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Speaker 1: This is twenty four, a weekly highlight reel from the

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show featuring all things election coverage.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started. Here are Clay and Bucks. I want

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Speaker 2: to start with what I think is one of the

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Speaker 2: biggest stories of the twenty first century, so far as

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Speaker 2: it pertains to the First Amendment, to censorship to big tech.

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Speaker 2: Many of you out there know my background, but in

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Speaker 2: the event that you don't, I came in writing about

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Speaker 2: sports when I was a young lawyer back in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and four. I was twenty five years old. I

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Speaker 2: was a litigator. I was working in the United States

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Speaker 2: Virgin Islands, and yes, believe it or not, I was

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Speaker 2: like the Tom Cruise character in the firm, except not

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Speaker 2: anywhere near as good looking and not engaged in criminal

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Speaker 2: behavior as a lawyer. But I got married, moved to

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Speaker 2: the US Virgin Islands. I'm still an attorney in the

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Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands, also here in Tennessee. But I had

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Speaker 2: something that's actually very common these days for young people.

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Speaker 2: I had what they call a quarter life crisis. And

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Speaker 2: I was there. I was twenty five years old. I

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Speaker 2: was making more money as a practicing attorney, living in

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Speaker 2: the Caribbean than my parents had ever made in their

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Speaker 2: entire careers. Neither of my parents ever made fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars a year. They were State of Tennessee employees. I

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Speaker 2: was making good money, young, pretty wife, no kids, no obligations,

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Speaker 2: living in the Caribbean. And I said, uh oh. I

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Speaker 2: had a vision of the next forty years of my life.

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Speaker 2: And it was one motion after another, litigation on into

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Speaker 2: the future forever. And I said, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: do this. I said, this is not for me. I

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Speaker 2: loved law school. I love the theory of the law,

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Speaker 2: debating legal issues. Maybe I would have enjoyed, on some

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Speaker 2: level being a judge, but I would have been a

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Speaker 2: trial lawyer. That's what I would have been. This is

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Speaker 2: not a huge surprise. If I had stayed and continued practice,

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Speaker 2: I would have been a trial lawyer. I like thinking

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Speaker 2: I like talking to people. I would have been a

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Speaker 2: office litigator, which is what a lot of young lawyers do.

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Speaker 2: You got to pay off the loans you go, you

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Speaker 2: sit in a office, you review documents, you file motions,

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Speaker 2: all those things. So my escape was I started writing

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Speaker 2: about sports. That was my escape, my mental break from

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Speaker 2: what was otherwise a very serious world. And I wasn't

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Speaker 2: excited about being a lawyer. I was able to parlay

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Speaker 2: writing into making your career, and I ended up founding

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Speaker 2: a site called OutKick in twenty eleven after I got fired.

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Speaker 2: I got fired at FanHouse. They shut down the whole site.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't anything that I had done wrong, but not

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Speaker 2: very long ago. In twenty eleven, thirteen years ago, I

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Speaker 2: I've been working so hard to try to make a

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Speaker 2: As I'd go on and talk about the articles that

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Speaker 2: local sports talker radio in Nashville, Tennessee. Some of you

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Speaker 2: running OutKick, we had Donald Trump on the sports talker

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Speaker 2: as you can well imagine, to get the president, sitting

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Speaker 2: In August of twenty twenty. Then we had him on

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Speaker 2: Each time we wrote about it at OutKick, Facebook destroyed

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Speaker 2: send to you. Okay, that's background for why I think

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Speaker 2: I understand this issue better than almost any who works

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Speaker 2: in media, because I've actually run a media online media

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Speaker 2: had to do all these things. This is the biggest

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Speaker 2: twenty first century, and as it pertains to rigging an

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Speaker 2: some time laying it all out for you. But this

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Speaker 2: that I'm about to lay out makes Watergate seem like

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Speaker 2: I've used this analogy before, but I think it's particularly

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Speaker 2: apropos It makes Watergate seem like jaywalking when you talk

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Speaker 2: about criminality, rigging elections and their impact. Mark Zuckerberg yesterday

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Speaker 2: released a letter to Jim Jordan, who's going to be

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan, to his credit, has been investigating big media collusion, censorship,

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Speaker 2: and tech. This is important Now COVID. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: get into COVID. They clearly rigged what you were able

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Speaker 2: Buck and I dealt with this in our media careers.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to focus on that right now,

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Speaker 2: although it is incredibly important. What I want to focus

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Speaker 2: so significant. The FBI warned us about a potential Russian

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Speaker 2: disinformation operation about the Biden family and Beisma in the

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Speaker 2: we shouldn't have demoted the story. We've changed our policies

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Speaker 2: we no longer temporarily demote things in the US while

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Speaker 2: waiting for fact checkers. Okay, this is important. What he

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Speaker 2: this show unpacking why this matters so much. In December

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Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, the FBI seized Hunter Biden's laptop December

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Speaker 2: All of the reporting there was true. The FBI knew

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Speaker 2: because they had confirmed that laptop was real. They knew

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Speaker 2: verifiably accurate. Yet, according to Mark Zuckerberg, the FBI in

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Speaker 2: all the big tech companies that the laptop was Russian

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Speaker 2: disinformation so that they would not believe this story when

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Speaker 2: it actually went public. Who rigged the twenty twenty election

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Speaker 2: inside of the FBI? And why do we still not

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Speaker 2: know who this individual or Indi Visuals was. This is

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Speaker 2: the biggest election interference in the history of our lives,

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Speaker 2: certainly in the history of the twentieth twenty first century

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Speaker 2: and in the Trump era by far. They knew that

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Speaker 2: it in their possession since December of twenty nineteen, but

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election for Joe Biden. Who made that decision?

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Speaker 2: And how has no one been held accountable for the lies?

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Speaker 2: political story of the twenty first century. Our FBI rigged

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Speaker 2: the twenty five twenty election. They knew that laptop was real,

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Speaker 2: and they said it was going to be Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 2: Who ordered the code read there? And how in the

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to the American political process. And scarily,

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Speaker 2: if they did it in twenty twenty, why wouldn't they

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Speaker 1: If you're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact

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Speaker 2: Buck, Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We're

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Speaker 2: joined now on the eve of college football's opening Saturday

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Speaker 2: by Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. I know that

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Speaker 2: you are a big LSU fan. Are you ready for

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Speaker 2: college football season before we dive into the absolutely monster

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Speaker 3: I can't wait, my brother, I need the therapy. And

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Speaker 3: LSU just preseason ranking is thirteen, but we are underrated.

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Speaker 3: You should expect great things for the team this.

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Speaker 2: Year, Southern Cal LSU Sunday. I believe if I remember

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Speaker 2: correctly going on, all right, tons going on in the

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Speaker 2: American political universe. Let's start with this. You are the

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House. The battle for control of the

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Speaker 2: House is going to be tight, going to be decided

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Speaker 2: in many different races all over the country. Last time

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, New York and California in particular, maybe

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Speaker 2: surprising some people, actually was the difference maker in Republicans

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Speaker 2: taking control of the House. How does the map look

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Speaker 2: right now? Where are you seeing as the particularly important battlegrounds?

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Speaker 2: Knowing obviously that the answer is the entire country, But

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Speaker 2: where does the House get decided? In your mind as

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Speaker 2: you look at the full field.

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Speaker 3: The map looks really strong for us In the full

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Speaker 3: field is we're going to have a good run bullish

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Speaker 3: about November. And the reason is I've seen all this

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Speaker 3: with my own two eyes Clay. I've been traveling the

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Speaker 3: country NonStop. We've done events campaign events in one hundred

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Speaker 3: and ninety eight cities across thirty nine states in the

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Speaker 3: last eight months. There's a demographic shift going on in

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Speaker 3: the electorate. We have a record number of new communities

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Speaker 3: of people coming into the Republican Party that haven't been before.

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Speaker 3: Hispanic and Latino voters, Black and African American voters, the

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Speaker 3: Jewish communities very energized for our side right now. You

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Speaker 3: pull that together, you have great political tail winds. And

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Speaker 3: on top of that, we recruited an extraordinary staple of candidates.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Speaker of House Mike Johnson. The other

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Speaker 3: It's absolute madness. She's lying, looking right into the camera,

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Speaker 3: Of course. President Trump was talking about border security before

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Speaker of the House Mike Johnson. July thirteenth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, I put together task force to do that.

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Speaker 2: Last question, I think the biggest story of the week

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Speaker 2: Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, we appreciate the time,

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Speaker 3: You get him, my friend God Bliss, talk you.

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Speaker 2: Soon for sure. That's Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Most Important Tier in

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Speaker 1: Politics with Clay Travis at buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. A lot

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Speaker 2: of you want to weigh in on the significance of

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Speaker 2: of the momentum that Kamala Harris might have otherwise had

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Speaker 2: at the DNC. I want to play for you another

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Speaker 2: cut from RFK Junior. And I might be rare in this,

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Speaker 2: and I understand that I am an old school in

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Speaker 2: this respect. I love to read speeches as opposed to

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Speaker 2: just watch them, because I think you can see the

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Speaker 2: craft of a speech if it's actually written, often in

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Speaker 2: a way that doesn't come through when it's spoken. And

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Speaker 2: that may be the reader in me that loves doing that.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing it my whole career. I would rather

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Speaker 2: go watch, go read a transcript of a press conference

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Speaker 2: than actually watch the press conference itself, and certainly rather

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Speaker 2: than the way the media covers it, because often you

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Speaker 2: pick up up on the actual truth from reading the

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Speaker 2: transcript as opposed to what someone wants to tell you

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Speaker 2: based on what someone said. So while I'm playing a

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Speaker 2: couple of cuts here from what I thought was a

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Speaker 2: magisterial speech and an important one from RFK Junior on

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Speaker 2: Friday endorsing Trump, I would also encourage all of you

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Speaker 2: to go read the speech yourself, or at least watch it.

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Speaker 2: But to me, I don't like to be a single

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Speaker 2: issue voter, but in this respect, I am a single

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Speaker 2: issue voter. If we do not have a complete First

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Speaker 2: Amendment in this country, then no other issue matters. If

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Speaker 2: I can't say to you exactly what I think, and

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Speaker 2: you can't say to me exactly what you think, then

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Speaker 2: the entire marketplace of ideas collapses, and the very foundation

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Speaker 2: of our country is going to follow in that collapse.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm old school in the sense that I believe

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Speaker 2: the only way we get to the best outcome is

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Speaker 2: by a full flourishment of all of our opinions being shared.

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Speaker 2: That means, if you have opinions that I consider to

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Speaker 2: be ridiculous, absurd, and patently untrue, you should still be

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Speaker 2: able to argue them, and I should be able to

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Speaker 2: sit down with you and dispute them and argue against them,

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Speaker 2: and the best man or the best woman's argument should

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Speaker 2: win in the marketplace of ideas. That is the very

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Speaker 2: foundation of the radical idea of government we put in

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Speaker 2: place about two hundred and fifty years ago, was that

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Speaker 2: if you allow the full flourishment of arguments that overtime,

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Speaker 2: the right ideas win. And if you don't allow that,

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Speaker 2: if you artificially circumscsbe what the citizens are able to

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Speaker 2: see and hear, then you end up with a broken

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Speaker 2: policy because you aren't actually considering the full scope of ideas.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, this is why I believe that

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Speaker 2: China and North Korea, and Iran and the Palestinians and

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Speaker 2: the Lebanese and all of the people who live in

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Speaker 2: governments that are not allowing the full scope of ideas

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Speaker 2: to be examined, this is why they're going to fail.

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Speaker 2: In my opinion. China can't win in the twenty first

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Speaker 2: century in my opinion, if its citizens are not able

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Speaker 2: to see what happened in Tianaman Square in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 2: In order to create truly unique, new dynamic ideas, you

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Speaker 2: have to be able to see the full field of information.

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Speaker 2: This is why I was so troubled by COVID in

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Speaker 2: many stretches, because when doctor Fauci says, I am the science,

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Speaker 2: and he restricts the debate about where COVID came from,

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Speaker 2: or how masking works, or whether young children should be

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Speaker 2: getting the COVID shot when they artificially circumscribe what can

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Speaker 2: be said, then our entire political process is broken. And

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Speaker 2: so what spoke to me so well about what RFK

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Speaker 2: Junior said was his embrace of the First Amendment. And

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Speaker 2: if you don't consider anything else. Again, I hate to

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Speaker 2: be a single issue voter, but if you're going to

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Speaker 2: restrict my understanding of information, if you're going to censor

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Speaker 2: the Internet, if you are going to try to artificially

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Speaker 2: curtail what I can be exposed to, and tell me

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Speaker 2: that some ideas are too scary or make some people

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Speaker 2: too uncomfortable and therefore they should not be able to

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Speaker 2: consider them, you are going to be on the wrong

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Speaker 2: side of history. I'm a history guy. You guys know this.

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Speaker 2: Both Buck and I are never in history. Has over

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Speaker 2: time the right side of history been the side that

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Speaker 2: censors what people can see. And some people are gonna say, well,

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Speaker 2: Republicans are censoring what kids can see in libraries.

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Speaker 1: They don't.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, There is a very valid argument for

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Speaker 2: what is age appropriate for kids to see. Don't allow

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Speaker 2: them to gaslight you with that argument. Whether your nine

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Speaker 2: year old should know about transgender sex is not the

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Speaker 2: same thing as government censorship of COVID related shot data.

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Speaker 2: Adults should be able to see the full scope of

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Speaker 2: all arguments, and RFK Junior a huge part of his

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Speaker 2: argument on Friday and endorsing Trump is that Trump is

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Speaker 2: actually the free speech candidate. And if I had to

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Speaker 2: tell you one thing that will probably dictate how I

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Speaker 2: vote for the rest of my life. I'm probably almost

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Speaker 2: always going to vote for the candidate who supports free speech.

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Speaker 2: One reason I get uncomfortable sometimes with political parties is

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Speaker 2: because I don't have faith in politicians to make the

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Speaker 2: right decision twenty years from now. Heck, a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a faith in to make the right

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Speaker 2: decision right now. But it may be that forty years

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Speaker 2: from now, when I'm eighty five, Democrats actually defend free

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Speaker 2: speech better than Republicans. I don't think that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the case. But I think what RFK Junior and

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Speaker 2: I have in common is we're willing to stand on principle,

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Speaker 2: even if that means for RFK Junior turning the back

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Speaker 2: on the legacy political party of his family, The mythical

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Speaker 2: Legacy of Camelot and the Kennedys JFK RFK both assassinated

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty three, nineteen sixty eight. How could RFK make

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Speaker 2: this decision if I had to go to one central

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Speaker 2: element of his speech, It's right here. Democrats don't defend

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Speaker 2: the First Amendment anymore. That's why I've changed the way

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Speaker 2: I vote. I think it's why many of you have

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Speaker 2: changed the way potentially you vote as well. Listen to

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Speaker 2: cut twelve.

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Speaker 4: Mainstream media was once the guardian of the First Amendment

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Speaker 4: and democratic principles and has joined this systemic attack on democracy.

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Speaker 4: It also the media justifies their censorship on the grounds

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Speaker 4: of combating misinformation. But governments and oppressors don't censor lies.

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Speaker 4: They don't fear lies. They fear the truth, and that's

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Speaker 4: what they censor.

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Speaker 2: Amen. I don't like single issue voters, but the single

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Speaker 2: issue that matters the most to me, and I think

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Speaker 2: what resonated the most with many of you out there

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Speaker 2: listening about RFK Junior's campaign was not that you agreed

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Speaker 2: with him on everything. I always say you should never

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Speaker 2: agree with any political candidate or any media figure on everything,

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Speaker 2: because it means that you're being lazy in your thought processes.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you should challenge your own preconceived ideas every

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Speaker 2: single day, and sometimes you should change your mind if

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Speaker 2: the data changes. I'm open to good arguments, but do

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Speaker 2: you know where good arguments come from? A robust and

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Speaker 2: uninhibited First Amendment. Without that, we don't have a free society,

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Speaker 2: and we don't have a free country, and we cannot

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Speaker 2: be the shining city on the hill that Ronald Reagan

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Speaker 2: talked about as a beacon of light for all the

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Speaker 2: world to see. All of it requires an uninhibited, robust,

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Speaker 2: wide open First Amendment, even if that means that sometimes

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Speaker 2: people say things that make you sad and hurt your feelings,

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Speaker 2: and maybe on the boundaries acceptability, I want that we

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Speaker 2: must have it. That's the foundation of RFK Junior's appeal

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Speaker 2: to me, and why I think many of you out

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Speaker 2: there would have been willing to vote for him if

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Speaker 2: he had kept his name on the ballot in the

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Speaker 2: battleground states. Now a lot of you want to weigh

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Speaker 2: in with what I think was a seismic address from

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Speaker 2: RFK Junior on Friday that has an impact that is

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Speaker 2: far more significant than many Democrats want to acknowledge. This

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Speaker 2: is an economy, border crime election. I've been saying it

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Speaker 2: for some time. EBC so long as Trump hammers that

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Speaker 2: he wins. But undergirding all of that economy border crime

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Speaker 2: is we have to have a robust and uninhibited First

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Speaker 2: Amendment to allow arguments to be made and for the

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Speaker 2: truth to rise and for the like to come on

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Speaker 2: in many people's eyes. Every single day, I like to

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Speaker 2: believe that we persuade one or two more people of

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Speaker 2: the importance of the First Amendment on this show, and

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Speaker 2: if we do that over time, that's how you win.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to twenty four The Year of Impact with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay, Travis, Buck Sexton Show. Join now

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Speaker 2: by friend of the show, Taulsey Gabbert. Tulsi, you came

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Speaker 2: on my show. Buck is out already for the holiday.

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Speaker 2: He'll be back on Tuesday, so he wanted to make sure.

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Speaker 2: I said that he looks forward to talking to you

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Speaker 2: again soon as well. But you came on my sports

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Speaker 2: talk radio show back when you were running for president

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Speaker 2: as a Democrat. I was impressed with what I was

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Speaker 2: seeing from you, and I think that our political evolution

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Speaker 2: has really kind of mirrored in many ways because you

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Speaker 2: have voted obviously as a Democrat. You were a congresswoman.

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Speaker 2: For a long time, I used to vote Democrat. The

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Speaker 2: party left us behind, and you now have endorsed Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: You appeared yesterday at a town hall in Wisconsin. For me,

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Speaker 2: it is Democrats fundamentally abandoning free speech. That's my sort

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Speaker 2: of clarion call. I can't support a party that wants

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Speaker 2: to restrict what anyone can say. But a lot of

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Speaker 2: people have made different choices. Elon Musk, you, Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior, myself to a degree, there are tens of

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Speaker 2: millions of us out there. What has the reaction been

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Speaker 2: since you endorsed Trump?

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Speaker 5: The reaction has been largely and quite overwhelmingly positive. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: have gotten some hate mail from strangers and some from

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Speaker 5: people who I have known for many, many years. The

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Speaker 5: interesting thing about the hate mail that I've gotten is

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Speaker 5: that the messages are very vile and quite literally filled

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Speaker 5: with hate. It says a lot about where they're coming

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Speaker 5: from and how they are not actually seeing the truth

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Speaker 5: about what we're facing as a country. It's a personal thing,

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Speaker 5: and yet the people that I'm hearing from not only

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Speaker 5: those who are saying thank you and you proud to

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Speaker 5: stand with you for freedom. I think the most interesting

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Speaker 5: and important thing is who I have heard from and

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Speaker 5: the people I've heard from who have said, Hey, I

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Speaker 5: was a never Trumper until I saw your endorsement of

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Speaker 5: President Trump, until I saw Bobby Kennedy's endorsement of President Trump.

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Speaker 5: And now you're forcing me to look in the mirror

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Speaker 5: and really question about what am I doing to defend freedom?

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Speaker 5: Right now? You guys are reasonable. You were common sense

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Speaker 5: Americans who love our country and cherish peace and freedom.

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Speaker 5: I need to be on that side. And so this

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Speaker 5: is where I see opportunity and what I'm excited about

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Speaker 5: as I've spent the last few days with President Trump.

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Speaker 5: We had a wonderful town hall last night in Wisconsin

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Speaker 5: where we were able to take questions from the audience

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Speaker 5: and really see a very personal and intimate side of

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Speaker 5: Trump speaking directly to voters that we don't often get

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Speaker 5: to see. And I'll just share one quick excerpt if

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Speaker 5: I don't if you don't mind, there was a voter

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Speaker 5: who attended last night who spoke to the Guardian and

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Speaker 5: there was an article today. Her name is Melissa Nelson.

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Speaker 5: She's never voted for a Republican in her life, and

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Speaker 5: she said, if it were not for Tulsea Gabbard's endorsement,

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Speaker 5: she probably would not have supported Trump this year. She

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Speaker 5: was a former Bernie Sanders supporter in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 5: now for the first time in her life, she's going

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Speaker 5: to vote for Donald for a Republican and that Republican

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Speaker 5: is Donald Trump for president.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I appreciate you sharing that anecdote from

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Speaker 2: the event that you did last night with the President

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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin. You know Kamala Harris pretty well as a candidate.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you eviscerated her on the stage. You, unlike her.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to praise you here, have been willing to

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Speaker 2: stand on principal over politics. She is a chameleon. She's

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Speaker 2: not talking to anyone. I don't know if you've had

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Speaker 2: a chance to watch the CNN interview, what did you

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Speaker 2: find Kamala to be like when you ran again against

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Speaker 2: her in twenty twenty. Now you are around President Trump

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Speaker 2: comparing the two as potential commanders in chief. Why is

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Speaker 2: Trump a much better candidate than Kamala And what have

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Speaker 2: you learned about both based on your experience around both.

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Speaker 5: Let me start with let me start with the person,

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Speaker 5: and I can tell you that the Kamala supporters. I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, people are people are a reflection of the

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Speaker 5: person who they are supporting. You know, who you surround

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Speaker 5: yourself with, not not everybody by and large, but who

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Speaker 5: are your core supporters. And there were a number of

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Speaker 5: times when I was running for president in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty, when we would have all the different Democratic

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Speaker 5: candidates showing up at the same venue for you know,

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Speaker 5: all of us giving speeches, and a number of times

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Speaker 5: when I was approaching the venue, we would walk by

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Speaker 5: the supporters for different candidates. We saw them a lot.

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Speaker 5: Oftentimes we were friendly and sharing snacks or whatever, saying Hi,

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Speaker 5: how's it going. When I walk past and my team

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Speaker 5: walk past the Kamala Harris supporters, they started hissing at

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Speaker 5: us and like waving their syrophoam noodles at us. And

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Speaker 5: it was a very bizarre thing that I think reflected

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Speaker 5: the culture around her to reflection of her as a person.

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Speaker 5: Whereas the experience that I've had over this past week

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Speaker 5: with President Trump and with his inner circle and the

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Speaker 5: people around him, people of all ages. Some people have

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Speaker 5: been with him for over thirty years. Many people have

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Speaker 5: been with him for a very long time, and I

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Speaker 5: got to tell you they are welcoming, They are kind,

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Speaker 5: and they are very purpose driven. They are not your

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Speaker 5: typical political operatives. They're there because they really believe in

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Speaker 5: the imperative that we face, which is saving our country.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's important to point to the person,

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Speaker 5: the personalities and the character of the people that we're

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Speaker 5: talking about here. Kamala Harris hasn't changed a whole lot

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Speaker 5: from twenty nine keen and how she operates and who

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Speaker 5: she is. So just like I exposed her on the

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Speaker 5: debate stage in twenty nineteen in that presidential primary for

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Speaker 5: her hypocrisy and her lies and how she will say

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Speaker 5: and do whatever she feels necessary to advance her own

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Speaker 5: personal and political ambition, the same is exactly true today.

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Speaker 5: And this is where President Trumpell really have the opportunity

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Speaker 5: on that debate stage to do the same. She will

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Speaker 5: deliver some very well rehearsed, well practiced lines, but as

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Speaker 5: he challenges her on her record as vice president, she

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Speaker 5: was not just sitting in the corner. She was the

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Speaker 5: most tie breaking vote as a vice president in the

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Speaker 5: US Senate, really pushing the Biden Harris policies across the

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Speaker 5: finish line, those radical policies that have really done such

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Speaker 5: tremendous damage to our country. She's proud of being the

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Speaker 5: last person in the room in the Afghanistan disastrous Afghanistan

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Speaker 5: withdrawal decision. Time after time, she said, she is proud

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Speaker 5: of the success of Bidenomics, and that you know people

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Speaker 5: who are saying, well, prices are too high, I can't

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Speaker 5: afford it. Well, they just obviously don't know how great

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Speaker 5: Bidenomics is, and we just got to tell them, never

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Speaker 5: mind the fact that they just can't afford groceries, a

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Speaker 5: basic thing that they need to sustain themselves. So this

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Speaker 5: will be an opportunity to once again show the American

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Speaker 5: people that Kamala Harris is fake. She is a typical

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Speaker 5: Washington swamp politician in the worst sense of the word.

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Speaker 5: And she doesn't care about the American people. She only

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Speaker 5: cares about herself.

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Speaker 2: You ran against her, as you were just telling us

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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen as a part of the Democrat primary process.

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Speaker 2: Kamal had dropped out in December of twenty nineteen, with

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Speaker 2: Democrats having overwhelmingly said we don't want this woman to

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Speaker 2: be our nominee. She now has been elevated as the

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Speaker 2: nominee for the Democrat Party despite not having a single

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Speaker 2: vote cast in her favor for President of the United States,

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Speaker 2: if Democrats had had a wide open primary Tulsi, and

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Speaker 2: if Joe Biden had done what he should have done

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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty three and said, hey, it's time

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Speaker 2: to pass the baton to a new generation of leaders.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's any way Kamala Harris would have

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Speaker 2: ended up being the Democrat nominee right now as we're

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Speaker 2: talking and about to be September of twenty twenty four, if.

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Speaker 5: It were a true and fair Democratic primary. No, but

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Speaker 5: I as we've seen in my experience directly in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty as we saw in this primary election, even if

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden were not there, the Democratic the Democrat Party

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Speaker 5: doesn't believe in democracy, so they would not have a

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Speaker 5: true Democratic primary. So if they have decided, if they

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Speaker 5: had decide which horse they want to put forward, which

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Speaker 5: figurehead do they want to put forward as the front

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Speaker 5: man that they can control, that is the person who

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Speaker 5: would most likely win a Democratic primary, because they don't

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Speaker 5: believe in allowing even Democrat primary voters to have their

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Speaker 5: voices be heard. It is the core of the problem

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Speaker 5: with the Democrat Party of today, one of the many

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Speaker 5: reasons why I left, and one of the many reasons

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Speaker 5: why by the way, today, I just came from an

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Speaker 5: event with the Moms for Liberty in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 5: Where a state representative, Sean Fiery from Texas announced at

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Speaker 5: that event that she, as an elected state legislator from Texas,

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Speaker 5: left the Democratic Party and has become a Republican. There

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Speaker 5: are more and more people who are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 5: The more the truth of the insanity of today's Democrat

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Speaker 5: Party is being exposed, and that's where President Trump really

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Speaker 5: has this incredible opportunity to bring people together around our

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Speaker 5: shared fundamental values of freedom. Why you left the Democrat Party, Clay,

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Speaker 5: Why I left the Democrat Party Around peace, Around ending

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Speaker 5: these unnecessary regime change wars of choice that undermine our security,

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Speaker 5: of walking us back from the brink of World War

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Speaker 5: three and nuclear war and actually putting us on that

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Speaker 5: path towards a bright and prosperous future.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tulsea Gabbert Taulsey. Tim Wall said last

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Speaker 2: night during his CNN interview that the reason he said

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Speaker 2: he served in combat was just a grammar mistake and

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Speaker 2: that he just misspeaks sometimes because basically he's a regular guy.

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Speaker 2: You've been in the military and serve for a long time.

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Speaker 2: What's your reaction to that explanation for why he said

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Speaker 2: he served in combat?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's important. I saw that clip

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Speaker 5: from last night, and I also saw Dana bash follow

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Speaker 5: up because he did not answer the question. He did

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Speaker 5: not answer the question. He basically said, people know who

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Speaker 5: I am, and as you said, I make some grammar mistakes.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I throw the BS flag immediately. He needs to

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Speaker 5: own up to the fact that he lied, or he

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Speaker 5: misspoke or whatever it is. But he needs to take

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Speaker 5: responsibility for the things that he has said that have

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Speaker 5: completely mischaracterized what he has do done in a lot

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Speaker 5: of different areas, but especially in the military. If he

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Speaker 5: wants to be vice president of the United States one

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Speaker 5: breath away from being president commander in chief, he needs

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Speaker 5: to be someone that the American people can believe what

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Speaker 5: he says to be true and someone who holds himself

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Speaker 5: accountable in some ways. Kamala Harris and Tim Walls are

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Speaker 5: a great match for each other because it's clear that

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Speaker 5: they have no qualms about lying to the American people

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Speaker 5: and voters and that ultimately this is about themselves and

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Speaker 5: about their power.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Tulsea Gabbert. Last question for you, Tulsi,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for the time. We know you're busy running

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Speaker 2: around campaigning now with President Trump. You are, and I'm

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Speaker 2: excited about this. Probably the most prominent woman surrogate now

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Speaker 2: that is out there advocating for Trump. I'm sure you've

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Speaker 2: seen the numbers. Men are overwhelmingly going to vote for

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Speaker 2: Trump Nationwide. Women right now are voting for Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: by potentially a double digit margin, particularly younger women. What

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Speaker 2: do you intend to do and what can Trump do

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Speaker 2: to help to convince women out there that he's the

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Speaker 2: better option.

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Speaker 5: You know, when you look at the actual policies and

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Speaker 5: the contrast between Kamala Harris's record and President Trump's record,

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Speaker 5: his policies benefit all Americans, especially on including women, young women, moms,

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Speaker 5: suburban women, all of these different demographics that the posters

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Speaker 5: throw out there. And so really, I think two things

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Speaker 5: is just being able to communicate the truth, which is

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Speaker 5: tough to break through sometimes given how much the mainstream

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Speaker 5: propaganda media are essentially acting as the communications department for

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris's campaign for president. I want someone to file

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Speaker 5: a lawsuit against them so that they have to report

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Speaker 5: all of this bias coverage to the Federal Elections Commission

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Speaker 5: as in kind campaign contributions. But we just have to

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Speaker 5: find a way to break through, and it's doing things

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Speaker 5: like we did last night in the town hall, where

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Speaker 5: we can talk about and bring voice to these very

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Speaker 5: real issues and challenges and help encourage that direct conversation

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Speaker 5: with President Trumpere where sometimes people don't get to see

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Speaker 5: him in that kind of informal, more intimate, one on

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Speaker 5: one conversation type of setting. I think that really it's

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Speaker 5: going to come down to just being able to share

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Speaker 5: with people the truth, breaking through the lines and sharing

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Speaker 5: with people the truth about the contrast between President Trump

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Speaker 5: and Kamala Harrison. I'm looking forward to being able to

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Speaker 5: do that over these next sixty five sixty six days

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Speaker 5: here in this election.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, Tulsa happy to have you on the team.

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Speaker 2: We look forward to having you on again and keep

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Speaker 2: up the fight.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Great to talk to you always.

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