1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. And what a 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: game for the Seattle Seahawks in Atlanta. It started off 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: a bit slow. It was tied six to six at 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: the half. Just a little bit sluggish. Offensively, the defense 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: looked fine. They looked great, Nick m and Worrie swarming 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: all over the place, Devin Witherspoon playing a great game, 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and DeMarcus Lawrence all the culprits playing well 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: for that defense. But offensively just a little bit of 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: a struggle. Atlanta has done well against the pass this 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 1: season despite their record, and they did a good job 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: against Seattle Seahawks, against Jackson Smith and Jigba. Against Sam Donald. 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: They brought pressure on Sam Donald. He struggled a little 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: bit with his accuracy in the first half, but the 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: start of the second half and overall the second half 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: was an entirely different story, Mitchell. It started with Rashid 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: Shaheed making his biggest play as a Seattle Seahawks one hundred, 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: the first one hundred yard play of the season, one 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: hundred yard return kickoff return. Coming into the game that 19 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons were the worst kickoff return and kickoff unit 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: and kickoff covers unit in the National Football League, and 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: the Seahawks exploited that that that's just something that Another 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: component of what makes this Seattle Seahawks team so complete 23 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: is that every phase is a strength, every phase. And 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I know we can talk about how the offense is 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: struggled with the last few weeks, and Sam has struggled, 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: no question about it. But for a team to go 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: on the road and continue to play like the Seattle 28 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks have and I mean they're world warriors. I think 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: they've only lost one road game this season, and I 30 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: mean it's something insane like fifteen or sixteen and one 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: over their last seventeen games. They just have a way 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: of going on the road, walking in in your trap 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: and taking over your trap. Mentell you hear it every 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: time in the locker room when they when they played 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: a song, they walk in your trap and take over 36 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: your trap. And that's what they did in Atlanta. They 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: walked in they trap, took over they trap. The defense 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: started to dominate right after that shit shit he touchdown, 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: The defense forces a fumble, recovers it, the offense wakes up. 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: They all of a sudden wake up. Find Jackson Smith 41 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and jig, but he gets his most productive drive of 42 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: the game. Uh and it ended with a Jackson Smith 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: and jig but twenty eight yard touchdown. That's when things 44 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: started to to to really really snowball for the Seattle Seahawks. 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: In the Atlanta Falcons, they could not stop him. Kirk 46 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: Cousins through two interceptions in his game, one to nick 47 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Emmin Worey, who was probably honestly the player of the game. 48 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: I would likely be up for Player of the Week 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: this week. He had an interception, a sack, a block 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: field goal. The guy was everywhere he was. He was 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: milking the cow Menchell mowing the lawn, fixing the roof, 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell fixing the plumbing. He was everywhere you needed to be. 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: You talk about do it all Swiss army knife, and 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: that's a guy Mike McDonald was really really excited about 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: before the season even started, and before you know, he 56 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: got injured a little banged up before the season started, 57 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: all right, during the first game of the season. So 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: he missed a few weeks. And all Mike McDonald was 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: saying was like, wait until this kid gets into the fold, 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: waiting until he comes back. Then this defense will be unleashed, 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: and this is the first time the entire season the 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: entire starting unit of the defense has been healthy. They 63 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: got Jaron Reed back, they got Julian Love back, and 64 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: that was huge to get a Pro Bowl safety back 65 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: this point in the season. Obviously, they've been playing like 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: one of the best defensive in the National Football League 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: before they got him back. But this was a great 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: game for them. Sam Darnold recovers from a slow start, 69 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: goes twenty to thirty for two forty nine, three touchdowns, 70 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: and an interception off a tip pass to a royo. 71 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: It's a good game. It was a good game. Again, 72 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: the concerns about the running game continue. It seemed like 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta had them figured out a lot of that first 74 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: half and and kind of felt had a good feel 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: for what they were doing on the ground game. 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: In through the air. 77 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: So hopefully Clinton those guys can get it get it 78 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: figured out and and and start moving forward and start 79 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: to get that run game consistently going. But overall, if 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: you're a Seattle Seahawks fan, you have to be excited 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and proud about, proud with the with the product that 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: was put on the field this week on the road 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: in Atlanta's It was fantastic. This team looked really good 84 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and again that's why they're number two of my bot rank. 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 2: They looked the part today, at least in the second half. 86 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: Richard that at that first half they looked like they 87 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: were on auto pilot. I know the Seahawks have had 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: some trouble in Atlanta in the past, and Richard, at 89 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: six to six, it could have been, you know, ten 90 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: to six. Darnel Mooney looks like he caught a touchdown, 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: stepped out of bounds, did not res established himself. So 92 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: that was a huge turning point going into halftime. And 93 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: then obviously you see the benefit of having a guy 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: like Rashid Shaheed on the roster one hundred yard kickoff 95 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: return to start that half, and ultimately it's swung the game. 96 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: But I too, am looking at these running stats, and 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: I've watched the game and it just seems like it's 98 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: week after a week and every once in a while 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 2: to have a good running game. But Richard, is this 100 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: a personnel issue? Is this a scheme issue? What's going on? 101 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: Why have we not seen a consistent runner establish himself 102 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: in the back backfield? Because it looks like they got 103 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: some two good ones and Canine and Zach Charbiney. 104 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: What's the issue there, Rich, Well, some it's a little 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: bit of both. I think both of the running backs 106 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: can get the job done. But every play it's one guy, 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, to get a run game being successful, to 108 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: get a consistent run game, everybody has to do their job. 109 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Everybody has to stay on their blocks and execute. And 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: it seems like every single week there's one guy that 111 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: gets beat, one guy who falls off his block, one 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: guy who can't sustain long enough for the play to 113 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: develop the way it has. And some of it is 114 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: Kenny's walker just bouncing everything outside and not every play 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: is designed for it to get to the edge. And 116 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: it seems like that's the reason that they're they're running 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: sharpen A on different runs inside mid zones because it's 118 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like K nine right now, at 119 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: least at this point, and it sees is gonna be 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: patient and wait for those holes to develop. And sometimes 121 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do with with the zone scheme 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: is wait for the wave, wait for the wave, wait 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: for guys to commit, then then find the gap. And 124 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: sometimes it seems like the Canine's getting there, reading it 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: quick and then bouncing it to the outside and trusting 126 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: his speed. And this is the National Football League, and 127 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: he's made some huge plays and has incredible speed, but 128 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: there are fast guys out there. You're not gonna consistently 129 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: have success that way, and not every play is designed 130 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: for you to have success that way. Sure, and I 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: think that's one of the biggest frustrations for him, And 132 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure offensive coordinator Clinton Kobiak is you gotta trust 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: the scheme. You gotta trust with the ball is supposed 134 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: to hit and if you if you don't do that, 135 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: it's it's not ever gonna gonna click for everybody. And 136 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: maybe they need to maybe they switch it up, you know, 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: just like the San Francisco forty nine is they went 138 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: to a gap scheme eventually in a couple of games, 139 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: just to switch the mojo up, just to switch it 140 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: up to to to to switch the tendencies. And sometimes 141 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: you have to do that, is to change the and 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard. Let's not let's not think that 143 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: is easy. A team has been running a scheme for 144 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: the entire season, you installed that in training camp. But 145 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: when you see things aren't on working the way you 146 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: want to. 147 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: You gotta adjust, no question about it, Richard, this team 148 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: looks special. I mean, frankly, I always knew they were good, 149 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: but they're starting to trend towards that, Hey, they might 150 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: be pretty damn damn good. I'm starting to think that, Richard. 151 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: They got their eyes on the number one seed in 152 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: the NFC. I think it's within reach. They got some 153 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: big games coming up against the Colts, who may or 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: may not be without their starting quarterback Daniel Jones, and 155 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: then the Rams. I mean, what, in your eyes makes 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: this team so special. 157 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: It's the complete It's the completeness of this team. It's 158 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: every phase having being a strength. And Sam Donald just 159 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: just became the just just had the most wins for 160 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: its quarterback that has changed teams over over two seasons. 161 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: So he had the most wins of a quarterback. And 162 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: that's every quarterback that's ever switched teams. That's the Tom 163 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Brady's included the Peyton Mannings. Who would have thought Sam 164 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: Donald would switch teams and have the most wins over 165 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: that period. Who would have known? But that's a huge 166 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: stat And I think the chemistry he has with Jackson 167 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: Smith and Jabba the the development, I mean continued development 168 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: of this offense, and wish they would give guys like 169 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Cody White more opportunities, if I'm being honest. But Aj 170 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: Barner Uh getting more opportunities, Arroyo trying to get more opportunities. 171 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: And then should Heat Shad Heat finding his space and 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: and and especially in an intermediate game, he caught it 173 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: a few digs in overs today. It's great to see 174 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: that that's going to continue to open this offense up 175 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: and continue to open this offense up down the field 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: and give him more opportunities. The more you can can 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: sprinkle it in and keep the defense guessing, the better 178 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: off they will be. But the huge, the biggest strength 179 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: of this team is the defense and and how consistent 180 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: they are, how deep they are at the defensive line, 181 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: how deep they are in the secondary. Ernest Jones comes 182 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: back and is is the heartbeat of this defense. Then 183 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: you got nick Ammon Moore. We talked about the huge 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: game that he had. Devin Witherspoon flying all over the place, 185 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: got an interception in this game as well. It just 186 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: Trek Wool finding his rhythm, his swagger, looking like his 187 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: old self, looking like the guys. They had high hopes 188 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: he could continue to be and he's he's continued to be. 189 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: He's making himself a lot of money, no question about that. 190 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Whether it's here or somewhere else, he's gonna he's gonna 191 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: be playing in the National Football League for a long time, 192 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: and he's gonna make a lot of money doing it, 193 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: playing in position. But this is this is honestly one 194 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: of the most complete defenses in the National League League 195 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Football League. And the only reason I don't say the 196 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: most complete is because the Houston Texans are out there 197 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: really just mauling people over the last ten games. So 198 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks just have such a bright future. They're 199 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: so young. I think they're second youngest team in the 200 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: National Football League. They got a lot of young guys 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: really really thriving right now, and that's why you get hold. 202 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: But then they got veterans. They got to Marcus Lawrence 203 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: playing football. Looks like he's having the most funny he's 204 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: had playing football in a long time. You got Leonard Williams, 205 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: a guy who's who's having a blast playing football. The 206 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: veteran presence Jaron Reid is coming back Byron Murphy Byron 207 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: Murphy is is blastoming into the player they always hoped 208 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: he would be a guy that you know, some people 209 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: were calling busting a lot of different things his rookie year. 210 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Has really really had a quietly dominant season and started 211 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: some game, has rotated some games, but has been incredibly 212 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: impactful all season long. And then you're not even mentioning 213 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: guys like Derek Hall and Boye Mafe and Uchena Nuosu, 214 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: and I mean, you can go on and on and 215 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: on about all these guys they have on the defensive line. 216 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: They're going in waves. And when it gets into the 217 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: playoffs and you start wearing teams down, that's when you 218 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: start to see the strength of this team is. They're 219 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: never tired on defense. They're always swarming. It's first quarter swarming, 220 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: second quarter swarming, third quarter swarming, fourth quarter turnovers, turnovers 221 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: because they've been swarming the whole game. It's relentless. And 222 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: you can see this relentless attitude, this relentless behavior, this 223 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: relentlessness every single play from every single guy. 224 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 2: And when you have that tough team to be no question, 225 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: and you gotta tip your hat to John Schneider. He's 226 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: he's put on a masterclass these last couple of years, 227 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: drafting well, evaluating talent, and free agency very well. The 228 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: trademarket obviously Rashid Shahid. 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The Bills down 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: double digits in the fourth, they look like they're well 256 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: on their way to a loss, and then Josh Allen 257 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: starts to look like the MVP of last year that 258 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: he was, And my goodness, did they take over this 259 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 2: game offensively and defensively. Huge win for the Bills, major comeback. 260 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow did as much as he could. You know, 261 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 2: two hundred and four yards, four touchdowns. You see how 262 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: good the Cincinnati Bengals can be when they are healthy. 263 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: But the Bills, I mean, you gotta tip your hat 264 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: and give them credit. Backs against the wall. Coming off 265 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: a brutal loss to Miami a couple of weeks ago, 266 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: they find themselves in another dog fight with a team 267 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: that's well under five hundred, and they persevere. Richard, your 268 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: thoughts on this Buffalo Bills game in their major comeback today. 269 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, another incredible game for Josh Allen through the 270 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: air and with his legs. Obviously tough in tough conditions. 271 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: It was snow on the ground. They were in a 272 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: dog fight. They were down majority of this game. It 273 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: looked like this was this game was a lost calls. 274 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: They were down twenty one eleven at one point, and 275 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals defense were playing as about as well 276 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: as they played all season. And then Josh Allen turned 277 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: it on Uh. He gets a huge touchdown with his legs. 278 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it was a forty four yard touchdown or so, 279 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: longest touchdown of his career on the ground and again 280 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible plays, scrambling scrambling, looks like 281 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: the play was dad to rights in the red zone. 282 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen hits Uh Shakir in the back of the 283 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown. I mean, one of the 284 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the It looked like luck, Mitchell, but you can't call 285 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: it luck when guys like that continue to play this 286 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: way and play this way in critical games and in 287 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: very tough circumstances, and so you got to tip your 288 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: gap to him. It was a concerning game early on 289 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: for this this McDermott defense. Uh, Burrow was having his 290 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: way with him throughout this game. And and honestly the 291 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: pick six uh was wasn't It was a great play, 292 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: but it was like Joe Burrow was trying to get 293 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: a touch pass over into the pressure, because they always 294 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: say when the pressure comes, when they bring pressure, you 295 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: throw into it. And Burrow tried to throw into it. 296 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: But he threw this lollipop of a lob pass because 297 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: he it was almost like it surprised him maybe and 298 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: he wants to make sure he got the ball where 299 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be, but didn't put too much 300 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: zip on it and it and it ended up being 301 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: a mistake. I think it was a sixty something yard 302 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: pick six. Then the next drive the mistakes compound the 303 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: ball gets tipped up in another interception for Joe Burrow. 304 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: This is in the fourth quarter, and that's what turned 305 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: the game. That's what turned the game. That's what allowed 306 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills to score back to back touchdowns and 307 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: really just start roaring back in the fourth quarter. T 308 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: Higgins played a really good game. Mike Joseki, uh played 309 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: a really good game. It looked like the Cincinnati Bengals 310 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: were gonna We're gonna take this game and make it 311 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: really competitive in this AFC North late in the season. 312 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: But Uh, this lost all but eliminates them, and it 313 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: puts the Buffalo bill in a in a really great 314 00:16:56,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: spot to to continue to compete for the top seed, 315 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean the AFC and a chance to win this 316 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: AFC East if they can find a way to beat 317 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: these Patriots. Obviously it's not in their control because they 318 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: need some help along the way as well, but they've 319 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: done everything they can this week to give themselves a chance. 320 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: Great game for Josh Allen, a real stellar performance for him, 321 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: carry this team to this win in tough, tough conditions. 322 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Give him a lot of respect. 323 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: Well, you got to. And unlike the Seattle See Seahawks 324 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: who struggle on the ground, that's the Bills Forte. I mean, 325 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 2: when you got a running back and James Cook who's 326 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: constantly rushing for seventy five plus yards, catching the ball 327 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: at a backfield, big gains here and there, This Bill's 328 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: team I think the reason they get a little stagnant 329 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: and stale offensively at times is because of their wide 330 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 2: receiver room. They got a personnel issue. I think it's 331 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: pretty apparent when you're scooping up Brandon Cooks midway through 332 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: the season to try to find another safety blanket for 333 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. That's gonna be the Achilles heal. In my opinion, 334 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: with this Buffalo Bill's team, can these wide receivers rise 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 2: up and play in conditions like this during the playoffs 336 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: and beat teams that are well above five hundred disposed 337 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: of well below. That's the question I have with this 338 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: Bills team. There's greatness in there, but it seems like 339 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: they've been playing awful mediocre a lot of times. They 340 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: really squeak one out today, Richard, and it's fortunate that 341 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 2: they did. Otherwise, I mean, the Bengals, like you said, 342 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: they might be sniffing the AFC North Divisional crown if 343 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: they go the other way with this game. Richard. Let's 344 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: take it to the Chador Sanders Land in Cleveland. The Browns, 345 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about a game that you did not 346 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 2: expect to be good against the Tennessee Titans, But Shador 347 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: Sanders put up three hundred and sixty four yards three touchdowns, 348 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: brings back the Browns against a double digit deficit against 349 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: these lowly Titans, and almost ties it up late but 350 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: for probably one of the most ridiculous two point for 351 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: conversion calls that I've ever seen recent memory. But let's talk, 352 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders looks to me like Cleveland might have found 353 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: someone here for the future. I know you like Shador Standers. 354 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: You've stood on the podium and sung praises to this 355 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: man's name for the last couple of years. Are you 356 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: liking what you see right now? Despite the loss? 357 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: No question, I love what I saw from Shador Sanders today. 358 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Obviously there's still some growth there. There's growth. Every rookie 359 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: quarterback whoever steps in the National Football League will have growth. 360 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: They'll have growth each game. They'll have things you can 361 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: do better. But do you see the potential? Do you 362 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: see an NFL quarterback? Do you see NFL level throws? 363 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Do you see NFL level decision making? And you see 364 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: all those things With Shador Sanders, you saw a dime 365 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: of a throw in his first touchdown pass to his 366 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: first touchdown pass was to Najoku. It was a pinpoint pass, 367 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: tight coverage him off of his back foot, maybe not 368 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: the best footwork in the world, but accurate pass for 369 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Then you see a really beautifully layered throw 370 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: to Jerry Judy that ends up in a touchdown. Jerry 371 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: Judy catches the ball in stride, does the rest, gets 372 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: the ball to the end zone in a huge I 373 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: think it was a sixty yard touchdown pass. But you 374 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: saw great things from Shador. He even did it with 375 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: his legs. He had a fourteen yard touchdown run where 376 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: he socker are. I think it was around fourteen yards 377 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: touchdown run where he sacrificed his body. He ended up 378 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: with four total touchdowns in this game. And the underlying thing, 379 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: I know you don't worry about storylines and these background stories, 380 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: but he was playing against cam Ward and they they're 381 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: known to be really good friends. Cam Ward obviously the 382 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft, and he was out 383 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: played today by Shador Sanders and far out played Shaar Door. 384 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Sanders had was twenty three or forty two for three 385 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: sixty four three passing touchdowns. Did have a really bad 386 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: I mean not a bad I in T, but a 387 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: I in T. You don't want to pass. I'm sure 388 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: he would have wanted back. He was a little high 389 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to take a shot down the field, Woods making 390 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: him pay for it again a learning opportunity. He's not 391 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 1: the only one to throw interception. You're not the first, 392 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: won't be the last. But what you did see in 393 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: this game was consistency from you saw, Hey, when the 394 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: when When it's not there, he's either he's either getting 395 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: the ball, throwing the ball away, or he's eating it. 396 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: He only took two sacks in this game. That's growth 397 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the offensive line for the for the 398 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns is excited to hear that, because that's one 399 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: of the knocks on your door. Sanders. He holds the 400 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: ball too long, he takes unnecessary sacks that puts his 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: team in a really difficult situation. He's a guy that 402 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: really values completion percentage, so sometimes he doesn't throw the 403 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: ball away as much as he probably should. I think 404 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: today he threw all that out the window, said Hey, 405 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to win, I'm gonna do. And in 406 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: a game where the run game wasn't necessarily as effective 407 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: as it usually is, the run game for the Cincinnati Bengals, 408 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: I mean for the Cleveland Browns is something they usually 409 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: lean on. Judkins has been phenomenal. Season, has has really 410 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: been productive, but today it just wasn't his day. He 411 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: had fourteen carries for twenty six yards, only one point 412 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: nine carry average, but sure Doris Sanders carry carried the 413 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: weight this game. He did a good job each and 414 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: every drive, making good decisions, figuring out where he needs 415 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: to go, going through his progressions, and that's growth, That's 416 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: what you would expect. He played like a guy, not 417 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: like a guy picked in the fifth round. He played 418 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: like a guy you would have, if you didn't know 419 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: any better, would have thought was picked in the first round, 420 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and probably should have been picked in the first or 421 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: second round of this draft. But you know that's not 422 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: here nor there. There are quarterbacks in the league playing 423 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: worse than him, drafted a lot higher. But who am I? 424 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: I'm just a humble servant. The questionable thing and frustrating, 425 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: probably the most frustrating thing in this game if you're 426 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: just a casual fan, not even if you're a fan 427 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: of the Titans. Are the Browns was a two point 428 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: conversion at the end? Shere Doris Sanders drives this team 429 00:22:55,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: down the field, scores, they score the touchdown, and you're like, okay, 430 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: all right, they need a two point conversion. What are 431 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: they gonna do? This guy has been fantastic. They put 432 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: the ball in his hands forty two times. He's gonna 433 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: played twenty three passes three hundred and sixty four yards. 434 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: What is he gonna do this time? Even if you 435 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: decide to run it, the run game is it isn't 436 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: doing great. But you take him out the game. You 437 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: take him out the game on the most critical play 438 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: of the game. And then Judkins, who's out a quarterback, 439 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: who's Who's a really good running back I believe, and 440 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good running back in the future. 441 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: Forgets on a on a oh my god, Mitchell on 442 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: a play where it's a wildcat, and you know, so 443 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: much was going through his head, so much. He had 444 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: to he had to give the play call, he had 445 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: to do this, he had to do that, and then 446 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: he forgets to pitch the ball. Mitchell, he had taken 447 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: five steps past the guy he was supposed to pitch 448 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: the ball to before he remembered, oh my god, I'm 449 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: supposed to pitch the ball if they try to turn 450 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: around and throw it back to the guy. That's what 451 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: we do for the game. Like I think STEVANSI has 452 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: done a done a pretty solid job in Cleveland, and 453 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 1: I think he's he's done some good things, especially early on. 454 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: He won Coach of the Year a couple of times. 455 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: But my goodness, was that awful. My goodness was that awful? 456 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: And I and I know he's gonna be criticized of 457 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: it because of how polarizing shador is in America right now. 458 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: And Trudeur played a fantastic game. He gave you a 459 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: chance to win the game, he gave you a chance 460 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: to tie it. And you say, hey, we're gonna take 461 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: you out. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna 462 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: give the play to a guy who doesn't really call 463 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: plays in the most critical time in the game, and 464 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna see if he can do it. We're gonna, 465 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna say, hey, can our rookie running back get 466 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: us where we need to be? Mitchell, that's what they said. 467 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: They said. They said, we're gonna give our put put 468 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: the game in our rookie running backs hands. He's gonna 469 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: call the right play to make the right decision. Instead 470 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: of our rookie quarterback who plays quarterback, whose job it 471 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: is to call plays and run plays. We're just gonna 472 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: take him out and win. See see what happens if 473 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: I'm that in Cleveland Browns defense, I am frustrated. I 474 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: am pissed. I am pissed. I mean, they didn't play 475 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: their greatest game by by any means. They gave up 476 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: thirty one points. But what was that, Kevin Stevanski? I don't, 477 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm sure somebody can explain that play. Somebody 478 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: can can peel back the layers and tell me why 479 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: they went with a rookie running back wildcat. They sure 480 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: they've had some success with it. 481 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Sure, but Mitchell, you want to what do you want 482 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: to put on that tenfoil cap with me? Here, Richard, 483 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 2: I got a conspiracy for you. Let's put it on. 484 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I think Kevin Stevansi's a good coach. I 485 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: think he's underrated. I would I wouldn't mind him as 486 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: my head coach if I was a Cleveland Browns. But 487 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: they're three and ten, three and nine, you know, Titans 488 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 2: are one and eleven. There's something called a draft positioning right. 489 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: I mean this even Brown's team is not gonna make 490 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Richard could have even gotten this from ownership. 491 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Hey Kevin, we got this this play that the owner 492 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: wants to run. Why don't we try it out now? 493 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: We don't want to win this game anyways, because that's 494 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 2: kind of what it looked like to me. Looks like, 495 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: seems like feels like the Cleveland Browns did not actually 496 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 2: want to win this game, Richard. That being said, I 497 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: will say this about Cleveland. You know, next year, it's 498 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: they're bringing back to Shaun Watson in his massive cap hit. 499 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: There's nothing you can do about that. Once this team 500 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: gets out from under that huge mistake that they made 501 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: and getting rid of Baker Mayfield and bringing into Shawn, 502 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 2: I think you might have something with Shador here. I mean, 503 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a ton of cap space. You're still 504 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: gonna have Miles Garrett in his prime. Who knows. I mean, 505 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: maybe Cleveland is actually doing something smart by losing this game. 506 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see that vision, Mitchell. I want 507 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: to say, oh man, they they're they're above the brain. 508 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: They're big brain in this thing. But they're not They're 509 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: not they're not big braining this thing. You could have 510 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 1: lost the game in ot mentro There's many other ways 511 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: you could lose a game, Like if you're telling me 512 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: you you decided, hey, we're gonna do this to lose 513 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: the game. It's if FBI is gonna add to their investigation, 514 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. And Steph Kevin Stefanski is gonna 515 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: be on that list. But I I really don't know 516 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: what they do at quarterback next season. It's gonna be 517 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: a crowded quarterback room. What do you do with a 518 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: healthy Deshaun Watson? There are a lot of QB and 519 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: needy teams. Every year that's gonna be a QB and 520 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: needy team. Does anybody still believe in Deshaun Watson like that? Potentially? 521 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: Can he has some add some value to somebody? Probably 522 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: not for that contract because not a lot of people 523 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: are gonna wanna pay him that money. Are you desperate 524 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: enough to eat that salary for maybe a couple of 525 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: draft picks? Those are decisions they're gonna have to make. 526 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: But the way Stefanski talks about Sho Dori Sanders, and 527 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean maybe he talks about all rooky quarterbacks and 528 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks this way, it doesn't seem like like a 529 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: guy that's excited about him, like a guy that he's 530 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: excited about playing and excited for his success. And I 531 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't hear him after this game. I didn't have a 532 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: chance to earxpress conference after this game. But if you 533 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: listen to to the way Vrabel talks about Drake May 534 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, or or even the way Sean Payton talks 535 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: about bon Nicks or you know, guy coaches who speak 536 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: confidence into their young quarterbacks, there's something to be said 537 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: about that. There's something to be said to know that 538 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: your coach and play caller thinks hiy of you, thinks 539 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: you can get the job done, believes you're the guy. 540 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: And obviously they didn't believe Shador was the guy because 541 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: if they thought he was the guy, he would have 542 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: drafted him higher. They drafted Dylan Gabriel higher. So that's 543 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: the guy who, obviously, in their mind, in the in 544 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: the ownership's mind, in the front office's mind, and the 545 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: coach's mind, is the better player. Now Shador has played 546 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: better like Dylan Gabriel, doesn't have a game comparable to 547 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: this where he in my opinion, where he had four 548 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: total touchdowns in the game where he threw for three 549 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: sixty four, where he looked like an NFL quarterback a 550 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: lot of deal in. Gabriel's games were sometimes efficient ish, 551 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: but they were conservative. He just was trying to play 552 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: no risk football. Hey, I'm not going to push the 553 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: ball down the field. I don't want to risk a turnover. 554 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna lean on my defense and run 555 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: game and hope for the best. Shador Standers is playing, Hey, 556 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: I will push that. I will push it down the field. 557 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: And now they do those screens and he benefits from 558 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: some yak and running backs making big plays. But running 559 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: back fumbled the ball today. It hurt this team. That's 560 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: probably a big reason they lost this game as well. 561 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: But I think Shador Standers showed he's an NFL quarterback 562 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: and he can be a really good NFL quarterback if 563 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: he continues to develop and continues to build on this. 564 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: And I know people talked about how arrogant he was, like, 565 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: oh man, this is only a week of practice, This 566 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: is only a week of practice, or what like. It 567 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: just rubs people the wrong way. And for people that 568 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: have grown up in that culture and grown up in 569 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: neighborhoods like that, where you have to be where you 570 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: have to walk it like you talk, where you have 571 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: to back up what you say, where you have to 572 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: really be about what you say you're about. It didn't 573 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: sound that crazy to me. Sound like a guy who 574 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: who knows himself, who's been through the fire, who thinks 575 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: he can go through the fire, and knows he can 576 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: do the job he's being asked to doing. That's sometimes 577 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: what is needed. Maybe every other quarterback doesn't doesn't outwardly 578 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: say it, but they feel it. I guarantee you, I 579 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: guarantee you Drake Mayfield's he's the best quarterback in the 580 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm not even gonna talk about the 581 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: top five guys Josh Allen and Burrow and Lamar and 582 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers and talk about how they feel about 583 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: themselves when they step on that football field, because there 584 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: is no doubt. So a young kid just outwardly displaying it. 585 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna always rub people the wrong way, But 586 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: so what, So what? Maybe that's why y'all not special. 587 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe maybe you need to change the way 588 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: you feel about yourself to be able to go out 589 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: into the world and perform like you're capable to really 590 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: to really realize your potential. Maybe that's not the right 591 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: way to do things in your eyes, but there are 592 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: many ways. It's gonna catch, many ways to have success 593 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: in many ways to play this game, and that's part 594 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: of the journey. Maybe one day Shador Sanders wake up 595 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: and be like, I don't really want to play it 596 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: like that no more. I want to I want to 597 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: go a different route. I want to I want to 598 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: be quiet, speak up on my teammates. But he speaks 599 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: highly of his teammates, he celebrates his teammates, he speaks, 600 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,239 Speaker 1: he does the things. He doesn't throw his quarterback, I mean, 601 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: his coach under the bus at all when when coach 602 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: makes obvious mistakes. I'm sure after in his press conference, 603 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna ask him what does you feel about Kevin 604 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Stefanski's decision to take you from under center and put 605 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: Judkins in on the most critical part of the game. 606 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: And he's probably gonna say, hey, I trust my coach. 607 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: If that's what they decide, that's what they think is best, 608 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: that's what we gotta go with. I'm just excited to 609 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: be a part of this team and a part of 610 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: this organization. He says the right things. So it's frustrating 611 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: when guys treat treat young quarterbacks a certain way that 612 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: believe in themselves, But you know, it is what it is. 613 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: It's the league. 614 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Richard, Let's take the conversation to the AFC North. 615 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: The Steelers go on the road in a must win 616 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 2: scenario and beat the Baltimore Ravens at M and T Bank, 617 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers looks like vintage Aaron Rodgers again. There 618 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: was a lot of conversation about his hand and coming 619 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: into this game, how he's gonna have to be in 620 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: shotgun all game and YadA, da da da. But at 621 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: the end of the day, the Pittsburgh Steelers finally looked 622 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: good offensively. This was an offense that had been sputtering 623 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: the last few weeks. There was a lot of conversation 624 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: about should they just put Mason Rudolph in this game 625 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: to give him better shot to win. Aaron Aaron Rodgers 626 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: quickly cliudeed quieted those conversations. His connection with DK meccalf 627 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: today was a different Seven receptions for one hundred and 628 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: forty eight yards. Impressive win by the Steelers, But what 629 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 2: in the world is going on with Baltimore. I mean, 630 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: they have not looked themselves all season long. I understand 631 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: they're dealing with injuries, but come on, I mean offensively, 632 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: these are the same guys that they've had on the 633 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: field for the last numerous seasons and they have not 634 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: been able to get it going. Before we go into 635 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: the game, Richard, what has happened to the Baltimore Ravens 636 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 2: that we all knew from the last couple of years. 637 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: I really can't explain it, but it starts with Lamar Jackson. 638 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: He just doesn't look like the guy, the the m 639 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: v P, the annual MVP Canada, the perennial m VP 640 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: candidate that he's been. He doesn't look as dynamic. I don't. 641 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: You've seen him jump on and off the injury report 642 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: for various things. Maybe there's something underlying there that that 643 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: is that is much more serious than than than the 644 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens are letting on. We we saw that, we 645 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: saw them get fined for for the game. Where where 646 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: where they they activated him and and and said, hey, 647 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: he's limited, et cetera, et cetera, he has a chance 648 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: to play, and then ultimately decided not to play him 649 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: in the game, So I think there's something going on. 650 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: They start the season one and five after he got hurt, 651 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: but they didn't look good that great then we can 652 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: talk about I mean, it all really really started to 653 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: go downhill. Maybe that Buffalo game when when when Derek 654 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: Henry fumbled with that ball in the fourth quarter, and 655 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: and things kind of just started to cascade. Things that 656 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: are unusual for Baltimore Ravens team started to happen, and 657 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: that's continuing to happen. And and with all that's it, 658 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: they're still they still got a slim chance to win 659 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: this division because everybody Pittsburgh is just says it inconsistent 660 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: as Baltimore is. You don't know what you're gonna get 661 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: from them from one week to the next. They got 662 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who are who are playing really good football. 663 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: The Steelers face to Dolphins, and they got your Detroit Lions, 664 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: who who could go either way. You know, your Detroit 665 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: Lions could put a hurt and on them. And then 666 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: the Browns a division game that's gonna be rough and 667 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: tough and tumble, and then you got the Baltimore Ravens. 668 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: So that last game could potentially be for this division. 669 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: But Lamar Jackson just does just looks out of sorts 670 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: right now for some reason. And this was his first 671 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: touchdown and I think four weeks, first passing touchdown in 672 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: four weeks, and that's the way he's been struggling in 673 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: another interception. Think over the last four weeks he's gotten 674 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: one touchdown and four interceptions, which is which is just crazy. 675 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 1: And this was his first rushing touchdown this game since 676 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: Week one. These are things that it's unheard of, and 677 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's mind boggling, and those are the things 678 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: that you're like, hey, I don't unless I go into 679 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,439 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens locker room and building and really see 680 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: what's going on, I can't really explain it because it 681 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: just looks odd. Derrick Henry is is. He had twenty 682 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: five carries in this game, and usually when Derrek Henry 683 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: gets over twenty something carries, they win these games. But 684 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't, and the Steelers were the better 685 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: team this game, and the Steelers were the better team 686 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: the entire game. Aaron Rodgers and DK Metcalf, we were 687 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of outside noise and about how 688 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: they can't connect and how DK might not be the guy, 689 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: And what they showed in this game is maybe DK 690 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: is the guy and things just weren't They just weren't clicking. 691 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: They just didn't have the field early on. But if 692 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: they can play like they did in this game, they'll 693 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: be a tough outfit to beat. If their defense can 694 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: get an interception and sack the quarterback and critical situations 695 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: like they like they did in this game, they will 696 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: be okay. But on the other side, Baltimore's defense, no sacks, 697 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: no interceptions, just a pedestrian effort from a defense that 698 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: has been historically really good. You always expect good defense 699 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: from Baltimore. Now the last few years they've had they've 700 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: had stretches where they've looked awful. They've looked they've been 701 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: one of the worst pass defenses and scoring defenses statistically, 702 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: and then they've had stretches where they've turned it on 703 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: and looked really great. But since Mike McDonald has left, 704 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: they aren't the same kind of defense, and that's been shown. 705 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: That's been a big, big change in this team. And 706 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: you wonder in this the thirty ninth meeting between Tomlin 707 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: and Hardball, like is both of the times coming to 708 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: an end? You know, are these teams gonna move on 709 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: and say, hey it's a new garden. Times are changing. 710 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: These teams don't hire a new quarter I mean new 711 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: coaches very often, these aren't. These aren't those kind of franchises. 712 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: But you have to wonder if the powers that be 713 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: or thinking about, hey, maybe it's time for change. 714 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: You never know, But I mean, regardless, this is a 715 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 2: massive win for Pittsburgh. This is a team that looked 716 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: like they wanted it a lot more. I know they 717 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: couldn't get the rushing game going today, only thirty four 718 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 2: rushing yards. But I tell you what, Kenneth Gainwell has 719 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: been a big, low key addition for them this offseason, 720 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: the guy in the red zone, giving it to him 721 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: on the edge. He seems to be consistent and helping 722 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 2: them get into the end zone. So, like you said, 723 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 2: a couple of big games on the horizon and now 724 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: one in Ford Field against the Lions. Heaven forbid, they 725 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: beat the Detroit Lions, but they're gonna be in must 726 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 2: win mode. So that's gonna be like a playoff game. 727 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 2: Every game going forward for them is going to be 728 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 2: like a playoff game. Let's talk Jaguarres and Colts. I'm 729 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: the Cults were one of the hottest teams in all 730 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: for they were the hottest team in all football to 731 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: start the season. Daniel Jones total revelation. Indiana Jones, Right, Richard, 732 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: we haven't heard about Indiana Jones a whole lot recently. 733 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 2: I know he's been battling the leg injury. Now he's 734 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: got this Achilles injury. Is this the end of the 735 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Coast magical season? 736 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: Sadly, it looks like it looks that way, Mitchell. And 737 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because they had been playing really great football, 738 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: complimentary football. They went all in trading for Sauce Gartner, 739 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: and it looked like maybe that move would propel them 740 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: and to the Stratuspeare that they wanted to be in 741 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: of AFC contender. And then you lose Daniel Jones. And 742 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: that's the unfortunate part of this game. When you're trying 743 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: to battle through injury, when you're trying to say, hey, 744 00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm fighting for my team, sometimes you're your sacrifice isn't 745 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: rewarded and your body is trying to compensate. But in 746 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: trying to compensate, you overcompensate and you injure something else. 747 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: I've been victim of this many times. You know. I 748 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: tear my knee up, my other quad strains, my glued strain, 749 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: my backstrains, tear one achilles, the other ones banged up, 750 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But these are the kind of 751 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: sacrifices that I'm not even sure fans recognize and to 752 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: this degree because at this point they're like, oh, well, 753 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, that's unfortunate. That sucks for my team, not 754 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: that it sucks for Daniel Jones to go out there 755 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: and sacrifice the way he did for my team and 756 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: potentially have a season ending injury that will will go 757 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: will travel on to next year and potentially put him 758 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: out for some of the next season and drastically affect 759 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: his free agency and the money that he can make 760 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: going forward, the money that he can make as Indianapolis colt, 761 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: et cetera. That's why I think that was the frustration 762 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: of him slamming his helmet on the garround. He immediately 763 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: the understood the consequences and the results of what just happened. 764 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: And that's the saddest part about this. I'm so sad 765 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: because he had been having such a resurgence, such a 766 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: really cool season that and you want to see that 767 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: for guys. If you guys struggling, you know, you got 768 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: to report it the way it is. But you don't 769 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: want to see him continue to struggle and continue to 770 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: struggle and give you up. You'd love to see a 771 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: comeback story. And he was having a beautiful comeback story. 772 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: The Indianapolis Colts were having a beautiful revival. Everybody's talking 773 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: about the owner, her coming down, wearing the headset, et cetera, 774 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: her the note taking, et cetera, et cetera. It's fun, 775 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: it's a great story, and you're looking forward to how 776 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: they're going to do in the postseason. They had been 777 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: playing well defensively. I had had been a top five, 778 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: top ten defense. He looked like an MVP candidate in 779 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: the backfield with Jonathan Taylor sixteen touchdowns on the season. 780 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,320 Speaker 1: Now and now it looks like that has all fallen apart. 781 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: You're now going with a quarterback Leonard out of Notre 782 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: Dame struggled in this game. Eighteen to twenty nine interception. 783 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: That's that's no fault of his own. That's it We're 784 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: not gonna judge him all of that. He needs a 785 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: weak you know, to preparing them the game plan and 786 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: designed a plan around him and his strengths. But now 787 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: they got to go and play the Seattle Seahawks, a 788 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: team that's playing fantastic football, that's rolling. They got to 789 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: play the same the Seattle Seahawks and try to try 790 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: to get a win there. Because you're going from hey, 791 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: we're we're leading this division, we're winning, running away with 792 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: this division, to now the Jaguars are winning this division, 793 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans are on an incredible run. You could 794 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: find yourself out of the playoffs with a few losses. 795 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 1: With just a few losses, Mitchell, you could go from 796 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: the number one seed who everybody the Cinderella to Cinderella 797 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: losing the slipper off her foot. And that's the way 798 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: this league is. That's how important a quarterback was is 799 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: to a team. And so it's really sad, it's really 800 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: sad that that this has happened to Daniel Jones because 801 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: he's he it's it was such a cool story and 802 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: gonna be such a cool off season for him and 803 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: his family, and and it was gonna be well earned 804 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: but unfortunately, uh he got the achilles injury. Hopefully he 805 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: goes to UH goes to a doctor. They they have 806 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: new surgeries and new techniques they're using. That's why Aaron 807 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers was able to come back as quickly as he was. 808 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: Hopefully he goes and gets that from Elatrosh and he's 809 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: able to come back as quickly before next season. I mean, 810 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: fingers crossed. You know, you want the best for the guy. 811 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: But obviously the Jacksonville Jaguars and and and uh Trevor 812 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence are in command of this division now. Trevor Lawrence 813 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: had one of his best games of the season, throwing 814 00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: the ball to to Brian Thomas throughout the game. Had 815 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: a really good game. Tim Patrick had a really good 816 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: game and a touchdown. Jacoby Myers has been enjoying his 817 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: time in Jacksonville. It appears he had a touchdown in 818 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,439 Speaker 1: this game. The defense continues to turn the ball over 819 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 1: at a high tilt, and that's the reason this team 820 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: has had success. They continue to find a way regardless 821 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: of how many yards and all that they give up. 822 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: There have been, but don't break defense, and they turn 823 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: the ball over at a high tilt. You can do 824 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: that you can find a way to get wins in 825 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: this game. And that's what the Jacksonville Jaguars have done. 826 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: They're nine to four now and look to be on 827 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: their way to win the AFC South. 828 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: No question about it. And what stood out to me 829 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 2: today especially is Trevor Lawrence. It seems to his game 830 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 2: is it matured a little bit. He's getting more involved 831 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 2: with his legs. You know, he doesn't seem as timid 832 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 2: with the ball in his hands. And he extended a 833 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 2: couple of these drives by putting his head down and 834 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 2: driving for yardage. And then the other side of it 835 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 2: is Travis Etien. I mean, this is a year that 836 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 2: no one really expected much out of him, but reality 837 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 2: is he's playing for next year as well. He's going 838 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 2: to be a free agent after the season. Two touchdowns today, 839 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 2: and then kudos to James Gladstone, the young GM that 840 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: they brought in. He's aggressive GM. You know, he saw 841 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,760 Speaker 2: what happened with them obviously moving up to get Travis Hunter. 842 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: Whether you like to move or not, he stuck his 843 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: neck out. He wants what he called a generational talent 844 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: on his team. Once he goes down, he goes and 845 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: immediately require acquires Jacoby Myers, who's had a couple good games. 846 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: For this offense, the Jags look very good. I'm not 847 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 2: going to put him in this category where I think 848 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 2: they're Super Bowl contenders because I don't, but I think 849 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 2: they have a legitimate shot at winning this division. However, 850 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 2: I think the Houston Texans are just the better football team. 851 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 2: The Jags may have the better record, though We'll see 852 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 2: what happens, but overall, I leave this game very impressed 853 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: with what I saw from the Jags and Trevor Lawrence, 854 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 2: and kudos to James Gladstone for what he's been able 855 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,959 Speaker 2: to do in his first year as a GM. Let's 856 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 2: talk about a team that needed a win and did 857 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 2: not have the mojo today at home against the New 858 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: Orleans Saints. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers just appear lifeless offensively. 859 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 2: You can see the Mike Evans effect play play itself 860 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 2: out week after week without him there. It seems like 861 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: this offense is just totally different. A Mecca Buka. This 862 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,479 Speaker 2: guy was, you know, rookie of the year, surefire rookie 863 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 2: of the year. When's the last time we mentioned his name? Richard? 864 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 2: He had a crucial drop in the end zone on 865 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 2: this game. What has happened to these Tampa Bay Bucks 866 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: Because as they continue their downfall, their counterpart, the Carolina Panthers, 867 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 2: are looking steadily not even in the rearview mirror anymore, Richard. 868 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: They are in the driver's seat to win this division. 869 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 2: The lowly Carolina Panthers are going to potentially take over 870 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 2: this division from the Tampa Bay Bucks. I might be 871 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: speechless here. 872 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: Rich no question. And what's crazy is the NFL does 873 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: phenomenal job with these schedules because the Tampa Bay and 874 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers play each other twice in the last three 875 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, so both teams will have a 876 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: chance to decide their own destiny against one another. But 877 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: this was a really head scratching loss for the Tampa 878 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. We have them this week on Thursday Night 879 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: Football against the Atlanta Falcons, who who just struggled against 880 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Not sure the ratings will be great 881 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 1: this week, but but Baker. 882 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 2: You're gonna bring the energy regardless, Richard, I'm gonna bring 883 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: the energy. 884 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: Mitchell, I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna talk about it. 885 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 1: But Baker Mayfield really really struggled in this game. And 886 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: that's the biggest concern for this team. Is the reason 887 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: they were everybody's darling and and really everybody thought, hey man, 888 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: this team could really go even without Chris Godwin and 889 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 1: Mike Evans at one hundred percent, was because Baker Mayfield 890 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: was playing at such such a high level putting up 891 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: big numbers. They were putting up big point numbers offensively. 892 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: But now you look up in Baker Manfield fourteen to thirty, 893 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown and interception against the Saints defense that honestly 894 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been great this season, and then you lose a 895 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: game to Tyler Shah who was thirteen or twenty. It 896 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: looked like, hey, Kellen Moore was like, hey, we're just 897 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 1: gonna stay in your wheelhouse. Don't lose us to game. 898 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: He did throw an interception in the game, no touchdown, 899 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: but he again uses his legs. That's the evolution of 900 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the National Football League, knowing when and when 901 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: not to use your legs. And Tyler shut seven rushes 902 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: for fifty five yards and two touchdowns on the ground. 903 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: That was the difference in the game. You can't have 904 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: this loss if you're Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But it's all 905 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: is not lost. The NFC South is done. It's every 906 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: year it comes down to the wire, and every year 907 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers find a way, at least for 908 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: the last four years, to get it done, to win 909 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: the games they need to win, to scrape and grid 910 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 1: out the wins that they need to win to get. 911 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: And it seems like Mike Evans is on his way 912 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: back into the fold, and I think people will have 913 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: much more appreciation for him each time he comes back 914 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: from injury. Unfortunately, it looks like his streak of thousand 915 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: yard seasons is gonna end at eleven. But he'll have 916 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: impact in the next few games, and I think he'll 917 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: get them over to hump and help them win the 918 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: number one seed. But this was just a really bad 919 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: loss for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and and I mean 920 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: not even a great win for the Saints if I'm 921 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: being honest, because because at this point in the season, 922 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: it's it's what we talked about a little earlier in 923 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: the show with the Cleveland Browns, like draft position matters, 924 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna be bad, then't be bad, Like 925 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: don't don't decide at the end you want to go 926 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: upset people and and and and damage the division and 927 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: do all this because when the draft picks come down, 928 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna wish you had that leverage. You're gonna wish 929 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: you could get that guy, and you're gonna be like, 930 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: how important was that win against the Bucks? What did 931 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 1: he get you other than a worst player, not the 932 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: player a worst position in the draft. I mean, that's 933 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: that's the stuff. Not that you take games are lose 934 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,880 Speaker 1: games on purpose, because nobody's built like that in NFL. 935 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: But but it just this is a game that that 936 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: hurts both teams, honestly, and it's weird. 937 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 2: It certainly is before we leave this game. In regards 938 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: to Mike Evans, if anyone wants to debate the topic 939 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,600 Speaker 2: of whether he is a Hall of Famer, I think 940 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,319 Speaker 2: the absence of Mike Evans on this froster over the 941 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 2: last month and a half shows how good of a 942 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 2: player this guy is. Richard. In my opinion, this guy 943 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: is a Hall of Famer, no question about it. I 944 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: guess that leaves us with the Detroit Lions, Richard. They 945 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 2: took on the Dallas Cowboys in my neck of the Woods, Detroit, Michigan. 946 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,560 Speaker 2: You were in town. We had another great time together. 947 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: It's always great welcome you to my side of the country. 948 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 2: And you were able to see an absolute spectacle. The 949 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions slapped forty four on the board and took 950 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 2: care of the red hot Dallas Cowboys. We talked pregame, 951 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 2: You said you were gonna show some love to this 952 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 2: Detroit Lion team. They needed it, Richard, and they showed 953 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 2: up for you. Jamiir Gibbs is the story of the 954 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 2: NFL this week. In my opinion, he has firmly put 955 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,720 Speaker 2: his name in the hat for the most destructive, elusive best. 956 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't even want to call him best running back. 957 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he might be the best running back in football. 958 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 2: I don't know what your thoughts are on that, Richard, 959 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 2: but in my opinion, this guy just tied Barry Sanders 960 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: for the most touchdowns by anyone before the age of 961 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: twenty four, his forty seventh touchdown of his career. Your 962 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 2: thoughts on Jamier Gibbs and this Detroit Lions team who 963 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 2: desperately needed a win. 964 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: A huge win for this Detroit Lions team. They did 965 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: it with a complete effort Obviously, this defense hasn't been 966 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: hasn't been phenomenal this season, but they got a ton 967 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: of pressure. They got more sex in this game against 968 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy and they had the last four games combined, 969 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: and your guy al Kadin Muhammed had a huge game, 970 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: multiple sacks, and this is a confidence builder for that defense. 971 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 1: But you look on the other side and Jared Goff 972 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: three hundred and nine yards in a touchdown, David Montgomery 973 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,640 Speaker 1: getting involved, had a big run in the game, and 974 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: then your guy Jamier Gibbs three touchdowns in the game. 975 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,439 Speaker 1: One of the most impactful players in the National Football League, 976 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: one of the best players in the National Football League, 977 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: regardless of position, continues to make huge impact, breaking record 978 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,760 Speaker 1: after record. You can talk about his yards per carry 979 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: over the forty first forty five games, beating Barry Saners. 980 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: He has five point five yards per carry in through 981 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: his first forty five games. Jerry Rice had forty three 982 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: total touchdowns, Jamier Gibbs has forty seven. Emmitt Smith had 983 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 1: forty six, I mean forty six hundred yards total yards. 984 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs has forty seven one hundred yards and he's 985 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: doing it through the on the ground. He's been phenomenal 986 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,320 Speaker 1: and he's been consistent all season long. And you gotta 987 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that this was a Dallas Cowboys team that was rolling, 988 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 1: that was red hot. Ceedee Lamb came into this game 989 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: and really was dominating before he went out with that concussion. 990 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: He was having a fantastic day. He ended up with 991 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,080 Speaker 1: six receptions for one hundred and twenty one yards, and 992 00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: then he went out when he had that concussion where 993 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 1: his head slapped against the turf. Unfortunate. And then Flora Noyd, 994 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: who I think had twenty career catches coming into this game, 995 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 1: had nine in the game, four hundred and fifteen yards 996 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: in a touchdown. And enough has been said about George 997 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: Pickens and his performance. Was he double teamed a lot, 998 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: was he you know playing, was he engaged? You know? 999 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: Enough has been said about that. But I think that's 1000 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: gonna be the story of this offseason what the Dallas 1001 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys decide to do. They have draft picks, they have 1002 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,879 Speaker 1: a really talented offense. Obviously, see this is the number 1003 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: one offense in the National Football League coming into this game. 1004 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: So that you know they can score points, you know 1005 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: they can can push the ball, down the field. You 1006 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: know they can run the ball. Jamonte Williams has had 1007 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: a resurgence of a season of his career. It's the 1008 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: defensive side where they where they give up forty points 1009 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: and you think, hey, Quinnin Williams has had twenty one 1010 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: pressures in the last three games, and they got all 1011 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: these trades, and Adiggie Zua has also been doing great 1012 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: since Quinton Williams has come and the defense has just 1013 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 1: been playing better overall. But then they have a setback 1014 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: against the team that's a true contender, and and you 1015 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: question if they're really what they were were over those 1016 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 1: last three games or was that a mirage. They're gonna 1017 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: have to address. They're gonna have to address the defense 1018 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: as a whole. Figure out if eber Fluis is the answer, 1019 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,560 Speaker 1: if he gets another year, And personnel wise, they're gonna 1020 00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,760 Speaker 1: have to make some decisions whether to draft more guys 1021 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: at the position. You're gonna need more pass rushing, more 1022 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: pass rushers the better in special teams wise, what you're 1023 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna do to help this team be what Jerry Jones 1024 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 1: thinks they can be. He wants to win a super 1025 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: Bowl before he passes. They're gonna have to put a 1026 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,440 Speaker 1: better team together. 1027 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: No question about it. Back on the other side of 1028 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 2: the field with the Detroit Lions, we saw i'm On 1029 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: Ross Saint Brown suffer and ankle injury in the Thanksgiving 1030 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: Day game when he got rolled up on on a 1031 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: play and a lot thought that he was not going 1032 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: to be playing this game. He was listed as doubtful, 1033 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 2: then moved to questionable, then was a game time decision, 1034 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 2: and ultimately he went out there and a lot of 1035 00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 2: people thought, Hey, maybe he's just gonna go out there, 1036 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 2: run a couple of routes and be a decoy. That 1037 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 2: was not the case at all. I'm on Ross Saint 1038 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 2: Brown records six catches for ninety two yards and didn't 1039 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 2: look injured at all. I know the guy. It toughness 1040 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: is in his DNA. We've all heard about his family 1041 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 2: and his dad and just his genuine upbringing. But this 1042 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 2: kind of a player reminds me a lot of your days, Richard. 1043 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 2: He's in a boom. I know you guys played through 1044 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: your injuries, your ailments. No one ever complained about it. It 1045 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: was always hey, strap up and get ready to play. 1046 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,880 Speaker 2: And that toughness when you have that on your team. 1047 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 2: I know it's infectious. What does it mean to play 1048 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: with somebody like I'm on Ra who you know is 1049 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 2: in a world of hurt, but he's gonna go out 1050 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 2: there and put his ass on the line in a 1051 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 2: mustling game. 1052 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,040 Speaker 1: I think it's inspiring. I think inspiring to his coaches, 1053 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: to his teammates, and it gives him even more respect 1054 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: in that building and with the fan base because they 1055 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: know he's putting his money where his mouth is. He's 1056 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,239 Speaker 1: a guy that thinks this team is great. And when 1057 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,760 Speaker 1: your best players sacrifice and put them put their bodies 1058 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,759 Speaker 1: on the line for a team like that, then other 1059 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: guys know that's the standard. And that's set in a 1060 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: standard for other young guys when they have injuries or 1061 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: they're a little nicked up in the decisions they make 1062 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: going into it. If your veterans say, hey, then I'm 1063 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 1: a little sore, I'm sitting this one out, then young guys, 1064 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna trickle down. And the opposite is true as well. 1065 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: If your best guys and your best players are your 1066 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 1: hardest workers and guys that put it all on the 1067 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 1: line for the team, then the young guys will know 1068 00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: that's the way we do things in Detroit, and that's 1069 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 1: the message that I'm on right sat Brown is sending 1070 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: to this team and to the league that hey, regardless, 1071 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do everything in my power to give my 1072 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: team the best chance to win. If my body is able, 1073 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: I will be out there. And he put on an 1074 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: incredibly inspiring performance that you gotta respect and you appreciate 1075 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: if you're a Detroit Lions fan. That's a hat tip 1076 00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,120 Speaker 1: to him, Richard. 1077 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 2: Before we leave this game, I gotta ask, I mean, 1078 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 2: it was the talk of the town. George Pickens didn't 1079 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,800 Speaker 2: seem to love your commentary on him during the game, 1080 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 2: although it was valid in my opinion, Richard, what are 1081 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 2: your thoughts about his comments? I know players get emotional, 1082 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:52,200 Speaker 2: especially after losses in big games, but some of the 1083 00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 2: statements were just not factual. Whatsoever your thought about George 1084 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 2: pickens comments postgame? 1085 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 1: I don't really have any thoughts about it, Mitchell, as 1086 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: a young kid getting emotional. You know, it's it's our 1087 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: job to analyze the performance, and in that game, it's 1088 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 1: less about, you know, the the comments about his play, 1089 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: and more about the the the potential you believe he 1090 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: has and if you think he can be the best 1091 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 1: receiver in the National Football League, and that's the expectation 1092 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 1: you have for him. When you see a performance like that, 1093 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: you're disappointed. And and so that was the commentary, and 1094 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: I think that's where I was speaking from, was was 1095 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,480 Speaker 1: he has the all the ability in the world, and 1096 00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: he has a new start, and he's been playing like 1097 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 1: the guy that we think he's capable of being. And 1098 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: then in this game you're saying, oh, cloud coverage and 1099 00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: and and man, they were bracketing, So we don't. I've 1100 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: I've played against some of the best receivers in the 1101 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 1: National Football League, the Calvin Johnson, the Julio Jones, the 1102 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,760 Speaker 1: AJ Greens, the Antonio Browns. If cloud coverage made them 1103 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: shut it down Mitchell, they would never play. And that's 1104 00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: the that's the thing, you know. And it's a lazy 1105 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,000 Speaker 1: excuse for people to say, oh, well, he was getting 1106 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: double team. Why do you think Dak was still throwing 1107 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: him into football, because that for a guy with that 1108 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,120 Speaker 1: kind of talent, it doesn't matter. It does not matter. 1109 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,000 Speaker 1: If he's a guy with the kind of talent that 1110 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 1: he has, Dak's gonna find a way. Dak is a 1111 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: good enough player to get him the football, and that 1112 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: is why Dak targeted him. Dak sees the coverage, he 1113 00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: sees the Cloud, but he also knows this is his 1114 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: best guy and he knows what he's capable of. So 1115 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 1: when he sends him on a seven pump, he says, hey, 1116 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 1: I see the double, but I don't think that's enough 1117 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: to stop him. And that's what you agree with. When 1118 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: you see the talent that George Pickens has, you say, 1119 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: you gotta think, no matter what who's out there, double cloud, 1120 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:52,600 Speaker 1: bracket whatever, that's not enough to stop me. And I 1121 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,240 Speaker 1: think when George Pickens realizes that the league is in trouble, 1122 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: you can't you can't say, hey, I recognize I'm being bracketed, 1123 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 1: so I'm taking the playoff. That's that's that's that's wasting 1124 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: the gift, and that's the that's the reason I was frustrated. 1125 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: And I you know, we his agent, David Mulgetta, is 1126 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,600 Speaker 1: good friend of mine, and he reached out and we 1127 00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: had a conversation about it, and so everybody's on the 1128 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 1: same page. There's no there's no ill will or bad 1129 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: blood there. But I just want I want it for him, 1130 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, And you can't want it for somebody more 1131 00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: than they wanted for themselves. And I think that was 1132 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: my frustration in that game, is because everybody sees it, 1133 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: everybody sees what he can become, and it's like, oh, 1134 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: I I looked at that game and I said, I said, 1135 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,800 Speaker 1: Terry on On is on IR They got a Meek 1136 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,959 Speaker 1: Robinson Robertson and they got my guy, DJ Reed not 1137 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 1: not the biggest corners in the world. Very bad matchups 1138 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: against the George Pickens, very awful matchups, Like that's the 1139 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: kind of game, especially with Ceedee Lamb on the other side. 1140 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: You're not gonna just single Ceede Lamb and double George Pickens. 1141 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,000 Speaker 1: They've leaned safeties over the last I think that's what 1142 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs did. But I thought this was 1143 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: a game that George Pickens was going to eat and feast, 1144 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 1: and they didn't really target him early on because CD 1145 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: was was having a way. He was having his way. 1146 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 1: But once CD went out, I was like, Okay, it's 1147 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: about that time, Like they don't have a choice. They're 1148 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna have to feed it to George Pickens. And sure 1149 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 1: sure they were finding FLORIDAOI because George Pickens was allowing 1150 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 1: him to. George Pickens was pulling coverage and allowing but still, 1151 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 1: when you're a guy, coverage cannot dictate. Coverage cannot dictate 1152 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 1: whether you get that. And that's what That's what Dak 1153 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,640 Speaker 1: was saying. That's what Dak was saying, with not only 1154 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: his voice but with his reads. He didn't care that 1155 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 1: he was bracketed. He said, Hey, my guy's bracketed. My 1156 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 1: guy's better ball My guy's double team. You're doubling him. 1157 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: He's faster, he's better balled. That's why we were seeing 1158 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,240 Speaker 1: the targets that George Pickens was getting. And so when 1159 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: people were like, oh, you're just a here, like, I 1160 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: am absolutely not. I'm the exact opposite. I want. I 1161 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,880 Speaker 1: want the same thing probably everybody who's a fan of 1162 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: him wants. And I'm disappointed that we didn't get that. 1163 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: So I don't really have a response to his comments, 1164 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: but that's what I was meaning in my analysis of it. 1165 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 2: I don't mean to speak for you, but I will Richard. 1166 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever met anyone that cares 1167 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 2: more about other people's success than you. You've always been 1168 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,600 Speaker 2: a player's guy. You've always wanted guys to get paid more. 1169 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 2: You were part of the NFLPA executive committee, always driving 1170 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 2: up the salary cap as much as possible. You represented 1171 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,080 Speaker 2: yourself on the field. You try to educate other players 1172 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 2: about representing themselves and what to look out for the 1173 01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,919 Speaker 2: questions ask their agents. So, in terms of a guy 1174 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 2: that's a hater, a hater, you are not a pragmatic 1175 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 2: individual that has objective commentary. You are and you call 1176 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 2: the spade a spade. And like you said on that game, 1177 01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 2: the tape showed itself and it's your job to comment 1178 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: on it. So that's what we'll leave that, no. 1179 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Question about it, and we'll leave it there, Richard. 1180 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 2: The next game we got here at NFC North Showdown 1181 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,360 Speaker 2: and obviously my eyes are all over this game. The 1182 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Packers are hosting the red hot Chicago Bears, first place 1183 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,280 Speaker 2: in the conference. Who saw this coming, Ben Johnson at 1184 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 2: the Helm. This is a true test. I mean, we 1185 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 2: thought last week was a big time test on the 1186 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 2: road against Philly. You were there, you saw them firsthand. 1187 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 2: I think they answered a lot of questions for any 1188 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 2: of the dowters out there. And now they go on 1189 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: the road in a division battle against the Green Bay Packers. 1190 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 2: It comes down to the wire interception by your boy 1191 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 2: Keyshawn Nixon, friend of the program to seal this game. 1192 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 2: How impressed were you with the Green Bay Packers in 1193 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 2: this win. 1194 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: I was really impressed overall team effort, a lot of 1195 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 1: good things on both sides of the football. Obviously, the 1196 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,600 Speaker 1: key Shawn Nixon interception was the game sealer. You know, 1197 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people holding their breath. But it was 1198 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 1: a great battle back and forth for both teams. I mean, 1199 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: and the cold. You know, some people would say this 1200 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: is what football is about. I'm sure those players wouldn't 1201 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,920 Speaker 1: say this is what football is about freezing cold and 1202 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 1: and eight degree weather. But the teams executed at a 1203 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: high level. Teams that have a lot of respect for 1204 01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 1: one another. Jordan Love played a really good game seventeen 1205 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 1: at twenty five two thirty four, three touchdowns, did have 1206 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: the interception to CJ. Gardner Johnson, but delivered some really 1207 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 1: accurate passes. Christian Watson made some hupes plays in this game. 1208 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Only had four receptions. I thought they, you know, could 1209 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: could get in the ball a little bit more in 1210 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: the second half. Had had a great first half two touchdowns, 1211 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: but I thought, I thought that that was one of 1212 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: his best games, and I thought I thought they would 1213 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,720 Speaker 1: keep feeding him. He looked like he had a good feel. 1214 01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: They kept catching the Bears and man and man coverage 1215 01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: with TJ. Gardner Johnson on him, and they kept taking 1216 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: advantage of them every chance they got. They surprised the 1217 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Bears early on with the melting bomb for forty five 1218 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown. But you could see the chess 1219 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: match going on between these two coaches. I think Green 1220 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Bay had a great advantage early on, and then in 1221 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the second half, the Bear started to figure it out. 1222 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: They start churning yards out on the ground with Swift 1223 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 1: and Manung Gui Burden started to catch some rhythm at 1224 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,760 Speaker 1: the receiver spot. Caleb Williams was nineteen thirty five six 1225 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in that interception. I'm sure he wants that 1226 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: one back, but I really just didn't understand the call there. 1227 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, you only needed a yard. I felt like 1228 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: they wasted way too much time. They were in control, 1229 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: they had timeouts and all that, and even Tom Brady 1230 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: on the broadcast was saying, you know, you don't got 1231 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: to go too fast, but you know, got to have 1232 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sense of urgency and I 1233 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,439 Speaker 1: didn't feel like they had that, felt like they could 1234 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: have ran it, got the first down, called a time out, 1235 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,439 Speaker 1: you know, had a conversation and ran better plays down 1236 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 1: the stretch. But a learning opportunity. And I'm sure Green 1237 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 1: Bays excited because that was a hard fought, well deserved win, 1238 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: hard earned win in a division gives them control of 1239 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: this division and control of their destiny down the stretch. 1240 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: In terms of winning this division, all they gotta do 1241 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,520 Speaker 1: is is is win the games ahead of them. But again, 1242 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: they play this team again, and next time it'll be 1243 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and and that's the cool thing about division 1244 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,200 Speaker 1: games is you never know which one is gonna be 1245 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: the one that determines it. But I look forward to 1246 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,200 Speaker 1: seeing the next game as well. This was one of 1247 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,919 Speaker 1: the better games for Jordan Love and this offense. Josh 1248 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Jacobs had an unbelievable play that that really helped solidify 1249 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: and seal this game for him, where it looked like 1250 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 1: they pitched play on was it fourth and one and 1251 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: looked like they had him bottled up in the backfield 1252 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,919 Speaker 1: and he found a way to break you know, four 1253 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: unblocked bears and Josh Jacobs and he found a way 1254 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 1: to get through, breakthrough and almost make it to the 1255 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: end zone before Bayer was able to bring him down. 1256 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 1: But this is this is a cool game. I can't 1257 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: wait to hear hear the floors comments after the game 1258 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 1: because it's you know, you heard Ben Johnson's Yeah, they 1259 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: played it over and over and over and you could 1260 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: tell that it it irritated the Packers, both the staff 1261 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: and the players. So you know, I'm sure he'll have 1262 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: something to say after the game, and he should as 1263 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: he should to the winner goes to spoils, as we 1264 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 1: always say. 1265 01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: No question about it, Richard. A couple things stand out 1266 01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,960 Speaker 2: for me specifically with the Packers. You know, this offense 1267 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 2: was stagnant against Philly as a lot of teams are. 1268 01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: You saw a little bit of the hangover of losing 1269 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 2: Tucker Craft that was gonna be a big, big, you 1270 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,280 Speaker 2: know thing for the hurdle for another jump over. And 1271 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: ultimately they got Christian Watson back off the AC onl 1272 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 2: injury and he looks like he's healthy now. He's been 1273 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,560 Speaker 2: hugely impactful three out of these four last games. You know, 1274 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 2: obviously his play against the Detroit Lions helped them seal 1275 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,000 Speaker 2: that game, and now we see it here with two touchdowns. 1276 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 2: You see Green Bay adapting. But I'm gonna hesitate to 1277 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:11,400 Speaker 2: say this, but I'm gonna say it. I like Chicago. 1278 01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, they got a heck of a team. You 1279 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 2: can see Ben Johnson evolving this team into similarly to 1280 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: how Detroit was built, right. I mean, you've got DeAndre 1281 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 2: Swift going for thirteen carries sixty three yards. He's kind 1282 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 2: of like your Jremior Gibbs. And then I know they 1283 01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 2: like Kyle Manung guy at Rutgers. This guy was a 1284 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,600 Speaker 2: force in college, was widely unrecognized because he was playing 1285 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 2: at Rutgers. And this is another David Montgomery type, the 1286 01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 2: hammer that they bring in in these goal line situations. 1287 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 2: You gotta love it if you're a Bears fan. Despite 1288 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 2: a loss, I think there's a lot of promise with 1289 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 2: this team as they close this schedule down the stretch. 1290 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough for him. I mean, that's the 1291 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 2: reality of it. They're gonna see this Packers team again 1292 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 2: at home, and then they got my Detroit Lions to 1293 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 2: finish off the season. Like you said, these scriptwriters know 1294 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 2: these games are gonna matter there is a strong probability, Richard, 1295 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 2: that that game at the end of the season might 1296 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 2: decide the destiny of both teams, whether they make to 1297 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,000 Speaker 2: the playoffs or not. We'll see how it plays out, 1298 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:14,640 Speaker 2: but the NFC playoff race is a wild one. And 1299 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 2: then let's go to your side of the country, the 1300 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 2: NFC West. The La Rams prove why they are at 1301 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 2: the top of a lot of folks power ranks. Despite 1302 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 2: the loss last week. They take care of the Arizona 1303 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals with absolutely no problem forty five to seventeen. We 1304 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 2: saw a lot of Blake Korham in this game. Twelve 1305 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 2: rushes for one hundred and twenty eight yards. How impressive 1306 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,720 Speaker 2: were the Rams to you in this one? They were 1307 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 2: incredibly impressive. 1308 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,840 Speaker 1: Obviously, the Cardinals haven't played well this season, but a 1309 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 1: division game is a division game, and they took care 1310 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 1: of business. Matt Stafford continues his MVP campaign. You may 1311 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: see a defensive player factor into that for the first 1312 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: time in the history of the National Football League. But 1313 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: you know they don't like to put MVPs on bad teams, 1314 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: So Miles Geared, I'm sorry, they're not gonna give it 1315 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 1: to you, bab, but Defensive Player of the Year. They 1316 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,320 Speaker 1: don't mind giving it to players on bad teams, so 1317 01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 1: they will definitely give him that award. But they it 1318 01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: was just a completely complete domination from the Rams from 1319 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 1: from start to finish. Blake corm twelve carries for one 1320 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight, two touchdowns, uh No, Kyron Williams thirteen carries 1321 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 1: for eighty four yards, and the touchdown Poolking the cool 1322 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: of seven catches for one sixty seven and and a 1323 01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Moss Randy Moss on hi top as the kids say 1324 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: in the game. But they just looked great. They this 1325 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: was one of their better offensive performances and on the 1326 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: defensive side, they looked they looked really good. You know. 1327 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 1: Obviously there's always gonna be a little things you can 1328 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:48,040 Speaker 1: correct and things you can get better at. But in 1329 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 1: the end, this is the this is what you expected 1330 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,360 Speaker 1: from the Rams in this game. It's the next couple 1331 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 1: of games that are really determine things for the Rams, 1332 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: for everybody. I mean, again, we talked about the scriptwriters, 1333 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 1: talked about the schedule writers for the National Football League. 1334 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: Your the Rams have your Lions coming up. That's gonna 1335 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 1: be a huge game for both teams. Both teams have 1336 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,320 Speaker 1: to have that win. If the Rams lose that game, 1337 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,960 Speaker 1: and then they got Seattle the next week, pretty much 1338 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,400 Speaker 1: with with with for what could be the one seed, 1339 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,439 Speaker 1: you know, the one seeds flipping and flopping every week 1340 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,600 Speaker 1: because of the teams that play. Then the Rams have 1341 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: some a little bit of a break because they have 1342 01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,680 Speaker 1: the I mean the Falcons. Uh, they have the Seahawks 1343 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 1: after that, and then they have the Falcons and Cardinals. Uh, 1344 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna look like they're gonna be picking 1345 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: pretty early in the draft this year. Still got some 1346 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 1: a solid team, but got to figure out the quarterback situation, 1347 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Gotta figure out a lot of things on defense, got 1348 01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,040 Speaker 1: to get more talented. I think they got to get 1349 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: coaching staff. I think they got pieces in place, but 1350 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: just got to continue to get better and improve in 1351 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 1: a very tough division. And that's what it looked like. 1352 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,080 Speaker 1: That's what it's looked like all year. Jacoby Brissett played 1353 01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,719 Speaker 1: a solid game two seventy one, two touchdowns and the interception, 1354 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be good enough against a Rams 1355 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,600 Speaker 1: team that's gonna be competing for championship. 1356 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,200 Speaker 2: This year, it's been a downward slide for the Arizona 1357 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,920 Speaker 2: call Cardinals since they lost James Connor. Really, but I mean, 1358 01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 2: on the bright side of things, they do look like 1359 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 2: they have a good stud wide receiver. We thought this 1360 01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 2: would be Marvin Harrison Junior, but it's your Stanford Cardinal alum, 1361 01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,559 Speaker 2: Michael Wilson. I mean, another huge game for him today, 1362 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 2: Eleven receptions on honer and forty two yards, two touchdowns. 1363 01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 2: I know you know his game, Richard. Did you see 1364 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 2: this coming? Did you see him having this success in 1365 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,599 Speaker 2: the NFL like he showed over the last three four weeks. 1366 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just needs an opportunity, and I hope he's 1367 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,879 Speaker 1: able to get to a team that you know, features 1368 01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: him more than what he's been featured in Arizona because 1369 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 1: obviously they believe Marvin Harrison Junior is the guy, and 1370 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: so that's where they, you know, put more most of 1371 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: their energy in their game playing around. But I think 1372 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Michael Wilson can do it. I think he can play 1373 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: at a high level. I think he can be really 1374 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: effective in this league, a thousand yard receiver, maybe even 1375 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yard receiver in the right offense. And I 1376 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 1: think that's important because he's showing what he's capable of 1377 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: in the time where you know, not a lot of 1378 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,280 Speaker 1: people are watching, but I think NFL teams like San 1379 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,719 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers should be watching and paying close 1380 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 1: attention because I think that's a guy that can help them, 1381 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,479 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, I mean just about any team. You know, 1382 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,880 Speaker 1: A big, strong receiver that can that can get the 1383 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: job done at a high level is valuable in any offense. 1384 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: So I think he'll have a market this offseason, and 1385 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 1: hopefully if the Arizona Cardinals don't want to feature him 1386 01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,200 Speaker 1: like like they need to, somebody else will come get. 1387 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: Him, There's no question about it. In the final game 1388 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 2: of the weekend at least that we're going to cover 1389 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 2: is the Denver Broncos. You know, they're they're in a 1390 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,040 Speaker 2: tight race with the New England Patriots for the top 1391 01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 2: of the AFC. But one team to me just looks 1392 01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 2: a lot more impressive than the other, and that's the 1393 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 2: New England Patriots. The Broncos won again on the road, 1394 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,719 Speaker 2: twenty four to seventeen, and you know what, they control 1395 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 2: this entire game. The score did not dictate, you know 1396 01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,000 Speaker 2: how much Denver dominated, But I think a lot of 1397 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 2: teams dominate these Las Vegas Raiders. That being said, you know, 1398 01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 2: bownecks thirty one to thirty eight, incredibly efficient for two 1399 01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 2: hundred and twelve yards, had a rushing touchdown. We expected 1400 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 2: the Broncos to win, but Richard, I candidly I expect 1401 01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 2: them to blow this team out and then it didn't 1402 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:20,840 Speaker 2: do that eleven and two. I guess they've earned that record. 1403 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 2: But on its surface, do you see this team as 1404 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:25,960 Speaker 2: the cream of the crop in the AFC? 1405 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the NFC is. I 1406 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: mean AFC is wide open, and I think anybody who 1407 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 1: says anything else is full than themselves. I think it's 1408 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: wide open. You get to the playoffs and I'm really 1409 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: not sure who's gonna win each game. I think it's 1410 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 1: going to be some intriguing matchups, no question about it. 1411 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,560 Speaker 1: But I look forward to seeing how the Broncos do 1412 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: next week when they have to play back, when they 1413 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: have to play the Green Bay Packers. I think that's 1414 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,200 Speaker 1: a game that's going to determine a lot for both 1415 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,360 Speaker 1: teams to really good defenses in past rushes, a young 1416 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 1: quarterback in bow Knicks who's still figuring it out, Sean 1417 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:10,200 Speaker 1: Payton's at the helm. But we'll see, we'll see, we'll 1418 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,760 Speaker 1: see who's able to come out victorious. The Packers just 1419 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:18,320 Speaker 1: had a really physical division game, and I think they'll 1420 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 1: look at things from this this Raiders tape and understand 1421 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,000 Speaker 1: that this this Broncos offense isn't is it is. They 1422 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 1: aren't world beaters, you know, and they they can be stopped, 1423 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 1: bone knicks can be stopped. I like Harvey, but I 1424 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 1: think I don't think there's anything about this Broncos offense 1425 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: that scares defenses. And I think if you if, if 1426 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Haffley, I'm looking to be really aggressive, uh 1427 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 1: and go after this young quarterback and see if we 1428 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: can get him to make a mistake. And on the 1429 01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: other side, I think, I still think that this pass 1430 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: rush is one of the best in the National Football League, 1431 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna have a chance. But uh, 1432 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: and again one of the best coiners in the National 1433 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: Football League, and Patrick certain this defense is gonna give 1434 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers some trouble. So it's gonna be 1435 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: a great game overall. I look forward to see it. 1436 01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 2: Oh question, and then one team on Bay we got 1437 01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,960 Speaker 2: to cover him, We got several listeners, and it's San 1438 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,439 Speaker 2: Francisco that we love so deeply, Richard. I know San 1439 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,040 Speaker 2: Franz on by. They got the Titans next week, and 1440 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,679 Speaker 2: then they close out at the Colts, who are without 1441 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, the Bears, a team that you've seen firsthand, 1442 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 2: and then of course the Seattle Seahawks. They're sitting in 1443 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 2: sixth place right now in the NFC. They got the 1444 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Titans next week. I don't want to jump to conclusions, 1445 01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 2: but I think that's all win ten and four and 1446 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 2: then they finish up at the Colts and then hosting 1447 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 2: the Bears and Seahawks. They could win this division. Richard, 1448 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,519 Speaker 2: And I knew you said early on we predict, you 1449 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 2: predicted prior to the start of this year that it 1450 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 2: would come down to a battle in that last game 1451 01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 2: for the division against Seattle. And you're looking pretty darn 1452 01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 2: smart right now. What do you think of the San 1453 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers chances down the stretch. 1454 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I feel really good about them, and I'm sure the 1455 01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:06,559 Speaker 1: San Francisco feel The forty nine ers, uh faithful, feel 1456 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,519 Speaker 1: really good based off what happened in this week, and 1457 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: and you look at the unfortunate things that happened. The 1458 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Colts lose their their quarterback to an injury. Now there 1459 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 1: you're facing an entirely different offense with without Daniel Jones 1460 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: at the helm. 1461 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 1462 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 1: Obviously they still have Jonathan Taylor incredibly effective, but that 1463 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: changes the way you game plan form. You you're gonna 1464 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna force the young rookie quarterback to beat you 1465 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 1: in that game. You know, Sauce Gardner's out for that team. 1466 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 1: So a number of things have happened that that just 1467 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: changed the dynamics of some of these games. Again, I 1468 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,080 Speaker 1: think they can beat the Tennessee Titans. Uh. I think 1469 01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great game between the San Francisco 1470 01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 1: forty nine ers in the Seattle Seahawks at the end 1471 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,120 Speaker 1: of the season. Uh. I believe they played the Chicago 1472 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: Bears as well, another game that's gonna be a doll 1473 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: fight for this team. So yeah, there's there's every possibility 1474 01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: in the world for this team to to win this division. 1475 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: But there's it's unpredictable. Uh And anybody that thinks they 1476 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: can predict this uh is I'd love to see their method, 1477 01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,160 Speaker 1: the method to their madness, because it's simply madness. Right 1478 01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 1: now in the National Football League, a ton of parody. 1479 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Unexpected things are happening every week. You never expect the 1480 01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,880 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers to beat the l A Rams the way 1481 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,040 Speaker 1: they did. You you don't expect so many things to 1482 01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:27,599 Speaker 1: happen that are consistently happening this season. So it's anybody's 1483 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: guest who wins this division. It's there's a huge game 1484 01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 1: next week, obviously, between the Rams and the Lions, and 1485 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,879 Speaker 1: the Rams in the Seahawks. Those the way, the results 1486 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,160 Speaker 1: of those games will have a huge impact on the 1487 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 1: overall standings at the end. So I can't say, oh, man, 1488 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: I know the Rams are gonna win this or the 1489 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Seahawks is gonna win this, and then this is gonna happen. 1490 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,120 Speaker 1: You just never know. And if the if the San 1491 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers can beat the Titans and then 1492 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 1: beat the Colts, and then if they find a way 1493 01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,840 Speaker 1: to beat the Bears, woe Nelly. You know, woe Nelly. 1494 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 1: You're looking at it and credible seasoning. I mean you 1495 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 1: got to be looking at Kyle Shana and for a 1496 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year, I really, I know there's no 1497 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 1: way you don't give it to Mike Rabel. But the 1498 01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,280 Speaker 1: circumstances are so unique this season for the San Francisco 1499 01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, it's hard not to keep looking at 1500 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 1: this team, especially if they look up. If you look 1501 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 1: up and they're one of the top three seeds in 1502 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 1: the NFC, You're like, how how did you do that 1503 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 1: without some of your best players? You know, in in 1504 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,920 Speaker 1: in uniform. You got some of the best players in 1505 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 1: the National Football League on crutches and on the sideline 1506 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 1: and in the stands watching his team play, and you're 1507 01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,679 Speaker 1: still able to win football games. So I think there's 1508 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: something to be said there. But uh, it's a it's 1509 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,679 Speaker 1: a it's a great it. It's gonna be a great finish. 1510 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a photo finish for sure. 1511 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,920 Speaker 2: Well, we got to have an agreement between Northern California 1512 01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: and the Pacific Northwest. You guys are all big time 1513 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions fans next weekend as we take on your, 1514 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 2: I guess biggest rival, the l A Rams. So it's 1515 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,559 Speaker 2: all let's all root for Detroit Lions victory. 1516 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: All odds and lines come from our partners at hard 1517 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 1: Rock that we've got the Eagles at the Chargers on 1518 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,160 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football tomorrow. Hard Rock has the Eagles as 1519 01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:16,519 Speaker 1: a two point spread in this game. I think that's 1520 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,840 Speaker 1: a low light. I think with the way their pass 1521 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,360 Speaker 1: rush gets home in the struggles that the Chargers offensive 1522 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,799 Speaker 1: line has the big time injuries obviously to both tackles, 1523 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,759 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles can pull away, but obviously Vegas 1524 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:36,439 Speaker 1: doesn't agree with me. But how you feeling, Mitchell man Richard. 1525 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 2: Once the Lions lost to the Eagles, I thought, hey, man, 1526 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 2: maybe this Eagles team is really gonna go back to back. 1527 01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,240 Speaker 2: But then the last couple weeks what I've seen, Man, 1528 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,400 Speaker 2: I just don't know if I'm a believer in them. 1529 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,639 Speaker 2: I think offensively they're sputtering, but they're playing indoors in LA. 1530 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,120 Speaker 2: I think the Chargers are gonna win this game. I 1531 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,040 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be close. I think the Eagles offense 1532 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,440 Speaker 2: is going to have some sick sss and the sunshine, 1533 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,680 Speaker 2: but ultimately I think the Chargers are gonna win. That 1534 01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 2: being said, I got Davonte smith, Sakwon Barkley, who's much 1535 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 2: needed to have a good game, and Lad McConkie all 1536 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 2: getting in the end zone. That's my three picks as 1537 01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,360 Speaker 2: anytime touchdown scores. 1538 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,439 Speaker 1: As always, we appreciate you joining us. You could be 1539 01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,080 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, but you here with us, and 1540 01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,439 Speaker 1: we surely do appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, Thank 1541 01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 1: you to everybody who helped us get to two hundred 1542 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 1: thousand subscribers. 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