WEBVTT - Training Camp-Cast 8/8: Matthew Judon Returns, Tyquan Thornton Stands Out, Offensive Struggles Continue

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Training Camp Cast. The Patriots Training

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots Training Camp. Well, I do still watch the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice is over, but the writers of Patriots dot com

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<v Speaker 1>have you covered? What did I miss yesterday? Now here

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<v Speaker 1>to review today's practice? The writers of Patriots dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we are here, fresh off the field from

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<v Speaker 1>practice number ten of Patriots Training Campus. Might do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Evan Lazar, Paul Pirello, Patriots dot Com here to get

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<v Speaker 1>you caught up on everything that happened out on the

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<v Speaker 1>field today. And guys, I want to just start quickly with,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some housekeeping. Some guys return today, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is certainly notable, headlined by Matthew Judon, who had

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<v Speaker 1>missed the last couple of practices, but also Gilani Tavai,

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<v Speaker 1>who was injured last time we saw. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>was two times ago. He was president in the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was out there practicing today. It was in

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<v Speaker 1>full pads and as well as the first appearance of

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<v Speaker 1>Chason Hines, a rookie guard. So Patriots having some luck here.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as the injuries go, how Isaiah Win was

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<v Speaker 1>limited a little bit, so it comes in it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>But overall, guys, it was, you know, another day of

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what we've been seeing. A lot of plays

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<v Speaker 1>by the defense and sporadic nature of the offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gotten to the point where if you've seen the

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of practices, you've seen the latest one because

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really change. There was and Evan, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about this more in depth than I will,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was a you know, a couple of periods

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<v Speaker 1>of it looked like the tempo was a little bit better,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of shotgun, a lot of spreads, and it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like there was more of an idea. Now, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think the results were necessarily all that much better.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of passes here and there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then very late I thought back to back plays in

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<v Speaker 1>a hurry up. He had Hunter Henry on a like

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<v Speaker 1>a drag to the outside and then you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>over the middle and a cross or to agalore. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>two pretty sizable games where you know, the offense looked

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<v Speaker 1>like it had a clue. But overall, still I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that the tempo was being dictated by the defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Son of our IV. Yeah, we saw the frustration for

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<v Speaker 1>David Andrews at least boil over. It felt like we

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<v Speaker 1>obviously are not privy to what exactly he was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>In an offense only huddle after practice bringing the guys

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<v Speaker 1>together was pretty animated. I'm not going to guess what

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<v Speaker 1>he had to say, but that was the view of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he came to the podium and clear frustration

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<v Speaker 1>from the Patriot Center. Who's been here long enough to

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<v Speaker 1>know what a championship caliber offense and all that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff looks like. Now what Paul was saying about

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<v Speaker 1>what they were running out there, I thought that there

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<v Speaker 1>was some positives from that angle where you spread the field,

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<v Speaker 1>you put Mac in the shotgun. He looked more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>at times and that sort of alignment than maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>has at times under center so far this summer. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would venture to say that we might end up

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<v Speaker 1>we could come back in October and November we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>a show and say that stuff that we saw from

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of that practice and the third week

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp was more what the offense has looked like,

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<v Speaker 1>and say we saw in the first two weeks of

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<v Speaker 1>training camp when they were doing some more of the

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan stuff. So I think that that's maybe something that

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<v Speaker 1>you can hang your hat on. And Bill Belichick gave

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<v Speaker 1>a nice answer before practice about we're constantly reevaluating ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>right even in the season, during the season, training camp, preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>and at different times we might decide we got to

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<v Speaker 1>go in a different direction here, and maybe we saw

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<v Speaker 1>some inklings of them going in some different directions out

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<v Speaker 1>of practice today and it wasn't all terrible. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to just say, you know, I thought Nelson Agolore had

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a couple of really good reps in

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<v Speaker 1>one on ones. I mean, he just seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>generally active. I mean, we're you know, Grassma Straw is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit trying to highlight the positive, but there

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<v Speaker 1>have been moments and I think Aglore has looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, meanwhile, on the defensive side of the ball, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it seems like guys are you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who's bad and who's good between the offensive defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, it looks like the defense is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>They've begetting their hands on the balls, they've been disruptive

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<v Speaker 1>of It was funny. Someone asked Matthew Jude on that

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<v Speaker 1>you know toward the you know, after practice is it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to judge which is how well you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are playing because the office into struggling and and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was pretty forthcoming too, as I look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not really concerned about that. We're trying to stop them.

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<v Speaker 1>Our job is to stop them. We need to set

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<v Speaker 1>the edge, we need to stuff the middle of them.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to be strong on the back end, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're trying to do. So we can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of worry about what they're doing on offense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, especially the second eleven on eleven period, really

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive on defense. I thought they threw some blitzes at

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<v Speaker 1>them they weren't ready for. I thought Marcus Jones came

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<v Speaker 1>out of the slot on one play. Another one, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Evan's right, it was like it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>zero coverage blitz right there, and Malcolm Butler almost cut

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<v Speaker 1>underneath Parker to make an interception. But right now, to

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<v Speaker 1>protect I think it all starts with the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to get some of these issues straightened out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the rhythm of the offense just doesn't look right consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball's not coming out when it should. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>that is on Mac. It's not just protection and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just guys not getting open. The ball needs to

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<v Speaker 1>come out more regularly like it did in that seven

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<v Speaker 1>on seven period where it looked like there was some

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<v Speaker 1>more t empo involved. And then later I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>you one more positive offensively. You mentioned Agalore. I think

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<v Speaker 1>every day it looks like Taekwon Thornton continues to make

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<v Speaker 1>some strides. And there was a period and again it

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly backup, second string, second and third team, a

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<v Speaker 1>hurry up drill late and I think it was Horrior

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<v Speaker 1>playing quarterback back to back, driving Jack Jones off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really cutting hard, maybe ten twelve fifteen yard outs, wide

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<v Speaker 1>open twice and then you know, predictably, when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you get beating a guy on outs, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? You're gonna get downfield and you got open

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<v Speaker 1>in the end zone. It looked like they got tripped

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<v Speaker 1>up a little bit. May have been a penalty on

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Jones, but Thornton consistently gets open every practice. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this was Tykwon Thornton's best practice of the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw him earlier in one on ones Malcolm Butler

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<v Speaker 1>and Terrence Mitchell trying to get their hands on him

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<v Speaker 1>at the line of scrimmage, had no chance. He beat

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<v Speaker 1>both of them down the field. The one against Mitchell

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<v Speaker 1>in particular was a nasty release at the line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage and he got right away. From press coverage there

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned the Jack Jones plays laid in practice. Don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to hype him up too much, but Taekwon I think

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<v Speaker 1>gets better and better, and for me today was probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best practice we've seen him have. I agree that's

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<v Speaker 1>a positive. Yeah, that's the thing I would hang my

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<v Speaker 1>hat on right now. If you're listening to this at

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<v Speaker 1>home and you're saying, oh, the offense is really struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>what I would hang my hat on is that Taekwon

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<v Speaker 1>Doran looks like he's coming along nicely. You got a

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<v Speaker 1>fast guy with some length. One more thing I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was interesting, Paul pointed out Marcus Jones. Marcus Jones

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of run on the top group

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<v Speaker 1>with a slot a little bit. We're seeing Jonathan Jones

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<v Speaker 1>on the outside a little bit more. Two guys very fast,

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<v Speaker 1>good at matching and coverage. We know, you know, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Jones has some experience with Tyreek Hill. Maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 1>potential option for Miami. But we will be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Another practice in the late afternoon is Bill Belichick has

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<v Speaker 1>thrown us a little bit of a curveball. Still a

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<v Speaker 1>little toasty out there, but all our content will be

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<v Speaker 1>coming out a little bit later, as you can expect.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course we're back tomorrow with another one of

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<v Speaker 1>these podcasts to wrap up. I guess they'll be the

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<v Speaker 1>last practice here before we head to the first game

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Yeah, the Giants Thursday night. Hard to believe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fast approach. Very curious to see how all of

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<v Speaker 1>this translates onto the game field, even if it is

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the backups. So for Evan and Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>this is Deuce. We'll see you next time. Thank you

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