WEBVTT - Hall of Famer James Lofton talks NFL 2021 season 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.559 From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.040 podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Jana's 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:29.200 Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed from 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.040 the King of Sports Books by bet MGM. We are 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.040 going to get into NFL preseason headlines as we get 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.479 into the final week of the preseason, a lot to 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.440 talk about. And then we have NFL Legend Hall of 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:46.080 Famer James Lofton. He is such a great storyteller. He's hilarious. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.360 You are going to want to catch this interview. And 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:49.880 then we're going to tell you how to win five 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:54.160 dollars in credit for bet MGM. Three lucky winners. Get that. 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:55.959 We're going to tell you how in a bit. At 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.240 the end, we wrap it all up with Peter Andrew 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.600 from bet MGM. He will tell us our Lions locks 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.000 as we go into the weekend of NFL games. Jana's 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.440 Pappas my co host, my friend, how are you doing. 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.080 I'm doing good. I was just listening to all that 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.199 we're offering this episode. I was just sitting there going, damn, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.080 we're good. That is a lot of good stuff. Yeah, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:19.680 we're taking notes you're giving away money. We we got 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.520 Hall of Fame guests, we got me, we got you, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.120 we got the NFL. I mean, what more do these 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.840 people want? And I don't know what more do these 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:29.959 people want? And this is why you tell your wife 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.679 that this podcast takes three hours to record, right, so 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.360 that she leaves you alone for three hours. Yeah, that's 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.160 the thing. Being a new dad is a twenty four 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:41.240 hour job. And so whenever I tell her this podcast 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.560 is about to record, I tell her, yeah, it's a 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:45.640 four hour or deal. And then I just sit down here, 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.000 and I just sit down here and stare at a 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.000 wall and take a nice breather. So you've been married 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:54.880 longer than me. I'm learning these things. I should take notes. Yeah, 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.360 you know, you got to go to the bathroom. You 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.720 spend a little extra time in the bathroom. That's your 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.400 alone time? Is the bad through him? That's like, you know, 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:03.880 I'll say I have to do number two when I 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.720 only have to do number one. Yeah, I'll scroll on 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:10.200 the phone. These are little tips that you can that's 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:12.800 the break you get and make the other person do 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.960 a little bit more parenting. No, you're you're opening my 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.880 eyes up to what Sam does now, Now I get exactly. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.560 Now you know what he's doing in there. I mean, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.760 nobody goes in there without there, but we all stay 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.040 a little longer than we should because of the phone. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:28.079 But when you have a kid, those few moments turned 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.560 into another half hour. I mean, I can't feel my legs, 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:34.360 but it's fine. I'm so uncomfortable. I hate body humor. 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:41.880 I guess so comfortable. I'm like beat red. I saw that. Okay, Jesus, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.400 you have found my achilles heel. This is where like 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:49.800 the buck stops here. Can't do it? Yeah, only only 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.920 for guys. Women don't do that. You guys don't. Yeah, 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.360 I understand. And my daughter, so you really know. You 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:59.519 know the truth. I know the truth. It's a magical 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:04.160 fairy um. And you don't even need to use the restroom. 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.320 Oh my god, can we talk about sports? We can? 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:13.000 I thought we were. Oh my god, I'm dying. I'm dying. Okay. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.880 Us Openness is back this week. It was canceled last year. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.600 They're back at Flushing Meadows. It begins this weekend. Um. 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.760 There are no spectators actually until the main draw again, 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.240 that begins this weekend. The singles draw begins tonight Thursday. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.880 Main draw begins August. There's a lot to keep up with. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.960 I think something that's really significant is prize money in 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.680 the US Open this year is bigger than ever, but 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.920 it's down For the winner of both singles events, they're 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:45.640 going to earn thirty five less than in nineteen. Despite 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.720 the overall prize money is going up. Like I said, 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.000 so the prize money for qualifying and the first three 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.800 rounds of the main draw, that's what's going up if 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.680 you're doing the math. But again the winners. Two point 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.720 five million dollars is what the winner of both singles 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.440 events will win. It was three million dollars the last 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.920 time it was played in three point eight five million 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.920 two years ago. What do you think would you even 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.280 get out of bed for two point five million dollars? 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:12.480 Who would get out of bed for that little amount 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.440 of money? That's insane? Two point five that's what can 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.560 you even buy with that? That'll get you like a 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:22.000 studio apartment in Manhattan? No good, no good, that's not 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:25.920 enough money to play and for two weeks that you 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:28.080 wouldn't even get off the toilet for that much money. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.720 I would not get off the toilet for that money. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.000 I really would not. You know, it's funny that there 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.520 will be no fans um. I often wonder if the 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.039 tennis players get self conscious about their grunts because they 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.920 don't have the you know, there's no fans. I mean 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.839 there's they're quiet anyway, but at least with the people 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.240 in the stadium, it kind of it softens it a 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:51.320 little bit. Now you hear the full and so yeah, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.520 I'm looking forward to here. There should be we should 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.920 bet on who is gonna grunt and who's not. That's 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.640 a big part of tennis. Let's talk to Peter Andrew later. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.240 If we can add that bet MGM dot com, that'd 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.280 be a good one. Yeah, that's it's such a gentleman 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.279 or general woman's sport. It's funny because like they're quiet 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.400 during every play, so you can't curse, you can't say anything, 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:15.760 you know, anything is uh is highlighted. It's like even 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.280 if you like you get damn, people like what is 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:20.600 wrong with that guy? Is he crazy? It's like he's 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.479 allowed to show a little emotion. No, I've gotten a cover. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.039 Tennis up close and personal and it is it's there's 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.040 so much attention on it and it's such a different 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.960 sport in person than on TV. I've never been to 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.680 a US Open, but that's that's on my bucket list. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.200 And there are so many good storylines this year, like 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.080 Novak Djokovic. He's trying to win his first calendar year 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.560 Grand Slam. If he does, he'd be the first to 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.400 do so since nineteen sixty nine. It would also set 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.880 a record, would be his twenty one major singles championship. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.240 That is incredible. He is the favorite at minus one 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:57.800 thirty five on bet MGM right now. Rafael Nadal's out 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.280 with a foot injury. He is not competing, so kind 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.840 of with those odds. Do you like the Joker? I 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:06.000 do like the Joker, especially since he's kind of rested 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.560 a little bit. I think he had maybe some injuries 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.279 that will play in him during the Olympics. And um, 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.520 this this has been the I'm a huge tennis fan, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:18.120 and this era has been incredible because you're watching the 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.200 three i think the three best tennis players of all 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:27.080 time play in their prime at the same time against 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:32.200 each other. And it's funny because Djokovic, he everyone always 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.039 talks about Federal and Nadal, but you know, yeah, like 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.200 you just said, joker is about to get twenty one. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.159 We know he's gonna get it. He could be the 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.320 first one to win the Grand Slam in the calendar 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.360 year since Rod Laverne sixty nine. And he's got a 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.919 winning record of against both those guys, I believe now. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.760 So it's like, except for're on clay, you can so 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:54.840 you can say Nadal is the best by far on 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.359 clay of all time. But overall we may be looking 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.520 at the go right now and he doesn't get the 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.320 credit because he doesn't have that. I guess he's a 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.240 little bit more. He's not that gentleman like we're talking about, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:11.120 like like Rafa and and Federer. You know, he comes 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.640 from award torrent country, and he's a little he's a 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.040 little harder, he's a little more competitive, and I'm very 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:19.640 excited to see and he's he's the favorite by a lot. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.480 But you know, that's the great thing about tennis is 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:29.480 anything can happen. And those three Medvedev and the Greek, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.760 my countrymen, those are the three that could give him problems. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.720 So it's it's fun to watch. I agree. I agree. 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.640 Over to the women's side, Naomi Osaka, she's the defending 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.240 Women's champion. She's seeking her fifth Grand Slam title. She 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.040 wanted Flushing Meadows twice. Actually, However, ash Barti is the 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.840 favorite to win at plus four hundred at bet MGM 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:51.960 Naomi is right behind her at plus five hundred. I 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.200 wouldn't bet on Osaka at the US Open this year, 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.600 and here's why she's never defended her title the following year. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.239 She recently fell in the third round in Cincinnati, also 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.640 a third round exit in Tokyo. She's an incredible hardcore talent. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.440 There's no denying her talent. She's going through so much 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.720 right now in front of the world. I wouldn't take 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.119 places with her for the world, but I think plus 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.760 five hundred is too big a risk for osccer right now. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.320 What do you think? I agree with you, it's too 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.400 she's a little unpredictable. I don't think she's really coming 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.560 to her own as the dominant player she could be. Yet. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.000 You know, she's got, like you said, other stuff going on. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:29.160 She hasn't gone on that streak yet that like like 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.840 the joker, like Serena Nadal at the French where it's 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.120 like sure thing, like you just don't know. It's a 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.160 toss up, so yeah, and you also got to throw 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.120 Cocoa in there. Coco could take anybody out at any time. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.760 So I'm putting my money on Coco. I like yeah. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.800 And she's plus yeah, so you can win a lot 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.600 of money betting on her. And she's playing well so 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.840 and she could take out anyone at any time. She's 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.560 got the home she'll have the home field advantage. So 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.760 let's go Coco. I like that. Serena Williams also playing. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.520 She's plus fourteen hundred and so I think when you're 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.240 putting your money on some of these bets. And we're 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.000 going to talk to Peter Andrew about it later, but 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.000 look at some of those second tier, the second line 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.959 on the website as I'm looking at it now, look 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.240 at some of those and I don't know. I don't 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.480 think you sleep on Serena Williams. Ever. Yeah, you can 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.440 never sleep on her, especially at the US Open. You know, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.680 it's just me being a dad, her being a mom. 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.760 I know, when I when I go and do stand 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.480 up now, I don't know if I'm giving a percent, 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.760 I don't know if I can't give. Yeah, she's a 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.840 full time mom. It's tough she's she's the legend, she's 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.160 the goat. You can never count her out though, for sure. YEA, yeah, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.120 you know, I know you've been watching a lot of boxing. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.760 In the Manu Pacio fight, he's forty two years old. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.720 He lost to your Dennis Sugas and he had cramping 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.280 in both legs. That's kind of what he blamed it on. Um. 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.640 I know there was some last minute scheduling with this. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.240 You're a boxing gurer, so walk me through that. How 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.080 did this whole fight come to be? And why was 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.000 it more last minute? He took it on last minute. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.160 I I don't know the details of why he took 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.400 it early. I don't know. I don't know what happened. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.920 What happened there, but not too early. I mean they 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.280 had a training camp and everything like that. Like you said, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.640 he's forty two. Not only is he forty two, he's 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.960 got a lot of fights. He has a lot of miles, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.160 a lot of long fights, a lot of miles. He's 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.920 also a senator in his country. He's thinking about a 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:18.880 presidential run. He also sings horribly, So you ever hear 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.600 him saying, I mean he's kind of you. You don't 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.599 expect that Yeah, he puts out like pop songs and 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.800 the Philippines are very funny and um for a for 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:29.160 a boxer, you know, he sings pretty good. But he's 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.080 got a lot of interests and a lot of miles 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.400 on him. And I think this fight definitely showed that 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.160 it's time to uh to hang up the gloves and 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.640 go full time singer, full time president. I mean he's 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.480 doing everything in the Philippines, but he's a legend, and 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.080 uh it catches up with everybody, especially in boxing. And 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.480 that he was able to go as long as he did, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.160 I think and he and he has it is great. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.600 He said it's sixty forty right, so he said he's 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.200 still thinking about it, that he may continue. So he's 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:03.160 six considering retired for percent considering coming back and fighting. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.320 I think he should just do the super fight fight 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.800 one of the Paul brothers. Why not get one more 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:11.120 big pay day and then he can buy the Philippines. Well, 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.000 we don't have a clip of him singing, but we 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.280 do have a clip of him talking about the odds 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:17.760 of his retirement. Let's play that now. How will this 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.160 performance influence your decision to either come back to the 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:28.360 ring or retire right now, probably thinking about retirement. I 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:33.520 don't know. I'm not so. It is the last week 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:36.120 of the NFL preseason, so I always think if you 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.680 want to have fun betting, do it in the preseason 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.880 when anything can happen. You never know who's playing, you 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.520 never know what they're playing for. The lines are all 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.720 over the place, but it's a lot of fun. So 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.680 make sure to check out at MGM dot com to 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.839 see the weekends lines. So this last week of the 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.920 preseason started Monday night with a two point victory for 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:58.720 the New Orleans Saints hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars. The reason 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.120 this game was important is both teams are trying to 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.600 figure out their starting quarterback. For New Orleans, it's Taysom 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.959 Hill or Jamis Winston. Winston all but put it away. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.400 He was incredible. He got the start, he aired it 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.440 out too deep passes to Markus Callaway. One was in 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.240 the air for fifty three yards. That was incredible, and 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.719 Saints with two good options at quarterback. Now, I don't 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:21.440 know why everyone's making such a big deal about who starts. 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:25.280 Jamie seems to be head and shoulders above Taysom, but 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.480 in such a different way, he's such a different quarterback, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.319 he's a true quarterback. And then bringing Tasom as kind 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.440 of your trick play guy, your goal line package guy. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.760 So again it's August. It's much ado about nothing, but 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.959 I think the Saints found their starter. Bet MGM has 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.480 the Saints win total at nine point five. I would 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.480 definitely play that, especially as Michael Thomas is supposed to 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.040 make his return early in the season. That offense should 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:50.480 be dynamic. Over with the Jaguars, they're also figuring out 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.800 their quarterback between number one overall pick Trevor Lawrence and 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:57.920 Gardner Minshew. Again, it seems very obvious from a fan's perspective, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.679 picked the talent, picked the young guy. No one's expecting 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.000 the Jaguars to be good this season, so might as 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.160 well let your quarterback get his teeth wet, get his 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.160 teeth plays, get his feet wet. But you know, getting 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.640 your teeth wet, Yeah, okay, get your you have to 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:17.400 hydrate well. Another big loss to Jacksonville, though, in this week, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.880 was that they lost their first round rookie running back 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.400 Travis at t N He's out indefinitely with a foot 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.200 spring he shattered all a C C rushing records during 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.319 his time at Clemson. Obviously he played there with Revor Lawrence. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.480 They are comfortable that would have been entertainment and probably 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.040 some good football, if not for the sake of winning 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.880 some games. But it's an indefinite timetable. So that's update 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.720 on the Jags. Looking forward to this weekend. The Bears 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.800 did name Andy Dalton the Week one starter. Too many 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.800 people's dismay. Honest, have you seen people grumbling about this? 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.080 I haven't. I have not seen, and I don't know why. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.920 You're right, it's preseason. They want to just get it, 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.000 you know, you want to get different looks, you want 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.040 to see, you know, get everybody warmed up. So I 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.800 don't understand. Well, I think they're gonna go with Dalton. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.080 He's the experience, but everyone likes justin fields. You're going 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:08.320 to see both on Saturday, they play at the Tennessee Titans, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.160 so that's again a perk of preseason. You get to 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:14.160 see what's out there. San Francisco. Last week we talked 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.520 about Jimmy Garoppolo is the starter, but Kyle Shanahan, the coach, 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.800 is being pretty awkward about confirming that they host Las 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:25.240 Vegas on Sunday and then the Patriots. You have the 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.560 Cam verse Mac palindrome debacle. Have you heard that? The 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:33.040 Cim versus NBC? I haven't, but I get it. Yeah, Okay, 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.000 you're with me. You got it. I'm with you. I'm 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:39.960 with you. I'll be with you always. I'm your couch. 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.120 When you say get your teeth wet, I'm there to 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:46.400 back you up. Yes, that's an expression. I love it. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.360 But Belichick did name Cam Newton the starter, but basically 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.760 says yes to earn it every week. So again that's 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.840 the big storyline in this last week of the preseason. 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.240 So for me, I'm circling every game with a quarterback debate. 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.040 The Patriot to play the Giant Sunday night at five, 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.400 their three and a half point favorite, and that's actually 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.680 gone up a little bit as this week has gone on. 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.240 So those are the games that matter if you're trying 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.360 to place your money somewhere. I'd love to hear with 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.560 what Mr Andrew has to say about all these factors 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:18.720 that we're talking about with these qbs and what what 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.560 what on the lines, Peter, Let's find out a lot 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.520 to talk about there. But first we have a really 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.840 good guest this week. I am so excited to bring 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.400 in James Lofton Hall of Famer. He's an l a 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.000 native Stanford, ALAM. He won the national championship at Stanford 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.800 in the long jump. Obviously, he played college football there. 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.040 Drafted six overall in nineteen seventy eight by the Packers, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.600 He's an eight time Pro bowler, played in three Super 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.440 Bowls with the Bills, and in two thousand three he 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.520 was inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, of course, 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.440 the Packer Hall of Fame, where they've also retired his jersey. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.960 From there, he's gone on to coach and now he's 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.480 in media. There's so much to get to with James Lofton. 0:15:55.600 --> 0:16:06.040 So without further ado, let's bring in the Hall of Famer. So, James, 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.560 we are so glad you were on with us today, 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.800 and I bet for your sake you're kind of glad 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:15.120 to have another Harlan to talk with, right of course, 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.200 So although I wonder if there will be a gloved 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:23.040 catch during this period. You know, it's funny. We actually 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.440 had my dad on the podcast, and then recently we 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.680 were talking with the NFL films crew and he was 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.680 talking about when he was a ball boy with the 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:33.720 Packers when you were a player, and he said you 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:35.760 would give the ball boys a tough time. Do you 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.760 remember any of those stories? You know, these stories don't 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.600 have to be accurate to be good. Now that's true. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.920 I am. I am positive that I did not give 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.800 the ball boys a hard time and anything. I probably 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.400 engage with them more than anybody else. Well, I know 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:55.760 he speaks so fondly of that time. That was a 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:58.600 lot of fun. And then how ironic to grow up 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.720 both of you in your career, after your time with 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.800 the Bills and coaching. Now you're in media and you 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.919 all are calling Packer preseason games together. What's it like 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:10.440 going back to do those games at Lambeau. I saw 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.480 you tweeted the other day your retired number forever immortalized 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.600 in the stadium. That must be a pretty cool feeling. 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.560 It is a kick, But I will I will tell 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.960 you this, when and I hear Kevin Harland doing a 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:26.159 basketball game, I get the immediate urge to text him 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:29.560 because I just you feel that connection when there's somebody 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.480 that you've worked with, somebody that you're friends with, especially 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:36.840 and they are, you know, doing these Marquee events. It's 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.520 just hard not to want to reach out and say, hey, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:42.560 what's up? Is your dad like that in real life? 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.919 As he does, he like call what he's doing in 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.679 the house with that much further no. In fact, you know, 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:52.000 he has four kids, three of them are girls, and 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.520 we laugh sometimes at the dinner table we're all talking 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.920 a mile a minute and he's been quiet for about 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.600 thirty minutes, and we'll say, well, Dad, what do you think? 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.119 And he's like, I have no idea what the hell 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:06.240 you guys are talking about? You talked so fas and James, 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.639 you're right, father and grandfather. Do you ever feel like 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.880 that that you kind of play second fiddle to your wife? 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.440 Beverly Well, I remember when my kids were young, and 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.080 now they're all in their thirties, but we used to 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.880 play a game that I really enjoyed when I was driving, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.040 and it was called a quiet game, and we wanted 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.320 to see how long the kids could be quiet in 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:28.720 the car because I'm not a big talker, even though 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:30.800 I talked for a living, and like your dad, he's 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.560 probably not just a big talker naturally, but he enjoys 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:37.200 the event. So when you are that type of person 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:41.000 and you're not a talkative person. You actually enjoy a 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.359 little bit of quiet now and then. Well, James, I 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.240 know you're very hands on father and grandfather. I just 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.959 saw you last week. You're showing me pictures of the grandkids. 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.879 Such a beautiful family. What's your advice to Janice as 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:54.439 a first time dad now to a little girl? That 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.119 could take on more than just one segment, because what 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.200 you really want to do, you want to be able 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.199 to cast yourself into the future anytime there's a little hiccup, 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:07.120 you know, when the diaper explodes, when the milk gets 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:10.439 teated over and say, what what a wonderful moment that 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.240 actually was eighteen nineteen years ago, Because you don't get 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.840 those moments over and so you want to cherish every 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.400 moment that you really can't as a father. Yeah, I've 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.960 realized as a father, there's a lot of audibles you 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:27.359 gotta call. You have a play. Things are supposed to 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.159 go a certain way, and the diaper explodes, and you 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.359 really got to go off the cuff. You were talking 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.760 about the silent treatment in the car, seeing how long 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.399 the kids not not the not, the silent treatment, the 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:41.760 silent game, the silent game, I'm sorry game because you 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:45.199 want to challenge your kids. You know that you you 0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.080 don't get to talk until you see a yellow Volkswagen beetle. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:53.359 You know how rare those are now, very rare, very rare. 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.280 On the field. How much talking did you do? How 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.119 much trash talking goes on between the cornerback and the 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.520 wide receiver when you're in game. I think there's a 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:07.960 lot more going on now because I think the kids 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.320 who are playing now are much more aware that they 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:15.879 are on camera. They are because even within their own stadium, 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.800 they're gonna be on camera on the replay. So when 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.880 I played, that was a lot different. You know, television 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.879 didn't really factor into how we played the game, and 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:29.800 now it does, with instant replays, with reviews, with challenges, 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.560 everybody can see almost every play. You see players after 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.680 plays over gazing up at the scoreboard looking to see 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.320 what the last play was? Was a blocking assignment right? 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.480 That I run my pattern right? So they are acutely 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.159 aware of what's going on, and they do tend to 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.560 chirp at one another a lot more than we did 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.440 in my day. What else do you feel like it 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:52.639 is a big difference from your day to kids now, 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.520 And I say kids, you know, they're grown men in 0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.600 the NFL, of course, but but there's so much different 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:01.800 off the field. What do you feel like translates most 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:04.360 on the field when you look at the differences in time, Well, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.880 I think you wanted to get to know players. When 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:09.760 we went back to Green Bays last week, I went 0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:13.720 by my old neighbor's house and I actually got to 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:15.679 go into the house that I used to live in, 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.360 and it's been remodeled about three or four times, so 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.320 you know, the butts and goads of it were kind 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:26.639 of the same, but everything else was different. And I 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.960 think it's the same way in football that the game 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.480 is the same, You're you're playing on the same size field, 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.360 different things like that. But the rules have been tweaked 0:21:34.600 --> 0:21:37.919 just enough from the late nineties to the way the 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.040 game is played now. And I even played in the 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:43.200 late seventies, So when you even look at the players, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.080 a big offensive lineman used to be a two sixty 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:50.000 pound guy. Now that's a small tight end. So just 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:53.639 the physicality of the game is different. And like you said, 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.600 we get to know the players a little more off 0:21:56.640 --> 0:21:59.760 the field through their own social media, So you you 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.719 have a kind of a feeling of what they're like 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.119 as people and what their thoughts are about. What was 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:08.840 it like for you playing in Green Bay? I mean, 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.680 were you prepared for that level of cold coming from 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.160 where you came from? Yeah, I came from southern California, 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:18.160 And so what I had to do is I had 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:23.160 to redefine what the word cold meant, because because as 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:26.520 a kid from California, cold is when it's fifty degrees 0:22:27.320 --> 0:22:29.919 and it's gonna be cold, and you gotta bundle up 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.720 and do all this kind of stuff, and fifty degree 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.159 day in Green Bay is a reason to wear shorts. 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.400 It was a lot different, but I I really took 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.280 it as a badge of honor to try and play 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.280 well in the cold weather. And I remember the very 0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.520 first cold practice we had. We were standing out on 0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:53.119 the old AstroTurf field outside and my fingers were just numb. 0:22:54.000 --> 0:22:56.720 I didn't have on gloves, and bart Star handed me 0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.800 one of those little tiny hand heaters and he said, here, 0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.879 this will help. And I remember thinking to myself, no, 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:08.359 it's not helping. What would be helping is if we 0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:12.800 move this stadium to southern California. That might have helped 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:17.160 a little bit, James. He brought up bart Star. That's, 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:19.639 you know, as big a packer player as there is 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:22.160 in history. What are some of your memories of him 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.600 as you as you think about your time together. I have, 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:29.199 I have so many memories about bart They can have 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:33.479 like a little uh blackard in my den that Barton 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:38.200 Cherry gave us after we got married, and two paraphrases says, 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.480 do not look for perfection in your mate where you 0:23:40.520 --> 0:23:43.359 will not find it, and it goes on and on 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.600 and on. It says a couple of other real rosy things. 0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:49.240 But so he's somebody I think about every day. And 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.719 I also trying pattern a little bit of my life 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:56.639 over one of his other things, because he said you 0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.280 can judge the true measurable man by how he treat 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.199 someone who can do nothing for him. And when when 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.200 I say that, I still get chills because I can 0:24:05.240 --> 0:24:09.080 remember sitting in the St. Norbert's auditorium during training camp 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.879 when he said that, and he was really relaying it 0:24:11.960 --> 0:24:14.520 to something else that was going on, because we were 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:17.000 keeping the locker room a little messy, and we weren't 0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.359 going trash into trash can. We weren't thilling the laundry 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.720 and the laundry bins, and he said, you can tell 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.720 the true measure of a man by how he treats 0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:26.520 someone who can do nothing for him. And that just 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.760 still brings to my soul. Kind of on that note, 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.639 in a nostalgia mindset, every year going to Canton for 0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.200 the Hall of Fame induction must be a very special 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:38.440 part of the year for you. What were your impressions 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.640 this year? Well, this year, because it was doubled up, 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.679 you had lost which was a huge class of twenty people, 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.119 and then class was going to be eight people. So 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.600 now you have to account for twenty eight people, and 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:58.680 not only people, but their family and their friends, their entourages, 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.520 the clubs that come to see So during the course 0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.960 of the weekend it seemed like things were going fast forward. 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:09.400 You would see somebody who was associated with a player 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.200 or a coach that was going in or an administrator 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.720 and go, okay, you're here to see that person. They 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.640 don't know I'm actually here to see some and and 0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.640 so it was just this ball of confusion. But he's 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.560 a good ball of confusion. Do you have to have 0:25:23.640 --> 0:25:27.040 a great memory to be an NFL player? Because there's 0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:31.200 so many guys on the team. Have you ever run 0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:35.560 into any problems remembering anyone who's on your team with 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:40.240 without a doubt? And not even that for me, having 0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:44.679 been a player, a coach, and a broadcaster, there's a 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:49.399 blurred line between was that guy my teammate? Did I? 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.240 Did I coach him? Or did I just call games 0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.720 that he played in? And there have been a couple 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.840 of players that that the answer that yes, all three. 0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:02.840 So I've had teammates. I've had guys that I ended 0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:06.679 up coaching who are also my teammates. And and it 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.080 was funny when I was coaching with the San Diego Chargers. 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.119 Every week you give your players a test on different 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.239 assignments and things like that, and then I give him 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:18.320 an odd ball test. And I told them on this 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:22.480 San Diego Chargers team, there are two players that were 0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:27.320 my teammates. Who were they? So they start scrambling around. 0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:30.960 They find the media guy, Steve Christie, who's a kicker 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:34.879 for the Chargers, was also the kicker in Buffalo and 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:37.719 was a kicker while I was there in Buffalo. They 0:26:37.760 --> 0:26:40.440 can't figure out the next person. I said, I said, 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.000 you guys have to figure it out, I'm not gonna 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:46.400 tell you. Weeks go by, months go by. Finally they're 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.040 going tell us who the last person was because we 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.879 cannot figure it out. We've looked, We've talked to guys 0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.160 around the locker room. Nobody knows. I go, okay, Junior 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:59.720 say out. They go, wait a minute, you didn't play 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.439 for the Chargers. No, the last Pro Bowl that I 0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.800 played in, Junior say, I was on my team. We 0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:11.280 worked teammates. Yeah, there you have it. They didn't think, 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:16.560 They did not think about that. Oh, that's funny. Speaking 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.520 of all all your Pro Bowl trips, eight times named 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.360 a Pro Bowler, who were some players that you never 0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:25.120 got a chance to play with on a team outside 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.960 of there that really left an impression on you. Who's 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.359 someone who just made you laugh, made you think about 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.000 the game difference, something like that. Well, the quarterbacks were 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:38.920 always front and center. And the very first Pro Bowl 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.160 that I played in, and I still get a kick 0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:45.520 out of saying this, my two quarterbacks were Roger Stabat 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:50.119 and Archie Manning the other Manning, not Peyton or Eli, 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.040 but the other man. So that was always pretty neat. 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:58.200 And I remember one trip back from Aloha Stadium back 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.440 to the Hilton Hawaian Village, which is about the thirty 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:03.880 minute bus ride. I sat down next to Joe Tisman 0:28:04.680 --> 0:28:07.400 and I remember saying hey, Joe, and then he proceeded 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:13.119 to talk for the next thirty minutes. He has the 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.720 gift of gab where he just kept going and going, 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.720 and he was talking about all his future plans and 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.560 what he planned to do, and you know he accomplished 0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:23.720 most of them. What are you what are you looking 0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:28.080 for this upcoming season? Who are some of your favorites 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.760 going in? Some of your favorites at your position? Well, 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.119 when when you say favorites, all of a sudden, the 0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.320 former teams that you played for, Croper. You know, this 0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:43.040 week in the preseason when we're filming this Buffalo and 0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.800 Green Bear play. Naturally, those are two teams that are 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.560 right on that Super Bowl cusp that are expected to 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.200 be at least in the a f C and NFC 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:56.200 championship games. So that be great. Another former team, the Raiders, 0:28:56.240 --> 0:29:00.000 are opening up a brand new stadium and its interesting 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.120 in their stadium last year was brand new, but Mark Davis, 0:29:03.160 --> 0:29:07.040 the owner, decided if the fans can't go, I'm not 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:10.680 even going to the game, and so they're starting out 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.160 on Monday Night Football this year, and so a lot 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.640 of excitement there. In terms of players they're they're just 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.160 so many. And the thing that, especially from my position, 0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:25.120 everybody wants to know who's the best receiver, and it 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:28.560 varies ever so slightly from week to week. It's kind 0:29:28.560 --> 0:29:32.840 of like the p G a Professional golf association. The 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.040 number one ranked player in the world fluctuates depending upon 0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:37.920 what place he was in and this and that. So 0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:41.480 if you really want, they're probably ten really great receivers, 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.040 more so than there were in the seventies and eighties 0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.280 and nineties, because teams just throw the ball so much, 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.120 they're so proficient at throwing it, and people practice it 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.840 a lot more than they ever used to. What makes 0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.800 a great receiver? You always hear about the prototype six 0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:00.600 three six for what he can on, But then you 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.680 see guys like Julian Edelman who are of that prototype, 0:30:03.720 --> 0:30:06.920 who put up big numbers, who are very resourceful. What 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:10.640 is it that makes a great receiver? So in part 0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:12.920 of your question, you kind of answered it because you 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:16.160 say big numbers, and not only do you put up 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.400 big numbers, but you put up important numbers and in 0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:24.640 addition to that, the other team cannot stop you. So 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:26.959 I used to say it was the four essence. Let 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.120 me see if I got this right, size, speed, strength, 0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:34.400 and skill. Yeah, yeah, four. So I I was right. 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:39.400 And so you can have guys of different sizes, different speeds. 0:30:39.440 --> 0:30:42.560 A guy that that comes off the tongue first is 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:47.720 probably Davante Adam because he doesn't have a Robin to 0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.640 go along with him. That is of significant. The second 0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.440 receivers for the Green Bay Packers are all decent players, 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.280 but they don't have a second receiver who's catching sixty 0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:59.120 five or seventy passes. It's Davante Adams was about a 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.840 hundred and twenty. And so if you're the defense and 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.440 you go into the game and you go, we have 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:10.560 to stop Davante Adams, and corner after corner, linebacker after linebacker, 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.880 safety after safety sliding in that direction, they can't stop 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:19.200 Davante Adams. So is it Davante Adams is unstoppable or 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:22.320 is it unstoppable where you can't stop Aaron Rodgers from 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.520 getting in the ball. So it's it's that combination between 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.600 the two. And when you mentioned Julian Edelman, yeah, Tom 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:31.280 Brady thrown to him, and you couldn't stop Tom Brady 0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:33.680 from throwing the ball to Julian Edelman. So you look 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.520 around the league and there are a lot of guys 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:38.080 like that who can dominate and dictate the course of 0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.080 the game. James sticking with the Packers, and you brought 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.600 up Aaron Rodgers. I think players from your generation have 0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:49.560 a hard time grasping, um, how much money they're making, 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:53.640 the demands they're making, the kind of hot and cloud. Recently, 0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.520 Aaron Rodgers said he was fifty fifty on even playing 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.800 this season. What was your take on the whole thing? 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.200 Is someone so close with the Suckers and covering them 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:05.520 this preseason? You know, I watched it kind of developed, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:09.760 and I knew that there was a dropped dead day, 0:32:10.000 --> 0:32:11.800 and that dropped dead day was kind of like when 0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.360 training camp started, and so everything that you were talking 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.000 about had you had to drop at that point and 0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.400 you had to resolve it. Because I really believe that 0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.160 Aaron Rodgers wanted to play and has a desire to 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.680 play and love's playing, and as good a host as 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:34.000 he was on Jeopardy, I think he realized that that 0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:38.840 could wait. Something like that could wait in football. Normally, 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:40.720 once you walk away, you don't get to come back. 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.160 You know, occasionally a guy gets to come back and 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.600 comes back a year later and he finds out that, yeah, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.520 I should have just stayed retire. So for Aaron Rodgers, 0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:51.840 you know, he has this other guy out there who's 0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:56.440 running the Ultra Marathon and Tom Brady, And I think 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.200 Tom's is Tom forty four. This year is forty three. 0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:02.040 Right now, we've kind of forgotten how old Tom Brady 0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.800 is because it's it's not part of the discussion. Once 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:07.600 he turned forty and then after he continue to play 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.920 pass four? Do you want you go, huh, well, maybe 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:14.600 you can play until he's fifty. The rules allow for 0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.560 quarterbacks not to get hit as much or as often, 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:22.080 but they still get hit. And for Aaron Rodgers, I'm 0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:26.120 just glad that he's back in uniform and uh we 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:30.120 get to watch him play for one, two, three, four 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.520 more years. What do you think has to happen this 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.360 season in Green Bay for him to stay longer. I 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:38.480 think for them to back up the Brinks truck a 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:42.040 little more. And I think I think it's money and 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.960 a little bit of money is power. There's been some 0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.480 discussion that he didn't have, you know, say, on who's 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.920 on the roster. And I can totally understand that from 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.160 general manager's perspective or from a head coach's perspective, because 0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:01.240 players get attached to other players for for reason. Sometimes 0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:03.160 it's because the player is a good player, sometimes because 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.680 he's a good friend, he's a good fishing buddy or 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.279 something like that, and you want that guy around. And 0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:13.000 sometimes you know, they have to make tough decisions, the 0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.759 coaches and the general managic did see. I don't think 0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.239 it's money. I think what you said he wanted more 0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.200 to say. I think he was blindsided by the La 0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:24.760 Fleur higher, which seems crazy to me because it fits 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:27.680 him so well. He's an offensive coach, he's a young guy. 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:30.160 I I feel like the Packers are doing as much 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:33.279 as they can to make Aaron comfortable, But as a 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:35.480 Packer fan myself, it's just tough to watch the whole 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:38.239 thing unfold. So the point of my question was, is 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.279 it super Bowl or bust? Do you think to get 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.359 Aaron to want to stay in Green Bay. I think 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.440 it's gonna be hard to duplicate the last two years 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.600 where they've been thirteen and three, they been an offensive 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:54.439 juggernaut because so much is out of control. Last year, 0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.520 the Kansas City Chiefs for by far the best team 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:01.480 during the regular season. They is both their offensive tackles 0:35:01.560 --> 0:35:04.720 before the Super Bowl and they look like a team 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.160 does during the preseason where they can't protect the quarterback. 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:11.840 So if you can stay healthy, if everybody can stay healthy, 0:35:12.040 --> 0:35:13.959 you can you can have a chance to do those things. 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.839 But it's hard to replicate year after year. Honest, did 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.839 you know you were on a Packer home podcast? I 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.320 did not. Yeah, I feel like I'm I'm yeah, I 0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:28.640 feel like I should have a cheese head on right now. Yeah, yeah, 0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.920 I gotta ask you this question. Everyone nowadays is obsessed 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:38.120 with goat lists, greatest of all Time list wide receiver. 0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.160 If you had to pick five all time, who are 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.759 your five all time greatest wide receivers? Well, see that. 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.160 The toughest thing is that the receiver who I put 0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:54.120 number one, I've never seen him play. I've seen some 0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.000 grainy footage of him, and that would be Don Hudson. 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:03.160 Because when Don Hudson played but the Bears had a 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:07.680 Sid Luckman Hall of Fame quarterback, there was a year 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:11.360 that Don Hudson had more receiving yards and said Luckman 0:36:11.400 --> 0:36:16.440 had passing yards. Transfer that to today's game. There's a 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.839 receiver who just had five thousand yards and receptions during 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:23.600 the year. How good would he be? I mean, what 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:25.160 would what would he look like? He'd looked like I 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.279 guess he looked like Don Johnson running through a bunch 0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.400 of Kevin Harts. But so you take Don Hudson and 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.319 you put him number one on the list because he 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:37.960 kind of invented the passing game. And then I think 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.280 you you really have to look at guys who played 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:44.879 before the Super Bowl era and just because the game 0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.799 was different, they didn't have sticky gloves, they didn't have 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:50.240 field curve to play off, so it's it's it's different. 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:53.400 So I hate doing it. You're you're not there, twist 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.719 my arm. I'm not gonna do it, but I would 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.880 you know, I would be I would be number six. 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:04.880 You can play yourself, I mean six, you know, just 0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:07.920 like when they had the hundred greatest NFL players, I 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:13.719 was one on one. I'm pretty sure about that. Oh 0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.400 that's funny. Well, this weekend you are calling Packers at Bills, 0:37:18.400 --> 0:37:20.759 your two former teams. You've brought up if it were 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:24.440 a regular season game that mattered, who would you cheer for? 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.040 Am I am I broadcasting the game? What am I doing? 0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:31.279 Is the game just going one? You're not broadcasting. I 0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:34.880 don't know. You know, I feel like I know Aaron 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.359 Rodgers a little more than I know Josh Allen, And 0:37:38.600 --> 0:37:40.759 so it was funny. The first time I ran in 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.000 d Aaron Rodgers off the field was here in San Diego, 0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.759 and he had but he was in about his fifth 0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:50.120 year and I saw him. He was at Ladanian Tomlinson's 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.560 golf tournament, and I'm looking at him, going, that guy 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.880 looks familiar because he had only started one or two 0:37:56.960 --> 0:38:00.759 years at the time. I'm going, I think that, Nah, 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:02.960 I don't. I'm not sure. I think that's Aaron Rodgers. 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.799 And I wonder where I said, James Lofton goes high. 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:09.680 I'm Aaron Rodgers. Of course I forgot that you lived 0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:14.239 out here, So you know, those associations don't go way easy. 0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.240 I have been invited by the Packers twice to announce 0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:22.040 players at the NFL Draft, and I am two for two. 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.080 And when I say two for two, we're talking about 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:29.359 Grand Slams out of the park, longest home run ever hit. 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:36.960 I don't know Jenkins, Mississippi State and Davante Adams. That's 0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:40.120 pretty good, not that out of the part. I don't 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.360 know why the Packers do not have me do it 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:46.200 every year. Seriously. Yeah, you need to you need to 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.040 talk to him about that. That's pretty good. This is 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:53.200 always something that has interested me. And I've never asked 0:38:53.280 --> 0:39:01.960 any player or former player this question, but briefs, yeah, yes, 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:11.040 I used to always be the question when you're when 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.560 the game comes down to it, right, when it comes 0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:17.680 down to a final play and it's on the foot 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.279 of a field goal kicker, how does that feel like? 0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.640 Is that? Do you know? Do you feel like you 0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.840 want to be out there to win the game or 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:30.200 do you feel like it's anticlimactic that it ends up 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:32.920 being on a guy who doesn't play the whole game 0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:35.600 and then comes in and determines the game. But you 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:39.560 know what, nobody plays the whole game. Good. Everybody. Everybody's 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:43.000 out there in their particular time and doing their thing. 0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:47.200 And I was really fortunate early in my career we 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.880 had jon stan Route come to Green Bay and he 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.640 came there and he was there during the season. Maybe 0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:55.960 he was there early as eight one in my state, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.919 eight three or eighty four. But here's the guy who 0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:03.560 played in the sick late in the sixties, and so 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.920 when he came to Green Bay, he was already like 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:10.000 older than everybody else on the team. And I remember 0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:13.160 we ran wind sprints after practice where you run over 0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:16.000 and back, over and back, and you're basically ran two 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.399 hundred yards and you run about four of those. Well, 0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:23.520 jon sten Rude ran with the receivers, and he beat 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:27.160 half the guys. You know. The other guys would would say, oh, well, 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:29.560 we've been practicing all day and he's just coming over 0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:33.000 to run. But he had been a ski jumper. He 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.200 was a terrific athlete. So right then and there the 0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.920 thing about oh them not being good athletes, Well, you 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.000 go out and try and kick the ball. That that's 0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:47.640 an athletic skill. So I've never, you know, looked at 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.399 the kicker as the guy who's less than anybody else 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:54.440 on the roster. Wow, okay, James, I've just won more 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:56.560 for you. As we look back at the whole career, 0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:59.600 I got plenty of time. Okay, we left hearing that 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.440 love you and that one question to look back on 0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:07.799 my whole career. Yeah, that's its gon no, And I 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.280 want to focus on the coaching part that whole chapter 0:41:10.600 --> 0:41:13.360 after you played, I think as the season begins, And 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.680 we had Ron Dworsky on last week and he said 0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.399 he was a proponent that no coach should have been 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.800 fired last year because of all the difficulties that COVID presented. 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.640 And I can definitely appreciate that. What do fans not 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:30.840 know about the coaching carousel? Because I've seen glimpses of 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.720 it from my background covering the league and being around 0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:37.000 my my dad and my grandpa. It's a very tough 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.480 gig on the person, on the individual, on the family. 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.680 Um coach. Coaching is a is a tough line of work. 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.440 What do fans need to know going into a new 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:49.160 football season about what it's like to be a coach. 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:54.160 I think that they work a lot longer hours than 0:41:54.280 --> 0:41:57.239 than you really could imagine. I remember going to my 0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.840 first coaching interview and it was right after I retired 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.440 and I didn't take the job, and Ted marcher Broda 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.359 was the offensive coordinator. Well, no, I take that back. 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.279 He was the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts and 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.800 he had been my offensive coordinator with the Buffalo Bills, 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.600 and Ted I just love he was. He's kind of 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.919 like your grandfather, you know. He saw spoken very nice 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.160 and he go he would always whenever he talk to you, 0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.360 go Jim, I mean James, I mean, I do mean James. 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.560 He said, we don't work long hours here. He said, 0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:33.640 Monday to Thursday, we worked from six to eleven and 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:38.120 Friday you're home by dinner by eight o'clock. And I went, 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:44.480 did he just say six to eleven am to eleven 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:48.160 pm Monday to Thursday and Friday you're home by dinner 0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.920 by eight o'clock. And I thought to myself, So I 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.040 didn't take the job. I did take the job almost 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.520 ten years later. And it was interesting when I had 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:02.600 a chance to interview for head coaching job. And you 0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.880 go in and you give the person that you're you know, 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:10.040 talking to your schedule and and I said, you know, 0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:12.960 I'm gonna be honest with I have some unique views 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:18.200 about the hours that coaches work. And I said, Monday, 0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:22.000 after a game, we're out of the office at six o'clock. 0:43:22.760 --> 0:43:24.360 I don't want to see the coaches back in the 0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:28.640 office until ten am Tuesday morning. We'll work until ten 0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.640 pm that night if we can't come up with a 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:34.600 game plan for our next opponent, and a game plan 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.759 that is really repetitive because you're you're just adding a 0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:40.880 few things that are specific to the team that you're 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.800 about to face. If we can't come up with a 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:47.320 game plan in twelve hours, we don't need to be coaching. Wow. 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:52.720 And and the person looked at me, stop their teeth 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:56.399 a little bit. Those I don't like that. I want 0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:59.759 to have my coaches in their offices and I want 0:43:59.800 --> 0:44:03.719 them they're burning the midnight oil. And I said, when 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.640 you burn the midnight oil, all you do is run 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.160 out of oil. And so I really believe that coaches 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.720 need to be fresh. Uh. And I see my friends 0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:15.360 who are assistant coaches now late in the season in 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.280 October and November, and they looked like they haven't slept 0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:22.680 since June. So it's it's a tough it's a tough, 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.359 tough job, and you sacrifice a lot of time being 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:29.759 away from your family. My my daughter, my youngest, who 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.200 was really at home when I was doing all the coaching. 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.279 The boys are kind of off in college that you 0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.320 just never got to meet any of my friends, and 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.360 that was like, oh, you know, hitting below the belt, 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.239 but it was it was honest. Well, I'm glad you 0:44:44.280 --> 0:44:46.360 answered that. I think a lot of people are so 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.000 tough on coordinators and position coaches, especially because they don't 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.279 know what all goes on behind the scenes. So thanks 0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:55.200 for answering that. James offten Hall of Famer, this was 0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.880 a true treat. You can catch him on CBS NFL Sundays, 0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:01.680 Westwood One. That's we've gotten to share the air waves together. 0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.320 That was a lot of fun, and doing Packer preseason 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.880 right now on Packer TV network and some of them 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:09.360 are airing on NFL Network. You can keep up with 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.840 him on Twitter as well. James, thanks so much for 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:13.719 joining us. I thought you were gonna say you can't 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:18.640 get rid of him here out of him, Well, Janice 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:20.439 was probably gonna say that, so I said it before 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.600 he did. Hey, well you know you said we you know, 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:25.799 you gotta be fresh, so we could keep you here 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.759 all night, like if you're still coaching, we could keep going. 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:33.239 Oh that's not how were you guys are great? You 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.640 guys are a great parent together. Thank you. That was 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.040 so much fun. Thank you. My friend tell Beverly we 0:45:38.080 --> 0:46:02.200 say hi, thank you, thank you. Well, we've got some 0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.680 cash to give away. In fact, three lucky winners are 0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:08.320 going to win five hundred dollars in credit for bet MGM. 0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.440 And here's how. So make sure you're paying attention. You've 0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:12.640 got to leave a review whatever you want to say. 0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:16.320 We're gonna pick our three favorites on Apple podcasts. Janice 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:18.920 and I. We're going to scour the reviews and pick 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.960 our favorite. You will win five hundred dollars, will send 0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:24.319 you a d M, so look out for that. We're 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:26.200 excited to give away some cash. 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There's bill Over thirty eight and 0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.080 a half, which was a very high scoring game. Weren't 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:07.279 expected with the Bills all over the place scoring, but 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.560 that was a winner. And then my Niners minus four 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.239 and a half they were winning against San Diego. If 0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.480 you got that line late, you're a loser because it 0:47:14.520 --> 0:47:16.960 went up to six. But if you caught it at 0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.720 four and a half. After listening to these three fine folks, 0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:22.879 you went five and l You included yourself on three 0:47:22.880 --> 0:47:27.320 fine Yeah, Joannice, have you noticed he doesn't really remember 0:47:27.400 --> 0:47:30.719 that specifically when he loses. He had those ready. Yeah, 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.880 I gotta gas myself up at the right times and 0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.360 then I'll He definitely emphasizes the winds for sure. But 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.080 that's the way you do it. And hey, this is 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.359 the podcast to listen to if you want to make 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.600 some bucks. We got the guru right here. Well, it 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:45.280 is the last weekend of the NFL preseason. You mentioned 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.640 a high over under last week. I'm looking at one 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.719 at thirty eight Vikings Chiefs, are you still the undertakers? 0:47:52.760 --> 0:47:55.759 Thirty eight too high for your comfort? There. Yeah, I 0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:57.799 do like it over today, but it's not that game. 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:00.640 I just don't know what to expect with those with 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:02.799 those teams, I don't know how much you're gonna see 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:06.120 that chief spoting offense. So I will probably take under there. 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.160 Where I do like the over I know we've talked 0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.960 about this before, is where there's QB controversy, where they're 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.400 gonna be playing a lot of the game Niners Raiders 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.960 over thirty five and a half. I think there's a 0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:19.120 big expectation that Jimmy and Trey Lance will play lots 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:22.040 of the game. I know we still haven't announced a 0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.560 quarterback at in San Francisco, so I think Trey is 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.799 going to continue to do everything he can, like last 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.680 week to put up some points on the board. So 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:31.120 as long as those two are in the game, I 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.920 expected to be somewhat high scoring. They probably covered the 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.000 three and a half as well. Um, So really like 0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:39.360 the over there all right? Very nice? How about the 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:41.600 US Open? You paying attention to the US Open at all? 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:45.040 Is there any money to be made betting on anyone 0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:48.799 else besides Joker to win it? Yeah, it's tough. I 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.960 mean it's Jokers to lose. We obviously know he's going 0:48:52.040 --> 0:48:55.479 for the Calendar Grand Slam. I still like Barrett Tiny 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.320 again who he happened to play in the Wimbledon final, 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:01.600 Betts plus thirty three hundred, So I think if you're 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.680 taking something, uh, you may be balanced out. Take Joker 0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.279 minus one thirty five, but also put a little money 0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.000 on the board, try to try to risk it a 0:49:09.040 --> 0:49:13.120 bit on the On the women's side, it's probably Party 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.719 who I'm going with. She's plus three fifty. She is 0:49:15.719 --> 0:49:18.160 the favorite, but I think she's there for a reason. 0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:20.360 So I'm staying in life for now. I think I 0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:21.919 need to see a couple of games, and of course 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:24.279 we can live bettered a bit as the tournament goes 0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.839 on and we see kind of where the performance lies 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:29.680 across some of the others. From your perspective at the 0:49:29.719 --> 0:49:33.560 sports book, have you noticed Nami Osaka's off court publicity 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:37.560 and storyline overall affecting her odds? Yeah, people are staying away. 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:41.120 So I think people are very careful. You know. Of course, 0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:44.359 when some things happen and she ends up dropping out 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.000 of a tournament, we do voids and bets in specific instances, 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:49.000 but I think people as a whole are just kind 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.840 of careful and stay away, and it opens up I 0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.840 think for some of them, maybe the longer shots, to 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:55.719 have a chance to jump in, especially on that part 0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:57.879 of the bracket where she would be as the one 0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.960 or the two or the three, sive, etcetera. So it 0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:03.520 is weird, but I think that will kind of stuff 0:50:03.560 --> 0:50:04.880 do as we go on a little bit and we 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.800 get through this little period. What's the line on Serena. 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.040 Serena's plus fourteen, She's always someone there. I think she 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.319 plays well at Arthur Ash, so that's someone to keep 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:18.160 an eye on. Again, I think she's just a little 0:50:18.200 --> 0:50:21.520 bit too overinflated in terms of where where she isn't 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:24.560 in the rankings. So that's typically why I stay away. 0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.560 Party is just above and beyond better than most. So 0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:30.680 that's why plus three I think is the move you mentioned. 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:33.560 Djokovic at minus one thirty five. He worries me a 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:36.680 little bit because he struggled with injuries in Tokyo, falling 0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:39.080 short of a gold medal. He went threw from some 0:50:39.160 --> 0:50:42.040 past events due to what he says is fatigued, So 0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:43.560 I feel like that's either going to go one of 0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:45.920 two ways. He's either going to come out swinging literally 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.600 and feel amazing and sharp. But does any of that 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.520 concern you if you're wanting to back the Joker? It does, 0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:53.120 But I kind of agree with you there. I think 0:50:53.160 --> 0:50:56.000 the fatigue kind of you know, it hit him hard 0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.040 while he was at the Olympics and for some of 0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:00.759 those smaller ATP tournaments. But if he's gonna come back 0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:04.400 completely refreshed, he knows what's at stake. Um, So I 0:51:04.440 --> 0:51:06.879 think he does come back looking like the Joker of late, 0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:09.759 you know, in the last three majors and certainly over 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.560 the last couple of years. So I don't have as 0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:14.680 big a fear or some but certainly have to be Okay, 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.320 Peter Andrew, thanks so much for always giving us good advice. 0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:26.440 We'll see how you do another five and weekend. I 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:28.400 love Peter. I feel like I want to replace my 0:51:28.440 --> 0:51:31.560 business manager with him. Five and Oh he's doing better 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.280 than my business manager right now, making more money. Yeah, 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.120 So we'll see how he does five and Oh, that's 0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.759 pretty good. He's undefeated last week. But I don't know 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:41.560 how much of a tennis fan he is, so we'll 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.320 see what happens. But that was a great show. I 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:45.160 had a great time, Olivia. I always have a great 0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:47.360 time with you. I did to my friend, and you 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:50.200 got James Lofton to really open up. So well done you. 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:52.799 He's great, isn't he. Yeah, But I mean you know 0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:54.799 him personally, so I feel like that was you. I 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.160 feel like you're the one who opens people up. I'm 0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:01.000 the one who supports you when you get your teeth wet. 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.920 That's what I'm here to do. Remember, people, get your 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:09.040 teeth wet and follow us at bet MGM on all 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.319 social media platforms. Don't forget to subscribe and leave a 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:16.480 review wherever you listen to your podcasts, but especially go 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:20.680 to Apple podcasts. Leave a review. Like Olivia said, we 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.319 will pick our three favorite and you'll get some money 0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:27.160 to bet with. 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