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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Goals Steelers Nation Radio put the back of the drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale l here with Mattson, but it's very, very

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Speaker 1: pleased to be joined at this time by Bob Labriola,

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Speaker 1: the editor of Steelers Digested Steelers dot Com. Uh, Bob,

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Speaker 1: it's been a while we've seen you, but we haven't

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Speaker 1: heard you on our airwaves since we changed studios here.

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Speaker 1: We finally got the technology working here in our favor

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Speaker 1: and glad to have you on. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: told you just changed the diet for the hamsters that

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Speaker 1: are running around in the cage on the wheels and

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Speaker 1: powering all the equipment, and it would have been fine, Bob.

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Speaker 1: September two thousand and four, We're in Baltimore. Tommy Maddox

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Speaker 1: gets hurt. Ben Roethlisberger comes up, walks onto the field

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Speaker 1: for the first time. Did you think eighteen years later

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Speaker 1: we'd still be talking about this guy? And now I

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Speaker 1: have two Super Bowl rooms? Not a coincidence? M uh Um.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. It didn't take long, um to

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Speaker 1: know that he was something special. I didn't know about

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Speaker 1: eighteen years, but um, you know the one I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a scout or a coach or a really

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Speaker 1: a football expert or anything. But for me, what really

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Speaker 1: struck me it was early on in that training case,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, at the start of practices when when

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Speaker 1: um it's like they called individual um period and I

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Speaker 1: remember that was the re establishing the mindset summer. That's

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Speaker 1: what Bill Coward Christen did after two years of the

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Speaker 1: Tulematics mistake, which is what I Christen don't um so um.

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Speaker 1: So they would have the quarterbacks, you know, all doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing as they worked on you know, fundamentals

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Speaker 1: and one of those things that don't look like the others. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I mean it was. It was

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Speaker 1: so so dramatic of a difference that I could recognize

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Speaker 1: it and I thought, wow, I mean this guy is

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Speaker 1: he started. You know, I don't know how good he is,

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Speaker 1: but I can see with my own eyes and he

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Speaker 1: is better than anybody else out there right now. I

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Speaker 1: remember watching him go through drills, those those drills that

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Speaker 1: he did with Mark Whipple, who was the quarterbacks coach

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Speaker 1: at the time, and he's sprintier right at full speed

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Speaker 1: and throw you know, fifteen yard out now I'll do

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Speaker 1: it to the left and do the same thing like

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Speaker 1: I'm watching just going Holy mackerel, like looks a little

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Speaker 1: different than whateverund quarterback running way faster than well Tommy

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Speaker 1: Maddics go to or me for that matter, and delivering

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Speaker 1: the ball on the mark like every time. Well, and

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Speaker 1: let me say this too, I really really believe that

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Speaker 1: one of the critical elements. Uh and you know I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't wish anybody any harm, but something that

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Speaker 1: really helped the Steelers and then was when Charlie Batchan injured,

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Speaker 1: his name went on I are because um that made

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Speaker 1: then the backup because you know, there wasn't anyone else

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Speaker 1: there on the roster that on the training camp roster

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Speaker 1: at that time that, um, you know you could put

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Speaker 1: him that job. Even though the draft pick was a

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Speaker 1: rookie and came from the mac you know, he was

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Speaker 1: still the number two guys that you had, and so

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Speaker 1: he was kind of forced to be, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: coached as the backup, kept backup reps in terms of

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Speaker 1: being fourth on the depth start, which he was you

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Speaker 1: know when camp opened, and um, you know it got

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Speaker 1: him on the field with better players because I remember

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Speaker 1: talking to one of the scouts and you know when

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Speaker 1: it was time for then to go in when you know,

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Speaker 1: early in camp, I mean he's out there was you know,

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Speaker 1: all the undrafted rookie receivers and those kind of people,

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Speaker 1: and it's kind of a waste. They I don't recall

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Speaker 1: what the plan was. He was supposed to number three

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Speaker 1: season long held. Yeah, and one of the greatest coaching

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Speaker 1: moves Bill Coward were made. He really didn't have a

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Speaker 1: choice because no, seriously, again, I'm not disparaging him either.

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Speaker 1: That's just the coaches, you know, that's the way they think.

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Speaker 1: That's in their DNA. But imagine if we Naddix. I

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Speaker 1: hope they put in Again, I don't mean to disparage anybody,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, there was a there were a lot of

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Speaker 1: Fame now, because maybe the Steelers don't win the Super

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Speaker 1: play him, you know, in his alent, fine coat told

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Speaker 1: Jerry to Paula, No, I'm not excited to see what

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Speaker 1: the rookie can do. Well, there's Steeler fans. Oh, Gary

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Speaker 1: Baxter sack Tommy Mannox in the third quarter of that game,

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Speaker 1: it was a shoulder and that led to a touchdown

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Speaker 1: that time. And the next series, to your point, Bob,

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Speaker 1: do Staley run, Do Staley run? Do Staley run? Antoine

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Speaker 1: And then his first pass in complete to Plexico Buris

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Speaker 1: Uh incomplete or actually intercepted by a dailiast Thomas on

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Speaker 1: he was he was fine and completed twelve of his

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Speaker 1: was it was not the smooth sailing for the rookie

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Speaker 1: Joe Robbie stayed in my mode. Um, but I was

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Speaker 1: if he kind of lost I did. I kind of

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Speaker 1: it came into it with some velocity and obviously accuracy,

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Speaker 1: wippen Hunt a little bit more often. UM, and I

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Speaker 1: remember a conversation he and I had after the the

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Speaker 1: then that just from there was one thing after another. UM.

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Speaker 1: you can be impressed, but you're not surprised. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's the way I kind of remember the rest of

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Speaker 1: that his rookie season, Labs. I even mentioned this to you.

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Speaker 1: my hometown's quarterback and all that, I went and pillaged

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Speaker 1: a bunch of the Browns scouting reports and read them all,

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Speaker 1: you know, as been as a draftable prospect, and there's

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Speaker 1: things in there. I don't remember what's in them. To

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Speaker 1: attic one of these nights real soon and hopefully actually

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Speaker 1: find him. But do you remember what the negatives were

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Speaker 1: on him coming out of school compared to Eli and Rivers,

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Speaker 1: except for small school. I think they they held that

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Speaker 1: I remember him being build as the least NFL ready okay,

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Speaker 1: that everybody runs. You. It was all shotgun and he

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Speaker 1: and you know the other thing about and and this

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Speaker 1: one of them relayed to me that they were in

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Speaker 1: you know, the watching film of him, and um, you

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Speaker 1: um so often, you know, shrugging off tacklers, running around

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Speaker 1: in his shue set deal, uh, explaining that drill that

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Speaker 1: Mark Whipple, the quarter quarterbacks coach, was putting them through,

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Speaker 1: a chance to pick him. Um. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: wanted Ruffelisberger and he tried to trade in the Jacksonville spot.

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Speaker 1: I believe they were nine. They were nine. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: took Reggie Williams. Reggie Williams right, that the football player

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Speaker 1: nobody was shocked he went that high, though, I honestly

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Speaker 1: I remember giving Larry a hard time saying, Reggie Williams

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Speaker 1: is going to go ahead of you. Of course he didn't.

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Speaker 1: But that was a good draft class. I mean they

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Speaker 1: the first draft, you know, of the first round. Well, um,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like scouts to me, because you canno convince

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Speaker 1: me that Reggie Williams was was worthy of being drafted

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Speaker 1: where he was, so he was a bossed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: but nobody batted an eye when he went, is my point? Okay, Um,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather know. It still doesn't excuse Cleveland, which did

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Speaker 1: not have a quarterback for twenty plus years, passing on well,

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Speaker 1: I know they're the franchise from being there. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean it's right to pick a tight end a tight

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Speaker 1: end that that's more than that's another right there, just

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Speaker 1: to make your head spin the paraphrase, Damn, what day

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Speaker 1: Mooney said to me about wide receivers. Tight end should

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Speaker 1: have to buy a ticket to get into the game,

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Speaker 1: especially in that era. You know, tight ends now have

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Speaker 1: evolved and you know they offensive coordinators are in love

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Speaker 1: with them and all the different things they can do,

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Speaker 1: and you know whatever. But I mean, at that time,

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Speaker 1: the position was just not that important that you would

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Speaker 1: pick one sixth right, six six he was six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they actually swapped spots with uh Washington to get to

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Speaker 1: they knew there to get Sean Taylor or Winslow, who

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Speaker 1: Butcher coached in college, and that was the lodgic behind it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if you look at that draft. Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning went first, then to the Chargers and they got traded.

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Speaker 1: Robert Gallery Larry Fitzgerald went third, Rivers went forth to

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Speaker 1: the Giants. People forget about that. They those guys got swapped.

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Speaker 1: Then it was Sean Taylor to Washington, Kellum Winslow at

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Speaker 1: six to Cleveland. Detroit took Roy Williams, D'Angelo Hall at area.

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Speaker 1: There's there's there's another receiver. He had three three catches.

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