WEBVTT - Buck’s First Thoughts - 12/15/20

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome my friends to the Buck Sexton Show. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>taking a victory lap yesterday because the Electoral College has

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<v Speaker 1>certified his win and we have to take stock of

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<v Speaker 1>where we are right now in response to this, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that everyone needs to understand there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of frustration here. There's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of agitation because, yes, we know there was fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we know that the Democrats stack the deck in

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<v Speaker 1>their favor with the elimination of anti fraud safeguards using

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen as an excuse. But the process is continuing

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<v Speaker 1>on and with each passing week now it's favoring Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just an objective reality that we're dealing with. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there the possibility that there will be some last minute case,

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<v Speaker 1>that something will come up that we'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>finally prove definitively that there was systematic and intentional fraud,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of proof that even a weak will, even

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<v Speaker 1>a cowardly judge would have to say for fear of

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<v Speaker 1>shaming his profession or her profession, would have to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're correct, this is fraud. We cannot certify the results

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<v Speaker 1>in these states. Yes, it is possible. Is it likely?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you all know the answer to that. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden now is feeling like he is inevitable that this

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<v Speaker 1>is over, this is done with. We can continue, you

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<v Speaker 1>know that old you can walk and chew gum. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, we can continue to look for that fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>We can dive into the Antrim County autopsy report from

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<v Speaker 1>the voting machines, right the deep dive that they did.

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<v Speaker 1>I read it last night. I'm curious to see what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be done with it. I'm sure the DOJ

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<v Speaker 1>is aware of it. I'm sure that this is being

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<v Speaker 1>looked at. Now. Being looked at is not the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing as action taken on. But I believe that there

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<v Speaker 1>are people who are going to read this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>take a look at whether or not it changes the

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<v Speaker 1>certification in a place like Michigan. But we have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and also understand that Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for his administration at this point, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>likely what we are going to face, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be heat that I get for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that people don't want to hear this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell you that I will speak the truth

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<v Speaker 1>to you as I see it, and I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>this is the objective truth right now. It is a future,

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<v Speaker 1>It is an issue of the future. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>prediction in a sense. Right the future has not happened yet,

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<v Speaker 1>to borrow from the Terminator films, the future is not

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<v Speaker 1>yet set. But we need to understand what the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the numbers tells us right now and prepare accordingly,

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<v Speaker 1>including making sure that we focus on the race right

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of us here in Georgia, because a Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>with the House and the Senate in Democrat control is

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<v Speaker 1>a very different thing than a Biden administration with divided Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>With a divided Congress, they're going to have to prop

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<v Speaker 1>up this really buffoonish, clownish and yes, corrupt fellow and

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<v Speaker 1>spend a tremendous amount of time and energy and resources

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure the American people don't see for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves this is the clown that we've elected. Really this guy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of you would say you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>elect him, but if he becomes president, then he is

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<v Speaker 1>technically the guy. And so we look at this now

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<v Speaker 1>and we say, what could we do in preparation, what

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<v Speaker 1>could we do to get ready for this? Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you this much. A lot of what they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying about Trump will be true or would be

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<v Speaker 1>true about a Biden administration. A lot of it would

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<v Speaker 1>be accurate. For example, when they talked about state media

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<v Speaker 1>under Trump, they would say this, They really would only

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<v Speaker 1>say this as a knock on Fox News. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was consistent in pointing out that state media would indicate

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<v Speaker 1>that there's only really one acceptable media point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean true state media. Some places have a government,

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of quasi government or government Oregon, but usually

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<v Speaker 1>if there's an actual state media apparatus, the opposition is

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<v Speaker 1>at a minimum tiny, right, the opposition is small. In

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<v Speaker 1>this country, we had the opposite. We had ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of journos out there, and of them anti the administration,

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<v Speaker 1>and they advanced their careers despite what they said, Despite

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<v Speaker 1>what Jim Acosta would pretend when you go to the

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<v Speaker 1>White House, you know they were not doing the journalistic

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent of storming the beaches of normandy, they were advancing

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<v Speaker 1>their careers, they were becoming more famous, they were fattening

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<v Speaker 1>their paychecks. So in no way, whatsoever, in no way

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<v Speaker 1>do we see this now and have any reason to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Joe Biden will be anything other than absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>coddled and propped up and assisted by the media. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. And you're going to hear a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of empty rhetoric from Biden himself but also from

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<v Speaker 1>the people around him, because this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the most incredible emperor has no closed situation you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>The emperor is too old, he's incompetent, and he's corrupt.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're going to tell you that this is great.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be this amazing restaurant ration of America

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<v Speaker 1>that happens. You know that's a fraud. You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. The amount of lies that you are likely

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<v Speaker 1>to be told in the next ninety days alone will

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<v Speaker 1>surpass anything you've ever seen before. Because now the media

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even really pretend there's no objectivity. They picked a team,

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<v Speaker 1>He's their team. This is what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's what Biden was saying yesterday on the one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>calling for unity, calling to bring us all together, and

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<v Speaker 1>then trashing Trump play eighteen. By his own standards, these

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<v Speaker 1>numbers represent it a clear victory then, and I respectfully

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<v Speaker 1>suggest they do so now. If anyone didn't know before,

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<v Speaker 1>they know now. What beats deep in the hearts of

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<v Speaker 1>the American people is this democracy, the right to be heard,

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<v Speaker 1>to have your vote counted, to choose leaders of this nation,

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<v Speaker 1>to govern ourselves in America. Politicians don't take power. People

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<v Speaker 1>grant power to them. The flame of democracy was lit

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<v Speaker 1>in this nation a long time ago, and we now

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<v Speaker 1>know nothing, not even a pandemic or an abusive power,

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<v Speaker 1>can extinguish that flame. An abusive power. What was the

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<v Speaker 1>abusive power again? Bringing lawsuits, something that they did endlessly

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<v Speaker 1>and in bad faith against Trump to slow him down.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the courts are bad. Understand that we are

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<v Speaker 1>not only going into a post journalism area with the Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>we're also going into a post principle era. Whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, whatever stands in their way, they'll just discard.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have to make any show of really caring

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<v Speaker 1>what you think anymore. This is about the raw exercise

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<v Speaker 1>of political power. They think they will have achieved it

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<v Speaker 1>through this, and look at what they did to get here.

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's talking about democracy and how beautiful a thing it

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<v Speaker 1>is now because he likes the outcome for him as

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<v Speaker 1>it stands so far. The rest of us stand around saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys changed the rules in an election year by

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<v Speaker 1>hyperventilating about and exaggerating about the threat of COVID nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>only as it pertains of course, to voting in person,

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<v Speaker 1>not to having blm rallies in the streets, not to

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<v Speaker 1>any number of other activities that are Democrat approved, but

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<v Speaker 1>voting no that required enormous shifts in the actual mail

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<v Speaker 1>in balloting process and transforming the process in the year

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<v Speaker 1>of the election and using it to the absolute maximum advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do at some level blame Republicans, who are

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the ones on guard against this blocking this.

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<v Speaker 1>I blame them for not doing more in advance, for

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<v Speaker 1>not seeing this train coming down the tracks. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Pelosi and the other Libs we're going all

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<v Speaker 1>out with the crazy post office conspiracy over the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something that now we have to learn from.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope going forward, no matter what or what we

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<v Speaker 1>end up finding out here about the fraud. I will

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<v Speaker 1>continue to look at every allegation, every bit of evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that is presented here by the Trump legal team, by

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who comes forward and has proof of fraud. We

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<v Speaker 1>owe that to the country. But we also need to

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<v Speaker 1>be ready for what is coming now. And you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to see an administration that has the full and

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<v Speaker 1>open partisan backing of the social media companies, the entirety

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<v Speaker 1>of the journalistic media apparatus in its pocket, big government

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<v Speaker 1>and big business working hand in glove, not shedding any

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<v Speaker 1>tears for the destruction, the wanton, reckless destruction of small

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<v Speaker 1>businesses across the country as a result of these preposterous lockdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna see any any tears over that. They

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<v Speaker 1>like this advantage that they have. The eradication of small

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<v Speaker 1>business is something that Democrats aren't particularly upset about either.

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<v Speaker 1>Every business that's independently owned and operated is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a pushback against central planning. So they prefer

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<v Speaker 1>that they just have Amazon and Google and these megacorporations

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<v Speaker 1>calling all the shots and making sure they go in

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<v Speaker 1>favor of the Democrats. And we're gonna be up against

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<v Speaker 1>an administration that has already shown us again, assuming that

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<v Speaker 1>this pathway continues, but we have to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>path that is before us. We're going to have an

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<v Speaker 1>administration that is already compromised by China, our chief geopolitical rival.

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<v Speaker 1>They lied about Russia collusion with Trump and pretended that

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<v Speaker 1>Russia was a much greater threat than it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>in fact what they were saying about about Russia is

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<v Speaker 1>true of China. It has infiltrated our government apparatus, it

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<v Speaker 1>has been stealing our most sensitive information and secrets for years,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has compromised the would be first family very

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<v Speaker 1>directly and very obviously. So this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous challenge. I hope that no matter what, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and all of his chief advisors and supporters will

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<v Speaker 1>come together and face this as one. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, the electoral College. It is now President

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<v Speaker 1>elect Biden as of now. I understand that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me it's a fraud, and I share your sentiment,

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<v Speaker 1>I share your outrage. But this is where we are now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, we trust the process. The process is

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<v Speaker 1>not over, but we are taking stock of this today.

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<v Speaker 1>We have our work cut out for us. Friends, We

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<v Speaker 1>have a Georgia election to win. We have judges that

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<v Speaker 1>should be getting at last minute here pushed through as

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<v Speaker 1>many federal judges as possible. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>heck is going on with the Republicans thinking that they

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<v Speaker 1>can take it easy, and we have to start to

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument against what will be a bid administration

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<v Speaker 1>that has a lot of support from very powerful people.

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<v Speaker 1>And you will be told that what you know is

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<v Speaker 1>not true and what you know is and so you

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<v Speaker 1>got to relearn that part of it. Get ready for this. Friends,

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<v Speaker 1>we are in this together. We will eventually win. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a question of when. Thanks for listening to The

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest news and information

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<v Speaker 1>from Buck by heading to Bucksexton dot com. Four years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a city and Vice president of the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, it was my responsibility to announce the tally

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<v Speaker 1>the Electric College votes the Joint Session of Congress and

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<v Speaker 1>voted to elect Don't Trump. I did my job, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pleased but not surprised. But the number of my

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<v Speaker 1>former Republican colleagues in the Senate who have acknowledged already

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<v Speaker 1>the results of the Electoral College, I thank them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm convinced we can work together for the good of

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<v Speaker 1>the nation on many subjects. That's the duty go to

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<v Speaker 1>the people, to our constitution, to our history. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in this battle for the soul of America, democracy prevailed.

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<v Speaker 1>We the people voted, faith in our institutions held. The

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<v Speaker 1>integrity of our elections remains intact. And now it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to turn the page, as you've done throughout our history,

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<v Speaker 1>to unite to heal. Yeah, he sounds like he's in

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<v Speaker 1>great shape, doesn't he. Everything's gonna be just fine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a great present. It's gonna be a great presidency, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>all all eighteen months or so of it, before he

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<v Speaker 1>decides he's had enough. Although you know, I will say

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of us underestimated. You know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's fair to say I underestimated Joe Biden. I underestimated

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrat willingness to put forward a clownish buffoon, but

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<v Speaker 1>to create a package of a Biden administration that they

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<v Speaker 1>were able to sell to enough people that they thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was gonna be much better. Look, the Trump't arrangement

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<v Speaker 1>syndrome that they spread all of the media, spread all

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. It certainly had an effect. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a lot a lot of people. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Biden, let's say Joe Biden cheated just theoretically

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<v Speaker 1>though I don't want to anyone to fact check me

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<v Speaker 1>on this, but let's say Joe Biden had had his

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<v Speaker 1>team add a half a million votes to the tally.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that this guy still got the eighty million

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<v Speaker 1>votes roughly that he is mind blowing, this clown, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy whose son is getting spare keys made for him

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<v Speaker 1>to open up the office where they're gonna be peddling

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<v Speaker 1>influence to the Chinese Communist Party when he's not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting strippers knocked up and pretending he's not the dad

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<v Speaker 1>and doing all kinds of you know, I mean, come,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, it's gonna be president. Maybe maybe I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's not until he's sworn in. I mean, folks, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to know what will be the At what

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<v Speaker 1>point do you think that it's no longer an issue

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<v Speaker 1>of having a backbone for the fight to call in there?

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<v Speaker 1>Do we wait? I will ask some folks this because

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<v Speaker 1>I know today just by me saying, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>take stock of where we are and be honest about this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people are gonna email me and say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't have enough stomach for the fight,

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, and I just want to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to them what I've been saying. Fight every step of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But at some point, you know, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>we're the team that's staying behind on the field, at

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<v Speaker 1>least for this particular game, when the other team is left,

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<v Speaker 1>they're waving a trophy in the air, and the stands

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<v Speaker 1>have emptied out, and the lights, you know, the field

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<v Speaker 1>lights are getting turned off. It is it the inauguration day?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I think that there's going to be an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps to bring action against Joe Biden and against some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other some of the Democrats who are involved

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<v Speaker 1>in Russia collusion, for example, based on the Durham probe.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's possible. I wouldn't say it's likely at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I always tell you no one can predict the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously not a lot of US conservatives can. I really

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<v Speaker 1>believed in my heart that Trump was gonna win, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if only legal ballots were countered, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Trump did win. But I can't change this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't change this. I mean, I wish that I

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<v Speaker 1>had the resources and the ability to go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and find all this fraud and piece it all together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to tell you though, the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>claiming that, don't worry. It's still in the bag. There's

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<v Speaker 1>the plan release the crack in. They're not being honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you. They're not being straight with you. The best,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest earliest Trump supporters that I know, people that

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<v Speaker 1>I won't name because I've talked to them in confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ones that I know, they'll say offline, yeah, look,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not it's not looking good. But we fight

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<v Speaker 1>this to the end. That's where I am. I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's deal with what's ahead of us. Continue to

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<v Speaker 1>push see where this Antrim County audit, the forensic electronic

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<v Speaker 1>audit really goes, and understand that there's a lot. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that we have here that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>focus on. And I am very concerned about the trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>of the US versus China under a possible Biden administration now,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know is this is something that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to regain our focus here pretty quickly because they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>want to hit the ground running. We are weeks away

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<v Speaker 1>from an inauguration that the media is going to treat

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<v Speaker 1>as a total reset. And remember, our freedoms are under

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<v Speaker 1>assault because of COVID and ways that are unimaginable. We

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<v Speaker 1>have an enormous challenge ahead of us with the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party, and we've got a buffoon in Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be the one calling the shots. If

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<v Speaker 1>this trend can continues, you're in the freedom hunt. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Buck Sexton Show podcast from More Bucked. Head

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<v Speaker 1>to Bucksexton dot com and remember to subscribe to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the Michigan voting machine audit. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that the President of the United States, Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>was sharing this earlier today. This is what he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>is going on here, and we should at least follow

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<v Speaker 1>what the actual commander in chief is saying about all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. He wrote on Twitter at quote sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent ararated Michigan voting machines should be by law a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny percentage of one percent? Did the Michigan Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State break the law? Stay tuned? And then tremendous problems

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<v Speaker 1>being found with voting machines. They are so far off

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<v Speaker 1>it is ridiculous able to take a landslide victory and

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<v Speaker 1>reduce it to a tight loss. This is not what

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<v Speaker 1>the usay is all about. Law enforcement shielding machines do

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<v Speaker 1>not tamper a crime. Much more to come? Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what the much more to come is. As

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<v Speaker 1>as I've been telling you all along, I want more information,

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<v Speaker 1>I want more data, more evidence. There's no there is

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<v Speaker 1>no part of me that is saying, oh if we

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<v Speaker 1>find out right and think of there's almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>murder investigation, all right, you can you can know that

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<v Speaker 1>someone did the murder. You could know that someone did

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<v Speaker 1>the murder as a law enforcement person. But you can't

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<v Speaker 1>hold them while you're gathering all the evidence if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you have not yet you know, charged them with

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<v Speaker 1>the crime, right, you can't just hold them. You're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we think it's you, but we don't have the evidence

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<v Speaker 1>yet to go and get an arrest warrant, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that, so we're just gonna hold you until

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<v Speaker 1>we find all of it. No, you got to release

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<v Speaker 1>the person, even if you know, even if you know

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<v Speaker 1>that they're probably guilty, but you don't have the proof yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to release them. That doesn't mean, though, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't come back to it later. So let's see, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see what we're able to pull together here. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from people who are not just the Trump legal team,

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<v Speaker 1>but are independently trying to assess and pull together all

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<v Speaker 1>the data. You know. Remember, it's one thing to show

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<v Speaker 1>that it's almost impossible statistically for Trump to have lost

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these places, but almost impossible without proof

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<v Speaker 1>of the intentional fraud. Is not going to be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to get a judge to say that there was cheating here.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not the same thing as saying there was

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<v Speaker 1>no cheating, right, So this is what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the process and the system and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make us all understand what's really happening, what's unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>before us right now. And it's infuriating, but it is

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. So Trump is saying that they found

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<v Speaker 1>these problems. We'll see what ends up happening. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I've also told you, affidavits not going to be enough,

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be enough. You and I can sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and have a conversation about how affidavits are these are.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I believe them? Yes? I do. Do I think

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<v Speaker 1>that these people are telling the truth. Yeah, But is

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<v Speaker 1>a judge going to say, well, this person saw a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand ballots that it's inexplicable how they all went for Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm going to invalidate then the hundred thousand ballots

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<v Speaker 1>that were counted that day at that election site. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do that. The judge is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. So, as I've been telling you, the

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<v Speaker 1>the affidavits are not enough. And look, I know if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong about any of this, I'll come back and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that I'm wrong. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 1>there are people out there right now who are just

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<v Speaker 1>squabbling from the from the scraps or for the scraps

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<v Speaker 1>from the Trump train, and it's really just about them.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't there's no interest in then being honest with

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<v Speaker 1>people because they don't want they don't want to shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the messenger phenomenon to happen right now, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Electoral College met yesterday and it is now, it

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<v Speaker 1>is now President elect Joe Biden. That's that's where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>And I spit out the words too, but I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that those of you who are joining me here understand

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<v Speaker 1>that we gotta face this. We gotta face it. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't hide from it, can't run from it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what we're dealing with. And you also have the resignation

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<v Speaker 1>of Attorney General bar that occurred yesterday. And let me

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<v Speaker 1>say this, I have been a big proponent of the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General. I think that he's an excellent legal mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a good and ethical man, and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand there's a lot of frustration right now about both

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<v Speaker 1>the Durham probe and the election. A few things here. One,

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<v Speaker 1>he appointed Durham. Durham's a guy running that probe, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't there's no way for the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General that I'm aware of, to say you need to

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<v Speaker 1>speed this thing up. That could be considered undue interference,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be considered politicization. So he handed this off

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody who's supposed to be a very dogged and

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<v Speaker 1>thorough prosecutor. Well, I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>finding that its prosecutors are just lawyers. They're just lawyers.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not some you know, factory of superheroes somewhere that's

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<v Speaker 1>churning out great folks will then all become prosecutors, right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's bad prosecutors, good prosecutors, and so the Durham probe

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<v Speaker 1>is frustrating. But I also never really believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>would that they would hold to full account members of

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<v Speaker 1>the deep state. They're too powerful. There's there's too many

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<v Speaker 1>connections here among them. And then you have the frustration

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<v Speaker 1>over bar and the election, and I just he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a judge. And I know this is not maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>popular thing to say right now, but he's not a judge.

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<v Speaker 1>What is he supposed to do here? People who say

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<v Speaker 1>that the DOJ is not looking at these allegations, I

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<v Speaker 1>have it. I have it on very good authority that

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<v Speaker 1>they are looking at these allegations and they are presenting

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<v Speaker 1>they are presenting this information up the chain, and that

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<v Speaker 1>it's exactly what I've been saying. The Democrats removed the

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<v Speaker 1>safeguards to be able to prove the fraud so we

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<v Speaker 1>can keep running around. I understand there's this frustration people

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<v Speaker 1>are It's like they're banging on the wall here saying,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was fraud. I'm saying, I know, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to prove it or judges will

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<v Speaker 1>not do anything about it. This is where we are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if you had a burglary and and somebody

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody pulled all of the alarms and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the video cameras out of the room, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the you know, the diamond necklace is gone.

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<v Speaker 1>You can talk about how it was stolen, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't show any proof, no one's going to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm trying to tell you. And other people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't going to tell you that now, they're gonna say, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the kracking is just waiting on the sign the no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not, it's not. I'm every bit as frustrated as

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<v Speaker 1>you are. I think the four years of a Trump

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<v Speaker 1>presidency was going to be four more years, was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fantastic for us. We're gonna have a great

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one booming economy. Maybe maybe we still get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not looking good, not looking good at all. Now. A. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Barr resigned. This the last thing that the President said

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<v Speaker 1>about him. I think should be remembered here because there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot of people that are trashing the attorney general.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think there are people who worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration at a very senior level. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>are people who were completely incompetent, bad at their jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and deserve to be fired. I think James Comey obviously

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<v Speaker 1>deserved to be fired and sent to prison. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what Donald Trump wrote yesterday about the Attorney general. Just

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<v Speaker 1>had a very nice meeting with Attorney General Bill Barr

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House. Our relationship has been a very

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<v Speaker 1>good one. He's done an outstanding job. As per letter,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill will be leaving just before Christmas to spend the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays with his family. So there's the President saying, look

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<v Speaker 1>I like this guy, and he's stepping down, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's not you know, he's not some deep state stuge.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the enemy of the people or any of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. He probably just realized he's in an unwinnable situation.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just gonna get blamed for things by people who

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<v Speaker 1>understand that there was fraud in this election. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has not. You know, the Attorney General has not been

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<v Speaker 1>able to find enough of it, nor have they been

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<v Speaker 1>able to present evidence in a federal court of it

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<v Speaker 1>to change the result. So he's in a losing position

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<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't and he just figures, okay, look, have

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<v Speaker 1>someone else do this. I get it. It's a thankless,

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<v Speaker 1>a thankless role right now. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to be very clear. The president sent him. This

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<v Speaker 1>is like being you know, honorably discharged. President said nice

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<v Speaker 1>things about him on the way out. The president doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>always do that, as you know. So this is the

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General saying, all right, I've done what I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's somebody better who can step up and do this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go home with my family for Christmas. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all it is. And I think the Attorney General did

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<v Speaker 1>a solid job. You freed, of course, disagree with me

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<v Speaker 1>on that, but I think that overall the Attorney General

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was an ethical guy. And for those of you who

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>were going to really get mad at me, let me

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>just say Bill Barr was considered a stooge and a

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<v Speaker 1>hatchetman by the media of Trump until five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So something happened here. And it's not that the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General all of a sudden became some deep state operative, right,

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>That's not what happened. What happened is we've got a

0:27:31.400 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>very frustrating election result, and there's a lot of blame

0:27:34.960 --> 0:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>going around right now, and including the people that don't

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>deserve it. You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get more from Buck by following

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>him on social media at buck Sexton on Facebook, Twitter,

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.199
<v Speaker 1>and Instagram. Let me ask you, Governor. There was an

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<v Speaker 1>allegation made over the weekend on Twitter by a former

0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>aid of yours who said that accused you of sexual

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<v Speaker 1>harassments that had happened over a period of year. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get your reaction to that. Yeah, I heard

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<v Speaker 1>about the tweet, uh, and what it's said about comments

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that I had made And it's not true, zach. Uh. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I fought for and I believe a woman has the

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<v Speaker 1>right to come forward and express her opinion and express

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>issues and concerns that she has. But it's uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not true. So he's calling her a liar. Can

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:35.760
<v Speaker 1>we can we just all agree that that's what he

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is saying, that she is a liar. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>just prefer it if he would come out and say

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<v Speaker 1>that instead of playing this game where you have him

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<v Speaker 1>say I I fought for a right to come forward

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, to say to things. But turns out

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>thought she's a big liar. Look, I don't think she's

0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>lying at all, and it's I know that you could

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>say to me, oh, but Buck, that's because he's a

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Democrat and you don't like him, and you think that

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, King Cuomo and a maniac. I don't

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>like him, and I do think he's a maniac. And

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it's terrifying that he might be a an attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>under a bid administration that's already been talked about. That

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I find that deeply concerning. But I also am willing

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>to give you my honest assessment of these things. I

0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>don't always think that these allegations, even there against Democrats

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>are true. They do tend to be true more often

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<v Speaker 1>against high profile Democrats than they are against high profile Republicans.

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that there you have noticed this, but

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not an absolute. But Cuomo is a jerk.

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>And Cuomo is a guy who you can just tell.

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>You can tell that he thinks that he can get

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>away with stuff. He's known as a bully, he's known

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>as being vindictive. It's not a nice guy. So you

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>know when they accuse Kavanaugh, who is like, you know,

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Ned Flanders went to Harvard Law School or something, or

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Yale Law School. I forget which one. And it is

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like this legal legal supermind who is coaching you know,

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>girls basketball on the weekend. Everybody loves him. They accuse

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>him of being a serial gang rapist, one of the ugliest,

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>most underhanded and disgraceful episodes in American politics in my lifetime.

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>And no intelligent person could really believe that those things

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.719
<v Speaker 1>were true, but they wanted to believe it because they

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted to stop him from being on the Supreme Court.

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Look what we're seeing the Supreme Court. Even when you

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<v Speaker 1>put constitutionalists on the left. And I'm gonna say this,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and it's annoying, but you gotta know the truth. When

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.440
<v Speaker 1>the left gets one of their judges on, they've got

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody who plays for their team. When the right gets

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 1>one of their judges on, they've got somebody who adheres

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 1>to the constitution. You can see this the left, the

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>left does not disappoint their side. They get what they want.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what an activist judge means. That's their mandate, give

0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>us what we want. Right, create a living constitution where

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you just decide that you think this is better, and

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the progressive should get their way. For the on the right,

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>constitutionalist judges they say, look, I don't like this policy

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>or I don't think this is a good idea, but

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it is constitutional, so I can't do anything about it.

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 1>You just think of all think of big cases. That's

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>what keeps happening. But bring it back to Cuomo. So

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>they'll say that boy scout Cavanaugh is a bad guy,

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know he's a rapist and all this stuff,

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's just absurd and I'm never letting that go. That,

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>in some ways was almost as radicalizing and perhaps it

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>was as radicalizing a moment for many conservatives as the

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Russia collusion lies about Trump, because it was so obviously

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>false and so vicious, and I'm never gonna forget it,

0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>never gonna forgive it either. But then you have Cuomo.

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Here's a guy who is a jerk and everyone knows it,

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and he's powermad and I believe there was actually a

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 1>domestic disturbance at his house once when he was married,

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and the police showed up, and that everyone had to

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>pretend it didn't happen. He shut down the Morelin Commission

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>in a corruption of him, just essentially by intimidating and

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, scaring everybody is a bad guy. He's just

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a bad guy, and now he's being accused of things that. Remember,

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>she didn't go overboard. She wasn't saying, oh, you know,

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 1>he drugged me and all this other stuff. I mean,

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, not that couldn't happen, but that would be

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:31.720
<v Speaker 1>a bit of that would be a pretty extreme allegation.

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>She says that he said, you know, sexist comments and

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about my appearance. And you know, if you look

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.840
<v Speaker 1>at the woman in question, I find it very credible

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that Cuomo would comment on her appearance. I don't think

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's a stretch at all. And I'm just bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this up because get ready to kind of stay with

0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 1>our prepare for the battle ahead mentality today. Get ready

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>for the double standards that we saw in the first

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>four years of Trump. Going forward under a Binden administration

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>will be just mind blowing. They won't have any standards,

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>accept double standards. They will just everything that they've said

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>in the past, whether it's about the grounds for impeachment,

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>whether it's about the Me Too movement, women have a right,

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>women have a right to be believed, was the That

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was the line, that was the claim that was made whenever,

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it was Trump or Kavanaugh, ay, any Republican was

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 1>accused of anything, and there were some people like Cosby

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and Weinstein who weren't politicians but were I guess democrats.

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Winstein's clearly a Democrat who were guilty. And so yeah,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>those women did have a right to believed because they

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>were telling the truth. But now all of a sudden,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>when it's Cuomo, they're gonna they're gonna avoid talking about

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>this story and they're gonna take his word for it,

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and they'll let him get away with the formulation that

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:02.560
<v Speaker 1>he gave you there where he's just saying, oh, yes,

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>she has a right to come forward. Well, what does

0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>that mean. We were told that she has a right

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.640
<v Speaker 1>to be believed. Hillary Clinton said about women coming forward

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>with allegations, they have a right to be believed. And

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>now we when there's a Democrat he's in trouble, all

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, now we have a Oh, I don't know,

0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we can really take that seriously anymore.

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>That's standard that we were using to try to eviscerate Republicans.

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we need to be a little more thoughtful about

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 1>how we do this. Maybe we need to be a

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 1>little more evidentiary in the way that we approached these things,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>and I sit here saying wow, no, no, no, duh,

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 1>no surprise, huh. And Cuomo is going to get away

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>with this. There will be no consequences from whatsoever Democrat

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 1>voters in New York State where I am, at least

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>for now, I don't know what it's going to take

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>them to realize this guy's a nightmare. I don't know.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'd think that at this point they would

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.080
<v Speaker 1>have figured it out, and they want anybody but him.

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>The media loves this guy. They love him so he

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>can get away with anything. And he's about to get

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.479
<v Speaker 1>away with these sexual sexual harassment allegations. That's for sure.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You're in the freedom Hunt. This is the buck Sexton

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Show podcast from more buck Head to buck sexton dot

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>com and remember to subscribe to the podcast. What are

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>we really seeing when it comes to the results of

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 1>these lockdowns and what has the data told us so

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>far about so many of these expert predictions when it

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.440
<v Speaker 1>comes to COVID nineteen and how we're supposed to handle it.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 1>We're joined out by Phil Kirpin. He's a syndicated columnist

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and also the president of American Commitment. Phil Thanks for

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 1>making the time great to be with you. Let's talk

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>about schools first. What is the data tell us about

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>school lockdowns at this stage, or I should just say

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>school closures, it's not even really lockdowns. Closing school and

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 1>doing only virtual learning probably the single biggest policy mistake

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:09.239
<v Speaker 1>of the entire year, which is hanging a lot because

0:36:09.239 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>we've had a lot of policy mistakes. It's interesting, the

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>original CDC guidance on schools was really balanced, and I

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>think anyone who actually read it and paid attention would

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>not have closed schools. And yet we had sort of

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>this panic contagion that swept the whole country and all

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the schools were closed, and a lot of them never

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 1>reopened or opened on very limited part time schedules. And

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. There was a study in the Journal of

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the American Medical Association a couple of weeks ago. They

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<v Speaker 1>looked at just the impact of elementary school closures and

0:36:36.680 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>just for two months in the spring, and they calculated

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>five million years of life lost from two months of

0:36:44.400 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>elementary school closures, which is probably more years of life

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>lost than we're going to have from the coronavirus. There's

0:36:50.840 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>a very strong relationship between educational attainment and not just income,

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>but life expectancy as well. The difference between a high

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>school graduate and high school dropout, on average is about

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>five years of life expectancy. The online learning is not

0:37:06.719 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 1>working for a lot of people. For some kids, it's fine,

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>some of them are doing okay, but a lot of

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>kids are failing. A lot more kids than ever failed

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>with traditional school, and that has major long term consequences,

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:24.200
<v Speaker 1>both economic and health consequences. And so we're essentially imposing

0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>enormous harms and enormous enormous costs on children societally, even

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>though children are atists near zero risks, certainly much lower

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>risk with coronavirus than they are from seasonal flu, which

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is five to ten times more deadly for children than coronavirus,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and that we tolerate and that we think is a

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.440
<v Speaker 1>perfectly acceptable low level of risk. And so children have

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really been the biggest losers in our policy response to COVID.

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 1>It feels increasingly feel like the elimination of any tolerable

0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 1>risk when it comes to COVID has been at the

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>same of a lot of the policies that we see

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and restaurants in New York City have just been closed

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 1>as of this week. Contact racing shown that they were

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>responsible for they believe about one percent of the spread.

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>So what are what have we learned about? Where is

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.239
<v Speaker 1>the virus spreading in New York And it's and it's

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>environs because that's a that's also a good proxy for

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.319
<v Speaker 1>where it would be spreading in other densely populated parts

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>of the country. Well, the data the New York published,

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting because they published you know, very very

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>similar data back in May and then ignored it, and

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>now they're finding the same thing again, which is almost

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>all of the spread is inside of homes, inside of households.

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:43.919
<v Speaker 1>And you know, New York of course has a lot

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of high density residential, a lot of multi family, you know,

0:38:47.280 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>apartment buildings, and so you know, maybe a little bit

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>different there and some other places, but by and large,

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's now pretty clear from the contact tracing

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>we've seen all over the country that there's not a

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of spread places like restaurants and retail and so

0:39:02.160 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 1>for the spread tends to happen sort of the one

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>to one person to person spread tends to happen inside

0:39:08.760 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 1>of homes. Now we also have this other problem of

0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>these occasional sort of super spread or events which are

0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>hard to predict, and we still don't really know why

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>some small percentage of people with this virus and it's

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>only maybe ten percent something like that seemed to be

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.920
<v Speaker 1>responsible for, you know, a lot of the spread. And

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.959
<v Speaker 1>so you know, if you got on the average person

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>gets this virus infects zero or one other people, and

0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:33.680
<v Speaker 1>then but then you've got this small group that affects

0:39:33.719 --> 0:39:35.720
<v Speaker 1>tons of people, and you know, we still don't really

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.919
<v Speaker 1>know what makes them different and why they tend to

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>infect lots of people. And I wish with more research

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we're going into that because that would be very useful

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to sort of identify and be able to predict what

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>those characteristics are. But by and large, what we saw

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in the New York did, and it was remarkable because

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Governor Cuomo came out and he said, look, here's the data.

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Seventy five percent of transmission is in homes, one percent

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>is in restaurants. So I'm closing us. And you know,

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>then he said, well, you know, because it's something we

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>can do. You know, we can't close homes, we can

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:08.920
<v Speaker 1>close restaurants. But of course, just because you can do something,

0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that it's actually you know, he said, you know,

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>it's only a small difference, but it's something we can do.

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, but if you look at the data, but

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it's more likely to be a negative difference than a

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>positive difference, because if you say, you know, we're going

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:25.759
<v Speaker 1>to push gatherings and holiday gatherings and dinners and all

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>this kind of stuff out of restaurants where people are

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 1>being very strict with their distancing and their hygiene and

0:40:31.120 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>all this stuff, we're gonna push them out. We're gonna close.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Now they're gonna take place in homes instead. You know,

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>some of them won't take place at all, but a

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of them will take place in homes instead without

0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:43.440
<v Speaker 1>any of those precautions. And so in my judgment, the

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>restaurant closure is not only economically devastating, but it's more

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.799
<v Speaker 1>likely to increase transmission than to decrease it because people

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>are going to meet in home settings instead. Well, this

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>was a concern also last winter or late late in

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the winter, when we recognize that New York City was

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 1>facing this first big wave of COVID cases. They went

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 1>into the fifteen days to stop the spread, and the

0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:09.319
<v Speaker 1>stay at home orders, and a lot of people are saying, well,

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.279
<v Speaker 1>hold on a second, We've had this virus is all

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>over the place already, and now what you're going to

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 1>be doing by shutting down the schools, shutting down anywhere

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 1>for people to places for people to go, is you

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>might actually be forcing And you mentioned multigenerational, multi family homes,

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.839
<v Speaker 1>dense housing, which is all over New York City where

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>people it's very difficult to really stay far away from others.

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>It may have effectively sent everyone home to infect their

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 1>family members inadvertently, but that was always a concern. Yeah,

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 1>I think that that almost certainly was a big part

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of what happened in New York back in the spring. Now,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the good thing you've got going for you now in

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>New York is, you know, so many people have already

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.960
<v Speaker 1>had it. You have a very high level of community immunity,

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>probably higher than anywhere else in the United States. And

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 1>so if you look at the New York state numbers,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's now mostly outside of the New York City area

0:41:58.520 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and sort of the rest of the state is kind

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of catching up New York City. If you look at

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>the hospital utilization in the emergency room data, you've actually

0:42:07.400 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>got lower emergency room visits for respiratory illnesses and influenza

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 1>like illness now than you know, any of the previous

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.600
<v Speaker 1>five years this time of year. So you're actually lower

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>than normal in New York City, I think because you've

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of community immunity to COVID and because

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>the other factor, which is happening everywhere in the world

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>right now with very little attention paid to it. There's

0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>almost no flu activity this year. And we don't know

0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>if that's because the you know, the policy measures like

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the masks and the distancing and school closures are somehow

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.759
<v Speaker 1>more effective for flu than they are for COVID, or

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 1>if the virus itself has somehow disrupted. We don't really

0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>know why it's the case, but it's a remarkable story

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>because remember the experts that we're gonna have this twindemic

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>flu is going to hit at the same time as COVID,

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>all the hospital is gonna be overwhelmed. Instead, we've got

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mildest flu season since at least twenty fifteen,

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>and maybe you know, see if it doesn't take off

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>at all, maybe the mildest flue season on records. So

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got you know, really under utilization of hospitals in

0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a place like New York City that has relatively little

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>COVID activity because we're not saying any fluid. I pulled

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>some numbers last week. I'm glad you brought that up. Phil.

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking of Phili Kirpin, syndicated columnist, journalist, and at Phil,

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I looked at the initial Now, now I had someone, right,

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I've had people right into me since to say, we're

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>not really testing for flu the way that we normally do.

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>And to that, I say, okay, because I am asking.

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, so sometimes people are asking a question and

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>they're really trying to push a conclusion. I'm actually asking

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the question. But I pose to the audience. I said,

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, the initial data on the CDC website for

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the first week of December, and and I think it

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>was it was low for what they actually had for COVID.

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 1>So this was initial data. So the numbers are clearly

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 1>going to go up, and you know, maybe it went

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.160
<v Speaker 1>from you know, maybe I might even go up by

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>a factor of ten, let's say, right, I mean, it

0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>could go up substantially, But the initial data said that

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 1>they had something like two thousand plus COVID debts in

0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the first week of December that we're officially COVID, you know,

0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 1>meaning that this is what they had three three from

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the flu. Now I can understand more COVID I could

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>under but there's clearly something going on here. I mean,

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned some of the possibilities. There's no way that

0:44:24.120 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you have almost a factor of a thousand more COVID

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:29.919
<v Speaker 1>debts than you do flu debts given what we would

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>see in a normal flu season. That's not possible. Well,

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, flue peaks are more often in January February

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 1>than they are in November and December time. Sometimes you

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 1>have in earlier flu seasons. So you know a lot

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 1>of people say, well, you know flu's not here yet,

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:48.239
<v Speaker 1>it's still coming. That might be true, but we've never

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>seen levels this low. We've never seen levels this low.

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>And if you look at the CDC flu testing data,

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:59.640
<v Speaker 1>it's down about ninety almost one hundred percent some weeks,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>and we've at like ninety eight percent reduction from the

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>five year average. And it's not that we're not testing.

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>The flu tests are actually higher than the five year average,

0:45:08.920 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're actually at a record high. At the number

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of flu tests at the CDC tracks and the CDC

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>only tracks clinical labs and public health labs, so they

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>don't track you know, like the rapid tests in the

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 1>doctor's office. That's not in the stats, so they only

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 1>have thousands of tests. They don't have millions of tests.

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 1>But it's still it indicates that I think one of

0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 1>three things is going on. Buck Either, we've got the

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>public health measures that are being implemented for some reason

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>are very effective at stopping flu, even though they don't

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>seem to be. They're not effective. It's stopping covid right right,

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>So that's a little hard to believe, although a lot

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of people have been saying that or somehow the covid

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>virus itself disrupts the flu virus, which is possible. There's

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 1>a phenomenon called viral interference, and this was actually how

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>swine flu ended back in two thousand and nine. The

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.439
<v Speaker 1>rhinovirus came in and it's sort of just knocked it out,

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, people got that instead, and it's sort of

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:01.560
<v Speaker 1>locked it out. And there was some hope. There was

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.080
<v Speaker 1>actually an article, you know, months ago, hoping that flu

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>season would come in and sort of disrupt covid that

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 1>definitely didn't happen, but maybe the opposite happened. Maybe COVID

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>disrupted flu, and you know, once you get COVID, your

0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>mucus build up blocks flu, or some mechanism causes viral interference.

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Or the third possibility is that we've got some sort

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of a data artifact where maybe you know, we're get

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:25.439
<v Speaker 1>so many false positives for COVID that people get flu,

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 1>they test false positive, it goes into the stats as

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>of COVID case instead of a flu case. Maybe there's

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a timing issue where even though we have lots of

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>flu tests, people are only taking the flu test after

0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.399
<v Speaker 1>they get a negative COVID test back, and by then

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.680
<v Speaker 1>flu is not detectable anymore. Some people have suggested that,

0:46:42.719 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>so they're basically there are three possibilities, in my judgment,

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Either the policies are actually stopping flu somehow there's actual

0:46:51.160 --> 0:46:53.479
<v Speaker 1>viral interference, or we've got some sort of a data

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 1>artifact based on the sequence and the way that we're

0:46:55.840 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 1>doing the testing that's causing the flu cases to be

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 1>mischaracterized as COVID. So it's got to be one of

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 1>those three things. I'm not sure which it is, or

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 1>if it's a combination. But I wish there were a

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>lot more curiosity about this, you know, among the media

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 1>and among the public health officials, because it's a pretty

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>remarkable of phenomenon. Talk to me about this, and we're

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:19.720
<v Speaker 1>speaking of Phil Kirpin. He is the president of American Commitment,

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and he's a syndicated columnist. Phil. I see all these charts,

0:47:23.800 --> 0:47:25.320
<v Speaker 1>and I've I've looked at some of the data myself,

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and they show mask mandates going into place on a timeline.

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for a state, right whether it's California

0:47:34.160 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>or Hawaii or New York or wherever mask mandate goes

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.680
<v Speaker 1>into effect, and then you have countless charts where you

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.799
<v Speaker 1>just give it time and the case is just skyrocket

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>after the mandate goes into effect. What can we just

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 1>tell from the numbers about this as a policy? Can

0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 1>can we draw any conclusions or you can you draw

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:58.160
<v Speaker 1>any conclusions from what we're seeing. I don't think masks

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>have any effect mask mandates, You know, we should we

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 1>should differentiate the two masked mandates and masks are not

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 1>necessarily synonymous, because just because the mandates in an area

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean everyone's wearing them or wearing them properly or

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.080
<v Speaker 1>handling them properly and so forth. You know, the reason

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 1>historically we've never recommended masks outside of medical settings is

0:48:19.040 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>it's actually really hard to use a mask properly, to

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.520
<v Speaker 1>make sure you never touch the outside, to remove it

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>and carefully and throw it out or wash it without

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:29.919
<v Speaker 1>ever touching the outside. And you know, that's why we've

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.799
<v Speaker 1>never recommended them in non medical settings, because even if

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:35.880
<v Speaker 1>they work sort of conceptually in sort of a lab test,

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.040
<v Speaker 1>we never had confidence that people would use them correctly

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.280
<v Speaker 1>in a way that actually could be beneficial. And I

0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>think that based on the data that I'm seeing, you know,

0:48:44.640 --> 0:48:47.319
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of you could go either way on whether

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>they work in idealized setting. There is a lot of

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.839
<v Speaker 1>lab data showing that they probably would be beneficial if

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 1>they were used sort of perfectly, but in practice, I

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 1>don't see any evidence that they've been beneficial at all.

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, there's cherry picking that goes on. And

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the CDC had a couple of very low quality studies

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.399
<v Speaker 1>looking at Arizona and Kansas, where they essentially just cherry

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>picked their end dates and their comparators and said, look,

0:49:11.480 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>masks to the reason we saw a decline. And you know,

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>if you look at kind of what's happened seasonally, you

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>have essentially identical patterns in places with and without mask mandates,

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.919
<v Speaker 1>if they've got the same geography in the same sort

0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>of time of year, and so I don't think that

0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 1>they make a difference one way or the other. You

0:49:30.600 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>could argue some have suggested they may actually be harmful.

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.799
<v Speaker 1>The reason that the normodic states have all avoided the

0:49:36.880 --> 0:49:40.439
<v Speaker 1>mask mandates, you know, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and so forth,

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>as they say, look, you know, the mask doesn't really

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>do that much, especially the way a typical person handles

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>it is not well trained, the way as a surgeon

0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 1>would be, and so forth. But if you tell people

0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that the mask protects you, then suddenly they're going to

0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>stand right next to each other for prolonged periods of

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 1>time with masks on, and they're going to think they

0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:59.399
<v Speaker 1>don't need to keep their distance. And oh and I'm

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sure people have mild code. They might go out of

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:04.040
<v Speaker 1>the house even if they're feeling set because mask on

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.279
<v Speaker 1>and so the you know, a false belief that a

0:50:06.360 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>mask will protect you might actually put you at more resk.

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:10.399
<v Speaker 1>This is what I've been saying you're gonna have people

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and say, well, maybe I got COVID, but my symptoms

0:50:12.440 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 1>aren't that bad and I'm wearing a mask, so I'm

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 1>good to go. It's like, no, this is a bad idea.

0:50:16.680 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a bad idea, but I could guarantee that's been

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.560
<v Speaker 1>happening all over the country, all over the world. Phil, Look,

0:50:22.600 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that you're willing to take take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the data here on the numbers and come to

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions that you know aren't right in line with the consensus.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is the brainwashing that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>on on this issue is unlike anything else I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen in my life. I just want to give you

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<v Speaker 1>the last word. Yeah, I mean, probably the most frightening

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<v Speaker 1>thing of the past year buck has been the extent

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<v Speaker 1>to which people not only accepted all of these various

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<v Speaker 1>arbitrary government decrees, but demanded them and welcomed them and

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<v Speaker 1>cheered them on. And I think the extent to which

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<v Speaker 1>a large portion of the public supports the heavy handed

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<v Speaker 1>government policy response is probably the most frightening takeaway of

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing. And uh, you know, it means we

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<v Speaker 1>could we could see this again every time there's a disease.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am, I am concerned about that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>share your uh, you know, I share your sentiments on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Kirpin, President of American Commitment, Phil really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to you soon, all right, have a good one.