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Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huddle on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile, the Giants Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: hold the Tino in Super Bowl champion tight end Howard

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Speaker 1: Cross here on the Giant Huddle with a rapid reaction

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Speaker 1: to the Giant season ending twenty two to seven loss

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Speaker 1: to the Washington football team that drops the Giants to

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Speaker 1: four and thirteen. Here at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: Howard similar story and that the defense tried to hold

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Speaker 1: up as long as they could then the dam broke

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. But simply put, the offense could

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Speaker 1: not get the wheels turning at all. And this is

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Speaker 1: something that obviously is gonna have to be addressed in

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Speaker 1: the off season. Well, you know, to be quite fair

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Speaker 1: to everyone that you know involved. The first off ja

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Speaker 1: from nice kid like him a lot been here for

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Speaker 1: three or four weeks away from learn the offense as

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Speaker 1: a kid who's coming from assistant where he was looking

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Speaker 1: at the sideline to get to play and then turn

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Speaker 1: around the calling it. That's what they do in college,

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Speaker 1: that's not what they do in NFL. So he had

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Speaker 1: a hard time and trying to get him to have

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Speaker 1: enough players to learn it was tough going back to

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Speaker 1: Glennan historically, you know, nothing against Glennon either, but Glennon

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Speaker 1: is a like five and twenty five or six and

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Speaker 1: thirty kind of quarterback, doesn't have a great winning percentage,

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Speaker 1: so he that wasn't his big move in life. So

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Speaker 1: that's a problem. Um. As far as the offense goes

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Speaker 1: as a whole sake, one came into the season late. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he missed four missed early four, you know, four games

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Speaker 1: early on, and then once he kind of got himself rolling,

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Speaker 1: he sprang his ankle against Dallas, missed another four weeks,

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Speaker 1: so he didn't really get going, so that that takes

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Speaker 1: away from him and he even kind of running on

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Speaker 1: the eye of leg all year offensive line, basically, I

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Speaker 1: think there's maybe been twenty different combinations or twenty different players.

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, the one and only player who started

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Speaker 1: every game was was um Well Nandez And the only

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Speaker 1: player who really was a dominant player the whole time

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Speaker 1: was Thomas. So that's it's impossible to play with with

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Speaker 1: that going through the entire year. As far as as

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Speaker 1: far as receivers and everything goes, Uh, holiday we have

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Speaker 1: all these different guys, a lot of them were hurt,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a hamstring or some soft tissue issue. Uh,

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Speaker 1: towards the end. I think even Chell towards achilles at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year. So you're never at your

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Speaker 1: full tilt with your receivers, You're never at your full

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Speaker 1: tilt with your line. You would never at your full

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Speaker 1: tilt with your quarterback. Daniel and I'm put praying for

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Speaker 1: everything has a neck injury. I don't make light of

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Speaker 1: anybody with a neck injury. You had a lot of injuries.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has them, but the team wasn't constructed in a

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Speaker 1: way to, you know, be prepared for if that many

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Speaker 1: people went out. I know a lot of teams find

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Speaker 1: a way, but we just weren't in a position for it.

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Speaker 1: As you look at this offense now going into the

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Speaker 1: off season, clearly they've got to add people along the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, without question, whether it's the draft of free agency,

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Speaker 1: whatever they've got to do, they need people there. Aside

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Speaker 1: from that, if they were to straighten that out with

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Speaker 1: whatever resources they have, do you think the other units

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Speaker 1: on the offense, if they come back healthy, are enough

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Speaker 1: to get where the Giants want to go. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the big thing is you're gonna be able to keep

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Speaker 1: every game because he's one of your top or leading rushers.

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Speaker 1: If you're running game, meaning you're running backs were doing okay,

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Speaker 1: then you can. It's gonna be if you're offer the line.

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Speaker 1: Someone asked me the question earlier, who would make the

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Speaker 1: because he will He will help your offers line that much. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Usually you're talking about a quarterback that does that, or

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Speaker 1: When you get a guy like that playing, that guy

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Speaker 1: He's that good, He's that transformative of a player as

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Speaker 1: He can't be a four game of season or a

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Speaker 1: And at worse, you can't have all these injuries. And

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Speaker 1: I know injuries aren't something that you can control, and

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Speaker 1: If you're injured in something, you kind of always injured

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Speaker 1: That's kind of Roles Howard. We talked about this one

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Speaker 1: time I'm Big Blue Kick Off Live. I believe with

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Speaker 1: the off season, a lot of players would be better

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Speaker 1: so that too many of them are taking generic strength

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Speaker 1: subscribe to that theory and could that make a big difference.

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Speaker 1: Now they went from static stretches to dynamic stretches and

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Speaker 1: was big on Booker. As far as Daniel goes, I

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Speaker 1: Howard uh They certainly could use another pass rusher, and

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Speaker 1: think they can use some more beef upfront. If it's

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Speaker 1: We're gonna draft a guy that's gonna be a true

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Speaker 1: run stopper up front. No offense to the guys we have.

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Speaker 1: I've seen too much push up the field for them,

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Speaker 1: And every year they'll have a guy. But unfortunately, through

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Speaker 1: to another team. They did William Joseph, They've done it

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Speaker 1: the season. How do you size up that outside linebacker

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Speaker 1: spot and is it imperative that they add more? Yes

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Speaker 1: and no. I think I think if you can sign

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Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carter, I think if he bets on himself and

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Speaker 1: the States, because his first year he's really healthy, Uh,

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Speaker 1: good year out of him. As far as um the

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Speaker 1: other guys go, you know, I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you gotta have a lot of pressure up

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Speaker 1: the middle, and that gives the guys on the edge,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best chance. These guys are definitely doing

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Speaker 1: great running around ages and curling in. If the back

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Speaker 1: goes the quarterback goes right or left, they get to

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Speaker 1: him But the big thing that they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: figure out is not so much the pass rush, but

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Speaker 1: how to hold up on the edge is on the run.

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Speaker 1: Game can't be giving up two hundre plus yards a game.

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Speaker 1: You can't be giving up the edge for guys, and

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that without the focus on them.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you practice it every day because

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Speaker 1: you don't get the practice of Jans quick, but you

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Speaker 1: gotta do it. As far as the pass rush goes,

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Speaker 1: and they keep lifting, keep getting stronger, they're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: getting bad the secondary. After Pepper's got hurt. We saw

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Speaker 1: McKinney move into that starting lineup with Logan Ryan. We

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Speaker 1: saw Doory Jackson who missed sometime with injury and COVID,

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Speaker 1: and we saw James Bradbury on the other side, who

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Speaker 1: had a down year compared to the year before. But

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Speaker 1: the starting four the secondary looks to be solid. They've

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Speaker 1: got some young guys with Williams, with Robinson, with Holmes.

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Speaker 1: Seems like there's some depth there. Okay, they gotta sure

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Speaker 1: of those ads that they can be given up big plays.

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Speaker 1: There's no bend. But don't great mentality does stop mentality

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Speaker 1: and Bradberry is going to go back and look at

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Speaker 1: some tape and decide, you know, hey, am I gonna

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Speaker 1: be that shutdown guy again and travel with the with

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Speaker 1: the top receiver? And I think you can do that.

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Speaker 1: I think he has another year or saw that in

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Speaker 1: his system. As far as the safeties goes, you have

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Speaker 1: some of the best safeties. You didn't mention Julian Love.

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Speaker 1: He played, had a had a great year to shop.

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Speaker 1: When called in the service, he was he was more

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Speaker 1: than serviceable. So you've got some good players all sprinkle across,

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Speaker 1: and you've got some great players and a couple of positions,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be interesting to see like who comes

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Speaker 1: back and what they come back and ask when they

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Speaker 1: get here. All right, I gotta ask you about the

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Speaker 1: cultural situation, Howard, because it's clear that the players played

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Speaker 1: and fourth till the end they shot. Were you unified?

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Speaker 1: I didn't see any finger pointing coming from anybody in

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Speaker 1: this locker room. And as Joe Judge says, that's an

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Speaker 1: important component you have to have if you're going to

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Speaker 1: build and take the next step. How important do you

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Speaker 1: think it was that this team did set unified? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's unified what it is. I just

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Speaker 1: know the guys realized that they were shorthanded, and by

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Speaker 1: being shorthanded, guys were like lifting a little heavier trying

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Speaker 1: to make it work. And that's more of what it

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Speaker 1: was than than so much quote unquote culture. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys are like, okay, we just lost

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Speaker 1: some other line. Okay, another were serious not playing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now you know someone so just gotta hurt his elbow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Blake Martinis and blew a snee guys, you know, for

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Speaker 1: whatever they were worth them their a buildings, they played

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Speaker 1: to the buildings they used like crowded. U said, everything

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Speaker 1: he had may not he's not a Blake Martinez, but

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Speaker 1: whatever he had, he gave every ounce he had, so

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Speaker 1: that that it's not a question of them being unified

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Speaker 1: about them. They gave everything they had to give the

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Speaker 1: entire time. I don't think guys do as much fingerpoints

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Speaker 1: as you see used to seeing the old days, because

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Speaker 1: guys are on the field the whole time and they

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Speaker 1: would know everything that was going on. Now you have

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Speaker 1: I've said this a million times. Now you have athletes,

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Speaker 1: more so the football players. So the athletes our only

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Speaker 1: call for a play here and play there, and maybe

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Speaker 1: a half a series here, half series there. Ain't a

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Speaker 1: fan point because I'm not a game long enough to

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Speaker 1: know what the other guy who's doing. Sometimes, well, that'll

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Speaker 1: do it for this edition of Rapid Reaction again. After

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Speaker 1: the Giants fall to Washington two to seven in the

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Speaker 1: season finale, Howard crossed as always, we thank you for

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Speaker 1: your time. It's been a great season. Have a healthy

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Speaker 1: and happy offseason. We'll see you next time.