1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to Clay and Bucks Deep Dive podcast, taking an 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: issue and going a little deeper so you can too. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: If we're picking the worst clip of Mamdani, that's a 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: tough one. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 3: That's a tough one. 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Though there are set definitely some that are now rising 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: to the top. This is a flashback to twenty twenty, 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: and you really see who these Democrats are in twenty 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: twenty talking about this across the board, because that's when 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: it was the They thought there was maximum political advantage 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: to showing you just how left winging and saying they are. 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: Here is Mamdanni back in twenty twenty about the lesson 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: that he learned from nine to eleven and his remembrance 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: of it played too. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 4: I want to use this moment to speak to the 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 4: Muslims of New York City. 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: I want to speak to the memory of my aunt 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: who stopped taking the subway after September eleventh because she 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: did not feel safe in her Headjab Clay, that's the 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: three thousand people died. 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: A war was. 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Launched with a horrific terrorist attack against US, and Mamdanie's 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: concern is and I'm just gonna say this. People are 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: already pointing out that this doesn't seem like it even 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: adds up with whether his aunt was actually in New York, 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: whether she actually wore. 27 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 3: A hit job. 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: But this guy will say anything but for nine to 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: eleven to be about your aunt creating this fear of 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 2: you know, this islamophobia thing. The truth of nine to 31 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: eleven and this, you know, talking to New Yorkers the 32 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: whole country, Americans were incredibly tolerant and decent toward Muslim 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: Americans after nine to eleven, in ninety nine point nine 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: percent of cases. 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: You you find me. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: Another society where someone suffers a massive terrorists sneak attack 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: that kills thousands of people, that is responsible entirely by 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: one religious group with one ideology, and trust me, it 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: would not have gone the way that it went in 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: this country. So the American tolerance after nine to eleven 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: is actually a shiny example. 42 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: Of how decent and reasonable the American people are. 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 5: In my opinion, I think that's all one hundred percent accurate. 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 5: I would also point out that claiming that someone is 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 5: opposed to you because of your identity is not actually 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 5: an argument for or against anything, And I think where 47 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: a lot of you come down on this issue why Black, 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: Asian Hispanic who are out there listening is make me 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 5: an argument that is a good, sound, well constructed argument. 50 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 5: You can't make an argument because it makes me uncomfortable. 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: Is a part of the reason why Democrat party brand 52 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: has collapsed. And so first of all, I think he's 53 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 5: probably lying. Okay, let's start with that second part twenty 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: four years ago when nine to eleven happened. Yeah, like 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 5: the actual victims when we're still cleaning up. This is 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 5: the great Norm MacDonald clip. If I remember correctly from. 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: Back in twenty Was it a tweet or yeah, like 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: it might have been both, but I always remember the tweet. 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 2: Just imagine if America got hit with a nuclear bomb 60 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: in one of our cities. 61 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: Just think of all the Islamophobia. 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 5: Yes, and I mean the whole idea that the people 63 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: who are victims here are not the people that actually died, 64 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: but the people who, in some way were looked on 65 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 5: suspiciously after other people who embraced the same religion decided 66 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 5: to fly airplanes into three different iconic American structures I mean, 67 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: or two different American iconic structures. I mean, I guess again, 68 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: this is that actually goes into was the World Trade 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 5: Center one. You know, this is like one discreete event 70 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 5: or another. That's the lawyer in me going back. But 71 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 5: the discrete tear attacker too. I think you look at 72 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 5: at all of this and I just I watched that 73 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 5: rally Buck because I said, I want to make sure 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 5: that I'm not missing anything. The fourteen thousand people were 75 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: in a stadium setting, they had AOC they had mom Donnie, 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: and we got different clips from that, and I think 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 5: we should play it. But my big takeaway was, no, 78 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: I'm not missing anything here. This is a crazy person's 79 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 5: campaign that is taken over in New York City and. 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: He's according to the odds. I know Sleeve was gonna 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: pull it out. You tell me, fine, but according to 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: the odds, he's looking like the odds on favorite and 83 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: then some and I would say, what we're seeing, Clay. 84 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why nationally this is getting attention, 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: Why people int Texas and California and Missouri and everywhere 86 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: who are with us right now are at least observing 87 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 2: this race with some degree of interest, is this is 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: what left wing populism in America looks like. 89 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: I think they are beginning. 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: To move away a little bit, and it's a temporary 91 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: tactical retreat. They have not repudiated, they have not given 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: up on what many of us now call race communism 93 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: at all, but they are going. 94 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: Back toward a more class warfare. 95 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: Communism really the original communism, and making this all about 96 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: rich have to pay more, government has to give me more. 97 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: And unfortunately very straightforward, everybody thinks that Santa Claus is 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: good when Santa Claus is giving them stuff, and that 99 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: there's no downside, and that only the rich people who 100 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: won't notice it. 101 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Are going to pay. These are all the usual lies. 102 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 2: But this is at the heart of this whole left 103 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: wing populist movement. I mean, here is at the Sunday 104 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: Bernie rally you had or sorry, mam Donnie rally, right, 105 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: but it's Bernie aoc mamdani. 106 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: I mean these right now are the three I. 107 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: Was going to stay shining lights, but what would be 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: a what's a I have to think of some other 109 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: These are the three commissars in chief of the American 110 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: Democrat comedy movement. And here they are listen to what 111 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: the crowd is channing. 112 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 3: Play cut four. 113 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: Let's try to. 114 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 4: H I can hear you. 115 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a stirring speech from New York Governor Hochell there, Okay, 116 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: I can hear you. 117 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: But just so you all know, that crowd is chanting 118 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: tax the rich, tax the rich. 119 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: You know who's listening in New York City right now? 120 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: High earners who are like, hey buck hows South Florida, 121 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Hey Clay, they got some extra houses in Franklin, Tennessee. 122 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: I'd leave. 123 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 5: I mean, I respect the fact that New York City 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 5: has been a great American town for hundreds of years. 125 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 5: If I were one of the people that is having 126 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: a great living and made a great living in New 127 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 5: York City, that you know they are going to come 128 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 5: for and they are going to tax you to excess. 129 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 5: There's lots of great American cities. Maybe in nineteen sixty 130 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 5: or nineteen eighty you felt like you had to stay 131 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 5: in New York City. 132 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Trust me. 133 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 5: Nashville's awesome, Miami is awesome, Dallas pretty great, Houston pretty great, 134 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 5: no state income tax in any of those big cities. 135 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 5: You can get everything that you want in New York 136 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: except you can have a gun. Uh and you can 137 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 5: have zero percent state income tax. Well that's a pretty 138 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 5: good trade. 139 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: A gun is in one. 140 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 5: You can't even you can't even have a gun in 141 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: New York City. 142 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Like no, I know, but I'm saying in these other 143 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: places you're not gonna happen. 144 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 5: You can have it in time, you can have an 145 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 5: entire arsenal, but you can have a gun. I mean, 146 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 5: there are lots of restricted rights in New York City. 147 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 5: And I think New York City is fine to visit, 148 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 5: and I know you still have a ton of family 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: there and sy. 150 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: Is awesome, and Mom Dottie's not going to single handedly 151 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: ruin the city forever, but he's going to make some 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: decisions that, unfortunately the New Yorkers are going to pay 153 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: a price. 154 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 5: The best case scenario for Mom Donnie, best case scenario 155 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: if he wins, is that he's so incompetent because he's 156 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 5: never managed anything in his life. He's never had any 157 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 5: success in life prior to this moment. And you can 158 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 5: go back, you live through it, Buck, It's not a 159 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: surprise to me that the people who have been the 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 5: best mayors have tended to have a lot of experience 161 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 5: in management or business that has prepared them to be 162 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: able to take on the leviathan that is the New 163 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 5: York City government. So I think the best case scenario 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 5: is Mom Donnie is so incompetent that he is not 165 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 5: politically able to enact the agenda that he has run 166 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: to say that he will enact. 167 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: And speaking of that agenda, this has been recently released 168 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: by the Mam Donnie campaign. So my understanding is this 169 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: is not like deep OPO research that we're latching onto 170 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: here or something. Here is Mam Donni. I mean the 171 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: campaigns like look at mom Donnie, look at U gradies. 172 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: Here he is talking. 173 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: About how when you get the problem on buses And 174 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: I have ridden on New York City buses many many times. 175 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 3: I'll tell you this. 176 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: My high school are sports teams used to have to 177 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: travel the games because we had a very limited budget. 178 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 3: It was a scholarship school. Travel on public buses. 179 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 5: City buses. In your bus forms, you would just get 180 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 5: on with like your yeah. 181 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: We would get on with like fifteen of us or whatever, 182 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 2: and we would get on the city bus. I've been 183 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: on buses many, many, many times. Here is Mamdani. This 184 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: is cut three saying if we just make all the 185 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: buses free, some of the problems we see will get better. 186 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: Play it. You have a fair box on a bus. 187 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: It increases the sight, of tension, of conflict, of assaults 188 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: when you. 189 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: Reduce when you remove that farebox. 190 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Rather, what you find is a safer experience, not just 191 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: for the riders but also for the operators. Clay, this 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 2: is like saying, hey, you know what the problem is. 193 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: And all these drug stores in New York that have 194 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: to have everything locked up, they expect to be paid 195 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: for this stuff. You don't what erase the conflict. Let's 196 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: just let them take whatever they want for free. Then 197 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, there's no problem. This is lunacy 198 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 2: from this guy. Lunacy and what you really need to 199 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: have for people who don't pay the fare get a 200 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: big fine. 201 00:10:58,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: I have to do it again. 202 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 2: They get arrested, and if they assault the guy who's 203 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: actually driving the bus, they go to prison. 204 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 5: I have done public transportation a lot in my life 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 5: as well. I rode the public Nashville school bus, public 206 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: Nashville City bus when I was a kid from my school. 207 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 5: You know what people care about the most, safety and cleanliness. 208 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 5: Do you know what making all public transportation buses, in particular, 209 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: say free, is going to do decrease safety and increase 210 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 5: uh der that's going. 211 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: To Maco City buses, mobile homeless shelters. Yes, that's what 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: this will become, which, by the way, already is the 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: case in the New York City subway system, where people 214 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 2: just jump the fair. But you know, if you jump 215 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: the fair in the subway, you know someone doesn't necessarily see. 216 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: If you jump the fair on the bus, everybody sees 217 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: and they know you haven't paid and you're on video. Right, 218 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: it's easier to jump the fare in the subway system, 219 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: but there are whole clay I have experienced this so 220 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: many times, Producer Ali, you can weigh in on this 221 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: either now or we come back from the break. 222 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 3: You'll be like, oh my gosh, this suboy's so crowded. 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: Play it's so crowded. 224 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, look at this. There's an empty subway car 225 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: just for me. And you will go on that subway 226 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: car and it will smell worse than any smell you've 227 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: ever come across in your life, because it is being 228 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: used by homeless people who are deeply mentally ill as 229 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: a toilet. 230 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I would also point out people say, well, 231 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: why do you care about people jumping the turnstiles? Everything else? 232 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Relatively low level crime. 233 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 5: Well, the percentage of times that people are jumping the turnstiles. 234 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: A lot of those guys have outstanding crimes, right, So 235 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 5: when you are arresting somebody who is jumping a turnstyle, 236 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: you oftentimes are going to find out that they have 237 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 5: a criminal history. On top of that, to say nothing 238 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 5: of the evidence supports that when you don't enforce the law, 239 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: you encourage more law breaking. And producer Alley rides subway 240 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 5: all the time. I haven't been on the subway in 241 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 5: a long time. I was trying to think of the 242 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: last time I was on the New York City subway. 243 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 5: I think it was when we were I had my 244 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 5: whole family at Buck, and my middle son, who was 245 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: obsessed with Ghostbusters, wanted to tour the city of New 246 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 5: York to see all the Ghostbuster places dressed as a ghostbuster, 247 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: which is kind of awesome, pretty awesome. 248 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that was a lot of fun. 249 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,479 Speaker 1: This is a Clay in Buck Deep Dive podcast. 250 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 5: I do worry because some arguments are so dumb that 251 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 5: I don't understand how a major political party can make them. 252 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 5: And let me take a step back and say some 253 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 5: things you and I disagree with in policy perspectives. But 254 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: you can make a reasonable argument that you or I 255 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 5: or wrong, or that some of you out there right 256 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: or wrong. There's lots of reasonable minds can differ perspectives. 257 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 5: Freezing rent is actually the most destructive thing you could 258 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: do if you believe you have major issues with uh 259 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: with rent in the city. The thing I mean, this 260 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: is just basic economics. And I know a lot of 261 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: you get this, but maybe your kids don't, maybe your 262 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 5: grandkids don't, And you have to succinctly kind of explain 263 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 5: why this is a lunatic idea. Here is just a 264 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 5: simple argument. It's all supply and demand. Everything in life 265 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 5: is supply and demand. If you want rent to come down, 266 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: then you have to build more apartments and or kick 267 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: illegals that are using these apartments out. This is very basic. 268 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: It is the essence of economics itself. The only way 269 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 5: to drive down cost is to increase the supply of 270 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 5: a good by and large, and yet they are simultaneously 271 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: making it very hard to construct new housing and telling 272 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 5: the people who do own the house, we're going to 273 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: restrict what you can charge, which means the cost is 274 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: going to continue to go up for those who own 275 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: these rental properties, the maintenance costs are going to continue 276 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 5: to go up. Inflation is not stopping for them, which 277 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: means their profit margin is going to go down, which 278 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: means the quality of the rental property will either decline 279 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: or unfortunately, some of these properties will just be taken 280 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 5: off the market because the landlord will throw up their 281 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: hands and say, I'm losing money by renting this property out. 282 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: If they have the ability to do so, they'll just 283 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 5: pull it off the market, which will mean that rents 284 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 5: are continuing to increase overall because the supply is declining. What. 285 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 5: I don't even understand the argument that a rational human 286 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 5: being could make that freeze the rent is in any 287 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: way beneficial for people, even if you believe that rental 288 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 5: costs are too high. I mean, you lived in New 289 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 5: York City. I see what people have to pay for 290 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 5: homes in New York City to rent. Just we have 291 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 5: to build way more homes. I mean, I don't understand 292 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 5: how this is not the ultimate solution. 293 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a few things here for everyone I 294 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: think to consider. One is, and this was even higher 295 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 2: than I thought it was. 296 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 3: If you were to just. 297 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: Take ack a quick look at what the cost of 298 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: new multifamily is in this country nationwide on average, and 299 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: how much of that is taxes, regulations, fees, meaning not 300 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 2: just oh, I want to hire people and get stuff 301 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: to make a home, and you know by land, hire 302 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: a construction crew, have them make it and sell it, 303 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: but all the other things. Estimate that I just found 304 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: online just with a quick search clay is forty percent 305 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 2: forty percent of the cost. I tried to find a 306 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: specific New York City cost and all they can really 307 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 2: say is that it, whatever it is, it's higher than 308 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 2: forty percent. 309 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: And there are reasons for that. There are reasons for this. 310 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: Well, one thing, by the way, in New York City, 311 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: building codes alone, building codes are eleven percent of the cost. 312 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:29,239 Speaker 2: Inclusionary zoning mandates are seven percent of the cost. You know, 313 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: you go through these things to say, well, hold on 314 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: a second. And another one is again talking multifamily here, right, 315 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: because that's the only way you got to build up 316 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: in New York for it to be worth worthwhile in 317 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: New York City it's very hard. You know, you're not 318 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: building like a you know, on two acres, a single 319 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: family home unless you're going to sell it for twenty 320 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: million bucks. So they look at this, or rather you 321 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: look at this, and you find out that also the 322 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: fact that New York City labor costs are so high, 323 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: and that there's all these union mandates for labor, and 324 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 2: you have all these things, and these are the reasons 325 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: that there's not more housing supply, and the idea of 326 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: freezing rent makes it worse. Give you an example of this, everybody, 327 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: You could look at a lot of things that ruin 328 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 2: the economy. I mean, Venezuela is now a failed state. 329 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: Maybe it's going to get a new regime soon, it's 330 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: a failed state. It's a narco traffick or state. And 331 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: we don't even hear about the economy anymore one because 332 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: I think it's so hard to get real numbers. 333 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 3: But it's been completely destroyed. 334 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 2: One of the primary ways that Chavez and then Maduro 335 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 2: destroyed the Venezuelan economy was price controls, because people who 336 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: are hurting and who don't have very much here, Hey, 337 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: these guys are going to use government force to say 338 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: that the cost of this washing machine isn't three hundred dollars, 339 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: it's one hundred dollars and that sounds great, right, Oh 340 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: my gosh, Now, my watch they mandate, and only the 341 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: fat catch are going to pay. You know what happens, Clay, 342 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: No one can buy a washing machine anymore. 343 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: No one can. 344 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 2: Actually, they their shelves are empty. Right, This is what 345 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: is going on in the New York City housing market, 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: red large, and yet Mamdani is about to become mayor 347 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 2: thinking of this stuff. 348 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: As the answer. 349 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: It is so destructive, it is so damaging, and it's 350 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: essentially a repudiation of the free market replaced with social justice. 351 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: It's calming nonsense. 352 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: You're listening to a special Clay and Buck deep Dive podcast. 353 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: The Obama administration. Claire, remember Michelle Obamas Let's Move campaign. 354 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: There was along with that when she was first lady. 355 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm taking you back a decade, folks. There was a 356 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: food desert, the whole food desert thing. You know, you 357 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 2: don't hear that term very much anymore. 358 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 3: And the whole. 359 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 2: Premise of the food desert was low income people. They're 360 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: obviously not starving. Right to your point is it's not 361 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: that there's no food, but they don't. 362 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: Have access to. 363 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: Lean, lean cuts of steak and organic chalae and and 364 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: the thing. You know, these things that are generally considered 365 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: more kind of upper end income lifestyle food choices. So 366 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: they created this pilot program where not only did they 367 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: bring in Farmers Market produce into New York City. New 368 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 2: York Times had all these stories on this. The reason 369 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: there's a reason I'm gonna tell you why you don't 370 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: hear about this anymore farmers Market produce into all of 371 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: these different cities or all of these different stores rather 372 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: subsidized did clay. 373 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: The government said we're. 374 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: Gonna make this army want you to make healthier choices, 375 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: so we're gonna make the healthier choices cheaper. 376 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: So they truck the food into these low income neighborhoods. 377 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: There's a whole pr campaign around letting people know, hey, 378 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: you can get all the archisanal wildflower honey you want now, 379 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: you know, telling everybody in low income neighborhoods of New 380 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: York and bring it to what's artificially cheaper. So now 381 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: it's not oh, I have to get like the off 382 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: brand potato chips, because now it's oh my gosh, I 383 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: can do you know how much they were able to 384 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: change the buying habits in these neighborhoods. Zero They were 385 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: not able to statistically in any way measure any change 386 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: in the buying habits of So unless you're going to 387 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 2: force feed low income people the quote healthy organic, blah blah, 388 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: all that stuff. They just want to eat what they 389 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: want to eat. Yeah, I think there's very important lessons 390 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: here about the free market and about economics and choice 391 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: and central planning. And you look at someone like mom Donnie. 392 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: He's saying, I want to set up government owned grocery stores. 393 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 3: Clay. 394 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: They had those in the Soviet Union. It did not 395 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: work out well. Have them in Cuba now to get meat. 396 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 2: They have them in Cuba. 397 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 5: Every now and then you will see video of all 398 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: the people in Cuba lining up to try to go 399 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: into their government run stores. They're never anything on the shelves. 400 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: And this is again, this goes to a just complete 401 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 5: failure to understand basic business. If you were going to 402 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 5: go in business, a grocery store and many of you 403 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: out there have been involved in this in the past, 404 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 5: has one of the tiniest profit margins of any business. 405 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 5: It is a high volume, low profit based business. One 406 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: reason if you walk around and you look at grocery 407 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: store shelves that grocery stores themselves produce generic versions of 408 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: doritos or generic versions of soda is because that's much 409 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: higher profit margin than the brand name. So to speak 410 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 5: out there, and it is just it's akin to someone 411 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 5: saying as sometimes you will hear, oh, these gas stations 412 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 5: the price of gas, They're making so much money, and 413 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 5: you say, wait a minute, you realize gas stations make 414 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 5: almost no money on gas. Right, It is a lost 415 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 5: leader very often, as many of you who have run 416 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 5: gas stations know, the way that gas stations make profit 417 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 5: is typically off of the store. So when you walk 418 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 5: inside and you buy products, you buy a drink, or 419 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: you buy a lottery ticket, or you buy something in 420 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: a gas station, that's how the business is run. And 421 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: so when you have people like Mamdani and Buck, you 422 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 5: know this better than anybody. 423 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 3: But one of the. 424 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 5: Toughest places to be bringing product into is New York 425 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 5: City because the streets are narrow like, the trucks are complicated. 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 5: The cost of bringing in all that product and trying 427 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 5: to deliver it to so many different stores. It is 428 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard from a 429 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: politician that they're going to make groceries more affordable by 430 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 5: getting the government in the grocery business, and you. 431 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: Have you have the green energy, you know, climate change 432 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: maniacs who have decided that we can't have any more 433 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: places to park, and we have fewer fewer lanes to 434 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 2: force people onto buses. And now we're gonna if mamdani wins, 435 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: gonna have buses with no fare, so they're just going 436 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 2: to be traveling homeless terminals that smell like urine, god 437 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: knows what else. And they do all this clay and 438 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: what happens, and this is again the cause and effect 439 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: reality of central planning by kami morons. People would be 440 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 2: staggered to know how many parking tickets are written every 441 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 2: day in Manhattan in particular, and how that actually becomes 442 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: a tax on all businesses because to get your deliveries, 443 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: all of your delivery guys for all of your restaurants 444 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: and all of your supermarkets and everything are constantly getting 445 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: tickets that go to the city of New York, and 446 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: so there's an addition that's just a tax because it 447 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: raises the cost of delivering food or raises the cost 448 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: of delivering goods and services. All of this made worse 449 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: by people in city hall in New York and by 450 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: the way, any Democrat city across the country that's following 451 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: the similar playbook, it's all made worse by their decisions 452 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: all the time. 453 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: All they do is make things worse most of the time. 454 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: I mean, that's really what you see. 455 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 2: And Mamdani is certainly going to be somebody who falls 456 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: into that category. 457 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 3: It's very frustrating. 458 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Fine deep dives in the Klay and Buck podcast feed 459 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 460 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 5: Also voters going to the polls in New Jersey, Virginia 461 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: and elsewhere. As we are continuing to break all that down, 462 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 5: we've been talking a lot about Mom, Donnie Cuomo and Sliwa, 463 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 5: and the Republican nominee for the New York City Mayor's 464 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: office is in with us now. He is Curtis Sliwa. 465 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: And Curtis, we appreciate you coming on the show, and 466 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 5: I know that you are running around like crazy talking everywhere. 467 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: So I'm just going to start off. Let's just dive 468 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: right into it. 469 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 5: I have pledged if you win, so you know, to 470 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 5: wear a red beret for a week and open up 471 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 5: a bar tab at a sports bar not run by 472 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 5: communists in New York City. So I'm on the record there. 473 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 5: If you win, here's my concern. You can tell me 474 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 5: why I'm a moron. If you stay in this race, 475 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 5: I think on Wednesday we are going to wake up 476 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: and we are going to see that Mam Donni did 477 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 5: not get the majority of the vote, but that you 478 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: and Andrew Cuomo have split the anti Mam Donnie vote 479 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: and as a result, this awful Marxist, left wing lunatic 480 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 5: Mam Donnie is going to be the next mayor of 481 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 5: New York City. If that happens, will you feel responsible? 482 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: How would you respond to someone like me who thinks 483 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 5: that that's the most likely outcome if you stay in 484 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 5: the race. 485 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 4: Well, let's go back to your initial statement. That's too 486 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 4: easy at a bartab in a Gin mail. How about 487 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 4: writing the number four Jane the muggers express with me 488 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: and your red beret fighting crime. Yeah, yeah, that's a 489 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 4: little more dangerous. 490 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 5: But on this right, I will join you on whatever 491 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 5: public transit you would like me to join you on. 492 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 5: If you are New York City's mayor in a red beret, 493 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: I will join you. So I'll I'll step it up 494 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 5: a notch but. 495 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: Remember, wait, is that Aget the reason there is a 496 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: Zorhan Mandami. He said, you had a failed mayor, Eric Adams, 497 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 4: the most corrupt in the history of New York City. 498 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: And that's saying a lot. Had he been a halfway 499 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 4: decent mayor, it would have been round two twenty twenty five, 500 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: as it was in twenty twenty one. Eric Adams in 501 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 4: coming Democrat running against Republican challenger Curtis Leewer. So Eric 502 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: Adams failed Democrat, then into a Cuomo like a political zombie. 503 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 4: Came back from the Hamptons where he was hanging out 504 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 4: with his billionaire friends with forty points ahead on March 505 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 4: first when he announced he was running in the Democratic 506 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 4: primary to become the next mayor. Three and a half 507 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 4: months later, with zarn Mondami at one percent, when in 508 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: who announced that forty percent, he got beat by thirteen 509 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: percent and admitted he ran an horrible race. He didn't 510 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: do retail politics. Well, guess what. Just recently The New 511 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 4: York Post published a story that said that Enton Clomo 512 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: has been absent from the campaign trail for ten days 513 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 4: since Labor Day. You don't win elections that way. I'm 514 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: in the subways. I'm in the streets, I'm on the buses. 515 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: I'm meeting the people, the voters. I am the Republican populist, 516 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: blue collar, working class Kennedy. That's my pathway to victory. 517 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 4: Andrew Cmo is responsible for the rise of zo on 518 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 4: Mondami and the Democrats are responsible for the socialists taking 519 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 4: over their party. So why would I even drop out? 520 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 4: And by the way, you can't drop out. I'm on 521 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: the ballot now, I'm not on the number two line 522 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: on the Republican canndy. There's no dropping out. I've never 523 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 4: intended to drop out. Billionaires tried to bribe me with 524 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: ten million dollars. Now I got to walk around with 525 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: armed guards along with my wife Nancy, because our lives 526 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: have been threatened. You really think that courteously, with everything 527 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 4: I've been through in my life, is going to drop out. 528 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: Think of that last scene in Braveheart where mel Gibson 529 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: is on the gurney and the Insecutionna says, I want 530 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 4: you to bow to the King of England or I'm 531 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: gonna impale you. I'm saying impale me. I will never 532 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: support angew Cuomo, the Prince of evil. He's cold, hearted. 533 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: He is the worst of what the Democratic Party represents. 534 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 5: Okay, So if I am right though, and Mam Donnie 535 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 5: wins because you and Cuomo split the anti Mam Donni vote, 536 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 5: is it your contention that Mam Donni is not gonna 537 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 5: be worse than Cuomo would be. And by the way, 538 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: Bucket not neither Buck nor I have any love loss 539 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 5: for Cuomo at all, and Bucks you've won Buck over 540 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 5: with your brave heart analogy there. 541 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: Yes, but I'm gonna say that's that's all I needed 542 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 3: to hear. But go ahead. 543 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 5: But if if Mam Donnie is elected, do you not 544 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 5: think that he will be worse for New York City 545 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 5: than Cuomo? Or do you think they're both so awful 546 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 5: there's no distinction at all, no matter who would win it. 547 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 4: There, Well, the reason that we lock up twoth fast 548 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: and our criminals is the archit of no cash bail, 549 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 4: Andrew Cuomo and then his apprentice is Ohamandami. Guys, My 550 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: oldest son Anthony was nearly king killed and a gang 551 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: attack juveniles. They stomped him. He's lucky to have survived 552 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,239 Speaker 4: because of the architect of raised the age, Cuomo and 553 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: his supporter on that the apprentice or a Mandami. These 554 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 4: five juveniles who should have gone to criminal court and 555 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: been charged with adult crimes, went to family court and 556 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 4: were released on their own recognisance to their parents. And then, lastly, 557 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 4: Governor Cuomo when he was in charge ten years ago 558 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: before he fled impeachment to the Hamptons, he was the 559 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 4: architect of closing our prison Rykers Island. And his apprentice, 560 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 4: Johan Mandami, they both have led to the crime crisis 561 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 4: that we're in now. I see no differentiation. They are 562 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: birds of a feather, two peas in a pod. They're Democrats. 563 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 4: They have caused the destruction of New York State. They're 564 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: looking to destroy New York City. And again, Andrew Cuomo 565 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: has only himself to blame for Johan Mandami being the 566 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: Democratic nominee because he didn't run a race. So I'm 567 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 4: the Republican. I have Republican values completely different than my adversaries. 568 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: I believe this is a strange notion in America, isn't it? 569 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: Democracy should prevail. The billionaires aren't going to choose the mayor, 570 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: or the influences or the inside is the people, one person, 571 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: one vote, Let the people choose the next Mayor. Cuomo 572 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 4: has already signaled that if he loses his are On Mondami, 573 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 4: he's fleeing to Florida. I stay, I fight for what 574 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: I know is right, improved. Don't move. If I happen 575 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: to lose his on, I will become his worst night mare. 576 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 4: Twenty four seven, three six y five. I fight, fight, fight, fight. 577 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 4: Cuomo runs, runs, runs, runs. 578 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 3: All right. 579 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: So, now the other New Yorker here, Curtis, wants to 580 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: jump in. I wanted Clay to be able to get 581 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: out there because he's been he's been worried about the. 582 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: Ticket splitting issue. 583 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: I just want to throw out there that I think 584 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: blue Face paint a La Braveheart along with your red 585 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: beret would be a good look in these final days, 586 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: because that is a fantastic movie. And now to his point, 587 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: you have won me over with your fight to the 588 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: very end. But tell me this, how is it that 589 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: you could win? Is it that all the polls, if 590 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: you win based on what the so called intelligentsia and 591 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: the political political class, pundits, et cetera, based on what 592 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: they've been saying, it would be the biggest upset. 593 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 594 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: I mean, certainly along the lines of Trump twenty sixteen 595 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: bigger than that based on the numbers. 596 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: What do you say to those people who are. 597 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: Telling you you're a long shot, you're a no shot, 598 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: and you're just helping the other side, right, how do 599 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: you win? 600 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 3: What's your pathway look like? 601 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 4: Last time I ran against Serry Adams, and remember I 602 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 4: did want everybody he would be corrupt and it would 603 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: be chaos. I was right about that. I got twenty 604 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: eight percent of the vote. So I build on the 605 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: twenty eight percent. I not only have can show the 606 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: Republican votes. There are two and a half times the 607 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: number of independents, and there are Republicans. I have that vote, 608 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: and I have a new line, independent line protect the animals, 609 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: first time ever in electoral history. My wife was able 610 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: to get the signatures to qualify it. It's the first 611 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 4: independent line on the ballot. Try to find Angel Cuomo 612 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 4: in the maze very difficult. And it calls for no 613 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: killed shelters and put animal abuses in jail. Let me 614 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 4: tell you something, there are a lot of women and 615 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 4: men who are one issue voters out there when it 616 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 4: comes to animals. Mahatma Gandhi said, it's a society that 617 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 4: does not take care of its animals, does not take 618 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 4: care of its people. And look at us here in 619 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: New York City. We don't take care of our homeless, 620 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 4: our emotionally disturbed, our veterans. But Cuomo supported the seven 621 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: billion dollars that Eric Adams spent on illegal aliens, people 622 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 4: we didn't even know. I want to take care of 623 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 4: our own. It's time we bring it home and care 624 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: for our homeless, are emotionally and most importantly, our veterans 625 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 4: who have been forshaken. You don't hear almost saying that, 626 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: and naturally you don't hear. 627 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: The artist Curtis. I love the protect animals thing. 628 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: I love dogs as much as any human being I've 629 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: ever met, and other animals too, So I think that's fantastic. 630 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: But I want to ask you about this, the Mam 631 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: Donnie shape shifting situation here, or the code switching, the 632 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 2: changing it up on some of the stuff. For example, 633 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 2: now he's saying he would keep Jessica Tish, who I 634 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: actually worked with at the NYPD many years ago, keep 635 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 2: her in the commissioner role. 636 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: What do you make of that? 637 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, is it just'll say anything to make people 638 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: not as scared of his communist nonsense as they should be. 639 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 3: What's going on, Well. 640 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: He's built the basio on steroids. Now remember he's more 641 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: dangerous because build the basio halfway through the night would 642 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 4: be on the Backboarch your Graycie mansion, smoking his Maui 643 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: Wowie and hindukush with his grip to wipe Charlette with 644 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 4: Zara Mondami. He would give twenty hours at day to 645 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 4: destroying the city. But Deblasio, when he was running in 646 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, said I will choose Bill Bratton as my 647 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 4: police commissioner. That was his insurance policy. So he's following 648 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 4: in the footsteps of his mentor build de Blasio by 649 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: saying I will keep Jessica Tish. The question is if 650 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 4: you should win pull Jessica tis stay. I don't know. 651 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't have conversations with her. I've got my boots 652 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 4: on the ground. I'm in the subways. I'm dealing with regular, 653 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 4: average day, working class people. I'll let the elites determine 654 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: that while I'm in the streets. 655 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: Curtis Lee will with us right now running Republican nominee 656 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 5: for mayor of New York City. You mentioned right off 657 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 5: the top that you've been offered ten million dollars to 658 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 5: drop out by billionaires. 659 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 3: What do those offers look like? 660 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 5: And will you tell us who's been offering for you 661 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 5: to be paid to drop out of the race. 662 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, there were seven calls that I fielded from 663 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: people I grew up with that are not supporting me. 664 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 4: They're supporting Roma, which is fine, but they were calling 665 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: on his behalf for me to drop out. And the 666 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 4: last call, which my wife listened to, who is a 667 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 4: attorney Nancy, got to the point where I said no, no, 668 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 4: a thousand times no. And then he said, Curtis, everybody 669 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 4: has a price. Ten million dollars is a lot of 670 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 4: money to walk away from. I said, guy, you know me. 671 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,280 Speaker 4: I was born with nothing. I'll die with nothing. Ashes 672 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 4: to ashes, dust that dust. This sounds to me unethical. 673 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: It's a bribe. He could be illegal. And from that 674 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 4: day forward, my wife said, look, you got to put 675 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: everybody on blast that if they're going to talk to 676 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 4: you about bribing you, you're going to be wired up 677 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: like a Christmas tree, which I am now and there've 678 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: been no call since now. The people who reached me 679 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 4: have family people, they have businesses, in the business of politics, 680 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 4: which you know is the dirtiest business of all. Just 681 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 4: asked the founder of UFC. He said the same thing, 682 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: that dirty his business. I give these guys a past. 683 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 4: They know not what they do. But anybody moving forward, Hey, 684 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 4: you're going to be prosecuted for obviously illegalities and for 685 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 4: what are corruptive practices. 686 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 5: Have you talked to Donald Trump? He has discussed your candidacy. 687 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 5: He's talked about the fact that sometimes he wishes you 688 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: would drop out because he's concerned about mom Donnie becoming 689 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 5: the mayor of New York City. 690 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: Have you talked to Trump? 691 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 5: What have those conversations been like. 692 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 4: No, I am not spoken to the president recently. For 693 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 4: forty years, I knew Donald Trump as a New Yorker. 694 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: We had a love hate relationship like most people had 695 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 4: with Donald Trump. I mean, you look at his vice president, 696 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 4: Jade Van's doing a great job. He called them hitler 697 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 4: in twenty sixteen, and now he's a vice president. So 698 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: I've been on the roller coaster with Donald Trump. Like 699 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 4: most people. He's not reached out to me. He's not 700 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 4: talked to me. He certainly has had conversations with Andrew 701 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,479 Speaker 4: Cuomo and with Eric Adams, and the President is free 702 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: to do what he wishes. I wish he endorse me. 703 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't, but I've always said he said publicly, mister President, 704 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 4: you're trying to get peace in the Middle East and 705 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: Persian Gulf that you're the only guy who can do that. 706 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: You got to get peace between Russia and Ukraine. You're 707 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 4: the only guy who can do that. He's dealing with 708 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 4: Asia now and the Red Chinese menace. He's the only 709 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 4: guy who can deal with that comparably to those bigger issues. 710 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 4: Do you think weighing in on the mayoral race in 711 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,880 Speaker 4: New York City is equal to those? I don't think so. 712 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 4: And by the way, Zoraan Mandami loves it, because then 713 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 4: he plays David to Goliath. He doesn't want to run 714 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 4: against Andrew Cuomoa courtes leeway. He wants to run against 715 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, who happens not to be very popular in 716 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: New York City. He isn't around the country, he is 717 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 4: in other parts of New York State. The benefit of 718 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: my running and winning a mayoral election as a Republican 719 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 4: is it's nineteen ninety three all over again. Rudy Giuliani won. 720 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 4: I am Rudy Juliani two point zero, and next year 721 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: we set it up the way it was in ninety 722 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 4: four when Pataki beat the better Cuomo Mario and we 723 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: had not only competence, no corruption, no chaos. Crime went 724 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: down with Rudy and with Pataki. You elect me the 725 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 4: Republican mayor, and then we pull out all the stops 726 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 4: to elect congresswoman at least Stafonik the governor next year 727 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 4: Republican Kennedy, and we can return to the days of 728 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 4: Giuliani and Pataki and send Kathy Hokol packing back to Buffalo. 729 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 2: All right, Curtis, real quick, we only have thirty seconds 730 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: before we get into heartbreak. 731 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: Here. 732 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 2: Where can people go? We got a big wor audience. 733 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: I want to mobilize for you. What's the site? What 734 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: do they do? 735 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 4: Just go to sliwa for NYC dot com. That sliwa 736 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 4: fo r NYC dot com. 737 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Hey, Curtis, thank you, bring home the w 738 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: and Clay's gonna wear that red beret. 739 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: I'll wear one too, Actually, thank you so much. 740 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: Curtis could use some rapid radios while patrolling the sub 741 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 2: with the Guardian Angels. Look, you've heard us talking about 742 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: rapid radios before. They keep you connected to people, particularly 743 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 2: when you experience service disruptions caused by natural disasters or 744 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 2: power outages. 745 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: Rapid radios are. 746 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 2: Small, can slip into your purse or even a coat pocket, 747 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 2: but want their size fool you. They go five days 748 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: without a charge and connect to anyone anywhere in the 749 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: US that's also carrying one. That's because they work on 750 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 2: a nationwide LTE network. Let's just say these walkie talkies 751 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: have come a long way since we were kids. Storms 752 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: don't wait for the right time. 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