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Speaker 2: We'll talk to the man who signed Michael Jordan to
Speaker 2: the historical, historic Nike contract. He also signed Kobe to
Speaker 2: his first contract that was with Adidas, and he thought
Speaker 2: he had a deal with Lebron James when Lebron was
Speaker 2: going to sign with Adidas. And when you think about it,
Speaker 2: what would have happened to Nike if Michael Jordan didn't
Speaker 2: go there? They were a running shoe company. Imagine that
Speaker 2: if Mike didn't go there and he went to Adidas,
Speaker 2: and the fact that Kobe was at Adidas and Lebron
Speaker 2: would have gone to Adidas as well, what that would
Speaker 2: have meant for Nike, What that would have meant for Adidas,
Speaker 2: what it would have meant for the global shoe market
Speaker 2: as well. And Michael Jordan is Michael Michael Jordan the
Speaker 2: businessman if he went to Adidas as opposed to Nike.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Marvin, that's the only way to read it, or
Speaker 3: you can read a life miss McMahon back in the
Speaker 3: day the hockey talk man. Wheresus the Ultimate Warrior?
Speaker 2: It's Survivors? Yeah, I like the trail off there eight
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Speaker 2: first hour talking about the greatness of Steph Curry. At
Speaker 2: fifty six points twelve three pointers last night, he single
Speaker 2: handedly out scored Orlando in the third quarter twenty two
Speaker 2: to twenty one. And it was the subtle reminder night
Speaker 2: from Steph Curry, who spoke about his legacy after the game.
Speaker 4: I was just somebody that people felt inspired by when
Speaker 4: they watched. We've created a live memories now for myself,
Speaker 4: I know for fans who've watched the whole career, So
Speaker 4: no matter if you've been watching since nine or beforehead
Speaker 4: or recently, just somebody that brings.
Speaker 5: Joy to the game.
Speaker 4: Is inspiring to not only just play basketball, but to
Speaker 4: find your best self and whatever you decide to do.
Speaker 4: And we talked about just having joy and having a
Speaker 4: smile on my face because I'm blessed.
Speaker 2: That's great answer. And where he was, you know, he
Speaker 2: was a curiosity at Davidson and that's when we were
Speaker 2: first introduced to him. That we had him on. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was his sophomore or junior year,
Speaker 2: and then I thought he was going to get drafted
Speaker 2: by Minnesota. They took two point guards, they just didn't
Speaker 2: take the right point guard. Who is it? Ricky Rubio
Speaker 2: and Johnny Flynn.
Speaker 6: That was a deep discussion back then.
Speaker 2: And I remember the GM David Kahn, I think that
Speaker 2: was his name, and we had him on and I
Speaker 2: remember telling him to take Steph Curry, and then we
Speaker 2: had him on after when they didn't take Steph Curry,
Speaker 2: and I think we continue to have him on to
Speaker 2: remind him that he didn't have take Steph Curry, and
Speaker 2: I think he eventually got fired, but Steph was there.
Speaker 2: We just didn't know if Steph would be a role player.
Speaker 2: I think you know, there was probably a consensus he
Speaker 2: was going to be a role player. Oh, he would
Speaker 2: never be able to hold up, you know, to the
Speaker 2: physicality of the NBA. He's not going to get that
Speaker 2: shot off against these other athletes. And you had the
Speaker 2: ankle injury, and that's where you wondered if Golden State
Speaker 2: really made a big mistake, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we haven't talked about that ankle, feels like in a
Speaker 2: long long time, but we continue to talk about Steph Curry.
Speaker 6: Yes, Bowie, I went back and look, Steph Curry didn't
Speaker 6: make an All Star team un till his fifth year
Speaker 6: in the NBA. His fifth year, he was twenty fourteen.
Speaker 6: Twenty fifteen, he averaged twenty four points per game. And
Speaker 6: we had him on the show August of twenty fifteen,
Speaker 6: before the year he scored thirty a game and won
Speaker 6: the MVP. He said to you, you asked who's the
Speaker 6: best offensive player in basketball? And he said me, And
Speaker 6: it got a lot of blowback towards Curry, and then
Speaker 6: he went out that year and average thirty and won
Speaker 6: the MVP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because people think or thought, you know, Lebron is
Speaker 2: the most dominating force offensive fource or Kevin Durant if
Speaker 2: you want to put him in there. But this is
Speaker 2: you know, Steph saying, no, I am now can you
Speaker 2: say that he He's right? No, I mean what Lebron
Speaker 2: is doing? Lebron. Oh, by the way, what did you
Speaker 2: do last night? I mean they deep Minnesota. Did he
Speaker 2: have thirty three and seventeen rebounds? Does that sound right, Marvin?
Speaker 3: Yeah, something that range.
Speaker 2: It's incredible what he does every single night. Nobody, nobody,
Speaker 2: You don't want to say nobody's going to do this,
Speaker 2: but that the amount of mileage on his leg, on
Speaker 2: his body, it's just I'm fascinated. I still think he's
Speaker 2: one of the top ten players in the game and
Speaker 2: he's forty.
Speaker 3: Yeahes marn I suggest everybody who watches basketball or who
Speaker 3: loves basketball, who was really into it, watch Court of
Speaker 3: Gold on Netflix and you'll see the competitive spirit of
Speaker 3: guys like Steph Curry, Lebron James, and Kevin Durant. These
Speaker 3: guys are as as accomplished as anybody who's ever played,
Speaker 3: and they were trying to jokij watch the guys from
Speaker 3: France wenby Nicholas Patoum. He's serious, people like, oh, they
Speaker 3: don't care about the game. Oh they care. They just
Speaker 3: don't care about the All Star Game in the middle
Speaker 3: of February during the NBA season.
Speaker 2: All right, so our poll question for the first hour
Speaker 2: is you could be sho Heyo Tani, Steph Curry or
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes their entire career.
Speaker 7: Obviously, this is the results here a recency bias. Whose
Speaker 7: career would you want past in future? Show Hao Tani
Speaker 7: Right now he's come down to fifty percent of the
Speaker 7: vote for fifty five. Steph has twenty nine percent, Patrick
Speaker 7: Mahomes ticking up to about twenty two percent.
Speaker 2: Dish. Actually, it's not recency bias.
Speaker 7: It's a depcency bias, since they're going along with what
Speaker 7: you want depiecency.
Speaker 2: There's not a wrong answer. There isn't. Uh Lebron against
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves had thirty three, seventeen and six assists. It's
Speaker 2: it's mind boggling, it really is. It's every single night,
Speaker 2: you know, Steph gives us those remind we haven't had
Speaker 2: one of these reminder games in a little while, but
Speaker 2: Golden State is playing a whole lot better since they
Speaker 2: got Jimmy Butler. Jimmy Butler didn't play well last night,
Speaker 2: but you know you've reached a whole different stratosphere when
Speaker 2: the opposing team's fan base gives you a standing ovation.
Speaker 2: Not many guys get that opportunity where the opposing team
Speaker 2: appreciates what they saw in Orlando last night. They appreciated
Speaker 2: what they saw. They only get to see him once
Speaker 2: a year. They showed out to see him, and he
Speaker 2: showed up with fifty six points. This was in from
Speaker 2: Diana Rassini from the Athletic Matthew Stafford is going to
Speaker 2: meet today with the Rams at the Rams team facility
Speaker 2: to discuss his future. You apparently reportedly have two deals
Speaker 2: on the table. The Raiders and Giants have disc two
Speaker 2: year contracts for Stafford that are probably ninety to one
Speaker 2: hundred million guaranteed. This according to sources telling Diana Rassini,
Speaker 2: the Rams gave Stafford's agent permission to talk to other teams,
Speaker 2: and now you're going to be able to go back
Speaker 2: and go, okay, are you going to match this or
Speaker 2: are we going to come up with a trade scenario here.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Giants or Raiders would give
Speaker 2: up for Matthew Stafford. If Jimmy Garoppolo is the answer,
Speaker 2: I probably don't like the question. If I'm a Rams fan.
Speaker 2: He's a good backup. But you're going to replace Matthew
Speaker 2: Stafford with Jimmy Garoppolo with a team that is winning now,
Speaker 2: not prepared to win now, they've already won now two
Speaker 2: years Matthew Stafford. That gives you an opportunity, you know.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't understand the timeline here that Albert Breer,
Speaker 2: the Monday Morning Quarterback, talked about yesterday five year window
Speaker 2: as opposed to a two year window. And I just
Speaker 2: I've been around this a long long time and understanding
Speaker 2: the wait till next year usually doesn't come. Just asked
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers they were in line to win
Speaker 2: a couple. They should win a couple. Now they did
Speaker 2: go to a super Bowl, but you know the goal
Speaker 2: is to win. The Rams won one. I see no
Speaker 2: reason why they can't compete to win another with Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: The next two years, young team defense got some skilled
Speaker 2: position players. You got Puka Nakua, I just and you
Speaker 2: got Sean mcvayh. I know it's not my money, but
Speaker 2: if the goal is to win a super Bowl, the
Speaker 2: next two years with Matthew Stafford certainly seemed like a
Speaker 2: whole lot more attainable than the next three or four
Speaker 2: years with Jimmy Garoppolo or Sam Darnold or Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: or whoever you want to throw into in the mix. There,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce is coming back for another year and falling
Speaker 2: into the same trap that we hear from athletes all
Speaker 2: the time. I can't go out this way. Well, it
Speaker 2: might not get any better. In fact, it might get
Speaker 2: worse that you won't get to a super Bowl. But
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce is coming back for one more season. Miles
Speaker 2: Garrett doesn't want to sign a contract extension at one
Speaker 2: At some point, the Browns have to go, Okay, what
Speaker 2: can we get for Miles Garrett? What makes the most
Speaker 2: sense for us? Do we trade down? You trade Miles Garrett?
Speaker 2: You get picks. You know you got the second pick
Speaker 2: on the draft. Do you trade down from that? Are
Speaker 2: you sold on cam Ward? Are you sold on Shradoor Sanders?
Speaker 2: Because if you're not, and you're sold on Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: or you're sold on somebody else there. If not, get
Speaker 2: out of there. Because the Browns have been bad at drafting.
Speaker 2: When they had all those picks, they were bad. It's
Speaker 2: one thing to have them, it's another thing to utilize
Speaker 2: them and make sure that those guys stick with your team.
Speaker 2: But Miles Garrett doesn't want to be there and won't
Speaker 2: sign a contract extension. The combine is rolling along on
Speaker 2: field activities all weekend, and you have teams that are
Speaker 2: meeting with Travis Hunter. And the question is, Travis, you
Speaker 2: want to play both ways? You want to play full
Speaker 2: time defense, full time offense. Will teams allow him to
Speaker 2: do that? Teams are bringing him in as a wide receiver,
Speaker 2: interviewing him as a wide receiver, which I find interesting,
Speaker 2: others as a defensive back. But here is Travis Hunter,
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy winner. On playing both ways.
Speaker 8: I mean, nobody has done it, but I feel like
Speaker 8: I'll put my body through a lot.
Speaker 2: I do a lot of treatment.
Speaker 8: People that get to see that part what I do
Speaker 8: for my body to make show them one hundred percent
Speaker 8: easy game. But I feel like they can do the
Speaker 8: don't nobody have done it? And I know I could
Speaker 8: do I did at college level, which the game is,
Speaker 8: you know, we really get we rarely get breaks in
Speaker 8: There's a lot more breaks in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't understand that. And Dion brought that up
Speaker 2: to me at the Super Bowl, that you get more
Speaker 2: breaks in the college game. That he they used the
Speaker 2: expression the game is slowed down. Now, it's not the game,
Speaker 2: you know, on the field speed, it's the actual game
Speaker 2: that commercial breaks. I'm guessing that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's saying that college that you know,
Speaker 2: the sport is faster on the field. You know, college
Speaker 2: games take four hours. But can I see him playing
Speaker 2: sixty plays on defense and forty on offense. Maybe if
Speaker 2: I'm drafting him, I'm using him. I'm going to use
Speaker 2: him the best way I can. If he's one of
Speaker 2: the best players on my team. I don't want him
Speaker 2: on the sidelines when he would give us some kind
Speaker 2: of a benefit by putting him out there. And he's
Speaker 2: not a structured wide receiver. He's just an athletic guy.
Speaker 2: Once he understands running rounds, I mean, that's what they talk.
Speaker 2: His scouts have already brought this up you know, you
Speaker 2: got to be more structured and running your past patterns here.
Speaker 2: He knows all of these things, but he's already a
Speaker 2: great defensive back. I got to have him out there
Speaker 2: full time there and then you just have to say,
Speaker 2: be honest with me when you want to come out
Speaker 2: of the game. But I would go all in. If
Speaker 2: I'm drafting him, I'm using him. Yeah, Paul, I didn't
Speaker 2: understand the thing with breaks either. Dean brought it up
Speaker 2: to us and Travis. The average over the past ten years,
Speaker 2: the average NFL game is three hours and twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: The average college football game is three hours and twenty
Speaker 2: four minutes. The halftime in college is eight minutes longer,
Speaker 2: so halftime rest and you get one extra commercial break
Speaker 2: per half in college compared to the NFL. You know, So,
Speaker 2: what's he mean? I don't know. The NFL's quicker. I
Speaker 2: mean they want to get it done in a three
Speaker 2: hour ish window. A lot of college college games feel
Speaker 2: like they go four hours.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Marvin, do you think a lot of teams in
Speaker 3: the Big twelve are maybe running a no huddle offense.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing I can possibly think of, Because
Speaker 3: you guys are right about the time. So I don't know,
Speaker 3: Colorado didn't run a no huddle offense, but I just
Speaker 3: met more so he was saying about taking breaks on defense.
Speaker 2: So what pole question? We're going to stay with this
Speaker 2: pole question seating for hour two.
Speaker 7: I think we're gonna let this one ride for a
Speaker 7: little bit, mostly because I want to see if I
Speaker 7: can get that show hey number down?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, you're lobbying. You're lobbying behind my back.
Speaker 2: I don't want to make sure that by the end
Speaker 2: we by the time we take it down.
Speaker 7: Is that quite as much of a landslide as all?
Speaker 2: Did I mention it's a meat Friday? Did I mention?
Speaker 2: What's on the menu? We have smoke, baby back, ribs,
Speaker 2: mac and cheese, coleslaw. Who has it better.
Speaker 1: Than we do?
Speaker 2: No body? Nobody? All right? A couple of phone calls
Speaker 2: in here, Donovan in Iowa, Hi Donovan, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: Hey Dan?
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Speaker 10: Dan, yeah your full question? HERE i gotta go With.
Speaker 10: Curry he is so much. BETTER i, mean the devil
Speaker 10: Name curry is haunting us for The. OLYMPICS i, mean
Speaker 10: can't get you better than? That his whole life really
Speaker 10: has been. GREAT i mean he's got his, dad HIS nba,
Speaker 10: player his. BROTHERS i, mean he's just living the. Life
Speaker 10: He's curry. Man so that's my, opinion all.
Speaker 2: Right AS i, said there's no wrong answer if you, said,
Speaker 2: hey you're gonna Be Patrick mahomes', career, okay or you're
Speaker 2: gonna Be Steph curry or Shoeyo. TANI i mean IF i,
Speaker 2: go would you rather have The? Porsche would you rather
Speaker 2: have The maserati or The. Ferrari that's really what this.
Speaker 2: Is let's See dave In. Washington, Hi, dave what's on your?
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Speaker 2: Where you're like to try as it once his when all,
Speaker 2: right we'll take a. Break he is, uh he's the
Speaker 2: man who revolutionized the shoe. INDUSTRY i think he should
Speaker 2: be in The Basketball hall Of fame as a. Contributor
Speaker 2: and he Signed Michael jordan to that Landmark nike. Deal
Speaker 2: Sonny butkaro's got a new. Book we'll talk to him
Speaker 2: coming up right after This Dan patrick.
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Speaker 2: Rich Sonny vacaro has a. Book it's Called legends And,
Speaker 2: souls The memoir of An American. Original it's just been
Speaker 2: released available online wherever books are. SOLD a little background
Speaker 2: here On. SONNY i THINK i Met sonny in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2: THREE i covered his basketball camp when it was In
Speaker 2: New jersey and it was also part of A tv
Speaker 2: show AT cnn With. Sonny we did a college basketball
Speaker 2: show and he was a great resource for me over the.
Speaker 2: Years WHENEVER i needed something set, straight or there was
Speaker 2: a rumor about a coaching, change somebody getting hired, FIRED
Speaker 2: i always went To, sonny And sonny would always if
Speaker 2: he knew something then he would tell me he'd set me.
Speaker 2: Straight and we've stayed in touch for whatever forty years,
Speaker 2: now and SO i knew that story about when he
Speaker 2: was Getting Michael. Jordan Michael jordan Was Mike jordan At
Speaker 2: North carolina and hit the shot that won the national
Speaker 2: title Against. Georgetown Now sonny's, Job sonny was trying to Grow.
Speaker 2: Nike nike was a running shoe, company And sonny went all.
Speaker 2: In Bob knight Saw Michael jordan and, said that guy's
Speaker 2: going to be the greatest basketball player of all. Time
Speaker 2: and you Had adidas And, converse who were the big
Speaker 2: shoe companies at the. Time adidas big shoe, company And
Speaker 2: converse had been established for quite some time prior to.
Speaker 2: That But sonny realized that they had a budget and
Speaker 2: he was, saying use the entire budget On Michael. Jordan
Speaker 2: so he goes To Phil, knight THE ceo Of, nike,
Speaker 2: says put all the money here on that. Guy i'm
Speaker 2: betting on that. Guy, Well sonny's had a lot of
Speaker 2: different lives in this. Business he got fired By, nike
Speaker 2: he went To, adidas he Signed kobe to his first shoe.
Speaker 2: Deal sonny, was you, know friends With kobe's, Dad, joe
Speaker 2: who played In, italy and then he went TO. Uh
Speaker 2: he was trying to Get. Lebron he thought he Had
Speaker 2: lebron and there's a great chapter in the book where
Speaker 2: their meeting In malibu and he thinks he's going to
Speaker 2: Sign Lebron james to his first, deal And sonny Tells
Speaker 2: lebron's mother it's going to be one hundred million dollar.
Speaker 2: Deal it's going to be a ten, year one hundred
Speaker 2: million dollar. Deal she starts crying like this is and
Speaker 2: then they go into the. Meeting sonny thinks he has
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars to play with With Lebron, james
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden realizes That adidas is giving
Speaker 2: a certainly a lot less than that with some incentives in,
Speaker 2: there and you, know And sonny even, said you, know
Speaker 2: go go To. NIKE i can't help you. Here go
Speaker 2: get the better. Deal and he's also the guy who
Speaker 2: helped bring about, name image and likeness for athletes The
Speaker 2: ed O'Bannon, case And sonny was very integral in years
Speaker 2: trying to get that case heard against THE ncaa so
Speaker 2: players could get. Paid it's been a, long long, career crazy.
Speaker 2: Career sonny vccaro joins us on the. Program, sonny congratulations
Speaker 2: on the. Book really well.
Speaker 11: Done it's been SOMETHING i wanted to do all my
Speaker 11: life and postponed it because my life KEPT i was
Speaker 11: doing something. Else and then After obannon that really gave
Speaker 11: me the. Impetus how much more COULD i? Do AND
Speaker 11: i want to say. It i'm proud of. It i'm
Speaker 11: not afraid of, It, dan not afraid of. It all
Speaker 11: everything we said in, THERE i can back up with
Speaker 11: facts not.
Speaker 2: Fiction what's the story you say for the?
Speaker 11: BOOK i think the ending of my relationship With michael
Speaker 11: is much more powerful than the, beginning because the ending
Speaker 11: shows we just come back From europe on a ten
Speaker 11: day you, know travel, trip you, know Publicizing, michael you
Speaker 11: Know pam And, auer you know you saw the pictures and.
Speaker 11: Everything we come. Home they asked me to do one
Speaker 11: more thing for the signing With, michael you, know the
Speaker 11: autographs for THE nba and all that With Mijic, johnson
Speaker 11: THAT i go in for that, meeting and then three days,
Speaker 11: later after all, that that last you, know month of
Speaker 11: my life With, NIKE i get. BETRAYED i think that
Speaker 11: had to be. Told there was never told. Before they didn't,
Speaker 11: know you, know they didn't know that the story was
Speaker 11: already written for, me even WHEN i went To, europe
Speaker 11: even WHEN i did the last most important things THAT
Speaker 11: i could have done With.
Speaker 2: Jordan here's Where i'm, Confused, Sonny Phil, KNIGHT ceo Of,
Speaker 2: nike comes off really petty in the, book and it
Speaker 2: feels Like Mychael jordan turned his back on what was,
Speaker 2: real the real, story and you signing. Him but you
Speaker 2: do say in the book That michael said he doesn't
Speaker 2: have a problem with, you but he still could have
Speaker 2: spoken up and told the. Truth how much does it
Speaker 2: hurt with what feels Like Phil knight was trying to
Speaker 2: rewrite history.
Speaker 11: HERE i knew what was going to happen when he
Speaker 11: stoked his memoir in nineteen eighty, seven when he still
Speaker 11: he's still. Living that was a long time, ago and
Speaker 11: he stopped WHERE i got really involved With michael for
Speaker 11: all the things you'll read in a book that, hurt
Speaker 11: the lives that were, perpetrated you know by you, know
Speaker 11: you Know michael had no reason to do this except
Speaker 11: he had ONCE i was let. GO i, Mean michael
Speaker 11: AND i were closer THAN i am to anyone in that.
Speaker 11: World you know that the world would know that all
Speaker 11: the Athletes i've been, around and Including kobe and, whatever
Speaker 11: we we were actually together for seven years traveling the.
Speaker 11: World when you read the, book you know the opening
Speaker 11: Things michael hurt me because he didn't have to do.
Speaker 11: It and when you read when the chapter where he almost,
Speaker 11: left he almost, Left so it was that close THAT
Speaker 11: i was still involved With. Michael that Hurt raveling's just
Speaker 11: a bad human being who was my biggest you know
Speaker 11: hurt in the world because it was so, personal you,
Speaker 11: know it was personal and it turned out as life,
Speaker 11: continued you, KNOW i am able to say WHAT i
Speaker 11: said about, him you, know in a special chapter because
Speaker 11: he was. Deceitful he didn't Hurt Sonny. Vako he hurt
Speaker 11: the world that he lived in as far as dealing
Speaker 11: with athletes and being honest and being portrayed in other
Speaker 11: situations as being an honest. Person those three guys all
Speaker 11: had a different. Hurt But michael always had this affinity
Speaker 11: for because other than you, Know Levant, knight Olviously Levant, Raveling,
Speaker 11: nike you, Know nike was just a part of me And.
Speaker 11: Michael there were personal things in there that that you,
Speaker 11: know that airplane ride or he played gin for ten.
Speaker 11: HOURS i had MANY i. HAD i arranged his birthday
Speaker 11: party In Las. VEGAS i opened up the gates for
Speaker 11: him In Las, vegas you, know because he liked the
Speaker 11: golf and you, know do whatever else he, did but
Speaker 11: that was. Personal that one's still. PERSONAL i don't have
Speaker 11: the same you, know feelings For michael THAT i do
Speaker 11: For raveling And, night that's for. SURE i still you,
Speaker 11: know he he did great. Things it's a shame that
Speaker 11: he forgot where he.
Speaker 2: Started, Yeah George traveling was best man at your wedding
Speaker 2: and a friend for a long time former college, coach
Speaker 2: and went to work For. Nike uh after you were
Speaker 2: let go so uh and you wait till the very
Speaker 2: end of the, book and even there's some trepidation where
Speaker 2: we're even going to write About George raveling and your.
Speaker 2: Relationship but let me go back To Michael. Jordan we're
Speaker 2: talking To Sonny. Vicaro the book Is legends And, souls
Speaker 2: the memoir of An american, original available wherever books are.
Speaker 2: Sold what happens To nike If michael doesn't sign With,
Speaker 2: Nike jame.
Speaker 11: Said match, OVER i honestly believe. It there's no reason
Speaker 11: to be other than pretend That mike The nike would
Speaker 11: have been. Successful there was nothing on the agenda that was.
Speaker 11: Successful we were. There this was the last role of the, Dice,
Speaker 11: Dan this was they were going all in and they
Speaker 11: didn't know, It.
Speaker 2: But adidas would They what Would Mikey michael have done To.
Speaker 11: ADIDAS i don't think it ever would have happened the
Speaker 11: way it. Happened he still would have Been, michael but
Speaker 11: he's still with the other. Guys he'd have been camouflaged by.
Speaker 11: Them he never would have gotten this. Opportunity they're signing
Speaker 11: With nike and then us promoting, him and then we
Speaker 11: were the only show for. Him otherwise all the things
Speaker 11: From nike went right To. Jordan it wouldn't have happened
Speaker 11: to the. Dus they had great, players and so Did
Speaker 11: conference to defend him in some. Way they were stupid,
Speaker 11: now but they weren't that stupid in nineteen eighty. Four
Speaker 11: it was a business. Decision no, one Including SONNY i
Speaker 11: just knew he was the only one to bet the
Speaker 11: money on the other guys weren't worth it for whatever.
Speaker 11: Reason you, KNOW i go into. THAT i JUST i
Speaker 11: don't think And i'll look foolish baby to your. Audience
Speaker 11: and this isn't the. GRIEF i, mean it's just. Fact
Speaker 11: if you look at the, books you'll see that there
Speaker 11: was no money. Left that's. All what the hell are
Speaker 11: they going to? Do?
Speaker 2: YEAH i wonder what it would have done to the
Speaker 2: global shoe industry as.
Speaker 11: Well, well that's the best QUESTION i think we're to
Speaker 11: saw because none of the signings after that by the,
Speaker 11: athletes you, know getting, right the Seth curry to where
Speaker 11: we are today and all the girls now getting. That
Speaker 11: it would have taken time because no one was betting
Speaker 11: on one. Person there was no person that crossed over that,
Speaker 11: line not the financial, line the, black the white, line
Speaker 11: the media. Line we found a hero that was. Unbelievable
Speaker 11: then the commercials were. PERFECT i doubt if anybody Else
Speaker 11: Spike lee doesn't generate Towards michael the other guys like
Speaker 11: he would have he Did Michael Jordan's all the things
Speaker 11: happened like right in a, sequence like it was a
Speaker 11: story already written and it's at so fail. Pros none of,
Speaker 11: these none of these other companies would have done. IT i,
Speaker 11: MEAN i don't.
Speaker 2: Believe did you know That Nike michael was going to
Speaker 2: get fined when he wore the black and red shoes
Speaker 2: and he was told that he COULDN'T i KNEW i
Speaker 2: was a marketing ploy By. Nike, no, YEAH i.
Speaker 11: Knew, it you, know as quickly as anyway Except Robin.
Speaker 11: Peter they they've told me everything about, it AND i was.
Speaker 11: Erwin you Know rob's said we'll pay the. Fines, yeah
Speaker 11: that was that was a kick him. In he asked
Speaker 11: thing By Rob. Strausser they, said all, right we'll pay
Speaker 11: the dang, thing you, know the five thousand whatever it.
Speaker 11: Was and that to him and his personality, Said we're not,
Speaker 11: Stopping we're going all. In that's we did that all
Speaker 11: in thing a few times that you didn't see the.
Speaker 11: Movie and where you Know rob And, peter you know
Speaker 11: where the brains behind. THIS i, WAS i was the
Speaker 11: glue maybe.
Speaker 2: Whatever did you have the same feeling About lebron that
Speaker 2: you Did michael when you first saw, Him.
Speaker 11: No it was a whole. DIFFERENT i Saw lebron three
Speaker 11: years earlier Than. MICHAEL i knew him as a fifteen year.
Speaker 11: OLD i watched him WHEN i traveled To San francisco
Speaker 11: to see him personally when he. INVITED i was in
Speaker 11: his house as a, youngster not as a grown man
Speaker 11: in his. Twenties So, No, Lebron lebron And kobe were totally.
Speaker 11: Different and you know my. APPROACH i knew. Them kobe's
Speaker 11: going back to his parents And lebron going back to the,
Speaker 11: origins SO i knew these two kids were pretty. Good
Speaker 11: and mcgrady's the only other one THAT i had a
Speaker 11: sense of, appealing you, know because now the kids are,
Speaker 11: seventeen eighteen and, Nineteen i've got to make a. Decision
Speaker 11: michael was still twenty, two you. Know he was an
Speaker 11: older guy and played in The National, championship so he
Speaker 11: was a known. Commodity these kids.
Speaker 2: Weren't we're talking To Sonny. Vacera the new Book legends And,
Speaker 2: souls available wherever you buy your, books AND i want
Speaker 2: people to understand. This i've known you for a long,
Speaker 2: time over forty. Years your best accomplishment is Marrying. Pam
Speaker 2: but after, that you Signed, michael you Signed, kobe you
Speaker 2: nearly Signed. Lebron but then what you did With edobannon
Speaker 2: and taking on THE ncaa is really your legacy and
Speaker 2: should be your legacy because you paved the way with
Speaker 2: the help Of ed, O'Bannon FORMER ucla great to allow
Speaker 2: players to get. Paid you help usher in, name image and,
Speaker 2: likeness and not without a long. Fight, man you should
Speaker 2: be commended that you went to bat for him and
Speaker 2: that Ed ed trusted, you that you would represent him
Speaker 2: correctly so that that is a there's a lot of
Speaker 2: time devoted in the, book and rightfully, so because that
Speaker 2: is a landmark decision on your part and because of,
Speaker 2: THAT i DON'T i know. You i've known you a
Speaker 2: long long. Time you should be in The Basketball hall
Speaker 2: Of fame as a. Contributor you should be.
Speaker 13: Yeah and should never did. Anything what AM i going
Speaker 13: to tell? YOU i can't Control, OKAY i. WOULD i
Speaker 13: would love. To i'd like to go to work on.
Speaker 13: It i'd like to be able to just tell The
Speaker 13: i'd like to remind people of contributions to the, game global. Impact,
Speaker 13: coaches coaches got, paid players are now getting, paid high school,
Speaker 13: kids high schoo coaches like all of. That this is
Speaker 13: When Michael jordan should step, up And i'm being serious
Speaker 13: and write a letter to The Basketball hall Of fame
Speaker 13: saying that you should be in.
Speaker 11: THERE i appreciate what you're saying and what other people have.
Speaker 11: Said you, know it's hard for the person you're talking
Speaker 11: about the. Situation you're.
Speaker 2: Humble you don't have to say, anything But i'll leave
Speaker 2: it at. THAT i hope that there's some representation who
Speaker 2: can help you get in good to talk to. You
Speaker 2: congrats some on the.
Speaker 11: Book thank you, Sir thank you very, much And god
Speaker 11: bless you in the. Family AND i hope we have
Speaker 11: dinner and a Good italian dinner In New.
Speaker 2: York Sonny Vicaro legends And, souls the memoir of An american.
Speaker 2: Original it's just released inovailable online wherever books are. Sold
Speaker 2: imagine all of these coaches and players if they got
Speaker 2: together and signed a petition what he meant for them.
Speaker 2: CHANGE i, Mean michael alone wrote a letter and just
Speaker 2: Said sonny should be in The Basketball Basketball hall Of.
Speaker 2: Fame contributions to the. Game he changed college, basketball he Changed,
Speaker 2: nike he changed the shoe. Business now you might, say you,
Speaker 2: know it's THE cd, underworld and you know all of
Speaker 2: That i've heard from. People, LOOK i love the. Man
Speaker 2: i've known him for forty years and his Wife. Pam
Speaker 2: so when you think about contributions to the, game to
Speaker 2: the game of, basketball his name is front and. Center
Speaker 2: it really.
Speaker 5: Is all.
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Speaker 2: week as we were heading into the combine with Cam
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Speaker 2: just sent out a Tweet Jackson dart aced his media
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Speaker 2: Jackson dart might be a late first round, pick or
Speaker 2: at least that's the feeling THAT i. Get, Yes, paul
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Speaker 2: This colin will probably spend a segment on at back.
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Speaker 2: Curry so Bonus Steph. Curry is it All Steph? Curry
Speaker 2: or is it other filling the? BLANKERS a couple of
Speaker 2: other topics just that are a little. Timely oh, OH
Speaker 2: i can't wait for next? Week, okay all, right you?
Speaker 2: Ready Steph curry is Blank todd ridiculous seatan Elite marvin
Speaker 2: got what does that? Mean like the greatest shoot, ever
Speaker 2: greatest of all, time gates of all. Time this week
Speaker 2: but it's he's not the greatest of. All he's the
Speaker 2: greatest shooter of all. Time he's the goat at. Something
Speaker 2: so he used to go go, shot go, shot don't go.
Speaker 2: Shot There's Steph, curry go. Shot, Uh Steph curry is,
Speaker 2: Blank paul. Underrated the most entertaining sports athlete in the
Speaker 2: last twenty years Is Blank. Todd i'm gonna Go steph recency, bias, Seating.
Speaker 14: Christiano, Ronaldo, Oh, Marvin Mike, Trout, oh will you, stop,
Speaker 14: guys Stop Paul steph by a.
Speaker 2: Mile, Yeah Travis kelcey returning to The chiefs for another,
Speaker 2: year Is Blank todd? Understandable seatan? Cool? Marvin, Sorry paul a.
Speaker 2: Mistake i'm gonna say. ADORABLE i. Don't it's the first
Speaker 2: word that came to. Mine it's. Adorable The Cleveland browns
Speaker 2: Should Blank todd, Rebuild seatan trade He marvin. Quit, no
Speaker 2: they can't quit as a.
Speaker 3: Franchise quit just.
Speaker 2: Quit they, Did paul trade? Everything, yeah, WELL i would
Speaker 2: Trade Miles garrett.
Speaker 14: All.
Speaker 2: Right it Was august of twenty. Fourteen Steph curry was
Speaker 2: on the. Show we talked about a variety of, things
Speaker 2: including who is a better offensive, player You Steph curry
Speaker 2: Or Lebron james.
Speaker 5: Better offensive? Player me Or. Lebron that's the first Time
Speaker 5: i've ever been asked that. Question, Me, okay you gotta be.
Speaker 2: Right, WELL i don't. KNOW i would assume you would
Speaker 2: think that you're you're a pure. Shooter he can, score
Speaker 2: you can, Too BUT i, think if you know what
Speaker 2: the correct answer, is Probably lebron is a better. Scorer
Speaker 2: BUT i think you're the better. Shooter so if how's, That,
Speaker 2: YEAH i don't, know.
Speaker 5: Because he, uh you, know he obviously demands a lot
Speaker 5: of attention on the. Floor BUT i like to SAY
Speaker 5: i can, distribute you, know get get my teammates.
Speaker 2: Involved and what about just putting points out as? Well
Speaker 2: what about? Points what IF i, said you go out
Speaker 2: and score as many as you want in the, game
Speaker 2: And lebron goes, out who scores?
Speaker 5: MORE i like to say myself would help me that.
Speaker 5: Situation IF i get a double, TEAM i can hopefully
Speaker 5: shoot from farther. Out and.
Speaker 2: That got a lot of reaction at the. Time now
Speaker 2: that's before his FIRST mvp or HIS, mvp and you,
Speaker 2: know that's almost eleven years ago that he said, that
Speaker 2: and he's, saying, HEY i might be known as a.
Speaker 2: Shooter i'm a. SCORER i Think lebron is the, Score
Speaker 2: steph is the. SHOOTER i mean that that's. Obvious but
Speaker 2: to DO i mean it's really really rarefied air what they,
Speaker 2: do both of. Them lebron's still doing it at a
Speaker 2: very high. Level and what is he four years older
Speaker 2: Than steph and he's asked to do more all around
Speaker 2: with his team Than steph. Is but just to Watch,
Speaker 2: steph you, know that's one of those where you should
Speaker 2: have A steph cam where you just have maybe ground,
Speaker 2: level where you just have the camera on him all,
Speaker 2: time because you'll realize how much energy it takes to
Speaker 2: do what he. Does and if you have the camera on,
Speaker 2: him you'll see how he's moving, about constantly. Moving it's
Speaker 2: really easy to guard somebody when they. Stand how ABOUT
Speaker 2: i put a camera On Steph curry and you just
Speaker 2: get an idea of what it's like changing. Lanes you,
Speaker 2: know he's on a highway just changing. Lanes, Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 3: And the difference between him and the other great shooters
Speaker 3: is he just wasn't a catch and shoot. Guy his
Speaker 3: handle is completely. Underrated he can shoot it off the.
Speaker 3: Dribble he can shoot it any way you want.
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i. Agree two hours in the, books it's
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