Speaker 1: You know, one of the best things that ever happened
Speaker 1: to me is that my mother died. Why was that?
Speaker 1: Because my mother would have bade me babies me. It's
Speaker 1: no way I would have ever gotten to this chief fights,
Speaker 1: no way I would have ever been learned to stand
Speaker 1: up for myself all my life. The running all my life,
Speaker 1: sacri fice, hustle back rising, Want a slice? Got the
Speaker 1: bron dice to swap all my life? I've been grinding
Speaker 1: all my life, all my life, the running all my life, sacrifice,
Speaker 1: hustle back prices, Want a slice? Got the dice to
Speaker 1: swap all my life? I've been running in all my life. Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am
Speaker 1: your whole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of Club Shasha.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that I have a podcast
Speaker 1: that I love doing a podcast is because of things
Speaker 1: like this. The guy that's stopping by for a drinking conversation.
Speaker 1: Maybe a smoke, but we're indoors and we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to smoke. Once was considered the baddest man on the planet.
Speaker 1: He the youngest heavyweight boxing champ, Iron Mike Tyson, Mike
Speaker 1: how we're doing I'm doing good. Let's talk about your podcast.
Speaker 1: You have a podcast called Hot Boxing. Yes, what type
Speaker 1: of guests do you have on and what do you
Speaker 1: talk about? I have any kind of guests in the
Speaker 1: world who's willing to come on, and it's wide open,
Speaker 1: wide open, so you talk about anything anything. You also
Speaker 1: have a cannabis company. Now, let me ask you this
Speaker 1: when you were fighting? Did you smoke marijuana when you
Speaker 1: were fighting? Only at the end of my career, okay,
Speaker 1: last the last two years of my career, faves. So
Speaker 1: did you ever think marijuana would be so embraced like
Speaker 1: it is now? And did you think Mike Tyson would
Speaker 1: one day own a cannabis company? I knew anything as possible,
Speaker 1: and I know like I know now, I know cannabis
Speaker 1: and TVD is the future, right, you can't avoid it.
Speaker 1: So had you known the benefits that you can get
Speaker 1: from marijuana, would you have smoked earlier in your career?
Speaker 1: I always kneed the benefits, but it was just illegal.
Speaker 1: It was just illegal. So at no point in time
Speaker 1: could you so even in the off season, you couldn't
Speaker 1: part take in marijuana. I can I understand, like getting
Speaker 1: ready for a fight. But let's just say in between fights,
Speaker 1: you know, when my mind is cut off, is cut off.
Speaker 1: I don't want it at all. If anything I love,
Speaker 1: like my m anything, it becomes my enemy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to see it. You're buck. That's how I got
Speaker 1: over the lead thing. But then I started smoking again
Speaker 1: back and I think, what eighty seven ninety seven? Right?
Speaker 1: So once you got back into it, it was harder
Speaker 1: for you to say, no, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: this anymore. I hadn't stopped anymore. You couldn't stop, or
Speaker 1: you didn't want to stop, or had you lost go ahead.
Speaker 1: I didn't stop. There's no way I was gonna stop it.
Speaker 1: I'm a totally different person without it than I am
Speaker 1: with it. I've heard you say that the person that
Speaker 1: you are now sometimes you don't like that person because
Speaker 1: this person that you are now makes you feel weak.
Speaker 1: Do you believe that you could have been a champion
Speaker 1: boxer back then if you were this person now? No? No,
Speaker 1: i'n this person. My My biggest ascess is all my
Speaker 1: flaws without my flaws. I'm not saying really absolutely. So
Speaker 1: back then you were so you you had a singular focus.
Speaker 1: You wanted to be heavyweight champion of the world. But
Speaker 1: also the things that made you great made you a
Speaker 1: very flawed individual. Well, there's not wrong with being flawed.
Speaker 1: There's only only things wrong with that if you don't
Speaker 1: know your flawed at the time. Did you know your flaws? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You know your flows when you're born with them. You
Speaker 1: can't hide something, you can't run something them. What do
Speaker 1: you think was your biggest flaw? What do you think
Speaker 1: your biggest flaw was just not training, not taking it
Speaker 1: serious anymore? But so that was that was in the beginning.
Speaker 1: You took it serious because I saw the documentary with
Speaker 1: you and cuss when you're up in the cat skills,
Speaker 1: going to the Olympics, becoming the youngest You don't become that, Mike,
Speaker 1: if you're not serious, if you're not training. But listen
Speaker 1: to them, I was beating guys so easy. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to train. I was beating them. I wasn't taking
Speaker 1: a serious and those are bad habits. So do you
Speaker 1: think if if you had lost earlier in your career,
Speaker 1: do you think it would have helped you become a
Speaker 1: better fighter. It was no way I was gonna ever
Speaker 1: lose early in my career. Why I was just some
Speaker 1: I was out. Hey, I was all defined by God.
Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna happen. Jamie Fox is set to portray
Speaker 1: your character in a limited series called Tyson. Is that
Speaker 1: project still set to go. Hey, I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about any pictures and stuff. I'm just I'm enjoying the
Speaker 1: moments I have Now. Is Mike Tyson misunderstood? I think
Speaker 1: we all are. Nobody knows who we are, Nobody knows
Speaker 1: our shadows, nobody know anything about our collective consciousness of
Speaker 1: uncollective because no one knows anything about anyone. What is it?
Speaker 1: I think, well, what is the best, biggest misconception that
Speaker 1: people have about Mike Tyson? I never knew they had one.
Speaker 1: So the person that we see or the person that
Speaker 1: we think we know that's who you are. I can
Speaker 1: another be that person because I actually don't know who
Speaker 1: I am. If I knew who I was, I would
Speaker 1: be a very limited thinking person at this stage of
Speaker 1: my life. If you tell me, at fifty five years old,
Speaker 1: I know who I am, you don't know how it happened. Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I know it's not gonna go any higher than that.
Speaker 1: This is who I am. Okay, maybe we don't know
Speaker 1: the future, but I think I would like to think
Speaker 1: at fifty five years of age, you have a better
Speaker 1: understanding who Mike Tyson is then say when you were fifteen,
Speaker 1: Say when you were twenty five or forty, or when
Speaker 1: I was sick, when I become sixty. We all change
Speaker 1: in stages of our life. Do you like the person
Speaker 1: that you're changing into? Because obviously you say you're different
Speaker 1: at twenty than you weren't thirty, than you weren't forty,
Speaker 1: and you're fifty five. So do you like the evolution
Speaker 1: of Mike Tyson? Well, it isn't over yet. Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: is gonna be Mike Tyson. It's not that I'm leveling
Speaker 1: of something. I just sam, But you're constantly evolving. Would
Speaker 1: you agree we have to that's him and nature? Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I am. But do you I know some
Speaker 1: people of changing into things they don't like, they don't
Speaker 1: like what they're becoming. It seems to me that in
Speaker 1: the beginning you didn't like who that person was, but
Speaker 1: you seem to be more at peace with who this
Speaker 1: person is. I would say that's true. What I was
Speaker 1: some of the documentary and I found your documentary very
Speaker 1: fascinating because I think a lot of our childhood shapes
Speaker 1: who inevitably we become as adults, sometimes for the goods,
Speaker 1: sometimes for the bad. Do you think if you'd had
Speaker 1: a two parent household, a mom and dad, brother and
Speaker 1: a sister, loving family, you could have became the heavyweight
Speaker 1: champion of the world. You know what, Mrs Sharp? You
Speaker 1: know one of the best things that ever happened to
Speaker 1: me is that my mother died. Why was that? Because
Speaker 1: because my mother would have bade me babies me, It's
Speaker 1: no way I would have ever gotten to the chief fight,
Speaker 1: No way I would have ever been learned to stand
Speaker 1: up for myself. But what but what? Well, here's the thing, though, Mike,
Speaker 1: when your mom wasn't around me, you probably wasn't still
Speaker 1: going to encounter some of the people that you had
Speaker 1: to stand up and protect yourself against. But it was
Speaker 1: ordained by guard for me to deal with that. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't navigate my life. You think I think I
Speaker 1: navigate my life to be in a heavyweight champion. No,
Speaker 1: I don't do that. That's God. Let me ask your question.
Speaker 1: It seems to me now, Mike, you're you're you're very
Speaker 1: devout in your faith. When did you become like this? Listen,
Speaker 1: when you get around fifty one citty two, you start
Speaker 1: you start to begin a better relationship with God. Okay,
Speaker 1: because your expiration data's coming up, who said it is?
Speaker 1: It might not? You might live another fifty one years,
Speaker 1: A fifty two years. That's not happening. How do you
Speaker 1: know you hold on? You just told me earlier that
Speaker 1: it's ordained by God. You don't know that's what you
Speaker 1: told me earlier. I'm gonna be no. One hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty years though that's not gonna happen. What about a
Speaker 1: hundred Anything is possible, but I'm not gonna one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty years. When did you realize that you you
Speaker 1: could become heavyweight champion? When I was fourteen and so
Speaker 1: what made you think you become you could become heavyweight
Speaker 1: champion of the world. Well, I had a great mentor,
Speaker 1: and he always told me he's to have me do affirmation.
Speaker 1: So it seems to me, Mike, You're like, at a
Speaker 1: young age, you were easily convinced. He could have probably
Speaker 1: told you could fly on space ship and he was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll fly on space ship abred percent. So so okay,
Speaker 1: at fourteen because conbistion or you start boxing he combition,
Speaker 1: you can become heavyweight champion of the world. I start
Speaker 1: winning the national championship, I started breaking knockout records, and
Speaker 1: I went to the I lost to the to the
Speaker 1: Olympic gold medal and the box office, box office in Texas,
Speaker 1: and then eventually I became heavyweight chan Once I turned
Speaker 1: in through, my whole life started changing. Started beating everybody,
Speaker 1: beating him, yes, viciously, and then everything has changed and
Speaker 1: I became champions. So you were supposed to go to
Speaker 1: the eighty four Olympics. I'm I correct, Yes, and that
Speaker 1: was arguably the greatest team. Yes, sweet Pee Whitaker, Mildred Taylor,
Speaker 1: credible team in mortals man, Yes, the best, Yes, I
Speaker 1: think that, if I'm not mistaken. I think they won
Speaker 1: nine goals or the twelve that was contested. I think
Speaker 1: they won a silver at lebronze. Man, Listen, they were
Speaker 1: playing around. Let's take the current state of the heavyweight division.
Speaker 1: Let's just say I take a prime Mike Tyson, what
Speaker 1: do you say your prime your prime age was? How
Speaker 1: old were you when you say Mike Tyson is at
Speaker 1: his absolute apex twenty two. Okay, Mike Tyson at twenty
Speaker 1: two years of age? How does Mike Tyson beat Tyson Fury?
Speaker 1: That would be tough. But you know there was guys
Speaker 1: that dropped him that was lighter than me. What was
Speaker 1: the gentleman that dropped him? Then? With that black guy? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: the form of crusueight champ so and he's not a
Speaker 1: harder puncher than I am. So I'm able to hurt
Speaker 1: the big guys, right, but you gotta get inside to
Speaker 1: get him. He's six foot nine and a half with
Speaker 1: a tremendous reach. How does Mike Tyson get inside? I'll
Speaker 1: try my best and do whatever I know how to do.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Let's just say you're
Speaker 1: a boxing trainer and the bronze bomber comes to you
Speaker 1: and say, man, look here, I need one more crack
Speaker 1: at Tyson Fury. I need you to train me to
Speaker 1: beat this man. How do you do it? Going with
Speaker 1: your jab? He has to go all out for twelve
Speaker 1: rounds with him. Can't give him no room the punch.
Speaker 1: He has to go all out the twelve rounds with him.
Speaker 1: He can't give him no time by moving around, can't
Speaker 1: allow him to think. He allows Tyson theory to think
Speaker 1: a right right, give him a lot of Let me
Speaker 1: ask you question. Is it because he got into the
Speaker 1: game so late that he's looking to load up with
Speaker 1: that one punch? But like the boxes that came from
Speaker 1: an amateur's background, they understand, Okay, I gotta stick the jab,
Speaker 1: I gotta stick the jab. But it seems to me
Speaker 1: he's just looking to land that one overhand right to
Speaker 1: turn the lights out of the party. But most of
Speaker 1: the guys that he's fighting are not very elusive, so
Speaker 1: it's easy to hit him. So he's very confident when
Speaker 1: he hits him, he's gonna knocks them out right. Are
Speaker 1: you are you surprised that the fights went the way
Speaker 1: they went. I'm always entertainment. Those guys fight, I think
Speaker 1: table while they should fight some other guys too. He'll
Speaker 1: be doing he'll do good man. I ain't on him.
Speaker 1: I ain't don't want him to get discouraged. He should
Speaker 1: be very happy to be ready to fight somebody else
Speaker 1: right away. So would you think do you think it'll
Speaker 1: be a better fight between Deonte Water and Josh and
Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua. I would love to see that fight. Yes,
Speaker 1: because both both guys, both guys are are heavy punchers.
Speaker 1: I think Joshua, they gonna singing, They're gonna be winging.
Speaker 1: They ain't gonna be much style, They're gonna be winging.
Speaker 1: What about this, this this new thing that's fighting? Were
Speaker 1: and you protecting one of them? But you guys will
Speaker 1: fighting uh Roy Jones Junior and yourself? What was your
Speaker 1: thought process going into that fight? Were you trying to
Speaker 1: could you? Could you? Were you trying to knock Royal? No?
Speaker 1: I would never try to note for it. But we're exparting,
Speaker 1: we're fighting. But the thing as we started a new
Speaker 1: general Now we got guys like Logan Paul doing it right.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about that? What do you
Speaker 1: think about Logan Paul? I think Logan Paul is a
Speaker 1: big shot in the arm for boxing. No boxing never
Speaker 1: brought that many people to the network. Like I'm Logan
Speaker 1: Paul dead and I think he's good for boxing. He
Speaker 1: brings money to boxing. But don't you want to see
Speaker 1: him fight like a fighter and not fight ex football players,
Speaker 1: ex basketball players, x MLA guys. I mean to give
Speaker 1: it credibility. Mike, he's gonna have to fight someone in
Speaker 1: that genre. I think he should too. But these guys
Speaker 1: a very so emotional. They want to fight him so
Speaker 1: so bad they could get They either train fighting right
Speaker 1: right so, and he's gonna make them believe that they
Speaker 1: could really beat this guy because he's white with blonde
Speaker 1: their blue eye. I'm gonna kill them. And then they
Speaker 1: go on the ring and then something different happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what different happens is that they get touched. You. You had,
Speaker 1: you had the famous you had the famous saying. Everybody
Speaker 1: has a plan until they get hit. Everybody says, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this. I'm gonna bob, I'm gonna weave, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna faint. And then he catches me like, hold on,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that didn't happen. They're sleeping. They're sleeping,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at guys and I give the one assignment.
Speaker 1: Do not become a mean Mike. How did they let
Speaker 1: the man put them face down in the on the canvas.
Speaker 1: Ain't listen that happens in fighting. I don't care how
Speaker 1: good you are, how great you are, if that don't
Speaker 1: happen to you at some time, in your career, then
Speaker 1: you're not really a fighter. Are you surprised that obviously
Speaker 1: you were? You were the biggest name in boxing and
Speaker 1: you made a lot of money. Are you surprised that
Speaker 1: the guys are not as active as you? I mean
Speaker 1: you fought one year. I think you fought like thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen fights in a year. Guys fight now once a year,
Speaker 1: maybe once every sixteen months. That's really bad for boxing
Speaker 1: because Boxton's entertainment right in the name of the game.
Speaker 1: You want the fans say, when am I gonna see
Speaker 1: that guy fight again? Right? Until you get it, until
Speaker 1: you happen like that. You're not gonna make the take
Speaker 1: perse state until it's until the time comes for the
Speaker 1: guy like I was. Spence is known to a house fight,
Speaker 1: take it house like a maid, right if they know
Speaker 1: that's whe they know he made it. Well. The thing
Speaker 1: with you, Mike, is that you were willing to fight.
Speaker 1: You will fight a Holy Field, You fight a Razor Ruddick,
Speaker 1: You fought Bruce Seldon, you fought Frank Bruno. I actually
Speaker 1: saw the Frank Bruno fight that you fought, Uh, the
Speaker 1: second Frank Bruno fight. These guys now seem to be
Speaker 1: more concerned with undefeated as opposed to fighting. Earl Spence
Speaker 1: supposed to fight Bud Crawford. I'm tired of you fighting
Speaker 1: over here and you fighting over there, fight each other, listen.
Speaker 1: And I'm not able gonna say anything disrespectful about fighting.
Speaker 1: But some people they have enough tried to say, listen,
Speaker 1: I want to go on the tour being the best
Speaker 1: fighter in the world who wants to fight me? Right.
Speaker 1: But the difference is, Mike, is that you was willing
Speaker 1: to fight, and you were willing to put undefeated on
Speaker 1: the line. But let me ask you this, let me
Speaker 1: take it from this approach. If I say, Mike, you
Speaker 1: can fight John John Johnson and make forty million, or
Speaker 1: you can fight the number one contender and fight forty million,
Speaker 1: or the number fifteen contender and make forty million. Which
Speaker 1: one You're gonna choose this one? And so that, Mike,
Speaker 1: that's what we're seeing. That's what's happening with boxing. We
Speaker 1: want to see the best fight the best, and we're
Speaker 1: in the eighties haggling. Couldn't Dark hearns, hearns, couldn't Dark Letter,
Speaker 1: he couldn't have Dark the rain Dog. I ran Barkley, Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: he had four ft durand lost to Duran. Maybe Durant
Speaker 1: quit give a to fight Timmy Herns. He went up
Speaker 1: then wait, won the Junior motherweight championship, came back and
Speaker 1: then be Timmy home. Tommy Hernson unified to walked away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's bad ass. And you look at the seventies when
Speaker 1: the big heavyweight kid Norton, George far Him and Joe Frazier,
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali. There was no ducking. You couldn't duck anybody
Speaker 1: to fight you in six weeks after one fight six
Speaker 1: weeks later to fight you again. Yes, so why why
Speaker 1: can't do You think that's one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: boxing is losing some of his peel appeal. And we
Speaker 1: get guys that are YouTubers go fight YouTubers to take
Speaker 1: because they're exciting. They're more exciting more so than they
Speaker 1: can't fight. But they're more exciting, right than the fighters.
Speaker 1: Fighters are not fighting competitive fighters. They fighting guys that
Speaker 1: they're walking over. So you want to, you want to.
Speaker 1: You would like to see Earl Spence Junior and Bud
Speaker 1: Crawford fight, absolutely, And I want to see Errol Spence
Speaker 1: go up to one hundred and fifty four and fight
Speaker 1: Cello brother too. These guys can't be These guys gotta
Speaker 1: want to be immortal. I wanted to be immortal. I
Speaker 1: want the world and know my name to the end
Speaker 1: of the time. But I don't look at life. But
Speaker 1: it seems to me guys want to Guys want to
Speaker 1: get the big payday, but they don't want to fight
Speaker 1: the other big pay day fighters. They want to try
Speaker 1: to pick and choose and duck and dodge. It's like
Speaker 1: I worried about I worried about Undefeated. These guys are
Speaker 1: not making that much money because they're not fighting those guys.
Speaker 1: Right These guys are not making five four million dollars
Speaker 1: and three jim and they're not making that much money
Speaker 1: because they're not fighting the right guy. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question, who do you think powder for powder
Speaker 1: is the best fighter right now? Wow, that's tough. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of them out there. You have to go
Speaker 1: with Canello, but there's still something to young up to
Speaker 1: come in light with. I don't look almost on his
Speaker 1: way out. They got some other guy. And what better
Speaker 1: VT is he's a great fighter coming up. He'll be
Speaker 1: a great man. There's so many great fighters out there, man,
Speaker 1: But that's one thing. They had great fighters out there.
Speaker 1: But who do you think? Do you think there's anyone
Speaker 1: out there right now that can beat Canelo? Because he's
Speaker 1: gone from one fifty four to one fifty to one
Speaker 1: fifty eight. He basically wiped out three four divisions. It's
Speaker 1: some new guys out there that the young man David
Speaker 1: bena Vide I call him the Manster. He's tough. I
Speaker 1: would love to see him Canelo fight him. You think
Speaker 1: that fighter happened? God willing man. If it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: it'll be an it'll be a shame of boxing. What
Speaker 1: about if Canelo fight wanted Charlotte Brothers. That will be
Speaker 1: a very interesting fight too. So that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of m that he's a big money fights you're talking about, right,
Speaker 1: But I thought that's what you get, don't you get into? Obviously,
Speaker 1: you want to make a name for yourself, you want
Speaker 1: to go out of the the all time great. But I
Speaker 1: thought it the objective in a sport is to make money, exactly.
Speaker 1: And know what, these guys hang around like their buddies.
Speaker 1: It's either your buddy and fights. You help me make
Speaker 1: some money. But here is the thing though I got,
Speaker 1: I got. I'm unblemished on my resume, though he might
Speaker 1: put a blemish on my resume. And then you're gonna
Speaker 1: look at me different and say I'm not the best. No,
Speaker 1: and then you become better. You become a better champion,
Speaker 1: become a better fighter. Life is about loss. As time
Speaker 1: goes off, the times go on, we lose everything. We
Speaker 1: lose our hair, we lose our teeth, and eventually we
Speaker 1: lose our life. Life is all about loss. What la
Speaker 1: mess you this? What do you think is the number
Speaker 1: one skill that a box for needs to be to
Speaker 1: be successful? The desire to win? That's it. That's so
Speaker 1: you need to desire to will to win. If you do,
Speaker 1: you believe that was your best attribute? Yes, So what
Speaker 1: about what about the right hook to the body and
Speaker 1: the upper cut the combo? Nobody's been able to throw
Speaker 1: that point like you, Mike, Well, I'm very I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like you say, fighting the spirit, it comes up my spirit?
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you? How did you learn
Speaker 1: that punch? Because I've never seen anybody, I've never seen
Speaker 1: anybody put that punch together like you put it together.
Speaker 1: I meant to cuss their model taught me, well, it
Speaker 1: seemed like you was trying to get you was trying
Speaker 1: to put that punch on Roy. But Roy just every
Speaker 1: time you got close, he grabbed you. Roy said you
Speaker 1: would not gonna put that that that upper cut on
Speaker 1: his mama child. But he's treaty smart. He knows how
Speaker 1: to avoid punches and punishing it very well. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. Is there another celebrity match that
Speaker 1: you would like to part take in? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a possibility. People keep asking me, but it's a possibility. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you said the money. It's a lot of money
Speaker 1: in it. It truly is. Let's see you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? They like will Mike, Let that sink in
Speaker 1: for a second. You're about to be fifty five years
Speaker 1: of age and people still want to see you fight
Speaker 1: at fifty five, as opposed to the guys that's in
Speaker 1: the early twenties, mid the late twenties. They'd rather see
Speaker 1: you fight than see them. Doesn't that say something about
Speaker 1: the sport, Mike, that's that's only a boy the graces God, brother,
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with me to spoil you,
Speaker 1: onlybody the grace of God. Yeah, it has something to
Speaker 1: do with the sport, Mike, that they want to see
Speaker 1: a fifty five year old it's been retired for almost
Speaker 1: two decades, want to fight, as opposed to a twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty six year old that's in their prime. That does
Speaker 1: say something about the sport, Mike, his great brother. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you question. People ain't clamoring for Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: to come out of retirement, for Kareem and Magic to
Speaker 1: come from Last Bird to come out of retirement. You
Speaker 1: know why because Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Lebron James, all
Speaker 1: these young guys are doing what they do. So do
Speaker 1: you think people would be lining up to spend seventy
Speaker 1: dollars to see Mike Tyson at fifty five if Earl Spencing,
Speaker 1: Keith and a Buck Profit was fighting. Listen, the thing is,
Speaker 1: this is what it is, mister Sharp. Okay, when I come,
Speaker 1: when I come, when I come to do my show,
Speaker 1: I bring a circus with me, right, I bring a circus.
Speaker 1: People like to go to the circus, Yes, if it
Speaker 1: and I paid for me. They're paying for the circus
Speaker 1: I'm bringing. Mike, When you fought, when you were in
Speaker 1: your prime, there was no deally dowaling around. You had
Speaker 1: to get into your seat because if you bull jobbed
Speaker 1: around and you got well, I'm gonna make a grand interest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make everybody see me getting in my seat.
Speaker 1: The fight's over. You going back and you're dropping, you
Speaker 1: going back the dressing room because you know nothing to
Speaker 1: guy out people. It was a book. There was there's
Speaker 1: something about a heavyweight fight. I've only been to a handful,
Speaker 1: and I've been to one of your fight. There's nothing
Speaker 1: like it. I've been to a lot of other guys fight,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to call no name, but there's
Speaker 1: a buzz around you around the heavyweight to god. But
Speaker 1: that's all real, So we don't have to get back
Speaker 1: into it. But how did the incident in the mid nineties,
Speaker 1: How did that change Mike Tyson? How did that did that?
Speaker 1: Do you think that two and a half years away
Speaker 1: from the game of boxing, do you think that had
Speaker 1: a bigger impact on any other thing in Mike Tyson's
Speaker 1: life as a poe in boxing? Well, you know, I
Speaker 1: was never the same fight after I came out of prison.
Speaker 1: But it was just I was still learning life. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was making mistakes. I didn't stand on
Speaker 1: the wall. I did something. But the thing, Mike, is
Speaker 1: that your background. I think the thing that I read
Speaker 1: with that by the time you were like thirteen, you
Speaker 1: had been arrested like thirty eight times. So I was
Speaker 1: so I was a streaking the kids. Do we get arrested.
Speaker 1: We robbed, We robbed people, we robbed stores. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: get money, We get money. And that's why I was
Speaker 1: arrested a lot of times, but I got away a lot,
Speaker 1: just right. Can I let me ask you this, Mike.
Speaker 1: Were you not the same boxer when you came out
Speaker 1: or were you not the same person when you came out?
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Both? Pretty much both. Yeah, when you were
Speaker 1: you look at boxing. Look that boxing totally of the business.
Speaker 1: Let's get money, Let's get money, and let's try to
Speaker 1: change their life, get married and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: prior to that, you looked at boxing gets entertainment. You know,
Speaker 1: money came along with it because you had tons of money.
Speaker 1: You had to the white Tigers, and you had to
Speaker 1: rolls Royce. If you had the big homes, the pallational estates.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to love for it no more. I
Speaker 1: love to love for it. It It were when you were incarcerated,
Speaker 1: did you spark? Did you do any shadow boxing? Did
Speaker 1: you do it, hit the heavy bag? Or did they
Speaker 1: allow you to do any of that? In there? Allowed
Speaker 1: to use my I couldn't use my my my body
Speaker 1: as a weapon. I cadn't make my body strong because
Speaker 1: it's a weapon. That's what they told me. So in
Speaker 1: my dress and my my set. I was your box
Speaker 1: a day and running place for two hours. Were you
Speaker 1: were you? Were you? If? Were you isolated or were
Speaker 1: you in gym pop? I was in population, but I
Speaker 1: was isolated. A line got to a lot of altercations.
Speaker 1: Hold on you may that tell me somebody actually tried you.
Speaker 1: They knew you were Mike Tyson, and people try you. No,
Speaker 1: I'm a troublemaker. Oh so you trying them? I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a real troublemaker. Yes, say I'm saying what Mike? You
Speaker 1: know you had added you were in an advantageous situation.
Speaker 1: You know, why would you? Why why would you say?
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm just gonna do. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a model, inmate,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my time. I'm not gonna bother anybody,
Speaker 1: because I know nobody's gonna bother me. You went looking
Speaker 1: for trouble. Well, listen, I didn't believe I need to
Speaker 1: be there, and I'm not gonna let any guard disrespect me.
Speaker 1: So you didn't have a problem with the inmates, you
Speaker 1: had a problem with the guards. Yes, so hold on,
Speaker 1: I was want to make sure I was it was
Speaker 1: it the guard per se or the authoritative figure, because
Speaker 1: that's what the guard is, no matter what you think about,
Speaker 1: he's in an authoritative position. If the position he would
Speaker 1: just say you have to leave, you have to do that,
Speaker 1: You do the heck, get the hell out of here,
Speaker 1: to move your ass. He doesn't say that, right athority
Speaker 1: say that? So you thought they were you think you
Speaker 1: thought they were being disrespectful towards you because of who
Speaker 1: you were. I didn't think of nothing. I thought of
Speaker 1: the words that it came out of his mouth. You
Speaker 1: didn't think that he might have had a bad day.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hear those words coming out of
Speaker 1: his mouth towards me. So, Mike, you know people are
Speaker 1: allowed to have a bad day. Well, this or like
Speaker 1: a regular occurrence, or this wasn't like an isolated or
Speaker 1: was it just one or two guards or was it
Speaker 1: like the general guard population. It was a couple of incidents.
Speaker 1: But I rebound and got over those incidents right, and
Speaker 1: I became those I became almost sex a trust ge. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Look, Mike, I think the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: a bosser could have is like intimidation. You had that
Speaker 1: because you didn't come out there with no rob on.
Speaker 1: You cut the hotel towel, draped it over you. You
Speaker 1: were all black type black boots, and you had that.
Speaker 1: You were glistening. Listen, you know what. That is intimidation
Speaker 1: and probably the best. It's probably the best part to
Speaker 1: have in sports and everything. But sometimes you could scare
Speaker 1: a guy into kicking your ass. So if is that? So,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Let's go, let's go
Speaker 1: to Japan. I think that wasn't what ninety ninety one.
Speaker 1: When you're a bust of Douglas. You know, Mike, you
Speaker 1: know on a given day you could beat busted Douglas.
Speaker 1: You five ten times, you beat him ten times ten.
Speaker 1: What happened that night? He was the better fight of
Speaker 1: that night. It's no, I can't take nothing away from him.
Speaker 1: I trained hard, really I could have trained harder, but
Speaker 1: he really though the hell of a fight he did.
Speaker 1: He stuck to it. Even when you dropped him and
Speaker 1: he got up on the eight account, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: Mike got him. Now, Mike put him down. Mike, he's
Speaker 1: in his groove. And he came back out with the job.
Speaker 1: And to check this out right, by him beating me,
Speaker 1: he catapulted me to even the logical level. I became
Speaker 1: the bigger figure after he beat me, right, and then
Speaker 1: I went to prison. No, then I beat the number
Speaker 1: one contender, and then I went to prayer. I beat
Speaker 1: him twice. Then I went to prison, came out and
Speaker 1: I won two belts. Right. Do you believe then? Do
Speaker 1: you believe? Let measaine this. Do you believe had the
Speaker 1: incident that fent you away for two and a half years,
Speaker 1: had that not happened, how great a fighter would Mike
Speaker 1: Tyson have been that didn't happen, Mike Tyson would have died.
Speaker 1: So that was the best thing that ever happened to
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. Wow, you really believe that? I know in
Speaker 1: my heart you were on that destructive of a path
Speaker 1: given who you were. Yes, brother, yes, yes, yes, that
Speaker 1: was The best thing that ever happened to me is
Speaker 1: that went to prison. Trust me, mister sharp, I was
Speaker 1: just living a really disgusting life. As Mike. When you're
Speaker 1: alone in your sale, there's no one there but you
Speaker 1: and your innermost thoughts. What's going through your mind? You know,
Speaker 1: when you think of people in general, you meet with
Speaker 1: mythological I'm gone, we're religious, allow who act far, We're superstitious,
Speaker 1: But I'm the black patent frost my fucking past. That's
Speaker 1: my life. Did you ever ask yourself? I'm Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: I got millions, I got ten houses, I got this.
Speaker 1: How to believe? Did I end up here? Well, that's
Speaker 1: not particularly the question. The question is what do I
Speaker 1: do now that I am here? Okay? So what what
Speaker 1: was a typical day like for from Bike Tyson when
Speaker 1: he was incarcerated? You wake up? At what time? Did
Speaker 1: you have to get up? I got up earlier, but
Speaker 1: they allowed me to work. God, I could run whenever
Speaker 1: I wanted to run. I was able to eat any
Speaker 1: kind of food I wanted. I really had Listen, that
Speaker 1: was the best three years of my life. Really, I had.
Speaker 1: Really I had a really awesome time to present. You
Speaker 1: said you weren't allowed to use your body because they
Speaker 1: say that was a weapon. Had you been at least
Speaker 1: when you had you been able to hit the heavy bag,
Speaker 1: hit the mids, do things, jump rope, do things of
Speaker 1: that nature and you come out. Would you have been
Speaker 1: Would you have been a different fighter? No. The only
Speaker 1: way you become a different fighter is foreign. You have
Speaker 1: to you have to practice what you're gonna do in
Speaker 1: the rain. I wasn't able to do that. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure if they would have let you, I'm sure some
Speaker 1: of those guys for what you pay a foreign partner
Speaker 1: would have say, okay, Mike, you go ahead and put
Speaker 1: this on the books for your boy, your boy getting there,
Speaker 1: and give you a couple of uns, give you a
Speaker 1: couple of rounds. Works like that when you're incarcerated. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that, well, mister Gilmore plantation, Mike,
Speaker 1: you love pigeons, and looking at your documentary and reading
Speaker 1: a lot of what you say, hey you may interviewer man,
Speaker 1: you're going, well, thank you. What is it? What is
Speaker 1: it about pigeons that made you gravitate towards I mean
Speaker 1: not eagles, not I mean not just a great majestic bird,
Speaker 1: a pigeon. People look at pigeons, they say they're flying
Speaker 1: rats exactly. But a pigeon makes you feel like an ego.
Speaker 1: It's just the magic they have. We'll put on this
Speaker 1: earth to protect them and take care of them. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm reading you have you still have? You still
Speaker 1: love pigeons? How many pictures do you think you have?
Speaker 1: Currently a couple of hundreds? So so what do you
Speaker 1: what do you do? What do you do with a picture?
Speaker 1: Now I've heard about these pigeon races and people raising
Speaker 1: pigeons that they have. Somebody cost thousands and thousands of dollars,
Speaker 1: So what is it that might coach? The highest paid
Speaker 1: pigeon is like one point nine two point one million
Speaker 1: dollars a home? Look at up on your look at
Speaker 1: up on your your phone. Hold on, somebody paid one
Speaker 1: point nine two million dollars for a pigeon. Yes, the Chinese,
Speaker 1: some Chinese businessman was Was he dragging one point eight
Speaker 1: million or one point nine million behind it? No? Not
Speaker 1: at all? A check And listen to bird. He can
Speaker 1: never let the bird out. He don't need for breathing.
Speaker 1: As he let him out, he goes right back to
Speaker 1: his dog. Hold on, so let me get hold on
Speaker 1: top about so and fly hold on so so let
Speaker 1: me get this right. If you got a picture, you
Speaker 1: got pigeons, And I said, well, Mike, sell me one
Speaker 1: of them. You sell me a couple of them. I
Speaker 1: let the pigeons go. They're gonna come back to you. Yes,
Speaker 1: they're only for breathing. Oh the world wold wold, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: How do how do how do they? So? How do
Speaker 1: they know? To come back to you? Is what they do?
Speaker 1: That's why they call home and pictures they come home.
Speaker 1: So that so that's why you like them. You like
Speaker 1: everybody had probly muhammed jeans, everybody had pigeons. Pigeons. Pigeons
Speaker 1: has been around the beginning of time. That they're done
Speaker 1: with their crap is worth for righting ancient time. So
Speaker 1: crap right. Some people like dogs, some people like cats,
Speaker 1: some people raise livestock. It's pigeons. What is it about pigeons?
Speaker 1: Is it because like when you raise them, they will
Speaker 1: never forsake you. They will always come back to its
Speaker 1: original owner, which is Mike. Well some of them asking lost.
Speaker 1: You need to have a bird that you raised, he
Speaker 1: was born in your coup and he had slide. When
Speaker 1: he gets lost, you would think, yes, gets lost. No, no, Now, hey,
Speaker 1: what if he didn't get lost? What if something like
Speaker 1: he might have got a hawk, might have got him,
Speaker 1: some other bird of prey. Well I didn't get him,
Speaker 1: somebody didn't. So so so you breathe, So you breathe pigeons? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. So I want to know some names. What
Speaker 1: what's what's what's the special type of pigeon? If I
Speaker 1: were to get if, I would say, Mike, look here, man,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. Open up me a pigeon operation. Also,
Speaker 1: bro give me some porters. What type of pigeon do
Speaker 1: I need? How many females? How many males? I would say, First,
Speaker 1: what do you want the pigeons for? You want them
Speaker 1: to make money? You want to entertainment, you want for enjoyment.
Speaker 1: What do you want them for? You want to eat them?
Speaker 1: What do you want? Ain't no pigeon, man, Oh, But
Speaker 1: what you want them for? I want it. It seems
Speaker 1: I want to for what you've gotten for for calmness
Speaker 1: they gave, They bring you serenity, they bring you peace.
Speaker 1: So I wanted the pigeon to do the same thing
Speaker 1: for you that it do for me what it did
Speaker 1: for you. You want rollers, then no rollers? Do they
Speaker 1: flying in? They do summersault that It's very entertaining. Those
Speaker 1: are the type of pigures you have, Yes, I do.
Speaker 1: And they come in all colors and they color you.
Speaker 1: It's like, so, what's the difference between a pigeon that
Speaker 1: I see in the park and say a pigeon that
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson has not the rollers? What's the difference. The
Speaker 1: difference is that every pigeon in the world comes from
Speaker 1: those pigeons in the street. They call rock pigen and
Speaker 1: all the pictures in the world come from them. It
Speaker 1: was just a guy. It was a gentleman on collective silence.
Speaker 1: I forgot his name the docks to whatever his name was.
Speaker 1: He started taking every pigion they had a white white
Speaker 1: seas and he made it to them until then the
Speaker 1: bird turned all white. And so how many So you
Speaker 1: have a couple of hundred pigeons, do you take them out?
Speaker 1: So you take them out, throw them up in there
Speaker 1: they do summer saulce. How I mean, how long? It
Speaker 1: just opened the door and they fly out? Okay, so
Speaker 1: how long were they out? I leave him out for
Speaker 1: like what thirty minutes, leave my for thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: then they come right back. Well, I anticipate leaving them
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. Sometimes they fly so long it might
Speaker 1: be too out. They stay in the air even at nighttime.
Speaker 1: I didn't think they could see at night, you know,
Speaker 1: mister sharp, And I look at night, they're right in
Speaker 1: the air, and I mean hide in the air at nighttime.
Speaker 1: I can't even see them. They can't see me. And
Speaker 1: you just leave. You just leave the coop open, and
Speaker 1: they'll come back, and they'll come back home if I
Speaker 1: letting him out at twelve o'clock or something. That keeps
Speaker 1: flying till six in the morning. So so why would
Speaker 1: you let why are you why do you let him
Speaker 1: out at that closer at dusk? Why would you let
Speaker 1: him out in like noon? The accident, I was just
Speaker 1: letting them out, and I'm throwing see it, fucking see
Speaker 1: him around. I didn't think there was gonna flat to
Speaker 1: the skin at nighttimes. I always thought a pigeon, yeah night.
Speaker 1: I was wrong, right, yeah, because I don't know him
Speaker 1: to see pigeons at night. I was thinking that like
Speaker 1: their day animal. Because I normal to see him walking
Speaker 1: in the park while I see him flying so back.
Speaker 1: But they fly at night time too, and they fly
Speaker 1: for an hour. So if some if let's just say,
Speaker 1: a boxer comes to you and he says, Mike, what's
Speaker 1: some of the advice that you'd give me, as far
Speaker 1: as not just the ring, but some of the things
Speaker 1: are like my circle, What are some of the things
Speaker 1: that you would tell a young boxer that in life, when, when,
Speaker 1: life and ever and whenever somebody wants to be the
Speaker 1: best in the world or something in life, there's always
Speaker 1: gonna be some disappointments, and you have to take those
Speaker 1: disappointments and pretty uh integrated with your determination and never
Speaker 1: never lose and continue to work on your discipline and
Speaker 1: believe that you're the best in the world or whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing, and there's never been anyone better. I heard you.
Speaker 1: I used to I used to tell people that discipline
Speaker 1: is doing your very best when no one else is watching.
Speaker 1: I heard you describe discipline if doing something you hate,
Speaker 1: but doing as if you love it. Yes, exactly. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you hate boxing? No? I
Speaker 1: hated training? Oh, okay, I hate a training. That trainer
Speaker 1: is a monster that's really testing it. So that training
Speaker 1: as a monster. But I didn't anyway, So everybody always
Speaker 1: asked me, because I was an ex professional athlete, about
Speaker 1: being with women the night of the day of a game.
Speaker 1: I guess when you go training, when you go to
Speaker 1: training camp, if no women allowed, well no, as it
Speaker 1: starts out that way. But you know some guys, some
Speaker 1: guys do the whole training camp with their families, right,
Speaker 1: depends an individual. When you went away, how did you
Speaker 1: do it? Everything? Shut down everything, no, no anything, no
Speaker 1: food on most no anything. It's hard work and discipline.
Speaker 1: Saw how long? How long was your training camp? Typically
Speaker 1: six weeks? Six weeks? So, yes, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question when you were in your prime? Yeah, go ahead,
Speaker 1: What do you say now, Mike, I have fifteen fights
Speaker 1: in one year. So you all on if you had
Speaker 1: fifteen fights in one year, how you stayed in camp? Yo? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was always training, No, not really training, I was
Speaker 1: always fighting, right, well, that fights in one week? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say, if you're fighting that man,
Speaker 1: you ain't got no training camp because basically you fight
Speaker 1: and then two weeks another week later, two weeks later
Speaker 1: you're fighting again. Exactly Mike, do you remember I think
Speaker 1: it was March or April of nineteen ninety six, you
Speaker 1: fraught Frank Bruno. I do remember that fight? What do
Speaker 1: you remember? What do you What do you remember about
Speaker 1: that fight? I remember I wanted the one so bad,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't that. I just wanted to come out
Speaker 1: of prisoner and kind of take over the show again, right.
Speaker 1: I remember that. Actually, that was my first heavyweight fight,
Speaker 1: and I remember people talking about the buzz that you
Speaker 1: feel at a heavyweight fight, and they say, not just
Speaker 1: any buzz, because you do realize you're going to see
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. Well, I had followed your whole career. I
Speaker 1: knew who you was, I knew what you accomplished, and
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm excited. I'm like, Okay, I'm there's nothing
Speaker 1: like that, Mike. Do you do you feel that electricity
Speaker 1: when you walk into the ring. Can you hear the
Speaker 1: crowd starting to get into a pitch when you're in
Speaker 1: your dressing room? Listen, you're you're in an athlete at
Speaker 1: a very high level. When you're in that mode of relaxation,
Speaker 1: you could hear and see anybody in the arena. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a friend after fight, I said, who's that girl
Speaker 1: the red dress you're talking about? He said, Mike, get
Speaker 1: the fuck are you did not see in the ring?
Speaker 1: I was talking to that girl. I was telling it
Speaker 1: has a baby. You were very you were very close
Speaker 1: to Tupac and I think that summer that was when
Speaker 1: Tupac ultimately lost his life. I think you were fighting
Speaker 1: Bruce Selden. Yes, do you do you remember? Do you
Speaker 1: remember that fight? Yes? I remember that fight because I
Speaker 1: remember talking to Tupac making sure that he would have
Speaker 1: to tape because I was coming out out of this
Speaker 1: with his music. Yeah. I was calling me taking on
Speaker 1: time because I thought he was gonna be late. Where
Speaker 1: were you when you got the news that Tupac had
Speaker 1: been shot? And where did you? Where were you when
Speaker 1: you got the news that he had ultimately lost his life.
Speaker 1: I was in my house because you was back. You
Speaker 1: were living in Vegas at the time, correct, Yes, so
Speaker 1: I was in my house. I just had a brand
Speaker 1: new baby girl, okay, and I and I just couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it because I told him I'm coming to see
Speaker 1: you after I get dressed, and then I have to go.
Speaker 1: I went to the house to see my daughter and
Speaker 1: somebody told me he had got shot, but the next
Speaker 1: morning they had unreleased a head died. Mike every I mean,
Speaker 1: you have one of the most recognizable faces. Everybody know
Speaker 1: who Mike Tyson is. You've been loved. I don't think
Speaker 1: when you were fourteen year old, fourteen years of age,
Speaker 1: you thought you would be as loved and revered as
Speaker 1: you are. Who are some of the most Who are
Speaker 1: some of the people that you've met that you're like, Damn, man,
Speaker 1: that's really cool. I met such and such, I met
Speaker 1: this person yea, when I was in reform school, I
Speaker 1: met Muhammad Ali and that changed everything. Wow. So so
Speaker 1: what what did you ask him? Any questions? What advice
Speaker 1: did he give you? Far from But once I saw us,
Speaker 1: I want to be like that, right, because you saw
Speaker 1: the way the people gathered around if you thought you
Speaker 1: saw the aura that he possessed. Yes, So look, so
Speaker 1: when athletes and entertainers they see you, Now, what did
Speaker 1: they say to you? They tell me where they were
Speaker 1: at certain places when I was doing certain fights. Right,
Speaker 1: and it's about their father, their mother they had. They
Speaker 1: named me after you because I was born in one
Speaker 1: of your fights or something. Do you do you like
Speaker 1: meeting like Michael Jordan or Magic Johnathan or Lebron James
Speaker 1: or this way? Do you do you get up? I mean,
Speaker 1: are you like when you meet people? Do you like, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool because you see the way they react
Speaker 1: towards you. You know, if anybody gets it humbles you,
Speaker 1: it humbles you. It's just I understand why all both
Speaker 1: athletes respect each other because you have have to be
Speaker 1: around real people and know who you are before somebody
Speaker 1: tells you who you are, right because him, the fathers.
Speaker 1: You gotta take care our kids and all that superstar
Speaker 1: iconic shit, gotta go after window. You know why, Mike,
Speaker 1: Because of an athlete at the highest level, they understand
Speaker 1: the sacrifice and the discipline that it takes. And that's
Speaker 1: what I see people like. I was like, look, everybody
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be great or want to ascend to
Speaker 1: that top, top level. And that's okay. Some people just
Speaker 1: want to get a paycheck, go home and live a nice, quiet,
Speaker 1: happy life. But if you want to ascend the heights
Speaker 1: that's never been ascended, there's nothing you can do without
Speaker 1: sacrifice and discipline, and you're gonna have to go somebody.
Speaker 1: Some people don't. Some people do it. They like the sacrifice,
Speaker 1: but they don't like what comes with it. They want
Speaker 1: to sacrifice the win to go hard. They want to
Speaker 1: hang out with the boys, but they don't want to
Speaker 1: come with They don't want what the sacrifice skins. They won't.
Speaker 1: They don't want that shine that skives my kids when
Speaker 1: people come up taking pictures skins the headlight of my
Speaker 1: child My chis to see later dad through. Because let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, how many of your kids
Speaker 1: were around were born when you were fighting. I'm not
Speaker 1: not not that to tail in, but I'm talking about
Speaker 1: when Mike Tyson was Mike Tyson night, when I was
Speaker 1: that guy wasn't a good father, right, That guy wasn't
Speaker 1: a cool father my kids. Like a year or two,
Speaker 1: my kids just started getting tight with me again. But
Speaker 1: but Mike, those are the sacrifices that you're talking about
Speaker 1: that you have to make. You see, you said it yourself.
Speaker 1: You don't believe I understand that. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of sacrifice and getting it back together too well, I commanded, well,
Speaker 1: I commend you. I commend you for being able to
Speaker 1: get it back together because a lot of times, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times when we we we sacrifice. I
Speaker 1: think what they see now, Mike and you, is that
Speaker 1: a lot of your sacrifice was for them. You know
Speaker 1: what kind of say Temster Sharp knowing my kids know
Speaker 1: my kid's gonna say, I'm my grandkids, let's say wow, Dad,
Speaker 1: Granddad really looked out for Dad, really looked out because
Speaker 1: you wanted, You wanted for your kids and your grandkids
Speaker 1: more than what you had. You didn't want your kids
Speaker 1: and your grand kids to spend one hour in a
Speaker 1: day that you had of a kid. But listen, listen,
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They couldn't handle what I had. That's why
Speaker 1: they have less that they have. Now what what When
Speaker 1: I lived through it kills them. Yes, I tell my
Speaker 1: kids that all the time. You're not You're not built
Speaker 1: to go through what I had to go through to
Speaker 1: make sure that you didn't go through it. Listen, I
Speaker 1: haven't done in at place tennis at a high level.
Speaker 1: But yes, think about this when I when I lost
Speaker 1: the fight, it was closer than going back to Browns
Speaker 1: or going back to lock up. When she wins the fight,
Speaker 1: she goes back to a big mansion, big long property
Speaker 1: and all that because it's totally different phasion. Mike, you've
Speaker 1: had your I mean you want knocked the guy in
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. You had start your career. I think you
Speaker 1: had seventeenth straight knockouts. When you land a punch, do
Speaker 1: you know it's will knockout punch when you hit guy
Speaker 1: with it? Not all the time, No, sometimes you throw
Speaker 1: him punch. You thought you missed the perfect punch. The
Speaker 1: guys out cold, he said, Damn, I thought I missed
Speaker 1: that punch. So when you thought when you when you
Speaker 1: throw a punch, are you are you? Are you trying
Speaker 1: to like maybe if I hit him in the chairs
Speaker 1: and he dug it to catch him in his chair?
Speaker 1: Or am I trying to punch a shoulder? What are
Speaker 1: you trying to when you throw a punch? What are
Speaker 1: you trying to hit? What I'm trying to do is
Speaker 1: put the guy in position for to be able to
Speaker 1: hit him where I want to right for the one
Speaker 1: of him against the water, against the ropes, standing there
Speaker 1: still with his hands up like this. This is how
Speaker 1: want So that's when he was club that's when you
Speaker 1: would come with the combo to the body with the uppercut.
Speaker 1: Because when he comes, when he when he's like this,
Speaker 1: you club him to the body, he drops it down.
Speaker 1: Now you come through the guard. Yes, exactly who you are,
Speaker 1: and I don't When I hit him with the appercut,
Speaker 1: it's not hard, but no, whay, they go down me
Speaker 1: because they don't see it. Right. It's the punch that
Speaker 1: you don't see that gets you up out of there.
Speaker 1: Not that hard. The punch to the body's heart of
Speaker 1: it comes up and he don't see it, and that
Speaker 1: what makes him go down. How do you how do you?
Speaker 1: How do you? I mean, how do you get to
Speaker 1: the point where you're able to walk a guy into
Speaker 1: a punch? Because you're able because I was watching the
Speaker 1: Rumble in the Jungle documentary and I was watching how
Speaker 1: George Foremer was was like cutting off the ring and
Speaker 1: it was barred. He was just trying to cut the
Speaker 1: ring off because he knew he had a feeling that
Speaker 1: Ali was gonna get on his bicycle, So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to cut the ring off. How do you walk
Speaker 1: a guy into a punch. You're like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I'm gonna walk him into this. Listen, right,
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to walk Muhammed Ali into a punch.
Speaker 1: But you know it's all about setting up people in
Speaker 1: a position, almost like playing chess. That the great position
Speaker 1: and knocked him out of the drop him. Other hit them.
Speaker 1: But you know, fighters got spirit. Sometimes some guy you
Speaker 1: gotta be in the death he is gonna quit. George Foreman,
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson of the the the heavyweight. Who who do
Speaker 1: you believe is the hardest puncher? God? Damn? George Foreman
Speaker 1: is pretty hard, you know what I mean? Yes, look
Speaker 1: at all these other guys knock look at the Marnin
Speaker 1: Day heavyweight knockout, and then look at George Foreman knockout.
Speaker 1: I mean really, him and Sunny Listen really beat me.
Speaker 1: They could beat somebody that's the death, right Jack Johnson,
Speaker 1: Well yeah he was great for his time. But I'm
Speaker 1: talking about fighting guys that really know how to fight, right,
Speaker 1: George Man, God, Sunny Listen that beat me in the death?
Speaker 1: Who who do you think is the most technical heavyweight? Mohammed?
Speaker 1: What made what made Mohammed I leave so special? The
Speaker 1: desire to win an ego, So he had to back
Speaker 1: up all after he after he don't talk trash to everybody.
Speaker 1: He had to back that up. Huh. But he believed
Speaker 1: that he was the greatest fight of that guard ever created.
Speaker 1: And he loved himselves more than anybody ever loved himselves
Speaker 1: in their life. Did you you can't beat that? How
Speaker 1: do you beat back? Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 1: Did Mike Tyson love himself more than anybody? And at
Speaker 1: one time? Yeah? Periods I go up and down with
Speaker 1: my emotions about me. But it seems that you're Mike,
Speaker 1: just talking to you right now. It seems like you're
Speaker 1: in a very very good place. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in a good place. But did any think a
Speaker 1: change within the drop of the night? You know? Anything's
Speaker 1: greatly Mike. You have everything. You just talked about the
Speaker 1: mansion that you got with alarms, and you got all
Speaker 1: the cars. I don't think you got any targets anymore.
Speaker 1: But you still got your pigeons life, and you got kids.
Speaker 1: You got great kids. You're great license it's more than that,
Speaker 1: licens even more than that? What what is? What? What
Speaker 1: more is to be surrounded by family that loves you
Speaker 1: and have more and have it all? What don't you
Speaker 1: have that you would you that you would? What does Mike?
Speaker 1: What doesn't Mike Tyson have that he wants. I haven't, mad,
Speaker 1: I haven't reached my highest attention yet. What do you
Speaker 1: what does Mike tych Okay, let's cannot look. Can we
Speaker 1: project over the next two years? What if I say,
Speaker 1: at the age of fifty seven, Mike Tyson will be
Speaker 1: I'd be close to reach my highest potential. That was
Speaker 1: That's what i'man for. Do you do it? Do you
Speaker 1: do social media? No? I don't. I don't not to
Speaker 1: spell that well, so I wouldn't not. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you can get people the do that for you.
Speaker 1: I was just waste the money to me, So you're
Speaker 1: not begging to waste of money anymore. No, I'm into
Speaker 1: really wasting money. He's the one wing for Mike. I
Speaker 1: really throw it away. I don't clay with no money.
Speaker 1: But but I think the thing is so let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question. When you were when you were
Speaker 1: growing up and you had these dreams, you were fighting,
Speaker 1: you landing you in your bed, and you're thinking, what
Speaker 1: were some of the things that Mike Tyson, what were
Speaker 1: some of the things that Man? If I get this,
Speaker 1: I would have made it. If I get that, I
Speaker 1: would have made it. I'm gonna have all this at everything.
Speaker 1: But once, when I didn't have it, I wanted it
Speaker 1: real bad. Once I got it, I didn't want it anymore.
Speaker 1: I heard you say that just exactly what you just said.
Speaker 1: You said you wanted it all, and when you got it,
Speaker 1: you was more miserable than when you didn't have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: having it all is a different perspective. Mike, let me
Speaker 1: ask you. You like sports. Who's your favorite who's your
Speaker 1: favorite football team? Wow, when I'm learning to tell a
Speaker 1: play with the Giants, you're you're LT fan back in
Speaker 1: the day of LT. Okay, what about basketball Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: I think you like Jordan because his name Mike and
Speaker 1: your name Mike. We're born in the same hospital. The
Speaker 1: NFL has donated one million dollars to study the benefits
Speaker 1: of marijuana. If Commissioner Goodell has called Mike Tyson in
Speaker 1: it says, Mike, lay out your best what marijuana does,
Speaker 1: the benefits that it has as far as pain because
Speaker 1: they're trying to get away from the injections, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get away from the pain killers, the peals. What
Speaker 1: what what would you tell Commissioner Goodale that you would
Speaker 1: have to go that is from the history of marijuana.
Speaker 1: They're getting the wrong information. They're misinformed about marijuana is
Speaker 1: not a drug of the medicine. And you could tell
Speaker 1: there's some guys that gave up their career over marijuana.
Speaker 1: So they have they have to make some sense to
Speaker 1: the people that this is not some actually cotton anything.
Speaker 1: It only thing and it only encourages the players to
Speaker 1: play better. Right my perspective of it, I fight better
Speaker 1: when I'm on marijuana or some mushrooms. So what is
Speaker 1: what is Tyson two point zero? What is that gonna
Speaker 1: been tailed? But Tyson two points gonna detail a cannabis
Speaker 1: company with mushroom situation and the psychedelics, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: really pretty much we were in when what eighteen states
Speaker 1: from my four hundred stories, uh huh. And our our
Speaker 1: objectives is to conquer the world with our products. So
Speaker 1: you feel you have the best product the world told
Speaker 1: me I have the best part the world that the
Speaker 1: world told you that. Yes, I won the contest, all
Speaker 1: the world championships and stuff. Acting. How did you get
Speaker 1: into acting? I don't know. I just I have friends
Speaker 1: that were directors and they say he might sit in
Speaker 1: this movie, Hey might who do this? Do that? And
Speaker 1: I was never getting paid for that stuff, so I
Speaker 1: started acting and getting paid for it. What's your favorite movie?
Speaker 1: You've been in? The Hangover a big time? Everybody? That was?
Speaker 1: That was that was? That was that was. That was
Speaker 1: a great movie. Yeah. That put me back on my
Speaker 1: feet for a minute. Do you let me ask you question.
Speaker 1: Do you ever sit back and watch some of your
Speaker 1: fights with your kids or do you have buddies over
Speaker 1: sometime and you reminiscing like, Okay, let's watch this fight.
Speaker 1: Sometimes back come in and my kids, my kids and
Speaker 1: their friends are watching some of my friensons. The heck,
Speaker 1: we can't do that in here, okay, shull out. We
Speaker 1: gotta do on a human mode here. Why you don't
Speaker 1: watch celebrity? Why you don't? Why why you don't want
Speaker 1: the kids to watch it? Because sometimes that's the fight.
Speaker 1: I may call my mother or something else. Cursed that
Speaker 1: somebody right O God, I want to get you. I
Speaker 1: want to get you out of here. On these last
Speaker 1: few questions, Mike Tyson, Fury France and Ningdonald, do you
Speaker 1: think that do you want to see that fight? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't mind watching it I'll talk about box, not
Speaker 1: out not Let's let's be specific at boxing match. Would
Speaker 1: you like to see a boxing match with Tyson Fury
Speaker 1: and friends and Nincdonald? I like to see anybody fight.
Speaker 1: Oh you just I'll see you. So you just want
Speaker 1: to see a fight? Yeah? What do you think about
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, great showman? Do you think he should box?
Speaker 1: Do you think he should like leave mmm and come
Speaker 1: over and box? Whatever he's gonna do, he's gonna make
Speaker 1: that ship ton of money. He is he is because
Speaker 1: he can sell a fight. He's he's as good at
Speaker 1: selling a fight is anybody that we've had it been.
Speaker 1: He might, he might, he might rival Alie. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's as witty and as clever as Ali, but
Speaker 1: he can sell a fight. Mike, he can sell a fight.
Speaker 1: People that they said, no way, ain't knowing Nellie as
Speaker 1: this guy. This guy's a circus show too. He's the
Speaker 1: traveling circus. Yes, yes he is, Mike. I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you taking time out of your day and giving me
Speaker 1: a couple of brother man. I appreciate it. Best of luck,
Speaker 1: whatever you do, keep conquering the world. I'm glad of
Speaker 1: the man. That I'm interviewing right now. I'm glad what
Speaker 1: you turned out to be. Bro, I really appreciate you.
Speaker 1: Oh love brother, all the bed, all my life, the grinding,
Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle Bay, the price, wanna slice,
Speaker 1: got the broll, the dice to swath all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life, All my life,
Speaker 1: the grinding, all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag, the price,
Speaker 1: wanna slice, got the brother, dice to swath all my life.
Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life.