am looking for, then I don't know what will. Kurt Bardella, 706 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,479 Speaker 1: it is lovely, has been lovely to have you back 707 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: on Woke F. We have missed you and your analysis 708 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: and appreciate you making time for us today. We'll talk 709 00:44:54,080 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: to you soon, my friend. That is it for me 710 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: to day on woke F as always, Power to the 711 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: people and to all the people. Power, get woke and 712 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 1: stay woke as fuck.