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Speaker 3: Y'all, welcome hallelujah to another episode Decisions.

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Speaker 5: By the way, they say, I sound like a black

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Speaker 3: About it to Decisions. Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy b.

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Speaker 5: I'm her co host Wheezy, And before we start this

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Speaker 5: Danielle is known for her unwavering commitment to God's truth,

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Speaker 3: Like okay? Because it seems now even being a pastor

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Speaker 3: Who did you hide your pregnancy from? Who are you

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, And I want to touch on that because

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Speaker 2: And now she's my bestie, Now that's my I mean.

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Speaker 5: I hid my period for a year from my mom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So it's weird because I also don't know how, especially

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult. Yes, it is, it is.

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Speaker 5: And so just at thirteen, there still wasn't that you

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell her, Hey, I'm pregnant, Like I just

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Speaker 2: The words could never come.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I could have a mom that

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Speaker 3: the pimp? Yeah, OK. Are there any things that when

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Speaker 5: Saying you did me talking about this twenty seven year old

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Speaker 2: Was underage, of course, a thirteen year old.

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Speaker 3: I just want to know what he said to you,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he knew I was thirteen. He knew

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Speaker 1: I was underage, like sixteen. I think I'm gonna said

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Speaker 1: when the conversation about my age came up, because he's like, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm like yeah. So he was like, I said, so

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Speaker 2: you have to take me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play the brother, the uncle, you

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Speaker 1: still early in the pregnancy. But when he didn't show up.

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Speaker 1: I just thirteen. I thought out of sight.

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Speaker 2: Out of mind. If I don't acknowledge it, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're so dumb? Are we dumb? Literally?

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Speaker 5: Like, we're so dumb? So then, at what point was

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Speaker 2: When they called her and when I was in labor?

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Speaker 5: Your mom found out when you were in labor?

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Speaker 1: Mother and my grandparents because I tried to leave the

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Speaker 2: Mind you, my water broke at school.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, all right, I've been here a couple hours,

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Speaker 3: With that man in your head when the water broke,

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Speaker 3: did you knew you were going to the labor? I

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Speaker 1: I don't think I knew the severity because I was

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Speaker 3: In your head, what were you thinking, like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna leave it at the hospital, go home,

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Speaker 1: and then come back the next day and figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that sounds like, yeah, I'm gonna go home. Not

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Speaker 3: I took it out at thirteen, I'm ever thinking it's okay,

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Speaker 3: it's on the right side. My mom enters from the

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Speaker 5: You it's the process get to cortex is not even there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So she found that out.

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Speaker 5: You have the baby, Do you remain in this relationship

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Speaker 5: ha is your mom now aware clearly of the baby,

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Speaker 5: but the relationship and who.

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Speaker 3: You have it with.

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Speaker 1: I think I concealed his age, Okay I did. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I told how old he was, nor that

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Speaker 1: he was a pimp.

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Speaker 3: Were y'all sleeping together while you're pre I.

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Speaker 2: Had sex with this man?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 1: All of this because when I got pregnant, he was like,

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Speaker 1: let's get the abortion. Then when he didn't show up,

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Speaker 1: he said, well, just have the baby. I'll take care

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get on the blade.

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Speaker 3: What is on the trail?

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Speaker 1: Yes, you go, I'm gonna take care of you while

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Speaker 1: have to get the.

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Speaker 3: Work because you you a bottom bitch.

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Speaker 1: Now at this point, yeah, yeah, I said no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I said no, And it was funny that I said.

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Speaker 1: I had enough sense to say no to him, but

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Speaker 4: So you.

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Speaker 3: Or or we also tie, we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 5: A lot of times tie harm to women as a woman,

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Speaker 5: especially young, especially if they become friends, Like you don't

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Speaker 5: so the baby doesn't make it.

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Speaker 3: You're thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Let's fast forward a little bit too, this introduction and

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Speaker 5: who it was, where it was, because it was in

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Speaker 5: the church, absolutely, So yeah, let's get to you are a.

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Speaker 3: Stripper when you started strip?

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Speaker 1: So I ran away after the baby. I just ran away.

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Speaker 1: Rebellion kicked in. My mom is like, how did you

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Speaker 1: have all these questions? I don't want to talk.

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Speaker 2: I'm mad. I run away, get a fake ID, run

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Speaker 2: away with another pimp.

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Speaker 3: Did you know he was?

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Speaker 2: I didn't at first.

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Speaker 1: But the difference between him and the baby dad was

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Speaker 2: He offered.

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Speaker 3: I was like, no.

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Speaker 1: The problem with him was this is where the strip

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Speaker 1: doctor Jeko, mister high. He was really nice when he

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Speaker 1: he would beat the crap out of me.

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Speaker 2: And he was a dope dealer.

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Speaker 1: So one of his customers was a stripper, so when

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, she innocent, innocent, and how old are

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Speaker 2: I'm almost forty now.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost okay. But in the time of the story,

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Speaker 3: Whoa okay?

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Speaker 1: So it started dancing, but what a fake id with

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Speaker 1: I can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Does that strip club still exist today?

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Speaker 1: That was the after hours in La Okay, So I

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Speaker 5: And now fourteen, what were some of the things that,

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Speaker 1: Sex in the champagne room, girls getting beat up by

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Speaker 1: their pimps because the money wasn't enough, people doing drugs

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Speaker 1: but they wanted they was like, nah, at that time.

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Speaker 3: How much do you remember sex being in the club,

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Speaker 1: I don't know when they offered me. I was so,

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Speaker 1: I was so, I felt so disrespected. I was so like,

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Speaker 1: how dare you ask me to do that? Cause I'm fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So when I hear strip club, I hear dancing dancing,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking dancing, naked, dancing in sexy clothes, not prostitution,

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Speaker 1: because there is a difference. There's some clubs that they

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Speaker 1: allow you to dance. If you do anything else, they

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Speaker 1: not over here. It's like, yeah, you dance, that's the appetizer.

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Speaker 1: But you know, after that we go back there we

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Speaker 1: fucking yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And at fourteen, I wasn't ready for that.

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Speaker 3: You know, I actually don't know if in my lifetime

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Speaker 3: More like there's a place somewhere I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it still exists in New Orleans called the passion Pit.

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Speaker 3: And I was only eighteen or nineteen went to the

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Speaker 3: the girl literally said to me, Okay, do you want

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking, like these people brought me to dance because

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Speaker 3: And it's not really to me something that I don't

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Speaker 3: know what's common knowledge we think just like you said,

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Speaker 3: stripping is dancing. Yeah, I'm sure you had no idea

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Speaker 3: I feel like any stripper we meet that started at

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Speaker 3: ever saw that trajectory absolutely, But when did you start

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Speaker 2: Happen in the strip? Like right away was starting for yourself.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so when I left the strip club, I

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Speaker 1: this is what age now fifteen. Okay, you didn't last

445
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Speaker 1: very long.

446
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Speaker 3: You said.

447
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: I was in there a year. Okay, I don't think

448
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: I was. I was at my grandparents for a while.

449
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 1: But when the institution started it was fifteen.

450
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 3: Where were you staying? Like? Where was your home? Like

451
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 3: when you were fourteen?

452
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: I was living with the drug dealing pen and then

453
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 1: I left started stripping. Was staying with the strip with

454
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 1: with the stripper who introduced me to that, and then

455
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 1: I went to Saint Gonna work.

456
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 5: So in your grandparents' home, the rule was that you

457
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 5: had to go to church.

458
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Speaker 2: I gotta go to church.

459
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so by fifteen, church is introduced. Yes, at this point,

460
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,959
Speaker 5: did you feel like church would be like now this

461
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 5: new reawakening or.

462
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 3: Rebirth or you felt safe? Yes?

463
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 5: Their church was okay, yeah, let's get into Then you

464
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 5: you getting into church?

465
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got into I got into stability with

466
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: my grandparents. It was stability. I got into got back

467
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Speaker 1: into school because then I dropped out of school.

468
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: Obviously.

469
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 1: So I got back into school, Okay, got me a

470
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: little summer job, and then they had me in church

471
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Speaker 1: all day, every day, all day. Oh my gosh, Oh

472
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: you had those type of I had those type of godparents.

473
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Speaker 1: It was something every day. And so I was like,

474
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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna be here. I'm min as,

475
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: We'll do something, find something I enjoyed. At that time,

476
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to sing, and so I joined the youth

477
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: choir and so I was singing for Jesus and I

478
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: befriended this young lady in the choir. You know, my

479
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: my grandparents knew her mom, and I knew her from

480
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: visiting the church, and then when I joined the choir,

481
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: we really got.

482
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 3: The same pitch. No.

483
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: She was eighteen fifteen, and one day she pulled me

484
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: to the side after choir rehearsal, pulled me to the side,

485
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: and she was like, I know you used to dance.

486
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, how do you know that?

487
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: How you know I used to grandparents your grandparents end.

488
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: Dang, yeah doing good. Now she was out in the

489
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 2: street club, but she over here with that.

490
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: And so she was like, I know you used to dance,

491
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 1: And I was like she was like, but don't trip.

492
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: I danced too present, tense, and so I'm like okay.

493
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: And so she was like, you don't have to stay

494
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: with your your grandparents. I got my own place. She

495
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 1: was like, look outside, you see my car. She was like,

496
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm dancing and you can come stay with me and

497
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: we'll dance together. So I'm like, you know, okay, you

498
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: know this is my friend, this is my girl. So

499
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool. So I run away from stability,

500
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: run away from my safe place to go move in

501
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: with my friend to dance. However, when I got there,

502
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: dancing was not a part of the plan.

503
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,239
Speaker 2: She was basically like, dancing, ain't it.

504
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: If you want to see some real money, you gotta

505
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna have to sell that thing. So

506
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: my choir member from my church was like, yeah, we're

507
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: not dancing, We're finla be hoes.

508
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: Did she want some of your money? No?

509
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I later found out she was with a pimp. It

510
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: was a scheme that Tad set up. She didn't tell

511
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: me at first.

512
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: I didn't know at first, but.

513
00:22:52,840 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: I knew she did. She not here. No. No, Todd

514
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 3: is Candy her ex husband, Todd. That's his name. Candy's husband.

515
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 3: What's Todd? What you be? She is? She is a girl. Okay,

516
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: you bring on fat white lady, and.

517
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 5: I'm gonna help her while she's coming down to Atlanta.

518
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 5: She needs to know Housewives of Atlanta. Okay, Bron, it's embarrassing. Okay,

519
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: well because even my baby daddy know. Pat, I'm like,

520
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 5: but that's mama Joyce said that anyway. Anyway, so it

521
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 5: was a scheme that she probably set up with her

522
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 5: pimp to bring you into the pault.

523
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: What transpired from there? How long will you do this?

524
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: Because I ain't gonna hold you. God, damn, this is

525
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 3: once every year.

526
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 5: It's like trauma trauma.

527
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I can't say that. I said God. You

528
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: gotta say God.

529
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 5: That was God.

530
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: Damn.

531
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Speaker 5: Oops, y'all are watching this on the video we came

532
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 5: in our church fit.

533
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 3: You know, church fit. Ain't no cleav it. Sorry, fellas,

534
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: ain't no the cherries give hord for you. They messed

535
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 3: the shirt. She said to these hoes today.

536
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 5: You know what, I would like to play it back,

537
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: And we had the subtitle it I bet you in

538
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 5: here the I didn't hear the but okay, so what

539
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 5: ended up happening during this time that you're with this

540
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 5: friend and her pimp.

541
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't with the pimps. Okay, yeah, so just with her.

542
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: She basically got me ready for the first date. You know,

543
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: we went literally went from singing for Jesus at our

544
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: church to now she dressing me up?

545
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 3: How does she find? What were you?

546
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: Like?

547
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: I was saying to Jesus the coming on ball that no,

548
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: I can't say that. Sorry y'all.

549
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 5: Sorry, okay here, well you ain't you ain't wrong, ain't wrong.

550
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: But yeah, so she just got me ready for the

551
00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: first day.

552
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: What were how are you feeling? Like, do you remember

553
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: like told like, yeah, what did she tell you? How

554
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 3: did she prepare you? Like did she tell you about

555
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 3: condoms or maybe like what to put on? Like what

556
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: was that first experience?

557
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, it was a whole rundown, and I

558
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: think it just was like have you ever just sat

559
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: there just you hear them? But it's like an outer

560
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: body experience, like I'm really getting ready for this. And

561
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: then she was like, well, I got something to calm

562
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: you down. So not only did the choir member introduce

563
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: me to the prostitution, she introduced me to drugs. So

564
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: I started with the cocaine and the X and all

565
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: that hold on coke.

566
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: Calms you down, or maybe she just wanted you out

567
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 3: your head. Yeah, I mean you would know what That's

568
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 3: what I said. I don't know what she was talking about.

569
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: I thought, turno, No it was I don't know if

570
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: she was just trying to calm you know, get you

571
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: out your your sobriety, get into the place.

572
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 2: So it was just oh, you know what, confidence, here

573
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: you go.

574
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: There you go cocaine confidence. Yeah. So wow.

575
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 2: I don't think you ever forget your first your first client.

576
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: What was he like? Was he white? Was he black?

577
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: Was young? A black? Fat?

578
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: Was They always say you don't do black, don't go

579
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: black because he's either a pimp or a police.

580
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Armenian. It was in the valley in La.

581
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 5: I've never heard that. I always hear don't go black.

582
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 5: There they got big dicks, That's.

583
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: What I heard. Wait, because if you look for those

584
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: of you that may not know we talk about, if

585
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: you were ever on a site or you're ever seeing

586
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 3: women talk about who they're looking for, they'll list out

587
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: that they won't take black men. A lot of sex

588
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: workers black women won't take black men.

589
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: Well, my homegirl that used to be on arrows. She

590
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 5: told me she didn't take black men because her cap

591
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: was six men a day. She did out calls, but

592
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 5: they either went too long or too big or and

593
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: I hate that she said this was her words, or aggressive.

594
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 5: So because of that, she steered clear of black men

595
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 5: as clients.

596
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 2: I was just told it was either a pimp or

597
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 2: the police.

598
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 5: Wow, okay, interesting, Okay, So your first client was Armeni Armenian.

599
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: That's very la, very much so in the valley.

600
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it was an Honting honey.

601
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what was your name? What was my name?

602
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

603
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I know they used to call me a little bit

604
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: before I changed my name to queen. Okay, So I

605
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: think I was just going by that because I always

606
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: was short and I was smaller than the in statue.

607
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 2: So I just went by that.

608
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: And were you in a car?

609
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: Were you was in the car?

610
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

611
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 2: She took me straight to the Blade.

612
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were on the Blade at fifteen, fifteen years old?

613
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: Where's the Blade? Because I've heard about fig Maybe we

614
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: could if you could get.

615
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 5: Didn't they do a documentary about Yeah, this particular strip.

616
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: I thought you've talked about it. Yeah, I didn't know

617
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 3: about fig Okay, I've never heard a blade.

618
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: So in the valley you got Sherman Oaks, Sherman Way,

619
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: you have places in like.

620
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: Where are some other ones?

621
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: Obviously a sunset, you know, Hollywood Boulevard, things of that nature.

622
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, yeah, so this is still today then a

623
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: place where.

624
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 5: You can get Okay, so you're fifteen, you've had your

625
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 5: first john. Does it get easier harder? Do you disconnect?

626
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna get to you going back to

627
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 5: the place that brought you this. But how long were

628
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 5: you were you doing prostitution.

629
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: And then it? Did it go to porn from there?

630
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

631
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you did all all the times. I'd like to

632
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 3: ask you a question that might be uncomfortable, but I'm curious.

633
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 3: A lot of my friends that do sex work, we

634
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 3: may laugh about the fun moments together or something silly

635
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: like girl he could get over he wanted this. What

636
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 3: was the scariest moment for you?

637
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: Oh, we're gonna get there. Okay, so it got real bad.

638
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: I think that was the turning point. The scariest moment

639
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: was my tur was your turning However, before I got there,

640
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: I went through things like pimps trying to kidnap me,

641
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: and you know, tricks pulling out guns and knives.

642
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: I've been robbed on a blade on the track or

643
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: whatever they call it, because.

644
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: You weren't giving the money away, so you had the

645
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: money on you.

646
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: Well, some people go out there to rob the prostitutes

647
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: because they know they're getting cash. It was way before

648
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: cash apps and squares and Benmo and PayPal, you know,

649
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: it was it was a cash transaction, so.

650
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: You had to go to the public.

651
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, so for the most part, a lot of men

652
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: and women know that that's an easy lick, go out

653
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: there with the women are a little bit more less

654
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: vulnerable than me, and you know, they're less of a

655
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: threat than a man. So an easy hit is to

656
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: go on the track and hit a prostitute, get her

657
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: money or whatever.

658
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: So I went through a lot of that.

659
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: What percentage of men were trying to do things without condoms?

660
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really run into that a lot.

661
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a few, but I didn't really run.

662
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: Into that a lot.

663
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: I think I started seeing that more so on the

664
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: porn industry when my clientele changed.

665
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: Wow, now that's what I to get to. Yeah, so you.

666
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 5: Go from prostitution on the blade to porn, so doing

667
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 5: it on video. Now you talk about your clientele, uh huh.

668
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 5: And it brought you kind of back to the church

669
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 5: just a little bit, kind of sort of well I

670
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 5: need to know about your clientele.

671
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: That was God fear men.

672
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so even before I think, before porn, a lot

673
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: of my clients were pastors.

674
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: Now this is interesting being in church. Yeah. Do you

675
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: you said you just left Orlando. Do you remember hearing

676
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: a story about New Destiny? M M. There was a

677
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: church I went to growing up in Orlando, and the

678
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: pastor of the church died in New York and hotel

679
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: room they set up a cocaine overdose and he was

680
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 3: with a sex worker his wife and now I think

681
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 3: with a new husband now runs that church. Maybe she

682
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: named it something else, But I had heard my whole

683
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: life that like the highest pain customers, or like the

684
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: most frequent or sexy to talk about just crazy in

685
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: a story where it was pastors and policemen, they told

686
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: you they was pastors.

687
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 5: Some of them did they have kicks where they was like, ooh,

688
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 5: call me pastor away, like I didn't know the.

689
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Like some of them were well known, so I just

690
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: gotta knew. Oh yeah, some of them were well known.

691
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I ran into some in church because so this is

692
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: the thing I would have paid to see their face

693
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: on you. So it was times where, like I said,

694
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: prostituting before I got into the porn industry, I still

695
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: went to church Like it didn't matter what I did.

696
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: I was on drugs at this point, I was prostituting, stripping,

697
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: selling dope in and out of jail, do it. But

698
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: I still went to church. And I thank god that

699
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: my grandparents gave me that because even though I was

700
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: living wild, I was wild, but I still had that

701
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: relationship with God.

702
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: People say you're a hypocreator whatever, you know, Like.

703
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: For those of us, I feel like I'm someone that

704
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: casually goes when it's a holiday, or a friend drags me, right,

705
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: when a friend dragged me, and when it happens, there's

706
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: something I want to change that day. How did that

707
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: never happen?

708
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: What?

709
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: Or it did happen?

710
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: It happened. But then when the money gets low, that

711
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: flesh rises again.

712
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: So when you go to church, you'd be like, I'm

713
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: doing the wrong thing.

714
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, especially if that message is right, that

715
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: song is right, and then it's like, dang, I'm gonna

716
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: go to the club, or I just left a married man,

717
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: or I just left doing this. You know it would hit,

718
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: but you know, you have to make a decision, and

719
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: sometimes we're just not ready to make that decision. And

720
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: so I would be in church and then I see

721
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the dude that I was just with the other night,

722
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: and that's how I will find out a lot of

723
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: them have positions in church. They were pastors, deacon's ministers,

724
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. Just by trying to go worship. I had

725
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: times where I was literally in worship crying. It's not

726
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: an ugly crying and want to tap me on my

727
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: shoulder and it'll be one of my clients. Wow, yeah, yeah,

728
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: what yeah, Okay, it was very with their family, with

729
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: their families.

730
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: What about I'm something I'm curious to, Like, you're almost forty,

731
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: this is happening to you as a teenager. Do we

732
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: think sex work is so moral and bad? Now? Dude?

733
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: What is your opinion in comparison? You were basically saying

734
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: that at the time, you felt like you were doing

735
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: the wrong thing.

736
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 5: I mean back then, I remember when I was in

737
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 5: high school, one of my close friends, her sister was

738
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 5: a dancer at Magic City, And back then being a

739
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 5: stripper was so taboo, you didn't They weren't proud, but

740
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 5: they made money and they were the girls in the

741
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 5: strip club.

742
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: Right.

743
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: But now with OnlyFans and with you know, the like

744
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: ig models, we know what some of them are doing

745
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: on the trips that they go to. It's a lot

746
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 5: more normalized sex work now than it was back.

747
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: Normal more than today. No, I'm like direct question, do

748
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: you think it's wrong?

749
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 2: Yes?

750
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh you do? Yeah, And so knowing that one somebody

751
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: could be happy and doing legal sex work, and even

752
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: if it's something like a virtual a sexual relationship just

753
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: sharing nude photos, you feel like it's wrong or you

754
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 3: believe that it is wrong because the Bible. Where does

755
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: that come from.

756
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: I've never met a happy prostitute. Oh, will we know

757
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: how to pretend. There's no woman that likes to be degraded.

758
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: We like the money and the lifestyle. There's no woman

759
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: who will sit down. They'll tell you, oh yeah, I'm

760
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: getting money, I'm getting and all of that.

761
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: That's great.

762
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna portray that, especially if you have celebrity clientele,

763
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: especially if you're buying bags and you're living a luxurious lifestyle,

764
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: but internally you're not happy.

765
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: Now, that's why sex for money? What about if it's

766
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: porn and it's or it's stripping, or even if they're

767
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 3: making money off their feet. Horn's right, but she said prostitute,

768
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 3: So I want to know in prostitution it's just legal.

769
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: Is there any kind of sex work that you think

770
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: is moral?

771
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: No?

772
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: Okay, m hmm No. Does that come from experience or

773
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: because because you're a pastor now you know so much

774
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: more and maybe have such a close relationship to God.

775
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 3: I want to know if it's because your experience pushed

776
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: it away or if your relationship but God is telling

777
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: you that.

778
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: Both my experience and then obviously my relationship with God,

779
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: but even before I was really rooted into that as

780
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: a woman who did it, it is no. We know

781
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: how to make it look good, especially when I got

782
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: into porn. Shout out to my best friend Shaanna, our

783
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: mutual friend. I met her on the porn set. Oh wow,

784
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: So we literally met when I was eighteen years old.

785
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: On the porn set. We were doing an orgy scene.

786
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: That's how we met.

787
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: That's how me and my best friend met I was

788
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, and we just hit it off and

789
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: we became really good friends, and we're friends to this day.

790
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm the godmother to her child. She introduced me because

791
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: I was hood.

792
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,399
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I was wanted them.

793
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: I was hood. Okay, I was recompted. I was one

794
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: of them hood strippers of fighting in the clubs and

795
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: all that. When I got with Shawna, it was like,

796
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: you can't do that because we have a different crowd.

797
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I hang out with a different type of people, and

798
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: that's when I was introduced to the celebrities, the rappers,

799
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: the ball players, the Hollywood lifestyle. And so even in that,

800
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: with the money and the clientele of the celebrities and

801
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: high profile people, you still you're still not fulfilled.

802
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: You're miserable.

803
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: I don't care how they portray it.

804
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: I've never met even the women that I work with

805
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: today that are because I work my ministry is different.

806
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: I always out from that other church. I'm not super religious.

807
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: It's not I don't fit anywhere the church. I don't

808
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: fit in the church because they say I'm too worldly,

809
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: and I don't fit in the world.

810
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 2: They say I'm too churchy. So you know, I'm in

811
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: my own lane.

812
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: But I deal with a lot of women who are

813
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: sex workers, even men who have prostituted themselves. I never

814
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: sat with a happy prostitute, porn star, orstriper.

815
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: Now do you feel like out of the women you

816
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 3: know and men, I will I will say in my twenties, they.

817
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 5: Made it seem like they did it because they enjoyed

818
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: it or they liked it. I will say at thirty

819
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 5: five now the people who have either had to go

820
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 5: back to resort to it, or the women that at

821
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 5: their lowest right now would rather ask me or someone

822
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 5: for help before laying on their back. Because that's my

823
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: thing too. I mean, they've all laid on their back.

824
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 5: A lot of my friends have laid on their back

825
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 5: from me, And so I even be like bro at

826
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: some point though, in your big age, just go do

827
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: it again.

828
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 3: In the way how they.

829
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 5: Feel about themselves now and how they've worked through traumas

830
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: or childhood things or their self worth, they physically cannot

831
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 5: imagine doing it again.

832
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: You know, like I find up going back to an

833
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: office job for you well, no no, no, no, no

834
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: no no no not even cloth, not no no, no, let

835
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: tell and I'm going to die on this sword O.

836
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go back to something that they had

837
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 3: to do before they elevated. And a lot of the

838
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: times when we talk about sex work because everybody else

839
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: congratulates you when you're done. That's why I think people

840
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: don't want to go back.

841
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: Do you think you know the image of doing it?

842
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: No?

843
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: If I, if I, if I think about going back

844
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 5: to a job, you literally said on the break, I'll

845
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: never never go back to office.

846
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to go no, no, no.

847
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: But night and day from me saying literally, I wouldn't

848
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: even know today what my price would be like because

849
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: of there was pride in actually working at Goldman Sachs

850
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 5: and things like that at this big age.

851
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 3: And in the book.

852
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 5: That we talk about survival sex, there's no pride that

853
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: I have in having to sleep with men that I

854
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 5: didn't like to pay a bill.

855
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: But this time you don't get rich guys to give

856
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: you cash. No, no, no, no.

857
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: There's a big difference from also dating men who give

858
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 5: me money than me having to date.

859
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I have sex.

860
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 5: A man for my line with sugaring, and I'm not

861
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 5: I'm not sugared.

862
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: By any men in my life talking about you. I'm

863
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: talking about thin line between cash for money. Say, if

864
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: you are a sugar baby, you are a sect work.

865
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: That's a prostitution.

866
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 5: I'm saying a woman dealing with a man with money

867
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: who gets her money and she likes the man, and

868
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: they're in a relationship.

869
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: That's different. That's way different. In a relationship is also

870
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: different from women dating somebody. They'd be like, oh, girl,

871
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 3: you know he'd be giving me x y Z. This

872
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: is all just subjective to me. All of it is

873
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: sex work. This whole hierarchy of.

874
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: It can't But if a woman, if a woman can

875
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 5: make the money to live on her own and not

876
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 5: have to depend on a man, I highly think that

877
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 5: ninety nine point nine percent of women, if they had

878
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 5: the skills, the degrees, the ability to make money without

879
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 5: having to lay on their back to not having to

880
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 5: depend on a man.

881
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: I think some of these girls that wouldn't do that

882
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 3: would also date a rich dude that was fucking them,

883
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: didn't care about them and giving them money. They will,

884
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: But I would say that's all of the same, and

885
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: we act like prostitutes that are on the blade or

886
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: fig are different from a lot of the I'm not

887
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: saying that.

888
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 5: She's saying though, that none of them are genuinely happy

889
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 5: with having to do that to live.

890
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: So this is they wouldn't choose.

891
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: A woman who is dating a man because he has

892
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: money or she likes him, or he's taking care of

893
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: her is different from a woman who has to wake

894
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: up and go online or pick up her phone and

895
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: sleep with strangers to fend for her life. I agree

896
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: with that that's different. So if I meet a guy,

897
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: If I'm single and I meet a guy and he

898
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: has money, and he's not super attractive, but I know

899
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: he has money, and I'm gonna give him a chance

900
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: because he has money, and as time goes on, I

901
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: start to like him. Did you get to know a

902
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: person sometimes you start to like him the ugly day

903
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: that like they say, if he got another one that

904
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: feel big grow on you. But me having to wake

905
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: up and go and sleep with different men so that

906
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: I can have a roof over my head so that

907
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: I can feed my kids, but I can pay my bills.

908
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: I've never met a woman, whether she's on OnlyFans, whether

909
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: she's on the track or in the strip club, who

910
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: is genuinely happy with this decision.

911
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: I think that it is different from the level of

912
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: sex work. And I only say this because I have

913
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: ten women in my phone that are fucking ball players

914
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: that don't care about them that they're sharing around with

915
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: different friends X Y Z, and I bet they would

916
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: do it again and again and again because the money

917
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: looks different. It's less of a risk. And I also

918
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 3: believe that the luxury lifestyle is a high that I

919
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 3: don't think a lot of women would get off of.

920
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying that to me is happy prostituting now,

921
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 3: whether it's short lived or not, I don't think. I

922
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: think this is all of this.

923
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: You've talked about these same girls though, that deal with

924
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: these ballers that then cry because they're not being seen more.

925
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 5: Of course, I agree with talking about that, but I

926
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: agree with what you said. I've not met one you

927
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: saying that you have not met one woman that is

928
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 5: happy being degraded. And I think that again, when you

929
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 5: reach a level of self worth, which is what I

930
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 5: talk about too. So for a lot of women, they

931
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: don't know they're unhappy because they don't see themselves as

932
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: someone that is deserving. And I talk about that in

933
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 5: my journey with even men. Now casual sex is different

934
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: from me now like there, I finally feel like I'm

935
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 5: deserving of a man caring about what I'm doing in life,

936
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 5: considering me my feelings, talking about that, like caring about

937
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: what's happening with my family.

938
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: I deserve that.

939
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,919
Speaker 5: And so now the idea of being with a man

940
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 5: who doesn't propulses me.

941
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: And I think that that's the thing too.

942
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 5: There's so many women that haven't gotten to that place yet,

943
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 5: absolutely of valuing.

944
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 3: Themselves, So the PM don't know that they are in

945
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: the place. I agree. I think that's really what I'm

946
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: talking about here. So then I'm curious for you, when

947
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 3: was the turning point?

948
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: Because you you thought it was all for a while,

949
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: the lifestyle, hanging with the ballers, the actors, the celebrities,

950
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 5: going on the trips, the yachts, the was fine.

951
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 3: But what happened?

952
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: What was the turning point of you saying this, this

953
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: ain't right.

954
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Well, going back to what Weezie says, she said, luxury

955
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: is fun. It is right, but what you have to

956
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: do for it is what changes the dynamics. And so

957
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: even though like you said, all of those things were great, right,

958
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: but my drug intake increased. I overdose three times because

959
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: I could not be sober doing that.

960
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: I had to be high. I had to be drunk.

961
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: I had to I literally would wake up and take

962
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: a shot of Jose Quavo before I brushed my teeth

963
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: and got out of the bed so that I can

964
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: function in the lifestyle. To have the luxury stuff, I

965
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: had to sniff a line of coke and pop almost

966
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: three pills of ecstasy just to be able to get

967
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: through a weekend of sleeping with strangers for money.

968
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: And so yes, I had all of these things, but

969
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: I was dying. There's a scripture. I know we don't

970
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: go to churches.

971
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: There is a scripture that says, what profit is it

972
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: to a man to gain the whole world and lose

973
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: his soul? Which means you can have everything given to you,

974
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: all the luxuries in the world, and still.

975
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: Be dying on the inside.

976
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of us, that's

977
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: where we misconstrue the image of sex work because it

978
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: looks like they're bawling, it looks like they're having a

979
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: great time, and they are in that moment, but when

980
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: the hide comes down and when the sobriety kicks back in.

981
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 2: Now you got to deal with you.

982
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: Now you got to look yourself in the mirror and say,

983
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I got this bag because of all the men I

984
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: just slept with. I got this house and I'm living

985
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: in this penthouse in this high rise.

986
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: But this is what I have to continue to do

987
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 2: to keep it. That's where it starts.

988
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 5: Do you ever, you're about to cry?

989
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 3: It's so literally, Yes.

990
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: What you're willing to do for it is with changing.

991
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: But also are what you have to do because you

992
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 5: need a your head, you need to eat or like

993
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: and I taught it like that was my hardest chapter

994
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 5: in this book, because yeah, it doesn't feel good. And

995
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 5: when you get into therapy and you realize that, when

996
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: you have to hold that mirror up and realize what

997
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: you thought was fun, the trips and all that, and

998
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 5: it's like wow, Like you look at yourself and it's like, wow,

999
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 5: you didn't think nothing of yourself.

1000
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, because you said something earlier. Women who could

1001
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: get it on their own. It if we could get

1002
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: on our own, it's so much more satisfying and so

1003
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: much more rewarding versus standing in the mirror knowing I

1004
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: got this if you did it because you built a

1005
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: platform and you built businesses versus I did it because

1006
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: I sucked the a million penises.

1007
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. We got the same thing,

1008
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: but what it costs me more?

1009
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, you understand even when it costs you, the cost

1010
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 5: wasn't there.

1011
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: But inside, yeah.

1012
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: It's my morals, my soul. It wasn't hard work if

1013
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: you built it. Because the hard work versus I built

1014
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: it on my back. It doesn't equal out this And

1015
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: then it goes back to self worth. What do you

1016
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: think of yourself to let multiple strangers do whatever they

1017
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: want to you. You don't get to pick and choose

1018
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: because once, I mean, you can say no. But once

1019
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: you're in that room and they didn't gave you that money,

1020
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: they can do what they want. They can say what

1021
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: they want to say to you. They can come where

1022
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: they want to come, they can call you what they

1023
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: want to call you. They can do whatever. And once

1024
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: you're in the moment, what you're gonna do as a woman.

1025
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 3: You know what's hard about this conversation For me? Many

1026
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: people have heard me tell the story, But I do

1027
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: a TV show called sex Cells, and we explore businesses

1028
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: and how they make money from sex. I was brought

1029
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: a TV show called Sexit, and they initially wanted me

1030
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: to Hope and I've done sex Sell Now my four

1031
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: season and Sexit. They wanted me to cover people that

1032
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: were leaving the sex industry, and I was like, well,

1033
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: I can't do that on this platform or where. I

1034
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 3: celebrate sex and I celebrate autonomy. And there's a big

1035
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 3: part of me, as much as I can feel this

1036
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 3: moment and be empathic, that still stands on wanting women

1037
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: to be able to have the right to do what they.

1038
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 5: Know, and I want to be clear my journey, her journey.

1039
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 5: We can I'm still pro sex.

1040
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: But no why I'm saying this though. I think it's

1041
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: because I refuse to believe all of it is bad,

1042
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: but by the notion that nobody is happy, it's hard

1043
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: to then celebrate something if I think people are going

1044
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: to be in a dark place. I want anybody that

1045
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: wants to make money safely to not hate that they

1046
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 3: have to do this or feel like they're lower down

1047
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: and out. And that's what makes it hard, because I've

1048
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: felt like that. I've also had sex for money. I've

1049
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: been there, and then I wasn't. I've had ups and

1050
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: downs and lows like we all have. But it's hard

1051
00:46:54,040 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 3: because I don't intrinsically, intrinsically believe that every single sex

1052
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 3: worker can be unhappy. I think that circumstantial sex, which

1053
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: is what both of you are talking about, is what

1054
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: makes us unhappy. I need to have sex for my rent,

1055
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: and that's tough. I need to have sex or else

1056
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: this is my last option.

1057
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: But there are.

1058
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: Other sex workers in the world that let's look at

1059
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 3: the highest paid porn star or whatever. How come they

1060
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: haven't pulled out yet? There is just said it.

1061
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: They're the highest paid.

1062
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm saying, right, I think, And that's

1063
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: the circumstance versus choice. So when someone is making the

1064
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 3: choice to do it because they're either enjoying they're celebrated,

1065
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: et cetera lifestyle, but also being celebrated, I don't know,

1066
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 3: and I know that this is a hard convo to have,

1067
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 3: but I can't be who I am for the last

1068
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 3: ten years and believe that everyone is unhappy.

1069
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: Let me say this, and even with the show and

1070
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: gear to those who want to do you know, like

1071
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: you said, choice versus circumstance, you have a platform where

1072
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: you celebrate it. So of course, if I'm still in

1073
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: the porn industry, I'm a come on here and talk

1074
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: about the great things about the porn industry and the

1075
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: money that it brings. And I'm going to act like

1076
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: I'm so happy and this is so wonderful because that's

1077
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: the platform that I'm in. But half those people that

1078
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: have been on your show, send them to me and

1079
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: let me have a conversation with them. I guarantee you

1080
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: the conversation is going to be different. The same people

1081
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: you have had on your platform that celebrate sex work

1082
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: and they love it and it's this, that and the third.

1083
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Let me sit down and talk to them.

1084
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: But I'm in this conversation too, and I've sold myself right,

1085
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: And I think, how did you feel? Well? I never

1086
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: had it because I needed to. It was sugar daddy is.

1087
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: It was things like that. It was never for food.

1088
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: It was a different story, which is probably why I'm

1089
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 3: able to have this conversation. Like, I know I didn't

1090
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: feel that way, and why said, I can be empathic,

1091
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 3: but at any point I could have stopped. I did

1092
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: that with a corporate job, right, like because it was this,

1093
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: Oh well, he can give me this at a bigger

1094
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: apartment or et cetera. And that's what I at least

1095
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: my choice. That's what I hope every story i'd hear

1096
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: is it was a girl who was safe. And I've

1097
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: had sexual assault happened, but it wasn't from any of

1098
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: those transactional moments, right, So it's it's a different and

1099
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 3: it's it's not me trying to say this the latest

1100
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 3: and that never happened to me. I know why. I

1101
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 3: can tell that story in a different way, but I but.

1102
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: You never had a sugar daddy.

1103
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 3: Well, no, I had a sugar daddy that we could

1104
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 3: beleeve the South. I have a question for you. We

1105
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: can bleep it up. You felt that way. It was

1106
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: not a sugar daddy, was a sugar daddy. I didn't

1107
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: love it, but I also at the same time, you

1108
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: got to remember I didn't need to do it in

1109
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: that moment. So I believe that because I've never been

1110
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 3: pushed to this is it or die? I think that's

1111
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: why I hadn't had those super super low moments.

1112
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: Did you enjoy it?

1113
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean my chapter that's not true. Please don't speak

1114
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: for me. My chapter is very different.

1115
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: And I wouldn't say, no, I'm talking I'm talking about that.

1116
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm talking about you.

1117
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: I think I hate my job. Sometimes I love my job.

1118
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: But what I will tell you is there were ninety

1119
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: percent highs for me in this. And also I had

1120
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: a lot of business acumen while I was sleeping with

1121
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 3: someone for money right like mine is called. I think

1122
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 3: it's like why buy persons when you could buy stocks?

1123
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 3: There's a lot of and maybe because also I always

1124
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: my next question to you before we started talking about

1125
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 3: this was actually, did you ever have an exit plan?

1126
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 3: And what was your job or business you wanted to start?

1127
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: Because I think everybody wanted that I did it. Maybe

1128
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 3: every woman did not write or get their chance to write.

1129
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: We're always saying I'm gonna do X y Z, this

1130
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: is gonna be over, I'm gonna stop selling drugs. I'm

1131
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: gonna start doing this right. So that's where I'm in

1132
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 3: this crossroad of this conversation because while I feel like

1133
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: God called you to be a pastlor leader in your

1134
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: life and having these experience and helping people out of

1135
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 3: that lifestyle, I don't know if it's all one hundred

1136
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: percent bad. The only thing I think is one hundred

1137
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 3: sent bad is drug use or being abusive to other people.

1138
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 3: But having autonomy of your own body and making money

1139
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: on it.

1140
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't know calling an autonomy and making money off

1141
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: your body whatever. Whatever it takes to make it sound

1142
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: good for a lot of people, they say, whatever it

1143
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: takes for you to sleep at night. It still doesn't

1144
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: take away the fact that we let people degrade us

1145
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: for a dollar.

1146
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 3: Do you think it should be illegal? I think it.

1147
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Is illegal, isn't it. Prostitution is illegal, right, I.

1148
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 3: Guess all across the board, Like there's brothels, like, oh,

1149
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 3: like escort websites are legal, but you can't have some

1150
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 3: Like do you think it should all be out so

1151
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 3: that women don't have this option?

1152
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 5: I think it should be legal to be safer. It

1153
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 5: being illegal creates a lot more agree, Yeah, Like if

1154
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 5: you legalize it the same way now you legalize weed,

1155
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 5: you can get it on a like it's more regulated.

1156
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 5: If prostitution was legal, there would the more ways that

1157
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 5: you could see the johns or you could that.

1158
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: You could hear information. Agreed, everything is dark well because

1159
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,919
Speaker 3: of it being illegal for the safety of the women

1160
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: actually over anybody else.

1161
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: I mean just just from a safety standpoint. But I mean,

1162
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 5: we talk about it being the oldest profession, you know,

1163
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 5: and we can all have different ways of how we

1164
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 5: view happy one hundred percent unhappy whatever. But wait, let

1165
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 5: me say this.

1166
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 2: Don't get it twisted.

1167
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: I had moments where I had good times, yeah, but

1168
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: they were short lived once the high wore down, once

1169
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the high WARLF wants to drink in all of that,

1170
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: and I had to deal with the reality of what

1171
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: I was doing.

1172
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: The start of your story answers at all, I don't

1173
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: even know how. I think even your high times a're

1174
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 3: just better than the last. Like, to me, it's very

1175
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: painful to be a teenager and go through that. You know,

1176
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: I'm not centing adult at the time that this is

1177
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 3: happening for me right and hearing you talk about that,

1178
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 3: it's just like it's terrifying because I want to have children,

1179
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: imagineing them just on the internet. It's like, you never know.

1180
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: One of my close friends she told me her sister

1181
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 3: was sex trafficked, and the first thing out of my

1182
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: mouth was, didn't you all grow up with money? Like,

1183
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: because that was really where my brain went. I'm like,

1184
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 3: didn't y'all live in this big a, like, what the

1185
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: fuck are you talking about? And she's like, guy on

1186
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 3: the internet, boom took my sister. But you know, that's

1187
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: what we assume. We think that these stories come from

1188
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: some kind of poverished living or like you couldn't have

1189
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 3: had a good family. Like it's really a kid just

1190
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 3: being a kid and ended up in the wrong place.

1191
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 5: And I'm kind of scared to hear now hearing everything.

1192
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 5: What was your turning point?

1193
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, holy like all.

1194
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 5: Of this sounds scary, but what was the turning point

1195
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 5: that you were like, this is it?

1196
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? So a guy flew me to New York.

1197
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: I was in LA and it was nothing unusual because

1198
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: men flew me out. You know, this is back in

1199
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: craigslist days, back page days, so my Space, things of

1200
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: that nature. So contacted me online, said he wanted me

1201
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: to come to New York. Nothing out of the norm

1202
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, long story short. He flew me from LA

1203
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: to New York on a one way ticket. So it

1204
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: was a disaster from the beginning. But I'm high out

1205
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: of my mind, you know, I'm going to New York.

1206
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: Going to New York, go get this money, and I'm

1207
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 2: coming back.

1208
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: He got me everything he said to me online was

1209
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: a lie from where he lived, where he drove all

1210
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: of the things. But the first three days he winded

1211
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: on me. He took me to get drugs, He took

1212
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: me shopping, he took meat to eat. You know, he

1213
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: gave me money. We end up going to a club

1214
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: in Manhattan. I'm there to work.

1215
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm there.

1216
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: You know, this is not a girlfriend boyfriend thing. You

1217
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: paid for a prostitute. So when he went to the bathroom,

1218
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: I started trying to work, you know, I was talking

1219
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: to other guys, and he saw me, got really really upset,

1220
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: and he dragged me out of the club and he

1221
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: fought me until we got into the cart. Now I'm hood,

1222
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm an fight back a little bit. But he looked

1223
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: at me with such a devious look in his eyes,

1224
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: and he said, I'm going to kill you. You are

1225
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: not going to leave here. And like I said, as

1226
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: a prostitute, I went through a lot of things on

1227
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: the streets, but this was different. He ended up taking

1228
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: me to this old, abandoned house and took me into

1229
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: a basement and it looked like something out of a

1230
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: horror movie. It was a big basement, but it had

1231
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: a small room. In the room was an old TV.

1232
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: It was a boarded up window, a small closet and

1233
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: a mattress on the floor with like a sheet on it.

1234
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: And he threw me in his basement and he raped

1235
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: me and he beat me. He was a Haitian man,

1236
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: so he chanted voodoo over me. He tried to do rituals,

1237
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: and he told me over and over again, you're going

1238
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: to die. I'm going to kill you. And when they

1239
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: say you have near death experiences and like your life

1240
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: flashes before your eyes, it is true.

1241
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 2: I knew that. I knew that he was going to

1242
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: kill me.

1243
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: It was like after he got done with his torturing

1244
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: and whatever he would get off one. He was very statistic,

1245
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: so I felt like once he got done doing whatever

1246
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: he needed to do to please him, he was going to.

1247
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: Kill me again. I told y'all, I stayed in church.

1248
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: No matter what I did, no matter how I lived,

1249
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: I still went to church. I still had a prayer life.

1250
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 1: It was very low, but I had one. He would

1251
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,439
Speaker 1: leave me in that basement for hours at a time,

1252
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: and it was one particular day because I felt like

1253
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: the time was coming. I was only supposed to be

1254
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: in New York for like three days. I was in

1255
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: there for almost three weeks in his basement. What yeah,

1256
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be there three days?

1257
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,399
Speaker 3: How are you counting time?

1258
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 2: I watched the sun go up and down? Wow, watch

1259
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 2: the sun go up and down.

1260
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 3: It's almost like hearing about a movie. Literally literally literally

1261
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: there's a Kennedy Ryan books where she has the same story. Yes,

1262
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 3: because this is a movie.

1263
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: It is speaking girl. I wanted to be play now,

1264
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 1: but thank you. And so he would leave me in

1265
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: that basement. And it was one particular day I said

1266
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: he gonna kill me. I just knew, I felt it.

1267
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old. Were you like, how could

1268
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: you not escape? Were you like changers? Or you were

1269
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: just scared? I so the door that he had me,

1270
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: the room he had me, and it locked from the outside. Okay,

1271
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: so he would have to unlock the lover movie this

1272
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: is the house Maid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his mom

1273
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: he would let me go.

1274
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 5: If I need to pick up my mouth because I'm

1275
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: just like his mom was an house No.

1276
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, one time he let me go upstairs to take

1277
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: a shower. And I'm assuming that was his mom. He

1278
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: was an older lady, but she spoke no English. They

1279
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: were Haitian, so she only spoke creole French. So I

1280
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: was trying to get her attention. He was watching me

1281
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: though the whole time, and I'm trying to get her attention.

1282
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: She she was like, I'm a mine my business. And

1283
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 1: plus she didn't speak English, so it was because I

1284
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: heard how he's talked to her.

1285
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: They didn't.

1286
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't know if everybody in the

1287
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: house is crazy. It's like that he all have to

1288
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: have eyes in this house. I don't know what's going on.

1289
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: But she didn't help me. She didn't even look at

1290
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: me like she knew. The setup of the basement was

1291
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: as if he's done this before.

1292
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, of course he has been, because

1293
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: if that night went well, yeah, maybe he would have

1294
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: let you go yeah yeah.

1295
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 5: Or he was just waiting to be triggered to yeah.

1296
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: Because he brought me on a one way ticket.

1297
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: So I'm like, maybe you already had your plan, you

1298
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: just didn't think it was gonna go that way. But yeah,

1299
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: So he would leave me in the basement, and this

1300
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: one particular day, I just knew that the end was coming,

1301
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: and something in me said.

1302
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 3: Pray, you knew the end for your life, yeah.

1303
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: No, the end for him to kill me, right, And

1304
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: so something in me said pray and I prayed, and

1305
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: I said, Lord, if you get me out of this,

1306
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I'll change my life. You just don't let me die.

1307
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: Don't let me die like this. I'm in New York

1308
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: by myself. My family wouldn't even know where to find me.

1309
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: They wuldn't even know where to put my body for

1310
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: my funeral because all my parents, my mom and my

1311
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: grandparents just knew Danielle just met me and with money.

1312
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Nobody knew I was stripping, Nobody knew I was prostituting.

1313
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: They sure didn't know about porn at that time. All

1314
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: they knew was because I was dating football players, I

1315
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: was dating rappers.

1316
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: I was in magazine. So they're like, she meets me

1317
00:58:59,440 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 2: and with money.

1318
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they wouldn't even know where to find

1319
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: And I was just like, God, please don't let me.

1320
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: I didn't tell this story. So how many times I

1321
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm getting to.

1322
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: Ask because it's so real, and it's just it takes

1323
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: me back to a place. That's how nobody can tell

1324
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: me God is not real. And I just I called

1325
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: on him and I said, please, just don't let me die,

1326
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: not like this.

1327
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: A few days.

1328
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: Later, his friend, for whatever reason, came to that house

1329
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: and I'm scared. I'm thinking he's a part of it.

1330
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: It's his turn now for whatever reason. And I know

1331
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: it was God because he came down there to that

1332
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: basement and opened that door, and he looked just as

1333
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: horrified as I did, like what's going on? And I'm

1334
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: telling him, like, your friend had me locked down here

1335
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: because he remember he was in the club with us,

1336
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: so he remembered me.

1337
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: He was like, you're still here. He didn't know I

1338
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: was still in You're.

1339
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 3: In the bathroom in the basement. Every ding is that? Why?

1340
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 1: Like he could what did that room look like that?

1341
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: He was like, what's going on? So the basement looked

1342
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: like a regular basement. It was a room in the basement,

1343
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: like a little room that I was kept in. I

1344
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: don't know why that man came downstairs for whatever reason,

1345
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: but I thank God that he did. And he heard me,

1346
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: or I guess he was calling the dude and he

1347
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: was like, hey, where are you at?

1348
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: And I was like huh.

1349
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: And he opened the door and he's like, because mind you,

1350
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm beat up. I look all disarrayed. I'm all jacked up, right,

1351
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: So he's like, this ain't the same girl that came

1352
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: out and you know, I was beautiful and I look great,

1353
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: and now I'm all disoriented and he's like, what's going on?

1354
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Tell him your friend is psycho. He's trying to kill me.

1355
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Please help me out of here. He was like, come on,

1356
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: come on, come on. He helped me out, and he

1357
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: was like, do you have anywhere to go? I knew

1358
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: somebody in New Jersey. He took me to the train station.

1359
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: I got on the train and went to New Jersey

1360
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: and somebody bought me a flight back to LA and I.

1361
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: Never looked back.

1362
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait, you almost left the house too quick

1363
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 3: in the story for me when he took you out,

1364
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: Where was the God?

1365
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: I have no idea, I have no idea.

1366
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 3: So he came here.

1367
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: It was nothing but God he was not at the house,

1368
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: so I believe he was supposed to meet him there.

1369
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: So the friend got there before he did and came

1370
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: in the.

1371
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 5: House and came downstairs.

1372
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: He not upstairs, so let me go downstairs see if

1373
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: he's in the basement or whatever, and end up finding

1374
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: me down there.

1375
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 3: Have you ever heard from the guy again? The friend?

1376
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: No, the friend who helped you. I didn't want to

1377
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: talk to nothing.

1378
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 3: In my head, like did he ever say like, are

1379
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 3: you okay?

1380
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Try to like find like I think he was so

1381
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: everybody was. We were all like what's happening? He probably

1382
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: like what the what's up with homeboy? I'm still like,

1383
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: are you a part of the craziness? But when he

1384
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: took me to the train station, that's when it was

1385
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: like a wait, like, oh, he really did come to

1386
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: help me, he really is helping me, and he got

1387
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: me out.

1388
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: I took that train to Jersey.

1389
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: I got back to la He never never went back,

1390
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: never ever, ever ever.

1391
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 3: That's terrifye.

1392
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 5: And then what led you to a life of ministry

1393
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 5: and getting back into this church after the church was

1394
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 5: also a part of this becoming your life.

1395
01:01:59,040 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: Right way right?

1396
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: So ministry was never part of the plan, Okay.

1397
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to live for God because I think

1398
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of times people think being a Christian or

1399
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: being whatever you are, you have to have a title

1400
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: or a position.

1401
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: You don't, you can you can serve God.

1402
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1403
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 3: It's like whenever I make a post, like hey, y'all,

1404
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: look out for ice, go be a mayor. You want

1405
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: to make a change like Ice out like I.

1406
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Can be, you know, for good things without having to

1407
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: really be fully involved.

1408
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: And so I just I remember the vow that I

1409
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: made it. It made to God. Now, don't get it twisted.

1410
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: It was hard because that's all I knew since I

1411
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: was fourteen years old. So it was absolutely hard to

1412
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 1: stay on that on that path. But I knew that

1413
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: I knew if I went back, I wasn't gonna make

1414
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: it out, you know, And so I just wanted to

1415
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 1: be saved and live by the Bible and get it

1416
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: into church.

1417
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: And what was your like, how did you get normal?

1418
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: What was your normal?

1419
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: Girl?

1420
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: Normal? How did you get normal? How did you get normal? Normal?

1421
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to be normal. I didn't want ministry, and

1422
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: so I did. I end up getting a job at

1423
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: the post office where I met my husband.

1424
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was my boss. My husband was my boss.

1425
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 3: This is the story all.

1426
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 2: No, I wrote that before I met him.

1427
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 5: No, now we need a part.

1428
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 3: When I saw your wedding ring, I was so curious, like.

1429
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 5: Oh, go on, this sounds like the American dream from

1430
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 5: prostitution to the post office.

1431
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: Right, that was my first job.

1432
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: That was my normality. That's all I wow.

1433
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: But in the midst of me being normal, God said, no,

1434
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: you have too powerful of a story and you didn't

1435
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: go a lot of times we don't go through it.

1436
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: We go through for ourselves, we go through it for

1437
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: somebody else's That's what I feel about this podcast.

1438
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is me sharing my.

1439
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 5: Story and us writing this book.

1440
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 3: Yes, it's it's for whoever.

1441
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 2: It's for somebody else.

1442
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: To me. When I saw your ring earlier, I think

1443
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 3: to myself, because it's a question people always have for me.

1444
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: What is your boyfriend think of your show? Or how

1445
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 3: do you date with a podcast? We've heard that that

1446
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 3: for years. And when I was looking at your ring

1447
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: and you're telling the story, I'm like, I wonder if

1448
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 3: he learned to be comfortable or if he just knows people

1449
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 3: need to hear it to go through their own journey this.

1450
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: People need to hear this.

1451
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 5: How does yet So, how does your husband feel about

1452
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 5: you sharing this story?

1453
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: Was it a conversation?

1454
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 5: How's he gotten comfortable with everyone else knowing that this

1455
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 5: was your your truth?

1456
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, when he met me, he knew the story.

1457
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: So now he met me, Like I said, he was

1458
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: my boss and when we became friends, and he's older

1459
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: than me, so he had daughters, all girls, and he

1460
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: was like, my daughters need to hear your story, you know,

1461
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: they need they need to sit down to hear your

1462
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: story and see what what life could be like. So

1463
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: he bought a book and Wrottin read the book and

1464
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: came back to work and was like, I want to

1465
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: show you that all men are not bad and clock

1466
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: out what's going to there might be a little too

1467
01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 1: much hope for the hose. That it's hope for the

1468
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: hose because I hear that. No, they need to hear that,

1469
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of times where we hear once

1470
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: a whole, always a hole. Ain't nobody gonna wife you?

1471
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: Who's gonna marry you? Knowing you didn't just do your

1472
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: strip or just prostitute, but you are on a film,

1473
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: you know, and so what man would marry you?

1474
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: And they need to know that.

1475
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: Listen that kain't nobody when God what they say, When

1476
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: God say yeah, can't nobody say no? And if that's

1477
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: if you have a desire, I don't care what you

1478
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: done in your past.

1479
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: If you have a desire for a monogamous relationship.

1480
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: If you have a desire for marriage, who in the

1481
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: helicopter is is somebody to tell you that you can't

1482
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: have that because of your past.

1483
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie who in the helicopters?

1484
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: That's my safe We're before we get out of here,

1485
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 3: what are your alternate cuss words? Do you say? Frick helicopter?

1486
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 2: And what in the ben diesel is going on?

1487
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 3: What is? And shut the faith up?

1488
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 6: Ye?

1489
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 3: Shut the faith? This is hilarious now now real quick.

1490
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 5: Also before we get out of here, just because I

1491
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 5: think it is important. Not only where can people get

1492
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 5: your book, but when are you bringing it.

1493
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 3: Back to the stage? What's happening? Because from Porn to

1494
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 3: the Pulpit is also now a stage play the play.

1495
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah I can support.

1496
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So the book is on Amazon.

1497
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: Okay, the play.

1498
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 5: Published it is Okay, y'all support, y'all support a self

1499
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 5: published black woman.

1500
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: All ferd. They definitely find this book. I don't know.

1501
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm excited you ever.

1502
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 5: I thought you were going to tell the book no, no,

1503
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 5: to know that it's I need it.

1504
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I gave you snippets. It gets raw in

1505
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: the books. So anybody that's overly religious and sensitive. They

1506
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna be like she's a minister. She wrote, like,

1507
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm very real, I'm very transparent. God told me to

1508
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: continue to be me. Would you know what you're human?

1509
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: That part you're human.

1510
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: But sometimes the church makes you feel like you cannot

1511
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 1: be in church, people make you feel like you cannot

1512
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: be human.

1513
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: But that's okay. You know I'm gonna be her.

1514
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: And so the book was written and it saw Amazon.

1515
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: I did the stage play. I prayed that I could

1516
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: take this worldwide. We did a few shows. We did

1517
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: a couple of shows in Atlanta with Young Jock. We've had.

1518
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 3: Who else? You went to Charlotte.

1519
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: I went to Charlotte, went to Real car So I

1520
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: went to bat and Rouge with Darren Henson. We came

1521
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: back to Atlanta with Mama d and Willie Taylor from

1522
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: day twenty six And so the goal is.

1523
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 3: How what's the play?

1524
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1525
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 3: I remember Mama see I know some show now? Yeah?

1526
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 3: It hip hop girl. You know I want to call

1527
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 3: something for you because since I've been doing the show,

1528
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 3: I've had so many opportunities working from any TV show,

1529
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 3: any network. And what I've learned is so many people

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Speaker 3: listen to the show. So if you work anywhere where,

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Speaker 3: it could be in writing, you could be freelancing. If

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Speaker 3: you are somebody that can produce films, or you just

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Speaker 3: know someone and can send the email, please do.

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Speaker 1: If you are an angel, investor, a sensor, you just

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Speaker 1: want you just got money and don't know what to

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Speaker 1: do with and give it to me so I can

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Speaker 1: take your show around and then make a film. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the go So.

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Speaker 3: I've given a twenty four. It's because listen, you gotta

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Speaker 3: think Zola, and this is way more interesting in Sola.

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Speaker 3: Sola came from tweets, and I think what we kind

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Speaker 3: of forget when we're sharing our story is to ask.

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Speaker 3: So I ask all the time, like do you know X,

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Speaker 3: Y Z and people I've given jobs to people to

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Speaker 3: ask me for stuff. Yeah you know. So you might

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Speaker 3: be watching this and may be connected in a way

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Speaker 3: that you don't even realize. But it's always very very

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Speaker 3: helpful when you're thinking of something.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Why else? I say that too, whenever I hear a

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Speaker 3: good idea from somebody, I want to make money on

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Speaker 3: the idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all are. Girl. I

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Speaker 3: think you have all these different actors.

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Speaker 5: I'm acting that yeah, yeah, yeah, no, this is this

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Speaker 5: is great and you guys supported us and helped us

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Speaker 5: become New York Times bestsellers. So if you're looking for

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Speaker 5: a book, this is non fiction, okay.

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Speaker 3: And so was our book.

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Speaker 5: So make sure that you again support this independent book.

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Speaker 5: And and whenever you get it back to back on.

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Speaker 3: The road, let us know.

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Speaker 5: We would love to let our audience know where they

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Speaker 5: can come and find you online.

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Speaker 1: Oh I am on what all the platforms? Facebook, Instagram, TikTok,

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Speaker 1: is that anything else?

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Speaker 5: You give your name and we'll put minister Danny and

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Speaker 5: and it'll be in the description of this episode as well.

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Speaker 5: And thank you so much for coming on and sharing

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Speaker 5: your story.

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Speaker 3: Be too churchy.

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Speaker 1: So if y'all let the past, thank y'all listen.

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Speaker 3: I know, y'all, he wants to stay the happiness. But

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Speaker 3: you know what, I find that it's good to have

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Speaker 3: conversations that gets sticky because the thought is still there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, Like now I gave

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Speaker 3: the trigger one and I'm over here. Yeah, not everything here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I always say you don't have to have done porn

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Speaker 1: or been a prostitute to relate to some aspect of

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Speaker 1: my story, whether it's self work, self worth, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: whether it's drugs, alcohol, whether it's molestation, essay, things of

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Speaker 1: that nature, or just you know the relationship with your

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Speaker 1: mother or your You are going to see something about

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Speaker 1: yourself within my story without having to tram It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you anything, you went there before I's in

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Speaker 3: that book. That's what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: Thank friend, Well, thank you so so much for joining us.

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Speaker 3: This was wow different.

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Speaker 5: You know, I know we've been doing the solo pods,

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Speaker 5: but hopefully you like the direction.

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Speaker 3: But this was it had to be beyond saving them

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Speaker 3: to be happy. But they're gonna be real happy.

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Speaker 5: No, this was great, and I hope that you'all see

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Speaker 5: our improvement on our interview skills.

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Speaker 2: You know you did very well, y'all, didn't y'all changed.

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Speaker 3: Look at Wazzy dressed. I'm I ain't never seen weazy

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Speaker 3: little wholesome. She looked like a wholesome point like she

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Speaker 3: just did my choir.

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Speaker 5: I was telling me, I said, this was the outfit

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Speaker 5: when I go to my boyfriend's people.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I consider a church. Bi Barri and

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Speaker 3: I just knew I want you know they church too.

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Speaker 3: They do a Happy Birthday for like, there's a bunch

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Speaker 3: of nieces and nephews and after they sing Happy Birthday,

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Speaker 3: they start singing Jay you I'm not joking, singing for

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Speaker 3: Jesus too. Yeah, have birthday and then I'd be like

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Speaker 3: I I way to a threesome. Baby. Oh my godness.

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Speaker 5: Well, guys, hope you enjoyed this episode. Make sure again

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Speaker 5: so much for tuning in to another episode of Decisions.

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Speaker 3: Decisions should ask for donations? Yeah, passed off Patreon. Bye, y'all.