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Speaker 2: here he is they're one of the only Bucket Brooks. Hello, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I hope your holiday was a super one.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm great, Andy, can't complain. Holiday was fantastic, right.

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Speaker 2: And I want to say to our staff, Lead the

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Speaker 2: lap and Mark as well, I hope you had a

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Speaker 2: wonderful holiday too.

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Speaker 3: I hope you did. Guys. That's great. Good to have

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Speaker 2: Okay, as we move along, you know, I want them

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Speaker 2: to get it there certain things and right now I

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Speaker 2: got to touch on some of the bowl games just

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Speaker 2: just for a second, because some of them really were

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Speaker 2: just disgusting to watch. But there are eight games yester

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Speaker 2: days we have to touch on him. And I look

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Speaker 2: at this Penn State game for a second, you know,

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Speaker 2: you look at the scores, you look at the teams

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Speaker 2: in the city said, wait a minute, let's go back

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Speaker 2: to like July in August, Clemson, Clemson losing the Penn State.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of a strange ending to a season.

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Speaker 2: Penn State for the first time in elons to not

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Speaker 2: have double digit wins. They beat Clemson twenty two to ten.

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Speaker 2: How surprised were you that Clempson just faulted in the

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Speaker 2: Bowl Game. Well, maybe these guys don't care at that

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Speaker 2: this point in time they play in that Pinstripe Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I'll say bowl games are hard to predict now given

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Speaker 4: the amount of opt outs and transfer portal emissions, It's

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Speaker 4: hard to know what team is going to show up.

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Speaker 5: I am surprised that.

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Speaker 4: Penn State finished with the bang, that they finished strong

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Speaker 4: under Terry Smith.

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Speaker 5: Their interim coach.

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Speaker 4: They have ANUE coach in Matt Campbell who was around,

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Speaker 4: but Terry Smith was able to lead him on a

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Speaker 4: four game winning streak. A lot of times these Bowl

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Speaker 4: games go to the team that is more motivated to

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Speaker 4: be there, the team that is excited to be there,

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Speaker 4: the team that wants to play and participate, and they're

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Speaker 4: the event. For Clempson, a very disappointing year. It was

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Speaker 4: disappointing from the beginning because this team had national title hopes.

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Speaker 4: They were expected to be a playoff team. They had

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Speaker 4: so for Dabbo he's gonna have to reevaluate the state

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Speaker 4: because I won't say they've fallen on hard times, but

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Speaker 4: this certainly isn't the Clemson brand that we used to

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Speaker 2: He better get back into the portal and get into

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Speaker 2: And also I think that the fans point of view,

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Speaker 3: A little better. I think it's rough. It's rough for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I would say fans are also to blame because,

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Speaker 4: sit through a four year progression that may look like this,

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Speaker 4: the outside expectations for every program you can't live up to.

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Speaker 4: Every team is not going to make the playoff. And

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Speaker 4: if your team doesn't make the playoff, are you a

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Speaker 4: going to bowl games and win an eight to nine wins?

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Speaker 3: Hear what you're saying, You're right about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean fans, you know, they're crazy, and I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of times fans with their vocal pressure, get

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Speaker 2: lose fans. That's what they do. I've seen it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not even just the fans, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: When colleges decided they need to solicit money from fans

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Speaker 4: louder my voice. So now apart athletic departments are having

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Speaker 4: the fans more than you ever have. It's the most

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Speaker 2: Probably the best Bowl game probably yesday was the Pop

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Speaker 2: that that may have been the best game right there.

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Speaker 2: And Brigham Young obviously twelve franc the country no surprise

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Speaker 2: that was ranked number twenty two.

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Speaker 3: But I think one of the bigger.

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Speaker 2: Surprises the Cougars of Houston their first ten win season

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Speaker 3: I went to what Brian Kelly.

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Speaker 2: Had to think about that game right watching on his

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Speaker 2: TV set, Houston beating LSU. Whoever thunk that could ever happen?

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Speaker 2: The Cougars of Houston beating a power like LSU, a

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I'm sure Brian Kelly doesn't give a rip.

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Speaker 4: I mean, right, he's somewhere on the beach cashing his

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Speaker 4: four million dollars. He could care less about what's going

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Speaker 4: on with the Tigers right now. I think for the Tigers, look,

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Speaker 4: it's another state of affairs for a program that is

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Speaker 5: That they're gonna be much better now.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure on Lane Kiff and to

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Speaker 5: We'll see if he's up to the task.

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Speaker 4: But look, it's a tough job only in the sense

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Speaker 4: of you have all the resources, you have access to

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Speaker 4: all the athletes, but it's a very difficult conference to navigate.

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Speaker 3: All right now.

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Speaker 2: Now moving over back to Christmas, the quote move the

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Speaker 2: plus five hundred records, okay, and the NFL had three games,

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Speaker 2: but they were on pay platforms.

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Speaker 3: So we see what happens right now.

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying to myself, Christmas normally was NBA day.

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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, now the NFL is moving in.

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Speaker 2: You can't do anything about it. People love the NFL,

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Speaker 2: but Charles Barkley was not happy with the NFL moving

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Speaker 2: quote other league. Let's hear, sir, Charles.

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Speaker 6: The NFL got greed and started a Christmas game. We

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Speaker 6: used to have this day to ourselves. But you know,

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Speaker 6: Roger Goodell and them pigs at the NFL always wanted

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Speaker 4: Now they can't play.

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Speaker 3: The NBAD.

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Speaker 6: I saw those guys yesterday on the ESPN talk about it,

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Speaker 6: and they're right, Christmas is an NBA day.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not so certain Christmas is an NBA day, but

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Speaker 2: the point is it was at one point in time.

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Speaker 2: But Charles Barkley calling these guys pigs. You know, it's business.

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do? I mean, do you want

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Speaker 2: to get the government involved at the game? The day

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Speaker 2: belongs to the NBA. I don't know, and I don't

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Speaker 2: know what the NBA could possibly do. You just can't

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Speaker 2: compete with the NFL. And there's so many reasons why

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Speaker 2: every game means so much. There's only seventeen freaking games

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Speaker 2: NBA play eighty two. I think the gambling I spent.

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Speaker 2: It's a perfect game for gamblers. So it's just the

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Speaker 2: way the way the world can't do anything about it. Charles,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but the call them pigs.

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Speaker 3: I want to know this.

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Speaker 2: If Charles is so upset, how come nobody else is upset?

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Speaker 2: How come the other owners are upset? I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: a squat from anybody, you know. How come the this

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Speaker 2: from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: you got to ask Bucky coming up at about twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes from now, So get your questions in if you

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Speaker 2: want to finish this up here a little bit about

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Speaker 2: the Ravens yesterday. First of all, I was kind of

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Speaker 2: shocked that they beat the Packers. But you got two

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Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks. It's not going to a Broadway show and

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Speaker 2: watching understudies right now, and I can't stand that. I

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Speaker 2: want to see the regulars play. I get it to hurt.

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Speaker 2: That's the big deal. But so what Ravens forty one

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Speaker 2: package twenty four. But here's the deal about this. You know,

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Speaker 2: Derek Henry comes out there yesterday thirty six, carries.

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Speaker 3: Amazing day.

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Speaker 2: Really four touchdowns, and last week when they lost, the

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Speaker 2: Ravens lost to New England twenty eight twenty four, he

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Speaker 2: didn't touch the ball the final twelve minutes. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how that happens. These coaches. They could

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Speaker 2: claim they sleep on that couch at night. They spend

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Speaker 2: the night in the office. It's not that smart. The

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Speaker 2: next game I coached in the NFL would be my first.

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Speaker 2: All I know is this, if I'm coaching, I'm shoving

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Speaker 2: that ball on that guy's belly.

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Speaker 3: You can't bring the guy down.

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Speaker 2: Tell me, tell me, my friend, tell me, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 2: how hard is it to bring a guy like Derrick

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Speaker 2: Henry down.

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Speaker 3: It's got to be difficult.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really difficult. And you know the thing that

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Speaker 4: you are I guess confused by with the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 4: is a couple of years ago, it was great Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 4: The Derrick Henry Lamar Jackson combination was unstoppable. And it

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Speaker 4: was unstoppable because you had a force of nature at

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Speaker 4: running back who was just too big, too fast, too

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Speaker 4: physical for any defensive player, particularly a second level the

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Speaker 4: player linebacker defensive back. Then you had Lamar Jackson, who

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Speaker 4: can run and outrun everybody. For whatever reason, the Ravens

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Speaker 4: decided they wanted to modernize their offense because everyone talked

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Speaker 4: about they just run, run, run, run. In my estimation,

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Speaker 4: when they went away from that heavy run game, and

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Speaker 4: even though talk about Greg Roman, people didn't like him

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Speaker 4: as offense, coordinated to hire Todd Munk and elevated him

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Speaker 4: to OC. It took away from what I felt like

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Speaker 4: the Ravens' superpower was, which is a physical run game

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Speaker 4: to compliment a dominant defense, and they won in a

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Speaker 4: fashion that was like bullyball.

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Speaker 5: They got away from it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like sometimes you want more, you want

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Speaker 4: to a sexier style, you want to do something that

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Speaker 4: everyone is telling you need to do to be at

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Speaker 4: your best. But I think what you saw last night

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Speaker 4: as they turned back to clock and went back to

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Speaker 4: the old school Ravens football, that is always the recipe.

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Speaker 5: In the FORMU for them to be successful. And they

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Speaker 5: just need to remember.

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Speaker 2: That quick question if I may in a situation like that.

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Speaker 2: Obviously they lose that game, they're not gonna get in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now there's some light. If the Stealers lose today,

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Speaker 2: it'll be a one game showdown there sweep between the

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Speaker 2: Ravens and the Steelers. But my question is it a

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Speaker 2: situation Maybe Derek Henry goes to the coaching staff and says, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, Lamar's not playing, give me the ball, because

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Speaker 2: that was that in the game plan. Does Derek Henry

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Speaker 2: have any say it all whatsoever prior to that game?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure he voiced his opinion, particularly coming

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Speaker 4: off a game in which he was dominating the game

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Speaker 4: last week and didn't touch the ball the final twelve

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Speaker 4: minutes of the game, and there was a lot of

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Speaker 4: conversation about it. There was a lot of confusion about

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Speaker 4: why one of your best players doesn't touch the ball,

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Speaker 4: particularly with Lamar Jackson out. A lot of people couldn't

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Speaker 4: figure it out. And so I think you have the

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Speaker 4: natural overcorrection to give him the ball. And then they

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Speaker 4: found how successful it is. That's why he touched it

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Speaker 4: thirty six times.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: I move along out to the other game, the Texans

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Speaker 2: beating up on the charge of twenty sixteen. I'm watching

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Speaker 2: that game and I can't but I mean, I almost

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Speaker 2: die with Cameron Dicker, you know, a meltdown to say

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Speaker 2: the least team four points. He missed a thirty two

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Speaker 2: yard field goal. He missed an extra point in that

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen loss. I'm gonna give you the recap of

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Speaker 2: what this guy did. He just made all pro I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's amazing. He missed two kicks in the game for

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Speaker 2: the first time in his career. He missed a field

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Speaker 2: goal from inside forty for the first time in his career.

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Speaker 3: He only had two.

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Speaker 2: Misses all season long on seventy one kicks, field goals

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Speaker 2: and extra points going into last week. This past week,

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Speaker 2: his streak of fifty seven straight successful extra points came

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Speaker 2: to an end.

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Speaker 3: I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the good news for the Charges, they've already

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Speaker 2: clinched a playoff spot.

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Speaker 3: But how does this happen to a kicker like Cameron Dicker?

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now, you don't think there's

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Speaker 2: some gamblers out there that are questioning what happened. Gotta

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Speaker 2: be there's gotta be a cloud over Cameron Dicker's head.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta believe that.

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Speaker 4: It happens. In terms of the misses and those things.

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Speaker 4: Dickator kicker has been great for them. He been automatic

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Speaker 4: for them most of his career. He just had a

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Speaker 4: bad day and a lot of blame should be assigned

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Speaker 4: to him because, yeah, you take the field goal in

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Speaker 4: the extra point. Those are the four points that were

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Speaker 4: the deciding factor in the game. But the Charges in general,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say this, man, they're the most frustrating team

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Speaker 4: to watch because they're good and they're talented, and they

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Speaker 4: do just enough to tease you into believing they did

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Speaker 4: the title contenders. But then when they play a heavyweight, man,

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Speaker 4: they falter. Man, they boo boo right down their leg

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Speaker 4: and that's what they did. They had a red zone turnover,

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Speaker 4: a pass to Ronde Gason Junior is tipped up. That's

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Speaker 4: the interception. You got, the miskicks that they had, just

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Speaker 4: the miscues that they had in a big game. Just

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Speaker 4: really disappointed if you're a Chargers fan to see them.

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Speaker 4: I won't say give the game away, but man, really

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Speaker 4: contribute mightily to the Texas winning the game.

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Speaker 2: Don't take anything away for the Texas. They not won

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Speaker 2: eight straight games and now they win. Good defense to

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Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, you know from the postseason, But you

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Speaker 2: talk about defense, I mean, it's I don'tbelieve what they did.

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Speaker 2: They started the season zero and three and they made

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and they could win the AFC South with

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Speaker 2: a winning Week eighteen, and you're loss with Jacksonville if

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville loses today in Indianapolis. But the Colts are out

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Speaker 2: of it right now, so you know, I'm sure they

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Speaker 2: won't be playing for much.

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Speaker 3: Maybe be a spoiler. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Colts rating two and they're not going to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. That's unbelievable. Really, Texas own three and

582
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Speaker 2: they're in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I will say this for disclosure about the Colts.

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Speaker 4: The Colts schedule was backloaded. They played all their heavy

585
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Speaker 4: hitters the last half of the season, and it's unfortunate

586
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Speaker 4: that when they were playing all those teams that's when

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Speaker 4: the injuries started to arise. With the quarterback situation, Daniel Jones,

588
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Speaker 4: Riley Leonard, you bring in Philip Rivers, all of that,

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Speaker 4: it just didn't look. It just didn't go right for

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Speaker 4: them in terms of that. But having seen the Texans

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Speaker 4: up close and personal twice, I'm gonna tell you, man,

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Speaker 4: they're a team that no one really wants to face

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Speaker 4: in the postseason. And I know people say that all

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Speaker 4: the time, but I am telling you their defense is

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Speaker 4: very difficult to score on.

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Speaker 5: Their number one and yards allowed number one.

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Speaker 4: Points allowed sixteen points, six points, which is ridiculously low

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Speaker 4: in terms of holding the opposition. If you watch the

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Speaker 4: Chargers game, you see why they're difficult. They can win

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Speaker 4: with a four man rush Danil Hunter, Will Anderson, Derek

601
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Speaker 4: Barnett can get there without needing blitzbrushers, so that means

602
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Speaker 4: they can play maximum coverage behind it, and they're sticky

603
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: in the back end Derek Stanley, Kamari Lassiter, Jalen Petrie.

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Speaker 4: They can lock up, they can play Manda Man that

605
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Speaker 4: can make it very difficult for you to find open windows. Man,

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Speaker 4: and they muck up the game. It's such an ugly

607
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Speaker 4: game when you play them, that every game is going

608
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Speaker 4: to be a fourth quarter affair, and it's hard to

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Speaker 4: beat them at their game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: I'm hoping the management of the Cincinnati Bengals was watching

612
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: that game because they loaded up on offense, but they

613
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Speaker 2: don't realize that. You know, defense really and truly does

614
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Speaker 2: win the game, because you know, if you don't score,

615
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Speaker 2: you can't win.

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Speaker 3: You know, you need points, you really do.

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Speaker 2: I think Justin Herbert was SAT five times yesterday and

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Speaker 2: they told about Miles Garrett being such a great defensive player,

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Speaker 2: and he is. He may it the sack record today.

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Speaker 2: This guy Will Anderson's right behind them. I mean, it's unbelievable,

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Speaker 2: he really is.

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Speaker 3: He's tremendous.

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Speaker 2: Derek Barnett he had two sacks yesterday. I think Danielle

624
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Speaker 2: Hunter had a sack yesterday. A couple of pressures. This

625
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: defense is for real and that's why they're winning ball games.

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Speaker 3: They really are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, they are definitely for real. They're physical, they're fast.

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Speaker 4: They take on the personality of their head coach Demic o'ryant.

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Speaker 4: They are a salty team. And you're here anyone down

630
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 4: around the Houston area, you hear the word swarm, and

631
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 4: swarm basically represents how they are, swarming to the ball

632
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Speaker 4: like a bunch of bees. He wants his defense to

633
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Speaker 4: fly around, he wants his defense to be unapologetic about

634
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Speaker 4: their level of physicality and toughness they play with. That's

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Speaker 4: what they do. And really impressive performance. And I would

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Speaker 4: say this c J. Strout turned the ball over twice,

637
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Speaker 4: had a great first quarter, but didn't.

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Speaker 3: Have the career score and he turned it all over.

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Speaker 4: Right, doesn't matter because the defense is so good that

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Speaker 4: they look they can put out the fire. Firefighters they

641
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 4: come in, they put out the fire, and that makes

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Speaker 4: it tough. Particularly if you have to play him in

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Speaker 4: age down, then it be a tough out.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Steels here. They've played at

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Speaker 2: the Browns today without wide receiver DK Metcalf. Okay, and

647
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Speaker 2: we know he had that alter case with a fan

648
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Speaker 2: in the first half of the Steelers twenty nine to

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Speaker 2: twenty four win over the Lines.

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Speaker 3: That was last Sunday. And here's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Now's let's look a little bit of the history of

652
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Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. Steel has traded for a second round pick

653
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Speaker 2: to Seattle for Metcalf and then they signed it to

654
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Speaker 2: a five year deal one hundred and fifty mil.

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Speaker 3: This was back in March.

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Speaker 2: They already had George Pickens, but they were concerned, I guess,

657
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Speaker 2: with the maturity of George Pickens instead of.

658
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Speaker 3: Going to DK.

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Speaker 2: All right, did they know that what they were getting

660
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Speaker 2: in Dk Metcalf. This guy has lost his cool in Seattle.

661
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Speaker 2: He's had fifteen fifteen yard penalties since entering the league

662
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Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen. He's had two injections since twenty twenty one,

663
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Speaker 2: and maybe that's why Seattle traded him. Don't they do

664
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Speaker 2: their homework before they get these guys? I don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what's better? I mean DK metcalf or George Pickers.

666
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Speaker 2: They're both a bit bit of a loose cannons over there.

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Speaker 4: Really, I would say both guys have had issues in

668
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Speaker 4: the past. I would say the difference is George Pickens,

669
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Speaker 4: you just didn't know which George Picken was going to

670
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Speaker 4: show up if he showed up. Reportedly, like people would

671
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Speaker 4: talk about, he's inconsistent as a worker in those things,

672
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Speaker 4: so it's hard to count on someone like that. With DK,

673
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Speaker 4: what you're talking about is his emotional control between the lines.

674
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Speaker 4: Sometimes guys that motor can run hot at a level

675
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Speaker 4: in games that it's hard to get them to make

676
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Speaker 4: good decisions without being emotional. Obviously, for DK, you talked

677
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Speaker 4: about the fifteen personal file penalties and just the lack

678
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Speaker 4: of emotional control that he has displayed at times.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they're being problematic.

680
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Speaker 4: But for the Stellers An organization, a franchise that is

681
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: always kind of told the line. When it comes to physicality,

682
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: toughness and the way they do it, they felt like

683
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 4: they could control it with the culture and the environment

684
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: and the people around them. Obviously, you don't want to

685
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Speaker 4: see what took place on Sunday where he has the

686
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Speaker 4: incident with the fan. Regardless of what the fans say.

687
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 4: Is like, you would like your player they have more

688
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: emotion in control than to engage in it. But look,

689
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 4: it's loud, it's different, it's noisy. People feel like they

690
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: pay their money. They can say whatever, but you need

691
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 4: DK to respond differently because he has a higher calling

692
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Speaker 4: in terms of helping his team get to the postseason,

693
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Speaker 4: and he shouldn't let his selfish acts impact the team

694
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 4: negatively impact the team.

695
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Speaker 3: No doubt about that.

696
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Speaker 4: Now.

697
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Speaker 2: I did mention coming into this segment of two teams

698
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Speaker 2: going in different directions as the Jaguars playing at the

699
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Colts to stay two teams trending differently. Okay, obviously Colts

700
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: are out of the playoffs. Yesterday, Colts out of the playoff,

701
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: the Charges lost and the Texans went on Saturday. You're

702
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jacks, I say, very dangerous, maybe the most dangerous

703
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: team in the AFC Colts were trying for a playoff spot.

704
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Speaker 2: Forget about that, Get this, and this is a pretty

705
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: big stat. Over the last four games, Jaquess quarterback Trevor

706
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: Lawrence fourteen touchdowns, twelve passing, two rushing, six consecutive wins

707
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Speaker 2: for this team, zero turnovers over the past four weeks.

708
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Speaker 3: For Trevor Lawrence, what has happened to this guy?

709
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Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly, there are many questions, at

710
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Speaker 2: least going into the season, and maybe halfway through the

711
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: season about Trevor Lawrence. All of a sudden, now he's

712
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: turned the corner. He's become an NFL quarterback. He could

713
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Speaker 2: be their franchise quarterback.

714
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, he's matured. He has really settled in and

715
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: played well in Liam Cohn's system. Liam corn has done

716
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: a really good job of freeing his mind and encourage

717
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: him to be aggressive but not reckless. And what you're

718
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: seeing from Trevor is the newfoud. Confidence has allowed him

719
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: to just let it rip. And when he lets a rip,

720
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: he's talented enough to make big things happen. And he's

721
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 4: done it avoiding the negative plays, and each and every week,

722
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: the more he puts on those performances, the more the

723
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: team leaves in them. That performance last week against Denver

724
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 4: was tough, because I'm gonna tell you, as much as

725
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 4: I waxed poetically about the Texans defense man, the Broncos

726
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 4: are right there with them when it comes to the

727
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: problems that they present with their front, their front and

728
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: their ability to cover. But he handled it, and the

729
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: more he handles it, the more confidence this had. This

730
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: team has not only that they can win the division

731
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 4: and go to the playoffs and make some noise, they

732
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 4: legitimately believe they can make a run and go all

733
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Speaker 4: the way to the super Bowl, just given how they

734
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: do it. They won't say it, but their actions their

735
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: demeanor reflects one that a this team believes that if

736
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Speaker 4: they get into the tournament, they can knock off anybody.

737
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Speaker 2: Right the Jacks right now are eleven and four. I

738
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: want to what's the feeling around the ball club? You

739
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: travel with the team, you know anything everything about them.

740
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: They have a newfound confidence about them and that they

741
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: feel they could go deep in the playoffs.

742
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: What are they feeling over there?

743
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Speaker 4: I mean, look, they feel like they're a really good team.

744
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 4: Now they've been real process are in it trying to

745
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: focus on week by week uh being the team in

746
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: the stadium that week. But they certainly feel like they

747
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 4: can play with anybody in their schedule. Reflects that you

748
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 4: look at the tough teams that are being on the schedule.

749
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 4: They knocked off San Francisco on the road. They lost

750
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Speaker 4: to Seattle and the Rams. The Rams is probably the

751
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 4: worst beatdown that they've had in London, but they went

752
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 4: toe to total with Seattle before faltering. Then you look

753
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: at the other games that they've had. The notable wins

754
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 4: at the time to be knsas City on a Monday,

755
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 4: that was a big win. They feel like they can go.

756
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 4: They beat Houston, they had a twenty nine ten Houston

757
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: lead on Houston.

758
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 5: The second time.

759
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: So they feel like they can handle anybody that you

760
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: throw out their way.

761
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter of them playing their game.

762
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Speaker 3: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks.

763
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: Get him at Brookie Brooks and Andy Fourman and Andy

764
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Ferman at FASAR were a live from the Fox Bus

765
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 2: radio studios and of course he does have all the answers.

766
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Speaker 2: That's why asked Bucky is next.

767
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Speaker 9: Don't listening the Fox Sports Radio radio.

768
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Speaker 2: Oh Yeah, little Stevie Weather coming up here on Fox

769
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Speaker 2: Football Sunday. He's Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman and we

770
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: are Fox Football Sunday and we're broadcasting a life on

771
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: the Fox Bust Radio studios.

772
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Speaker 3: It's Bucky coming right up. So what are we waiting for?

773
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: About twelve minutes before the top of the hour, it's

774
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: time for as Bucky. All right, Mark, you usually have

775
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: a question, Lee, you got any questions for Bucky Brooks?

776
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 10: Well, Bucky, I gotta know.

777
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Speaker 11: I mean, after watching the Saturday night game between the

778
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 11: Ravens and the Packers, obviously we know that Jordan Love's

779
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 11: gonna be coming out of the concussion protocol before the

780
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 11: last game of the regular season. Uh, Malik obviously went

781
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 11: into the locker room with a bump shoulder. I mean,

782
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 11: what are your feelings towards that quarter Who would you

783
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 11: start at quarterback? With nothing really quite on the line

784
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 11: for the Packers and the last week of the regular season.

785
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: Well, now, I think health is everything. I want to

786
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 4: make sure Jordan Love is healthy and ready to go

787
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 4: for the postseason. If he can start and play, I'll

788
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 4: play him a little bit. I won't play him the

789
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 4: entire game. If not, I'll check and see what Malik

790
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: Willis has. I don't ideally, I don't want Clayton Tune

791
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: to beat the quarterback for me because it's important for

792
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: us to kind of regain our confidence going through it.

793
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 4: But health is going to turn and everything.

794
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: Mark you got anything.

795
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 12: When it comes to all the different the number of

796
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 12: the top four sports, Bucky, which sport has their players?

797
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 12: Do they know their sports history? Like if football players

798
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 12: know their history, Baseball players know their history, basketball player?

799
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: Which sports players know.

800
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 12: Their history so they can that their minds are correct

801
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 12: about the game and they know their history about the game.

802
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 4: I'll say probably baseball because I think baseball history has

803
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: talked about more like they always are bringing up whatever

804
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 4: it is Ted Williams and Babe Ruce and like all

805
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: those old school people. So I think baseball is probably

806
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: one where it's layered in broadcasters to.

807
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 5: Keep everyone on.

808
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: The people that cover the sport are really big on

809
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: the history of the game. I think as a player,

810
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 4: you have to be on it because the questions that

811
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 4: you get center around the history of the game more

812
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 4: any of this.

813
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 12: It just seems like the basketball players, it just seems

814
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 12: like they can't be bothered with the history of the game,

815
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 12: and they don't really it is appeared like they don't

816
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 12: care that, but that they're not, you know, thinking about it.

817
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 10: It's just like, ah, whatever, Yeah.

818
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 4: Very much so, And there's something to that. It's also

819
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: a very young it's a younger sport than the others. Yeah,

820
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 4: but there's some immaturity and some disrespect when it comes

821
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 4: to the new generation relating to the old generation and

822
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: dismissing their accomplishments.

823
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: And I agree with you bucket about baseball with the

824
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: history fact that I tell you one of the reasons

825
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: being maybe so maybe on way off base here, but

826
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: baseball has traditionally been a radio sport, and I think

827
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: to some extent it still is. It's a great game

828
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,959
Speaker 2: to listen to on the radio, to do other things

829
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: while the game is going on. People don't have the

830
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: time to sit for two and a half hours in

831
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Speaker 2: front of a TV set watch a game, so there's

832
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: such a long period of time and a lot of

833
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: dead time in baseball. Announcers talk about the history a

834
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: lot during the game, at least the old guys to

835
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: the jack books of the world, and you know, Mel Allen, Yeah.

836
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, talking about Joe Morgan, their crew on Sunday Night

837
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: Baseball back in the day, right, Yeah.

838
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: All those guys, Yeah, there we go.

839
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Speaker 2: I got a question for you, nonsports. Does Bucky Brooks

840
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 2: in his home have a real Christmas tree or a

841
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: fake tree?

842
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 4: A fake tree all day, fake tree? Don't have time

843
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: to go pluck it, get all those needles and put

844
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 4: it out the box once a year. We're good.

845
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: That's what we do here. Okay, we got that and

846
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: the Manora right next to it. Okay, let's move on. Okay,

847
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: after that DK Metcalf altercation, there's been talk, get this

848
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 2: for a fan behavior policy in the NFL.

849
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: Is there a need for that a fan behavior policy?

850
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I think, not only in the NFL, just in general. Yeah,

851
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: I mean I think fans. I think fans are great

852
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: in some regards. In ninety eight percent of fans are terrific.

853
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: The two percent coming there intent on disrupting the game

854
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: and creating chaos. And when you throw alcohol in there

855
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: there people say things that shouldn't be uttered. Now, that's

856
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: one thing that you're for your team. It's another thing

857
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 4: to demean or whatever player. So yeah, you need to

858
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: have a code of conduct. It doesn't need to be

859
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: like church in the building, but you have to have

860
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: some boundaries in terms of what fans can and cannot

861
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: do it again.

862
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: That'll be pretty tough to monitor, really would be. We'll see.

863
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: Okay, the NFL has look like a Broadway show with

864
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: understudies the past several weeks with their quarterbacks. How concerned

865
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: now should the league be? Because you want to see

866
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: the best players play, but they're getting hurt. I don't

867
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 2: want to see Chris old Dacona, whatever the heck is

868
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: name of the Kansas city.

869
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of the code. I mean, I don't

870
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Speaker 3: even know who he is. I think he played for Sanford.

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00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: Do know this guy?

872
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well you can't. You can't protect the quarterbacks anymore.

873
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 4: H so rough in the past. The penalty yesterday on

874
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: someone laying the person to the turf, uh, you got

875
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 4: to live with it. Quarterbacks got to be tougher, They

876
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: got to be more denable, durable, They got to find

877
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 4: a way to lift weights to do whatever it is.

878
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 4: But it's a fields of cool contact sport. We cannot

879
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 4: make it flag football. That's a part of it. And

880
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 4: teams need to do a better job of preparing their

881
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 4: backups for prominent roles because ultimately the backup is going

882
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 4: to play at some point during the season.

883
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: I agree, we've got a controversial question, if we have

884
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: to roll this over, But Baylor University has added a

885
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: six to eleven former NBA draft pick from the Pistons,

886
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: James Naji, after playing in Europe.

887
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: Isn't this guy a pro? What does your take on this?

888
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be interesting because he's an older player,

889
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 4: they said, because he didn't sign an NBA contract, he's

890
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: abble to go. Now. It just opens up the floodgates

891
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: for a bunch of old dudes playing college. And college

892
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: basketball is no longer college, just the minor leagues. So

893
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 4: you're just gonna see some old guys kind of hanging

894
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 4: out in Triple A waiting to get their call up

895
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: to the NBA.

896
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 2: It's amazing, it's amazing. We'll get into that so much more.

897
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: But both teams in the playoffs right now, this game

898
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: certainly has meaning. We'll tell you all about it more

899
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Sunday next.

900
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 9: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

901
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: All right, this team never whoever loses at home, I'll

902
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: tell you who it is.

903
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: In just about a minute.

904
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Good morning, everybody, This is the show you can't wait

905
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: to hear it?

906
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: Really? Did you wait seven days for that? You really do?

907
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks,

908
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,239
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909
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913
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914
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915
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916
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: YouTube and subscribe. Here he is Bucky Brooks. How are

917
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 2: you buck in Indianapolis today with your jacks against the Colts?

918
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 3: Is that correct?

919
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: I am.

920
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: I'm in Indianapolis waiting for a big game today.

921
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: And you gotta stop with a Shapiro's Delhi in Indianapolis

922
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 2: is the best. I'm sure you had that big meal

923
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: last night. Did you go to that fancy, fancy place

924
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: in India last night for dinner?

925
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about Saint Ilmos. I did not get

926
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 4: to St Elmos. I went to the cousin. All right, okay, yah,

927
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 4: check good though goodies, A lot of steaks, a lot

928
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 4: of steak houses downtown, Yes.

929
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 3: All right.

930
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to kind of follow up on a couple

931
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: of items that we didn't touch on on as bucket

932
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: and one of them. This is a pretty big story,

933
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: and I think it's gonna get even bigger. We talking

934
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: about this kid, James Naji. I know what kind of

935
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: heavy football, but this is pretty important. He's a form

936
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: of Detroit Pittson's second round pick. He now has enrolled

937
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: at Baylor. He's six or eleven, and he played in Turkey.

938
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: He played also in the next twenty twenty five Summer League.

939
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: In my mind, he's a pro. In my mind, if

940
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: you get paid, you're a professional. Right, So now he's

941
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: going to college to play for Baylor. But the point

942
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: that the matter is this, maybe everybody in college is

943
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: a pro because with nil they're all getting paid.

944
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 3: So that got to change some of these rules.

945
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: And I don't know if for such a good thing

946
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: to have this kid who played in Turkey and now

947
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: he played overseas in Spain, played in Barcelona, now he's

948
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: playing for college. I don't think it's good the gates

949
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: that the floodgates.

950
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: Have been opened.

951
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 2: Right now in college, it's crazy and I don't like it,

952
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to caused a lot of

953
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: college coaches to pack it in. That's why Jay Wright

954
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: left filling over. That's why these college coaches are leaving.

955
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: They can't handle it anymore.

956
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: Agreed.

957
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's a challenging thing because you don't

958
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 4: have like guardrails. And the one thing that it does

959
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: when you allow a player like him who's played professionally

960
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: to come back and have four years of college, it

961
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 4: clogs up the pipeline for any high school players. There's

962
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: just not a place for high school players to go.

963
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: And as these teams are getting older and older at

964
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: the collegiate level, collegiate ranks, I mean, you have twenty

965
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 4: four to twenty five, twenty six year old kids playing

966
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 4: college basketball.

967
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: It's just a different game.

968
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 4: And everyone would tell you that old is better when

969
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: it comes to the NCAA dealing with the tournament, the maturity,

970
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: the physicality, all.

971
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 5: Of that.

972
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: Night and day between an eighteen nineteen year old fresh

973
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: out of high school and someone who's been around the

974
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: block a few times but since this is going to happen,

975
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: it's going to change the dynamic.

976
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: A lot of guys that under.

977
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: The draft that are undrafted or not happy with their

978
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: draft position are going to seek waivers to go back

979
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 4: to their respective colleges. Look, there's going to be some

980
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: legislation that needs to be drawn up to protect the

981
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 4: universities and the players amongst these situations from these situations.

982
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 4: But I don't know. Man, it's the wild wild West

983
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: right now in the college landscape.

984
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

985
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to go into coaching right now because

986
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, you used to be able to go to

987
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: a kid's house, talk to mom and pop, get in

988
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: the living room, talk about the courses you may want

989
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: to take in school with the major might be, how

990
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: many games you might be on TV, things like that.

991
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with It's all about money.

992
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: You know, come with the checkbook and then you know,

993
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: you give me more money, I'll go to your school.

994
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: That's what it's all about. And now if you're a pro,

995
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: you can still go back to school. It's crazy. There's

996
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: no academics involved. How did the presidents allow this? How

997
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: does the president of a university allow that?

998
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: To happen. I don't get it.

999
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Vanderbilt has become better in football,

1000
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: But I got news for you. If someone with the check,

1001
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: they've gotten better in football, but maybe the academic standards

1002
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: have been lowered.

1003
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 3: That's all I'm thinking. I'm just saying that.

1004
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: Probably so in a little way, like in terms of admission,

1005
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 4: what you're putting in.

1006
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: You don't hear people talk about academic stuff.

1007
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: Now.

1008
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: I'm sad for that.

1009
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: I love college sports and I love all the things

1010
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: that college sports does for young people. What it did

1011
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 4: for me in terms of allowing me to grow up,

1012
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: allow me to pursue athletic dreams and academic pursuits in

1013
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 4: those things. And I know the New School doesn't believe

1014
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 4: in some of those values and traits. But look, it's

1015
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 4: sad to me that it's become professionalized. It's become a

1016
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 4: pro sport basically at a lower level. I don't like that,

1017
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: and I want everyone to get paid coaches, players and

1018
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 4: all that. But I feel like there's a way to

1019
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: do it where we still keep the integrity of.

1020
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 5: The sport what it should be when it comes to.

1021
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 4: College athletics and providing opportunities to grow as a student

1022
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: and as an athlete.

1023
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: All Right, you played the game, you play for a

1024
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: lot of different coaches. You coach the game, you scout

1025
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: the game. This is right up your alley. And I

1026
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: got to talk to you about this because I'm my

1027
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: head's spinning when I saw this story. It's about Golden

1028
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: State for with Draymond Green. Draymond Green left the bench

1029
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: in the middle of a time out for Golden State

1030
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 2: during the third quarter of that win against the Orlando Magic.

1031
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: And what happened was their coach, Steve Kerr, let him

1032
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: come back with the team. He apologized to Green and

1033
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: he said, it happens one of my finest hours.

1034
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 3: It was not my finest hour. This is the coach.

1035
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: I don't get it now.

1036
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 2: Old school coaches would say, you know what, you leave

1037
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 2: the team, You turn your back on my team, give

1038
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: me your jersey.

1039
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to see it that anymore.

1040
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: You're out of here. You can't turn you but you're

1041
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 2: a teammate. You let your teammates down. I don't understand

1042
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: how coaches right now have become fearful of players, not

1043
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: just in basketball, in football as well. And we talked

1044
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: about this at nauseum. We talked about this in postgame

1045
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: news conferences. I mean, if I'm a coach, like yesterday's

1046
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: game with the charges, I say, my lost the game.

1047
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: You know he had a bad day. You know he

1048
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 2: deserves but he's an all pro kicker. I expected more

1049
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: from him. There's no harm in saying that, because everybody

1050
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: in the world has said that after you see that,

1051
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: But coaches will not do that anymore.

1052
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: I don't know why.

1053
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: You can't do that. So let's talk on two things

1054
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: that we're touching on. First, the Draymond thing. One, without

1055
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: really understanding the exchange between Draymont and Steve Kerr and

1056
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 4: Draymond and his teammates, we really don't know.

1057
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 5: How the best take care of it.

1058
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: I will say this, and I've done this in terms

1059
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 4: of players, sometimes players can get very emotional in the

1060
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 4: heat of the moment. Sometimes you have to let them

1061
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 4: walk away, deal with their emotions, and then re engage

1062
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 4: when they're ready. Now, old school coaches wouldn't do that

1063
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: because they want them to stand in the fire, to

1064
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 4: do that, to be with the team at all times.

1065
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: But sometimes you have to let the emotional, high strung

1066
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: players kind of walk away let them cool down and

1067
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: then re engage them when they're kind of back and

1068
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: clear headed in those things. So I do understand that tactic,

1069
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 4: and that might be a thing that they've worked that

1070
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: way Draymond, given some of the outbursts and how we

1071
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 4: know he can be emotional. That that's the way that

1072
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 4: they handle that now, Jymon, when he re engages either

1073
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 4: that day or after that, he has to apologize for like, hey, guys,

1074
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: I got to keep my cool or whatever. Sometimes they

1075
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 4: can't do it when it comes to coaching hard. You

1076
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: still can coach today's players hard, but you have to

1077
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: meet them where they're at. It's not yesteryear. They weren't

1078
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: parented by yesteryear's parents. You know, they weren't parented I

1079
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 4: won't say sternly, but it's a different time and so

1080
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 4: you got to meet them show them what I call

1081
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: old school values, but you got to show them that

1082
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: in a new school way so they can appreciate it.

1083
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: It is, you know, requiring everybody to meet the student

1084
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 4: where he is, not you necessarily think that he should be.

1085
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: Okay.

1086
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think coaches have changed that much. I

1087
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: think what it's made the coaches go in a different direction.

1088
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: And maybe I'm way off based on this.

1089
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: I think it's the media and the social media because

1090
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: back in the day, when the coach would attack a

1091
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: player and go crazy on him, there was no social media,

1092
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: and more often than not, the coaches and the teams

1093
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 2: kind of like owned the media that covered the team.

1094
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: You know, they were like bought and paid for. They

1095
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: really were. That's just the way it was. So the

1096
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: coach could go to the media guy from a newspaper

1097
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: and say, you know, I kind of said and they

1098
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: never had these group sessions if you remember maybe when

1099
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: you played, it was like that as well. Right now,

1100
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: after a game is over, there's like a ten or

1101
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 2: fifteen minute cooling off period and they go into a

1102
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 2: media possession, a media room, and they bring three or

1103
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: four players and the coach into the room and everybody's

1104
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 2: there to ask questions. Back in the day, they didn't

1105
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 2: have that that ten to fifteen minute cooling off period.

1106
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: They opened the locker room and it was like a stampede.

1107
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: Media went in there and they talked, and now particularly

1108
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: it so maybe you didn't really hear what the coach

1109
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: had to say publicly to the player.

1110
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is different.

1111
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 4: But I will also say this when it comes to

1112
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: everything that was done and yesteryear wasn't right either. It

1113
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: probably wasn't right for head coaches to shake the face

1114
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 4: mask of football players when they're trying to make a point.

1115
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: It wasn't right for people to take a Bobby Knight

1116
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 4: approach to yelling, screaming and demeaning players in front of everybody.

1117
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 4: That's probably, yeah, it's probably not the right form. We've

1118
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 4: evolved as people when it comes to communication and those things.

1119
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 4: Social media does have an impact on everybody. It impacts

1120
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 4: how we have these gotcha moments, but it also impacts

1121
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: how players think about themselves and others because you let

1122
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: so many people have access to.

1123
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: Your mind with their words.

1124
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 4: You know, Johnny living in the basement can say whatever

1125
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 4: he can say mean things and not have to face

1126
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: those consequences of having to say it to the player's face.

1127
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: There's a lot of this pressure that has kind of

1128
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 4: been dumped upon players when it comes to everyone's thoughts

1129
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: and opinions and critiques.

1130
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, let's move to the NFL.

1131
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: Right now, we got off that. I'm really clear, we

1132
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: got that. Taking care of because it was interesting. I

1133
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 2: got the Eagles at Buffalo today. Eagles are ten and five,

1134
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: Bills are eleven and four, and both teams obviously are

1135
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: going to the players. But for the Bills, they're at

1136
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: home and the game may mean a little bit more

1137
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: to them for the postseason because since the start, this

1138
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: is amazingly I didn't know this. Since the start of

1139
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, counting the postseason, the Bills are sixteen

1140
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,479
Speaker 2: and one at home, all right, and they got to stop,

1141
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: say Coln Barkley, that's it, because now Barkley is beginning

1142
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 2: to get the ball like Derrick Henry did. I guess

1143
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: when the weather gets a little colder, that's what they do.

1144
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: They'd start running the football a little more. That's what

1145
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: it's all about.

1146
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a big tess. And here's the thing

1147
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 4: with the Bills. I will say this, the Bills maybe

1148
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 4: might be one of the best teams in the league,

1149
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 4: but they're not the most talented unit. So they have

1150
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 4: to play the right way to win each and every week.

1151
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 4: And if Josh Allen can't jump into the phone booth

1152
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 4: and put on his superhero uniform, sometimes it can be

1153
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: difficult for them to find ways to win. But this

1154
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 4: is gonna be the test because their biggest weakness has

1155
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 4: been their inability to deal with physicality at the point

1156
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: of attack and run games. So Saquon Barkley is going

1157
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: to test them. They're gonna run the football, They're gonna

1158
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 4: see if they can stack up and stop it. And

1159
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 4: if the Bills have issues stopping the run. It is

1160
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: going to be some for shadowing of what's to come

1161
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: in the postseason because everyone is going to attack them

1162
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: in the same way. They're gonna run it at them

1163
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: because they want to wear them down physically because they're

1164
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 4: a smaller defense and they want to play keep away

1165
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 4: from Josh Allen. They have to show up today because

1166
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 4: they put bad tape on. Every playoff team is going

1167
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: to look at that and they're going to tax them

1168
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 4: the same way.

1169
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: And Barkley's gonna go crazy today. Hen't even get the

1170
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 2: blow by twenty five thirty times today. I mean, that's

1171
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: what they got to do, the gogoest thing.

1172
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: But why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you, Why wouldn't you

1173
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 4: give it to him as many times as you can

1174
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: let him impact the game. And they need to get

1175
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: playoff ready the Eagles are quietly rounding in the form.

1176
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 4: And we've talked we've forgotten about him, we don't talk

1177
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 4: about him. But they get a win here, they mess

1178
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 4: around and finished with well, what did you say? They

1179
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: finished twelve wins. They're right back to where they want

1180
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 4: to be and they could be a very difficult team

1181
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 4: to deal with in the postseason.

1182
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: And this is a big game.

1183
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: I mean, although we say they're both going to the playoffs,

1184
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 2: this is a pretty big game.

1185
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: They got the Bears of the forty nine ers. It

1186
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 3: was a big game.

1187
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: But the Bears have already clinched the NFC North because

1188
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: of yesterday's situation with the Texas game. But forty nine

1189
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: is quarterback Brock Perty. This is amazing to me. Last

1190
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,399
Speaker 2: week he threw for two ninety five and a career

1191
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: high five touchdowns in that forty eight twenty seven winner

1192
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: over the Colts. He had one hundred and fifty one

1193
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: piercing darge and three touchdowns in the first half. He

1194
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: finished twenty five for thirty five. He threw seven interceptions

1195
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: in his first four games, and that always kind of

1196
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 2: really stabilize himself. My question is this, how does Perty

1197
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: go last in the draft, and he's become such a

1198
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,959
Speaker 2: great NFL quarterback. Really, he really has. I mean people

1199
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: will scotching their head when they drafted this guy.

1200
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 4: I'll say a few different things. One, he played in

1201
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 4: college for a long time. If you look at what

1202
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: he was at Iowa State, he's arguably the most decorated

1203
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 4: player they've had, particularly a quarterback. Number of starts, broke,

1204
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: all their records, had a lot of success. Goes to

1205
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 4: the perfect system for him, even though he's mister Irrelevant,

1206
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: It is the perfect spot for him to flourish. Kyle

1207
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: Shanahan is a great quarterback developer. The system is one

1208
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 4: that makes the game easy for the quarterback, given the

1209
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 4: run game and the way they match the passing game

1210
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 4: with the run game. All those things, and he is

1211
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,720
Speaker 4: able to be who he's always been, which is a

1212
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 4: point guard, a distributor, get the ball to the open guy,

1213
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 4: get out the way, and that's what he does. So

1214
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: it is a great story, but it's also a testament

1215
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 4: of how everything has to align, The system has to

1216
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 4: match the player, and the coach has to be willing

1217
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: to take the player to another level by developing him.

1218
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the Eagles slowly but surely

1219
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 2: the coming of age and it can become a super

1220
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: Bowl team. You know, let's not thinking about the forty

1221
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 2: nine ers because they were like picked for death and

1222
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 2: now all of a sudden they were eleven and four.

1223
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: But the Bears, now, what kind of mindset is it?

1224
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 2: The fact that they know they won the NFC yesterday,

1225
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: they won the division, does that affect their play today?

1226
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 2: They are little more lack of days ago, maybe not

1227
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: playing the starters as much because they've clinched that.

1228
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 4: No, because man, there's still more things that are out there.

1229
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: You want to get the best possible seed that you

1230
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: can get. So this isn't when you let your foot

1231
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 4: off the gas, because remember when you go into the playoffs,

1232
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 4: only one team gets to buy week you're going to

1233
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 4: play the first weekend. You want to be playing your

1234
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 4: best ball. As much as we talk about like oh

1235
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 4: there's nothing to play for, there's always something to play for.

1236
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 4: The San Francisco forty nine ers can win the number

1237
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: one seed, so they could be highly motivated to go

1238
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 4: play the Bears. If the Bears don't match that intensity,

1239
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: they're not only gonna get run out the building, they're

1240
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 4: gonna get people hurt. So you have to come in

1241
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 4: there ready to play. You got to come in there

1242
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 4: with steelee focus, ready to rock, and if you're not,

1243
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 4: then it's gonna be a long day for you. I

1244
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 4: think both teams to be highly motivated to play well.

1245
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 2: All right, Okay, question for you. Which team has been

1246
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: a bigger fold job?

1247
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 3: All right?

1248
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm talking about the Tampa Bay Bucks at Indianapolis Colts

1249
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: because the Bucks were won six and two and they

1250
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: once had a two game lead in the NFC South.

1251
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: Now the Bucks are seven and eighth, and the good

1252
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: news is I guess they're going to Miami to play

1253
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 2: the Dolphins and they probably well, the Dolphins are coming

1254
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: of age.

1255
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 3: A little bit.

1256
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 2: They're six to nine. But what happened to this team?

1257
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, really and truly, it's amazing to me. They

1258
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: were rocking and rolling and now they're seven and eight.

1259
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the biggest surprise, one of the bigger disappointments.

1260
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: And you know you like old school coaching. Ty Bowles

1261
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 4: put it directly on the play. Guys got to ask you,

1262
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 4: Guys got to show up and do their job. They're

1263
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 4: not doing what they've been asked to do that is

1264
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: a problem.

1265
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 5: They need to make.

1266
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 4: Sure that they take care of business and get back

1267
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 4: on track. But yeah, it's disappointing because the defense hasn't

1268
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: played at the par Baker Mayfield. It's took a little

1269
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 4: step back. Some of that was due to the injuries

1270
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: on the perimeter. Didn't have Mike Evans and Chris Godwins

1271
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 4: for long stretches of the season, had to do with

1272
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: lesser guys.

1273
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 5: But they just haven't played well.

1274
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 4: And I am surprised because I thought this team was

1275
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 4: going to be a sneaky team that we talked about

1276
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 4: as one of the teams that could go to the show.

1277
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: All right now you talked about the Bears and the

1278
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 2: forty nine ers possible Super Bowl tas Eagles, Bills, Right,

1279
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 2: don't forget the Seattle Seahawks, and slowly, I mean they've

1280
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: really been quiet. He's about a team that I mean

1281
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: forty nine as people were talking about them a little bit,

1282
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: the Seahawks. Right now, I don't think anybody was talking

1283
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: about the toll the three Seahawks and they're going to

1284
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: Carolina today to play the eight and seven Panthers. So

1285
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: no one really and truly was told about the Seahawks.

1286
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: What do you think about the Seahawks.

1287
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 4: Great job Mike m McDonald, Great job John Snyder. They

1288
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 4: move on from Pete Carrolyn. Into two years, They've completely

1289
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 4: rebuilt the team, re established the culture the Hawks looking

1290
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 4: like the Hawks. This is a physical, feisty team. They're

1291
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 4: fast and athletic on defense. They can dominate you up

1292
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 4: front with the talent. They're really good in the backhand,

1293
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 4: and they fly on the second level offensively, man, they

1294
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 4: can mix it up in JSN, Jackson Smith and Jigbut

1295
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: to me, right now, he's the best wide receiver in football.

1296
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 4: Route running, pass catching, playmaking. He can do it all.

1297
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 3: From when they talk about Justin Jefferson and Jamal Chase,

1298
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 3: his name never comes up.

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Speaker 4: They doude bit flashy. But right now you look up

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00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 4: at the numbers like you talk about well over fifteen

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Speaker 4: hundred yards getting it done.

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald's playing great.

1303
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: But the only question that you have about the Seattle Seahawks,

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00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: how is Sam Donald going to play when the lights

1305
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: are the brightest? How is he going to perform? Last

1306
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 4: week was a good thing. When they knocked off the

1307
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: Rams and had to come back. He had to make

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Speaker 4: some plays. But he is the X factor. He is

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00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 4: the one that could hold him back from being a

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Speaker 4: title contender, given how he has melted down sometimes on

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Speaker 4: biggest stages. And I know people say, well, oh he's

1312
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 4: kicked it, hey man. A nothing like playoff pressure to

1313
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 4: bring back and conjure up those old ghosts, those old

1314
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 4: ghosts to see him do all pass they can show

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Speaker 4: back up in the postseasons.

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Speaker 2: The I mean, it boggles the mind that this guy

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00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 2: was like throwing to the junk heap in the New

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00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: York Jets and now he may be a super Bowl quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I mean, is it the organization? It can't be hit

1320
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he got become a better player.

1321
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: How does that happen?

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00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's the environment and everything. It happens

1323
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 4: because we're so quick to make judgments on quarterbacks. We

1324
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: want them to be star quarterbacks right away, and no

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00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 4: one has the patience to either wait for them to

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00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: go through their struggles or to develop them.

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Speaker 5: On the side.

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Speaker 4: Because when you draft him, he was like, you gotta play,

1329
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: you gotta plame, we gotta flame, we gotta see what

1330
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 4: we got. It takes time, but no one has that

1331
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 4: kind of patience anymore. That's why they struggle. He needed

1332
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: a new environment, he needed time to mature, to become

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01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 4: the player that he's become.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. All right, he's Bucket Brooks.

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Speaker 2: Get him on X at Bucket Brooks or at Andy

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Speaker 2: Furman FSR eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's

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Speaker 2: our phone number. That translates to eight seven seven nine

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Speaker 3: I've got the playing game in this hour.

1340
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: But it is the most important position in sports, it

1341
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Speaker 2: really is. You know what, We have the best twenty

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Speaker 2: five for you next.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, this is.

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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday. Hey, it's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Freman.

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01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: and the iHeart App. Okay, we got ass bucket coming up,

1361
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: and only got the blame game. I'm sorry, the blame

1362
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: game in about twelve minutes right now. But here's the deal.

1363
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 2: And I normally you would not care at all about

1364
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: this game. But you know, if you're a football sufficionado,

1365
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: you'd say, wait a minute, what's happening here. There's a

1366
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 2: little bit of life I'm talking about. The Saints are

1367
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: playing the Titans today in Tennessee. Saints are five and ten,

1368
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: the Titans are three and twelve right now. But the

1369
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Titans have won two of their last three. All right,

1370
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 2: maybe there's some hope over there. And why do they

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: why do they come to life all of a sudden.

1372
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't coach, I never have coach. I watched the

1373
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: game and most of it I'm wrong, But I'm gonna

1374
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: take a guess, right and you could slop me around

1375
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks because I may be wrong. Their running game

1376
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: has gotten better and that could only help a quarterback.

1377
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: Tony Pollard right now is average almost four point six

1378
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: yards of carry. All right, He's pushing close to one

1379
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: thousand yards this year.

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Speaker 3: Will you have a running game? It could only help

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Speaker 3: the quarterback.

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01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: And over the last two weeks Tennessee and I checked

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: on this has had six ten play drives that eats

1384
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: up the clock and helps the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Am I onto something here?

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: I mean you might be onto something when it comes

1387
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 4: to that, like the running game is the quarterback's best friend.

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01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 4: It does allow you to keep maintain better control of

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 4: the game and keep them out of negative situations like

1390
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 4: long yardage obvious passing situations. So yeah, there are to it.

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Speaker 4: They've made a considered effort. And I'll be honest, kim

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01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 4: Ward has gotten better chemistry and connectivity with the younger

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01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 4: guys that he's playing with. They got a bunch of

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01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 4: young receivers and it takes a while for those guys

1395
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Speaker 4: to job and connect, and so they finally connected.

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Speaker 2: Now, okay, I'll tell you this. Cam Wood right now

1397
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: very under publicized as a number one pick. Maybe he

1398
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: wanted it that way.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You didn't hear much about him. This team, as I mentioned,

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 2: is three and twelve, but you look at his stats.

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Speaker 2: He's passed for almost three thousand yards by like twenty

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01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: nine hundred yards right now, and it's touchdown to interception

1404
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 2: for a one, you know, one year rookie. Now, I

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01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 2: think it's not bad for a three and twelve team.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen and seven, I mean is that. I think that's

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Speaker 2: passable really and passing the average is about sixty percent.

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Speaker 3: I think he's done well. I think he'll do well

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Speaker 3: in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done well, and the next coach to have

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to continue to refine that development. But he's

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Speaker 4: shown promise, and if you're the Titans front office, you're

1413
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Speaker 4: excited about some of the flashes that he's displayed, and

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Speaker 4: you just want him to continue to stay on that track,

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Speaker 4: to continue to be on the right track when it

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Speaker 4: comes to it.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: Another one of the bigger disappointments this year, the Arizona

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Speaker 2: Cardinals at three and twelve to Cincinnati. Toy played the

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Speaker 2: Bengals five and ten, and the bad news for the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously, both teams not going to the playoffs,

1422
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Speaker 2: but the Bengals really showed everybody how good their offense

1423
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Speaker 2: was last week against the bad Miami team. And there's

1424
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Speaker 2: a good chance right now the Bengals could win out

1425
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 2: because they got Cleveland next week. So they finished seven

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Speaker 2: and ten and that gets everybody hope for next year,

1427
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 2: and they'll say, well, Borough was hurt, so they're not

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Speaker 2: going to do any major changes.

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Speaker 3: They gotta fix that defense. But that's what happens every year.

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Speaker 2: They get that slow start, they come on like gang

1431
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Speaker 2: buses at the end, they got a little bit of

1432
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Speaker 2: a winning streak, and they don't do anything in the offseason.

1433
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 2: So to me, you gotta be boof up, beef up

1434
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Speaker 2: the defense.

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Speaker 3: You gotta do that.

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Speaker 2: But if they win today and they'll beat Cleveland next

1437
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Speaker 2: week seven and ten, everybody's gonna be happy to say, hey,

1438
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Speaker 2: you know Borrough was hurt and all of a sudden

1439
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Speaker 2: it came one strong at the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll talk about that, but I don't think you

1441
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 4: can take being so serious until they invest in the defense,

1442
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: not a new coordinator. All golden is fine. They get

1443
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 4: rid of lou Ana rumo the players. The lack of

1444
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: talent on that side holds them back. They haven't been

1445
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 4: able to kind of crack the code when it comes

1446
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 4: to building a defense through the draft. And then you

1447
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 4: need Joe Burrow to be available. He has to be

1448
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 4: available all seventeen games to give them the best chance

1449
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Speaker 4: of being able to win.

1450
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 5: And if he's unavailable, it just.

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 4: Makes it very, very tough for them to win because

1452
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 4: he is so much to them. He takes much offense

1453
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 4: to do.

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Speaker 3: Today's signed Joe fleckows his backup for next year.

1455
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Speaker 4: I mean, they can. I mean, if Joe still wants

1456
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 4: to play, why not, you know, why not let him play?

1457
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 2: We talked about Lamar Jackson earlier today and the leadership qualities,

1458
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 2: I mean, and Joe came out and kind of left

1459
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: a lot of gray matter out there about a week

1460
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Speaker 2: ago at his news conference, and the question was that

1461
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people run with it. Does he want

1462
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: to remain a bangle? Does he want to stay here?

1463
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: Is he happy here? You know that kind of filters

1464
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: over a locker room, especially when the team is losing.

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Speaker 2: I think that and I always listen to Joe very

1466
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: carefully the way he chooses his words. But sometimes you

1467
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 2: say things and you're kind of sorry you say him,

1468
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 2: and you put your foot in your mouth. I think

1469
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: as a quarterback, as the kind of face of the team,

1470
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: you kind of watch it a little bit. I think

1471
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Speaker 2: he left a lot of doubt out there. It wasn't

1472
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 2: a good look. I don't think it was a good look.

1473
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 4: No, not a good look. I mean, well, I wouldn't

1474
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: say it's a bad look. He just doesn't know. And

1475
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 4: if you're a backup quarterback like Joe flaccoes at age man,

1476
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 4: he probably wants to play a little bit. Can't figure

1477
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 4: it out. He likes hanging around, but he knows this

1478
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrows team. Is that situation? Is that a good

1479
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 4: situation for you? Do you want more? He has to

1480
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 4: only he knows the answer to that. He has to

1481
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 4: figure that for it out.

1482
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you hit it on the head.

1483
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: I mean, quarterbacks just want to, you know, win that

1484
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: They want to play the best they can and they

1485
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: want to go to a super Bowl. Obviously he's got

1486
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 2: great stats, but at the end of the day, no

1487
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: one cares because it's all about winning a super Bowl.

1488
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 2: And there's a good chance he may never see that again,

1489
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: He's been there once and again that Joe Burrow is

1490
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 2: going to be like the Dan Marino of the year.

1491
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty five.

1492
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 2: That's he's gonna be like Dan Marino was great stats,

1493
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 2: but really nothing to show for it.

1494
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why you got to win it when you

1495
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: get a chance to get there. They got there, they

1496
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 4: had it. The game was there for than to win it.

1497
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 4: They win that Super Bowl. Maybe everything changes in the

1498
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 4: Cincinnati in terms of their team building approach, but they didn't.

1499
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 4: And now day on the verge of having to reset, reset,

1500
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 4: the franchise, reset everything kind of start a new.

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01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 2: But I will tell you this much, I think part

1502
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 2: of the problem was Joe because I think he went

1503
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: public kind of forcing the hand of management to sign

1504
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: T Higgins and Chase and I really believe he did that.

1505
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, you're a quarterback. You want

1506
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: to get great receivers to be on your team with you.

1507
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 2: But at the expense of what at the expense of

1508
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: the defense. And I think that the public really and

1509
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 2: truly rallied behind Joe Burrow and they were really wanted

1510
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 2: to see T Higgins. I think they could have success

1511
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: with a better defense, even if they gave up t Higgins.

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, it's great to have those

1513
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 3: two guys, but at what cost.

1514
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like they're not spending money on anybody, so

1515
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 4: they had an opportunity. There've been a bunch of guys

1516
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: to go through. Their Jesse base went through there. You

1517
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. At one point, Logan Wilson and

1518
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 4: Sam Hubbard. They had personnel, so it's not necessarily they

1519
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 4: wouldn't spend money and you can pay two wide receivers

1520
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: and get it done. The Philadelphia Eagles have done it

1521
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 4: with Jalen Hurts and DeVante Smith and AJ Brown. They

1522
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 4: have a high priced guy in Saquon Barkley in the backfield.

1523
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 4: It doesn't stop him. It's about how you draft and

1524
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: how you developed. The reason they able to do that

1525
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: is because on defense, most of their draftees are on

1526
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 4: that side of the ball. When you look at how

1527
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 4: they're able to do it. So for the Bengals, they

1528
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 4: have to draft and develop better. And they got a

1529
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 4: coach around whatever deficiency shows up with playing so many

1530
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: young guys, and the coach got to work it out.

1531
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 4: He has to figure it out. I just don't know

1532
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 4: when it comes to Zach Taylor, if Zach Taylor can

1533
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 4: be the leader of men that you need in some

1534
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 4: of these situations to change the personality of the team.

1535
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 4: I just don't know if his personality resonates like.

1536
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: That, and anybody else in the situation not making the

1537
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 2: playoffs in three years will be out on the street

1538
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 2: looking for a job. I'm sure he'll be back next

1539
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: year because he's got another contract. He's good to the

1540
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. That's what I'm hear in this contra.

1541
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: And then they don't want to pay a guy not

1542
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 2: to work.

1543
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 4: That's the deal, absolutely not. No free launches, right.

1544
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: It amaze really everyone just I don't know. But I

1545
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 2: want to ask you, if you've been around the game,

1546
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 2: you know what's going on. You've been around personnel people, scouts.

1547
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: What does it take how you talk about getting draft picks.

1548
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 3: And picking the wrong guy?

1549
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: What kind of talent must one have when they look

1550
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 2: at the draft and they've got to colleges and watch

1551
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: these kids play, and the Bengals have missed on so

1552
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: many of them.

1553
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: Why is it? Is it bad luck or these guys

1554
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 3: just don't know how to scout a player?

1555
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 2: How does that work? You want to hire a scout, Well,

1556
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 2: how do you hire a scout? Not necessarily, you don't

1557
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 2: have to be a great player to be a good.

1558
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: Scout, right, No, But it has to be outlined exactly

1559
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 4: what you're looking for first from a team perspective, what

1560
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 4: kind of character, personality, work, ethic, leadership type person that

1561
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 4: you want to bring in the locker room. And then

1562
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: the next part of it is the skill. Where is

1563
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 4: he at with his skill? Is he coachable? Does he

1564
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,919
Speaker 4: have the core traits like the size, strength, power, quickness,

1565
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 4: all those things to do it? And then it's looking

1566
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 4: at what he's doing in college and trying to project

1567
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: how he would do in your system in the pros.

1568
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 4: And you're looking for those things because the league makes it.

1569
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: Where how someone fits in the scheme is the biggest

1570
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 4: part of the evaluation. If we have someone who is

1571
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 4: like Lester Hayes, a bump and run corner, but we

1572
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: having him play and his own system that plays off

1573
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 4: where he's not going to be greater at because he's

1574
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 4: been a bumping run corner and he's never been asked

1575
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 4: to play seven eight yards off and uses backpuddal. So

1576
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 4: you have to make sure that everything lines up. That's

1577
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 4: why you want to ask your coaches specifically, what do

1578
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 4: we need to be successful in this scheme? And you

1579
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 4: build it that way. Interesting.

1580
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 3: I'm glad to hear that.

1581
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, a little bit of fun right now because

1582
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: I looked at the USA Today the other day and

1583
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,839
Speaker 2: they are the top twenty five quarterbacks of this century.

1584
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: All right, I want to give you the top five.

1585
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: I want to see if you agree. I'm gonna start

1586
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: with five and go down, all right. Number five, Drew Brees,

1587
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: Number four, Aaron Rodgers, This is from the last twenty

1588
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 2: five years. Number three, Peyton Manning, number two, Patrick Mahomes,

1589
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: and number one Tom Brady.

1590
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 4: You have thoughts on Matt, all right, give me the

1591
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 4: list again, Drew Brees. Who's the listrees?

1592
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: Okayfe Aaron Rodgers, four, Peyton Manning three, Patrick Mahomes two,

1593
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady won.

1594
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not a big on list, but.

1595
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just I'm okay, yeah, I'm okay with

1596
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 4: that list. I think Tom Brady deserves to be at

1597
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 4: the time because of all the Super Bowl.

1598
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm throwing some names out there. Josh Allen, He's.

1599
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 4: Like, not even nah uh nah, because like he doesn't

1600
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 4: have any notable wins. They haven't been to Super Bowl,

1601
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 4: he won an m v P. He has like rushing stuff.

1602
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 4: He's a really good player, but I can't say that

1603
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 4: he's one of the Yeah, no, we can leave him off.

1604
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 2: Okay, Jared Goff, Now you can't put him in that category.

1605
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford close, close.

1606
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 4: Matthew Staffor. You can make, you can make, you can

1607
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: make a case for him being on the fringes. All right,

1608
01:12:54,439 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 4: all right, what about yeah, I mean nah, I mean

1609
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: he's fine, but no, Okay, Brett Favre, he's still included

1610
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 4: in that, like he's I mean by the time he

1611
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 4: was in doing that like last week. So the two thousands, Nah,

1612
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 4: the two thousands version of Brett fab No, we can't

1613
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 4: put him in there.

1614
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 3: Okay, Joe Burrow, we can't, not know. I'm just throwing

1615
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 3: some names out there the last twenty five years.

1616
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 4: A Cam Newton, Nah, because if I can't put Josh

1617
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 4: and I can't put can the MVP.

1618
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 3: Okay, he wasn't MVP. Donovan mcnad No, not top five.

1619
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 4: No, they can't make it like Lamar, Nah, he has

1620
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 4: two MVPs. But all those guys are lumped in the

1621
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 4: same bucket, right, So one through five, it's cool now

1622
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 4: when we're talking six through ten. You got some the

1623
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 4: base because you can put Roethlisberger in the top ten

1624
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 4: giving his two super Bowls. You can put Matthew Stafford

1625
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 4: in statistical success. I just can't put that like I mean,

1626
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 4: I guess if you want to put Eli, but Eli

1627
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 4: doesn't have any numbers to back up.

1628
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 9: Here, be with you.

1629
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: I mean, look, his lifetime red was five hundred. I'm

1630
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 3: with you on that.

1631
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: He's got, he's got the name, he's got the Super Bowls.

1632
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 2: That's what's going to get him in the Hall of Fame. Really,

1633
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: that's it.

1634
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he has two super rights, so I can't.

1635
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 4: He has two super Bowls. I can't. And he played

1636
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 4: great in those two super Bowls. I cannot knock him right,

1637
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 4: terrible otherwise, but great in the Super Bowl. Right.

1638
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: And it's going to be a week quarterback class coming

1639
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 2: out of college this year. I believe it, really, but

1640
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: you never know.

1641
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 3: You never know.

1642
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: But we'll see.

1643
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 3: I'm seeing big this week. I don't see any big names.

1644
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,360
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1645
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:47,679
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1653
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: are live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1654
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, you gotta let it go right now.

1655
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: It's that time. Why the blame game is freaking next?

1656
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 9: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1657
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: Oh the blame game coming right up. It's about twelve

1658
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 3: minutes before the top of the hour.

1659
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 2: By the way, at the top of the hour, which

1660
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: would be eight am on the East Coast Grant Coast,

1661
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: Sell joins Mike Harmon right here on Fox Sports Radio,

1662
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 2: and we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. She's

1663
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: Buckie Brooks and Andy Furman, and of course it's that time.

1664
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: Let's do it the play game with me.

1665
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 9: It's all your fault, dupe, it's your fault. Why is

1666
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 9: all your fault?

1667
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's everyone's fault.

1668
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 9: The liar that's why there's the blame game.

1669
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: The blame game.

1670
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 9: Let's figure out who to blame. The blame game.

1671
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: All right, we're not gonna blame you. Lead to love

1672
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: you job these last two weeks. We're gonna miss you

1673
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: after today. And this is your Swans. You're handling the

1674
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: playing game.

1675
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

1676
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 11: I am ready, and I appreciate the sentiment, Andy, and

1677
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 11: I'm looking forward to it as well.

1678
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 7: Well.

1679
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 10: The Indianapolis Colts the reeling as we've been talking about,

1680
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 10: who do.

1681
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 3: You blame for that?

1682
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: Gosh, I guess I have to blame Daniel Jones and injuries.

1683
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 4: If Daniel Jones doesn't get hurt, the coach still a Roland.

1684
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 4: He was playing really good football for them early in

1685
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: the year. Then the injuries kind of ended his campaign,

1686
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 4: and so they haven't had a quarterback. You don't have

1687
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 4: a quarterback, you don't have a chance.

1688
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: That's the easy answer. The real answer is this, lou

1689
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 2: Anna Romo. You blame him. I'll tell you why. He's

1690
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 2: the official scapegoat of the NFL. He was fired by

1691
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. They blamed him for the laser last

1692
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 2: year as defensive coordinator. He goes to the Colts. They're

1693
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 2: losing now, so it's quite easy to point the fingers. Hey,

1694
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 2: Louis Anna Romo did it. He came from the Bengals.

1695
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 2: He was the curse of the Bengals and he came

1696
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: to Indianapolis, and that's why we're losing.

1697
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 11: Guys, it's unreal that both the Lions and Chiefs are

1698
01:16:59,040 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 11: out of the playoffs.

1699
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 10: But someone must be blamed for each Who is that?

1700
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 3: Okay?

1701
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 2: This is easy, Okay, Because the Lions are out because

1702
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 2: they lost Ben Johnson, that's easy.

1703
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 3: He goes to the Bears.

1704
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 2: It's a big loss because he got the head coach,

1705
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell. He's not a calling plays, I mean, so

1706
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: you know it was a big loss. That's number one.

1707
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: The Chiefs, they're out of the playoffs. Why I'm gonna

1708
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 2: go go here, I'm gonna go on the stretch, you

1709
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: might think, but it's true. It's a Taylor Swift situation.

1710
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey's so busy with her, and the whole team

1711
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 2: is saying, well, if Travis could get involved with his

1712
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: off the field activities, so could I. And I don't

1713
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 2: think they were entirely concentrating on football. Maybe even Andy

1714
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: Reid was. I don't know. I don't know what was

1715
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: happening over there. I know they're getting a lot older.

1716
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: Maybe they're tired. I get that as well. But I

1717
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: think the Taylor Swift situation was a big factor in

1718
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs.

1719
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 13: So the Taylor Swift factor is why the Chiefs have

1720
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:58,839
Speaker 13: fallen apart because they're not focused and distracted. Okay, Taylor Swift,

1721
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 13: Taylor Swift from Travis and Travis was not able.

1722
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: To focus on Hollywood news story.

1723
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 4: Hollywood news story, so they're not able to focus on ball. Okay,

1724
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 4: So Taylor Swift is the blame for the Chiefs. Dan

1725
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,879
Speaker 4: Campbell's to blame for the Lions. Look, they had turnover

1726
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: throughout the coordinator situation. Assistant coaches a lot of players

1727
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 4: and just didn't get the right fits, particularly on offense.

1728
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 4: John Morton did not was not able to sustain what

1729
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson was able to successfully do. He took it

1730
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 4: over and it's too much for Dan Campbell. They got

1731
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 4: to fix all that. So Dan Campbell's to blame and

1732
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,719
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift. Dan Campbell, Taylor Swift. Wow, do you agree

1733
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 4: with me?

1734
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 6: Dan?

1735
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 3: It's good? Do you agree with me?

1736
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: Wow? Taylor Taylor Taylor Swift. Wow, all right, all.

1737
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 10: Right, next, Fellas.

1738
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 11: The last time the Jets made the playoffs was after

1739
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 11: the twenty ten season. Rex Ryan was the coach and

1740
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 11: Mark Sanchez the quarterback. They're out again this year. But

1741
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,719
Speaker 11: who's to blame?

1742
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 4: The overall organization has been dysfunctional. Too many new coaches,

1743
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 4: too many new general managers, not operating on the same page.

1744
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: The only way that you can be successful as a team,

1745
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: everyone has to be a complete alignment from top to bottom.

1746
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 4: They haven't been aligned at why they haven't been successful.

1747
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 2: It's easy to blame because it always starts at the top,

1748
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 2: and the man at the top with the Jets is

1749
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson. And Woody, if you're really interested in a

1750
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 2: winning football team, stop fooling around with the band aids.

1751
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: All right, the band aids are doing good. You're pretty

1752
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: successful with the band aids.

1753
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: All right, mister Johnson, start playing and start working for

1754
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 2: your football team. It's embarrassing, it really, it's embarrassing that

1755
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 2: New York has two stinking football teams.

1756
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: It's really embarrassing, Fellas.

1757
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 11: Brock Perty had five touchdowns for two hundred and ninety

1758
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 11: five yards last week against the Colts.

1759
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 10: Who's to blame for him being the last player picked

1760
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 10: in the draft?

1761
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 4: Ooh there, the scals didn't appreciate his talent. I'll be honest.

1762
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 4: I broadcast the East Chris Ramble when he was a

1763
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 4: starring participant in it, and I did not see this

1764
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 4: for him. I think the scouse overlooked him. But really,

1765
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 4: Brock Purtty got a lot better over time.

1766
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,879
Speaker 2: You know what, in this situation, I'm not blaming anybody

1767
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: because who thought the last mister irrelevant would do so well?

1768
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: Really and truly, I mean, this is one of those things.

1769
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: That guy was going with a horseshoe up his rear end.

1770
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: He just got lucky.

1771
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 6: He did.

1772
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 3: He got lucky. That's what it is.

1773
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 2: It'll never happen again. The last guy drafted, he's gonna

1774
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: do this again. Never happened, Bucker, never will right?

1775
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 4: Wow? Negative Nancy Ny over there?

1776
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh come on, you really think it's gonna have the

1777
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: guy we'll see who gets drafted last this year, mister irrelevant.

1778
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 3: If he does anything next year, he probably won't even

1779
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 3: make the ball club. There we go, all we'll see

1780
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 3: you next week. We'll see you next year. Have a

1781
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 3: happy healthy new Year. We'll see you next year. Stay tuned.

1782
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 3: Cosell and Harmon next on Fox