Speaker 1: From the King of Sports Books comes the Key sports
Speaker 1: podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host, Jana's
Speaker 1: Papas and Olivia Harland Decker. Welcome back to Unleashed from
Speaker 1: the King of Sports Books by bet MGM. We are
Speaker 1: going to get into NFL preseason headlines as we get
Speaker 1: into the final week of the preseason, a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about. And then we have NFL Legend Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer James Lofton. He is such a great storyteller. He's hilarious.
Speaker 1: You are going to want to catch this interview. And
Speaker 1: then we're going to tell you how to win five
Speaker 1: dollars in credit for bet MGM. Three lucky winners. Get that.
Speaker 1: We're going to tell you how in a bit. At
Speaker 1: the end, we wrap it all up with Peter Andrew
Speaker 1: from bet MGM. He will tell us our Lions locks
Speaker 1: as we go into the weekend of NFL games. Jana's
Speaker 1: Pappas my co host, my friend, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I was just listening to all that
Speaker 1: we're offering this episode. I was just sitting there going, damn,
Speaker 1: we're good. That is a lot of good stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're taking notes you're giving away money. We we got
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame guests, we got me, we got you,
Speaker 1: we got the NFL. I mean, what more do these
Speaker 1: people want? And I don't know what more do these
Speaker 1: people want? And this is why you tell your wife
Speaker 1: that this podcast takes three hours to record, right, so
Speaker 1: that she leaves you alone for three hours. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. Being a new dad is a twenty four
Speaker 1: hour job. And so whenever I tell her this podcast
Speaker 1: is about to record, I tell her, yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: four hour or deal. And then I just sit down here,
Speaker 1: and I just sit down here and stare at a
Speaker 1: wall and take a nice breather. So you've been married
Speaker 1: longer than me. I'm learning these things. I should take notes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you got to go to the bathroom. You
Speaker 1: spend a little extra time in the bathroom. That's your
Speaker 1: alone time? Is the bad through him? That's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll say I have to do number two when I
Speaker 1: only have to do number one. Yeah, I'll scroll on
Speaker 1: the phone. These are little tips that you can that's
Speaker 1: the break you get and make the other person do
Speaker 1: a little bit more parenting. No, you're you're opening my
Speaker 1: eyes up to what Sam does now, Now I get exactly.
Speaker 1: Now you know what he's doing in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody goes in there without there, but we all stay
Speaker 1: a little longer than we should because of the phone.
Speaker 1: But when you have a kid, those few moments turned
Speaker 1: into another half hour. I mean, I can't feel my legs,
Speaker 1: but it's fine. I'm so uncomfortable. I hate body humor.
Speaker 1: I guess so comfortable. I'm like beat red. I saw that. Okay, Jesus,
Speaker 1: you have found my achilles heel. This is where like
Speaker 1: the buck stops here. Can't do it? Yeah, only only
Speaker 1: for guys. Women don't do that. You guys don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand. And my daughter, so you really know. You
Speaker 1: know the truth. I know the truth. It's a magical
Speaker 1: fairy um. And you don't even need to use the restroom.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can we talk about sports? We can?
Speaker 1: I thought we were. Oh my god, I'm dying. I'm dying. Okay.
Speaker 1: Us Openness is back this week. It was canceled last year.
Speaker 1: They're back at Flushing Meadows. It begins this weekend. Um.
Speaker 1: There are no spectators actually until the main draw again,
Speaker 1: that begins this weekend. The singles draw begins tonight Thursday.
Speaker 1: Main draw begins August. There's a lot to keep up with.
Speaker 1: I think something that's really significant is prize money in
Speaker 1: the US Open this year is bigger than ever, but
Speaker 1: it's down For the winner of both singles events, they're
Speaker 1: going to earn thirty five less than in nineteen. Despite
Speaker 1: the overall prize money is going up. Like I said,
Speaker 1: so the prize money for qualifying and the first three
Speaker 1: rounds of the main draw, that's what's going up if
Speaker 1: you're doing the math. But again the winners. Two point
Speaker 1: five million dollars is what the winner of both singles
Speaker 1: events will win. It was three million dollars the last
Speaker 1: time it was played in three point eight five million
Speaker 1: two years ago. What do you think would you even
Speaker 1: get out of bed for two point five million dollars?
Speaker 1: Who would get out of bed for that little amount
Speaker 1: of money? That's insane? Two point five that's what can
Speaker 1: you even buy with that? That'll get you like a
Speaker 1: studio apartment in Manhattan? No good, no good, that's not
Speaker 1: enough money to play and for two weeks that you
Speaker 1: wouldn't even get off the toilet for that much money.
Speaker 1: I would not get off the toilet for that money.
Speaker 1: I really would not. You know, it's funny that there
Speaker 1: will be no fans um. I often wonder if the
Speaker 1: tennis players get self conscious about their grunts because they
Speaker 1: don't have the you know, there's no fans. I mean
Speaker 1: there's they're quiet anyway, but at least with the people
Speaker 1: in the stadium, it kind of it softens it a
Speaker 1: little bit. Now you hear the full and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to here. There should be we should
Speaker 1: bet on who is gonna grunt and who's not. That's
Speaker 1: a big part of tennis. Let's talk to Peter Andrew later.
Speaker 1: If we can add that bet MGM dot com, that'd
Speaker 1: be a good one. Yeah, that's it's such a gentleman
Speaker 1: or general woman's sport. It's funny because like they're quiet
Speaker 1: during every play, so you can't curse, you can't say anything,
Speaker 1: you know, anything is uh is highlighted. It's like even
Speaker 1: if you like you get damn, people like what is
Speaker 1: wrong with that guy? Is he crazy? It's like he's
Speaker 1: allowed to show a little emotion. No, I've gotten a cover.
Speaker 1: Tennis up close and personal and it is it's there's
Speaker 1: so much attention on it and it's such a different
Speaker 1: sport in person than on TV. I've never been to
Speaker 1: a US Open, but that's that's on my bucket list.
Speaker 1: And there are so many good storylines this year, like
Speaker 1: Novak Djokovic. He's trying to win his first calendar year
Speaker 1: Grand Slam. If he does, he'd be the first to
Speaker 1: do so since nineteen sixty nine. It would also set
Speaker 1: a record, would be his twenty one major singles championship.
Speaker 1: That is incredible. He is the favorite at minus one
Speaker 1: thirty five on bet MGM right now. Rafael Nadal's out
Speaker 1: with a foot injury. He is not competing, so kind
Speaker 1: of with those odds. Do you like the Joker? I
Speaker 1: do like the Joker, especially since he's kind of rested
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think he had maybe some injuries
Speaker 1: that will play in him during the Olympics. And um,
Speaker 1: this this has been the I'm a huge tennis fan,
Speaker 1: and this era has been incredible because you're watching the
Speaker 1: three i think the three best tennis players of all
Speaker 1: time play in their prime at the same time against
Speaker 1: each other. And it's funny because Djokovic, he everyone always
Speaker 1: talks about Federal and Nadal, but you know, yeah, like
Speaker 1: you just said, joker is about to get twenty one.
Speaker 1: We know he's gonna get it. He could be the
Speaker 1: first one to win the Grand Slam in the calendar
Speaker 1: year since Rod Laverne sixty nine. And he's got a
Speaker 1: winning record of against both those guys, I believe now.
Speaker 1: So it's like, except for're on clay, you can so
Speaker 1: you can say Nadal is the best by far on
Speaker 1: clay of all time. But overall we may be looking
Speaker 1: at the go right now and he doesn't get the
Speaker 1: credit because he doesn't have that. I guess he's a
Speaker 1: little bit more. He's not that gentleman like we're talking about,
Speaker 1: like like Rafa and and Federer. You know, he comes
Speaker 1: from award torrent country, and he's a little he's a
Speaker 1: little harder, he's a little more competitive, and I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to see and he's he's the favorite by a lot.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's the great thing about tennis is
Speaker 1: anything can happen. And those three Medvedev and the Greek,
Speaker 1: my countrymen, those are the three that could give him problems.
Speaker 1: So it's it's fun to watch. I agree. I agree.
Speaker 1: Over to the women's side, Naomi Osaka, she's the defending
Speaker 1: Women's champion. She's seeking her fifth Grand Slam title. She
Speaker 1: wanted Flushing Meadows twice. Actually, However, ash Barti is the
Speaker 1: favorite to win at plus four hundred at bet MGM
Speaker 1: Naomi is right behind her at plus five hundred. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't bet on Osaka at the US Open this year,
Speaker 1: and here's why she's never defended her title the following year.
Speaker 1: She recently fell in the third round in Cincinnati, also
Speaker 1: a third round exit in Tokyo. She's an incredible hardcore talent.
Speaker 1: There's no denying her talent. She's going through so much
Speaker 1: right now in front of the world. I wouldn't take
Speaker 1: places with her for the world, but I think plus
Speaker 1: five hundred is too big a risk for osccer right now.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I agree with you, it's too
Speaker 1: she's a little unpredictable. I don't think she's really coming
Speaker 1: to her own as the dominant player she could be. Yet.
Speaker 1: You know, she's got, like you said, other stuff going on.
Speaker 1: She hasn't gone on that streak yet that like like
Speaker 1: the joker, like Serena Nadal at the French where it's
Speaker 1: like sure thing, like you just don't know. It's a
Speaker 1: toss up, so yeah, and you also got to throw
Speaker 1: Cocoa in there. Coco could take anybody out at any time.
Speaker 1: So I'm putting my money on Coco. I like yeah.
Speaker 1: And she's plus yeah, so you can win a lot
Speaker 1: of money betting on her. And she's playing well so
Speaker 1: and she could take out anyone at any time. She's
Speaker 1: got the home she'll have the home field advantage. So
Speaker 1: let's go Coco. I like that. Serena Williams also playing.
Speaker 1: She's plus fourteen hundred and so I think when you're
Speaker 1: putting your money on some of these bets. And we're
Speaker 1: going to talk to Peter Andrew about it later, but
Speaker 1: look at some of those second tier, the second line
Speaker 1: on the website as I'm looking at it now, look
Speaker 1: at some of those and I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: think you sleep on Serena Williams. Ever. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: never sleep on her, especially at the US Open. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just me being a dad, her being a mom.
Speaker 1: I know, when I when I go and do stand
Speaker 1: up now, I don't know if I'm giving a percent,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can't give. Yeah, she's a
Speaker 1: full time mom. It's tough she's she's the legend, she's
Speaker 1: the goat. You can never count her out though, for sure. YEA, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I know you've been watching a lot of boxing.
Speaker 1: In the Manu Pacio fight, he's forty two years old.
Speaker 1: He lost to your Dennis Sugas and he had cramping
Speaker 1: in both legs. That's kind of what he blamed it on. Um.
Speaker 1: I know there was some last minute scheduling with this.
Speaker 1: You're a boxing gurer, so walk me through that. How
Speaker 1: did this whole fight come to be? And why was
Speaker 1: it more last minute? He took it on last minute.
Speaker 1: I I don't know the details of why he took
Speaker 1: it early. I don't know. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: What happened there, but not too early. I mean they
Speaker 1: had a training camp and everything like that. Like you said,
Speaker 1: he's forty two. Not only is he forty two, he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of fights. He has a lot of miles,
Speaker 1: a lot of long fights, a lot of miles. He's
Speaker 1: also a senator in his country. He's thinking about a
Speaker 1: presidential run. He also sings horribly, So you ever hear
Speaker 1: him saying, I mean he's kind of you. You don't
Speaker 1: expect that Yeah, he puts out like pop songs and
Speaker 1: the Philippines are very funny and um for a for
Speaker 1: a boxer, you know, he sings pretty good. But he's
Speaker 1: got a lot of interests and a lot of miles
Speaker 1: on him. And I think this fight definitely showed that
Speaker 1: it's time to uh to hang up the gloves and
Speaker 1: go full time singer, full time president. I mean he's
Speaker 1: doing everything in the Philippines, but he's a legend, and
Speaker 1: uh it catches up with everybody, especially in boxing. And
Speaker 1: that he was able to go as long as he did,
Speaker 1: I think and he and he has it is great.
Speaker 1: He said it's sixty forty right, so he said he's
Speaker 1: still thinking about it, that he may continue. So he's
Speaker 1: six considering retired for percent considering coming back and fighting.
Speaker 1: I think he should just do the super fight fight
Speaker 1: one of the Paul brothers. Why not get one more
Speaker 1: big pay day and then he can buy the Philippines. Well,
Speaker 1: we don't have a clip of him singing, but we
Speaker 1: do have a clip of him talking about the odds
Speaker 1: of his retirement. Let's play that now. How will this
Speaker 1: performance influence your decision to either come back to the
Speaker 1: ring or retire right now, probably thinking about retirement. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not so. It is the last week
Speaker 1: of the NFL preseason, so I always think if you
Speaker 1: want to have fun betting, do it in the preseason
Speaker 1: when anything can happen. You never know who's playing, you
Speaker 1: never know what they're playing for. The lines are all
Speaker 1: over the place, but it's a lot of fun. So
Speaker 1: make sure to check out at MGM dot com to
Speaker 1: see the weekends lines. So this last week of the
Speaker 1: preseason started Monday night with a two point victory for
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints hosting the Jacksonville Jaguars. The reason
Speaker 1: this game was important is both teams are trying to
Speaker 1: figure out their starting quarterback. For New Orleans, it's Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill or Jamis Winston. Winston all but put it away.
Speaker 1: He was incredible. He got the start, he aired it
Speaker 1: out too deep passes to Markus Callaway. One was in
Speaker 1: the air for fifty three yards. That was incredible, and
Speaker 1: Saints with two good options at quarterback. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know why everyone's making such a big deal about who starts.
Speaker 1: Jamie seems to be head and shoulders above Taysom, but
Speaker 1: in such a different way, he's such a different quarterback,
Speaker 1: he's a true quarterback. And then bringing Tasom as kind
Speaker 1: of your trick play guy, your goal line package guy.
Speaker 1: So again it's August. It's much ado about nothing, but
Speaker 1: I think the Saints found their starter. Bet MGM has
Speaker 1: the Saints win total at nine point five. I would
Speaker 1: definitely play that, especially as Michael Thomas is supposed to
Speaker 1: make his return early in the season. That offense should
Speaker 1: be dynamic. Over with the Jaguars, they're also figuring out
Speaker 1: their quarterback between number one overall pick Trevor Lawrence and
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Again, it seems very obvious from a fan's perspective,
Speaker 1: picked the talent, picked the young guy. No one's expecting
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to be good this season, so might as
Speaker 1: well let your quarterback get his teeth wet, get his
Speaker 1: teeth plays, get his feet wet. But you know, getting
Speaker 1: your teeth wet, Yeah, okay, get your you have to
Speaker 1: hydrate well. Another big loss to Jacksonville, though, in this week,
Speaker 1: was that they lost their first round rookie running back
Speaker 1: Travis at t N He's out indefinitely with a foot
Speaker 1: spring he shattered all a C C rushing records during
Speaker 1: his time at Clemson. Obviously he played there with Revor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: They are comfortable that would have been entertainment and probably
Speaker 1: some good football, if not for the sake of winning
Speaker 1: some games. But it's an indefinite timetable. So that's update
Speaker 1: on the Jags. Looking forward to this weekend. The Bears
Speaker 1: did name Andy Dalton the Week one starter. Too many
Speaker 1: people's dismay. Honest, have you seen people grumbling about this?
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have not seen, and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: You're right, it's preseason. They want to just get it,
Speaker 1: you know, you want to get different looks, you want
Speaker 1: to see, you know, get everybody warmed up. So I
Speaker 1: don't understand. Well, I think they're gonna go with Dalton.
Speaker 1: He's the experience, but everyone likes justin fields. You're going
Speaker 1: to see both on Saturday, they play at the Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: so that's again a perk of preseason. You get to
Speaker 1: see what's out there. San Francisco. Last week we talked
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo is the starter, but Kyle Shanahan, the coach,
Speaker 1: is being pretty awkward about confirming that they host Las
Speaker 1: Vegas on Sunday and then the Patriots. You have the
Speaker 1: Cam verse Mac palindrome debacle. Have you heard that? The
Speaker 1: Cim versus NBC? I haven't, but I get it. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're with me. You got it. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. I'll be with you always. I'm your couch.
Speaker 1: When you say get your teeth wet, I'm there to
Speaker 1: back you up. Yes, that's an expression. I love it.
Speaker 1: But Belichick did name Cam Newton the starter, but basically
Speaker 1: says yes to earn it every week. So again that's
Speaker 1: the big storyline in this last week of the preseason.
Speaker 1: So for me, I'm circling every game with a quarterback debate.
Speaker 1: The Patriot to play the Giant Sunday night at five,
Speaker 1: their three and a half point favorite, and that's actually
Speaker 1: gone up a little bit as this week has gone on.
Speaker 1: So those are the games that matter if you're trying
Speaker 1: to place your money somewhere. I'd love to hear with
Speaker 1: what Mr Andrew has to say about all these factors
Speaker 1: that we're talking about with these qbs and what what
Speaker 1: what on the lines, Peter, Let's find out a lot
Speaker 1: to talk about there. But first we have a really
Speaker 1: good guest this week. I am so excited to bring
Speaker 1: in James Lofton Hall of Famer. He's an l a
Speaker 1: native Stanford, ALAM. He won the national championship at Stanford
Speaker 1: in the long jump. Obviously, he played college football there.
Speaker 1: Drafted six overall in nineteen seventy eight by the Packers,
Speaker 1: He's an eight time Pro bowler, played in three Super
Speaker 1: Bowls with the Bills, and in two thousand three he
Speaker 1: was inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, of course,
Speaker 1: the Packer Hall of Fame, where they've also retired his jersey.
Speaker 1: From there, he's gone on to coach and now he's
Speaker 1: in media. There's so much to get to with James Lofton.
Speaker 1: So without further ado, let's bring in the Hall of Famer. So, James,
Speaker 1: we are so glad you were on with us today,
Speaker 1: and I bet for your sake you're kind of glad
Speaker 1: to have another Harlan to talk with, right of course,
Speaker 1: So although I wonder if there will be a gloved
Speaker 1: catch during this period. You know, it's funny. We actually
Speaker 1: had my dad on the podcast, and then recently we
Speaker 1: were talking with the NFL films crew and he was
Speaker 1: talking about when he was a ball boy with the
Speaker 1: Packers when you were a player, and he said you
Speaker 1: would give the ball boys a tough time. Do you
Speaker 1: remember any of those stories? You know, these stories don't
Speaker 1: have to be accurate to be good. Now that's true.
Speaker 1: I am. I am positive that I did not give
Speaker 1: the ball boys a hard time and anything. I probably
Speaker 1: engage with them more than anybody else. Well, I know
Speaker 1: he speaks so fondly of that time. That was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And then how ironic to grow up
Speaker 1: both of you in your career, after your time with
Speaker 1: the Bills and coaching. Now you're in media and you
Speaker 1: all are calling Packer preseason games together. What's it like
Speaker 1: going back to do those games at Lambeau. I saw
Speaker 1: you tweeted the other day your retired number forever immortalized
Speaker 1: in the stadium. That must be a pretty cool feeling.
Speaker 1: It is a kick, But I will I will tell
Speaker 1: you this, when and I hear Kevin Harland doing a
Speaker 1: basketball game, I get the immediate urge to text him
Speaker 1: because I just you feel that connection when there's somebody
Speaker 1: that you've worked with, somebody that you're friends with, especially
Speaker 1: and they are, you know, doing these Marquee events. It's
Speaker 1: just hard not to want to reach out and say, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Is your dad like that in real life?
Speaker 1: As he does, he like call what he's doing in
Speaker 1: the house with that much further no. In fact, you know,
Speaker 1: he has four kids, three of them are girls, and
Speaker 1: we laugh sometimes at the dinner table we're all talking
Speaker 1: a mile a minute and he's been quiet for about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, and we'll say, well, Dad, what do you think?
Speaker 1: And he's like, I have no idea what the hell
Speaker 1: you guys are talking about? You talked so fas and James,
Speaker 1: you're right, father and grandfather. Do you ever feel like
Speaker 1: that that you kind of play second fiddle to your wife?
Speaker 1: Beverly Well, I remember when my kids were young, and
Speaker 1: now they're all in their thirties, but we used to
Speaker 1: play a game that I really enjoyed when I was driving,
Speaker 1: and it was called a quiet game, and we wanted
Speaker 1: to see how long the kids could be quiet in
Speaker 1: the car because I'm not a big talker, even though
Speaker 1: I talked for a living, and like your dad, he's
Speaker 1: probably not just a big talker naturally, but he enjoys
Speaker 1: the event. So when you are that type of person
Speaker 1: and you're not a talkative person. You actually enjoy a
Speaker 1: little bit of quiet now and then. Well, James, I
Speaker 1: know you're very hands on father and grandfather. I just
Speaker 1: saw you last week. You're showing me pictures of the grandkids.
Speaker 1: Such a beautiful family. What's your advice to Janice as
Speaker 1: a first time dad now to a little girl? That
Speaker 1: could take on more than just one segment, because what
Speaker 1: you really want to do, you want to be able
Speaker 1: to cast yourself into the future anytime there's a little hiccup,
Speaker 1: you know, when the diaper explodes, when the milk gets
Speaker 1: teated over and say, what what a wonderful moment that
Speaker 1: actually was eighteen nineteen years ago, Because you don't get
Speaker 1: those moments over and so you want to cherish every
Speaker 1: moment that you really can't as a father. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: realized as a father, there's a lot of audibles you
Speaker 1: gotta call. You have a play. Things are supposed to
Speaker 1: go a certain way, and the diaper explodes, and you
Speaker 1: really got to go off the cuff. You were talking
Speaker 1: about the silent treatment in the car, seeing how long
Speaker 1: the kids not not the not, the silent treatment, the
Speaker 1: silent game, the silent game, I'm sorry game because you
Speaker 1: want to challenge your kids. You know that you you
Speaker 1: don't get to talk until you see a yellow Volkswagen beetle.
Speaker 1: You know how rare those are now, very rare, very rare.
Speaker 1: On the field. How much talking did you do? How
Speaker 1: much trash talking goes on between the cornerback and the
Speaker 1: wide receiver when you're in game. I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot more going on now because I think the kids
Speaker 1: who are playing now are much more aware that they
Speaker 1: are on camera. They are because even within their own stadium,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on camera on the replay. So when
Speaker 1: I played, that was a lot different. You know, television
Speaker 1: didn't really factor into how we played the game, and
Speaker 1: now it does, with instant replays, with reviews, with challenges,
Speaker 1: everybody can see almost every play. You see players after
Speaker 1: plays over gazing up at the scoreboard looking to see
Speaker 1: what the last play was? Was a blocking assignment right?
Speaker 1: That I run my pattern right? So they are acutely
Speaker 1: aware of what's going on, and they do tend to
Speaker 1: chirp at one another a lot more than we did
Speaker 1: in my day. What else do you feel like it
Speaker 1: is a big difference from your day to kids now,
Speaker 1: And I say kids, you know, they're grown men in
Speaker 1: the NFL, of course, but but there's so much different
Speaker 1: off the field. What do you feel like translates most
Speaker 1: on the field when you look at the differences in time, Well,
Speaker 1: I think you wanted to get to know players. When
Speaker 1: we went back to Green Bays last week, I went
Speaker 1: by my old neighbor's house and I actually got to
Speaker 1: go into the house that I used to live in,
Speaker 1: and it's been remodeled about three or four times, so
Speaker 1: you know, the butts and goads of it were kind
Speaker 1: of the same, but everything else was different. And I
Speaker 1: think it's the same way in football that the game
Speaker 1: is the same, You're you're playing on the same size field,
Speaker 1: different things like that. But the rules have been tweaked
Speaker 1: just enough from the late nineties to the way the
Speaker 1: game is played now. And I even played in the
Speaker 1: late seventies, So when you even look at the players,
Speaker 1: a big offensive lineman used to be a two sixty
Speaker 1: pound guy. Now that's a small tight end. So just
Speaker 1: the physicality of the game is different. And like you said,
Speaker 1: we get to know the players a little more off
Speaker 1: the field through their own social media, So you you
Speaker 1: have a kind of a feeling of what they're like
Speaker 1: as people and what their thoughts are about. What was
Speaker 1: it like for you playing in Green Bay? I mean,
Speaker 1: were you prepared for that level of cold coming from
Speaker 1: where you came from? Yeah, I came from southern California,
Speaker 1: And so what I had to do is I had
Speaker 1: to redefine what the word cold meant, because because as
Speaker 1: a kid from California, cold is when it's fifty degrees
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be cold, and you gotta bundle up
Speaker 1: and do all this kind of stuff, and fifty degree
Speaker 1: day in Green Bay is a reason to wear shorts.
Speaker 1: It was a lot different, but I I really took
Speaker 1: it as a badge of honor to try and play
Speaker 1: well in the cold weather. And I remember the very
Speaker 1: first cold practice we had. We were standing out on
Speaker 1: the old AstroTurf field outside and my fingers were just numb.
Speaker 1: I didn't have on gloves, and bart Star handed me
Speaker 1: one of those little tiny hand heaters and he said, here,
Speaker 1: this will help. And I remember thinking to myself, no,
Speaker 1: it's not helping. What would be helping is if we
Speaker 1: move this stadium to southern California. That might have helped
Speaker 1: a little bit, James. He brought up bart Star. That's,
Speaker 1: you know, as big a packer player as there is
Speaker 1: in history. What are some of your memories of him
Speaker 1: as you as you think about your time together. I have,
Speaker 1: I have so many memories about bart They can have
Speaker 1: like a little uh blackard in my den that Barton
Speaker 1: Cherry gave us after we got married, and two paraphrases says,
Speaker 1: do not look for perfection in your mate where you
Speaker 1: will not find it, and it goes on and on
Speaker 1: and on. It says a couple of other real rosy things.
Speaker 1: But so he's somebody I think about every day. And
Speaker 1: I also trying pattern a little bit of my life
Speaker 1: over one of his other things, because he said you
Speaker 1: can judge the true measurable man by how he treat
Speaker 1: someone who can do nothing for him. And when when
Speaker 1: I say that, I still get chills because I can
Speaker 1: remember sitting in the St. Norbert's auditorium during training camp
Speaker 1: when he said that, and he was really relaying it
Speaker 1: to something else that was going on, because we were
Speaker 1: keeping the locker room a little messy, and we weren't
Speaker 1: going trash into trash can. We weren't thilling the laundry
Speaker 1: and the laundry bins, and he said, you can tell
Speaker 1: the true measure of a man by how he treats
Speaker 1: someone who can do nothing for him. And that just
Speaker 1: still brings to my soul. Kind of on that note,
Speaker 1: in a nostalgia mindset, every year going to Canton for
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame induction must be a very special
Speaker 1: part of the year for you. What were your impressions
Speaker 1: this year? Well, this year, because it was doubled up,
Speaker 1: you had lost which was a huge class of twenty people,
Speaker 1: and then class was going to be eight people. So
Speaker 1: now you have to account for twenty eight people, and
Speaker 1: not only people, but their family and their friends, their entourages,
Speaker 1: the clubs that come to see So during the course
Speaker 1: of the weekend it seemed like things were going fast forward.
Speaker 1: You would see somebody who was associated with a player
Speaker 1: or a coach that was going in or an administrator
Speaker 1: and go, okay, you're here to see that person. They
Speaker 1: don't know I'm actually here to see some and and
Speaker 1: so it was just this ball of confusion. But he's
Speaker 1: a good ball of confusion. Do you have to have
Speaker 1: a great memory to be an NFL player? Because there's
Speaker 1: so many guys on the team. Have you ever run
Speaker 1: into any problems remembering anyone who's on your team with
Speaker 1: without a doubt? And not even that for me, having
Speaker 1: been a player, a coach, and a broadcaster, there's a
Speaker 1: blurred line between was that guy my teammate? Did I?
Speaker 1: Did I coach him? Or did I just call games
Speaker 1: that he played in? And there have been a couple
Speaker 1: of players that that the answer that yes, all three.
Speaker 1: So I've had teammates. I've had guys that I ended
Speaker 1: up coaching who are also my teammates. And and it
Speaker 1: was funny when I was coaching with the San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1: Every week you give your players a test on different
Speaker 1: assignments and things like that, and then I give him
Speaker 1: an odd ball test. And I told them on this
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers team, there are two players that were
Speaker 1: my teammates. Who were they? So they start scrambling around.
Speaker 1: They find the media guy, Steve Christie, who's a kicker
Speaker 1: for the Chargers, was also the kicker in Buffalo and
Speaker 1: was a kicker while I was there in Buffalo. They
Speaker 1: can't figure out the next person. I said, I said,
Speaker 1: you guys have to figure it out, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. Weeks go by, months go by. Finally they're
Speaker 1: going tell us who the last person was because we
Speaker 1: cannot figure it out. We've looked, We've talked to guys
Speaker 1: around the locker room. Nobody knows. I go, okay, Junior
Speaker 1: say out. They go, wait a minute, you didn't play
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. No, the last Pro Bowl that I
Speaker 1: played in, Junior say, I was on my team. We
Speaker 1: worked teammates. Yeah, there you have it. They didn't think,
Speaker 1: They did not think about that. Oh, that's funny. Speaking
Speaker 1: of all all your Pro Bowl trips, eight times named
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowler, who were some players that you never
Speaker 1: got a chance to play with on a team outside
Speaker 1: of there that really left an impression on you. Who's
Speaker 1: someone who just made you laugh, made you think about
Speaker 1: the game difference, something like that. Well, the quarterbacks were
Speaker 1: always front and center. And the very first Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: that I played in, and I still get a kick
Speaker 1: out of saying this, my two quarterbacks were Roger Stabat
Speaker 1: and Archie Manning the other Manning, not Peyton or Eli,
Speaker 1: but the other man. So that was always pretty neat.
Speaker 1: And I remember one trip back from Aloha Stadium back
Speaker 1: to the Hilton Hawaian Village, which is about the thirty
Speaker 1: minute bus ride. I sat down next to Joe Tisman
Speaker 1: and I remember saying hey, Joe, and then he proceeded
Speaker 1: to talk for the next thirty minutes. He has the
Speaker 1: gift of gab where he just kept going and going,
Speaker 1: and he was talking about all his future plans and
Speaker 1: what he planned to do, and you know he accomplished
Speaker 1: most of them. What are you what are you looking
Speaker 1: for this upcoming season? Who are some of your favorites
Speaker 1: going in? Some of your favorites at your position? Well,
Speaker 1: when when you say favorites, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: former teams that you played for, Croper. You know, this
Speaker 1: week in the preseason when we're filming this Buffalo and
Speaker 1: Green Bear play. Naturally, those are two teams that are
Speaker 1: right on that Super Bowl cusp that are expected to
Speaker 1: be at least in the a f C and NFC
Speaker 1: championship games. So that be great. Another former team, the Raiders,
Speaker 1: are opening up a brand new stadium and its interesting
Speaker 1: in their stadium last year was brand new, but Mark Davis,
Speaker 1: the owner, decided if the fans can't go, I'm not
Speaker 1: even going to the game, and so they're starting out
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football this year, and so a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement there. In terms of players they're they're just
Speaker 1: so many. And the thing that, especially from my position,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to know who's the best receiver, and it
Speaker 1: varies ever so slightly from week to week. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like the p G a Professional golf association. The
Speaker 1: number one ranked player in the world fluctuates depending upon
Speaker 1: what place he was in and this and that. So
Speaker 1: if you really want, they're probably ten really great receivers,
Speaker 1: more so than there were in the seventies and eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties, because teams just throw the ball so much,
Speaker 1: they're so proficient at throwing it, and people practice it
Speaker 1: a lot more than they ever used to. What makes
Speaker 1: a great receiver? You always hear about the prototype six
Speaker 1: three six for what he can on, But then you
Speaker 1: see guys like Julian Edelman who are of that prototype,
Speaker 1: who put up big numbers, who are very resourceful. What
Speaker 1: is it that makes a great receiver? So in part
Speaker 1: of your question, you kind of answered it because you
Speaker 1: say big numbers, and not only do you put up
Speaker 1: big numbers, but you put up important numbers and in
Speaker 1: addition to that, the other team cannot stop you. So
Speaker 1: I used to say it was the four essence. Let
Speaker 1: me see if I got this right, size, speed, strength,
Speaker 1: and skill. Yeah, yeah, four. So I I was right.
Speaker 1: And so you can have guys of different sizes, different speeds.
Speaker 1: A guy that that comes off the tongue first is
Speaker 1: probably Davante Adam because he doesn't have a Robin to
Speaker 1: go along with him. That is of significant. The second
Speaker 1: receivers for the Green Bay Packers are all decent players,
Speaker 1: but they don't have a second receiver who's catching sixty
Speaker 1: five or seventy passes. It's Davante Adams was about a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty. And so if you're the defense and
Speaker 1: you go into the game and you go, we have
Speaker 1: to stop Davante Adams, and corner after corner, linebacker after linebacker,
Speaker 1: safety after safety sliding in that direction, they can't stop
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. So is it Davante Adams is unstoppable or
Speaker 1: is it unstoppable where you can't stop Aaron Rodgers from
Speaker 1: getting in the ball. So it's it's that combination between
Speaker 1: the two. And when you mentioned Julian Edelman, yeah, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady thrown to him, and you couldn't stop Tom Brady
Speaker 1: from throwing the ball to Julian Edelman. So you look
Speaker 1: around the league and there are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: like that who can dominate and dictate the course of
Speaker 1: the game. James sticking with the Packers, and you brought
Speaker 1: up Aaron Rodgers. I think players from your generation have
Speaker 1: a hard time grasping, um, how much money they're making,
Speaker 1: the demands they're making, the kind of hot and cloud. Recently,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said he was fifty fifty on even playing
Speaker 1: this season. What was your take on the whole thing?
Speaker 1: Is someone so close with the Suckers and covering them
Speaker 1: this preseason? You know, I watched it kind of developed,
Speaker 1: and I knew that there was a dropped dead day,
Speaker 1: and that dropped dead day was kind of like when
Speaker 1: training camp started, and so everything that you were talking
Speaker 1: about had you had to drop at that point and
Speaker 1: you had to resolve it. Because I really believe that
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers wanted to play and has a desire to
Speaker 1: play and love's playing, and as good a host as
Speaker 1: he was on Jeopardy, I think he realized that that
Speaker 1: could wait. Something like that could wait in football. Normally,
Speaker 1: once you walk away, you don't get to come back.
Speaker 1: You know, occasionally a guy gets to come back and
Speaker 1: comes back a year later and he finds out that, yeah,
Speaker 1: I should have just stayed retire. So for Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: you know, he has this other guy out there who's
Speaker 1: running the Ultra Marathon and Tom Brady, And I think
Speaker 1: Tom's is Tom forty four. This year is forty three.
Speaker 1: Right now, we've kind of forgotten how old Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is because it's it's not part of the discussion. Once
Speaker 1: he turned forty and then after he continue to play
Speaker 1: pass four? Do you want you go, huh, well, maybe
Speaker 1: you can play until he's fifty. The rules allow for
Speaker 1: quarterbacks not to get hit as much or as often,
Speaker 1: but they still get hit. And for Aaron Rodgers, I'm
Speaker 1: just glad that he's back in uniform and uh we
Speaker 1: get to watch him play for one, two, three, four
Speaker 1: more years. What do you think has to happen this
Speaker 1: season in Green Bay for him to stay longer. I
Speaker 1: think for them to back up the Brinks truck a
Speaker 1: little more. And I think I think it's money and
Speaker 1: a little bit of money is power. There's been some
Speaker 1: discussion that he didn't have, you know, say, on who's
Speaker 1: on the roster. And I can totally understand that from
Speaker 1: general manager's perspective or from a head coach's perspective, because
Speaker 1: players get attached to other players for for reason. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's because the player is a good player, sometimes because
Speaker 1: he's a good friend, he's a good fishing buddy or
Speaker 1: something like that, and you want that guy around. And
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, they have to make tough decisions, the
Speaker 1: coaches and the general managic did see. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's money. I think what you said he wanted more
Speaker 1: to say. I think he was blindsided by the La
Speaker 1: Fleur higher, which seems crazy to me because it fits
Speaker 1: him so well. He's an offensive coach, he's a young guy.
Speaker 1: I I feel like the Packers are doing as much
Speaker 1: as they can to make Aaron comfortable, But as a
Speaker 1: Packer fan myself, it's just tough to watch the whole
Speaker 1: thing unfold. So the point of my question was, is
Speaker 1: it super Bowl or bust? Do you think to get
Speaker 1: Aaron to want to stay in Green Bay. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard to duplicate the last two years
Speaker 1: where they've been thirteen and three, they been an offensive
Speaker 1: juggernaut because so much is out of control. Last year,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs for by far the best team
Speaker 1: during the regular season. They is both their offensive tackles
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl and they look like a team
Speaker 1: does during the preseason where they can't protect the quarterback.
Speaker 1: So if you can stay healthy, if everybody can stay healthy,
Speaker 1: you can you can have a chance to do those things.
Speaker 1: But it's hard to replicate year after year. Honest, did
Speaker 1: you know you were on a Packer home podcast? I
Speaker 1: did not. Yeah, I feel like I'm I'm yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel like I should have a cheese head on right now. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this question. Everyone nowadays is obsessed
Speaker 1: with goat lists, greatest of all Time list wide receiver.
Speaker 1: If you had to pick five all time, who are
Speaker 1: your five all time greatest wide receivers? Well, see that.
Speaker 1: The toughest thing is that the receiver who I put
Speaker 1: number one, I've never seen him play. I've seen some
Speaker 1: grainy footage of him, and that would be Don Hudson.
Speaker 1: Because when Don Hudson played but the Bears had a
Speaker 1: Sid Luckman Hall of Fame quarterback, there was a year
Speaker 1: that Don Hudson had more receiving yards and said Luckman
Speaker 1: had passing yards. Transfer that to today's game. There's a
Speaker 1: receiver who just had five thousand yards and receptions during
Speaker 1: the year. How good would he be? I mean, what
Speaker 1: would what would he look like? He'd looked like I
Speaker 1: guess he looked like Don Johnson running through a bunch
Speaker 1: of Kevin Harts. But so you take Don Hudson and
Speaker 1: you put him number one on the list because he
Speaker 1: kind of invented the passing game. And then I think
Speaker 1: you you really have to look at guys who played
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl era and just because the game
Speaker 1: was different, they didn't have sticky gloves, they didn't have
Speaker 1: field curve to play off, so it's it's it's different.
Speaker 1: So I hate doing it. You're you're not there, twist
Speaker 1: my arm. I'm not gonna do it, but I would
Speaker 1: you know, I would be I would be number six.
Speaker 1: You can play yourself, I mean six, you know, just
Speaker 1: like when they had the hundred greatest NFL players, I
Speaker 1: was one on one. I'm pretty sure about that. Oh
Speaker 1: that's funny. Well, this weekend you are calling Packers at Bills,
Speaker 1: your two former teams. You've brought up if it were
Speaker 1: a regular season game that mattered, who would you cheer for?
Speaker 1: Am I am I broadcasting the game? What am I doing?
Speaker 1: Is the game just going one? You're not broadcasting. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, I feel like I know Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers a little more than I know Josh Allen, And
Speaker 1: so it was funny. The first time I ran in
Speaker 1: d Aaron Rodgers off the field was here in San Diego,
Speaker 1: and he had but he was in about his fifth
Speaker 1: year and I saw him. He was at Ladanian Tomlinson's
Speaker 1: golf tournament, and I'm looking at him, going, that guy
Speaker 1: looks familiar because he had only started one or two
Speaker 1: years at the time. I'm going, I think that, Nah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not sure. I think that's Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And I wonder where I said, James Lofton goes high.
Speaker 1: I'm Aaron Rodgers. Of course I forgot that you lived
Speaker 1: out here, So you know, those associations don't go way easy.
Speaker 1: I have been invited by the Packers twice to announce
Speaker 1: players at the NFL Draft, and I am two for two.
Speaker 1: And when I say two for two, we're talking about
Speaker 1: Grand Slams out of the park, longest home run ever hit.
Speaker 1: I don't know Jenkins, Mississippi State and Davante Adams. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good, not that out of the part. I don't
Speaker 1: know why the Packers do not have me do it
Speaker 1: every year. Seriously. Yeah, you need to you need to
Speaker 1: talk to him about that. That's pretty good. This is
Speaker 1: always something that has interested me. And I've never asked
Speaker 1: any player or former player this question, but briefs, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I used to always be the question when you're when
Speaker 1: the game comes down to it, right, when it comes
Speaker 1: down to a final play and it's on the foot
Speaker 1: of a field goal kicker, how does that feel like?
Speaker 1: Is that? Do you know? Do you feel like you
Speaker 1: want to be out there to win the game or
Speaker 1: do you feel like it's anticlimactic that it ends up
Speaker 1: being on a guy who doesn't play the whole game
Speaker 1: and then comes in and determines the game. But you
Speaker 1: know what, nobody plays the whole game. Good. Everybody. Everybody's
Speaker 1: out there in their particular time and doing their thing.
Speaker 1: And I was really fortunate early in my career we
Speaker 1: had jon stan Route come to Green Bay and he
Speaker 1: came there and he was there during the season. Maybe
Speaker 1: he was there early as eight one in my state,
Speaker 1: eight three or eighty four. But here's the guy who
Speaker 1: played in the sick late in the sixties, and so
Speaker 1: when he came to Green Bay, he was already like
Speaker 1: older than everybody else on the team. And I remember
Speaker 1: we ran wind sprints after practice where you run over
Speaker 1: and back, over and back, and you're basically ran two
Speaker 1: hundred yards and you run about four of those. Well,
Speaker 1: jon sten Rude ran with the receivers, and he beat
Speaker 1: half the guys. You know. The other guys would would say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we've been practicing all day and he's just coming over
Speaker 1: to run. But he had been a ski jumper. He
Speaker 1: was a terrific athlete. So right then and there the
Speaker 1: thing about oh them not being good athletes, Well, you
Speaker 1: go out and try and kick the ball. That that's
Speaker 1: an athletic skill. So I've never, you know, looked at
Speaker 1: the kicker as the guy who's less than anybody else
Speaker 1: on the roster. Wow, okay, James, I've just won more
Speaker 1: for you. As we look back at the whole career,
Speaker 1: I got plenty of time. Okay, we left hearing that
Speaker 1: love you and that one question to look back on
Speaker 1: my whole career. Yeah, that's its gon no, And I
Speaker 1: want to focus on the coaching part that whole chapter
Speaker 1: after you played, I think as the season begins, And
Speaker 1: we had Ron Dworsky on last week and he said
Speaker 1: he was a proponent that no coach should have been
Speaker 1: fired last year because of all the difficulties that COVID presented.
Speaker 1: And I can definitely appreciate that. What do fans not
Speaker 1: know about the coaching carousel? Because I've seen glimpses of
Speaker 1: it from my background covering the league and being around
Speaker 1: my my dad and my grandpa. It's a very tough
Speaker 1: gig on the person, on the individual, on the family.
Speaker 1: Um coach. Coaching is a is a tough line of work.
Speaker 1: What do fans need to know going into a new
Speaker 1: football season about what it's like to be a coach.
Speaker 1: I think that they work a lot longer hours than
Speaker 1: than you really could imagine. I remember going to my
Speaker 1: first coaching interview and it was right after I retired
Speaker 1: and I didn't take the job, and Ted marcher Broda
Speaker 1: was the offensive coordinator. Well, no, I take that back.
Speaker 1: He was the head coach of the Indianapolis Colts and
Speaker 1: he had been my offensive coordinator with the Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: and Ted I just love he was. He's kind of
Speaker 1: like your grandfather, you know. He saw spoken very nice
Speaker 1: and he go he would always whenever he talk to you,
Speaker 1: go Jim, I mean James, I mean, I do mean James.
Speaker 1: He said, we don't work long hours here. He said,
Speaker 1: Monday to Thursday, we worked from six to eleven and
Speaker 1: Friday you're home by dinner by eight o'clock. And I went,
Speaker 1: did he just say six to eleven am to eleven
Speaker 1: pm Monday to Thursday and Friday you're home by dinner
Speaker 1: by eight o'clock. And I thought to myself, So I
Speaker 1: didn't take the job. I did take the job almost
Speaker 1: ten years later. And it was interesting when I had
Speaker 1: a chance to interview for head coaching job. And you
Speaker 1: go in and you give the person that you're you know,
Speaker 1: talking to your schedule and and I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with I have some unique views
Speaker 1: about the hours that coaches work. And I said, Monday,
Speaker 1: after a game, we're out of the office at six o'clock.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the coaches back in the
Speaker 1: office until ten am Tuesday morning. We'll work until ten
Speaker 1: pm that night if we can't come up with a
Speaker 1: game plan for our next opponent, and a game plan
Speaker 1: that is really repetitive because you're you're just adding a
Speaker 1: few things that are specific to the team that you're
Speaker 1: about to face. If we can't come up with a
Speaker 1: game plan in twelve hours, we don't need to be coaching. Wow.
Speaker 1: And and the person looked at me, stop their teeth
Speaker 1: a little bit. Those I don't like that. I want
Speaker 1: to have my coaches in their offices and I want
Speaker 1: them they're burning the midnight oil. And I said, when
Speaker 1: you burn the midnight oil, all you do is run
Speaker 1: out of oil. And so I really believe that coaches
Speaker 1: need to be fresh. Uh. And I see my friends
Speaker 1: who are assistant coaches now late in the season in
Speaker 1: October and November, and they looked like they haven't slept
Speaker 1: since June. So it's it's a tough it's a tough,
Speaker 1: tough job, and you sacrifice a lot of time being
Speaker 1: away from your family. My my daughter, my youngest, who
Speaker 1: was really at home when I was doing all the coaching.
Speaker 1: The boys are kind of off in college that you
Speaker 1: just never got to meet any of my friends, and
Speaker 1: that was like, oh, you know, hitting below the belt,
Speaker 1: but it was it was honest. Well, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: answered that. I think a lot of people are so
Speaker 1: tough on coordinators and position coaches, especially because they don't
Speaker 1: know what all goes on behind the scenes. So thanks
Speaker 1: for answering that. James offten Hall of Famer, this was
Speaker 1: a true treat. You can catch him on CBS NFL Sundays,
Speaker 1: Westwood One. That's we've gotten to share the air waves together.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun, and doing Packer preseason
Speaker 1: right now on Packer TV network and some of them
Speaker 1: are airing on NFL Network. You can keep up with
Speaker 1: him on Twitter as well. James, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining us. I thought you were gonna say you can't
Speaker 1: get rid of him here out of him, Well, Janice
Speaker 1: was probably gonna say that, so I said it before
Speaker 1: he did. Hey, well you know you said we you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta be fresh, so we could keep you here
Speaker 1: all night, like if you're still coaching, we could keep going.
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Speaker 1: a high over under last week. I'm looking at one
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Speaker 1: Thirty eight too high for your comfort? There. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do like it over today, but it's not that game.
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to expect with those with
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Speaker 1: Where I do like the over I know we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before, is where there's QB controversy, where they're
Speaker 1: gonna be playing a lot of the game Niners Raiders
Speaker 1: over thirty five and a half. I think there's a
Speaker 1: big expectation that Jimmy and Trey Lance will play lots
Speaker 1: of the game. I know we still haven't announced a
Speaker 1: quarterback at in San Francisco, so I think Trey is
Speaker 1: going to continue to do everything he can, like last
Speaker 1: week to put up some points on the board. So
Speaker 1: as long as those two are in the game, I
Speaker 1: expected to be somewhat high scoring. They probably covered the
Speaker 1: three and a half as well. Um, So really like
Speaker 1: the over there all right? Very nice? How about the
Speaker 1: US Open? You paying attention to the US Open at all?
Speaker 1: Is there any money to be made betting on anyone
Speaker 1: else besides Joker to win it? Yeah, it's tough. I
Speaker 1: mean it's Jokers to lose. We obviously know he's going
Speaker 1: for the Calendar Grand Slam. I still like Barrett Tiny
Speaker 1: again who he happened to play in the Wimbledon final,
Speaker 1: Betts plus thirty three hundred, So I think if you're
Speaker 1: taking something, uh, you may be balanced out. Take Joker
Speaker 1: minus one thirty five, but also put a little money
Speaker 1: on the board, try to try to risk it a
Speaker 1: bit on the On the women's side, it's probably Party
Speaker 1: who I'm going with. She's plus three fifty. She is
Speaker 1: the favorite, but I think she's there for a reason.
Speaker 1: So I'm staying in life for now. I think I
Speaker 1: need to see a couple of games, and of course
Speaker 1: we can live bettered a bit as the tournament goes
Speaker 1: on and we see kind of where the performance lies
Speaker 1: across some of the others. From your perspective at the
Speaker 1: sports book, have you noticed Nami Osaka's off court publicity
Speaker 1: and storyline overall affecting her odds? Yeah, people are staying away.
Speaker 1: So I think people are very careful. You know. Of course,
Speaker 1: when some things happen and she ends up dropping out
Speaker 1: of a tournament, we do voids and bets in specific instances,
Speaker 1: but I think people as a whole are just kind
Speaker 1: of careful and stay away, and it opens up I
Speaker 1: think for some of them, maybe the longer shots, to
Speaker 1: have a chance to jump in, especially on that part
Speaker 1: of the bracket where she would be as the one
Speaker 1: or the two or the three, sive, etcetera. So it
Speaker 1: is weird, but I think that will kind of stuff
Speaker 1: do as we go on a little bit and we
Speaker 1: get through this little period. What's the line on Serena.
Speaker 1: Serena's plus fourteen, She's always someone there. I think she
Speaker 1: plays well at Arthur Ash, so that's someone to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. Again, I think she's just a little
Speaker 1: bit too overinflated in terms of where where she isn't
Speaker 1: in the rankings. So that's typically why I stay away.
Speaker 1: Party is just above and beyond better than most. So
Speaker 1: that's why plus three I think is the move you mentioned.
Speaker 1: Djokovic at minus one thirty five. He worries me a
Speaker 1: little bit because he struggled with injuries in Tokyo, falling
Speaker 1: short of a gold medal. He went threw from some
Speaker 1: past events due to what he says is fatigued, So
Speaker 1: I feel like that's either going to go one of
Speaker 1: two ways. He's either going to come out swinging literally
Speaker 1: and feel amazing and sharp. But does any of that
Speaker 1: concern you if you're wanting to back the Joker? It does,
Speaker 1: But I kind of agree with you there. I think
Speaker 1: the fatigue kind of you know, it hit him hard
Speaker 1: while he was at the Olympics and for some of
Speaker 1: those smaller ATP tournaments. But if he's gonna come back
Speaker 1: completely refreshed, he knows what's at stake. Um, So I
Speaker 1: think he does come back looking like the Joker of late,
Speaker 1: you know, in the last three majors and certainly over
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So I don't have as
Speaker 1: big a fear or some but certainly have to be Okay,
Speaker 1: Peter Andrew, thanks so much for always giving us good advice.
Speaker 1: We'll see how you do another five and weekend. I
Speaker 1: love Peter. I feel like I want to replace my
Speaker 1: business manager with him. Five and Oh he's doing better
Speaker 1: than my business manager right now, making more money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he does five and Oh, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good. He's undefeated last week. But I don't know
Speaker 1: how much of a tennis fan he is, so we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. But that was a great show. I
Speaker 1: had a great time, Olivia. I always have a great
Speaker 1: time with you. I did to my friend, and you
Speaker 1: got James Lofton to really open up. So well done you.
Speaker 1: He's great, isn't he. Yeah, But I mean you know
Speaker 1: him personally, so I feel like that was you. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're the one who opens people up. I'm
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