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Speaker 1: all my life, all my life, the running all my life, sacrifice,

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Speaker 1: swap all my life? I've been running in all my life. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am

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Speaker 1: your whole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of Club Shasha.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that I have a podcast

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Speaker 1: that I love doing a podcast is because of things

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Speaker 1: like this. The guy that's stopping by for a drinking conversation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe a smoke, but we're indoors and we're not allowed

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Speaker 1: to smoke. Once was considered the baddest man on the planet.

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Speaker 1: He the youngest heavyweight boxing champ, Iron Mike Tyson, Mike

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Speaker 1: how we're doing I'm doing good. Let's talk about your podcast.

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Speaker 1: You have a podcast called Hot Boxing. Yes, what type

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Speaker 1: of guests do you have on and what do you

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Speaker 1: world who's willing to come on, and it's wide open,

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Speaker 1: wide open, so you talk about anything anything. You also

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Speaker 1: have a cannabis company. Now, let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: when you were fighting? Did you smoke marijuana when you

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Speaker 1: So had you known the benefits that you can get

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that you could have been a champion

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Speaker 1: back then you were so you you had a singular focus.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't gonna happen. Jamie Fox is set to portray

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Speaker 1: up for myself. But what but what? Well, here's the thing, though, Mike,

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Speaker 1: It seems to me now, Mike, you're you're you're very

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Speaker 1: you start to begin a better relationship with God. Okay,

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Speaker 1: because your expiration data's coming up, who said it is?

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Speaker 1: It might not? You might live another fifty one years,

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Speaker 1: So it seems to me, Mike, You're like, at a

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Speaker 1: around and you got well, I'm gonna make a grand interest.

424
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make everybody see me getting in my seat.

425
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: The fight's over. You going back and you're dropping, you

426
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: going back the dressing room because you know nothing to

427
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: guy out people. It was a book. There was there's

428
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: something about a heavyweight fight. I've only been to a handful,

429
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: and I've been to one of your fight. There's nothing

430
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: like it. I've been to a lot of other guys fight,

431
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: and I don't want to call no name, but there's

432
00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: a buzz around you around the heavyweight to god. But

433
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: that's all real, So we don't have to get back

434
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: into it. But how did the incident in the mid nineties,

435
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: How did that change Mike Tyson? How did that did that?

436
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: Do you think that two and a half years away

437
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: from the game of boxing, do you think that had

438
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: a bigger impact on any other thing in Mike Tyson's

439
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: life as a poe in boxing? Well, you know, I

440
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: was never the same fight after I came out of prison.

441
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: But it was just I was still learning life. I was,

442
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, I was making mistakes. I didn't stand on

443
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: the wall. I did something. But the thing, Mike, is

444
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: that your background. I think the thing that I read

445
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: with that by the time you were like thirteen, you

446
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: had been arrested like thirty eight times. So I was

447
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: so I was a streaking the kids. Do we get arrested.

448
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: We robbed, We robbed people, we robbed stores. Anyway, we

449
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: get money, We get money. And that's why I was

450
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: arrested a lot of times, but I got away a lot,

451
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: just right. Can I let me ask you this, Mike.

452
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: Were you not the same boxer when you came out

453
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: or were you not the same person when you came out?

454
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: Pretty much? Both? Pretty much both. Yeah, when you were

455
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: you look at boxing. Look that boxing totally of the business.

456
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: Let's get money, Let's get money, and let's try to

457
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: change their life, get married and all that stuff. So

458
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: prior to that, you looked at boxing gets entertainment. You know,

459
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: money came along with it because you had tons of money.

460
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 1: You had to the white Tigers, and you had to

461
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: rolls Royce. If you had the big homes, the pallational estates.

462
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I didn't have to love for it no more. I

463
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: love to love for it. It It were when you were incarcerated,

464
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: did you spark? Did you do any shadow boxing? Did

465
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: you do it, hit the heavy bag? Or did they

466
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: allow you to do any of that? In there? Allowed

467
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: to use my I couldn't use my my my body

468
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: as a weapon. I cadn't make my body strong because

469
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: it's a weapon. That's what they told me. So in

470
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: my dress and my my set. I was your box

471
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: a day and running place for two hours. Were you

472
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: were you? Were you? If? Were you isolated or were

473
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: you in gym pop? I was in population, but I

474
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: was isolated. A line got to a lot of altercations.

475
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Hold on you may that tell me somebody actually tried you.

476
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: They knew you were Mike Tyson, and people try you. No,

477
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm a troublemaker. Oh so you trying them? I'm I'm

478
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: a real troublemaker. Yes, say I'm saying what Mike? You

479
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: know you had added you were in an advantageous situation.

480
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: You know, why would you? Why why would you say?

481
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm just gonna do. I'm gonna be

482
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a I'm gonna be a model, inmate,

483
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my time. I'm not gonna bother anybody,

484
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: because I know nobody's gonna bother me. You went looking

485
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: for trouble. Well, listen, I didn't believe I need to

486
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: be there, and I'm not gonna let any guard disrespect me.

487
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: So you didn't have a problem with the inmates, you

488
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: had a problem with the guards. Yes, so hold on,

489
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: I was want to make sure I was it was

490
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: it the guard per se or the authoritative figure, because

491
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: that's what the guard is, no matter what you think about,

492
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: he's in an authoritative position. If the position he would

493
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: just say you have to leave, you have to do that,

494
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: You do the heck, get the hell out of here,

495
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: to move your ass. He doesn't say that, right athority

496
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: say that? So you thought they were you think you

497
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: thought they were being disrespectful towards you because of who

498
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: you were. I didn't think of nothing. I thought of

499
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: the words that it came out of his mouth. You

500
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: didn't think that he might have had a bad day.

501
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hear those words coming out of

502
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: his mouth towards me. So, Mike, you know people are

503
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: allowed to have a bad day. Well, this or like

504
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: a regular occurrence, or this wasn't like an isolated or

505
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: was it just one or two guards or was it

506
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: like the general guard population. It was a couple of incidents.

507
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: But I rebound and got over those incidents right, and

508
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: I became those I became almost sex a trust ge. Okay,

509
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: we'll see. Look, Mike, I think the biggest thing that

510
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: a bosser could have is like intimidation. You had that

511
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: because you didn't come out there with no rob on.

512
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: You cut the hotel towel, draped it over you. You

513
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: were all black type black boots, and you had that.

514
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: You were glistening. Listen, you know what. That is intimidation

515
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: and probably the best. It's probably the best part to

516
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: have in sports and everything. But sometimes you could scare

517
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: a guy into kicking your ass. So if is that? So,

518
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. Let's go, let's go

519
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: to Japan. I think that wasn't what ninety ninety one.

520
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: When you're a bust of Douglas. You know, Mike, you

521
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: know on a given day you could beat busted Douglas.

522
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: You five ten times, you beat him ten times ten.

523
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: What happened that night? He was the better fight of

524
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: that night. It's no, I can't take nothing away from him.

525
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I trained hard, really I could have trained harder, but

526
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: he really though the hell of a fight he did.

527
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: He stuck to it. Even when you dropped him and

528
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: he got up on the eight account, I was like, well,

529
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Mike got him. Now, Mike put him down. Mike, he's

530
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: in his groove. And he came back out with the job.

531
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: And to check this out right, by him beating me,

532
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: he catapulted me to even the logical level. I became

533
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: the bigger figure after he beat me, right, and then

534
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: I went to prison. No, then I beat the number

535
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: one contender, and then I went to prayer. I beat

536
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: him twice. Then I went to prison, came out and

537
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: I won two belts. Right. Do you believe then? Do

538
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: you believe? Let measaine this. Do you believe had the

539
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: incident that fent you away for two and a half years,

540
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: had that not happened, how great a fighter would Mike

541
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Tyson have been that didn't happen, Mike Tyson would have died.

542
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: So that was the best thing that ever happened to

543
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. Wow, you really believe that? I know in

544
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: my heart you were on that destructive of a path

545
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: given who you were. Yes, brother, yes, yes, yes, that

546
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: was The best thing that ever happened to me is

547
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: that went to prison. Trust me, mister sharp, I was

548
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: just living a really disgusting life. As Mike. When you're

549
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: alone in your sale, there's no one there but you

550
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: and your innermost thoughts. What's going through your mind? You know,

551
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: when you think of people in general, you meet with

552
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: mythological I'm gone, we're religious, allow who act far, We're superstitious,

553
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: But I'm the black patent frost my fucking past. That's

554
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: my life. Did you ever ask yourself? I'm Mike Tyson.

555
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: I got millions, I got ten houses, I got this.

556
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: How to believe? Did I end up here? Well, that's

557
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: not particularly the question. The question is what do I

558
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: do now that I am here? Okay? So what what

559
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: was a typical day like for from Bike Tyson when

560
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: he was incarcerated? You wake up? At what time? Did

561
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: you have to get up? I got up earlier, but

562
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: they allowed me to work. God, I could run whenever

563
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to run. I was able to eat any

564
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: kind of food I wanted. I really had Listen, that

565
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: was the best three years of my life. Really, I had.

566
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: Really I had a really awesome time to present. You

567
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: said you weren't allowed to use your body because they

568
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: say that was a weapon. Had you been at least

569
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: when you had you been able to hit the heavy bag,

570
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: hit the mids, do things, jump rope, do things of

571
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 1: that nature and you come out. Would you have been

572
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Would you have been a different fighter? No. The only

573
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: way you become a different fighter is foreign. You have

574
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: to you have to practice what you're gonna do in

575
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: the rain. I wasn't able to do that. Well, I'm

576
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: sure if they would have let you, I'm sure some

577
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: of those guys for what you pay a foreign partner

578
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: would have say, okay, Mike, you go ahead and put

579
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: this on the books for your boy, your boy getting there,

580
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: and give you a couple of uns, give you a

581
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: couple of rounds. Works like that when you're incarcerated. But

582
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that, well, mister Gilmore plantation, Mike,

583
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: you love pigeons, and looking at your documentary and reading

584
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: a lot of what you say, hey you may interviewer man,

585
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: you're going, well, thank you. What is it? What is

586
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: it about pigeons that made you gravitate towards I mean

587
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: not eagles, not I mean not just a great majestic bird,

588
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: a pigeon. People look at pigeons, they say they're flying

589
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: rats exactly. But a pigeon makes you feel like an ego.

590
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: It's just the magic they have. We'll put on this

591
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: earth to protect them and take care of them. Right,

592
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: So I'm reading you have you still have? You still

593
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: love pigeons? How many pictures do you think you have?

594
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Currently a couple of hundreds? So so what do you

595
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: what do you do? What do you do with a picture?

596
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Now I've heard about these pigeon races and people raising

597
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: pigeons that they have. Somebody cost thousands and thousands of dollars,

598
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: So what is it that might coach? The highest paid

599
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: pigeon is like one point nine two point one million

600
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: dollars a home? Look at up on your look at

601
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: up on your your phone. Hold on, somebody paid one

602
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: point nine two million dollars for a pigeon. Yes, the Chinese,

603
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: some Chinese businessman was Was he dragging one point eight

604
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: million or one point nine million behind it? No? Not

605
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: at all? A check And listen to bird. He can

606
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: never let the bird out. He don't need for breathing.

607
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: As he let him out, he goes right back to

608
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: his dog. Hold on, so let me get hold on

609
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: top about so and fly hold on so so let

610
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: me get this right. If you got a picture, you

611
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: got pigeons, And I said, well, Mike, sell me one

612
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: of them. You sell me a couple of them. I

613
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: let the pigeons go. They're gonna come back to you. Yes,

614
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: they're only for breathing. Oh the world wold wold, whoa, whoa?

615
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: How do how do how do they? So? How do

616
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: they know? To come back to you? Is what they do?

617
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: That's why they call home and pictures they come home.

618
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: So that so that's why you like them. You like

619
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: everybody had probly muhammed jeans, everybody had pigeons. Pigeons. Pigeons

620
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: has been around the beginning of time. That they're done

621
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: with their crap is worth for righting ancient time. So

622
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: crap right. Some people like dogs, some people like cats,

623
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: some people raise livestock. It's pigeons. What is it about pigeons?

624
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: Is it because like when you raise them, they will

625
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: never forsake you. They will always come back to its

626
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: original owner, which is Mike. Well some of them asking lost.

627
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: You need to have a bird that you raised, he

628
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: was born in your coup and he had slide. When

629
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: he gets lost, you would think, yes, gets lost. No, no, Now, hey,

630
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: what if he didn't get lost? What if something like

631
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: he might have got a hawk, might have got him,

632
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: some other bird of prey. Well I didn't get him,

633
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: somebody didn't. So so so you breathe, So you breathe pigeons? Yes,

634
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: I do. So I want to know some names. What

635
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: what's what's what's the special type of pigeon? If I

636
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: were to get if, I would say, Mike, look here, man,

637
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. Open up me a pigeon operation. Also,

638
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: bro give me some porters. What type of pigeon do

639
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: I need? How many females? How many males? I would say, First,

640
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: what do you want the pigeons for? You want them

641
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: to make money? You want to entertainment, you want for enjoyment.

642
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: What do you want them for? You want to eat them?

643
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: What do you want? Ain't no pigeon, man, Oh, But

644
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: what you want them for? I want it. It seems

645
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: I want to for what you've gotten for for calmness

646
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: they gave, They bring you serenity, they bring you peace.

647
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: So I wanted the pigeon to do the same thing

648
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: for you that it do for me what it did

649
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: for you. You want rollers, then no rollers? Do they

650
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: flying in? They do summersault that It's very entertaining. Those

651
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: are the type of pigures you have, Yes, I do.

652
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: And they come in all colors and they color you.

653
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: It's like, so, what's the difference between a pigeon that

654
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: I see in the park and say a pigeon that

655
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson has not the rollers? What's the difference. The

656
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: difference is that every pigeon in the world comes from

657
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: those pigeons in the street. They call rock pigen and

658
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: all the pictures in the world come from them. It

659
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: was just a guy. It was a gentleman on collective silence.

660
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: I forgot his name the docks to whatever his name was.

661
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: He started taking every pigion they had a white white

662
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: seas and he made it to them until then the

663
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: bird turned all white. And so how many So you

664
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: have a couple of hundred pigeons, do you take them out?

665
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: So you take them out, throw them up in there

666
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: they do summer saulce. How I mean, how long? It

667
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: just opened the door and they fly out? Okay, so

668
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: how long were they out? I leave him out for

669
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: like what thirty minutes, leave my for thirty minutes and

670
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: then they come right back. Well, I anticipate leaving them

671
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. Sometimes they fly so long it might

672
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: be too out. They stay in the air even at nighttime.

673
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think they could see at night, you know,

674
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: mister sharp, And I look at night, they're right in

675
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: the air, and I mean hide in the air at nighttime.

676
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: I can't even see them. They can't see me. And

677
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: you just leave. You just leave the coop open, and

678
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: they'll come back, and they'll come back home if I

679
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: letting him out at twelve o'clock or something. That keeps

680
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: flying till six in the morning. So so why would

681
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: you let why are you why do you let him

682
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: out at that closer at dusk? Why would you let

683
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: him out in like noon? The accident, I was just

684
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: letting them out, and I'm throwing see it, fucking see

685
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: him around. I didn't think there was gonna flat to

686
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: the skin at nighttimes. I always thought a pigeon, yeah night.

687
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: I was wrong, right, yeah, because I don't know him

688
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: to see pigeons at night. I was thinking that like

689
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: their day animal. Because I normal to see him walking

690
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: in the park while I see him flying so back.

691
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: But they fly at night time too, and they fly

692
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: for an hour. So if some if let's just say,

693
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: a boxer comes to you and he says, Mike, what's

694
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: some of the advice that you'd give me, as far

695
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: as not just the ring, but some of the things

696
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: are like my circle, What are some of the things

697
00:39:53,120 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: that you would tell a young boxer that in life, when, when,

698
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: life and ever and whenever somebody wants to be the

699
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: best in the world or something in life, there's always

700
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna be some disappointments, and you have to take those

701
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: disappointments and pretty uh integrated with your determination and never

702
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: never lose and continue to work on your discipline and

703
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: believe that you're the best in the world or whatever

704
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: you're doing, and there's never been anyone better. I heard you.

705
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: I used to I used to tell people that discipline

706
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: is doing your very best when no one else is watching.

707
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: I heard you describe discipline if doing something you hate,

708
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: but doing as if you love it. Yes, exactly. Excuse me,

709
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, did you hate boxing? No? I

710
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: hated training? Oh, okay, I hate a training. That trainer

711
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: is a monster that's really testing it. So that training

712
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: as a monster. But I didn't anyway, So everybody always

713
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: asked me, because I was an ex professional athlete, about

714
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: being with women the night of the day of a game.

715
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: I guess when you go training, when you go to

716
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: training camp, if no women allowed, well no, as it

717
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: starts out that way. But you know some guys, some

718
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: guys do the whole training camp with their families, right,

719
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: depends an individual. When you went away, how did you

720
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: do it? Everything? Shut down everything, no, no anything, no

721
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: food on most no anything. It's hard work and discipline.

722
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: Saw how long? How long was your training camp? Typically

723
00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: six weeks? Six weeks? So, yes, let me ask you

724
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: a question when you were in your prime? Yeah, go ahead,

725
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: What do you say now, Mike, I have fifteen fights

726
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: in one year. So you all on if you had

727
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: fifteen fights in one year, how you stayed in camp? Yo? Yes,

728
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: I was always training, No, not really training, I was

729
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: always fighting, right, well, that fights in one week? Yeah,

730
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: because I was gonna say, if you're fighting that man,

731
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: you ain't got no training camp because basically you fight

732
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: and then two weeks another week later, two weeks later

733
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: you're fighting again. Exactly Mike, do you remember I think

734
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: it was March or April of nineteen ninety six, you

735
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: fraught Frank Bruno. I do remember that fight? What do

736
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,959
Speaker 1: you remember? What do you What do you remember about

737
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: that fight? I remember I wanted the one so bad,

738
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: and I wasn't that. I just wanted to come out

739
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: of prisoner and kind of take over the show again, right.

740
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I remember that. Actually, that was my first heavyweight fight,

741
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: and I remember people talking about the buzz that you

742
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: feel at a heavyweight fight, and they say, not just

743
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: any buzz, because you do realize you're going to see

744
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson. Well, I had followed your whole career. I

745
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: knew who you was, I knew what you accomplished, and

746
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm excited. I'm like, Okay, I'm there's nothing

747
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: like that, Mike. Do you do you feel that electricity

748
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: when you walk into the ring. Can you hear the

749
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: crowd starting to get into a pitch when you're in

750
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: your dressing room? Listen, you're you're in an athlete at

751
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: a very high level. When you're in that mode of relaxation,

752
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: you could hear and see anybody in the arena. Yes,

753
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm a friend after fight, I said, who's that girl

754
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: the red dress you're talking about? He said, Mike, get

755
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: the fuck are you did not see in the ring?

756
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I was talking to that girl. I was telling it

757
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: has a baby. You were very you were very close

758
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: to Tupac and I think that summer that was when

759
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: Tupac ultimately lost his life. I think you were fighting

760
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: Bruce Selden. Yes, do you do you remember? Do you

761
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: remember that fight? Yes? I remember that fight because I

762
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: remember talking to Tupac making sure that he would have

763
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: to tape because I was coming out out of this

764
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: with his music. Yeah. I was calling me taking on

765
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: time because I thought he was gonna be late. Where

766
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: were you when you got the news that Tupac had

767
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: been shot? And where did you? Where were you when

768
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: you got the news that he had ultimately lost his life.

769
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 1: I was in my house because you was back. You

770
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: were living in Vegas at the time, correct, Yes, so

771
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: I was in my house. I just had a brand

772
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: new baby girl, okay, and I and I just couldn't

773
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: believe it because I told him I'm coming to see

774
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: you after I get dressed, and then I have to go.

775
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: I went to the house to see my daughter and

776
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: somebody told me he had got shot, but the next

777
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: morning they had unreleased a head died. Mike every I mean,

778
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: you have one of the most recognizable faces. Everybody know

779
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: who Mike Tyson is. You've been loved. I don't think

780
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: when you were fourteen year old, fourteen years of age,

781
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: you thought you would be as loved and revered as

782
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: you are. Who are some of the most Who are

783
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: some of the people that you've met that you're like, Damn, man,

784
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: that's really cool. I met such and such, I met

785
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: this person yea, when I was in reform school, I

786
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: met Muhammad Ali and that changed everything. Wow. So so

787
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: what what did you ask him? Any questions? What advice

788
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: did he give you? Far from But once I saw us,

789
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: I want to be like that, right, because you saw

790
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: the way the people gathered around if you thought you

791
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: saw the aura that he possessed. Yes, So look, so

792
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: when athletes and entertainers they see you, Now, what did

793
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: they say to you? They tell me where they were

794
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: at certain places when I was doing certain fights. Right,

795
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: and it's about their father, their mother they had. They

796
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: named me after you because I was born in one

797
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: of your fights or something. Do you do you like

798
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: meeting like Michael Jordan or Magic Johnathan or Lebron James

799
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: or this way? Do you do you get up? I mean,

800
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: are you like when you meet people? Do you like, Hey,

801
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool because you see the way they react

802
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: towards you. You know, if anybody gets it humbles you,

803
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: it humbles you. It's just I understand why all both

804
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: athletes respect each other because you have have to be

805
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: around real people and know who you are before somebody

806
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: tells you who you are, right because him, the fathers.

807
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: You gotta take care our kids and all that superstar

808
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: iconic shit, gotta go after window. You know why, Mike,

809
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: Because of an athlete at the highest level, they understand

810
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: the sacrifice and the discipline that it takes. And that's

811
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: what I see people like. I was like, look, everybody

812
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be great or want to ascend to

813
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: that top, top level. And that's okay. Some people just

814
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: want to get a paycheck, go home and live a nice, quiet,

815
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: happy life. But if you want to ascend the heights

816
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: that's never been ascended, there's nothing you can do without

817
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: sacrifice and discipline, and you're gonna have to go somebody.

818
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: Some people don't. Some people do it. They like the sacrifice,

819
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: but they don't like what comes with it. They want

820
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: to sacrifice the win to go hard. They want to

821
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: hang out with the boys, but they don't want to

822
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: come with They don't want what the sacrifice skins. They won't.

823
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: They don't want that shine that skives my kids when

824
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: people come up taking pictures skins the headlight of my

825
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: child My chis to see later dad through. Because let

826
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, how many of your kids

827
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: were around were born when you were fighting. I'm not

828
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: not not that to tail in, but I'm talking about

829
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: when Mike Tyson was Mike Tyson night, when I was

830
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: that guy wasn't a good father, right, That guy wasn't

831
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: a cool father my kids. Like a year or two,

832
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: my kids just started getting tight with me again. But

833
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: but Mike, those are the sacrifices that you're talking about

834
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: that you have to make. You see, you said it yourself.

835
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: You don't believe I understand that. But there's a lot

836
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: of sacrifice and getting it back together too well, I commanded, well,

837
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: I commend you. I commend you for being able to

838
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: get it back together because a lot of times, you know,

839
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: a lot of times when we we we sacrifice. I

840
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: think what they see now, Mike and you, is that

841
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: a lot of your sacrifice was for them. You know

842
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: what kind of say Temster Sharp knowing my kids know

843
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: my kid's gonna say, I'm my grandkids, let's say wow, Dad,

844
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Granddad really looked out for Dad, really looked out because

845
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: you wanted, You wanted for your kids and your grandkids

846
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: more than what you had. You didn't want your kids

847
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: and your grand kids to spend one hour in a

848
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: day that you had of a kid. But listen, listen,

849
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They couldn't handle what I had. That's why

850
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: they have less that they have. Now what what When

851
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: I lived through it kills them. Yes, I tell my

852
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: kids that all the time. You're not You're not built

853
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: to go through what I had to go through to

854
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: make sure that you didn't go through it. Listen, I

855
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: haven't done in at place tennis at a high level.

856
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: But yes, think about this when I when I lost

857
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: the fight, it was closer than going back to Browns

858
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: or going back to lock up. When she wins the fight,

859
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: she goes back to a big mansion, big long property

860
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: and all that because it's totally different phasion. Mike, you've

861
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: had your I mean you want knocked the guy in

862
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. You had start your career. I think you

863
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: had seventeenth straight knockouts. When you land a punch, do

864
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: you know it's will knockout punch when you hit guy

865
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: with it? Not all the time, No, sometimes you throw

866
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: him punch. You thought you missed the perfect punch. The

867
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: guys out cold, he said, Damn, I thought I missed

868
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: that punch. So when you thought when you when you

869
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: throw a punch, are you are you? Are you trying

870
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: to like maybe if I hit him in the chairs

871
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: and he dug it to catch him in his chair?

872
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: Or am I trying to punch a shoulder? What are

873
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: you trying to when you throw a punch? What are

874
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: you trying to hit? What I'm trying to do is

875
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: put the guy in position for to be able to

876
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: hit him where I want to right for the one

877
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: of him against the water, against the ropes, standing there

878
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: still with his hands up like this. This is how

879
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: want So that's when he was club that's when you

880
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: would come with the combo to the body with the uppercut.

881
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: Because when he comes, when he when he's like this,

882
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: you club him to the body, he drops it down.

883
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: Now you come through the guard. Yes, exactly who you are,

884
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: and I don't When I hit him with the appercut,

885
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: it's not hard, but no, whay, they go down me

886
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: because they don't see it. Right. It's the punch that

887
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: you don't see that gets you up out of there.

888
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: Not that hard. The punch to the body's heart of

889
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: it comes up and he don't see it, and that

890
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: what makes him go down. How do you how do you?

891
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: How do you? I mean, how do you get to

892
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 1: the point where you're able to walk a guy into

893
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: a punch? Because you're able because I was watching the

894
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: Rumble in the Jungle documentary and I was watching how

895
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: George Foremer was was like cutting off the ring and

896
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: it was barred. He was just trying to cut the

897
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: ring off because he knew he had a feeling that

898
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Ali was gonna get on his bicycle, So I'm gonna

899
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: try to cut the ring off. How do you walk

900
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: a guy into a punch. You're like, Okay, this is

901
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: what he wants to do. I'm gonna walk him into this. Listen, right,

902
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to walk Muhammed Ali into a punch.

903
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: But you know it's all about setting up people in

904
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: a position, almost like playing chess. That the great position

905
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: and knocked him out of the drop him. Other hit them.

906
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: But you know, fighters got spirit. Sometimes some guy you

907
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: gotta be in the death he is gonna quit. George Foreman,

908
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson of the the the heavyweight. Who who do

909
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: you believe is the hardest puncher? God? Damn? George Foreman

910
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: is pretty hard, you know what I mean? Yes, look

911
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: at all these other guys knock look at the Marnin

912
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: Day heavyweight knockout, and then look at George Foreman knockout.

913
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean really, him and Sunny Listen really beat me.

914
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: They could beat somebody that's the death, right Jack Johnson,

915
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: Well yeah he was great for his time. But I'm

916
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: talking about fighting guys that really know how to fight, right,

917
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: George Man, God, Sunny Listen that beat me in the death?

918
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: Who who do you think is the most technical heavyweight? Mohammed?

919
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: What made what made Mohammed I leave so special? The

920
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: desire to win an ego, So he had to back

921
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: up all after he after he don't talk trash to everybody.

922
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: He had to back that up. Huh. But he believed

923
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: that he was the greatest fight of that guard ever created.

924
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: And he loved himselves more than anybody ever loved himselves

925
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: in their life. Did you you can't beat that? How

926
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: do you beat back? Let me ask you a question.

927
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: Did Mike Tyson love himself more than anybody? And at

928
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: one time? Yeah? Periods I go up and down with

929
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 1: my emotions about me. But it seems that you're Mike,

930
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: just talking to you right now. It seems like you're

931
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: in a very very good place. Yeah, I feel like

932
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: I'm in a good place. But did any think a

933
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: change within the drop of the night? You know? Anything's

934
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: greatly Mike. You have everything. You just talked about the

935
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: mansion that you got with alarms, and you got all

936
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: the cars. I don't think you got any targets anymore.

937
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: But you still got your pigeons life, and you got kids.

938
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: You got great kids. You're great license it's more than that,

939
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: licens even more than that? What what is? What? What

940
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: more is to be surrounded by family that loves you

941
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: and have more and have it all? What don't you

942
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: have that you would you that you would? What does Mike?

943
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: What doesn't Mike Tyson have that he wants. I haven't, mad,

944
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: I haven't reached my highest attention yet. What do you

945
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: what does Mike tych Okay, let's cannot look. Can we

946
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: project over the next two years? What if I say,

947
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: at the age of fifty seven, Mike Tyson will be

948
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: I'd be close to reach my highest potential. That was

949
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: That's what i'man for. Do you do it? Do you

950
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: do social media? No? I don't. I don't not to

951
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: spell that well, so I wouldn't not. You know, you know,

952
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: you know you can get people the do that for you.

953
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: I was just waste the money to me, So you're

954
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: not begging to waste of money anymore. No, I'm into

955
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: really wasting money. He's the one wing for Mike. I

956
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: really throw it away. I don't clay with no money.

957
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: But but I think the thing is so let me

958
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: ask you a question. When you were when you were

959
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: growing up and you had these dreams, you were fighting,

960
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: you landing you in your bed, and you're thinking, what

961
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: were some of the things that Mike Tyson, what were

962
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: some of the things that Man? If I get this,

963
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: I would have made it. If I get that, I

964
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: would have made it. I'm gonna have all this at everything.

965
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: But once, when I didn't have it, I wanted it

966
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: real bad. Once I got it, I didn't want it anymore.

967
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: I heard you say that just exactly what you just said.

968
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: You said you wanted it all, and when you got it,

969
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 1: you was more miserable than when you didn't have it. Yeah,

970
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: having it all is a different perspective. Mike, let me

971
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: ask you. You like sports. Who's your favorite who's your

972
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: favorite football team? Wow, when I'm learning to tell a

973
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: play with the Giants, you're you're LT fan back in

974
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: the day of LT. Okay, what about basketball Michael Jordan's

975
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: I think you like Jordan because his name Mike and

976
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: your name Mike. We're born in the same hospital. The

977
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: NFL has donated one million dollars to study the benefits

978
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: of marijuana. If Commissioner Goodell has called Mike Tyson in

979
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 1: it says, Mike, lay out your best what marijuana does,

980
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: the benefits that it has as far as pain because

981
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: they're trying to get away from the injections, they're trying

982
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: to get away from the pain killers, the peals. What

983
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: what what would you tell Commissioner Goodale that you would

984
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: have to go that is from the history of marijuana.

985
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: They're getting the wrong information. They're misinformed about marijuana is

986
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: not a drug of the medicine. And you could tell

987
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: there's some guys that gave up their career over marijuana.

988
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: So they have they have to make some sense to

989
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: the people that this is not some actually cotton anything.

990
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: It only thing and it only encourages the players to

991
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: play better. Right my perspective of it, I fight better

992
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: when I'm on marijuana or some mushrooms. So what is

993
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: what is Tyson two point zero? What is that gonna

994
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: been tailed? But Tyson two points gonna detail a cannabis

995
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: company with mushroom situation and the psychedelics, and we're gonna

996
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: really pretty much we were in when what eighteen states

997
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: from my four hundred stories, uh huh. And our our

998
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: objectives is to conquer the world with our products. So

999
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: you feel you have the best product the world told

1000
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: me I have the best part the world that the

1001
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: world told you that. Yes, I won the contest, all

1002
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the world championships and stuff. Acting. How did you get

1003
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: into acting? I don't know. I just I have friends

1004
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 1: that were directors and they say he might sit in

1005
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: this movie, Hey might who do this? Do that? And

1006
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: I was never getting paid for that stuff, so I

1007
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: started acting and getting paid for it. What's your favorite movie?

1008
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: You've been in? The Hangover a big time? Everybody? That was?

1009
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: That was that was? That was that was. That was

1010
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: a great movie. Yeah. That put me back on my

1011
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: feet for a minute. Do you let me ask you question.

1012
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: Do you ever sit back and watch some of your

1013
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: fights with your kids or do you have buddies over

1014
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: sometime and you reminiscing like, Okay, let's watch this fight.

1015
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes back come in and my kids, my kids and

1016
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: their friends are watching some of my friensons. The heck,

1017
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: we can't do that in here, okay, shull out. We

1018
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: gotta do on a human mode here. Why you don't

1019
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: watch celebrity? Why you don't? Why why you don't want

1020
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: the kids to watch it? Because sometimes that's the fight.

1021
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: I may call my mother or something else. Cursed that

1022
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: somebody right O God, I want to get you. I

1023
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: want to get you out of here. On these last

1024
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: few questions, Mike Tyson, Fury France and Ningdonald, do you

1025
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: think that do you want to see that fight? Yeah?

1026
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't mind watching it I'll talk about box, not

1027
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: out not Let's let's be specific at boxing match. Would

1028
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: you like to see a boxing match with Tyson Fury

1029
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: and friends and Nincdonald? I like to see anybody fight.

1030
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Oh you just I'll see you. So you just want

1031
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: to see a fight? Yeah? What do you think about

1032
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor, great showman? Do you think he should box?

1033
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: Do you think he should like leave mmm and come

1034
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: over and box? Whatever he's gonna do, he's gonna make

1035
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 1: that ship ton of money. He is he is because

1036
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: he can sell a fight. He's he's as good at

1037
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: selling a fight is anybody that we've had it been.

1038
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: He might, he might, he might rival Alie. I don't

1039
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: think he's as witty and as clever as Ali, but

1040
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: he can sell a fight. Mike, he can sell a fight.

1041
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: People that they said, no way, ain't knowing Nellie as

1042
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: this guy. This guy's a circus show too. He's the

1043
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: traveling circus. Yes, yes he is, Mike. I really appreciate

1044
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: you taking time out of your day and giving me

1045
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 1: a couple of brother man. I appreciate it. Best of luck,

1046
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: whatever you do, keep conquering the world. I'm glad of

1047
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: the man. That I'm interviewing right now. I'm glad what

1048
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: you turned out to be. Bro, I really appreciate you.

1049
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Oh love brother, all the bed, all my life, the grinding,

1050
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle Bay, the price, wanna slice,

1051
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: got the broll, the dice to swath all my life.

1052
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life, All my life,

1053
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: the grinding, all my life, sacrifice, hustle bag, the price,

1054
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: wanna slice, got the brother, dice to swath all my life.

1055
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life.