1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we are 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: still watching that clip of Serena Williams crip walking in 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl halftime performance, a clapback at critics from 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: the Olympics, and a chance to dog a dude to 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: try to dishear and her husband because he didn't get 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: the girl. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Oh and plus she looked fire doing it. Let's go. 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, February twelveth and on today's show, we're skipping 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: the need to know and jumping right into my chat 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: with Claire Thompson, a defender for the Minnesota Frost of 11 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: the Pro Women's Hockey League. We talked on Monday about 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: how she's balancing medical school and hockey ambitions preparing for 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Milano Cortina Winter Olympics, her affinity 14 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: for travel, and her minimal. 15 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 2: Desire to trash talk. That interview is coming up right 16 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: after this joining us now. 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: She's an Olympic gold medalist and World champ with Team 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Canada Hockey, a defender for the Minnesota Frost of the 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Professional Women's Hockey League, and currently on a little hockey 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: brain from medical school at the NYU Grossman School of medicine, 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: a Princeton Tiger, a fellow Michigan fan despite neither of 22 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: us attending. She's hung out with sled dogs in Alberta 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: and elephants in Thailand, and she once slept in a 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: sea through pot on the side of a mountain in Peru. 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: It's Claire Thompson. What's up, Claire? 26 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Hi, thank you for having me. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: I gotta start with Michigan. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: I chose them after a lengthy process called college Football Bachelorette, 29 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: wherein I needed to select a football team to root for. 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Since I went to Cornell and it's not a big 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: college football school, how'd you end up rooting for Michigan? 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: Michigan was my dream school. We had a tournament in 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 4: Michigan in ann Arbor when I was in novice, I 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: think I was like eight years old, and we toured 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: the Michigan facilities and went to a men's hockey game there, 36 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 4: And from then I was a dead set on going 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: to Michigan, despite them not having a women's team. 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that ended up getting in the way. 39 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Do you still feel bad about choosing Princeton over Cornell? 40 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: I was sad in the moment but I'm proud to 42 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: be prince. Sometimes you got over it. 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, important things first, Why are we still calling 44 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: women and hockey defencemen? 45 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: Can we work on that? What's our solution to this? 46 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm honestly not sure. 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 4: I think people try to use the gender neutral term 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 4: just defense and not put a gender to it. 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely something we could work on. 50 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, defense woman doesn't have the same ring to it. 51 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: But also defense doesn't feel grammatically correct sometimes, so I 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: end up just stumbling and saying defencemen and being like, ah, 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: that's not that's not right. 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to work on something to work on. 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: It's been so great to see you in the PWHL 56 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: this second season. Can you tell our listeners why you 57 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: didn't play in year one? 58 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't play in year one because I was attending 59 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: medical school and the demands of my clinical training. I 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 4: just couldn't be at practice and in the hospital at 61 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: the same time. 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: So I had to pick one or the other. 63 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: And I had kind of already signed up for my 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 4: year of medical school before the league came together, so 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: it was kind of a wasn't really a decision to 66 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 4: be made. 67 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: It was just unfortunate. I had to sit out last season. 68 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there was something with a visa too, 69 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: where at one point you thought you might be able 70 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: to do both, and then it kind of threw a 71 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: wrench in the plans. 72 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on an F one student visa, so 73 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't able to work a job that wasn't in 74 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: my field of study. 75 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: So I couldn't. 76 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: Sign a reserve player contract and be paid to play 77 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 4: hockey while my visa was for medicine. So I had 78 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 4: to wait a bit to switch my visa and get 79 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: work authorization and all that. So it never quite came 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 4: together last season. But for a while I was optimistic 81 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: that it was going to work out, but it didn't 82 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: end up happening. 83 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I feel like if this were the much sneakier men's 84 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: side of sports, they would have just like hired you 85 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: as a physical therapist, chock it up to a medical gig, 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: and then thrown you out on the ice. 87 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: We got, Yeah, we got our sneakiness. 88 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: I know, but I didn't. You know, immigration and everything. 89 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: It's pretty serious stuff. So I didn't want to do 90 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: anything that would like jeopardize my future abilities to work 91 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: or to play in the United States, so I went 92 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: by the book and waited the lengthy process of acquiring 93 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: a new visa and all of that. So it was 94 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: a bit of a bummer in the moment, but it 95 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: definitely gave me the chance to really lean into medical 96 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: school and be very present for this past year of training, 97 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: which in retrospect, I'm really grateful for. 98 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: That seems like the smart move. 99 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm starting to understand why you're becoming a doctor ninety 100 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: ninth percentile in the MCATs. 101 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was a good test day for me. 102 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: I yeah, I don't know it worked out. 103 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: You got lucky? 104 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah, nobody believes that clear. Okay, So, how tough 105 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: was it to put medical school on hold and enter 106 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: the league? Like, obviously there's a time limit for hockey 107 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: in a different way than there is for medicine, but 108 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 1: that's also something that requires a tremendous amount of work 109 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: and effort, and to be in the middle of it 110 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: and have to part with either. 111 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: How tough was that? 112 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: It was pretty tough. 113 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 4: It was a sad realization that the people I started 114 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: medical school with and some of my best friends right 115 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 4: now wouldn't be the people I would graduate with and 116 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 4: wouldn't be the people that you know, you go through 117 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 4: all those milestones of taking your board exams together and 118 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 4: applying to residency and matching and all of that, all 119 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 4: those steps. It was it's a bit sad for me 120 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: to know that I won't be doing that alongside my 121 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: best friends, which is disappointing, But I also look at 122 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: how grateful I am to have best friends playing hockey, 123 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 4: and I couldn't imagine a world in which I wasn't 124 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 4: alongside those girls pushing for the next Olympics, pushing to 125 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 4: make the PWHL better. 126 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: And so it was kind of I. 127 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: Had two worlds to choose from, and knowing I had 128 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: amazing people in both places, in two areas I wanted 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: to be a part of. 130 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: It was I was so grateful for the time I got. 131 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: To spend with my med school classmates and getting to 132 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 4: know them and stuff, but I was more than happy 133 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: to come back and be alongside all my hockey teammates 134 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: and everything. So I just really grateful to have such 135 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: amazing people that made making a decision so so hard. 136 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like there's the similar bonding probably with 137 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: classmates in medical school, like not real trauma bonding, but 138 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: like it's stressful. There's a lot of tough days and 139 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: big tests and long night studying. Does it feel similar 140 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: to some of the bonds you make with teammates when 141 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: you're doing like super hard workouts and getting ready for 142 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: stressful tournaments. 143 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think. Yeah, whenever you're kind of 144 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: put in the same positions as other people, and those 145 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: are the people you lean on because of shared experiences 146 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: and shared understanding of what you're going through in the 147 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: stressors you're facing. It's hard not to get very close 148 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 4: to those people. And then in New York at and 149 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 4: why you a lot of us were really fortunate, but 150 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 4: the Grossman School of Medicine has an apartment building that 151 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 4: they subsidize the rent for their medical students because it's 152 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: really expensive to be a medical school but also really 153 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: expensive to be living in New York. So then a 154 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: lot of us actually live together, and so it's you know, 155 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: shared experiences like being together a lot. 156 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 3: Of the time. 157 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very similar to being on a team and 158 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 4: working together to get through it, to get through those 159 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: tests and all of that. So yeah, you definitely form 160 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 4: really close bonds to people, and it makes the experience 161 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: that much better because of the people. But yeah, I 162 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: would say I never really thought of it like they 163 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: were my teammates. But they were my teammates, those yaws 164 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 4: going through all of all of those hardships together. 165 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: This feels like a TV show. 166 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe it hasn't been made yet that there 167 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: isn't a show about the medical school side of medicine. 168 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: When you all live in an apartment together. There's like 169 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: a million medical shows, and where there's one of the 170 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: doctors that also goes to hockey practice every day. I 171 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: think we need to pitch this, Claire, this is yeah, 172 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: all right, we. 173 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: Need to pitch this. Do you know what type of 174 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: medicine you want to specialize in? 175 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fairly certain I want to do orthopedic surgery. 176 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: Cool gosh, I just it's so overwhelming to even think 177 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: about trying to balance all your ambitions in one place 178 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and another. Was there ever a point when you felt 179 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: like it was sort of incompatible to be as ambitious 180 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: as you are in both spaces. 181 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: I'm not really, I think I you know, I haven't 182 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 4: really hit a point yet. I mean, I guess last 183 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: year you could say I wasn't able to do both, 184 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: but I still knew, like I was still playing hockey 185 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 4: and practicing, and I knew I was gonna come back 186 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: to the p WHL, And so no, there's never really 187 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: been a point where I haven't thought it was possible 188 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: to do it all. Definitely, some long nights involved some 189 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: busy travel days and stuff, But at no point have 190 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: I ever thought that I haven't been able to achieve 191 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: both or achieve my goals in either because of the other. 192 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: So I'm really grateful. I think that none of this 193 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: would be possible without the people in my life supporting 194 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: me in both sides and supporting the person that I 195 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 4: am who wants to do everything and so I am. 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: I would be mistaken not to acknowledge the people that 197 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: make like the team around the team, the people that 198 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 4: make this all possible. 199 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: But so far it's been going well. 200 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: I was listening to on the Jackson Jills podcast and 201 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I noticed that Tessa said when she walked up to 202 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: start the interview, she joked that were you studying and 203 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you said, yes, So are you still sort of maintaining 204 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: this through line of medical study behind the scenes just 205 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: so that you're ready to go when you head back. 206 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 207 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: I am doing a bit of work on the side. 208 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: I have to take one of my more important board exams. 209 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: I'm probably going to try to take that in the spring, 210 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: so I study a little bit each day for that, 211 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: just so that when I sit down and start studying 212 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: again for it, truly it's stuff is still fresh and 213 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 4: there's you know, a lot of time across the days 214 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 4: that I can just put a little bit in and 215 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: chip away at the large amount of content that I 216 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: have to get through. And then I still do research 217 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: for the Sports Medicine Orthopedic Department at NYU to stay 218 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: involved with kind of that community and just reaffirm that 219 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: that is what I want to spend the rest of 220 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: my life doing after I retire from hockey. 221 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 222 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: So when you were trying to do a little of both, 223 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: what does a day in your life look like? Because 224 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: I feel like it's got to be a lot of 225 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: discipline to get you know, your time management and everything 226 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: handled so you can get it all in in twenty 227 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: four hours. 228 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of depended. 229 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: Last year I was on my clinical rotation, so even 230 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 4: within those rotations, the days looked very different from being 231 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: in the OAR in early starts and rounding on patients 232 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: to then other days when I was in the clinic 233 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 4: and it was more of like a nine to five picture, 234 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: but it kind of you know, I would wake up, 235 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 4: try to get a little bit of work done if 236 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: I didn't have to be in the hospital too early, 237 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: go to the hospital, be a part of the team 238 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: that I was assigned to, and just try to help 239 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: make anyone's job just a little bit easier doing tasks 240 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: that I was able to do, to take off you know, 241 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 4: the residents and the attending's plates. And then you know, 242 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: we'd come home from the hospital whenever we were dismissed, 243 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: and then I would usually either lift and do a workout, 244 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: or I would go and practice at the rink in 245 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: New York if it was one of the days that 246 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 4: the NYU men's team was practicing. And then with whatever 247 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: kind of time was left in the day, I would 248 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: study for the like exams we had to take. 249 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: But it's busy as a med student. 250 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: But I you know, I've been fortunate that my trainer 251 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 4: from home was really great about programming my lifting schedule 252 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: and you know, making the most of like the hour 253 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: I had each day to work out and then I 254 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: would have to dedicate a bit more time to practice 255 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 4: days where I had to travel. 256 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: More and stuff. 257 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: But I was really fortunate that the people were in 258 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: my life were able to be flexible with me and 259 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 4: allow me time to get my studying done because that 260 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 4: was really important to me. But then also find you know, 261 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: make time to get the workouts done and stay in 262 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 4: shape and as. 263 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 3: Best as I could coming back into the league. 264 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a constant re upping, both physically and 265 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: mentally of everything you can within a certain day to 266 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: keep it as fresh as possible. You know, before the PWHL, 267 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: one of the things that the previous women's hockey leagues 268 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't have was something that seems pretty basic in retrospect, 269 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: a team physician. 270 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: You're young enough that you didn't play. 271 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: In those other leagues, but I'm wondering how your time 272 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: in medical school has sort of informed or understanding of 273 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: what medical standards in women's hockey should look like. 274 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I you know, I think that the PWHL has 275 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: done a fantastic job. The head physician of the league, 276 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: doctor Tina Atkinson, was my team physician going into the 277 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: and throughout the Olympic year, and so The league is 278 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: in great hands with her at the HELM, and I 279 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 4: think that it's going to be really exciting some of 280 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 4: the data that's going to come out of I know 281 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 4: that they're keeping track of all the injuries and everything 282 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: that's been going on, and so I think there's going 283 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: to be a lot of good research coming out on 284 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: professional women's hockey players. In the past, I think there 285 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 4: has been a disproportionate amount of study on men's professional 286 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: hockey players and men's professional athletes in general compared to 287 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: professional female athletes. So I think it'll be really exciting 288 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 4: for the future studies and the amount that we're going 289 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 4: to be able to look at what's been going on 290 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 4: within women's hockey and then you know, use that to 291 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: put in better policies to keep our bodies healthier. 292 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 293 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: I love that you could also sort of either self 294 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: diagnose if you start to feel something, or your teammates 295 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: might come to and be like, Okay, how serious is this? 296 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Should I go to the trainer or should I just 297 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: play through it like you're like a little doogie house 298 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: around the ice. I keep using that reference for young 299 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: people and no one knows what it means. That is 300 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: a very old show about a doctor who is like fifteen. 301 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we got to take a quick break. When 302 00:13:53,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: we come back more with Claire Thompson. Sit tight, I 303 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: want to talk hockey. 304 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: You're the Olympic record holder for points by a defender 305 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: in a single tournament. You finish the Beijing Games with 306 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: the highest plus minus rating of anyone in the tournament, 307 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: with the plus twenty three. You've got the twenty twenty 308 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: six Olympics next year. How is twenty twenty six next 309 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: year already? That's insane. How does the existence of the 310 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: PWHL and this league that you're getting constant reps in 311 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: change your preparation on your training compared to prior games. 312 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really changed the landscape a lot 313 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: in previous years. The Canadian and US national teams will 314 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: centralize before so we'll all move to the same place 315 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: for the months leading up and practice and train together 316 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: every day, which I think helps us put in a 317 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 4: ton of time and getting reps together. Whereas next year 318 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: we won't step. 319 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: Away from the league. 320 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: All the players will play for their clubs and then 321 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: come out and just it'll be a shorter run up 322 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 4: to the Olympics, so I think that it's going to 323 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: look a little different. We haven't you know, we haven't 324 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: been named to the team or even to the pool yet, 325 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: and we don't know what the schedule is going to 326 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 4: look like. But I know that there are a lot 327 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 4: of people working very hard behind the scenes to make 328 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 4: sure that we're adequately prepared. And then I think, you know, 329 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: for some of the other I mean, for a long time, 330 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: it's been a big Canada US rivalry, but I think 331 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 4: the exposure of some of the other European players playing 332 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: in our league, I think the gap is closing very quickly, 333 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 4: and I think it'll make for a really exciting Olympics 334 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: and international play with the upcoming World Championships, as those 335 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: players have the opportunity to be involved with players that 336 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: they previously wouldn't have had the opportunity to practice with 337 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: in that year leading up to the Olympics. 338 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that, you played with Team Canada in 339 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: the rivalry series that recently wrapped up. Has it been 340 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: different playing against the US now that you regularly play 341 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: with and against so many familiar faces in the PWHL. 342 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was this past week was my first time 343 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: kind of playing against the Americans that I had gotten 344 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: to know so well over this year, and I think 345 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: it is a bit different. 346 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: It's harder to be mean to them. I always have 347 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: a hard time. 348 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: With that, but you know, I think you tend to 349 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 4: when you practice with people day and day out and 350 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: you see the habits and like the little things that 351 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 4: they do so well that you maybe wouldn't have never 352 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: noticed not seeing that on such a consistent basis. I 353 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 4: already had a tremendous amount of respect for my opponents, 354 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: but now, you know, playing alongside them and getting to 355 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: know them as people, you know, I just have so 356 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: much more respect for everything that these other women do 357 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: on the other teams, and it makes it maybe a 358 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 4: bit harder to play against them. But you know, it's 359 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: everyone's a competitor, and anytime you get on the ice 360 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: with them, no matter if it's a mini game in practice, 361 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: people are competing hard. So it's a lot of fun 362 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: playing against them now that I know them. But yeah, 363 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 4: it is a little bit different. 364 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: It's like the famous Mark Twain quote, travel is fatal 365 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness. Like when you finally 366 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: meet the people that you think you hate you're like, oh, 367 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: they're just like me. It's like you're like, darn it, 368 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: it's so hard to hate the US. 369 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: They're my teammates. Now I love them. 370 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Is there a lot of trash talk with the Frost though, 371 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: because you've got folks like Kendall Quoinschofield against whom you've 372 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: played in the Olympics, in World Championships, have like been 373 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: like out to get and now every day you're in 374 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: the same locker room, like rallying together to get a win. 375 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think we. 376 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 4: I think people do a good job kind of of 377 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: separating those like national allegiances when it comes to Frost play. 378 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 4: I know that we're all united in the same goal 379 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 4: of achieving the Walter Cup this year, and everyone's very 380 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 4: dedicated towards that. And then in the weeks we take off, 381 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: you know, we're then part of our national teams and 382 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 4: were competitors there. But then as soon as we're back 383 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: together again in the hotel, it's like nothing has changed. 384 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: It was cute were texting. There were a lot of 385 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: flight delays coming out and I wasn't traveling from Minnesota. 386 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 4: I had been in California because we had a few 387 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 4: days off, and they texted me to make sure that 388 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: my flight had made it out okay and that I 389 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 4: had made it on time, because they knew that a 390 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: lot of the players were getting delayed. So I think 391 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: they people are still really thoughtful and care deeply about 392 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 4: each other as individuals, which is really nice to see. 393 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: Even when you're the enemy, even when you're like, what 394 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: if you didn't make the game, that'd be cool too, 395 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: it'd be. 396 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: Easier, exactly exactly. 397 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: So, this is your first year in the PWTEL. You 398 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: were drafted third overall in June. How is it matched 399 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: or differed from your expectations? 400 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 401 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: I think I tried to not have too many expectations 402 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: going into the league. I knew I had taken a 403 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: year off. I tried to be kind on myself with 404 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 4: where I came back into the play. But the league has, 405 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: you know, far exceeded my expectations in terms of professionalism, 406 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: in terms of the competitiveness of the games. The fans 407 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 4: are way more than I could have ever hoped and 408 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: dreamed for. We were really lucky to participate in the 409 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: Takeover Tour in Denver, and it was a dream come 410 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: true playing in an almost sold out NHL building. We 411 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 4: got pretty close in Seattle a few years ago. But 412 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: it's been just a tremendous experience getting to be a 413 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: part of this league. It was everything I could have 414 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: ever dreamed for. It's been really special. 415 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: And you mentioned you had to offer yourself grace after 416 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: a year off, but you're doing pretty well. You've been 417 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: among the top point scorers in the PWHL all season 418 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: despite playing defense. Why do you think such immediate success 419 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: despite the break. 420 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: I think I was very fortunate to come into a 421 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: team with a lot of very skilled goal scorers. You'll 422 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: see my points are a little skewed. I have a 423 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 4: lot of assists in not very many goals, which. 424 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 3: Is how I tend to roll. 425 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: And I think just putting the puck on people's sticks 426 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: and letting them go to work has been the key 427 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 4: to my success, I guess. 428 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just I. 429 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: Think coming in the team is amazing. The girls work 430 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: so hard day in and day out, and I'm fortunate 431 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 4: to play with a lot of very talented people that 432 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: make my job really easy. 433 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 3: So it's been It's been fantastic so far. 434 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: Your teammate at Princeton and Team Canada, Sarah Filier described 435 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: your style of play to the Athletics Hailey Salvian as 436 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: quote a little reckless, but in the most poised way possible. 437 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: Would you say that's accurate? 438 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: Maybe? 439 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 4: I guess people I think I'm a little unpredictable sometimes 440 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 4: in my D zone, which I think people think is 441 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: maybe a little reckless, but I try to keep it 442 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: under control and make good defensive decisions in situations. And 443 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: I've been, you know, over the past few years, really 444 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: working harder to clean up my defensive game and be 445 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: a little more intentional about where. 446 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: I take risks and stuff. 447 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: But Sarah has been a fantastic friend and teammate for many, 448 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 4: many years, and so honestly, that's high praise coming from her. 449 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: Where does that style come from? 450 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: Like, in my brain, my assumption is that you're ten 451 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: steps ahead of everybody else because of that big old 452 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: brain of yours, and so sometimes people see it as reckless, 453 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: but you're actually seeing things that they're not seeing. Do 454 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: you think that's where the quote unquote recklessness comes from. 455 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: Potentially, I think some of it comes I came from 456 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 4: playing as a forward. I played forward until my last 457 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 4: two years of high school, and so I think that 458 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 4: some of the skills I developed as a forward in 459 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: ways to be people in one on one situations to 460 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: open up another play or not maybe the most conventional 461 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: things to do in the D zone because they're kind 462 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 4: of seen as higher risk, right plays like toe dragging 463 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: someone in your D zone is generally not what you. 464 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: Should be doing. 465 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 3: You should probably just move the puck to the wall. 466 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: And so I think that my tendencies to do some 467 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: of these higher risk moves, just from how I was 468 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 4: brought up, tend to happen without really thinking. I don't 469 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 4: really think that this is the best decision I have. 470 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: It's just what I do right, and usually. 471 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 4: It pans out. Yeah, it's just my instincts. I don't 472 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 4: really know what to do about it, but thankfully it 473 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 4: works out most of the time. I only do it 474 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 4: when I have to, I guess, or when I just 475 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: think I need to. 476 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: So, you know, why'd you make the switch to defense? 477 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: I just said it like a Canadian defense. 478 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: Sorry. 479 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was a kind of defensive minded center. I 480 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: was more of a playmaking center, and I was not 481 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I scored a fair amount, but I always 482 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 4: just felt very responsible and I enjoyed playing defense, and 483 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 4: my dad and my coach at the time thought that 484 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: my skill set and my tendencies would translate very well 485 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 4: into being. 486 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: An offensive defenseman, and that. 487 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: As you go up and up, the people that become 488 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: these responsible centers are actually people who were prolific goal 489 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 4: scorers in their younger days as well, and so we 490 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: just thought that my skill set would translate better to 491 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: being an offensive defenseman, which I guess they were right about, 492 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: but it was really my dad and my coach's idea 493 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: at the time. 494 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: Okay, we've been talking for like twenty four minutes. Your 495 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: humility is very appropriate for someone who wants to be 496 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: a doctor and help people, for someone who wants to 497 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: be on defense and be supportive for the team, less 498 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: of the glory, more of the the for. 499 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: The overall team. 500 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: And now I'm starting to wonder where does Claire become 501 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: raggedocious or swaggy in what part of your life are 502 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: you ever showing that side of yourself that's like, I'm 503 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: of gold medal winning doctor to be who's a pretty badass, 504 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, I. 505 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 3: Think that not many places. 506 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: I think. 507 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: I think sometimes I try to use my previous accomplishments 508 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 4: to prop up my confidence when I been making some 509 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 4: poor plays and I'm like, this isn't like you've done 510 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 4: a lot, You're still that person. You can be that 511 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 4: person like this was like one wrong decision, but nine 512 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: out of ten times that pays off. And I use 513 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: that to kind of keep myself going when I start 514 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 4: to feel like I'm you know, my confidence is starting 515 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: to get down. But I think that I know that 516 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: I am where I am because of the people in 517 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 4: my life, and I'm extremely fortunate to have been brought 518 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 4: up in the family that I was raised in and 519 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 4: to have the opportunities that I have had have just 520 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 4: been largely. 521 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: Circumstantial my family. 522 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: I was just at breakfast with my parents and we 523 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 4: were talking about how fortunate I was to be in 524 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: the places that I was as a minor hockey player 525 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 4: and have access to the you know, skills coaches. I 526 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: just got luck. I truly just got lucky that I 527 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 4: was in the right place at the right time, and 528 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: so I keep. 529 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: Trying to be in the right places at the right times. 530 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: But I know that I wouldn't be who I am 531 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: without the people around me, and so I just try 532 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 4: to remain very very grateful for all that I've been 533 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: given and all that I've had access to. 534 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: It's an incredible perspective to have at your age, and 535 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: it's so helpful to finding joy in life and being 536 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: grateful at all times. I think it's going to serve 537 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: you so well. Can you talk shit though? Do you 538 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: ever talk shit? 539 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: Maybe? Sometimes? 540 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 2: Let's hear it? Yeah, what's your go to? What's your 541 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: go to? Trash talk? 542 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: Oh? 543 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 4: I try not to trash talk on the ice. 544 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: I usually, I don't know. 545 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 4: Sometimes people say things to me and I'm just like, 546 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: I don't even know why you're saying that to me. 547 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: It really doesn't affect me. I don't know. 548 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 4: Sometimes I ask them how many shifts they've had this game. 549 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 4: If it's like someone who's pretty random, Oh, okay, there, 550 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 4: it is the meanest thing I'll say. 551 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: But if like, I'll never instigate. You know. 552 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 4: It's only if someone's like cross tracking me in front 553 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 4: of the net and I'm like, what are you doing 554 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: out here? Like you're just hurting me for no reason. 555 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: That's when I might say something. If they're yelling at 556 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 3: me too. 557 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Honestly, the most annoying thing for trash talkers is someone 558 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: who is unfazed and so you're winning. 559 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: You're winning. 560 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: If you're like, I don't even know why you're saying that, 561 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: it has no effect on me. 562 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 563 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Your teammates call you human chat GPT. When do they 564 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: most often call on you to like repeat something or 565 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: interpret something for them? 566 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sometimes when there's been like a long meeting 567 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 4: full of logistical stuff. We've had some recent like updates 568 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 4: to taxes and that sort of thing, and so they're like, Oh, Claire, like, 569 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 4: what's the what are the quick hits on on what's 570 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: going on? 571 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: Give us the bullet points exactly. 572 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 4: And so it's kind of in those situations that they 573 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: like to be like, oh, Claire, like, what are we 574 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: doing here? 575 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 3: But no, they're great, it's all in good fun. 576 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: It sounds like an excuse to just get you to 577 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: do their work for them and be the one who 578 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: has to listen carefully. 579 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 580 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe it's probably a medium for them for me 581 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 4: to summarize it, but. 582 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: I don't I don't mind. 583 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: I like to, you know, get my information straight from 584 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: the source and kind of do it myself. 585 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: So I don't have a screible memory, right, Your memory 586 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: is just insane? 587 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently it works. It works pretty well, I'll say. 588 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, final question for you. I was scrolling through 589 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: your Instagram and you look. 590 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: Like a travel influencer, like the just unbelievable trips and 591 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: adventures I mentioned sleeping in that pod that's like see through, 592 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: floating off the side of a mountain, like unbelievable. So 593 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: jealous of some of the adventures that you've had. What 594 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: was your favorite trip or maybe the wildest activity. 595 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: Sleeping in that pod, hanging off the side in Peru 596 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 4: that was that's probably up there. And then on that 597 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 4: same trip, we hiked the Salkin Tae Pass to Machu Pichu, 598 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 4: which was amazing. We grew up in glaciers and down 599 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: in rainforests. That was probably the most complete, amazing trip. 600 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 4: And then I was also in Thailand a few years 601 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: ago and that was really special. With the elephants down 602 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 4: on the beaches in the rainforests, it was really special. Yeah, 603 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: I would say probably the most complete trip Peru. But 604 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 4: my family we sail. We've been all over the world sailing, 605 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 4: and being on the boat with them is really really 606 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: special and really time I cherish. So I've been really 607 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 4: lucky to see a lot of not a lot of 608 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: the world, but some of the world to this point. 609 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 4: And I think that that's one of the things I 610 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: enjoy most is planning a really cool trip and doing 611 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 4: like amazing things that I would never have the chance 612 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: to do otherwise. That's something I like to do in 613 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: my free time and something I really look forward to 614 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 4: every off season. 615 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 616 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Well, honestly, it feels like you have it all figured out, Claire. 617 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: I'm super excited to see what's next for you. I 618 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: can't say I'll root for you in the Olympics, but 619 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: I will hope that you do your best and then 620 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: the USA wins, and excited to watch more of you 621 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: in the PWHL and just see, like what amazing things 622 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: you contribute to the world, because it feels like you're 623 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: destined to. 624 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate that. But go 625 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 3: Ken go. 626 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Claire for joining us. 627 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys, but after talking to her, 628 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I would definitely trust her as my surgeon. 629 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: An exceptional human. 630 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: We got to take another break when we come back. 631 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: Have I reevaluated my relationship to trash talking Welcome back slices. 632 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: We love that you're listening but we want you to 633 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: get in the game every day too, So here's our 634 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: good gameplay of the day. 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It's easy watch Claire's trash talking skills 645 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: rating one out of five. 646 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: There's not a mean bone in her body. Review what 647 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: a genuinely kind soul. 648 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, like really resonated, even though we did 649 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: the interview via computer. And for someone that young to 650 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: have like this self awareness that trash talk is kind 651 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: of more distraction than a tool that is really admirable. 652 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: Now does that mean I'm. 653 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: Gonna stop trash talking anytime soon? 654 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: Definitely not no, But I do love that Claire keeps 655 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: the main thing the main thing and does it her way. 656 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Kudos to her all of my enemies. Sorry, you're not 657 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,479 Speaker 1: off the hook. Now it's your turn, rate and review. 658 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, See you tomorrow. Good game, Claire, Good game, 659 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Team Canada. 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