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Speaker 1: My name is Clay Nukleman.

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Speaker 2: This is a production of the Bear Grease podcast called

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Speaker 2: The Bear Grease Render, where we render down, dive deeper,

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Speaker 2: and look behind the scenes of the actual Bear Grease

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Speaker 2: podcast presented by f h F Gear American Maid, purpose

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Speaker 2: built hunting and fishing gear that's designed to be as

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Speaker 2: rugged as the place as we explore. So I'm holding

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Speaker 2: in my hand my right hand, the femur bone of

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Speaker 2: an American black bear, a big one. This is the

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Speaker 2: black bear bone of the of the bear that I

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Speaker 2: call Rockslide, which ild in on November thirtieth, twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 2: on the very last day of the Arkansas bear season,

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Speaker 2: killed the National Forest. It's a long story. But the

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Speaker 2: reason I'm holding it is that this is kind of

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Speaker 2: a celebration that this event. Y'all be in here today

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Speaker 2: as a celebration because this Friday I will turn in

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Speaker 2: the full manuscript for my book American Bear, to all

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Speaker 2: turn it into Penguin Random House.

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Speaker 1: It really is two and a half years and al

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Speaker 1: there's a section book.

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Speaker 2: There's a section in the book where I quote a

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Speaker 2: man named John Lawson who was a first contact European

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Speaker 2: with the San Tee tribe in modern day South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: And he said that it was. He said that the

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Speaker 2: when they and when they when when their people, when

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Speaker 2: their people died, he watched them do this and reported

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Speaker 2: it is that they would rub bear oil on the

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Speaker 2: corpse and leave it until the meat rotted off the bone.

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Speaker 2: Then they would take the bones of their ancestors and

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Speaker 2: keep them in wooden boxes. And yearly they would pull

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Speaker 2: the bones out of the boxes and oil them with

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Speaker 2: bear grease. And he and the quote was, he said,

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Speaker 2: it is not uncommon for a man to have the

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Speaker 2: bones of his grandfather in the place that he stayed. Interesting,

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Speaker 2: this is this is the kind of data info the

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Speaker 2: tea that you're going to get from this book.

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Speaker 3: And this is what coffee time conversations have been.

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Speaker 4: Like you have inhouse.

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Speaker 1: Well that is vaguely related to that.

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Speaker 2: I have the bone of that bear, the femur bone,

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Speaker 2: which is really impressive.

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Speaker 1: You know, in my hand.

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Speaker 4: That was a big bear too.

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Speaker 2: It was it was at least four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: fifty pound bear. I think five hundred pound bear. And

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Speaker 2: but what was interesting about all the boreal peoples of

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Speaker 2: the whole planet, So in the northern hemisphere, you know,

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Speaker 2: the boreal, the the the plants, animals of the of

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Speaker 2: America in the boreal regions is pretty similar to all

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Speaker 2: around the globe, you know, and all the boreal people's

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Speaker 2: had this a very similar ideology ideology about the bones

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Speaker 2: of bears. Most other animals could be disposed of just

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Speaker 2: however you need to dispose of them. You eat a deer,

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Speaker 2: you just kind of pitch its bones out. A bear

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Speaker 2: not so reverential ceremonial disposal of bare bones, because dogs

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Speaker 2: could never touch a barebone, so a lot of times

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Speaker 2: they would put them in rivers, a lot of times

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Speaker 2: they would bury them like humans. Incredible documentation all across

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Speaker 2: the world of ceremonial disposal.

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Speaker 1: Of bare bones.

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Speaker 2: It just and what that does to me is it

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Speaker 2: makes me think about kind of our Western ideology ideology

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Speaker 2: about wildlife, Like basically, wildlife is something we revere, but

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Speaker 2: really it's a it's kind of a thing put here

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Speaker 2: for us to use in a utilitarian way. And these

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Speaker 2: people would have used those animals in the utilitarian way.

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Speaker 2: They would have eaten them, they would have made bear grease,

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Speaker 2: they would have used the hides for blankets, and they

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Speaker 2: would have used the animal the same way they But I

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Speaker 2: feel like they had a pretty robust doctrine that you

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Speaker 2: I don't think that the bones of this bear are alive.

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Speaker 2: I don't think his spirit is in this bone. But

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Speaker 2: it does challenge me to like be pretty serious about

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Speaker 5: Would there be a modern equivalent to carrying your family's.

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Speaker 4: Bones with you and oiling them down every year? I

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Speaker 1: Not down in Mississippi.

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Speaker 4: If you know somebody that pictures on your phone, I

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome to the bear grease render we have with

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Speaker 2: us today, doctor mister Newcombe. So glad you're here. Brent

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Speaker 2: Reeves chair. Brent is basically dead to us. I mean,

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Speaker 2: like he hadn't been here months. He's just off strolling

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Speaker 4: Him with case knives. He like lays in a bed

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Speaker 4: of case knives.

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Speaker 2: I saw a video of him the other day jumping

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Speaker 2: into a kiddie pool full of case nights. I saw

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Speaker 2: that one too, disappearing into them. Just a joke, Okay,

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Speaker 2: So Misty is in Brent's chair. We have Josh Lambridge spilmmaker,

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Speaker 2: and then in the Covi's hot seat literally in the

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Speaker 2: Ta Covia's hot Seat rock and chair.

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Speaker 1: And we said this before, but the Covi's hot Seat.

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Speaker 2: Rocking chair actually has a pair of Covis on the

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Speaker 2: front of the rock and chair. Is the one and

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Speaker 2: only Lake Pickle Backward University. Drove here, drove straight here

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Speaker 2: this morning from Mississippi.

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Speaker 4: I did, oh, you're welcome, happy to be.

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Speaker 1: Here, and uh, we've got a lot to cover.

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Speaker 2: You may or may not have seen the CBS Sunday

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Speaker 2: Morning episode that came out by legendary broadcast American journalist

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Speaker 2: Ted Copple, And uh, that's what we're gonna spend quite

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Speaker 2: a bit of time today talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Mister, how would you describe Ted.

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Speaker 3: Copple the just the man that hung out with us?

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Speaker 1: No, well, just for someone who wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: Know who that was, Okay, okay, Yeah, there's.

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Speaker 1: An age demographic.

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Speaker 3: There's definitely an age demographic.

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Speaker 6: So I actually when when Clay said Ted Copple was gonna,

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Speaker 6: you know, was interested in coming to bear Camp and

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Speaker 6: and and doing this special, that was huge to me

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Speaker 6: because I'm like right at the cutoff of people who

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Speaker 6: were deeply impacted by Ted Copple's reporting. When I think

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Speaker 6: about Ted Copple, it literally is my very first news

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Speaker 6: memory is Ted Copple and the Berlin Wall and our parents.

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Speaker 6: My parents were pretty into history and what was, you know,

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Speaker 6: current events and the world. And I remember when night

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Speaker 6: getting to stay up late so that we could watch

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Speaker 6: and it was Ted Copple. And I can tell you

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Speaker 3: Dan from Murphy Brown is who I thought Ted Copple

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Speaker 6: But anyway, so Ted Copple, he he got his start.

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Speaker 6: You know where you know, he's got a long history.

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Speaker 6: You can listen to Clay his podcast. But where he

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Speaker 6: kind of got famous in the US is during the Iran.

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Speaker 1: Hostage crisis in the late seventies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he started to every night broadcast about what

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Speaker 1: And that and he was kind of a young man.

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Speaker 2: He probably would have been in his thirties, yeah at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think it was ABC Nightline and then

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Speaker 6: that became something that was just a staple, and I

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Speaker 6: think he and I could look it up if you

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Speaker 6: two thousand and five.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's what we watched, Nightline.

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Speaker 2: Night Line, one of the most watched American television news

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of wild that we have to describe

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Speaker 2: how television used to be.

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Speaker 2: It's not like our seventies. I mean, Lakes Lake, you're

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Speaker 2: thirty three, thirty three, yeah, and we're all in our forties.

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Speaker 2: But television used to be way different, and there used

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Speaker 2: you know, from different networks and different things. Today there's hundreds.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the Internet has just split up people

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Speaker 2: so much. So Ted Kopple was one of the last

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Speaker 2: and his career has continued since then, but he retired

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Speaker 2: and with all respect to mister Copple, who I mean,

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Speaker 2: I have nothing but good things to say about the man.

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Speaker 1: I thought. I was surprised he was alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh and he's eighty five, you know, And

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Speaker 2: uh so when he so this is where you boys

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Speaker 2: When I called you and said Ted Copple is going

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Speaker 2: to be at our bear camp, what did you say

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Speaker 4: I think, honestly, I think the first thing I sent

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Speaker 3: You had questions about Clay's integrity. I mean no, I

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Speaker 4: Like, why is he for what? I didn't know what

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Speaker 2: And this Lake's original question to me, is this the

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, his lookalike. Yeah, well it didn't.

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Speaker 2: It didn't really make sense to me why he wanted

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Speaker 2: and I would say this to the producer, uh, Ted

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Speaker 2: Copple's producer was that he really didn't tell me what

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Speaker 2: I actually the way they sold it to me a

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Speaker 2: little bit was like, they're interested in the podcast, they're

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Speaker 2: interested in your.

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Speaker 4: Story at all. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and I don't then T is not I

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Speaker 3: Would would come out. Yeah, that's very much what they

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Speaker 2: They really missed it. Yeah, come on, Well, so they

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 2: And Justin told him just you know, a few things,

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Speaker 1: Let's boy, oh boy, Well Lake, so.

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Speaker 2: We the first well this has been the third night

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Speaker 4: A bear shot one.

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Speaker 4: I didn't find it, just shot it a little high. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, but enough where I didn't get the bear. You know,

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Speaker 1: It was the night that T was there.

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Speaker 2: Here's what happened though, that you wouldn't have seen on

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Speaker 4: I was hoping about it. It staged like legitimately, I

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Speaker 5: Right, Brent and Clay are Clay and Brent are sitting

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Speaker 1: Look my dad, my mom and dad are there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just your house is there, Lake's there, Me, Brent, Bear, Misty.

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Speaker 4: So I shoot just I shoot the bear, Christy and A.

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Speaker 4: so we get I mean shortly there a fast forward

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00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 4: we realized, Okay, I don't think I hit it as

444
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 4: good as I hit it, but there's still some hope there.

445
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: And there's that time between you don't know if you're

446
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 4: going to recover the animal or not where I don't

447
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: care how many times, how many years you've been bow hunting.

448
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 4: That time between you're just like, you know, yes, I

449
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 4: go riding back up to the camp and I'm like

450
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 4: kind of just thinking, you know, because the other thing

451
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,640
Speaker 4: I'd never bear hunted before, so you know, I really

452
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 4: want to get this bear. And so my head's all

453
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 4: over the place. You were like, okay, well we're gonna

454
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: go look, but we got to shoot this thing with

455
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: Ted first, I'm like, all right, but again I'm looking

456
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: at them micing you and Brent and bear up, and

457
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: they're like, we just need this fire pit to look full.

458
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: And I'm like, all right, I'll just sit over here

459
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 4: and buy my time and think about looking for this

460
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: bear while they're setting up doing their music stuff. Right,

461
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: and this is here, we'll do that. You're me, I'm

462
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: Ted Copple.

463
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: And this is the first.

464
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 4: I'm in between you and Ted Copple. Yeah, but in

465
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 4: this so I'm Ted right now, I'm Ted and.

466
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: You're me, and you're being like all.

467
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 4: The miked up people are over here, yes, all the

468
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 4: cameras are faced here, all the lightings here, and Ted

469
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: goes They're like speed rolling and Ted's like, tell me

470
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: about this bear. She goes so late, Now I shot

471
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 4: a bear.

472
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: But he I think you did it on purpose.

473
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 4: Oh and which all credit to him. Journalism chops, you

474
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 4: have power to them. But I I don't know. I've

475
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: been in doing meat in the hunting space. I've been

476
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: doing media stuff since I was nineteen years old. Never

477
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: in my life I've been more put on my heels than.

478
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: You expected to speak.

479
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 4: No, I don't know, Micael I have nothing. He turns

480
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 4: and asked me that, and then all of a sudden,

481
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: the dude who interviewed Nixon has asked me about that,

482
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I I looked over Crook. I looked

483
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 4: over and Lake's eyes just go. I remember, after all

484
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: that cleared out, when we're going to look for the bear,

485
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: me and it's just me and Clay in the truck,

486
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: and Clay goes, there's that time between you know, when

487
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 4: you shoot, you know, you shoot something and you're going

488
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 4: to look for it where you're just very vulnerable, and

489
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 4: in that time between you got interviewed by Ted Coppy

490
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: and I'm just driving the truck going yeah, yeah, I did.

491
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: But it was so oh my gosh.

492
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: You have.

493
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Anybody listening out there, however stressful that you would perceive

494
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: that moment to be for particularly me and Lake.

495
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 2: Multiply at times eight to ten, because I was just

496
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: absolutely I was stressed out, brother.

497
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 4: I was already thinking about different career paths, accounting.

498
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: And it was such a weird moment because we Ted

499
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: didn't understand why we didn't have the bear in the truck.

500
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: Even if it had been a ten ring shot, we

501
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 2: would not have had the bear in the truck because

502
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: you would have come back to camp. We would have

503
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: given the bear time to expire. And that's the part

504
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: that confused him because he was like, I mean, he

505
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 2: asked some questions that.

506
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, to a hunter would be that was clear.

507
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: It's coming from someone who didn't have experiences. He said, well,

508
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: is the arrow still in the bear?

509
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 4: Yeah? Some of the questions were so like fundamental that

510
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: I was like, is he messing with me? Like, I

511
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 4: mean legitimate? I was like, what it? But in retrospect,

512
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, he's just so out of touch with this

513
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: world he was being they were legitimate questions to him.

514
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he thought the bear was out there, still alive,

515
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: just waiting to die.

516
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

517
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 2: And we and I was kind of trying to insert

518
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: myself a little bit in playing Wingman as much as

519
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: I could, and we were trying to and maybe it

520
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: was a mistake. We were trying not to say, yeah,

521
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 2: we're giving the bear time to die.

522
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

523
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: And an you know, it's like do we give ted

524
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Copple at the start of this like a like a

525
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: thesis on arrow? You know, when an animal shot with

526
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: a bow, you know how quickly it dies and where

527
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: you're aiming and the amount of blood.

528
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: You expect act.

529
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: And it was minutes before we walked into that circle

530
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: that I saw the video and all of a sudden,

531
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean, you knew it, but all of a sudden

532
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: I knew it too. It was like, okay, this may

533
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: it's a little it's in question how this is going

534
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: to turn out?

535
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: Uh, and so we we we we try.

536
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: To mend it up, and to me, it kind of

537
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: set the tone for the whole rest of that deal.

538
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was shook up my head.

539
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 4: I was I didn't know what I mean. When I

540
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 4: watched it back yesterday, I was. And they played a

541
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: little bit of that. I was like, I have no

542
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: recollection of saying any of that. I think I blacked

543
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 4: out for most of it. I'm telling you, dude.

544
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: I was like, well, okay, so now this is some

545
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff. And and again complete respect to

546
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: the cop and.

547
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: His crew and his producer couple, couple. I think we

548
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: have the right.

549
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: To call that man whatever we want, know, beloved man.

550
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: It's like a grandfather to me. Grandpa did the I

551
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: felt like that they kind of bushwhacked bush whacked at

552
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: the time.

553
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 4: Now like at the time, I felt like that, I'm.

554
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: Just didn't They didn't even ask it, Like he didn't

555
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: know that he was on the sheet that was like, Okay,

556
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: Lake's in the ballpark of being spoken to, and and so.

557
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 6: I have a different take on all this, and and not,

558
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: and I had a different take that night too, and

559
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 6: and today I have a different take.

560
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: Still I still don't. I just think it's a it's

561
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: a given.

562
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 6: They had what do you call them, the the mics

563
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 6: that just like hang out boom mics, not puff mikes,

564
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 6: boom mikes. You know those were around. I mean, anyone

565
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 6: was open game. I don't think any of us expected that,

566
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 6: but it wasn't It wasn't deviant. And I think the

567
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 6: questions he was asking felt like a normal like a

568
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 6: curious mind would ask those questions a curious mind. And

569
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 6: I don't think that Ted thought it was a surprise

570
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: that he was coming to talk about hunting when you

571
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 6: said that, like so he was like, Oh, this is actually.

572
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: The exciting part.

573
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 6: This is what I came for was to talk about

574
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 6: to talk about hunting, and this is the only hunting

575
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 6: story we have, so obviously we're going to talk to

576
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 6: Lake about hunting.

577
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 4: So and not to not trying to throw anyone under

578
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: the bus, Clay. But the reason that I thought that

579
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: is because when it was Clay was like they're coming

580
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 4: to talk about the podcast and this, you know, and

581
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: it like it was portrayed that I wasn't going to

582
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: be on any sort of interview report staff. Yeah. Yeah,

583
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: which again is why.

584
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: Just a pretty face? You're just a pretty face.

585
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't what he says is true. I mean,

586
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: that's that's what we's.

587
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: Right, Which because again if I if I, I mean,

588
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: I would like to think it would have gone a

589
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 4: little bit better. But because if I would have gone

590
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: to that fire pit knowing he's about to ask me

591
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: about this.

592
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: Bear, you might have just curled up in a fetal position.

593
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: Well but I mean, I just I hadn't thought of

594
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: anything to say, you know, or I thought through like

595
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: and we're still thinking about going to get that bear. Yeah.

596
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: Well, and and this is where it was naivity on

597
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: my part kind of is leading the thing. Yea, because

598
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: I shouldn't. You shouldn't even been in the circle. Yeah,

599
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, in that vulnerable moment.

600
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: Oh dude, I got I went and sat in that circle.

601
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: With someone asked me to go there, if they just said,

602
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 4: you don't have to go sit in there out of

603
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: go on peace, look for the.

604
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Bear that and for that, you know, I apologize.

605
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: Like at the look when I say, at the time,

606
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 4: I felt like I was bush whacked, Yeah I have,

607
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 4: I have. I have nothing but good things to say

608
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 4: about Ted Copple. Dude was doing his job and he's

609
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 4: good at it. You know. It's just like at that

610
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: time I was like, whoo, he got me.

611
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 6: But from his perspective it and just from a journalistic perspective,

612
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 6: especially an old school journalism, you know, where you're not

613
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: just trying to persuade people, you're trying to actually show

614
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 6: people the facts and help them make a decision about it.

615
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 6: If he would have just let everyone like he if

616
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: he wouldn't have talked about the controversial things, if you

617
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: wouldn't have talked about those things, that would have been

618
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 6: you know, fraudulent to the people who were watching. I

619
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 6: think that's the way old school journalists think. They don't

620
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 6: think we're trying to set up a case and everything's

621
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: biased and we bring our bias into it. Like that's

622
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 6: not the that's not the mindset and so I think

623
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 6: he was just trying to ask ask those questions and

624
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: and whether we were prepared for to be you know,

625
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 6: we're not Nixon. We weren't prepared to be interviewed.

626
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: That exactly prepared either, He wasn't.

627
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 6: He got coppled.

628
00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: That coppled real good. That's the other thing too, behind

629
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 4: the scenes stuff. They don't know that. That's been an

630
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 4: inside joke ever since then. Yeah, yeah, you've been coppled.

631
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like we've probably said it fifty times.

632
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: Yes, and I probably said it a hundred times behind

633
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: your back.

634
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: That's all right.

635
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but listen, the reason I can say that like

636
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: is because I went to bat for you. I mean,

637
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell this, and I mean I don't I

638
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: don't see any reason why I wouldn't you.

639
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Think I shouldn't tell this.

640
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 3: I just stopped.

641
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah really, yeah, which part?

642
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: It's a great story, the everything turned out great.

643
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Well, I think it makes you look good.

644
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know what part you're talking about.

645
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what I talked about it.

646
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: Oh well, then I'm just gonna say it. Well.

647
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: No, the next day I went to Ted and the

648
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: producer and I told them I said, I feel like

649
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: it's unfair what you did to Lake last night. And

650
00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: I said, we're not gonna try to avoid talking about

651
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: but if you want to talk about the bear, talk

652
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: to me about it right now.

653
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: On camera.

654
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, just because you were caught off guard, we

655
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: didn't know the outcome. It was just so ambiguous, whether

656
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: we were going to find the bear or not, whether

657
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: it was dead, whether it wasn't. That next morning we

658
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: had resolution, full resolution. There was hardly any blood on

659
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: the arrow. It was a high shoulder hit era passed through.

660
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: It's like the bear's not hurt. We looked for the

661
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 2: bear extensively, found you know.

662
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 4: A couple little bit like muscle blood, like.

663
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 2: Three drops of blood like half the size of a

664
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: penny in one hundred yards. And we all know, especially

665
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: having the footage. And basically I said, interview me about it.

666
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Don't pin Lake on that with what you just did.

667
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: Now you knew that, didn't you.

668
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: I didn't. I just didn't know what you were about

669
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: to tell.

670
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 2: So and I felt like they handled me really actually,

671
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: And it was interesting seeing Ted Coffles's response. And if

672
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: for some reason this is negative about him, I don't.

673
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it is, I think, he said, Clay.

674
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: He said, in my whole career, if I have filmed

675
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: someone and they have spoken to me, I have never

676
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: told anybody that I wouldn't use the content. You know,

677
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: he said, if you if there's a camera rolling and

678
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm talking to you, it's fair game to use. He said,

679
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: I've done that my whole career, So I'm not going

680
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: to tell you that I'm not going to use it.

681
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: And I respected that, Yeah, because he ended up using it,

682
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: the little piece of it.

683
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

684
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 2: And and it would have been easy for him to say, Okay,

685
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: we won't use it, and then them use it and

686
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: it just be water under the bridge at that point. No,

687
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: he was very honest and direct with me and what

688
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: he told me, and I believe he I believe that

689
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: he held true to his word as he said, Clay,

690
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 2: my intent will never be to belittle or or to

691
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: hurt anyone. And basically he just said, you just got

692
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: to trust me.

693
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and I and and I just felt like

694
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 4: I did all I could do.

695
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he did interview you me about it. And

696
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: they did they use.

697
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: A piece of it. They used some of both. They

698
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 4: use a little bit of mine and I think a

699
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 4: little bit more yours, right, Yeah.

700
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: And so.

701
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: It's just kind of behind the scenes, yeah, of of

702
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: what happened, and and.

703
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 6: But but it wasn't gotcha journalism, Like I think that's

704
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 6: where I'm wanting to push back just a little is

705
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 6: like we were unprepared. But I'm not sure that we

706
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 6: were unprepared because because because they did anything sinister or

707
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 6: we're trying to catch us in something. I actually felt

708
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 6: like they were being pretty generous to us and and

709
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 6: that they gave us a good platform to explain ourselves

710
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 6: and to explain. So that's that's what I just want

711
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 6: to be careful of.

712
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't it. It was.

713
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 6: It was very neutral and if anything, I felt very

714
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 6: very generous reporting what.

715
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: I told Christy as I said, I said, it was.

716
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: It was respectfully balanced, and I thought it was a

717
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 5: good I thought it was.

718
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: A good you know, it didn't it like.

719
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 5: It wasn't an expose a but it was just presenting, Hey,

720
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: this is the lifestyle of these people, this is normal

721
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 5: for them. Yeah, and I felt like it. I felt

722
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 5: like for people who might have a an it wouldn't

723
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 5: be familiar with hunting, it presented it in a way

724
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 5: that made it maybe not palatable but understandable to other people,

725
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: you know.

726
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 6: And I think that he uh, I think I think

727
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 6: when he walked away. You know, we never got him

728
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 6: to eat bear meat.

729
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, we tried.

730
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: He never got it.

731
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 3: Ted the Copple to actually.

732
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: Eat bear meat turned it down.

733
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 6: He wasn't disrespectful, but he just he chose the alternative.

734
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 6: There was an alternative there, and he chose the alternative.

735
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 6: He wasn't like, oh yeah, no, he was like, oh,

736
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 6: that looks good to me. I think I'll try that.

737
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 5: You know, he sat on the back porch while you

738
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 5: guys were out hunting with me and Misty. I can't

739
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: remember who else was there, Mary and Judy and just

740
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: let us ask him questions about his life for an

741
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: hour probably, and he was just so generous with his

742
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: time and attention.

743
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 6: And yeah, yeah, and I think that he uh. In

744
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 6: this part that we're not really talking about, but we

745
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 6: we kind of joked and I took some pictures of

746
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 6: Ted and Bear talking and we we had a joke.

747
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 6: I sent him to Clay, and Clay, I think you

748
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 6: said you were that said it.

749
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: You should find a guy that looks yeah, he.

750
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 6: Said, he said bar should uh, well you were talking

751
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 6: about Yeah, anyway, he said, you should find someone that.

752
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: Looks at you like Bear looks like Ted Copple looks

753
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: at Bear.

754
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 6: I think, and I think overall he appreciated and respected

755
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 6: that that intergenerary, intergenerational dynamics that he saw. I think

756
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 6: he's a real family man and he has respect for that.

757
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 6: And I think Bear kind of won his respect over

758
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 6: the weekend, and so I don't think I think there

759
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 6: was a real sense of that was more what he

760
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 6: wanted to show than than anything.

761
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it did, and it came through it, and

762
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: the piece was very positive, very positive. And in any

763
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: piece about especially bear hunting or hunting in general in

764
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: the mainstream media that's going to be positive is a

765
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 2: huge win, you know.

766
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: Huge.

767
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: I wish if I had several people ask me what

768
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 2: I thought about it, and I wish it could have

769
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: been I mean, if you'd have had a segment twice

770
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: as long you could have had, I would have liked

771
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 2: to have put meat on the bone of exactly how

772
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: hunters are actually champions of wildlife and habitat. I mean,

773
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: because you say that and maybe that connects with a

774
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: non hunter, but I want to you know, I wanted

775
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: to give them a version of the one hundred year

776
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: history of really habitat restoration in this country has come

777
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: through the funding you know of Pittman Robertson and license

778
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: sales and donations by people motivated by hunting, and you know,

779
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: kind of just build out this idea that where an

780
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: animal has cultural value through hunting, it and its habitat

781
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: will be protected if it's in this country. And I

782
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: mean there's just every single species you just start naming them.

783
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I mean, from.

784
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: White tailed deer, the restoration of white tail deer to

785
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: the turkey, to the book that I'm writing about bears.

786
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: You're going to learn stuff about the restoration of black

787
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: bears in the East and relocations. And it wasn't anti

788
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: hunting people. It wasn't bird watchers. It was people motivated

789
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: by hunting ducks, duck habitat. It's not birdwatchers saving you know,

790
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: nesting habitat up north and flood and timber down here.

791
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the story is overwhelming without an

792
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: ounce of spin. And basically if someone can hear you

793
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: say that, they all they almost think you're lying because

794
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: of how wild it is and how counterintuitive. It is,

795
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: and that and that. So the simplicity of their story

796
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: was these guys want to kill bears, but they also

797
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: love them. And that's about as deep as it went.

798
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: So but I get it. It was a fast paced segment.

799
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: People's appetites for things are so low that people wouldn't

800
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: know that they were interested in bears, But but Ted

801
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: made it interesting.

802
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: I love that he pulled in whol Collier. Yeah, yeah,

803
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 4: I thought, I mean I thought it was like I

804
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: text you when it came out, I said, it's good.

805
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: I thought I thought it was good.

806
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and we all know that you're a great shot.

807
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's should have he should have put in a

808
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 4: segment of lake out practice target shooting before he left

809
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 4: to go hunting man, just to prove that he could

810
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: put it in the ten ring. It's like I said,

811
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 4: I just not the missing part of it was. I mean, like,

812
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, I hate what I missed.

813
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 6: I do mean all the times you're going to miss it,

814
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 6: that's the time that it happened.

815
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the way the whole interviews had it

816
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: went down. And like I said, just briefly going back

817
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 4: to like you said, I don't think it was gotcha

818
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: journalist either, because calling a spade a spade, he wouldn't

819
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: have anything to gotch You me on if I'd have

820
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: made a good shot. Got to take ownership of that stuff.

821
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: You know. It's like, if I'd have made a good shot,

822
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 4: it had been a different conversation. It is what it is.

823
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: Well, I want to share with you guys something that

824
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: has happened since none of you know this.

825
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 4: There's a.

826
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say their name, don't want to

827
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: give him any publicity, but uh, there is a wildlife

828
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: group in the country that has is demanding a correction

829
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: from CBS for misleading for a misleading bear segment. So

830
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: there's a there's an anti hunting wildlife group that has

831
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 2: basically put their foot on the ground and said they're

832
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: demanding that CBS apologize for the misleading segment. And it

833
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: says the great Well Da Da Da Da Da has

834
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: a formal letter to CBS submitted a formal letter to

835
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: CBS Sunday morning, requesting a correction, a counter segment, and

836
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: an investigation following their February first, twenty twenty six broadcast

837
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: on The Hunter for Bear and the Ozarks The segments,

838
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: which prominently featured Clay Nukeombe and the Bear Grease Podcast,

839
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 2: presented a romanticized and scientifically unsupported portrayal of bear hunting

840
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: in America. The piece omitted critical context, amplified demonstrably false claims,

841
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: and failed to examine the broader system of wildlife governments

842
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: that shapes how bears are made as across the states.

843
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: He goes on and on, it's.

844
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: A good podcast shout out though, Yeah, yeah, I.

845
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: Thought about that. I'm gonna ask them to put a

846
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: link in there. No, it's it's pretty interesting that they

847
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: did that. And I mean, you know, there's just some

848
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: places where you know, I would I would stand behind

849
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 2: and defend every word of what was said. I mean,

850
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: and it's just like, so I just think it's interesting

851
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: that these guys saw that, and we're just like, this

852
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: is this is false what has been portrayed here?

853
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: Uh.

854
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: There was one part in their segment where they said,

855
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, Nukem failed to or maybe they blamed Copple,

856
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: but that just we failed to talk about the serious

857
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 2: health risk involved in eating bear meat.

858
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: Oh and I mean we're gonna have to talk about

859
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: pork too.

860
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean, and they talked about how they specifically.

861
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: Cited anyone eating lettuce.

862
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 6: They specifically cited, and that you can't get rid of

863
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 6: it by freezing, as if that would be the the

864
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 6: way that we see.

865
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: If you know the truth about trick andosis, and then

866
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: you read that statement, basically it paints a picture of

867
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: every single thing they're saying, because we're on this side,

868
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: and the truth about trick andosis is that, yeah, many

869
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: wild bears do have trick andosis, but it is killed

870
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: at a instantaneously at one hundred and forty one degrees.

871
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: It's an incremental there's incremental Misty's factors.

872
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 6: I just don't want you to be responsible. I've been

873
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 6: saying that, and I've always said one.

874
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: Hundred and forty five degrees that's what I look at well.

875
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: But basically it's a gradient scale. You can kill trick

876
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: andosis at one hundred and twenty degrees, but there's a

877
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 2: but it has to be for a certain period of time.

878
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: So it's if you want to sue v your bear meat,

879
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: you can sue.

880
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: V bear meat seventy five.

881
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: That's full that.

882
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: What Google says is not I mean this, this is

883
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: coming from the u U s d ae.

884
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 3: Si is more than the past, more than ample temperature

885
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 3: to kill all forms.

886
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, just putting that.

887
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 6: Out there for the uh, you know, for the people

888
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: who sue for such things.

889
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: Well point being, I mean, there are so many of

890
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: us have lived off bear meat for big sections of

891
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: our life, and it is not a significant health risk.

892
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: I actually wonder which is greater health risk. My mom's

893
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: fear are actually your mom's fear of us getting salmonella

894
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: from eating cookie dough that right, which I've also never

895
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 3: known anyone to get.

896
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that my whole life.

897
00:47:55,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 3: I've heard it my whole life, and I've never but experientially.

898
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 4: I've never known anyone to actually have it.

899
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know anyone that's had salmonella period.

900
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 6: I think that I have heard of it from lettuce. Okay,

901
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 6: I actually think I I think I do know.

902
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 4: From vegetables than from meat.

903
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not trick I don't want to

904
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: minimize Trickens's like it's it's it's a serious thing, but

905
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: it's just interesting that.

906
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: And I again, I don't even want to minimize it.

907
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: But like you get die really bad diarrhea for a while,

908
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: It's not like this thing that's gonna I mean, I

909
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: suspect you could die from it. I mean, just like

910
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: you could die from I think it's like the flu

911
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: something terrible. You know, some minor thing that just goes

912
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: unchecked for decades.

913
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: You don't know, uh, one like outstanding questquestion I had

914
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 4: about the piece, Like genuine question. They showed the shot

915
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:08,439
Speaker 4: on there. They showed the like me the bear. Now

916
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: take that and replace it with any other video clip

917
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: of a bear getting shot with bow from the like

918
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 4: the hunter side, like I text you, and I was like,

919
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 4: from the way I look at life, I thought it

920
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 4: was a good thing that they showed it because I

921
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: see that It's like, Okay, you can show that we're

922
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: not taking irresponsible shots, right, you can see that, you know,

923
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 4: from that angle. But then the other I was like, man,

924
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: because the anti hunter thing that just came out. I

925
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: was like, man, I don't know if it's the best

926
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 4: thing to show. That's just the question I didn't know

927
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: how I felt about. I was like, I don't know

928
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: if that was the best thing to put that in there.

929
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 4: But that's the one question mark I had, whether it

930
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: was me shooting bear or not, any any shot of

931
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: that I didn't know how.

932
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 6: I thought it was kind of cool that they did

933
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: it on primetime TV.

934
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah at first I did, but I was like, I

935
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 4: don't know, is that like fuel that kind of stuff

936
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: or what that kind of stuff happened regardless if it.

937
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Had been our choice, that wouldn't have been on.

938
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: There, yeah, because I would have been like, man, I

939
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: just don't know if that's the best to put that

940
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 4: on there, regardless of I mean, like, I think it's positive, right,

941
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: but I don't know. That was like the one thing,

942
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: you know what the way.

943
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: Ted said it, I thought it was interesting. He said

944
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: it was good for the bear. He said, bad for

945
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: the hunters, good for the bear, a hunter that is

946
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: actually thinking about animal welfare, like I would view a

947
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: wounded animal as Oh man, yeah, I feel I feel responsible.

948
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: You know that this bear, you know, and I would

949
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: bet my truck that that bear was totally alive.

950
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it does.

951
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 4: You got it by a truck.

952
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 2: If he's dead, it's not because of that arrow and

953
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean the razor sharp. I mean, I don't want

954
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 2: to minimize the anyway. Did you see my point? Ted

955
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 2: was like, good for the bear, and we were like,

956
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 2: wait a minute bad for the bear right.

957
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: That was interesting.

958
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 4: I think that goes back to if I had to guess,

959
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 4: because I remember him saying that, I think that goes

960
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 4: back to that same deal when he was asking those

961
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 4: very fundamental questions. I just think Ted just he's not

962
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: in that world, you know. I think it's just a misunderstanding. Yeah.

963
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: Well, and I was honored that he wanted to come

964
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: do a story on bear hunting, That's what I'm saying.

965
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 5: I thought he prompted that, like where he I mean,

966
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: was that something that was presented to They.

967
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Have hundreds of stories pitched to them every year, and

968
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 2: the journalists pick out the stories that they want to

969
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: do and don't. I don't know what stood out to

970
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: him about this one, but he was interested in it.

971
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: And and I think Ted is interested in kind of

972
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 2: Middle America that doesn't get a lot of press, and

973
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: just things that are really normal to set of people

974
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: that might be really unusual to most of America.

975
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, y'all, we are interesting.

976
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: Us news to us.

977
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: But now I hope if if somebody's listening to this,

978
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,359
Speaker 2: like I would have said everything I've said to Ted

979
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: Copple's face, I don't want to paint them in a

980
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 2: negative light. He was just I put ted meeting Ted

981
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: Copple up there with like getting to spend some time

982
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: with Mourner Glenn.

983
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: That's what he felt like.

984
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: He just felt like a guy that was just kind

985
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: of in a different stratosphere of life, experience what he's seen,

986
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 2: what he's done. And I learned so much from being

987
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: around people like that, Like the way that he treated people.

988
00:52:54,239 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: I challenged challenges me, the way that he treated people

989
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: and everything he said he was gonna do he did.

990
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: I have no complaints.

991
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I like him because he just has

992
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 5: a lot of gravitas but is so approachable.

993
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like he lets you in, you know.

994
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 5: And maybe I mean that's that's part of what's made

995
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 5: him good at his job, and that's part of his job.

996
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 4: But he does a good job. Even if he's faking it,

997
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: he does a good job doing it. Yeah.

998
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think I think. I think it was

999
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: a great experience.

1000
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 6: I have nothing but respect for him, and I was

1001
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 6: I was really grateful for for the way. I think

1002
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 6: it's it is a really vulnerable thing just to even

1003
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 6: let your family talk to people, like say the shot

1004
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 6: wouldn't have gone off, you know that there was, there

1005
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 6: would have been no shot to discuss at the even

1006
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 6: without that to put the any type of exposure you're

1007
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 6: vulnerable to to how that person paints, what picture that

1008
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 6: person paints. And I felt like when I watched it yesterday,

1009
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 6: it was like, Okay, he was trustworthy with with these

1010
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 6: people that we love.

1011
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: So much, with with Lake, with with that.

1012
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 6: Difficult circumstance with Bear, with Clay, and and so I

1013
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 6: felt like he did a good job.

1014
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 3: And I also appreciate the Bear Grease crowd.

1015
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 6: Just in the in the roll out of it, I

1016
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 6: just thought the Bear Grease crowd was and I know

1017
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 6: not Yeah, they were vocal and they were supportive, and

1018
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 6: I think that makes a big difference inside.

1019
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: Of when when on the internet, Yeah, when one.

1020
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 6: Of us gets a gets a you know, gets portrayed,

1021
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 6: it's really good to show that there's there's good people

1022
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: that back them up as well. And I felt like

1023
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 6: by and large, what I saw the what people were

1024
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,320
Speaker 6: putting out there, people even in the comments, it was

1025
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 6: just very respectful and very.

1026
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: And that's what we want to be. We want to be.

1027
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: We don't want to be the the trolls. We want

1028
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 6: to be the people that are are respectful, and it

1029
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 6: just felt like the bear Grease.

1030
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 3: It was good. You know, you feel like people are

1031
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 3: out there with you.

1032
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: We're all out there together, and that's kind of what

1033
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 6: it felt like yesterday because you never know are people

1034
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 6: going to say crazy stuff?

1035
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: Is that going to be the overwhelming thing in the comments?

1036
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 6: And it kind of felt like we weren't out there

1037
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 6: on that limb alone yesterday, that other people were out

1038
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 6: there with us, so big thanks to the bear Gery's Crown.

1039
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 5: I got several messages from people I haven't heard from

1040
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 5: in years that were just like, I just saw you

1041
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 5: on CV.

1042
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1043
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh Filmmaker got a call out.

1044
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: You got a big yet to played a big role

1045
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: in it, man.

1046
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean right out there hunting Winny of the Pooh.

1047
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean what you said. I mean they interviewed

1048
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: us for hours.

1049
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what I told people when they said, well,

1050
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: do you think it was good?

1051
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 4: Clay?

1052
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah I did.

1053
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: I said I did at least an hour and a

1054
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: half of like face to face interview with Ted Copple,

1055
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 2: and they probably played my voice for four minutes.

1056
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe three yeah, maybe two.

1057
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: So it's like, could I possibly, I mean, we talked

1058
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: about Pittman Robertson, we talked about I want to address

1059
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 2: something that we talked about that okay. If there's one

1060
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: thing that I could go back and redo was the

1061
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 2: stuff about agriculture. I had some ranchers be like, well,

1062
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: you threw us under the bus, because I basically at

1063
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: the end, I say, hey, if you got a problem

1064
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: with me going out into the to the wild killing

1065
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 2: a bear and bringing home and eating it, but yet

1066
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: you're okay with confinement agriculture, that's the word that I used.

1067
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's a double standard.

1068
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, and what they didn't play and it's not

1069
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: their fault.

1070
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: Is I qualified that statement, like I talked about and

1071
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't remember, I don't. I'm a little bit afraid

1072
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: to say what I said because I actually don't entirely remember.

1073
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 2: But I remember saying, man, I grew up in a

1074
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 2: in a region that was full of chicken farms. I've

1075
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: got dear friends that are chicken farmers. I don't think

1076
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: they're bad people, no, and I don't. I'm not necessarily

1077
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: against a confinement chicken farm. I'm just saying if you're

1078
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 2: mad at me for killing them exactly, and then you're

1079
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: eating chicken nuggle.

1080
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 4: I feel like you. I feel like you articulated that.

1081
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 5: At the end, they're saying, if you eat meat, but

1082
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: you have a problem with if you eat meat from

1083
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: confinement agriculture, but have a problem with this, you're going

1084
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 5: to lose that argument. That's not saying don't eat meat

1085
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 5: from well.

1086
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was interpreted.

1087
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: It was interpreted well everybody just like me. If I

1088
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: hear somebody talking about hunting, I'm on pins and needles,

1089
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: like trying to interpret what they mean and what they said,

1090
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 2: and I take offence if they handle it wrong.

1091
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't.

1092
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pro American agriculture, and I mean, we

1093
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: got to have chicken houses exactly.

1094
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 4: The fact of the matter is there's not enough wild games.

1095
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 2: Our dear friend Terrell Spencer, across the Creek Farms right

1096
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: down the road here has a has a incredible pastured

1097
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 2: poultry operation. And Spence would sit here today and tell

1098
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Speaker 2: you that his chicken is notably more expensive than what

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00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 2: you can buy down here at the store. And it's

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Speaker 2: because and so my point is, and his chicken is

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Speaker 2: also better like no one argues that. Nobody wants to

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00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: argue that.

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00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: But it's like, we got a lot of people to

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Speaker 1: feed on this planet.

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 4: Yep.

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00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 2: Not everybody can eat pasture poultry unfortunately. I mean it's

1107
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: the best case scenario, right, the way they do it.

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00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: Everybody can eat wild game exactly. So I apologize that

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 2: that's the way that that could have been portrayed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we didn't want to pit one against the other.

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00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 6: We just wanted to say, let's not have a double standard,

1112
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 6: like you can't say one's okay and one's not.

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Speaker 3: These are essentially that's right.

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00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 4: I interpreted it that way, but I could see, you

1115
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: know why someone in the line of work of agriculture

1116
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 4: could you know, maybe take misinterpreted what you said.

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00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, well so again I've you can't you

1118
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: can't win everything, and nor can you do it right

1119
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: every time. I mean, I'm not a train I'm not

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Speaker 2: trained to, you know, stand in front of the world's.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 4: I think we're greatest. That that night, I think we

1122
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 4: both proved that it's true.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Oh man, well it was a.

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00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Really it's a wonderful opportunity. Hey, but it's a little

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: bit stressful.

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00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: What about it.

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00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: That's the part that people don't see.

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Speaker 6: It's like it was, and we are grateful, But this

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00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 6: whole time we've not known what on earth is this

1130
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 6: thing going to look.

1131
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 4: But when I started getting text yesterday morning that granted

1132
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 4: everyone were people over fifty, but they were. But I

1133
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 4: started getting text and I was like, oh, it's out.

1134
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 4: So I found and I like, I just got myself

1135
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 4: where it wouldn't be any distractions. I watched it. When

1136
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: it was over, I went.

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00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes you feel good.

1138
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think it's cute that like refer to

1139
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 6: people over fifty, like like they're the old folks.

1140
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: Josh, how old will you mean?

1141
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 4: May I'll be fifty? Hey, yeah, some people like Josh

1142
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 4: Sunday Morning demographic. Mom. That's right.

1143
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 5: Me and Dab were sitting there watching CBS Sunday Morning.

1144
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 5: Oh over our Meta musial Gary and Juju man there.

1145
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 5: Their their phones were lighting up. Oh I bet they,

1146
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 5: I mean like everybody they know.

1147
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: So my mom called me. She's like, Lake, were you

1148
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 4: just on CBS? All of her friends were calling her.

1149
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: And and you didn't tell her.

1150
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 4: I didn't know. I didn't know until it was out.

1151
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 4: Also that mom, check this out. You're gonna want to

1152
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 4: really see me, not get there. You're gonna love that,

1153
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 4: and I don't mom there, don't get too excited. Oh gosh,

1154
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 4: that's hilarious.

1155
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: Hey, okay, So I was pretty amaze is that the

1156
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: number of people that told me that they watched CBS

1157
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: Sunday Morning.

1158
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 5: I mean the people that were messaging me were people

1159
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 5: who were older and you know, late thirties, early forties,

1160
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: and so I was surprised.

1161
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Those aren't older people.

1162
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 5: Josh, Well, one of the guys was in his sixties.

1163
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 3: Twenty five to fifty four demographic.

1164
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 4: Twenty five to fifty four.

1165
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: Consisting a consistently in the twenty five I've kind.

1166
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: Of purposely stayed away from well not kind of like

1167
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 2: absolutely stayed away from politics and whatnot. But I got

1168
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 2: to give a little shout out just talking about where

1169
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: you get your news. I listened to this Breaking Points

1170
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 2: with what's what's my buddy's name.

1171
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 3: Sagar, that's what you always say.

1172
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's a there's a podcast called Breaking Points,

1173
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: and you know, probably like a lot of people, but

1174
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: I believe it to be true. They talk about how

1175
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 2: it's they've got people from all sides of the political spectrum,

1176
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: and every day they give commentary on what's going on.

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I find it pretty interesting.

1178
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 6: They're not shouting at each other, you know, like sometimes

1179
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 6: you have all sides of the political spectrum, and I

1180
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 6: have no tolerance for shouting at each other. I don't

1181
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 6: want to hear that. I don't want to hear that,

1182
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 6: so I don't I don't listen to them every day,

1183
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 6: but I.

1184
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: Don't listen to them every day.

1185
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: But it's it's pretty informative. Well man, this this Uh.

1186
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: We didn't get a chance to talk about the second

1187
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: Mule episode unfortunately, which is seems so relevant.

1188
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 4: I would have liked to have gotten Ted on a mule.

1189
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 4: That would have been awesome.

1190
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ted and Warner Glenn.

1191
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: That would be.

1192
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 3: Fame on that one.

1193
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 2: If I would have introduced Ted Copple to Warner Glenn,

1194
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 2: he would have never.

1195
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: Come to Arkansas, would Warner Glenn?

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01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean, holy cow? Yeah, you could do it. You

1197
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: could do it quite the piece on immigration, I mean anything.

1198
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: If you remember on the episodes I did with Warner

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Speaker 1: Glen years ago, he you know, the southern border of

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: the Malpi Ranch is the Mexican US border, and.

1201
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 4: Uh, for.

1202
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Fifty plus years of Warner's life. That fence was an

1203
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 2: eight strand barbed wire fence. Today it's a new section

1204
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 2: of Trump's wall. Wow, it's a it's a huge.

1205
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: It's a huge.

1206
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean I've been there and put my hands on

1207
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 2: the bars. It's a it's a twenty foot wall, new concrete.

1208
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 2: But oddly, every time there's a road that goes down

1209
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 2: the wall, every time you go down in a little

1210
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: drainage where a creek has the roll through.

1211
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's enough room to get under there.

1212
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: There's there's holes big enough to drive a truck through.

1213
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 2: For real, one hundred per saw it with my own ice.

1214
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe not. Let me back up, if I'm

1215
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: just being literal, big.

1216
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: Enough to a hybrid Kia, a hybrid Keia, your canm

1217
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: you could drive your canam on the room.

1218
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah really yeah?

1219
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: Are there tracks?

1220
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't look for tracks.

1221
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: But the day, the day, the first time I pulled

1222
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: into the driveway of Warner Glenn, I'm driving out and

1223
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 2: I have to pull off of the road so that

1224
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: two white vans can pass me. They've been at his house, clearly,

1225
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: because it's two mile long driveway. And when I get there,

1226
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: I say, hey, who is that that we just passed?

1227
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: And they go, oh, that was immigration. They just picked

1228
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 2: up seventeen people and they were hiding out behind the barn.

1229
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:54,479
Speaker 2: Oh my wow, I showed up and that so Ted.

1230
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: If you'd like to talk to Warner Glenn, you have

1231
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: to come through.

1232
01:04:58,160 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: Me five five one.

1233
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 6: If there's any other controversial topics you'd like to discustinate,

1234
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 6: like any other.

1235
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: Areas, it's interesting that I'm not.

1236
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm not, I am, I am. It's just interesting, that's

1237
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: all it is. It's not I mean, it might be controversial,

1238
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: but it's just interesting, is it not.

1239
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 5: I mean, it's pretty fascinating, the the whole landscape there.

1240
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, oh you want to talk. I've got nothing

1241
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: to fear.

1242
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 2: I wish the world could just open up my chest

1243
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: and just peer in and see everything I think about issues.

1244
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: I know, Misty we were talking this week. I mean,

1245
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: if you're if you're a oh, let's do it, let's

1246
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 2: do it. I mean, if you I mean talking about immigration,

1247
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 2: if you're talking about immigration, I mean, I think many

1248
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 2: people in this country would would would say that they

1249
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: believe the Bible, and that they would lean onto the Bible.

1250
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: Look for it for instruction for life.

1251
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 2: Littered throughout the Bible as much as anything is is

1252
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: talk of how God thinks about immigrants.

1253
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 3: And how important it is how we treat them.

1254
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just I'm not even the delivery boy.

1255
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: I just read it myself. I mean, so it just

1256
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 2: kind of makes you think I'd be careful the way

1257
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: I thought about.

1258
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: It, you know what I mean.

1259
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: I mean there's a there's a narrative that's very easy

1260
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: to grab onto, and there's there's a balance inside of it.

1261
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 4: I mean, keep the wild places wild, because that's where

1262
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 4: the bears life.

1263
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: This has been a great episode. This has been a

1264
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: great episode.

1265
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: Baby woke up and had his coffee.

1266
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm just I think I think I just,

1267
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 2: uh no, I did. This is your great things to discuss.

1268
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,439
Speaker 2: I like, I like thinking about these just any any

1269
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: of these kind of topics. And it's okay for people

1270
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: to hear that from me there certainly turn it on

1271
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: any possible channel and hearing very extreme narratives on every

1272
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 2: possible side of all these things.

1273
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, so.

1274
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: Like closing comments, I'll give you the closing word, like

1275
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: you're going to give me the closing word, Like was.

1276
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: Not afforded you in the CBS pace.

1277
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: No, I I think it was overall positive experience. If

1278
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 4: I was given the same opportunity tomorrow, I would take

1279
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 4: another swing show back up. Yeah, I mean, like I said,

1280
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I have nothing. Like I said, at the time,

1281
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 4: it was a little rocky there, but in retrospect it's

1282
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I would do it again. I would just

1283
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 4: try to make a better shot.

1284
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 2: But you know you're gonna have to go back through

1285
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: this all again when the Meat Eater film comes out.

1286
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, well that's.

1287
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: The Meat Eater film.

1288
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 4: That.

1289
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: Like what the world doesn't realize is that that clip

1290
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 2: has not been broadcast to the world yet.

1291
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on media YouTube challenge sometimes.

1292
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 4: So here's here's that. Like the whole part where it

1293
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 4: was rocky had nothing to do with that part of it, yeah,

1294
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 4: because it was just the interview with Ted was where

1295
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: I was like whoa, because thankfully because of my primo's years. Like, man,

1296
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: I remember the first time that I missed a shot

1297
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 4: at a bull elk and then I had to go archery,

1298
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 4: I had to go back hunting the next day. Is

1299
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 4: the first time I messed up anything on video and

1300
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 4: I was like I remember waking up next morning, I

1301
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 4: was like, can I actually do this? You know? And

1302
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 4: then I didn't get a shot until I think it

1303
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 4: was two days after and I killed a bull and

1304
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 4: that was like good. Mentally it was good. I was like,

1305
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 4: all right, I can't overcome that. But then it was

1306
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 4: like after that, I think I hadn't missed a turkey

1307
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 4: in a long time, and I missed like two on

1308
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: back to back days, all on video. And so I

1309
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 4: say all that to say, like I have been raked

1310
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 4: across the coals in the YouTube comp mint section many

1311
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: times that whatever, yeah, I don't that doesn't It is

1312
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: what it is, you know. But like it was the

1313
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,839
Speaker 4: whole like interview part that I was like, but yeah, yeah,

1314
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 4: this is what it is. I get it. I get it.

1315
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: Well, uh Lake, because of being being the guest on

1316
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 2: in the COVID hot seat today, Lake's got some new COVID.

1317
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 6: Boots looking sharp, it really does. And he's also got

1318
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 6: a new picture, a picture, a new piece of art.

1319
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh I thought that was.

1320
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: The time.

1321
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I can't believe we forgot about it. It looks

1322
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: like you roll the roll the tape, Josh.

1323
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: We got a film that.

1324
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 4: It looks like you'll plan that. I didn't notice it

1325
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: was there.

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01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: Do it? Do it vertical so that I can use it?

1327
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 4: Okay, there we go.

1328
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: Yes, I cannot believe I didn't think about this.

1329
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 4: I didn't think about it either.

1330
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 1: This is this.

1331
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Is your This is this is your, your little little

1332
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: little fla. It's beautiful, it's so yeah, I'm sorry. You

1333
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: may have seen me a few weeks ago at an

1334
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:13,839
Speaker 2: antique store by a print for lake of some fruit.

1335
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: It's a three piece framed print, not in great shape,

1336
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 2: pretty very old, I'm they got the antique store said

1337
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 2: for sure, late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, so well

1338
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: over one hundred years old.

1339
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 3: And it's pretty cool.

1340
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,640
Speaker 1: What kind of animals do we have?

1341
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 4: We've got we've got a rough grouse, We've got an

1342
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 4: American woodcock. We have a drake mallard. The fruit is

1343
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 4: to me. Yeah. Then we've got some bob white quail

1344
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 4: and some rabbits. You've got just a small game schmorgasbord

1345
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 4: going on over here. But the yeah, the drake mallard

1346
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 4: and the grouse and the woodcock and the quails, which

1347
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 4: spoke to me. I had to have it.

1348
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 6: We we started taking footage of Clay because he was

1349
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 6: River was filming him. Bear and I were laughing so

1350
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 6: hard because it's a it's a super cool antique shop

1351
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 6: in downtown Perry Grove. We love going there, but it's

1352
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 6: like as you walk on the wood, you can hear

1353
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 6: it creek. So everyone kind of walks a little bit

1354
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 6: like tiptoes.

1355
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 3: Around in there.

1356
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 6: And Clay's children love and respect him, they really do,

1357
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 6: and they also kind of joke about just the level

1358
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 6: of intensity with that he brings to everything he does.

1359
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 6: And he's in that antique store just like going both

1360
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 6: barrels on this. We can hear him over here. We

1361
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 6: can hear him walking back up the stairs. We can

1362
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 6: see that here when he gets excited that he found

1363
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 6: a picture, and he's just sweet. Bear and I were

1364
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,839
Speaker 6: having a good time down on the lower story.

1365
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 4: See for me, it's like it's like a good it's

1366
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 4: a good confirmation that I'm putting my best foot forward.

1367
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:56,880
Speaker 4: If Clay saw an old picture with you know, Mallard's

1368
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 4: grouse and quail in it and said late needs this.

1369
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's a pretty cool picture.

1370
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 4: Oh it's fantastic and really cool frame too.

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 3: Just that you can see on the back of it

1372
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 3: how old is.

1373
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 2: It's in a little bit worse shape than I thought.

1374
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm trying to take the price tag off. It's a

1375
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 2: little bit worse shape than I originally realized. But it's

1376
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: just it's kind of faded, kind of got an old

1377
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: antique look of the shape.

1378
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 4: Of it adds to it.

1379
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too.

1380
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: So what are you going to do with this?

1381
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: I might So I've got my room in there, I've

1382
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 4: got some taxidermy and stuff. And then I'm actually got

1383
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 4: that painting of Buffalo that Kyle Carroll gave to me.

1384
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm gonna put it right up there next

1385
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 4: to it, above it, but below it somewhere and pair

1386
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: it up with that nice I think it's cool.

1387
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: But it's good. Yeah, it's good. I'm glad we did that.

1388
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: You got a lot of things. You got to pay

1389
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 2: it to Covis and that painting.

1390
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, have to come up here more often.

1391
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you might even get coupled sometimes if you

1392
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 6: hang around with Clay Long.

1393
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 4: You never know. Just that's what's your biggest take If

1394
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 4: someone like, what's your biggest take away from you know?

1395
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 4: Getting interviewed by Ted coffles. Stay on your toes exactly.

1396
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 4: Always be on your game.

1397
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: Stay on your toes, and the camera's rolling.

1398
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 2: Thanks everybody, Thank you so much. Keep the wild places wild,

1399
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: because that's where the bears live.