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Speaker 1: This is the me Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless,

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Speaker 1: severely bug bitten, and in my case, underwearless because I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing my swim trunks from the jungles of Bolivia. And

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Speaker 1: we've been out in the jungle jungle for how long?

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Speaker 1: Eight days? Eight days? And we're back now, stranded in

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Speaker 1: just pass like a hundred miles of uninterrupted jungle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: probably a lot of like slash and burned eggs, so

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Speaker 1: much soul that the skies, you know, the low VI's

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Speaker 1: ability due to smoke. But then you eventually get out

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Speaker 1: of that just flower jungle and you laying here. There's

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Speaker 1: just a native community. The tribe is called Chimana chaman

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Speaker 1: a territory. And we've been up a river with a

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Speaker 1: bunch of Chimani guys hunting fishing. We've been up there

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Speaker 1: just getting some good stuff. Some bad stuff happened to us.

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Speaker 1: Now we're back here, stranded it's hot. No one's wearing

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Speaker 1: her clothes except Dorty, who's got his um one of

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Speaker 1: his dirty buys those t shirts of you ever been

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Speaker 1: like gas stations in Montana or places where they sell

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Speaker 1: those airbr or to be like a full moon and

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Speaker 1: like some wolves heads, or like well, this is what's

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Speaker 1: this question? This is a this is a winged Native

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Speaker 1: to say, Idaho, No, the horse isn't winged. It's not

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Speaker 1: oh no, but it's it's cloudy, and there's a horse

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Speaker 1: sort of racing. Then eagle with a winged um planes warrior.

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Speaker 1: This used to say, Ida, hope, I once buried, accidentally

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Speaker 1: buried this shirt in the on a beach on Lake Ponder.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'd hope for three months. I lost it

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Speaker 1: one night swimming and then came back three months later

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Speaker 1: and found it buried in the sec Did you go

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Speaker 1: digging quarter or no? No, that trip that you found it.

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Speaker 1: So we have a ton of ground to cover. We

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Speaker 1: gotta talk about getting bit by bullet ants. We gotta

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Speaker 1: talk about eating monkey meat, um the giant catfish called

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Speaker 1: the maturo. We gotta talk about eating unfathomable quantities of

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Speaker 1: dried salted meat, rotten sometimes sometimes rotten another. At first,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, who's here? Philbert Bearaboo out of

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Speaker 1: bows here? Friends call him Phil and he's a what

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Speaker 1: do you what do you like to go by? Cinematographer?

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Speaker 1: Philbert's a cinematographer. Um is it Phil? Look for real

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Speaker 1: or just Phil? Philip real? Philip there is a cinematographer

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Speaker 1: based out of Bosa, Montana. This is the first time

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Speaker 1: he ever came out with us. This whole reason we're here,

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Speaker 1: like why we're here is we were doing a mediator

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Speaker 1: episode and then Jannes would tell us, um, who is

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Speaker 1: no longer long tong Yanni. He's now Yanni Chimani based

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Speaker 1: on his ability to excel at jungle craft here in

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Speaker 1: Chamani territory particularly, he started out very strong shooting native bows.

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Speaker 1: These guys Chimani make their bows. Let's introduced everybody, and

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Speaker 1: then just get into it. Geez is here. That concludes

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Speaker 1: And of course Dan Dougherty's here. You need a producer,

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Speaker 1: director man all things and um and these those how

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Speaker 1: do I even start with talking about Chani Indians amer Indians.

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Speaker 1: It's like a term like you don't like a Canadian'd

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Speaker 1: In the US, we say Indian Native American. Sort of

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Speaker 1: the proper term down here is amer Indian. Is that

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Speaker 1: that amer Indian? Yeah? Really, yeah, I haven't heard that often.

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you hear? Indigenous indigenous? But

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Speaker 1: is Chermanic. Now my understanding is that they came up,

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Speaker 1: drawing means gold you all see him called golden drafto.

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Speaker 1: say about the fishing, Joanny? It was like fishing conditions

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Speaker 1: Warner Bruntler Sheer Forest tests. We'll say that for another podcast. Um,

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Speaker 1: a discount the future. No, no, it's not just cancel

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Speaker 1: of not only clear, but like crystal clear and blue turquoise,

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Speaker 1: the moment we witnessed numerous landslides that big ones, big

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Speaker 1: So to get to this place, what you do? You?

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Speaker 1: building one just for personal use, like family use. They

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Speaker 1: Very very long boats. Yeah, very narrow, very long boats.

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Speaker 1: up flipping them. We're these bigger ones. If you think

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Speaker 1: they're made that, I got a question for you. Think

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Speaker 1: the most boat you can get out of the tree man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's a practical thing. So if the

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Speaker 1: greater ballast. Maybe, I don't know. They answered that. That's

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Speaker 1: a good question. These boats are like you see some

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Speaker 1: ones we were in. We climbed into four boats that

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Speaker 1: up like a lawn chair in it. Put a ton

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Speaker 1: of weight. So we're running how many guys in the boat?

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Speaker 1: You know that many dudes plus very small amount of

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Speaker 1: can sharpen. That was really impressive to me. We could

426
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: have been out with these guys, you know, these other

427
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: like indigenous hunters in in Guyana, and they had they

428
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: probably started with the same set up. I imagine their

429
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 1: bowls are very similar. But they were running. They had

430
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: hog wires so like that heavy fencing, and they would

431
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: pound fish points out of hogwire and put a barb

432
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: in and with a file um. But you realize that

433
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: they their system was a little bit reliant on mammade

434
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: materials and these guys it's just not like all ship

435
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: from the jungle. Um. Same with the boats. So everybody's

436
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: get up. Like every dude that's got a bowl walks

437
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: around with his bowl and he's got four or five arrows,

438
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: two or three fish points. He's got a blunt tip

439
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: which is like before shaft that's thinner than the end

440
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: of a pool queue with a big wooden blunt. It

441
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: looks like something you use the like when you're when

442
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: you're making a mohedo, like that thing you use the mash.

443
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: The mint leaves up multa ahead and then a big

444
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: game point or a land animal point, which is a

445
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 1: big it looks like a spear point when you look

446
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: at it, it's actually bamboo and it's sharper ship and

447
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: you can shoot it and then shave off a little

448
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: bit and sharpen it and it's like a spear point,

449
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: no metal whatsoever. And his dude, I was asking him

450
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: how far how much penetration he gets on something like

451
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: a tape here and a tape here, like three pounds

452
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: thick skin. He said he'll get four or five inches

453
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: of penetration at that point. If you don't hit it

454
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: in the heart, you will not find it. So you

455
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: can image edge. The shotguns are pretty popular. When we

456
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: picked this Chimani Alberto up, he was packing. I bought

457
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: a both from him. He was packing another boat with

458
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: two fish arrows, and he brought a sixteen gage Russian

459
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: made shotgun. It looked like it was made eons ago.

460
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: The buck plates said Bocall like Lake Bacall and all

461
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 1: the shotguns that was made in Russian. I don't think

462
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: he even said sixteen engage on it. I didn't see it.

463
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 1: And he had a homemade strap made from some quicksilver

464
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: strap like the surf company. So you get there and

465
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: we're like he's like, We're like, what what do you

466
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: want to go hunt? And he wanted to go hunt

467
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: at five o'clock. So we messed around and get a

468
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: late start and me and Dane, don't you start following

469
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: this dude to Alberto and du Marco. Marcos got a bowl,

470
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: he's got his fish points. His spear point is our thing.

471
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: And we started walking. We don't get I don't know.

472
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: We didn't get very far into the jungle, maybe ten

473
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: minutes at the most. I'd said fifteen minutes. And there's

474
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: these little orange things on the ground that looked like

475
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: a you don't look like right, apricot, like dried apricot

476
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: quarters laying on the ground. And Marco turns to me

477
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: and I couldn't tell he's making a symbol to me.

478
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: We can't talk to these guys at all, right, it's

479
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: all just gestures with the word he could use a

480
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: little Spanish out. He turns me and makes a gesture

481
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: like I think he's making a gesture like a roma.

482
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: Like he's sort of running his hand up to his

483
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: nose as though he's like if you were trying to

484
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: cook something and bring the smell of what you're cooking

485
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: up to your nose. By now, think wafting, throw a

486
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: moving for him. And I'm thinking man stuff likes to

487
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: eat the fruit. And it was kind of a smear

488
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: on a leaf, like a ship like smear, and he

489
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: touched that and smelled it. And then they started looking

490
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: up in the tree and there is a monkey, a

491
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: red monkey, red howler monkey, a red howler monkey up

492
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: in the tree. And you feel like the monkey spooked

493
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, don't you you know what? Not? I mean,

494
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: it did, but slowly. I think right when we first

495
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: saw it, it it was just it was basically just sitting

496
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: right there, maybe fifteen yards up in the tree, and

497
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: it's slowly. Yeah, I know, I don't know how spooked

498
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: it was. Maybe it was spooked, but I didn't feel

499
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: like it was booking. I felt like it was just so,

500
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, ambling away. Maybe I don't know. I want

501
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: to say to man, these dudes are in tune. These

502
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: dudes I have lived kind of in the same place

503
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: their whole life are super intune what's going on. And

504
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: when you're on the jungle, if you're not, I haven't

505
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: spent much time to the jungle at all. It's bewildering

506
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: how much sound theer is. It's definite, there's all these

507
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: sounds going off. They don't give a ship about most

508
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: of sounds. Let me hear one sound like this, and

509
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: they really interested. Man, even though it's like a hundred

510
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: yards away, they got like what was that? They're like

511
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: that fruit and it's sure if they look on the

512
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: train here. This is how a monkey is. How a

513
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: monkey starts kind of leaving the area. And to do

514
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: with the shotgun goes after it. I live. Nobody tells

515
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: what happens next. Well, it's too disturbed. It's too disturbing

516
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: you to talk about. I didn't actually find that disturbing.

517
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: So we saw the monkey, and all my first thoughts

518
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: obviously we have to turn around looking lightly whole. Look

519
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: at that thing, look at that Describe that somebody, you

520
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: only describe that picture. We've been watching it for probably

521
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: three hours and it's been just constantly this evolving giant

522
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: thunderhead off in the distance. When're very flat country, so

523
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: it's a very big sky and off in the distance

524
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: there's a giant thunderhead that takes up probably the skyline.

525
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: And you know, it looks like as if you had

526
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: a veil, like a veil and behind it were shooting

527
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: off flash bulbs. That's incredible. That's probably why we're here.

528
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: That's probably the storm like that. Yeah, but the lightning

529
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: is almost constant. It's just it's just moving through this

530
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: giant thunderhead illuminating different sections of it. And there's still

531
00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: pieces of sun illuminating. Like that cloud in the movie Ghostbusters.

532
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: It looks like that big dark solo cloud comes in

533
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: and get some hardcore jungle ship out here. So anyways,

534
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: here's his monks, there's there's a monkey, here's a shotgun,

535
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: and um so I have all my thinking about it.

536
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: First of all, I just getting one clean shot of

537
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: that monkey in the tree, which I was able to

538
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: get several, So it wasn't booking. It was there, it

539
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: was red. It was obviously a howler monkey. I would

540
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: say it was aware of us. Yeah, no, it wasn't.

541
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't you thought it was probably best to take off. Yeah.

542
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't making noise though, and it wasn't moving especially fast,

543
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: because I think probably within thirty seconds. It was thirty

544
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: seconds i'd say, from when we saw it and until

545
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: the shot happened, and enough tree he moved one tree

546
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: over and came down closer to us. So now a

547
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: howler monkey, I think if you were standing up in

548
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: a holler. Monkey stood out, He's not gonna reach your

549
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: waist close. I don't think like just above knee hid

550
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: maybe yeah, off his head if you're standing next to

551
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you long tail and yeah, so what I think They

552
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: looked to Steve first to see if he shoot it.

553
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Steve did not want to shoot the monkey, but Steve

554
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: quickly said shoot it. Uh yeah. I had a bowl

555
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: with me. I had a compound bow I brought down.

556
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was going to use the thing,

557
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: but I feel like it helps sort of in a

558
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: communication way, you know, like fellow hunters kind of stuff. Um,

559
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: but there's no way I went down like I'm not gonna,

560
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: like I vowed long time ago to not hurt monkeys.

561
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: It's like where I drawline. But Albert Tilda Chimani hunter

562
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: has no problem hurting monkeys, and in fact, he loves

563
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: to eat monkeys, and they all do. It's one of

564
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: their favorite their favorite food. It seemed to me was

565
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: was the was the small the spider monkey which they

566
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: called Marie Mono. This one they called man, which is

567
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: that red holler? And I mean it was just you know,

568
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: like I have now filmed probably I don't know, fifty

569
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: animals getting killed. And it was simple was there was

570
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: a monkey in the tree and there was a shot

571
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: and it took probably ten seconds. I feel like maybe

572
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: it was clinging on or something, or what happened? What happened?

573
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: What do you mean what first fell out of the tree.

574
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. You saw that? Yeah, I saw it. Well,

575
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: the monkey gets hit was just like hitting squirrel up

576
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: and tree with the shotgun, where you know he's gonna

577
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: come down, but you're not correct your win, like he's

578
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: still kind of hanging on and out jeez man, bats,

579
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: lightning boats, lightning bolt. Out comes a baby monkey. There's

580
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: riding on the monkey. The baby monkey falls hangs up

581
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: in the brush. You saw that first, you said that

582
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: come down. I saw the monkey. I saw the baby

583
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: monkey come right out of the monkey. Oh shout. I

584
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: didn't see that. It was packing around a little baby.

585
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: There's a happy ending to this. But the baby monkey

586
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: falls down on the tree. Then the big monkey comes

587
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: down on a tree and then it kind of howled

588
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: like a holler monkey a little bit. So these guys

589
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: are too can think about that, and they pick up

590
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: the big monkey, pick up the baby monkey, come up,

591
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: have a smoke pack some coca leaves and then cut

592
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: the bottom of the tail off, which I missed on camera.

593
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I didn't see it. That's those dude, Alberto. They're smoking.

594
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: And these guys are into their substances, man, from everything

595
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: I saw, they like alcohol, are like cigarettes and they

596
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: chew cocles and cokeleans or what. I developed quite a

597
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: findess for it too, just has a physical act or anything.

598
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: But they Coca's cocaine like coca cocaine comes from a

599
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: coca leaf, but it's like a chemical process I gather

600
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: to make cocaine out of it. But it's legal down

601
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: here to have coca leaves and the chimane and Doty

602
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: says all over South America like working class people Native

603
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: people just packed their gum full of coca leaves. It's

604
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: just miless, not just gum though. Cheek it's not gum

605
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: like chewing tobacco in the States. It's like it's like

606
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: a giant and they call it a bull because it's

607
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: a ball they form. It looks like a Q ball

608
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: in your cheek definitely in numbs your tooth, numbs your

609
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: cheek and numbs your tooth but I couldn't really tell

610
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: what it does. You really didn't feel anything. I couldn't.

611
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: It's it's not more than having like an espresso. No,

612
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: definitely not. I'd say even a little smoother than that.

613
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: But you're missing that. The other important part is that

614
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: they activate the alkaloids in it by baking soda. So

615
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: a very basic substance, or yes, basic substance you take.

616
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: You take baking soda, dip your finger in it, and

617
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: then you kind of rub it on the inside of

618
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: the bolo, and that taste good rising. I was scared

619
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: of that ship first. Toward the end, I was packing

620
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: at least these guys running racquetball. I was running a

621
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: golf ball with bacon sold it. And they also drink

622
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: alcohol activit. So for out with these dudes. Alberto Barco

623
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: interrupt this monkey thing for minute. I think they got

624
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: one water bottle. I'm just pouring sweat, don't he sweat

625
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: and so bad? He thought something was wrong. It was up. God,

626
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: he's dying. It's that. No, I'm sweating too like that. Meanwhile,

627
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm just drinking water. I drink all my water within

628
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the hour. And these guys got one little sixteen ounce

629
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: bottle to look like it's been like washed up on

630
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: the beach, you know, and it's full of what I

631
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: think is water, And every time they stop they swap

632
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: a swig and all that. I'm thinking, Man, these guys

633
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: don't drink any water. Oh, they're just like barely going

634
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: through this one bottle. And I realized it's this stuff

635
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: that's like taste. What is it. It's called sing ghana.

636
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: It's a great if we're drinking it right now. Liquor

637
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: man out of grapes. It's kind of like a very

638
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: strong cropper in Italy. But but they like it too

639
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: because it releases more of the alkaloids from the coca leaves. Anyways,

640
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: they shoot the monkey, have a smoke, have some more

641
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: coca leaves, have some alcohol. Then Marco walks over to

642
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: a tree and cuts a fong like cuts a string

643
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: of tree bark, ties it around the monkey's chest right

644
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: below his arms. And his monkey you're used to animals

645
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: to have six or eight teats. This monkey is nursing.

646
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: And this monkey has two tits right where humans tits are,

647
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: and it looked like humans tips, and it has a

648
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: humans vagina. Wraps the string around his armpits, wraps string

649
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 1: around his waist and runs like across his shoulders. Takes

650
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: a little extra string to tie the baby on there,

651
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: and we had offered the jump. I think it's worth

652
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: mentioning that old tail thing, well, the detail thing, and

653
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: just like there was a moment more than a moment

654
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: of sort of shock and sort of you know, not

655
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: not that I was shocked by it, That's what I mean.

656
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: You were shocked by No, I was shocked by I

657
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: don't mean to sound I don't mean to sound casual

658
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: about it. I had gone and the question. I have

659
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 1: held to dinner with some friends a couple of nights

660
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: before leaving, and we were talking about the trip, and

661
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: I was saying, I understand these boys love spider monkeys,

662
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: and I said, I will not shoot a monkey like

663
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't watch. I would rather shoot a person than

664
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: a monkey, because I just like, uh, they're just like

665
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: in the words of Jerry Clower, they're too much like folks.

666
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: And to see that monkey get shot now that but

667
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: the way he was carrying around his baby, and also

668
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: that it had breast, human breast and the human vagina

669
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: and a semi human face disturbed me. I later ate

670
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: the monkey some of it, but it disturbed me no end,

671
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 1: and I was a little rattled by it. But then

672
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like, who's the I'm not gonna tell these guys

673
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 1: what is your favorite food? Yeah, thats to to elaborate

674
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: on them. Not only is their favorite like they it

675
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: is a delicacy. They like it better than deer. They

676
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: like it better than poka. It is, it is better

677
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: than beef. They than times to have it translated, what's

678
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: the best food? What's your favorite food? Is the monkeys?

679
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: Spider monkey, howid monkey? Because it has more taste, That's

680
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: what that's That's what was translated back to us. Is

681
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: because it tasted like flavor or some more like there

682
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: there was something to it. And the cool thing is

683
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: this guy Alberto, like he pulls out These guys all

684
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: carry a little kitchen knives. But if you're gonna have

685
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: a kid draw like the classic kitchen knife, that's what

686
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: they all carry a lot of carbon steel. They'll have

687
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: it from a pairing knife side or whatever. No, she's

688
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: the has like put the knife in their bag, pulls

689
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: off this little pairing knife and cuts an inch of

690
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: the monkey's tail off and buries it and I thought.

691
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: I thought it was an offering, which is an outlandish

692
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: I think because they later explained us we would have

693
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: had a better trip had we given more offerings of alcohol, cigarettes,

694
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: and coca leaves to the river, we would have had

695
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: a better trip. So he buries the monkey's tail. Later

696
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: we find out you bury the monkey's tail. You cut

697
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: the monkey's tail off so that the next monkey you

698
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: kill doesn't get hung up by his tail in the tree,

699
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: which is good, which makes me think American squirrel hunters

700
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: should cut the front feet off. And Janice came up

701
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: with this idea, tell me you're gonna do the next

702
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: time to kill it? Lt you re remember saying this,

703
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: put the grass in their mouth. No, no, he was

704
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: gonna splatter the blood over the place. So and let

705
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: me take off into the jungle. And I don't think

706
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: anything more happening, No, not like a note. But I

707
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: think I think after that I probably had my favorite

708
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: moment in meat eater filming history, which was sitting in

709
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: the pitch dark with those two guys on the top

710
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: of the hill in the jungle, just like I'm wondering

711
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: what the fund is going on? You know? Just it

712
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: was that was my favorite. You were just listening to

713
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: him talk no, well that yet sitting in the dark,

714
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: that is sitting in the dark, here in the noises

715
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: of the jungle, and here in the noise of the hunters,

716
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: and just like just really soaking in that moment, because

717
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: that's not something you get to do, you know, no

718
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: matter what. I've been in the jungle a bunch of times,

719
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: but being with those guys in an actual, very authentic,

720
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, looking for game all, it was pretty pretty fantastic.

721
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. It's scary too, you know, it's

722
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: just an edge of like you don't know what you're

723
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: standing on. You don't know what's going on. You've got

724
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: all these thoughts of spiders and snakes and all this ship,

725
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: but you're just sitting right on the ground of the

726
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: jungle like it is. It's a little bit. Yeah, it's

727
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: a little bit scary, but also beautiful. And it's like

728
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: because you can't tell what the SMANI are saying, Yeah,

729
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: they could be like telling a story. Like anyway, So

730
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: I went down and I went back to Verizon, and

731
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: they told me that the phone got wet. I mean,

732
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe they're talking about something like that. But like you want,

733
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: it feels like they're talking about something different and the

734
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: language is like who who here and this is not

735
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: this has comes from a place of love. Who he

736
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: would like to mimic the sound of m the sani talking,

737
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of yeah, but not goofing on it. I

738
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: mean it really is like born really, like I later said,

739
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: it's like the words fall to the jungle floor. Yeah,

740
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you know you when you're all the woods, you hear

741
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: some dudes talking and laughing and ship you would not

742
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: ever in a million years be all the woods and

743
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: hear some chimani to do his way off very They

744
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: don't like talk loud by the river when they're fishing.

745
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: It's very guttural. There's like because they could be talking

746
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: about the most banal stuff, but it feels like they're

747
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: talking about some ancestral hunting business. I got the sense

748
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: that they were just saying super simple things too. I

749
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: mean that I had no idea if that's true enough.

750
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: But they'll stop a gesture about trees and stuff a lot,

751
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, and not carrying out a conversation, but just

752
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: like you know, sharing information, and then they would use

753
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: their flashlights now and then. But now when they stop

754
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: and just like just like listen and yeah, and the

755
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: jungle is deafening. Man. Yeah, it's worth to mention again

756
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: the volume of the jungle at night is just it's

757
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: mind bottling. I was very on edge and night that

758
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: I spent, you know, filming you guys hunting. It was like,

759
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: you're on the trail, it's daylight. It's like, all right,

760
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: it's woods. You're just in the familiar woods. Doesn't matter

761
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: if it's Montana, and believe it, you're in the woods.

762
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: These are woods. And then it got dark and every

763
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: time I stepped six inches off that trail, man, it's

764
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: just like my adrenaline just put up just a little bit.

765
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: Just you don't know, do you think there's any place

766
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: in the United States that has as loud of a

767
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: of a night of woods, like down south or anything.

768
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: And there's got to be around Florida or something that

769
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, Possibly it's loud, but it can't be

770
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: like this. I've been around, I've been you know, I mean,

771
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: just sound like a blar. I mean, I've been to

772
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: a ton of places not never thought that this place

773
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 1: is loud. And the next night here right now, Yeah,

774
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: the next night we go out. Nothing of note really

775
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: happened during the day. Nothing happened that day, no fish

776
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: or car. The next night we go out and on

777
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: the else, say, when you're walking on the trail, they're

778
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: always kind of looking off your best interest. And there's

779
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: so many things out there. They're gonna mess you up

780
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: because some snake. Did you ever catch what that snake was? Look, No,

781
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. I thought that it

782
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: might have been the bushmaster, but I don't believe. So

783
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: it's a little green, skinny green snake. Is it is

784
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: the worst guy, the most dangerous thing out there. There's

785
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: some spiders that will mess you up good. And there's

786
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: this little critter called the bullet ant. It's like kind

787
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: of inch and a half long. So we get to

788
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: talking about how we're gonna go out and sit a

789
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: salt lick at night with flashlights, and we leave before

790
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: dark again and start walking through the jungle, and nothing

791
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: really happened. No, No No, don't know what am I saying? No,

792
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: that got after a bird. I missed the bird a

793
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: couple of times with my bowl. Marco missed with his bowl.

794
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: Barrett'll shot at with a shotgun and missed it. But

795
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: it's this small bird, a gwan they really wanted. They

796
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: call a lot of birds pavlo, which is Spanish for turkey.

797
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: That's sort of like they know the names of them absolutely,

798
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: but they refer to him generally the same when you

799
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: might say game bird. I guess you think, yeah, yeah,

800
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: maybe like yeah, you use like the word grouse, right,

801
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: and there's obviously a bunch of species of grouse. They

802
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: use pava and it's like bird that is good to eat,

803
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: and all of these pava there could be any number

804
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: of birds, black and crests, curras out and the guans anymore. Yeah,

805
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't know anymore, but it's a couple of guanas.

806
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 1: We could after one of those beautiful bird. They wanted

807
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: it real bad. Um that turns up nothing and through

808
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Chase's bird we kind of wind up. I kind of

809
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: do you think we ever got this? This night? The

810
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: first thing I went out as being dot and then

811
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: the next night we go out it's me and Phil

812
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Barab Do you do you feel like we got to

813
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: the salt like you have no idea what's going on

814
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: because you can't communicate with the duzy with it seemed

815
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: like we were because he broke branches. We got to

816
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: this little creek bed, like small creek bed, and he

817
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: broke branches like a shooting lane. Yeah, that's the set up.

818
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: And then they both came up. We've found a log,

819
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: and we sat on the log like you would wait

820
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: for any other kind of hunt. That's what I felt like.

821
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I felt like, oh, he's clear a little shooting lane,

822
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: and we kind of get away and we got flashlace.

823
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: But it's still daylight out, just getting dark. And the

824
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: night before I noticed every time we stepped over a log,

825
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: they would examine the log and then take the bow

826
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: tip and kill these big asked ants on the log.

827
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: And I got the sense, I mean, everything moves, that

828
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: everything's alive. Is you never run out of new kinds

829
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: of books. I got the sense that they don't like

830
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: that kind of ant um. And we're sitting there and

831
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: I think it was just because I just turned my

832
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: light on. Maybe I can't even also realized just six

833
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 1: of these big gass ants were around us. And you

834
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: got it first, Yeah, I got it. It was on

835
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: my shirt. Well, I was worried because we were sitting

836
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: there and I was worried they climbed up under my

837
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: shirt and so just as I went to look, it

838
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: stung me right on the basically first knuckle, my first finger,

839
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: and I probably screamed a little bit and it on

840
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: like a bit, and it basically it was like it

841
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: was a bad beasting. But I didn't know what to think. Initially, Yeah,

842
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: in initially in the same times, No, it wasn't like crazy,

843
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: not like a honey bee, but like a hornet, you know,

844
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: like a bad beast thing where you're like, yeah, you

845
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: would have thought it was a horn for five minutes beyond,

846
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: like you can't even say it's smart. It's worse than

847
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: it's smart. So no, it's like it's you don't think

848
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: about something else. You would be like, you're like, what

849
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: something is still on the beat on the neck by

850
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: be last night, I would have reacted about the same

851
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: way in the first five minutes of a bullet ant. Yeah,

852
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: but those bees were like a tenth of when you say,

853
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying the initial z initial zap was

854
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: be like it quickly becomes a thing like a but

855
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: it's the initial zap is be like, but before you

856
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: go into years, how you know, so as a cameraman.

857
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: I got stung. I knew Patrick, who was one of

858
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: the guys here, had had kind of mentioned everything that

859
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: bites and stings and you know, and I remember him

860
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: saying bullet and and I didn't know if it was

861
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: bad or if it was just like a b sting

862
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. And so they're asking me, are you okay?

863
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, it hurts, but I gotta keep shooting.

864
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: We're here, okay, we can't. They're gesturings, are you okay? Yeah,

865
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just like whatever, I'm gonna roll with it

866
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: because we're out here on and we gotta do this.

867
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: So and then all of a sudden, you yell out, yell. Well,

868
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: he got this point and said let's go. So we

869
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: there was enough bullet as here. We have abandoned the

870
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: plan to hunt the lick. So they were aware of

871
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: the bullets. Yeah, they are funny that we guessed on aiden. No,

872
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: they were were the bullets when I turned my light on.

873
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: I have to turn light on, and was like wow.

874
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: After you both got yeah, Phil get zapped, They're like,

875
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: let's go, We'll start walking and I get zapped on

876
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: the ankle through a neoprene sock. Jeez, and then um,

877
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: I don't like I have a very low tolerance for pain,

878
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: and we may get out to the trail and he

879
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I was like, I

880
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: got hit by a lionfish one time and I hadn't

881
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: read up on it. So it's like you're you get

882
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: hit and you're like why. I know that it hurts

883
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: and I can handle all that, but I don't know

884
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: what this means for me? Right? Is it like getting

885
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: bit by a rattlesnake? Like do you go to the doctor? Now?

886
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: Is the trip over now? And the guy Marco gestures

887
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: to fill explain the gesture he lives at me. So

888
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: Steve got stung in the ankle. I got stung in

889
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: the knuckle. So he first looks at me, points to

890
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: where I got stung on his hand and gestures up

891
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: his hand, up his arm too, to his heart, saying, basically,

892
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: this poison is going to go to your heart. You

893
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: want to he wants like a line like like like

894
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: scruciatingly slowly this line up your arm to your heart.

895
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: And we're like, I don't really follow what exactly that means.

896
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: And then they go to Steve and do the same

897
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: exact thing from his ankle, but it basically and that

898
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: his Balza like yeah, he's like, he's like points of film,

899
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: does it? They'll go to his heart and likes me

900
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: to Balzac. They're like, so does that mean we dine? Now?

901
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. These eyes both looking at us with

902
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: they start looking around in the trees and come back

903
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: with a four inch chunk of vine. In the vine

904
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: when he cut open, resembles almost like ginger root exactly,

905
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: and he takes his knife and starts scraping and pulping

906
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: the contents of the vine and packing it on our bites.

907
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: And then he kind of says like bomb oh, like

908
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, time to go with it, like let's go,

909
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: time to go in points that we either go back

910
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: to our camper, go deeper into the jungle. And at

911
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: that point realized that we were going to die, because

912
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: he was like, pick whichever one you want. We still

913
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: have no idea what this matter? What? And now it's

914
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: like intense arthritic joint paint. Would you say, burning and throbbing?

915
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: I gotta say something here because like you also called

916
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: back on the radio as we had ready was an

917
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: hour later, what was it really? Alright? I don't even

918
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: know why we didn't think about it, and I didn't

919
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: realize we had the radio still way later, but that

920
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: was the moment that I realized you were from the

921
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: Midwest film because because he kind of got like the

922
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: radio call and you go like, um you copy of

923
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: copy go yep. You go like, oh, hey, just checking in.

924
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: How you guys do. I'm like, oh, we're good. What's

925
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: going on? You know, we weren't our into it, and

926
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: at that point it wasn't it was way beyond like

927
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't intensifying a definitely, it was just like you

928
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,479
Speaker 1: know what we called. I was thinking, there's no way

929
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: I can sleep with this level of paint. That was

930
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: where I was at at that point, and Marco and

931
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: Alberta had lost all interest in our bites. We somehow

932
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: wound up way hass back in the jungle on the

933
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: edge of the river, laying there on these huge boulders,

934
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: these huge boulders on this river. We shine for some

935
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: fish and then we're all laying out on these rocks. Actually,

936
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: and before that, you gotta mention the Bene drill. Oh,

937
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: so we took eye profit at ben and drill, which

938
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: knocked our dicks in the dirt man, but couldn't even

939
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: stay away around the jungle Middle Night, couldn't stay away,

940
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: go down the river, and then Middle we arrive at

941
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: the edge of the river. A barrel shines light the

942
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: river and I'm nothing. There's a fish's tail at the surf.

943
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: You can't see three inches in the water, but there's

944
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: a fish's tail. So Marco Real quick loads bowl the

945
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: fish are will pull back. The fishtail vanishes, and then

946
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: it decided that we will now lay on the river

947
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: bank on the rocks in the dark for an hour,

948
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: at which point and smoke cigarettes from the cook leaves,

949
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: at which point I'm like, there's no way i can

950
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: sleep with this level of pain. And I'm really sleeping

951
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: from taking the ben and drill, and I remember that

952
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: we had a CB and or a radio and there's

953
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: no way they'll hear. It's like, there's no way we

954
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: can communicate with yeah, but straight there because loud and

955
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 1: clear um. It's conveyed to us that it just hurts

956
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: like a bitch, then goes away. And shortly after it

957
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: went away the pain. When we got back that night

958
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: at we got stung red. At dusk, I couldn't remember

959
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: which foot got hit, like gone the bot in you

960
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: still have your BikeE though, phill right, you see a

961
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: little bit, but not that. It was never explained to

962
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: us what he meant with the ominous hand gesture up

963
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: the arm and leg, which almost made me puke. When

964
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: then Phil got nauseous and he couldn't tell nashes from

965
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: the news or nashes from dying. Must have been the news,

966
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: because he's here with us now. I can't quite tell

967
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: now if I'm jealous, I think I know I am.

968
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: I can't tell I am jealous. I'm jealous of you guys.

969
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: There's I was on a riverond Peru once and the

970
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: tribe that that was there the right of passage for

971
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: their kids. Like when when a boy's fifteen or sixteen,

972
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: they they like build a pillowcase and they put like

973
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: seven or eight bullet has in it, and then they

974
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: tie the pillowcase around his floe arm for an hour.

975
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he gets bit like hit multiple times

976
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: for an hour, and that's their right of passage into manhood,

977
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: one of the rights of passage. I'll do it, yah,

978
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: Doty's got more. Jill will experience the more sort of

979
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: like indigenous. Uh, you know a little bit not time.

980
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: I've spent some time in Ecuador and Proof doing some stuff,

981
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: but I recalled the number of days I spent in

982
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: the jungle on the hands and toes. I mean legit jungle,

983
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: you know, like real legit jungle. It's scary. The third

984
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: night we went out, I'm skipping all the fishing parts,

985
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: but the third night we go all. We started out

986
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: at the all the day we started our way ass

987
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: out and jumps. We're going off the fish all day

988
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 1: and we got a couple of big gass calfish materiro

989
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: or toro called a dorato um. And it's just getting

990
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: dark one it's time to go back. And Janice and

991
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: I we were the whole day and crew they're like,

992
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: all eight of us are out there. But we decided

993
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 1: to like get to be the first guys down the trail.

994
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Everybody else will follow later. And we started down on

995
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: trail and right off the bat again. Bam, monkeys. They

996
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have cared less about these monkeys. Yeah, they were

997
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: a different species. I don't even know if we clarify

998
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: what they capucineah. We didn't learn from them what it was.

999
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 1: But They're like, well, there's a monkey by the way.

1000
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking what you boys shirt, Oh, we gotta back

1001
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: up before the bullet ant thing. The night we get

1002
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: back with the MoMA monkey and the baby monkey, or like,

1003
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: way down the monkey. We want to film cooking the monkey.

1004
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: They go down the river. We're like, you can go

1005
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: ahead and gut it, So go down the river. They

1006
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: go down the river, and they got the monkey and

1007
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: pull out the kidney's heart and liver and intestines and

1008
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: flush the intestines tournaments side out, put them on a stick,

1009
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: and they asked if they eat the baby monkey. And

1010
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: this baby monkey isn't as long and I'm looking right

1011
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: now at a water bottom. If you stretch this monkey out,

1012
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: he's not as long as the water bottle, say a

1013
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: little kitten a kid. They take them onto the baby monkey,

1014
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: burn his hair off real quick, cut him into They

1015
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: basically had him in quarter room and freed him in

1016
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: a walk little arms head, it's a feat. Look what

1017
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: it's They fried him up in a walk him. It

1018
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: was disturbing. Yeah, out sugarcoated for wet head rig For Westerners,

1019
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: it is a very very shocking picture. You know, we

1020
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: are just not accustomed to anything like that. It's it's shocking,

1021
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: it's disturbing, it's but to them, they were so excited,

1022
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: so stoked, and they fried the baby in oil. The

1023
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 1: next day were cooking the whole monkey. They take the monkey,

1024
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: holding by the tail, waved over the fire and burn

1025
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: all the hair off the monkey, and they scrape with

1026
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: the machete. Then you go down the river and clean

1027
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: the monkey. Then he kind of cuts all the joints

1028
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: just enough where he can break the joints so open,

1029
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: like you're opened up what would be like your ball

1030
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: joints at the top of your femur. Cut the knee

1031
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: joints a little bit, cut the elbow joints a little bit,

1032
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: took some vines. They use barker behind for which to

1033
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: bind the monkey. Trust it. He trust the monkey with

1034
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: either bark or mind. Yeah, I think he would use

1035
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: bark cut mortals, ropes from the bar and trust the monkey.

1036
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: And then they build a rack up over the fire.

1037
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: You know, they always stay at their logs perpendicular like

1038
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: their fires. They like lay the logs b I'm sorry

1039
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: not don't they always stack the would there's lay a

1040
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 1: bunch of big logs parallel on the fire. They gotta

1041
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: rack over it, trust the monkey, and then said he's

1042
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: gonna smoke that monkey eight hours, six hours. Smoked the

1043
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: monkey for six hours, then just chopped up the little

1044
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: pieces and they made monkey soup thicken some water, monkey

1045
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: and plantain. Both the plantaine they like, scraped with a spoon,

1046
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: green green plantain scraped real fine, and then it so

1047
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: it became more like a meal because they became kind

1048
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: of a thickening agent or a grave deal. It has

1049
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: been almost like monkey and corn meal, corn mash and grits, right,

1050
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: but made out of plantain skin on it. And it

1051
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: tasted like I struggle. I couldn't think of would taste

1052
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: like now, if I had to say, it tastes like

1053
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: something to tastes like a smoke turkey drumstick with a

1054
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: very thick skin. These boys eat everything they couldn't get

1055
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: through the skin. I didn't see anybody tried to eat

1056
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: the skin. You make a football out of that monkey skin.

1057
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: There's no meat anywhere. I mean, just meat, but it's

1058
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: thin pieces of meat, whatever piece I gotta have, like,

1059
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: I got a good like mouth full of of flesh

1060
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: when I took him. But I don't know what it was.

1061
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling what it was, good man. It was very

1062
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: mild that it was alarmed. Say threw the brain and

1063
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: the spinal column in there. And you always hear about

1064
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: diseases that may jump from monkeys, but I think mostly

1065
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: that happens in Africa. That's just a general thing. I

1066
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: think that you're you're you're warranted to not eat much

1067
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: spinal column, fluid or brain, so that I wasn't. I

1068
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: still am a little alarmed, but I was alarmed by

1069
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: the monkey. But I'll tell you what. The monkey was

1070
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: legitimately good. And it didn't taste like and you can

1071
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: see why people like is it doesn't taste like anything.

1072
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it tastes good, but it's not. You don't

1073
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: eat it and think it's like, I know these guys

1074
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: are laughing at me. I'm like, now, if I've never

1075
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: served monkey in secret, i'd be like, that's monkey. I

1076
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: feel like I gotta that. I know now, like what

1077
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: monkey tastes like. They're like the brain out of there,

1078
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 1: they eat the head. There was there's a for me,

1079
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: a lesson. They're just in general about being a meat hunter,

1080
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, and some out you know, the perspective of

1081
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: seeing these guys doing what they normally do and just

1082
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: comparing it to us killing a deer in Minnesota or

1083
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: in Montana. It was. It was an high opening experience

1084
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: just to just to eat it and know that it

1085
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: was not any different than anything that we ever do themselves. No,

1086
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: there was no like you well, all seventeen guys lined

1087
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: up to get monkey, and they were lining up like

1088
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you had a bunch of

1089
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 1: dudes you hang out with over your house and you

1090
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: made chili and you're like, chili's ready, and everybody came

1091
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: to get some chili. It was just like that. It

1092
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh man, we're weird ship now. It was like, awesome, man,

1093
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: he made chili. Chili is so good. The difference things

1094
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 1: we had to be strict about them not eating it

1095
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: before we were like, they wanted to eat it that

1096
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: first night, Yeah, they almost did. We had to basically

1097
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: protect this monkey so we could film them. You doing

1098
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: the chili thing. I don't mean like um like it

1099
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: was blase. I mean like you're hungry, your buddy made

1100
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: a great chili. I mean like excited, but not like

1101
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: who you know, Yeah, I feel like it was more

1102
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: like if you were serving up tenureline. There was that

1103
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: kind of excitement. Yeah. Probably I was just saying chili

1104
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: markssthing you laid all out. Yeah, Marco he is he

1105
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: uses a banana leaf of plantain leaf to make a spoon. Man,

1106
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: I feel like there that get more credit. We need

1107
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: to like build him up a little bit. Marco was like, yeah,

1108
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: you're hearing his story though the deer throwing that thing,

1109
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: I can't out. But yeah, so third night out, Marco

1110
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: is like Marco kind merged as he looks older, but

1111
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: he's my age one year older. He's forty one, you know,

1112
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: but it looks like a solid fifty one, maybe even

1113
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: very hard hunter, whether you know, dark skin, traditional haircut.

1114
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: Later told us that later we're kind of the story

1115
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: that was about a jaguar he killed. Only one prided

1116
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: did he bring this up? But a jaguar he killed

1117
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: that He has some hunting dogs and he was out

1118
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: hunting one night and a jaguar killed his dog and

1119
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: he killed the jaguar. And it was a pretty fascinating

1120
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: story if you'd go to the meat eater dot Com

1121
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: were posting that interview, and we went to the interview

1122
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: on the show with someone, Yeah, I think we should will.

1123
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: So he was only monkey and training. They could give

1124
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: a ship about this monkey and that kind of like

1125
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're looking at me, and I'm like, well

1126
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 1: shoot the monkeys. I make the universe like pow pow noise,

1127
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: and he kind of didn't care. One of the margaret

1128
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: grabs the shotgun goes off in that direction and uh

1129
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: he said he had a shot. Oh yeah, I followed him.

1130
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: We could see the monkey jumping up through the tree branches.

1131
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: You could see like a full sillo again you know,

1132
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: nighttime you can, but against the sky still had just

1133
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: enough light we could see the full silhouette of the monkey.

1134
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: He points at it, kind of gets his light like

1135
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, positions with the gun pointed at it, and

1136
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: then just was like let's go. You know, they didn't

1137
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: want that kind of monkey. We go down the trail

1138
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: a little bit and Marco's walking point with the shotgun.

1139
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: Albert is behind him with the bow. I'm behind Alberto

1140
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: with a bow, and Est is behind you the camera

1141
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you'll see him. They get

1142
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 1: tuned in and he knows something's going on, and all

1143
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Marko's got his light, his flashlight and

1144
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 1: his shotgun. Alberto stops and Marco kind of goes ahead

1145
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: and tell that he's gonna shoot, and I am, you know,

1146
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: with the six he engaged, and again it's amazing because

1147
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: there's no way that I knew that we had any

1148
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: idea ship. He shoots and it's like he hit Godzilla.

1149
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: The I thought it was the tape here something big.

1150
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sound like a horse couldn't running though

1151
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,919
Speaker 1: the jongle with that. Mom I'm like, holy, I didn't

1152
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen. But what happened was he

1153
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: hit a red brocket deer, but he's too far out

1154
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: front and just hit at the tip of his nose

1155
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: and buckshot, so his nose is kind of perfect with

1156
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: four or five buckshot wounds not fatal at all. And

1157
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: the deer for whatever reason, runs up onto the trail

1158
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of like in the middle of us all and stops.

1159
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: I pull out air and I can't see a thing.

1160
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: I pull out area and try to sight it down

1161
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: side and hit the brocket deers in the back leg.

1162
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: The brocket deer runs off in the jungle. Then we

1163
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: got then someone trying to light it out and I

1164
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: shot it through the back end of the rib cage

1165
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: and then it expired, you know, and um, this deer,

1166
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: I know how to describe that deer kind of lower

1167
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: to the ground, very small. They call it what they

1168
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: called boss. It's like the size of a fawn. I

1169
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: feel like a white tail phone in Michigan. It does

1170
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: get shot off and during on season, I mean one

1171
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: of those deer deer you can pick up with, you know,

1172
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: one hand. But it just had a little more plumpness

1173
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: to it. So it's the size of fawn, but it

1174
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: had the fond during hunting season. I was gonna say,

1175
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 1: more like a newborn. No not yeah, way smaller. It

1176
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: wasn't like a little you know how you see those

1177
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: in the fall deer, like if you shot a deer

1178
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: um September twenty a white tail, not a November farm

1179
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: no way. A small deer, but robust, had a mature

1180
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: looked to it, with small reddish color, had a tail

1181
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: reminiscent of a white tail, but proportionately I felt, had

1182
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: shorter legs. Yes, definitely wasn't a leggy as our white tails.

1183
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: They dragged up the trail and I can't remember there's

1184
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: a term for a camera what it is. It's where

1185
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: you got so I learned the term in Scotland. You

1186
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: got something from the diaphragm back. So he made just

1187
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: a whole but you have to get his hand in

1188
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: and gutted everything from the diaphragm back, meaning the intestines

1189
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: in the stomach, and discarded him. Didn't hang on to him,

1190
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: cut a string from tree bark, tied it around his

1191
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: waist and around its shoulders, just behind its shoulders. Bloody

1192
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: is all get out and then throws it on his

1193
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: back and head it out. Nothing more important happening, right, Nope,

1194
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: you gotta give a visual image of Marco though, yeah,

1195
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, which interesting night vision of what this guy.

1196
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: We are running full long sleeves, pants and shirts, you know,

1197
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: buffs to protect our necks and not just for the sun,

1198
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: but because of of biting stinging things, bugs, and these

1199
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: boys as soon as they get on the trail at night,

1200
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: everybody just makes it shirt off and you know it's

1201
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: just and Marco has a very Bruce Lee like look,

1202
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, were you one years old? Wiry cut and

1203
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: when he put that it's like it is bark basically

1204
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: takes off of the tree. It's maybe like an inch

1205
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: and a half two inches wide, ties a couple of

1206
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: slip knots in it to hold onto the deer, and

1207
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: then it's just the perfect size where the it doesn't

1208
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: go across his shoulders, but it comes over his head

1209
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 1: and like the strap is right across his chest, just

1210
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: above his nipples. Yeah, don't even carry duffle bags like that,

1211
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 1: and the belower your clavicles kind of across your shoulder. Yeah,

1212
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: And and lean into it and the deer is hanging

1213
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: basically just above the small of his back. And uh,

1214
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 1: that was the end of it. We knew at that

1215
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: point as the end of it. I kind of thought, well,

1216
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: from what I had heard, it was like, oh, you'll

1217
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: kill something, and then that the boys are gonna keep

1218
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: hunting because you're out there, You're gonna keep hunting. But

1219
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: what would tipped us off is that the whole way

1220
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: the next hour, the hype back to camp, it was

1221
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: constant chimani jibber jabber, and Steve and I would joke

1222
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, we think they're talking about

1223
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: hunting this, that and the other, but they're probably just

1224
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: catching up on the river. So we get back and

1225
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: that dear they they do deer totally totally different. They quartered,

1226
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: They quartered the deer and cut the head off at

1227
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: the neck, believe, all the skin on. They cooked and

1228
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: they got their smoker rack and they cooked the deer

1229
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: with the hair on it. They smoking with the hair on,

1230
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: so you just like literally cut the deer up and

1231
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: you don't pay attention about hairside down and eat side down.

1232
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: For how many hours? Too many a lot? They cooked

1233
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:57,520
Speaker 1: it on that smoker so long that what the shanks

1234
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: wound up being like assole bookoed almost in a dryway,

1235
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: where the shank was the delicate the was the delicate part.

1236
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 1: They're like, here's the best part. He strips that hide

1237
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: off the shank and was pulling little pieces of meat

1238
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: out of there because there's so much gelatin in there

1239
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: that they were still kind of moist and tender. Everything

1240
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: else was just that reminded me of smoke turkey. Like

1241
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: to me that that venice and shanks tasted like smoke turkey.

1242
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: But I thought, and they'll leave it on the smoker

1243
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: and they'll pull off the smoker and it gets swarmed

1244
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 1: in bees in a way you wouldn't believe in general,

1245
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: all of their cutting methods, cooking methods, uh, just a

1246
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: lot rougher than what we were used to. Um. Like,

1247
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: it's like you said, they don't waste anything, but we

1248
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: also just have learned to take so much more care

1249
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: in the preparation of it all. And I'm not saying

1250
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: bacteria stample, yeah, and I'm not taking care of it,

1251
01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, I'll tell you what though, they cooked

1252
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 1: the hell everything, But that wasn't to say, well, I wasn't.

1253
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 1: My feeling on inflammation is is unadvertising. Is what they're

1254
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: cooking might look to an outsider. They relish it more

1255
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 1: than you relish your food. Yeah, they're more excited about

1256
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: than you are about your dinner tonight. One thing I

1257
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: thought was really cool was that the that night, actually

1258
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 1: both the night of the monkey kill and the deer killed,

1259
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: was to me almost the same exact vibe in an

1260
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: American hunting camp, where they were just absolutely celebrating at home,

1261
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: like they were just happy as ship. You know, they

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: had some drinks afterwards that they were beaming. The entire

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01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: camp was happy. Everybody huddled around that the butchering big

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: as catfish too, Yeah, No, it was just it was

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01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: just like it was a pure celebration. Everybody was retelling

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01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: the story of Steve, you know, using the ball and

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: how fast he shot this. You know, Steve's out here

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01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: with a white carbon spider, you know, the top top,

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: the best of the best, basically out there as far

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01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: as modern compound boats. Showing these guys at boat, you

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01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: might as well, like someone said, you might as well

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: be like an alien showing them your spaceship blown away.

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: It was almost like the first like what do you

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01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: imagine it was like when the planes Indians or any

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 1: American Indians saw a rival. It was really shot first

1276
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 1: shot at that six ft diameter log at tankards blown away. Man,

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: this whole Bolivia trip, and we've only scratched the surface.

1278
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: We talked about one aspect of it. We're gonna turn

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: into three shows, three episodes, twenty two minutes per episode.

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of material, man. And I'll tell you

1281
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: what um coming out of it, I have not a

1282
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: change perspective, but just a really enhanced perspective where um

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01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 1: it is fun and very educational and inspiring and beautiful.

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01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: Um to spend time with indigenous peoples who have a

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01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: lineage on the landscape that's unbroken. You know, there are

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01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: many Western influences were with these guys that are shocked on.

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: They have flashlights, but all that stuff winds up seeming

1288
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: very superficial. Um to be out with people who are

1289
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: on the land which is intact. You know this particular place.

1290
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: I know it's a ton of degradation of rainforest all

1291
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,679
Speaker 1: over the you know the latitude of lines that have rainforest,

1292
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: and it's a huge environmental concern and a huge conservation concern.

1293
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: But here in this corner of the world, you can

1294
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: have the experience of being out in intact rainforest, intact

1295
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: the jungle, largely untouched, with people who have been knocking

1296
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: around here forever um hunting the things they've always hunted,

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01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 1: and in ways the way they've always hunted them. And

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: it's it really is, despite everything biting you and there's

1299
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 1: heat in the sweat and and just the pervasive uncomfortableness

1300
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 1: is as a hunter, very inspiring, very uplifting. I would

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01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: say we're coming on having made about sixty episodes of

1302
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: mediat or more at this point, and I would say,

1303
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do to get your eyes on

1304
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: these shows, because because there's that there's something here that's

1305
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: that's pretty special. Just the depth of the of the

1306
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: character and the of of both the place and the

1307
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: people that we were with that I think it's gonna

1308
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: be something to really keep an eye out for. Yeah,

1309
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: so we are the shows. None of we turns into

1310
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 1: a big ad for the show, but we had to

1311
01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: show the Sportsman channel. UM, and I'll tell you what.

1312
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: Whatever we come up with and whatever we put forward

1313
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: involving this monkey and everything, no one there will mess

1314
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: with it. Um cooling about the network where at is

1315
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: they don't screw with us at all. We can run

1316
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: things that are shocking and you know, things you're not

1317
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: gonna see anywhere else because someone would pull it. But

1318
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: we'll run it in UM Thursday's a p m. Or

1319
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: go to meat Eat or dot is it TV, dot

1320
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: vah X or vh X, dot TV Media, dot TV,

1321
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 1: dot VHX is it. Yeah. If you put in Meteor

1322
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: podcast you get five bucks off any purchase of shows.

1323
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,839
Speaker 1: You can go there and stream them and download them.

1324
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: It's a great way to watch it. The best way

1325
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: to watch is just to watch it when it comes out.

1326
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: If you can't watch when it comes out going download

1327
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: your streaming meat or dot vh x c D or

1328
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: just go to the meat eat or dot com and

1329
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: you'll find all kinds of stuff in all kinds of

1330
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: ways to watch. But these are gonna be special shows,

1331
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: man um. You'll get a glimpse of the lifestyle that

1332
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: has been here a long time. But maybe um won't

1333
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: be here for much longer. I'm not sure. And what's

1334
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: so much content I think here too that will definitely

1335
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: be throwing up some web specials and putting stuff on

1336
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. So it's always good to keep up

1337
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: with the Meteor website because there's always a little interesting

1338
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: tidbits that it's a bummer we can't get them into

1339
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: every show, but at least we get to, you know,

1340
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: put them out on the internet something. People can check

1341
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: them out. Marco's Jaguar hunting story. Yeah, all right, we're

1342
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: hoping they we're gonna get picked up by this airplane tomorrow.

1343
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: If not, we'll be doing the podcast tomorrow with the

1344
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: Germanic thank you. You should have pied, You should have

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01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 1: plied