1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hi, Get everybody. I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading The 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The I've Got My Spine, I've Got 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: My Orange Crush addition, as the Bengals get set to 4 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: open in Orange as they face Jacksonville in the first 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: home game of the year. Coming up, I'll go one 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: on one with Trey Hendrickson and also chat with his 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: friend and former teammates Sam Hubbard this week's Ruler of 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: the Jungle. Then, in our No The Faux segment, we'll 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: get the low down on the one to Oh Jaguars 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: from their radio voice, Frank Frangi. 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It's the greatest thing 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: since the anniversary of a broadcasting masterpiece. Tuesday marked the 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: sixtieth anniversary of what I consider to be the greatest 22 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: work by a sports broadcaster of all time. It was 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: Vin Scully's radio broadcast of a Sandy Kofax perfect game. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 2: Three times in his sensational career, as Sandy Kofax walked 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: out to the mound to pitch a fateful ninth where 26 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: he turned in a no hitter. But tonight September ninth, 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: nineteen hundred and sixty five, he made the toughest walk 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: of his career. I'm sure, because through eight innings he 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 2: has pitched a perfect game. 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Note that Vin used the words perfect game. There's no 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: such thing as a broadcaster's jinx. Call of the ninth 32 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: inning was filled with vivid descriptions that perfectly captured the drama. 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: And you can almost taste the freshure. Now twenty nine 34 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: thousand people in the ballpark and a million butterflies. 35 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: And now here's Vin's call of the final. 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Out, two and two, the Harvey Keane one strike away, 37 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: Sandy into his wind up. Here's the pitch. 38 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: Swung on in this the perfect game. 39 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: Scully did not speak for thirty eight seconds, he let 40 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the roar of the crowd serve as his color commentator, 41 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: and when he finally did return to the mic, he 42 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: put the cherry on top of the Sunday. 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: On the scoreboard and right field. It is nine forty 44 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: six pm in the City of the Angels, Los Angeles, California, 45 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: and a crowd of twenty nine thirty nine just sitting 46 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: in to see the only pitcher in baseball history to 47 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: herald four no hit, no run games. He has done 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: it four straight years, and now he capped it on 49 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: his fourth no hitter. He made it up perfect games, 50 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: and Sandy Kopax, whose name will always remind you of strikeouts, 51 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: did it with a flourish. He struck out the last 52 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: six consecutive batteries. So when he wrote his name in 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: capital letters in the record books, that K stands out 54 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: even more than the oufax. 55 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: That K stands out even more than the oufax. What 56 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: an incredible summary. I've always maintained that if we were 57 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: there that night to write a story about the game, 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: and had several hours to choose every word carefully, our 59 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: stories would not compare to what the Dodgers broadcaster ad 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: libbed well brought casting it live like Sandy Kofax that night. 61 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Vin Scully was perfect. If you would like to hear 62 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: the entire ninth inning, just search for Vin Scully, Sandy Kofax. 63 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: You'll see a link on MLB dot com and YouTube. 64 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Now let's get to my first guest. First and ten 65 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: Browns at their own twenty five thrash goes in motion. 66 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Placo fakes a handoff and he gets sacked night knocked 67 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: down by Trey Hendrickson, who led the NFL with seventeen 68 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: and a half of them a year ago, and he's 69 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: got his first one in twenty twenty five. 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 4: Seventeen and a half two years in a row, thirty 71 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: five two year total. He is a premier pass rushery. 72 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: After a lengthy contract negotiation, the Bengals, an all pro 73 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: edge rusher, Trey Hendrickson, agreed to erase this season thirteen 74 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: days before the season opener. That led to speculation that 75 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: Trey would be on a quote unquote pitch count in 76 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: Week one. That did not turn out to be the case. 77 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: Trey played the most snaps of any Bengals defensive lineman 78 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: and played them well. He's PFF's ninth highest graded Edge 79 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: player after one week and for what it's worth, Shamar 80 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: Stewart is seventh. I talked to Trey about his performance, 81 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Schamar's performance and why he doesn't wear gloves. Trey, after 82 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: having just a few training camp practices, you played fifty 83 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: seven snaps in the opener, You had eight quarterback pressures. 84 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: You had a huge impact on the game. Al Golden said, 85 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: that's an amazing human being to be able to do that. 86 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: Were you essentially telling the coaches to leave you out there? 87 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 5: It was something that the you know, game dictated. Every 88 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 5: drive is important. I think every drive is important in 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: every game, but specifically we were in must win situations 90 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 5: if we want to go where we want to go. 91 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 6: This season, big start being in division. 92 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 5: And on the road. So, you know, it was something 93 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 5: that I love this team. I've said that this whole offseason. 94 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: I had great work at the d one point of 95 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: Vidro with Chase he was my trainer there, and then 96 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 5: coming here I got to work out with Pat at 97 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 5: Black Cheap and then obviously finishing the job with Joey 98 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 5: in House. So I had a great offseason something I 99 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: was very proud of. I know my wife was very 100 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 5: proud of the way I worked as well. So considering 101 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 5: all those things and working out and then getting a 102 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 5: win and me having to play fifty seven snaps, I 103 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: do it again. 104 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: The defense held Cleveland to sixteen points, you got two takeaways. 105 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: What did the defense do best in the win? 106 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: I think we're just creating an identity of what kind 107 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 5: of brand of football we're going to play. And we're 108 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 5: far from where we want to be. There's a lot 109 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: on film that we have to get corrected. But anytime 110 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 5: you're learning with a win, that's a good thing. In 111 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 5: the National Football League, we're. 112 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: Visiting the Trey Hendrickson throughout training camp, you could be 113 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: seen constantly giving pointers to Shamar Stewart. What'd you think 114 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: of his debut? 115 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 5: You know, I think he's got an exceptional amount of talent. 116 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 5: I think that's what the guys in this building obviously 117 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: have seen in the recruiting process of bringing him to 118 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 5: be a part of the Cincinnati Bengals. 119 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 6: So the potential is there. 120 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 5: Jerry's doing a good job of tapping that potential and 121 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: everything that it comes with, and as he continues to 122 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 5: learn of what our brand of football is, I know 123 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: his production will improve. 124 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Jerry coaches hard. 125 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 6: Do you like it? Yeah? 126 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: I think Jerry's a great coach. His reputation around the 127 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 5: league speaks volumes. Great person, great coach, fun to work with. 128 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 5: He is an intelligent mind when it comes to run schemes, 129 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: how to break them down, how to make it identifiable, 130 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: to slow the game down. So for me as a player, 131 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: I've been with three different defensive line coaches, and you know, 132 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: all of them in their own rights, have been elite. 133 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: Charlie Goldsmith wrote a great story about how you, during 134 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: the period where you were watching practice but not taking part, 135 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: reached out to Jerry and said, let's meet every morning 136 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: at five thirty am so you could learn basically what 137 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: he was working on with the defensive line. Five thirty 138 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: am meetings with the coach. 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 6: Well, you know it was. 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 5: It was an interesting time for me and I wanted 141 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 5: to do more. So the more I would be able 142 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 5: to learn the defense. Obviously I could teach from in 143 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: that situation I was in, so I could actually give 144 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 5: to the guys and be speaking the same language and 145 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 5: being all on the same page, not just you know, 146 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 5: out there just to be out there, you know, like 147 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: having a purpose. While I was out there, all of us, 148 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 5: like I said, collectively speaking the same language. So it 149 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: was important to me to learn this defense. You know, 150 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 5: didn't know what the future held, but I wanted to 151 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 5: lean in to the qualities that my wife and I carry, 152 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 5: which is when we're all in, we're all. 153 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 6: In, you know. 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: And that's something that I have made clear since the 155 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 5: beginning of this off season is that I love the 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 5: Cincinnati Bengals and I want to. 157 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 6: Be all in for them, no matter what that looks like. 158 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: Do you always get up that early or did you 159 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: do it specifically in order to meet with Jerry before 160 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: he had other stuff to do. 161 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 5: Well, meetings were happening, you know, pretty early here during 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: camp because there was a quick turnaround for practice for 163 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 5: training camp, so there was a limited amount of time 164 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: because obviously when my son was awake in the afternoon 165 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 5: when we all went home, I wanted to spend a 166 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 5: little bit of time with him, not meet after so alarm. 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 6: Clock getting a little early. You know, it is what 168 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 6: it is. 169 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: We're in the National Football League, you know, I needed 170 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 5: to catch up for months of time away, and I 171 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: think we did a great job, the professional professionalism of 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: Jerry to do that for me. During the circumstances, and also, 173 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 5: you know there was a mutual respect there where we 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 5: all wanted. 175 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 6: To get better and I could help in any way 176 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 6: I could try. 177 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: You're a four time Pro bowler, you were a first 178 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: team All Pro member, last year, runner up for NF 179 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, NFL sacks leader. It's a 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: heck of a list. What's next? What are you determined 181 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: to do going forward? 182 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: I want to be the best Trey Hendrickson I can be, 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 5: and all those accolades aside. 184 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 6: I want to glorify the Lord with my play. 185 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: God has been so gracious to me with the game 186 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 5: of football and my walk personally from high school, college 187 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 5: in the NFL and now being in my ninth year 188 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 5: in the NFL. These are the things I talked about 189 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 5: with my dad when I was six years old, like 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 5: every six year old talks about, and having a son. 191 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 5: Now myself puts it in perspective. You know, this is 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: also a long offseason to spend time with family and reflect. 193 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 6: I know I have a lot of work to continue 194 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 6: to do. 195 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: I know I have a lot of gas in the 196 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: tank and tread on the tires, so I'm excited for 197 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 5: the future. But I've never played for the accolades. I 198 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 5: never played for the statistics. I want to help my 199 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: team win. I want to play as hard as I 200 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: can and let the trips fall where they may. And 201 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: I know it's been five years of saying that, it 202 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 5: is the truth, and I have high spectations for myself 203 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: because of the way I work and the way I 204 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 5: conduct myself. 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 6: And you know, but that's something that every. 206 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 5: Week, giving it your all with the win in mind 207 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 5: and helping the team the statistics or the byproduct. 208 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: The ruler of the jungle this week is Sam Hubbard, 209 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: your teammate, your former running mate, is the two defensive ends. 210 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: What did you respect about Sam when you two guys 211 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: played together. 212 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 5: There's so many things I could say what I respect 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: about him, but I think, you know, he embodied what 214 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: being a Bengal was on and off the field, and 215 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: I think he was a leader through and through, you know, 216 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 5: first in line, always an example of what it looked 217 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 5: like to be a football player, give a one hundred 218 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 5: percent effort all the time, and his character was second 219 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: to none. You know, he was a guy that you 220 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 5: could always rely on, always trust, knew what to do 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: and did it to a high level, and I have 222 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: a tremendous amount of respect for him and the friendship 223 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 5: I'm going to have with him for years to come 224 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: because of the things he taught me as a player 225 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 5: and obviously hopefully the things I taught him. 226 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: He told me you reached out and asked him to 227 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: look at the tape, give you some pointers after week one? 228 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 3: Will he? 229 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 5: You know, I think that football will always be a 230 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 5: part of his life. It'll always be a part of 231 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 5: my life. There's always a day where we won't be 232 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 5: able to play, and whether that's ye're one for some 233 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 5: guys or you're fifteen for other guys, there's a day 234 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 5: where we take off the pads and you know, sometimes 235 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 5: in life it comes sooner than later. And you know, 236 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 5: for him to handle it with the amount of like 237 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 5: I respect the way he handled it and everything that 238 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: he has and a tremendous life looking forward to ahead 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 5: of him. 240 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a it's. 241 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 5: A cool thing, you know that for him to you know, 242 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 5: we talk ball, and we will always talk ball, and 243 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: I always want his opinion because he gave it to 244 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: me on Monday mornings after the game, we would talk 245 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 5: about football. 246 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 6: So he's a He's a part of. 247 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: The Cincinnati Bengals culture that we're going to continue on here. 248 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: Another teammate and friend is Josepho's. He had an awesome 249 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: response when I asked about you during your contract impass. 250 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Here's what he said. The defense needs him. You feel 251 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: his presence when he's out there. Ask any offensive lineman 252 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: in the league. When trade lines up in front of 253 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: you with his tinted face, mask, no gloves, long sleeves 254 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: and tights, you know you've got war the whole game. 255 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: What's your reaction to that quote. 256 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 5: I love Joseph, He's been He was my first rookie 257 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: as a VET, you know, not to say that being 258 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 5: year four in New Orleans was an a vet, but 259 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 5: I came here for a purpose, and obviously he was 260 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 5: the first defensive end that I was able to inherit 261 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 5: a meaning was drafted to us in our room also 262 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 5: Cam sample, but to take him under my wing in 263 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 5: some ways like Cam Jordan took me under his wing 264 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 5: and kind of help him along the way. Now he 265 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 5: has to become who he wants to be, and for 266 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 5: him to talk about me like that is special, And 267 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: you know, I hope someday you know there's someone that 268 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 5: will look up to him the way you know I 269 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: look up to Cam and hopefully he looks up to me. 270 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: So you know, that's just continuing the legacy and of 271 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: what football is. It's it's not keep all your secrets 272 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: and hold them tight to your chest. It's it's a 273 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 5: giving sport. We have a common goal to win. We're 274 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 5: all wearing the same uniform for this season and continuing forward. 275 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 6: It's a special thing. 276 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 5: So that's a tremendous respect for him and he's a 277 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: he's a friend for life too. 278 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: A follow up to that quote, why no gloves. 279 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 6: It's just a toughness thing. 280 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 5: You know after a while, Like in New Orleans they 281 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: got sweaty, and Fau they got sweaty, and you know, 282 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: after a while it was like, man, why you know, 283 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: so being a part of you know, there's some guys 284 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: that don't wear gloves and you always know that those 285 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: guys are they got a little something to him. 286 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: Final question, and the only contract related question now that 287 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: you're playing again, is the bitterness gone? How are you 288 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: feeling mentally? 289 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: You know, it's one one game in a time mentality, 290 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: doing what's best for the twenty twenty five Bengals, and 291 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: for that, I will give everything I've got. And you 292 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 5: know it's something that I don't even think about what's uncontrollable. 293 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: I can only control what's controllable. 294 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: And that's how we handle ourselves in our home and 295 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: in our family and how I was raised. So what's 296 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 5: in my control is going out there on Sundays and 297 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: giving it my all. 298 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate you so much, thanks for the time, best of 299 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: luck this week. 300 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 6: All right, thank you. 301 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Trey has one of four players credited with eight pressures 302 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: in Week one to share the NFL lead. Miles Garrett 303 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: had two sacks against the Bengals, but the old line 304 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: held him to five pressures. For the second straight year, 305 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals will open in orange, but in addition to 306 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: wearing that color, Zach Taylor has another request for any 307 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: of you going to the game. 308 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 7: I know how loud we're going to be, and so 309 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 7: let's do it early. Let's show him right out the gate. 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 7: I think when Sam Hubbard is up there is the 311 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 7: ruler of the jungle. Every seat is packed, and I'd 312 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 7: love to look up just for I'm just asking for 313 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 7: one game, a ten minute sacrifice from the parking lot, 314 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 7: and so that that might just mean getting up ten minutes, 315 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 7: ten minutes earlier and getting to the stadium ten minutes 316 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 7: earlier than you normally would. And so do whatever you 317 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 7: want of those extra ten and then that extra ten 318 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 7: getting in the stadium. And so when when Sam's the ruler, 319 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 7: I'm kind of looking up at that escalator that's to 320 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 7: my right, and it's it's like, you know, and maybe 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: people just appease me and stand at the bottom. So 322 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 7: I can't see as he's up there, but I would 323 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 7: love to hear that just week one. The rest of them, 324 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 7: you can you can tell, get a little extra longer. 325 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 7: But I think for this first one to be awesome, 326 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 7: just to send the message to the team, we got 327 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 7: to do our best to start to to zero. And 328 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 7: for all the great things that we want to do 329 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 7: this year, it starts with playing great at home. And 330 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 7: that's a collective effort from our players, our coaches, our 331 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 7: fan base. And so I'm excited to set off twenty 332 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 7: twenty five the right way at home and Orange were 333 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 7: oranged out, you know, and the gat and I goes 334 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 7: to be fired up. 335 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: So finish that last beverige and Burger at your tailgate 336 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: lot and be in your seat ready to belt out 337 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: the Hooday chant when it's led by my next guest, 338 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: The ruler of the Jungle this week proudly wore the 339 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: orange and black for his hometown team for seven years. 340 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: I am speaking of the Cincinnati kid, Sam Hubbard. Sam, 341 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: great to see you. Here's my first question. What did 342 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: you do on your first NFL Sunday in retirement? 343 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 8: Dan, Good to see you. Uh yeah, it was a 344 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 8: weird feeling. 345 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 9: I was. 346 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 8: I was out of town. I was on a fishing 347 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 8: trip in Yellowstone, but I was locked in. I was 348 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 8: in the airport, but locked in on my phone watching 349 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 8: the game. Uh play by play it was. I was 350 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 8: glad they game on with the wind. You know, it's 351 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 8: tough to always play in Cleveland again. That win first 352 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 8: week is so huge to set up the season. I 353 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 8: was pumped for him. 354 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're gonna miss game day. But what about 355 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: training camp? Did you miscamp up? 356 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 9: Yeah? 357 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 8: You know, I've had August this training camp for the 358 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 8: last I don't even know, fifteen twenty years, and having 359 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 8: that month back to myself was different for sure. I 360 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 8: definitely was doing other activities outside of training camp, but 361 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 8: I definitely missed the you know, the time you spend 362 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 8: with your teammates that August training camp, you really develop 363 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 8: who you're going to be as a team. You kind 364 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 8: of get closer, develop those relationships. And I was texting 365 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 8: some guys seeing what was going on, what was the 366 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 8: latest developments. You know, it's it's fun chatter. And just 367 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 8: felt a little out of the loop, but that's the 368 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 8: natural the way of things. 369 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: Well, I am sure you're up to speed on Week 370 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: one now. Road wins in the AFC North are prized commodity. 371 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: What did you think about Cincinnati's victory in Cleveland. 372 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's huge that, Like you said, those AFC North 373 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 8: winds are massive for setting you up for the postseason. 374 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 8: My career, of the last several years, we've had trouble 375 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 8: winning in Cleveland. It's a tough place to play, the grass, 376 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 8: the crowd, that defense is you know, it's it's a 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 8: tough win and I'm glad they pulled it off, setting 378 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 8: themselves up to to be top of the vision and 379 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 8: you know, fight to stay at top it as the 380 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 8: season goes on. 381 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: When you win a game like that and you didn't 382 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: play your best, are you fine with it. I'm sure 383 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: immediately after the victory you are. But as the days 384 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 1: go by, do you still feel good about it? 385 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 8: Well, when you can win those games that are close. 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 8: You know, last year we had a lot of those 387 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 8: games and we didn't win them, And that's all that 388 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 8: matters is getting those wins and learning from them. And 389 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 8: I'll tell you, you do a lot better in the 390 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 8: long run winning close games like that and learning from 391 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 8: them than you do, you know, having losing all those. 392 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 8: You know, I'm sure that with the way that they played, 393 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 8: they're very motivated on fixing their mistakes. I know several 394 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 8: guys are, you know, not happy with a one to 395 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 8: oh start with that type of win, So I'm sure 396 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 8: they're building on it and excited about the momentum and 397 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 8: first home game, perfect place to put on their best performance. 398 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: One thing they are definitely happy about was the run defense. 399 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: In Week one, Cleveland ran it twenty four times, no 400 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: runs longer than five yards. They averaged two yards per carry. 401 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: How closely does stopping the run like that correlate to victory? 402 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 8: Very closely, especially on the road. You know, I saw 403 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 8: a lot of guys taking on blocks, shedding blocks, block 404 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 8: destruction making tackles usually early in the season. Early in 405 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 8: the weeks, you see a lot of mistackles as people 406 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 8: get back into the swing of things. I think they 407 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 8: did a great job. Obviously, we're working really hard in 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 8: camp on tackling, putting an emphasis on it, and it 409 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 8: showed up. And if you can have those fundamentals and 410 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 8: really build your foundation on stopping the run early in 411 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 8: the season, it becomes a standard and I think that 412 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 8: sets them up well. That's a very big positive. 413 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: When you went to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty one, 414 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Al Golden was the Bengals linebackers coach. What was your 415 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: reaction when he came back to be the DC. 416 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, I know Il really well. I know how much 417 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 8: he loves football, how intense he is in his preparation. 418 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 8: We always talk about how early he gets there and 419 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 8: all his coffee, and you know how much football means 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 8: to him. And I think that resonates to the defense, 421 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 8: especially with these young guys coming from college. You know, 422 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 8: he had experience in college and knows how to develop guys. 423 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 8: And I thought it was a great fit. Knowing Cincinnati, 424 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 8: knowing you know, the coaching staff, a lot of the 425 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 8: players too. I was excited about the fit, and obviously 426 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 8: they're off to a great start. 427 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: You and Trey Hendrickson formed a dynamic duo at defensive end. 428 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: What do you respect most about Trey? 429 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 9: Yeah. 430 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 8: I have a lot of respect for play obviously, Trey. 431 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 8: Obviously we have grown very close over the years, had 432 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 8: a lot of big moments, a lot of big wins together. 433 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 8: I really respect his intensity, his work ethic. He's one 434 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 8: of the most intense guys you'll find on the football field, 435 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 8: and that translates to his play, and you know, he's 436 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 8: always looking to get better. He texted me after the 437 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 8: game coach me up, and I thought that was funny. 438 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 8: You know, he's had a great forty pass rush win 439 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 8: or something like that, and he was still focused on 440 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 8: you know, he's got to improve, He's got to get better. 441 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 8: So that's just the relentless mindset that I think makes 442 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 8: him great. 443 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: Will you coach him up? 444 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 9: Did you watch the tape? 445 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 8: I watched it. I don't know if he needs much 446 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 8: coaching for me, but sometimes it's good for a second 447 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 8: set of eyes just to bounce ideas off of. So 448 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 8: I'm always there for that for anybody. 449 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Sam, you got to know Joe Burrow as an eighteen 450 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: year old college freshman, and you two guys have been 451 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: fast friends ever since. When did you start to think 452 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow could be one of the best quarterbacks 453 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: to do it? 454 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 8: You know, it's an evolution, I think that. You know, 455 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 8: when the quarterback battle was going on at Ohio State, 456 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 8: it dragged on very long because Joe simply wouldn't allow 457 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 8: a clear decision. He was fighting constantly, you know, making 458 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 8: his case. And you know, Dwayne Haskins was a great 459 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 8: player and came in for the Michigan game the year 460 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 8: before because Joe's hand was broken, and you know, it 461 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 8: kind of set him back, but he fought tooth and 462 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 8: nail and I just earned so much respect for him 463 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 8: during that quarterback battle. And obviously I went to the 464 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 8: NFL and he went to LSUS, so we never got 465 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 8: to play together. But watching him from Afar, you know, 466 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 8: I was campaigning for him to come to the Bengals, 467 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 8: to Zach to Joe, trying to broker that relationship just 468 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 8: as a friend, knowing how much it'd mean to us, 469 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 8: and thankfully it all worked out. 470 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Good recruiting on your part. I remember that National semifinal 471 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: game against Oklahoma, where he threw seven touchdown passes in 472 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: the first half, and at that point it was likely 473 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: that the Bengals were going to have the first pick 474 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: in the draft. Were you as excited watching that LSU 475 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: Oklahoma game as I was. 476 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 6: No. 477 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 8: I watched every one of his college games with some 478 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 8: of my our Ohio state friends and we just were 479 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 8: you know, in all I like, I think the whole 480 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 8: country was in you know, his performance in big stages, 481 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 8: his growth from his I think his red shirt junior 482 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 8: year to his red shirt senior year, but all throughout 483 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 8: the toughness he showed. I think it took a lot 484 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 8: of people by surprise and gained a lot of Joe 485 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 8: Burrow fans. But we had a close, a close game 486 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 8: to Miami late in that year where we could have 487 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 8: beaten them in double overtime and lost the first pick. 488 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 8: I'm just glad it worked out and we were although 489 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 8: it was a tough year too, you know, in twenty 490 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 8: nineteen to go two and fourteen and paid off getting 491 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 8: that first overall pick to get our. 492 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Guy Sam After you fire up the fans as the 493 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: ruler of the jungle. This Sunday, the Bengals will host 494 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, coming off an impressive Week one win 495 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: over Carolina. What are some keys to victory for the 496 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: Bengals this Sunday. 497 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's starting fast, you know. I think 498 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 8: that this crowd is going to be incredible open an Orange. 499 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 8: There's gonna be a lot of excitement, a lot of tailgating. 500 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 8: I'll hopefully provide some juice and energy at the start. 501 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 8: But you know, we've had a lot of home openers 502 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 8: where we didn't start fast. I remember playing Jacksonville Week 503 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 8: four on Thursday night in twenty twenty one and we're 504 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 8: down fourteen to nothing at half, and that just makes 505 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 8: it harder. But if you can get that lead early, 506 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 8: get the crowd behind you, get that crowd noise going, 507 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: start getting those pass rushers to get a good get off. 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 8: With that silent count and a little chaos, I think 509 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 8: they can really establish a strong foundation to winning at home. 510 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 8: That can be the key to getting where they want 511 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 8: to be at the end of the year. So I 512 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 8: think it's just starting fast and not letting any adversity 513 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 8: that arises that will for sure arise shake these new 514 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 8: players and it'll be fun to watch. 515 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: You're doing phenomenal work in the community with the Sam 516 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: Hubbard Foundation. What do you have going on this time 517 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: of year and how can people help? 518 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, this time of year, schools back in session. Our 519 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 8: main program, Hubbard's Cupboards, is grown by fifteen schools this year. 520 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 8: This school year that just started, We're in thirty six 521 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 8: local schools providing resources for confidence and school supplies, high 522 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 8: gene items, healthy snacks and if you're interested in learning more, 523 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 8: check it out on our website Sam Hubbard Foundation dot com. 524 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 8: And I'm excited to be still in this community here 525 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 8: in Cincinnati doing things like this and staying involved. 526 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: We are excited to see you on the stage as 527 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: the Ruler of the Jungle this Sunday. I appreciate your 528 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: time and enjoy the season as a fan for the 529 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: first time in a long time. 530 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 8: Thanks Dan, always a pleasure see you there. 531 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Sam gave us some keys to victory. The Bengals are 532 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: favored by three and a half. The Bengals Booth podcast 533 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: is brought to you by pay Corps, proud to be 534 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals official HR software provider by Alta Fiber future 535 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,719 Speaker 1: proof fiber Internet designed to elevate your home, business, and 536 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,199 Speaker 1: community to a new level and by Kettering Health the 537 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: best care for the best fans. Kettering Health is the 538 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: official healthcare provider of the Bengals. Now time for this 539 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: week's Know the Faux segment. After a dreadful season that 540 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: ended with a four and thirteen record, the Jacksonville Jaguars 541 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: cleaned house, firing their GM and head coach. The new 542 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 1: GM is thirty five year old James Gladstone, the youngest 543 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: GM in the NFL. The new head coach is thirty 544 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: nine year old Liam Cohen, among the five youngest head 545 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, and the team's new vice president 546 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: of football Operations is Hall of Fame offensive lineman Tony Bisselli. 547 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: The new trio is off to a good start after 548 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: a twenty six to ten Week one win over Carolina. 549 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Frank Frangie is the voice of the Jaguars and joined 550 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham and me this week on the Bengals Game 551 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: Plan Show. 552 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: It's been a tough go around here, as you guys know, 553 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 3: and it was a good start, and even in the 554 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 3: offseason it felt like it might be that way. Tony 555 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 3: Bucelli is running things around here now. The new regime 556 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: seems to be all pulling in the same direction, which 557 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: we haven't maybe always had. So yeah, it was a 558 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: good start. It was just it was one game, but 559 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: I think it felt pretty good around here. I think 560 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: your assessment's dead. 561 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: On what did the Jaguars do best? In your opinion 562 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: when you were watching the game live, What did they 563 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 4: do that kind of made you perk up in the 564 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: in your in the broadcast booth and take notice, or 565 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: after the game when you had time to look at 566 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: it again in review tape of it, what might have 567 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: jumped out at you? 568 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: Okay, But I think the main thing is they said 569 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: they were going to run the ball, and they said 570 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 3: they were going to be a physical So, you know, we. 571 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 9: Have a new regime. 572 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: You never really know, right, you know, you have an 573 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 3: idea what they want to be and what they hope 574 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: they'll be. But Liam Cohen ran the ball as the 575 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 3: coordinator in Tampa last year, and I think one of 576 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: the things that helped him really sort of unlock some 577 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: things in Baker Mayfield is he got Bucky Irving in 578 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: that running game going, and I think that's one of 579 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: the things that made him attractive to Jacksonville. Well, he 580 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: got here and they said, listen, we're going to run 581 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 3: the football. 582 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 9: We're going to we have to be a physical football team. 583 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 9: And they did that. 584 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: They stuck to the run. They ran for two hundred yards. 585 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: You know, the running the teams that are committed to 586 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: the run. Everybody could run on first and ten, but 587 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: he's still willing to run on second and nine, right 588 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: or second and eight. And I think they were so. 589 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: I think the commitment to the run traves ETN had 590 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: the big game rushing. The team rushed for two hundred yards. 591 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 3: They were more physical than this team's been in a while. 592 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 3: I think there's one thing that jumped off the page 593 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: and I think we were all kind of excited about 594 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: is they said they were going to run the football and. 595 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 9: They did right. 596 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: My son is a student at the University of Colorado, 597 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: so I watched a lot of Travis Hunter last year 598 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: and it was an amazing show on both sides of 599 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: the ball. In Week one, most the offense, just a 600 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: few snaps on defense. I heard that Liam Cohen apparently 601 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: said earlier today he'll play more defense this week. How 602 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: has he looked, I mean, has he been as impressive 603 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: on the practice field as he was for the Buffaloes 604 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: last year. 605 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 9: You know, damn. 606 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 3: The thing is he's never tired wherever. 607 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 9: I don't even where he is right now, but wherever 608 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 9: he is, he's not tired. 609 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now. 610 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 9: He's never tired. 611 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: That's the amazing thing about him. And I'll say this, Yeah, 612 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: he's look good in practice. He's got to learn the offense. 613 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: He's got to learn defense. But he can play all 614 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: day long. And if your son watched him, you probably 615 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 3: watched him. 616 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 9: You know this. 617 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: He's got the endurance. What he's got to do is 618 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: learn the offense and the defense. Last week he played 619 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: forty two plays on offense and six on defense. I 620 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: think this week the plan is to play more on defensive. 621 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: Liam said for a couple of reasons. Number one, he 622 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: got the first game under his belt. Right now, he's 623 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: got the feel of playing on both sides of the 624 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 3: ball and knowing both game plans. And he did that 625 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: one time, so this will be the second time he's 626 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: done that. 627 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 9: The other thing is. 628 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 3: He's playing Joe Burrow. Okay, with all apologies to Bryce Young, 629 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: this week, he's playing Joe Burrow. When he's playing those 630 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: receivers so I think it's all hands on deck. Defensively, 631 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 3: I don't know that it's going to be. Let's say 632 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: there's sixty offensive plays and sixty defense. I don't know 633 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 3: that he's going to play forty and forty, but I'll 634 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: bet you he plays twenty to twenty five on defense, 635 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: would be my guest this week, and forty or so 636 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: on offense. If I was guessing, I think that's where 637 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: it would be. 638 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 9: But yeah, he's been very impressive. 639 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: He's a great kid, hard worker, gained the respect of 640 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 3: his teammates really right out of the gate, and he's 641 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: going to be some player. 642 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 9: He really is. 643 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 4: What other players on the Jacksonville Jaguars have impressed you. 644 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: I would say Travis Etn had the big game. You know, 645 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 3: people have been trying to chase off TRAVIS'STN forever. Right, 646 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 3: He's the first round draft pick. He was just okay 647 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 3: for some of those years, so they thought, I think 648 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: Bigsby might beat him out. He's more of a downhill runner. 649 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 3: Then they drafted to running backs, they drafted Basil Tutons, 650 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: they drafted le Quinn Allen, and everybody thought Travis might 651 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 3: be say everybody, many thought Travis might be the forgotten man. Well, 652 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: he took that personally. 653 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 9: He said, okay, okay's still my job. 654 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: And he had the big game one hundred and forty 655 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 3: plus last week, so he certainly looked good. And I 656 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: think one of the reasons is they blocked. They brought 657 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: in Robert Hainsey to be their center. He's a physical player. 658 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: They brought in Patrick McCarey from the Ravens to be 659 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 3: the right guard. 660 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 9: He's a physical player. Ezra Cleveland, the left guard. 661 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: Was always athletics, but I thought he had a little 662 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 3: more lead in his rear end this time than I've 663 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: seen in the past. So the running game Travis CTN 664 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: stood out. And I'll say this, Foyer Lucan had a 665 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 3: great game. He was kind of playing out of position. 666 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: He's always led the team in tackles. He's often led 667 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: the league at tackles. 668 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 9: Last year they moved him to from the mic to. 669 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 3: The will because they thought he'd played space better, and 670 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: it was a mistake. He's back at the mike linebacker spot. 671 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 9: He was the player. 672 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: He was the AFC Player of the Week defensively this week, 673 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: and he earned that with ten tackles and a diving interception. 674 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 9: I would say a Lucon. 675 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: On the defensive side the middle linebacker, and travisse Etn 676 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: on the offensive side who had a really big game. 677 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: Those two guys are attorneyes that were real pleased with 678 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: how they played. 679 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: There are a lot of high draft picks on the 680 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: defensive line. Frank the number one overall pick from a 681 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: few years back, Trayvon Walker the seventh pick in the 682 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: draft not too long ago, Josh heinz Allen many years ago, 683 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead was the seventeenth pick in the draft. Remains 684 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: a giant up front. How good is that group? Because 685 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns front gave Cincinnati a lot of trouble last. 686 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 9: Week and the ends are very good. 687 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: I would say that Josh heines Allen and Trayvon Walker 688 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: are going to continue to be good players. 689 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 9: Two years ago, Josh. 690 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 3: Had seventeen and a half sacks and Trayvon had ten. 691 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 3: Last year, Treyvon had ten. Josh didnt that as good 692 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 3: a year, but the ends are good. 693 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 9: They're good there. 694 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 3: Duan smooth Is the backup end, had two sacks last 695 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: week or a sacond and a half. They went and 696 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 3: got Emmanuel ogg go to be a backup end, so 697 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: I think they're okay outside. I would say that the 698 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: jury is still out on the tackles. Eric Armistead did 699 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: not practice much. He was hurt too much a camp 700 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: played last week. I'm not sure he played, made a 701 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: lot of splash plays. De Von Hamilton, the nose guard, 702 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: played okay last week. They added two guys, Austin Johnson 703 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 3: from Buffalo and Colin Saunders from from New Orleans. I 704 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 3: think they're just okay at tackle. I think if you 705 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 3: if you try to identify a concern on the football 706 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 3: team going into the season coming out of camp, it 707 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: would be defensive tackle. I'm not sure they fixed that. 708 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see. So I think the ends 709 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 3: are pretty good and and I think they like where 710 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 3: they are with their ends. They'd probably like to see 711 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: the tackles flash a little bit more. I think I would, 712 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 3: And I think that's probably where they are as well. 713 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 4: How how big a focus is ball security with the 714 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 4: coaching staff during the course of practice. 715 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'll tell you this. Any team that runs 716 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 3: the ball and it's sound like a broken record here, 717 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: guys that I apologize, but we haven't done that around here, 718 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 3: right any team it's that committed to running the ball. 719 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 3: Better take care of the ball. You know, if you 720 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: think if you're a running team, the game's going to 721 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 3: be a little shorter, right, You're not as likely to 722 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 3: come from behind, And I think you better care of 723 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 3: the ball. 724 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 8: Now. 725 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 9: Again, they've played one game. 726 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean Trevor won't throw it forty five times 727 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 3: on Sunday in Cincinnati. But I think that's who they 728 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 3: want to be. You always want to establish your identity, 729 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 3: and I think that's who they want to be. So 730 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: they've got to take care of the ball, and Trevor's 731 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: got to take better care of the ball. He would 732 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 3: tell you that Trevor's got to. Trevor Lawrence is a 733 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: really good kid and he's going to be a very 734 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: good player in this league. There's no doubt in my mind. 735 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: I think he's made progress, but the one thing he's 736 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: got to do is take care of the ball. I 737 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 3: think Trevor was so successful in college sticking balls in 738 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: there where you probably shouldn't have been able to. But 739 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 3: his receivers were so good and his arm is so 740 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: good that he got some balls in it and. 741 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,280 Speaker 9: Maybe you shouldn't. You shouldn't have been able to write. 742 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: And you have to learn and you get in this 743 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: league and didn't like that. You get in this league. 744 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,959 Speaker 3: That cornerback from wake Forest who couldn't quite get there 745 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 3: is now a cornerback from the Denver Broncos who's going 746 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 3: to get there right. And I think that he had 747 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 3: to learn that and I think he's starting to. So, Yes, 748 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: small security is a big deal. Turnovers or the kiss 749 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 3: of dead. By the way, we were the worst team 750 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: in the league last year in takeaways. The Jagguars had 751 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: nine takeaways all last year. The defense got them nine 752 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: turnovers all last year. They harready got three in the 753 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: first game. They had three takeaways for a team that's 754 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 3: a third of what they did in the entire season. 755 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 9: So that's certainly a point of emphasis with his defense 756 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 9: as well. 757 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: Three years ago, Jacksonville made the playoffs and won a 758 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: playoff game, one of the great comebacks in football history, 759 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty seven zip to beat the Chargers. They still had 760 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: a winning record the following year and Trevor Lawrence got 761 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: hurt late in the season or they might have made 762 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs again. And then last year the bottom fell 763 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: out for whatever reason. Four wins all year. What happened. 764 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: Why did they fall off that coup last year? 765 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 9: Boy, then that is the question. 766 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: I'm still horse from that comeback three years ago, so 767 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: I remember it well. One of the fun moments we've 768 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,879 Speaker 3: all had around here. 769 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 9: You know what the question you just asked is is. 770 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 3: The bizarre one? They had the really good year under 771 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson his first year here the playoffs, They won 772 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 3: the playoff game, they went they may be Elite eight 773 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: if you will, of the NFL, and then lost to 774 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 3: obviously a very good Chiefs team. 775 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 9: And they were very good that year. 776 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 3: The next year they started eight and three and it 777 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 3: looked like they were It looked like they were pretty good. Now, 778 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 3: if you remember the game against the Bengals here, Christian 779 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 3: Kirk got hurt. Okay, in that game when he got her. 780 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 3: There were eight and three at the time, and that's 781 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 3: the game he got hurt, and that started the spiral down. 782 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 9: Man. 783 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 3: They finished one in five. One in five started with 784 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 3: that game against the Bengals and never picked up the pieces. 785 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: I thought last year they kind of would resurrect that, 786 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 3: but they just never got it going. Doug Peterson's a 787 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 3: wonderful man. I think he's a very good football coach, 788 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure he and the in the GM 789 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 3: were pulling in the same direction. The more you lose, 790 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: the more confidence you lose. And you know that defensively 791 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 3: they weren't very good. They brought in a new coordinator, 792 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 3: Ryan Neilson last year, and it was a disaster defensively, 793 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: so the offense was playing catchup all the time. It 794 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 3: hard to run the ball when you're down seventeen to 795 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: six in the second quarter, and that was kind of 796 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 3: the season they had. So yeah, it was I'm not 797 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: sure everything that happened, Dan, but it. 798 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 9: Was a hard year. 799 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 3: Man. It was a hard year, and that's why sometimes 800 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: we have those. That's why you have all the changes. 801 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 3: They had the changes, and I think that's why there's 802 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 3: so much positivity now because they are all pulling in 803 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 3: the same direction and they all seem to be of 804 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 3: a similar mind, and I think they're excited about where 805 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 3: they are. 806 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 9: I really believe that. 807 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: All right, thanks to Frank Frangie, And here's a quick 808 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: invitation to join us for the Bengals pep Rally show 809 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: this week will be at the on the Rhine Eatery 810 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: on the second floor above the Downtown Kroger on Friday 811 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: from three to six and our special guest in the 812 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: final hour will be defensive lineman Joseph Osai. 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