1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, photoshoot fresh looking like wealth. I'm about to call 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: the paparazzi on myself. H live from the mercer run 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: up on yeez it the wrong way, I might murk 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: you fleeing the G four fifty. I might surface political referee, 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: I mean refugee. The solid can be purchased. Uh, everything's 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: for sale. Got five passports. I'm never going to jail. Hey, 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: welcome to the Blackout Tips podcast, your host Rod and Karen, 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: and we're in the house on a Tuesday afternoon all night, 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: I guess for another episode of the Blackout Tips. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Now. 13 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: You can find us at the Blackoutips dot com, iTunes, Stitcher, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: just search the Black Guy Who Tips. 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: Leave us five star reviews. We'll read them if we 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: like them. 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He's big ones hadn't broken yet because 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 5: the ones out were when we record the podcast them 50 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 5: the ones. 51 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 3: I tell them, well, you know you got a big 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 3: ass head a rickets. But uh yeah. 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: It's funny though, because when it does break, if it 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 2: does break, I mean, god willing, I can just send 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: my headphones back because I have a lifetime guarantee, right, 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: can't say that about everything? All right, you break something 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,839 Speaker 2: at the ninety days boom is done? That was it 58 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: with these? You get the lifetime guarantee. 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Okay, we both watched the nightly 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: Show today and premiered yesterday. 70 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: Everybody knows I'm a big Willarry Wilmore fan. I gotta say, 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: first episode, pretty good, pretty good. 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna get better than it was because 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: I think the first few episodes. 74 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna be working out the kinks. 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: The comedy is not, you know, gonna be exactly as 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: comfortable as you want. 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 5: Right, Everybody getting used to each other because everything's new. 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 5: The crew is new, the staff is new, every everything 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 5: is new. But I think once they get a routine down, 80 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 5: I think it'll runs a lot smoother. 81 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if format is new, they're clearly not trying 82 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: to do a Black cob A Report, right, Like they're 83 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: actually trying to do something different. They're not even trying 84 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: to do like a Black Daily Shows A little bit differ, friend, 85 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: but we'll see how it works out. Tonight they're supposed 86 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: to talk about Bill Coley, so I'm excited about that. 87 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: That should be interesting to see how that goes, right, Yeah. 88 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 4: He had to get beat out a few times. 89 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 90 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: Uh, and they already got some good guests Bill Burrows 91 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: on there, Tyler Quality. So anyway, I'm looking forward to that, 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: And of course the Flash returns tonight. 93 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I'm ready for the Arrow. I mean, I'm 94 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: excited about the flag, don't get me wrong, but I'm 95 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: really fucking ready for the arrow. 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's next, that's tomorrow, all right, man, So let's 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: talk about is Comedy Central has announced that they will 98 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 2: be roasting Justin Bieber. 99 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: Uh, come, since you need to stop this foolishness. 100 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: You don't like the roast? 101 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, they haven't really been good in a while, 102 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 2: but I feel like they could make some good jokes 103 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: with Justin Bieber. I don't know, I feel like he's 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: gonna back out, Like this feels like one of those 105 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: things or someone's ego. 106 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: It's gonna be too. 107 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 5: Big for what they're gonna do, right, and the feeling 108 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 5: is gonna be hurt, Like you have to have the 109 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 5: personality to be able to take the jabs that people 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 5: are gonna give you. And then a lot of times 111 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 5: the ones I've seen because of the way society is 112 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 5: and shit like that, a lot of people don't really 113 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: go that hard or either they go too hard. 114 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: Then you hear people go, oh, they went in on 115 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: them too hard? What the fuck is roast? 116 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Right? 117 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: And it's funny because like they had people in the 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: past that have big egos that couldn't do it and 119 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: or the roast turned up bad because they wouldn't allow 120 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: certain jokes, right, you know, like Donald Trump, you know 121 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: he wouldn't allow certain jokes about his family and shit. 122 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: And you know, I like, I could just see a 123 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: guy like Justin Bieber not having the ego to really 124 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: or not having yeah, not being able to withstand the jokes. 125 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: You know, then they're coming off real lame. 126 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: Plus you know at the end you have to read 127 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: jokes and like roast the comedians back. 128 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: I wonder what is comedic timing is? 129 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 6: Like? 130 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: But I'm but I. 131 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Always have a morbid sense of curiosity about these things 132 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: because I will watch a rose just to see if 133 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: even if it's horrible, to be like, wow, look how 134 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: horrible it was, you know. So I'm looking forward to it, 135 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 2: but I don't know, it feels too good to be true. 136 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: Like he's a kid that fucked up so much. The 137 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: material just writes itself, right. I feel like he's just 138 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 2: gonna back out. And because they haven't announced an official 139 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: date yet, he just announced it on his like Twitter account. 140 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 5: It's like, do you really want to deal with the 141 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: jokes and the jabs because they gonna go in Because 142 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 5: it's like he's the person that. 143 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: Own me in the hall. 144 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 5: You're not in the comedian community, so David, they don't 145 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: give a fuck, Like, they will joke your ass and 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 5: keep it pushing, and the jokes that you shoot back 147 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 5: will probably be nothing compared to what they give to 148 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: you because they're professional comedians. 149 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. The last one that really seemed to 150 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: like do something. 151 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: Well, got like a lot of attraction was actually James 152 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: frank O's roast and it was terrible. 153 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: It was the one of the worst I've ever seen. 154 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I like, I completely disliked the 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: James Franco rose because one of those guys all feel 156 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: like they don't want to say anything too mean about 157 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: each other. 158 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: And then two. 159 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: That was the one where Sarah Sulman got upset because 160 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: they were making jokes about her age and saying how 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: being viewed as an older woman in Hollywood could like 162 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: hurt your career and ship And I'm like, did you 163 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 2: make nigger jokes on stage? Like this is where you 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: draw the line? 165 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 166 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:46,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, or either they get the Lisa Lampanelli talk about 167 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: cuts and fucking niggers and ship like that, you know, 168 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 5: so and I because I personally don't think she's funny, 169 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: you know, so when she comes on, like, Okay, we're 170 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 5: going to get a bunch of those type of jokes 171 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 5: because that's all the material you know how to do. 172 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well not really. 173 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been boring to me, so I'm not trying funny. 174 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 5: I mean if a catcher, I mean, I don't My 175 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 5: tender span is probably gonna be really really low for 176 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: this unless you, you know, come out the gates. 177 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 4: Ha ha ha. I'm like, I got rather go sleep. 178 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: And this isn't like doing Saturday Night Live or something like. 179 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: This is a roast. 180 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna people are gonna make jokes about you, People 181 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: gonna go in on you. 182 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: To use everything you know. 183 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: Just dude, this got cat saying the N word several 184 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: times in the last couple of years. 185 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: Right, it's you know, not to make your run ins 186 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: with the law. He's daddy all kinds of in his relationship. Right. 187 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: She crying at some kind of gatherering. Yes, they got 188 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: jokes for days. 189 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: Let's see what else is going on. 190 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought this was an interesting article by a 191 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: lady for a Salon Priscilla Award. She is let me 192 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: go to the bottom because that has a description of her. 193 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 2: Priscilla Ward is a writer whose work has been featured 194 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: on health dot com. 195 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: Why did it just move everything back down? I didn't 196 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 3: want to. 197 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: Do that, all right, Health dot com, afropunk dot com, 198 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: Youngest dot Org, as well as in Essence, an AMMO magazine. 199 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: She's obsessed with natural hair, bell hooks, sandwiches, and really 200 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: cool art shows. 201 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: You can find her. 202 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: Tweeting about running one moment and being black the next 203 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: at mac Wait macon Nie Fromconifru wait Macaroni fro there 204 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: you go? 205 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 7: So uh. 206 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: She posted this It's called I'm tired of suppressing myself 207 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: to get along with white people. I pocket my black 208 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: rage and swap heygirl for Hello. But in making others comfortable, 209 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: I'm making myself sick. 210 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: I met my new. 211 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: Roommates on Craigslist, two white, one Chinese. Together we represented Portland, Florida, 212 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: China and with me DC. As we moved into our 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: apartment in our apartment in bedstyle last fall, I was 214 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: excited for the potential of cross cultural exchange. We had 215 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: to to get to know you pow wow on the rooftop. 216 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: We talked about ourselves. We brought up what brought. 217 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: Us to New York. 218 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: It was a warm evening in September, a couple of 219 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: weeks after Michael Brown was shot, and somewhere in the 220 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: mix I brought up Ferguson, hoping to spark a conscious conversation. 221 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Then it happened the Nightmara's response, what's happening in Ferguson, 222 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: one of my white roommates asked, I heard some kid 223 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: got shot or something like that. The words claiming in 224 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: my ears, how could he not know? Weren't his Twitter, 225 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: Instagram at Facebook fees flooded with opinions and hashtag I'm 226 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: sure he meant nothing by a statement. 227 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 3: We're all ill informed from time to time. 228 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: But as I stood there awkwardly, not saying a word 229 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: while hundreds of words ran through my head, it was 230 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: a reminder of how much I would have to suppress 231 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: in order to get along with my white male roommates 232 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: in our tiny four bedroom apartment, this place I would 233 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: call my home for a year. It hasn't always been 234 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: like this for me. I'm a girl with the fro. 235 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: Raised in the place once known as Chocolate City. I 236 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: grew up in a part of a black New Cliff family, 237 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: was homeschooled then became part of the many histories black 238 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: college experience at Temple University. After arriving in New York, 239 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: I became an intern in essence a magazine so safe 240 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: I liken my boss to an aunt. Those settings were 241 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: as comfortable as my grandma's cooking on a given Sunday. 242 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: Any given sunday, I longed to crawl back to my 243 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: tiny black universe, a place where I could create a 244 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: sense of peace, identity, and acceptance, A place where I 245 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: could sit there trying to untangle my fro and make 246 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: sense of what it means to be an African American 247 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 2: woman in this country, rehashing our history while facing present pain. 248 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: But life happens. Most of us can't stay in our 249 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: own utopias forever. Now I face the new reality. The 250 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: brief conversation on the roof that hot September night lasted 251 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: much longer in my head I spent. I sent myself 252 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: into a two hundred year old tizzy, reckoning with outdated 253 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: ideas on race, tampering with prejudice and stereotypes. I became 254 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: enslaved by my emotions. It's crazy, all this from just 255 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: to do being like what happened in Ferguson. I started 256 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 2: worrying about all the other things I might have to 257 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 2: explain my hair, the food. While I like Miles Davis, 258 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: Nina some Moment, and Marvin Gay. Maybe I should have 259 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 2: considered it as a teaching opportunity, but I wasn't feeling generous. 260 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: I was all twisted up inside the blaze over racial 261 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: dynamics and anxious what other mind feels my roommate might 262 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: stumble upon. I hoped he wouldn't say something really ignorant, 263 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: causing me to just snap and go off on an 264 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: angry rant. Then I'd have to make my living situation 265 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: salvageable by pocketing my black rage, putting on my best 266 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 2: smile and telling them it's all love. I wanted my 267 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: home to be refuged, a place where I could be 268 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: wretched when I wanted walk around in my bonnic fried 269 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: chicken and sing loud to Aretha Franklin's rspect suppressing my 270 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: blackness every day as exhausting. Back at essence, we used 271 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 2: sister girl language, but since then I'd face tougher environments. 272 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: I briefly worked. 273 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: At a now defunct women's fashion website where I was 274 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: one of the only black people. I would pitch ideas 275 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: that mattered to me, like how to do natural hair, 276 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: only to see them ignored, shovel to the side, or 277 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: dilute it like apple juice in order to make palatable 278 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: to mainstream whiteness. I was tired of catering to everyone 279 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: else's comforts. How much of a day of my day 280 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: to day experiences as a black woman do I have 281 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: to filter? 282 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: I replace hey girl with born Hell's. 283 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: I eat my leftover fried chicken outside the office in 284 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 2: order to have some common point of identifiable communication. I 285 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 2: pretend to care about Taylor Swift or white movie stars 286 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: or on their I've lost the count, I've lost count remarriages, 287 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: and those other white pop stars I could not care 288 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: less about. 289 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's cute. I tell them, yeah, that's cool. 290 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: As summer turned to fall and then winter, I continue 291 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: to be dumbfounded at the way for some white people 292 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: the killing of Michael Brown just didn't resonate. They didn't 293 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: feel the need to pay attention. I guess some white 294 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: people do act real vanilla, the only understanding and only 295 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 2: understand the realities of their own universe, like running around 296 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: drunk in sene costumes in the name of Senecon while 297 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: the Millions March NYC launches in response to non indictment verdicts. 298 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: That's real. In December, when the Gardner arri came out, I. 299 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: Became bloaded down with more emotional baggage than I could conceal. 300 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't care if I 301 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: wasn't mixing with others. I found my little black planet 302 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: at work. I went over to my black boss and 303 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: talked real low or real brief about how disturbing this 304 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: all was. I grabbed one of my homegirls I worked with. 305 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: We took to the streets to protest right outside my job. 306 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: I hope no one would see me and think something 307 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: is gotted. Walking home that night, I unleashed all my tears. 308 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to reach out and hug a black man. 309 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 2: Before I arrived in my apartment, I dried off my 310 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: face as though nothing happened. My white male roommate asked 311 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: me about the protest. I gave him a non detailed response. 312 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: I said something like, I'm really upset, but it was 313 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: a good way for me to get those feelings out. 314 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't handle revealing too much. I wanted to avoid 315 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: a load of conversation. I took a deep breath and exhaled, 316 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: closed my bedroom door, picked up the phone to spoken 317 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: whispers about how racist these non indictments were to my 318 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 2: parents and to my socially conscious white and black friends. 319 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 2: And I always wonder about people like I wonder how 320 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: much of people's online presence, because you know, black people 321 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: have a higher online presence than the average white. 322 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: Person, Yes they do. 323 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is seeking the solidarity 324 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: that people don't have in real life because they're like, 325 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 2: I'm in these spaces where I can't express this, so 326 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: then they go on the internet and sometimes, you know, 327 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's why people seem like certain people 328 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: are on tins. Everything is about this cause and that cause, 329 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: and this rally and that rally. 330 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 5: Because for some people the internet is a place of freedom. 331 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: A lot of people do not realize that for a 332 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: lot of black people and people of color, the internet 333 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 5: is the only place that you can go and for 334 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: some people literally be yourself, literally like you can go 335 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 5: and you can say things that if somebody you would 336 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: face to face, you wouldn't dare say. You know, you 337 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: don't have the the especially with Twitter because you know, 338 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: Twitter used hashtags and all that stuff. So it's one 339 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: of those things where you can say stuff and I 340 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: have to deal with, uh the backlash, you know, or 341 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 5: not unless your Twitter associate with your job is you know, 342 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: something else. But you know, if your job and things 343 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 5: and those other things not associated with it, you can 344 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: go on and just be free and be open. And 345 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 5: it's like you can go like she was on that 346 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 5: one hundred chat, like you going on Twitter, but like. 347 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: Hey, y'all, what's up, niggers? 348 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: Everybody like, yeah, yeah, what's up. 349 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 5: It's just one of that It's one of those few 350 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 5: places that are right for a lot of people. And 351 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 5: Twitter allows you to cultivate your own experience. So when 352 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 5: people come being racist, you can't block people in real life, 353 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: but I can block you as on Twitter. You you know, 354 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 5: in real life you can't be like, shit, the fuck up, 355 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 5: get away from me, you racist under a bitch, But 356 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 5: on Twitter I can say, I can say, and then 357 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 5: if I choose to, I'm not to, I just block 358 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 5: you and keep going. You know, because being black in 359 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: America you deal with so much fucking shit all the time. 360 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: Being brown in America, you deal with so much shit. 361 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: A lot of people don't really realize the things that 362 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 5: black people have to deal with every goddamn day. And 363 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 5: if you are not the type of person to be centered, 364 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 5: and I know for us to look at laugh, look 365 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 5: at tragedies and laugh, but sometimes that motherfucking shit get 366 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 5: old too, you know. So it's just one of those 367 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 5: things where when you deal with all the sadness and 368 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 5: depression and the killing and the dying of your people, 369 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 5: that shit really affects you. When you know, you look 370 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 5: up at the news and you see shit and you 371 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: be like, well, damn, that could have been me, That 372 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 5: could have been my daughter, that I could be in 373 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 5: my child, I could have been my grandma. Like that 374 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 5: shit will will make you fucking go insane and scream, 375 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 5: and then people wonder why you have people that go 376 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 5: to the extreme and it just black of the black 377 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 5: black Black black black cliffs mass black. Because I'm like, 378 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm tired of fucking hiding myself. I'm tired of not 379 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 5: being who I am. I'm tired of taking myself and 380 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 5: being correct, politically correct, just to make your ass feel 381 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 5: mother fucking comfortable. I will wear my eyefro, I will, 382 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 5: you know, have my I will do these things and 383 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 5: make you feel comfortable, because fuck you, because the world. 384 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: Is catered for you. 385 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 5: The world's not catered for me, So you're gonna have 386 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 5: to deal with me not saying that's right or wrong, 387 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: going different. 388 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: But I do understand people that take it to that 389 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 4: stream because they're tired. 390 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I think I don't know if 391 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: that's even an extreme. I just feel like that's just 392 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: being yourself, you know. To me, I don't even see 393 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: it as like I guess I would. I guess to 394 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 2: see this is a difference. Like some people have hit 395 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: me up about our podcast yesterday with Mike Lawrence, and 396 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 2: they're like, man, I'm so glad that you said something 397 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: when he brought up Al Sharpton. You know, they already 398 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: sent an email and Facebook messages and god, I got 399 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: a couple of tweets about it. That's how I talk 400 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: to all my friends, all of them white, black. 401 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. 402 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: Like I want us to have understanding between each other. 403 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: And I feel like if something I say is wrong, 404 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: I don't mind us having a conversation around like why 405 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: I feel a certain way and why they feel a 406 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: certain way. I think it's taboo for a lot of 407 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: people to even have these discussions. And this is one 408 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: of the things that drives racism in this country is 409 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: like people say they want to have a conversation, but 410 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 2: nobody really does, because if you have a conversation, most 411 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: of the time, you're gonna find out something about what 412 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: you're thinking is fucked up. Whether it's a conversation with 413 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: women about sexual assault, whether it's a conversation with gay 414 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: people by homophobia, where there's a conversation about racism with 415 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: people of another culture, where it's a conversation about xenophobia 416 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: or people from another country, you're gonna find out some 417 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: uncomfortable things. You might be mocked, you might you know, 418 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: they might laugh at you, they might be offended. But 419 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: people are so scared to be on either side of that, 420 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: whether the offended party or the person who's doing the offense, 421 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: that we end up just kind of stuck in these 422 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: like neutral areas where there's no discussion. Like, to me, 423 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: I sympathize with her, But then when I'm reading this, 424 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, but you're not wrong to feel, like, you know, 425 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: affected by the death of Mike Brown. You're not wrong 426 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: to say you know, to have a conversation with somebody 427 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: around the idea that you know, you might be messed 428 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: up after hearing that protest or whatever. You're like, you 429 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: shouldn't have to be shamed out of that. You shouldn't 430 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: have to be go to your room and whisper about 431 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: it in the place that you live because and many 432 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: times one of the reasons I don't believe in that shit. 433 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 3: Is because it's your living space. 434 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I. 435 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: Like, I don't believe in that kind of shit because no, 436 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: no one should have to make you feel uncomfortable in 437 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: your living space for. 438 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: Something where you're not wrong. I could see if it 439 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: was like, hey man, can you. 440 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: Just like not come in and throw your draws on 441 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: the couch like we got company now, Like I could 442 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 2: see that kind of shit, But could you not think 443 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: about race when you're at home? 444 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: Please? 445 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: Like that's not that's too much to ask, and for 446 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: someone for for the pathology, for us to just accept that, well, 447 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 2: this is the way the world is, even without them 448 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: saying anything that should lead you to be like, they 449 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: don't want me to talk about this. 450 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 3: She just assumed it because and. 451 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: She's probably right correct, because that's just life in America 452 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: where you're just like, I know they don't want to 453 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: hear about this shit, So let me just hold it. 454 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: In, right and talk to somebody that this understanding. 455 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 5: Because the thing about it is, like we say, America's 456 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 5: default is whiteness, right, And so it's just one of 457 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 5: those things where she was in tears. 458 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: Before she hit the girl, before you opened the door, 459 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: she like, Okay, let me wipe out. 460 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: My tears and get myself to get piss. 461 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: Off these white people somehow. 462 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, because it's one of those things where and a 463 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 5: lot of it is the way our culture works. And 464 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: also when it comes to conversations about race, people really, 465 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 5: like you said, they don't want to talk because when 466 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 5: things I bought up and when things I bought up 467 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: out of pure ignorance, people get mad, they get angry, 468 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 5: they get upset versus really understanding or really wanting to. 469 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: Hash things out to have that conversation. 470 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 5: And a lot of people who are very ignorant on 471 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: both sides, their pride steps in and they don't want 472 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 5: to come out and say the things that I taught 473 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 5: or the things that I thought I knew were wrong. 474 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody won't even do that. 475 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 2: I understand, but if you don't even have the conversation, 476 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: you don't even get to that point. No, which is 477 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: which is crazy to me, because I can't imagine living 478 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: with someone I can't have a conversation like that with 479 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: true you know. Maybe that's just i'ns boiled in a 480 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: certain way. Maybe this is also part of when I 481 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 2: go into an HBCU. 482 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: You know, this wasn't something where. 483 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: If we brought this up amongst our friends or in 484 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: our living area. Like I've never had to not talk 485 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: about black shit in my life in my living area, 486 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I've never had to go 487 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: somewhere and be like, let me turn off my blackness, 488 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: let me turn off this rage for a second, which is, 489 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 2: you know, like it unless I was getting absolutely paid 490 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: for it. Like that's the only time I've ever been like, Okay, 491 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: this shit ain't work related. But at the same time, 492 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: that means no one should be talking about it well 493 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: as opposed to in my house, we're friends, why can't 494 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: we have a conversation about it, you know, so, she writes, 495 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: saying she continues to right these non indictments reiterated what 496 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm up against every single day. 497 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: The unintentional ignorance of white people. 498 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: But I was aware of my willingness to put away 499 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: my justified black rage in order to ensure that my 500 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: interactions with white people remain comfortable. 501 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you gotta be willing to get a little uncomfortable. 502 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: Man, If this, if this sort of psychological piece is 503 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 2: a thing that you desire, I feel like you gotta 504 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: be willing to get a little uncomfortable for it. 505 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: All right, because if you're not, you're gonna stay at 506 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 5: this stage. And that place is a very You could 507 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 5: torment yourself in that place, and you, like you said, 508 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 5: you never really know how comfortable you might open up 509 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 5: their eyes. They might open up your eyes, but like 510 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: you say, society has taught us you don't talk about 511 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: this shit, so you go a fuck it. But you're 512 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 5: tearing yourself to internally to pieces because nobody wants to 513 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 5: have the conversation. 514 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: Right, you'll never be friends, right if you don't kind 515 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: of start with that uncomfortableness. 516 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Which sucks, But you know, i'd rather know for a fact, 517 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: like I. 518 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: Don't like my roommate they kind of racist, rather than 519 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to say anything. Maybe those white people 520 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 2: won't feel comfortable and then that's my fault, like I'm 521 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: not taking on that burden for you. The more I 522 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: hit it, the more crazy I became. By the time 523 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 2: my birthday rolled around in Decemmer, I was cooped up 524 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: in my bed, without an appetite, my fro needing a 525 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: good deep conditioner. I was making myself sick. I know 526 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: this needs to change. I understand that. For my own 527 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: growth and in order to forge honest relationships with white 528 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: people I meet, whether it's my roommates or my coworkers 529 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: or anyone else, I need to reveal myself more. I 530 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: need to start sharing about my history and my culture 531 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: and how it plays out in my everyday life as 532 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: an African American woman. I don't want this rage to 533 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: fester in the bitterness and or in fact, the very 534 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: close white friendships I already have. I don't want to 535 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: ignore my rage, but I don't want to be controlled 536 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: by it either. Constilla my emotions has made me feel 537 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: like I'm a ticking time bomb just waiting to go off. 538 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 539 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: I feel like she speaks for a lot of people's experience. 540 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: Here's the other thing I can't call what I can't 541 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: call a relationship of friendship when we can't talk about 542 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: racial shit. 543 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: It's my life. I'm in America. I see these things. 544 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 2: If I gotta pretend to be blind to it so 545 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: we can get along, we can't be friends if I 546 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: have to be if I have to, like, if you're 547 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: somebody where I'm like, I can't bring up anything bad 548 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 2: that happens to gay people because this person's homophobic or 549 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: they're very dismissive of homophobia. I'm like, well, then we 550 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: won't be friends because I'm not gonna stop talking about 551 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: shit that I think is wrong. You know, to me 552 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 2: make you comfortable, I can't go man. I saw this 553 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: article the other day about two gay people couldn't get married. 554 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: I thought I was fucked up. Whoa, whoa, man? I mean, 555 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 3: why you gotta bring that up? Like, okay, we can't 556 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: be friends then? 557 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 6: Uh? 558 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Things are calm right now at the apartment. I don't 559 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: bring up these sorts of conversations. I don't talk about 560 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: what happens every twenty eight hours a black person is killed. 561 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 2: My white male roommate and I we just don't go there. 562 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: It makes things easier. Instead, our conversations shuffled between our 563 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: day to day experiences at work, dating, and the nuances 564 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 2: of the city. I keep these for those forbidding conversations 565 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: behind closed doors, and even when I'm alone, I speak 566 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: in code. I don't say white, I use they instead. 567 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: Damn so she's in an adequate and frank aha oooh 568 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 2: they coming. 569 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: They're gonna hear you, girl, They're gonna hear you. 570 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 3: Just call them. Oh phase. 571 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: So they did in Roots, But I want to stop 572 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: tiptoeing around race. I mean, two bobs, that's they did 573 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: in Roots. My blackness is not a secret I have 574 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: to keep. I want to be able to publicly express 575 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: my honest admiration for being black outside of my little 576 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: black planet. I don't want to feel marginalized, like I 577 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: can't speak hard truths about myself. Having honest and challenging 578 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 2: conversations with people of another race will hopefully disrupt other 579 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 2: people's ignorance, but it will also help me. I need 580 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: to start with my mental tempertentiums. I want to get free. Well, 581 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: you in Americas, you ain't never gonna be free. But 582 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: I do feel you, you know what I mean? 583 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 4: Like that? 584 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I think. 585 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel like the lesson we've learned 586 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: over time is that to have success navigating spaces where 587 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,959 Speaker 2: there's any white people means you need to erase the 588 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: blackness that you have completely, you know, like, which is sad, 589 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 2: but that's what a lot of people have accepted, you know, 590 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: successful people, you know, like not not just uh uh not. 591 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 3: You know, not just not just like rappers and ship. 592 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 2: But a lot of people are like, hey, uh, I 593 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: can't I can't be but so black around these people 594 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: can't talk about black shit. But yeah, anyway, I thought 595 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: that was interesting. Let's see what else we got here. 596 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: Then TLC is trying to come out with a new 597 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: album years Uh yeah, you interested in getting a new 598 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: TLC album? They need a little health care. 599 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 3: It started a kickstarter. 600 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 4: I also must not gona be through a major label then. 601 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what the deal is. I 602 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: mean I don't I don't know if they can go 603 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: through that old label because remember that that that movie 604 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 2: that came out with was not too kind to their 605 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 2: previous management, right, so a lot. 606 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 4: Of people are like, we won't be working with y'all. 607 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: Ya. 608 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: Well, not just that, I don't you know what the 609 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: contract situation is, right, But they have the rights to Yeah, 610 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: sounds like they's some scrubs now though, yes, Oh well, 611 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: good luck to them. They they put out uh it 612 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: says at the more than a decade away. The surviving 613 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: members of t LC are back with to record a 614 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: final album that will be funded by a Kickstarter. 615 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: The R and B group consists of T Bars, Chilly. 616 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: And that's it because Left Eye is Gone, will follow 617 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 2: up its two thousand and two release three D two 618 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: thousand and two. 619 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: Goddamm told you. 620 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 4: I said twenty five, but you know I'm thirteen. 621 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: It's official. We are making a final album, final album. 622 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: I thought the last one was a final album. 623 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: Fan service. We are making that final. 624 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: Album, but we need you to make it happen on 625 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: At Kickstarter the band rope Man and just hours they 626 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: raised more than fifty thousand dollars. 627 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: Which is a third of their goal. 628 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: I believe that. 629 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: So people do want this album. 630 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 4: Somebody does. 631 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're eighty thousand now for eight hundred and fifty 632 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: nine backers. So people putting in some real money on us. 633 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 4: Yes, they all. I hope it's good. 634 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Pledge five dollars a more. They say, thank you so 635 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: much for backing them. You get a Kickstarter exclusive remix. 636 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: You get a behind the scenes updates about the album. 637 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: Plus you'll get the vote for which TLC track you 638 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: want remix for the final album. Uh pledge ten dollars 639 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: a more. You'll get a PDF of a handwritten list 640 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: of our top fifteen favorite songs of all time. Maybe 641 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 2: our list will offer you some inspiration, some inspo. Didn't 642 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: have time spell that out. 643 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 3: Hey, you know we'll include our Kickstarted exclusive remix. 644 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 2: Too, So you get a handwritten note. I don't know 645 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: about this. MP three pledge, no pdf, a handwritten note. 646 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: It's not a playlist. Oh just here's our fifteen songs 647 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: that we wrote down. Here's a PDF, which is like, 648 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 2: you know, a digital file document. 649 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, digital album. If you get fifteen dollars a more. 650 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: If you can't wait to hear our final album for 651 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: your pledge, you will get the digital download of the album. 652 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: Plus you'll get our list of favorite songs and kick 653 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: and the Kickstarted scoose the remix. 654 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: You might as well going up to that level. 655 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 2: Fan mail Forever pledged thirty five dollars a more. Remember 656 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: when we included a booklet and fan mail. Give a 657 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: shout out to thousands of fans. We're bringing it back 658 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: by including your name and our digital album booklet. 659 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: Just give thirty five dollars pletus. 660 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: You get the rest digital album Kickstarter for the remix 661 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 2: and favorite song list. 662 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: Fifty dollars. The more you get danced. 663 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 2: Even Michael Jackson had our TLC dances memorized. Now you 664 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: can learn our favorite TLC dance moves in our video tutorial. 665 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 3: And it is interesting. 666 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 5: You can mm hmm. 667 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 3: Seventy five dollars. You get a TLC scrap book. 668 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: Throwback Love because we love memories and put together a 669 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: digital book with old photos, private letters, hair make up tutorials, 670 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: and a few more TLC gyms just for you. 671 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 4: Oh that sweet. 672 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: One hundred dollars. You get a sign vinyl that's neat 673 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars. You get a voicemail by TLC. 674 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: Don't you meet tl I mean TC, I think so. 675 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, they will cord your voicemail for you, 676 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: but you get all the other stuff, you know what. 677 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm sound too excited. Fan calls TLC is on the line. 678 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will call you personally, can't wait to speak 679 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 2: with you. 680 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: They don't tell you how long they're gonna call though. 681 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 4: Right, they don't tell you if skype. 682 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: That's three hundred and fifty dollars or more to talk 683 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,959 Speaker 2: to TLC and uh, there's thirty then twelve people bought that. 684 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: There's thirteen of those left. Five hundred dollars more. 685 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 2: They give you autograph lyrics, get handwritten autograph lyrics for 686 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: unpretty with a special thank you note HM one thousand 687 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: dollars more TLC at the movies LA with T Bars. 688 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: You know we love the movies. Get your popcorn ready 689 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: because T bars will join you at the movies. 690 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: In LA, but you gotta get your ass. 691 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, afterwards, we'll talk about the movie life or whatever 692 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: else you want. I want to talk about them titties, 693 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: T bars. Security you said anything, I won't. One thousand 694 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 2: dollars TLC at the movies at L with Chili, So 695 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: you can. You can either go to Los Angeles or Tea. 696 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: Now how they're gonna or this our name in the 697 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: same city. But okay, you can go to LA with 698 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: T Bars or at. 699 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: L with Chili. 700 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 4: Oh, I guess he'll want be on the West coast, 701 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: won't be on the East coast. 702 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: Plage fifteen hundred dollars more. 703 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: You get North American VIP, get a ticket to one 704 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: of our upcommon concerts with a seat in one of 705 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: the first ten rows, one. 706 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 3: Of the first ten. I can't even get the first row. 707 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 4: You think I can't. I can't even get a backstage pass. 708 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: Damn Now they No, they said you can come out backstage. Yeah, 709 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 2: for a meet and greet with tlcself. 710 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: Better that much. 711 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 2: Traveling accommodations not included, of course, and it's limited to 712 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 2: of course the city's with the tour dates. Two thousand dollars. 713 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 2: You get the Chili workout. Ready to work your ass 714 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 2: off and have fun doing it for all our super fans. 715 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: Get your butts kicked by Chili in a rigorous workout class. 716 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: Wonder that's just what she does for a living. 717 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 4: Anyway, I don't know she's she's still picked for age. 718 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, spending day training, having lunch, slipping golden smoothies, and 719 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: listening to TLC's hits with self acclaimed fitness Girl of 720 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 2: the group, self acclaim hilarious listening party for two thousand, 721 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars. For five thousand dollars, you get the onesie, 722 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 2: one of their famous onesies and piece of TLC history. 723 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 3: The jumpers that they took pictures in for the albums. 724 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 2: Okay, you get a slummer party with Chili or slum 725 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 2: party with t Bobs for five thousand dollars, says, you 726 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: get some TLC pillow talk, and mom and dad won't 727 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: be there, so there's no need to keep the volume down. 728 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 2: Now that there's gotta be restrictions of that one ry. 729 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: You can't just be showing up at her house. 730 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna have to try to do background check 731 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 5: and all that type of shit. 732 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: And then for seventy five hundred dollars you get a 733 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 2: photo with TLC. 734 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: And a couple of people bought those. 735 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, because because you have people that are like 736 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 5: super fans, I happen not to. I enjoy the music, 737 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,919 Speaker 5: but I'm not a fan like that. 738 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, not our girls. I'm fell on some hard times, man. 739 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. Going to a Little Mama yep. 740 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, So TLC Kickstarter, good, good luck with that. 741 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: Ladies meet their goal. 742 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: It sounds like it. They say, you won't get any 743 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 3: of this ship till September. 744 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 2: By the way, uh five Sorority Sisters cast members were 745 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 2: expelled from Data Sigma Theta as v H one wipes 746 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: the website clean of the show. 747 00:36:53,760 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 4: Oh what, I don't understand. 748 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 3: They got kicked out the sorority. 749 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: Care Oh, they got kicked out of the sorority. 750 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 2: Okay, and then VH one deleted everything about the show 751 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: office website. 752 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 4: It was like you don't exist. 753 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: Five members of Delta Sigma Theta were expelled permanently from 754 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 2: the sorority for them for the participation in the Variety 755 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 2: VH one reality show set in Atlanta Sorority Sisters. 756 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna tell you right now, the problem I 757 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 5: have with this is that no organization is perfect, and 758 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 5: those people are everybody in the organization, but there are 759 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 5: probably other people that have done some of those things, 760 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 5: been loud and rowdy and not woman they like, but 761 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 5: they're still one of the organizations. 762 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 2: Yep, Lydia Mitchell and Premiaca Banks from Alabama State University. 763 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 4: They just wanted to use them as an example. 764 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 5: The basically say, bitches, y'all all be going on no 765 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 5: motherfucking shows, No more me Toya. 766 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,479 Speaker 2: She got kicked out. A dream got kicked out, Oh man, 767 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: even a dream. Shanea got kicked out. Their expulsion day 768 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: of January thirteen, coincided with the day VH one change 769 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: the schedule and dumped the show's final three episodes unceremoniously 770 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 2: this past Friday. It came a day after it was 771 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: reported that two others April McRae and Enjoy Hammond, was 772 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 2: suspended for eighteen months from the Akads. It might if 773 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 2: more than half the cast of nine has no longer 774 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: was no longer technically part of a sorority that more 775 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 2: or less negated the whole concept of the show. 776 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 3: And then they have a pole where you can guess 777 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: if it was fair. I'm not fair. 778 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair, but yeah, it says Sorority 779 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: Sisters was not an actual Atlanta based reality show the 780 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: air for a month on VH one. 781 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh, they making a joke. 782 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 2: They took the jiff of Will Smith and Men on 783 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: Black flashing you so you forget about it. 784 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 3: Ah VH one provides. 785 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: A list of shows on as web site passed the present. 786 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 2: Here the list links to pages about current shows so 787 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: this as Basketball Wise and TI and Tiny and those 788 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 2: long gone such as Scott Bios forty five and Single 789 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: from two thousand and eight and Jessica Simpson's Price of 790 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: Beauty from twenty and ten. 791 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 3: But already Sorority Sisters has been wiped off the site. 792 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 4: And I have a question. 793 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 5: What about people that have done things and been on 794 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 5: these shows that are part of organizations that don't mention it. 795 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 5: They're cool, I guess some because they don't publicly say 796 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 5: that they're part of these organizations. Yeah, but their behavior 797 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 5: is the same, right, Okay, that's all. I'm okay, No, no, 798 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 5: I know, I disagree with this. 799 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 2: This happened in less than four days at the VH 800 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: one quietly aired the last three episodes of Sorority Sisters 801 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: last Friday night, in a move that clearly indicated the 802 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 2: network's desire to kill it in the most innocuous way possible. 803 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: Final episode aired at eleven ten pm and then just 804 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: after midnight, with no repeats and no second season forecoming. Wow. 805 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: The very aggressive boycott campaign target VH one's advertisers. It 806 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: was apparently very effective, because the show's ratings were certainly 807 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 2: strong enough to keep the show. 808 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 3: Alive in and of itself. 809 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, these power in numbers, there's power in numbers. Vicky 810 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 2: Gray says that pr liaison for the boycott group D 811 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 2: nine for Change. It was organized, it was structured. People 812 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: came from all around the world. VH one is not 813 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,839 Speaker 2: comment on expressions and suspensions. 814 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, like I said, the problem that I have is 815 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 5: that all of a sudden, we have morals, we have 816 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: standards when it comes to this show. But there's other 817 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: shows where people do all kind of heinous bullshit and 818 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 5: nobody's up protest to get up in arms and saying 819 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 5: that talking bad. A lot of people an't watching. Now 820 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 5: there are people, but these people protest everything. You know, 821 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 5: you have some people there against all this, but you 822 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 5: know a lot of these people that protest specifically for this, 823 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 5: you don't see them protesting all these other shows. 824 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: They have the same standards, same fort and all this stuff. 825 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 5: It's okay for you to watch that, but when it's 826 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 5: something that hit holds for you all of a sudden, 827 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 5: it's a problem. 828 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 4: That's the issue. 829 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 5: Just let the show be a show, because that's all 830 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 5: it is to most people. It's just a regular show 831 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 5: to most people. And if it's good and to stay around. 832 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 5: If it's not, it won't. And also the thing about it, 833 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 5: a lot of people that have problems with it continue 834 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 5: to watch it, which kept. 835 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 4: The ratings high. They don't give a fuck about it. 836 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 5: If you're mad and an'try and it's different all they 837 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 5: knows them numbers said this show was good. 838 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's just funny because these are historically you know, 839 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: black organizations or whatever, and they weren't mad at other 840 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:37,439 Speaker 2: black shit. 841 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 4: Correct. 842 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 2: It was like, not until something happened with their their sororities, 843 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 2: they got mad. And the thing that's very weird about 844 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 2: that is, as someone who watched the show, these women 845 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 2: weren't that bad. I don't understand what was so bad 846 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: about them. What was the thing that they did that 847 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: was so upsetting. They didn't get in physical altercations, none 848 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: of them got you know, too drunk or anything. 849 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 3: None of them committed any. 850 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 4: Crime compared to some of the other stuff. 851 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't even think any of fucked like it was 852 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: to me the show was boring. 853 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 3: If anything. 854 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: I was just like the show not good. I don't 855 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 2: want to watch it even without a controversy. I got 856 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 2: tired of watching the show because it just was it 857 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 2: was kind of boring. They didn't do anything but to 858 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, to expel these people for life. 859 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: It just seems like a such an overreach. 860 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 5: You know, right, and and and I think that the 861 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 5: problem that I have with it, Like I said, just 862 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 5: just where where do you draw these lines? And these 863 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 5: people paid to be a part of these organizations, and 864 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 5: it's time and money and all this other stuff, and 865 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 5: for you just to turn around and be like, you 866 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 5: know what, all them just dedication, don't mean nothing, Just 867 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 5: take it away. 868 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: M m yeah, just seeing so such a reactionary just 869 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 2: it's almost like they were just mad that they were 870 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: with the rest of the negroes that you know on 871 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 2: v H one, like how dare you put us out there? 872 00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:58,959 Speaker 4: Right? 873 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 5: And and and that's I guess to me that's a problem. 874 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 5: And being older, I've actually met more people in Greek 875 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 5: fraternities and sororities than I did when I was younger. 876 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 5: And it's one of those things. Most of them make 877 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 5: their beautiful and wonderful people, most of most of them 878 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 5: are reasonable. It's just one of those these things that 879 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 5: it just I don't know, it just frustrates me when 880 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 5: people A lot of is is we think we're better 881 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 5: than y'all mentality which people don't want to get down to. 882 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,439 Speaker 5: We think we better than y'all, How dare you put 883 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 5: us out there? How dare you talk about us? How 884 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 5: dare you make us look bad? How dare you know 885 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 5: we are the butt of the jokes? How dare you 886 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 5: do this with us being part of these organizations? But 887 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 5: you know what, these organizations are made of normal motherfucking people. 888 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 4: They're made of normal people. 889 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 2: And I mean, I know people that are members that 890 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: were like, I didn't see a problem with this show. 891 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 3: I don't know why people are. 892 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know why the organization is reacting this way, 893 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's not even just 894 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 2: uh oh, we don't get it because we're not in it, 895 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: like seems pretty cut and dry. 896 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 3: It's respectability politics. 897 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 2: It's you know, one of the things that that it's 898 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: kind of a crusiade that this show is against the 899 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: idea of someone doing something makes everybody look bad. Meanwhile, 900 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 2: like I said, the show wasn't bad, Like, what was 901 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 2: the thing that these ladies did that was so disrespectful 902 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 2: to the sorority? Like, you know, I just didn't see 903 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: it like they like even when they got like like 904 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: like I said, it kind of made the show boring 905 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 2: because even when they got upset with each other. 906 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: They very rarely said anything that would make you go oh. 907 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,359 Speaker 2: It felt like they had to hold their punches because 908 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 2: they were like, I don't want to get kicked out. 909 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to you know, say anything or do 910 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: anything too messed up. You know, this isn't like people 911 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,879 Speaker 2: shitting on the stairs like flavor flave, like flavor of love. 912 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 2: You know, this wasn't people you know, getting carried upstairs 913 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 2: the fuck like you know, had Johnson on Basketball wives. 914 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 2: You know, this wasn't you know. I don't know what 915 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 2: they did that was fucked up, man, I don't know. 916 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 2: Soon I gotta explain. 917 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 5: To me, right because as I'm I don't know and 918 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 5: I'm not a part of it. But I just I 919 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 5: just disagree with with them saying just stripping them of 920 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 5: everything just to make a point. I really think that 921 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 5: they used them as an example of don't y'all be 922 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 5: signed up for them? 923 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 4: A bullshit, don't y'all be be doing those shows? 924 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,279 Speaker 5: If you do take yourways out there, you better not 925 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 5: saying motherfucker thought about I got that organization? 926 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 2: I guess for me, like I can see them being 927 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 2: upset with the idea of the thing that you're bringing 928 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: to this show is that you're in our organization. Like 929 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 2: I could kind of understand, but then I would be 930 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: more like until you do something fucked up, I'm okay 931 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: with that cause like if you found out, I don't know, 932 00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 2: Candy on Real Housewives was in a sorority, I wouldn't 933 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 2: be like what the fuck, Like she gotta get kicked 934 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 2: out now, you know, like what they kick out people 935 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 2: from other reality shows that happen to be in the sororities. 936 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: Like I just wonder. 937 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 4: I don't know, that's my question. 938 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: Maybe they would. I don't know. 939 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 5: Because they're not representing or they don't speak about it, 940 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 5: or they don't say nothing about it. 941 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 4: They're cool with that. 942 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 5: It's just for the fact that they don't want quote 943 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 5: unquote people to associate you with their brand. 944 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, man, I just like I said, 945 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 2: when I watched maybe four episodes and I just didn't 946 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 2: even see like what the thing was, Like, maybe they 947 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:41,480 Speaker 2: And the thing. 948 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 3: Is, if you watch it, they don't represent the organization. 949 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: Like they don't wear it, they don't wear any paraphernalia. 950 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 2: The only time that it comes up is they'll be 951 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 2: like in a confessional, they'll be like, well, you know, Delta's, 952 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 2: we believe in stepping out and being fly whenever we 953 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 2: do lead out. So it's not like it's not like 954 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 2: they say, like Delta's, We don't real motherfucking bitches were 955 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 2: about to kill these motherfuckers tonight. I'm praying up the 956 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 2: whole club like, it's nothing like that. I think people 957 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 2: just got scared of just the fact they were on TV, right, 958 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 2: you know what, It's like, what are y'all gonna do? 959 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 4: You know? 960 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 2: And like I said, and I understand the trepidation because 961 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 2: of normally this kind of shit does typically have it's 962 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 2: way more ratchet than this, but the show was not 963 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,760 Speaker 2: that ratchet. 964 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 4: It was compared to other shit. 965 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 2: Now I'm surprised they got Here's what's funny. I'm not 966 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: even I shouldn't say surprised. I believe it got good 967 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: ratings because people got mad. It wasn't a good show 968 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 2: on this own. If no one had been upset about it, 969 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 2: the show doesn't even fucking get ratings. It's canceled in 970 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,959 Speaker 2: a season because nobody would have watched eight to nine 971 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 2: Women Act Civil which is basically what it was. It 972 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 2: was a bunch of like, you know what, I understand 973 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: the choke man ain't got a job or some shit 974 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 2: like that, and it's like, well, you know, I worked 975 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 2: for myself and I own my own business, and it's 976 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 2: really none of your business view has a job or not. Oh, 977 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 2: so you're trying to you're trying to get an attitude 978 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 2: with me. No, you're trying to get an attitude of me. No, 979 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get an attitude, but you're trying 980 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 2: to get att to me. No, I'm not trying to 981 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 2: get an attitude with you trying to get att to me. 982 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 6: No. 983 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 3: Cool, Well I guess we're cool. Yeah, we cooled. Then cool, 984 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 3: you want to go back to this after the studio 985 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 3: and dance? 986 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 2: Like it was really like, I'm serious, that was the 987 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 2: level of altercation they had. Oh you have a boutique 988 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 2: and I have a fashion boutique and yours is right 989 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 2: next door to mine, and you didn't even come by 990 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 2: and let me know you were doing that. Well, that's 991 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 2: because I'm a delta. You're a AKA. Oh you a AKA, 992 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 2: I'm a delta. 993 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 8: All. 994 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 9: Like. 995 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't like, like I said, I've seen like physical fights. 996 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 2: I've seen people throw wine bottles at people's heads to 997 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,479 Speaker 2: I've seen like the kind of ship that I think 998 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 2: would make would be reprehensible to a organization I've seen 999 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: on other shows that just it didn't happen on this show. 1000 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 5: I don't know, man of an organization, But y'all don't 1001 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 5: see them banning her Oh. 1002 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 3: Ky Michelle's were Oh yeah, I don't know. 1003 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 2: Like like I said, it must be just the fact 1004 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: that it was named Sorority Sisters and then they just 1005 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: got cause it was the only claim to faint they had. 1006 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 2: You know, they really didn't have much talent, and they 1007 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 2: weren't very interesting. It has to just be like the 1008 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 2: only thing they could see coming up that was embarrassment. 1009 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 2: Even without watching the show, without giving those girls a chance, 1010 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 2: who knows, you know, honestly, it's funny because maybe it 1011 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,720 Speaker 2: would have helped recruit people if because like I said, 1012 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: the girls didn't seem to be all ratchet and shit 1013 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: like the other shows that I watched, But apparently they decided, nah, 1014 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,399 Speaker 2: fuck that this is a this is too much for us. 1015 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 1016 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 2: I guess if they were out there just calling each 1017 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,839 Speaker 2: other bitches and in words and hoes and fighting and shit. 1018 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 3: I would definitely understand, but I don't know. I just didn't. 1019 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 3: I didn't see it that way. 1020 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 2: It seemed like people just wanted to be upset about 1021 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 2: that joint and it just I don't know, it just 1022 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,680 Speaker 2: doesn't There's so many shows that, you know, I guess, 1023 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 2: do worse under different names, and it's no one's gonna 1024 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 2: try to get that taken off the air. 1025 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 3: So it just felt like an overreach. 1026 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 2: But whenever it's gone, I show wasn't that good anyway, 1027 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: I won't miss it. May though at Love and Hip 1028 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,560 Speaker 2: Hop Charlotte or some shit. 1029 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said that, that's that's the problem that 1030 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 5: I have. But you don't see Kam to shp talking 1031 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 5: about it and speaking about it, so it don't matter 1032 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 5: what she does. 1033 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 4: So that's why I think they draw the line. 1034 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 5: And I think for a lot of people, the whole 1035 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 5: the whole thing was the fact that it was. 1036 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 4: Called Sorority Sisters. Yeah, was the issue for a lot 1037 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 4: of people from the beginning. 1038 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't a Mona Scott production. 1039 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 2: I saw someone asking in the chat it wasn't, which 1040 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,799 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons it wasn't very good. In 1041 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 2: my opinion, Mona would have had them acting ratchet. Someone 1042 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 2: gonna actually do some cocaine. Now, come on, I ain't 1043 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: Nobody got slapped in five minutes and the show about 1044 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 2: the end. 1045 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 3: Let's go h. 1046 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 2: Fox News host Andrea Tantos said Monday that President Barack 1047 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 2: Obama had contributed to making race relations worse than any 1048 00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: time in US history, but she gave him credit for 1049 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 2: going to school and marrying the mother of his children. 1050 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: President has said that race relations are actually better now 1051 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: than when he came into office. But when you look 1052 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: at this pulling and there's wider pulling than this, because 1053 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: Rasmussen also took a look at this, it's not just 1054 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: one Gallup poll, but there's wider pulling on where people 1055 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: really feel where race relations is. 1056 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 10: What are your. 1057 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 11: Thoughts, well, I think, look, the election of Barack Obama 1058 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 11: was a huge moment for the African American community, and 1059 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 11: to his credit, whether for all of America, whether you 1060 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 11: agree with right, whether you agree with what President Obama 1061 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 11: believes or not, you have to admit he has done 1062 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 11: a lot of good. He gives a very aspirational goal 1063 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 11: I think for a lot of young black men, and 1064 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 11: he's I think a terrific role model at least as 1065 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 11: a father to and a good husband. I know. People 1066 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 11: don't want to hear that David shaking his head, but yeah, 1067 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 11: I got to give him credit there. What I do 1068 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 11: will not give him credit for is he said that 1069 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 11: he was going to heal this country. 1070 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 3: Why did the other dude? Why was the guy shaking 1071 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 3: her his head at what she said that at that point? 1072 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 3: What does she say? That was so fucking a physic. 1073 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 11: Barack Obama was a huge moment for the African American community. 1074 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 4: And to his credit, whether you for all. 1075 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 11: Whether you agree with right, whether you agree with what 1076 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 11: President Obama believes or not, you have to admit he 1077 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,479 Speaker 11: has done a lot of good. He gives a very 1078 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 11: aspirational goal I think for a lot of young black men, 1079 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 11: and he's I think a terrific role model at least 1080 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,720 Speaker 11: as a father to and a good husband. 1081 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 3: I know, because you know y'all need to raise y'all 1082 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 3: goddamn kids niggers. 1083 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 11: Anyway, people don't want to hear that David shaking his head, 1084 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 11: but yeah, I got to give him credit there. 1085 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 3: Now, why the fuck? But honestly, what does she say 1086 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 3: at that moment? 1087 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 2: Because you know, he's not shaking his head like us, like, bitch, 1088 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 2: the fuck you talking about Like he's shaking his head 1089 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 2: like why are you giving him credit for anything? 1090 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: Oh? 1091 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they on net fucked the President bandwagon. 1092 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,279 Speaker 11: What I do will not give him credit for is 1093 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 11: he said that he was gonna heal this country, and 1094 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 11: I think a lot of people expected something different. I 1095 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 11: didn't because I read all his books and knew where 1096 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 11: he was gonna go and divide the country, and that's 1097 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 11: how he's advanced his career. I think race relations are 1098 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,439 Speaker 11: worse than they. 1099 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,399 Speaker 3: Ever When did he say he was going to heal 1100 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 3: the country of racism? 1101 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 4: He never said that. 1102 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't remember that campaign. 1103 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 6: No, but people, I think the same way that people 1104 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 6: hear uh filters when people bring up black issues, the 1105 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 6: same way a lot of black people and white people 1106 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 6: here when the president was running, they really thought he 1107 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 6: was like. 1108 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna racism is dead. We gonna be post racing 1109 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,959 Speaker 5: when y'all vote me in the office. He never said 1110 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 5: that shit, y'all. He never said that shit. 1111 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,839 Speaker 11: Or has been. And to Melissa's point, if you look 1112 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 11: at the facts and the numbers, more people are on 1113 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 11: food stamps more people are dependent on the government. Don't 1114 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,879 Speaker 11: take my words. Look at the Congressional Black Caucus. They 1115 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 11: have stood up numerous times and said, mister President. 1116 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 8: But. 1117 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 5: A lot of the ship that Republicans are passing not 1118 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 5: killing jobs. 1119 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 2: And cutting benefits like foods damps. Right, by the way, 1120 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 2: if your own foodstamps, what does that have to do? 1121 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 3: Would be rightually divided though. 1122 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 5: Nothing because they assumed it blacks own food stamps. I 1123 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 5: don't know when there's white people don't foodstamps because you're 1124 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 5: more of the population. 1125 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 4: But it's never promoted like that. It's always motivate these 1126 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 4: niggas on foodstamps. 1127 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the correlation? 1128 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 8: Now? 1129 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 11: And he promised us a lot of things and you've 1130 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 11: forgotten us. So I do think that he promised to 1131 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 11: focus on those groups and he has left wom behind. 1132 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 3: I've got to disagree with Andreo. 1133 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 12: We put too much hope in one man or any 1134 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 12: one figure, and that is why we have people who 1135 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 12: can misuse that ability or use political power to claim 1136 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 12: that we are institutionally racist. Go after when you go. 1137 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 3: Out to claim that we are institutionally. 1138 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 12: Okay after Hollywood? Why because one figure won't change it. 1139 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,759 Speaker 3: But America. 1140 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 11: He has changed, David, he has He is one He's 1141 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 11: not just one figure. He's the president of the United States. 1142 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: By the way, this is funny. They're agreeing, but somehow 1143 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 2: they're arguing. He's saying he's he's made everything worse, and 1144 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: she say, made everything worse. 1145 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 4: We shouldn't for the worst. But you do have to 1146 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 4: give him credit. 1147 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 11: I mean, going to college, marrying, raising two good daughters, 1148 00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 11: well behaved daughters. 1149 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you've got to give him credit. 1150 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 2: There fly into a nation because he's so he's black, 1151 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,719 Speaker 2: so those days are so out. 1152 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,480 Speaker 5: He's supposed to be a drug dealer, you know, a 1153 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 5: good for nothing, dead have forty five baby mamas, beat 1154 00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 5: your wife, be a drunk beyond drugs, be on welfare, 1155 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 5: drive a Cadillac, right yeah, okay. 1156 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,640 Speaker 12: Using divisive tactics not a good part of that figure. 1157 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 3: That's what I said. 1158 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 11: That's what that's the downside. 1159 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 4: That's the politics. 1160 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 3: That's the politics. America is better than all of this. 1161 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 3: It's so amazing because the inherent racism and that discussion. 1162 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 3: It's just like, how could anyone miss it? You know 1163 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,359 Speaker 3: what I mean? 1164 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 2: It is essentially the same Black people are inferior they 1165 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 2: won't raise their kids. You're not just talking about any 1166 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: black person. You're talking about a Harvard educated, fucking like lawyer. 1167 00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 2: And you're going, well, thank god he's stuck around and 1168 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: raise those kids. 1169 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:42,839 Speaker 3: And am I right? 1170 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,240 Speaker 2: So difficult when you're black, because you know those black people, 1171 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: they are allergic to children and responsibilities. They are allergiclying 1172 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,760 Speaker 2: the work, getting married and having kids. Yeah, it doesn't 1173 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,360 Speaker 2: matter that he went to this universe. He overcame the 1174 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 2: odds everybody. 1175 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 4: Yes, not the thing. 1176 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 5: Plain to people, it doesn't matter what you accomplish, or 1177 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,959 Speaker 5: how many degrees, how many doctorate you have, no matter 1178 00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 5: no sum kum lade whatever you graduate. To a lot 1179 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 5: of people, when they look at you, they don't give 1180 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 5: two ships about any of that. So at the end 1181 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 5: of the day, you might as well just accept it. 1182 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 5: There's nothing that you can do to change the way 1183 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 5: somebody views you based off of the color of your 1184 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 5: motherfucking skin. 1185 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 2: I wish somebody would tell Anthony Mackie that Anthony Mackie, 1186 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: uh basically did a. 1187 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 3: Niggas need to cut their hair interview? 1188 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 2: You know another guy that I like, you know, enjoyed 1189 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: them in uh, Captain America. But he's Uh, he released 1190 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 2: a song. I mean he was in a movie. No, 1191 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Cam, I messed up. 1192 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:57,240 Speaker 4: I want to hear this. 1193 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 3: No, he was in a movie called Black or White. 1194 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 3: M A starts. 1195 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 2: He starts alongside Octavia Spencer and Kevin Costner. 1196 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:09,600 Speaker 6: Uh. 1197 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 2: The film tells the story of a white grandfather who 1198 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 2: has left to raise his biracial granddaughter after his great 1199 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 2: daughter dies get during childbirth. In an interview with the 1200 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 2: Grill dot Com, Mackie discussed some of the themes within 1201 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,880 Speaker 2: Black or White and gave his thoughts on racially charged 1202 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 2: stories that have recently dominated the news. 1203 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 3: Oh. I hate when people have bad audio interviews. I'm 1204 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 3: not gonna play that. But uh yeah, so, he said. 1205 00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 6: Uh. 1206 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: Mackie believes the oscars are being discriminatory, but that they 1207 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 2: are simply aren't being discriminatory. 1208 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 1209 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 2: He believes they aren't being discriminatory. They are simply rewarding 1210 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 2: the best the industry has to offer this year. If 1211 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 2: you look at the movies and the actors that are nominated, 1212 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 2: they all gave damn good performances. Mackie said, me specifically, 1213 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 2: if that's something I want, I have to step my game. 1214 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,960 Speaker 3: Up, I have to do better movies that I have 1215 00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 3: to act better. 1216 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 2: Maki continued by saying that African American actors are disadvantaged 1217 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 2: when it comes to receiving more Oscar worthy roles because 1218 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 2: Hollywood believes that there's no market overseas for black actors. 1219 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 2: They say that about Denzel Washington, they say that they 1220 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: have no foreign value. The Captain American star said, if 1221 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,160 Speaker 2: we've not if we're not financing and doing our own stories, 1222 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: we can't expect to see ourselves come Award season. Turn 1223 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,479 Speaker 2: it to the topic of recent nationwide protests against racial 1224 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: profile and Mackie offered a unique perspective, Like my nephew 1225 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 2: wanted to grow dreadlocks. I'm like, fine, I'll sit you down. 1226 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 2: I'll watch the first forty eight with you. At everybody 1227 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 2: you see on that show that's doing something wrong, they're 1228 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: black dudes with dreadlocks. So do you want to be 1229 00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 2: seen as part of the problem or do you want 1230 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 2: to be an individual. Let's just say you have locks 1231 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 2: and you walking down the street, police pull you over 1232 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 2: and say you fit the description of somebody. 1233 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,880 Speaker 3: You start yelling and all you're with the cops. 1234 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: Next thing you know, you pressed up against the wall 1235 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 2: going to jail something you're not even involved in because 1236 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 2: you look like somebody and you know how. 1237 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 3: To handle yourself. You don't know how to handle yourself. 1238 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Respectability politics, man, it's dangerous drug. 1239 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 3: People get addicted to it. I know, Karen, that's that's 1240 01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,920 Speaker 3: the new Captain America. 1241 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 5: And I rolled my eyes at all that bullshit because 1242 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 5: I don't care what you're talking about. 1243 01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, just like the person. 1244 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 5: With the dreads could be smacked up against that wall, 1245 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 5: your black ass can also. 1246 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: Yes, Also this thing where like people just I don't 1247 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,280 Speaker 2: know if it's because people are being fortunate that they 1248 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: feel like this is a confirmation that this information is correct. 1249 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 3: But it's brother's with nice cuts in jail. 1250 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 4: To get arrested too. 1251 01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,880 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, it's. 1252 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Brother's pulled over that they got on a suit going 1253 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: to work, and like you know that there's footage of 1254 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,360 Speaker 2: civil rights marches and suits getting fucked up by dogs 1255 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 2: and hoses. Like, correct, you can't out dress being black, man, No, 1256 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 2: just can't. I know, you know, I know that some 1257 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 2: people are gonna be fortunate and some people are gonna 1258 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 2: have a little less rain falling their lives than others. 1259 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 2: But at no point does that excuse systematic racism. Man, 1260 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,479 Speaker 2: you know your kids should be able to grow dread locks. 1261 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 2: If your kid wants to grow dread locks, and he 1262 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't have to change, society should change if he's not 1263 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 2: a criminal. 1264 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:38,480 Speaker 3: He's not a criminal. 1265 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 2: You didn't say grow dread locks and carry a gun 1266 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:42,479 Speaker 2: down the street. 1267 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 3: You can say you know or you know that not 1268 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,959 Speaker 3: that that's even a crime in a lot of states. 1269 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, Like, you didn't say 1270 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: grow dreadlocks and you know, have a shirt on it 1271 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 2: says I got a lot of. 1272 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Weed on me. I'm selling it like he just grew 1273 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 3: dread lights. He's not a fucking criminal. 1274 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 5: Right, And this goes to the article you said before 1275 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 5: about denying your blackness and who you are, And it's 1276 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 5: just one of those things where it just frustrates me 1277 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 5: because it's one of those things where as in black 1278 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 5: male you always got to be clean cut, says who 1279 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 5: you know, if you want. 1280 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 4: To grow an afro out male or female, it becomes 1281 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 4: a problem. 1282 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 5: Why because you go on your hair naturally, if you 1283 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 5: want to grow dress, if you want to go twists, 1284 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 5: if you want to go locks all of a sudden. 1285 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 5: It's a problem because it quote unquotes makes people feel 1286 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 5: uncomfortable or you quote unquote or a target. It doesn't 1287 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 5: matter how your hair is your hair and the fucking 1288 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 5: afro you got it perm to the side. 1289 01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 4: Your black ass is gonna get arrested if the police 1290 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,720 Speaker 4: is decide they want to profile you and today is 1291 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,840 Speaker 4: your day. I'm sorry. 1292 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1293 01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 2: And also to say, the Academy of Awards the best 1294 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,280 Speaker 2: performances every year. 1295 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 3: We all know that sportshit. No, sometimes they make political statements, 1296 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 3: sometimes they choose not to. But one of the. 1297 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 2: Things that is your There's plenty of people that didn't 1298 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,600 Speaker 2: even get nominated or win for their best performance, so 1299 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: then they win later on some like make up call shit, 1300 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: and we see it happen all the time. 1301 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 3: So let's stop with the bullshit. 1302 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 2: Malcolm X is a much better performance for Denzel Washington 1303 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,680 Speaker 2: than Alonzo in Training Day. Correct, But but he won 1304 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 2: for Alonzo mostly because he didn't win from Alcolm you know. 1305 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,600 Speaker 2: So it says apparently Liam Neeson got in some trouble 1306 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 2: with the gun industry. 1307 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 9: Oh h he uh. 1308 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,440 Speaker 2: He told a Dubai publication that the high number of 1309 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 2: firearms owned by Americans was a disgrace. Every week now 1310 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 2: we're picking up a newspaper and seeing yet another few 1311 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 2: kids have been killed in schools. In response, Pair of 1312 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 2: USA the gun supply for his recent Taking three film 1313 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: has film while we're calling those that now anyway, uh 1314 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Taking three had fired back said it would refuse to 1315 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 2: work on future projects with the star. Paar of USA 1316 01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 2: regrets his decision to provide firearms for use in the 1317 01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 2: film Taking Three, reads a message posted on the company's 1318 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Facebook page. 1319 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,160 Speaker 3: While the film. 1320 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 2: Itself is entertaining, comments made by its Irish born star 1321 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: during press junkens reflect the cultural and factual ignorance that 1322 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 2: undermines support of the Second Amendment and American liberties. We 1323 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 2: will no longer provide firearms for use in film starring 1324 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 2: Liam Neeson and ask that our friends and partners in 1325 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 2: Hollywood refrained from associating our brand and products with his projects. Further, 1326 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,960 Speaker 2: we encourage our partners and friends in the firearm industry 1327 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 2: to do the same. Nisan, who has enjoyed a career 1328 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 2: resurgeon in recent years with his reliance on shoot them 1329 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Up actioners, plays a hit man and run all night, 1330 01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 2: hitting theaters March thirteen. Taking three has grossed one hundred 1331 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,919 Speaker 2: and sixty three million dollars worldwide thus far. 1332 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 3: Crazy. 1333 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, then people they wonder why nobody supports him because 1334 01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 5: he just said, Hey, there's a lot of motherfucking girls 1335 01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 5: out here, kids dying. 1336 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 4: What tay by my guys, all I say is kids 1337 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 4: is dying. Fuck them kids. It's basically what y'all saying 1338 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 4: them kids. 1339 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, how the NYPD turn their backs on 1340 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 2: the mayor and shit. 1341 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 3: It was just like, I'm so mad at you even 1342 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 3: bringing this ship up? 1343 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 5: Right, how dare you say anything about my guns? I 1344 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 5: got to write to care of my guns. You taking 1345 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 5: my rights? Ain't nobody said, motherfucker think about your goddamn rights. 1346 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Star, stage and screen Jessica Chastain said Tuesday she has 1347 01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 2: received a barrage of abuse of following her recent speech 1348 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,120 Speaker 2: urging for more diversity in Hollywood. 1349 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 4: I believe that. 1350 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just sad, that's true. 1351 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 2: You can't even discuss like that's it's have a conversation 1352 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 2: on rates. You can't even fucking disgust it but discuss it, 1353 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 2: because you're gonna end up with people that are like, 1354 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,320 Speaker 2: fuck you, you know, like I'm gonna kill you, bitch, 1355 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 2: like because you said other people need to be included, right, 1356 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 2: you said we should diversify. But meanwhile people are saying that, 1357 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, the wars On don't have any you know, 1358 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 2: symbolism beyond just it's the best ten films, it's the 1359 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 2: best five directors as judged by who has decided by who. 1360 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna act like it doesn't matter. We're gonna act 1361 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 2: like they haven't made statements in the past. Here's our 1362 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:19,479 Speaker 2: speech at the Critics Choice Awards where she talked about 1363 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 2: diversity or whatnot. 1364 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 13: I am thrilled to present the first ever Critics Choice 1365 01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:27,440 Speaker 13: MVP Award to Jessica Chastain. 1366 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 3: MVP MVP MVP. 1367 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 8: Okay, thank you so much to the Broadcast Film Critics 1368 01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,520 Speaker 8: Association for choosing me as the MVP for twenty fourteen. 1369 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 8: I googled MVP because I've never been a jock, and 1370 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,440 Speaker 8: the definition that I love was a player who is 1371 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:05,440 Speaker 8: valuable to their team, and I love the wording of 1372 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:10,280 Speaker 8: that being part of a team. Sometimes we actors are 1373 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 8: the ones that get heaped with praise, and there are 1374 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:19,560 Speaker 8: so many other people that are equally deserving I was 1375 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 8: able to prep, shoot, and promote all four films this 1376 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,040 Speaker 8: year because of the brilliant team I work with, Paul Nelson, 1377 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 8: Hilda quee Lely, Jack Wigham, Steve Warren, Nicole Perna, and 1378 01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 8: Elise Siegel. 1379 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:34,520 Speaker 4: I love you, guys. Thank you. 1380 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 8: To my directors this year, Christopher Nolan, leave Olman, Ned Benson, 1381 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,080 Speaker 8: and jac Schandor. They all have taught me so much 1382 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 8: about what it is to be an artist, and each 1383 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 8: character in their films was different because of their unique 1384 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 8: points of views. I'm so grateful to be working in 1385 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 8: an industry that includes them. The films I was in 1386 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 8: this year included extraordinary actors and crew members, and they 1387 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 8: worked so insanely hard each and every day. They did 1388 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,720 Speaker 8: it for more than a paycheck. They did it because 1389 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 8: it meant something to them, and they are all equally. 1390 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 3: Deserving of this award. 1391 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 4: Today today's Martin Luther. 1392 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 8: King Junior's birthday, So it got me thinking about our 1393 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 8: need to build the strength of diversity in our industry 1394 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:38,400 Speaker 8: and to stand together against homophobic, sexist, misogynistic, anti Semitic, 1395 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,080 Speaker 8: and racist agendas. 1396 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:46,640 Speaker 3: I'm an optimist and I can't help but. 1397 01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,320 Speaker 8: Feeling hope, but feel hopeful about the future of film, 1398 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 8: especially looking at all these beautiful people in this room. 1399 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:55,840 Speaker 3: Martin Luther King Jr. 1400 01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 8: Said, our lives begin to end the day we come 1401 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 8: silent about things that matter. 1402 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 4: And I would like to encourage everyone. 1403 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 8: In this room to please speak up. 1404 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 3: Thank you, and you see. 1405 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,719 Speaker 2: Oprah said, wow, she got done, like this white woman's 1406 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 2: career is over. 1407 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 4: Like she looked at right and small. But are you 1408 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 4: sure you're sure you want to say that? 1409 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,400 Speaker 2: You sure you know they're gonna be troubling you girl, 1410 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 2: But if you want to do that, go ahead, So 1411 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 2: she said, I've had really terrible people who are racist 1412 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 2: comment on the speech and say really terrible things. I'm 1413 01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 2: understanding that some people in this world how much hate 1414 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 2: they can have. However, she said, she has also been 1415 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,879 Speaker 2: cheered by the amount of support from Hollywood insiders, including 1416 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 2: film producers and stars, who echo her beliefs on the 1417 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 2: lack of diversity within the industry. You always have to 1418 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,440 Speaker 2: be careful with this kind of shit because as progressive 1419 01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 2: as like the Academy, like in Hollywood it is labeled 1420 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 2: to be, at the end of the day, you're still 1421 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:11,000 Speaker 2: asking someone to move themselves aside and pick someone else 1422 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 2: to make the decision. Diversity isn't about that was one 1423 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,920 Speaker 2: of the things I really want to get across. Diversity 1424 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 2: isn't about the choices of who wins an award. It's 1425 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:28,120 Speaker 2: really not. Diversity is about who gets to the side 1426 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,479 Speaker 2: who wins the award. 1427 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 3: Correct, Like that's really diversity. 1428 01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 2: And that's why you can't just breathe past this Aba 1429 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 2: Duverne snub shit, because it does matter. I'm not one 1430 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 2: of those people that says we need to appease the 1431 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 2: white gays. 1432 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm definitely not shit you already. 1433 01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:46,519 Speaker 2: No, I'm not one who feels we need to be 1434 01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,200 Speaker 2: validated by white people correct in any shapeway or form 1435 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 2: when it comes to our art. But what I am 1436 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 2: saying is we spend our money at the movies, we 1437 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:56,919 Speaker 2: play these roles. 1438 01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,960 Speaker 3: We also like deserve a seat at the table. 1439 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 2: Like you can't say, sure, you guys can be part 1440 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 2: of the process up until it's time to decide who 1441 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 2: gets recognized. That that doesn't work for me, and it 1442 01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 2: doesn't work for anybody, And it doesn't mean and I'm 1443 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 2: not just speaking for black people, all people that are 1444 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 2: out of the loop, you know what I mean. And 1445 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 2: the problem is somebody gotta sit aside or someone got 1446 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,599 Speaker 2: to open up the table, so they have less power 1447 01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 2: than they have at this moment, and. 1448 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 3: That's hard for people to do. 1449 01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Even the most well meaning person doesn't want to think 1450 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 2: of themselves as part of the problem. So it's like, hey, 1451 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 2: yes we're ninety three percent white, Yes we're seventy percent mail, 1452 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 2: but we couldn't possibly say what, like who's gonna step down? 1453 01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 2: If I'm supposed to step down, I'm supposed. 1454 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 3: To say, someone take my seat. 1455 01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, true, someone gotta give up 1456 01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 2: their seats, and it's probably you. 1457 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 4: And something else. 1458 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,320 Speaker 5: I didn't know they didn't have an age limit because 1459 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:03,200 Speaker 5: once you get to a certain age, like it's one 1460 01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 5: of those things where you go you did an age 1461 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 5: gap where okay, you rich a certain age, you're out 1462 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 5: in somebody else's in. 1463 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,080 Speaker 4: Motherfucker, you're too old. 1464 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying. 1465 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 2: It just and her speaking up about it made her 1466 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,759 Speaker 2: a target and she's seeing it. But imagine being black, 1467 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 2: Imagine living in it, Imagine being Imagine what people are 1468 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,800 Speaker 2: saying that Avera do Vernet who stood up for her movie. 1469 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: Imagine the ship she's getting You think you're getting shit. 1470 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 2: Imagine what she's getting. And like I said, I'm not. 1471 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 2: It's just a hard discussion. It's just a hard thing 1472 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 2: to do because it is Jessica Chasta ain't gonna put 1473 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,439 Speaker 2: down her MVP trophy and say no to give it 1474 01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:46,120 Speaker 2: to someone black. 1475 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,599 Speaker 3: I mean, what do you do? How do you pick 1476 01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:50,719 Speaker 3: someone other than yourself? 1477 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,240 Speaker 2: Like it will require selflessness, which is why you have 1478 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 2: to start at the top, like it's got to start 1479 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 2: with the decision makers. Because and also if I was white, 1480 01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 2: how can you ever be sure that you earned your 1481 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 2: fucking award? 1482 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 1483 01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,879 Speaker 2: How when you know people more deserving are being basically 1484 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 2: taken out of the equation to even be considered. You know, 1485 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,559 Speaker 2: it's like being a baseball player before they broke the 1486 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,200 Speaker 2: color bearer. 1487 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,519 Speaker 3: Were you really that good? You know, you didn't play. 1488 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,439 Speaker 2: Against people who were skilled but never got a chance, 1489 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,760 Speaker 2: like the best people weren't in your situation. So I 1490 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 2: don't know, man. I mean, I empathize for Jessica chat State, 1491 01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,360 Speaker 2: and I really think it was brave and bold of 1492 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 2: her to even make that speak. 1493 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 5: And for the fact that she's a woman, people are like, 1494 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 5: oh right, And I love that she didn't just try 1495 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 5: to be like because Martin Luther King was for the 1496 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 5: black people, So black people right, Homophobia, misogyny, sexism, all 1497 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,679 Speaker 5: of it, racism, like anti semitism. 1498 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,559 Speaker 3: Like it should be all of it. 1499 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Shit is shit that that industry should be pushing out, 1500 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 2: like get this out of here. We're trying to run 1501 01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 2: something that is inclusive. And I'm glad she spoke up. 1502 01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 14: Man. 1503 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, she didn't have to do that shit. She could 1504 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 3: have just. 1505 01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:13,800 Speaker 2: Cried about her puppy like everybody else does and acted 1506 01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 2: like everything was fine, you know. Oh, all right, let's 1507 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:24,520 Speaker 2: see what else we got here. Oh, here's a sad story. 1508 01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 2: Apparently a woman a woman got text. No, a text 1509 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 2: mocked a woman who says she was drugged and raped 1510 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 2: at a Duke frat party. Yeah, the text was haha, 1511 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:41,360 Speaker 2: you're screwed. 1512 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 13: An investigation is underway right now in Durham police and 1513 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,920 Speaker 13: Duke University campus officials try to sort out exactly what 1514 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,479 Speaker 13: happened to a young woman who claims she was raped 1515 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 13: while at a party inside this fraternity house two fridays ago. 1516 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 7: Joe Brown is working at sources gathering new details for us. 1517 01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,439 Speaker 2: He's live outside Durham. 1518 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 4: PD's head Joel Heather Steve. 1519 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 14: That frat party was thrown earlier this month, on the 1520 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 14: same day the Duke undergrads returned to class for spring semester. Now, 1521 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,960 Speaker 14: with this rape investigation and university suspension, it's going to 1522 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 14: be the last party this fraternity holds for at least 1523 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:15,880 Speaker 14: a while. 1524 01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 3: We had a sexual assault which involved a Duke student. 1525 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,719 Speaker 14: It happened not far from Duke's West campus at Thursday 1526 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 14: ninth party January eighth, at the Alpha Delta Phi fraternity. 1527 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 3: House on Westchapel Hill Street. 1528 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,080 Speaker 14: It's a private home least to members of the frat 1529 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 14: and where a Duke student says she was drugged and 1530 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 14: raped during PD is leading the investigation. 1531 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 10: We're hopeful that more folks will come forward and we'll 1532 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 10: get more information so we can get to the bottom 1533 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:40,800 Speaker 10: of it. 1534 01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 14: No one answered when we went knocking on the frat 1535 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 14: house door. In court documents, the Duke student says she 1536 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 14: was at the party with a friend. One of the 1537 01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,360 Speaker 14: frat members offered to show her his bedroom, She refused 1538 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 14: and returned to the party. She says she was poor 1539 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 14: to drink of what she was told was hot chocolate 1540 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,720 Speaker 14: that didn't smell alcoholic. The next thing, she remembers, she 1541 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 14: woke up the next afternoon in a T shirt she 1542 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 14: didn't recognize and no underwear. A rate kit was performed 1543 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 14: at Duke Hospital and DPD got a search warrant for 1544 01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 14: the frat house. 1545 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 5: At this point in time, the investigation is ongoing, so 1546 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,160 Speaker 5: I don't know how many suspects will come. 1547 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,400 Speaker 3: Out of it. 1548 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,000 Speaker 14: Investigators found containers with remnants of that hot chocolate drink. 1549 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 14: Now the question was it drugged? They found the woman's 1550 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 14: underwear and DNA evidence. In a statement to Eyewitness News, 1551 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,439 Speaker 14: a Duke spokesperson said the school is cooperating with Durham 1552 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,880 Speaker 14: Police in the investigation. Pur Suing to Duke's policy, the 1553 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 14: fraternity has been placed on interim suspension until further notice, 1554 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:43,040 Speaker 14: so while the university and police determines what happens. That 1555 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,440 Speaker 14: interim suspension means no recruiting, no events, and no parties 1556 01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 14: for Alpha Delta Phi where a lot outside Durham Police headquarters. Tonight. 1557 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,920 Speaker 14: I'm Joel Brown, ABC eleven, Eyewitness Noons. 1558 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 1559 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 2: The woman said she had no other memories of the 1560 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,920 Speaker 2: evening after dancing with her friends, who woke up the 1561 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:06,880 Speaker 2: next afternoon that T shirt. She found leggings she was 1562 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 2: wearing the night before next to the bed and they 1563 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:12,599 Speaker 2: were torn. A text message was left on her phone 1564 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 2: that said, ha ha you went back with a kid. 1565 01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 2: I know you're screwed, said she didn't recognize the number, 1566 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,559 Speaker 2: and her roommate told her that she had not remembered 1567 01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,760 Speaker 2: going to the bedroom. 1568 01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 3: Because she was passed out at the time. 1569 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:33,120 Speaker 2: That's weird that her roommate was there, like, oh, you 1570 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 2: were just passed out, or she said, I. 1571 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:38,640 Speaker 5: Don't remembermate might not remember because her roommate might have 1572 01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:39,320 Speaker 5: been passed out. 1573 01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if her roommate was passed out or 1574 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,760 Speaker 2: her roommate saying you were passed out that's why you 1575 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 2: don't remember. Ain't either way, man, fuck yeah, Like, what 1576 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,280 Speaker 2: do you do with some shit like that? 1577 01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 5: You know? And and my thing is this, they go 1578 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,040 Speaker 5: back to the house and find your drawers and all 1579 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,200 Speaker 5: this other shit stuff, you know, mean stuff that you 1580 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,320 Speaker 5: were supposed to leave with because you came there with. 1581 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, somebody gotta go to somebody gotta go to jail. 1582 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 10: Bro. 1583 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 3: Maybe somebodies correct, you know. 1584 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,760 Speaker 2: And if someone was texting that kind of shit, Like 1585 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,559 Speaker 2: that means they definitely knew what was up. 1586 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 3: They definitely knew the whole thing. 1587 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 5: Like no, so whoever text that they probably gonna trace 1588 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,880 Speaker 5: that number, find out who that person is, and hound 1589 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:32,960 Speaker 5: that person because I guarantee you that person was involved. 1590 01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 4: Or they know Basically they said they know who was involved. 1591 01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,719 Speaker 3: Basically, yeah, yep, I hope all. 1592 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 4: Your fuckers go to jail. 1593 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:44,519 Speaker 2: The brutal secrets behind the Biggest Loser. Karen loves this show. 1594 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 4: Oh, I know. 1595 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,479 Speaker 5: They work out like a motherfucking job. They work out 1596 01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 5: eight hours a day. 1597 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,920 Speaker 2: Uh Kai Hibbert weigh two hundred sixty five pounds before 1598 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,599 Speaker 2: starting The Biggest Loser had dropped one hundred and twenty 1599 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,680 Speaker 2: one pounds during the show and ended up at She 1600 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 2: had always struggled with her weight, but she ended up 1601 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 2: wanting to lose it because her best friend called her 1602 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,479 Speaker 2: fat and said and said, you need to join The 1603 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 2: Biggest Loser. So she made a video tape. Next thing, 1604 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,880 Speaker 2: you know, I'm on reality TV. She said, the whole 1605 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,040 Speaker 2: fucking show is a fat shame and disaster. 1606 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 3: What I'm that I'm embarrassed to have participated in. 1607 01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 2: Since it's premiere in two thousand and four, the Biggest 1608 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 2: Loser was pitched obese contestants against one another and a 1609 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,040 Speaker 2: race to lose the most weight. Has been one of 1610 01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,480 Speaker 2: the most popular reality shows of all time. The sixteenth 1611 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:41,400 Speaker 2: season finale will air July or January twenty ninth. Average 1612 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 2: weekly viewership is seven million people. Around two hundred thousand 1613 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,760 Speaker 2: people auditioned per season. The show rates in about one 1614 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,679 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars annually in ad sells, with ancillary products 1615 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,120 Speaker 2: such as cookbooks, DVDs, protein powder, clothing, video games, and 1616 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,640 Speaker 2: branded weight loss camps, bringing in tens of millions of 1617 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 2: more dollars per year in a country where two thirds 1618 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,280 Speaker 2: of the population is overweight or obese. The Biggest Loser 1619 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 2: has a main fact multi faceted appeal. It's aspirational and grotesque, 1620 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:12,920 Speaker 2: punitive and redemptive. Skinny or fat has got something for you. 1621 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 2: It's not uncommon to see contestants worked out to the 1622 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: point of vomiting or collapsing from exhaustion. Contestants collegially and 1623 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,480 Speaker 2: poignantly referred to each other as losers. 1624 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 3: You just think you're so lucky to be there. 1625 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,799 Speaker 2: Hibbert says that you don't think to question or complain 1626 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 2: about anything. The contestants are made to sign contracts giving 1627 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,479 Speaker 2: away the rights to their own storylines and forbidden them 1628 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 2: from speaking badly about the show. Once selected, Hibbert was 1629 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,640 Speaker 2: flowing to la When she got to her hotel, she 1630 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,559 Speaker 2: was greeted by a production assistant who checked her in 1631 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 2: and took away her key card. When not filming, she 1632 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 2: was to stay in the room at all times. The 1633 01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,040 Speaker 2: hotel will report to them if you leave your room, 1634 01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 2: they assume you're going to talk to other contestants. Another competitor, 1635 01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 2: who spoke to the Post on the condition of anonymity, 1636 01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:06,000 Speaker 2: says that when she first checked in, a production assistant 1637 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 2: also took her cell phone and laptop for twenty four hours. 1638 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:13,280 Speaker 3: She suspects her computer was bugged. The camera light on my. 1639 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 2: MacBook would sometimes come on when I hadn't checked in. 1640 01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:19,280 Speaker 2: It was like Big Brother was always watching you. The 1641 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:25,479 Speaker 2: sequestration last five days after the initial winnowing process, fourteen 1642 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:29,800 Speaker 2: to fifty foundalists are taken to the ranch, where they live, 1643 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,240 Speaker 2: work out and suffering seclusion. The remaining thirty six percent 1644 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 2: home to lose weight on their own and return later 1645 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,320 Speaker 2: in the season. Those who remain here, says, are not 1646 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,799 Speaker 2: allowed to call home you might give away show secrets. 1647 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:42,280 Speaker 3: She says. 1648 01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: After six weeks, contestants get to make a five minute. 1649 01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,240 Speaker 3: Call monitored by production. Damn. 1650 01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,120 Speaker 2: I know that one of the contestants children became very 1651 01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 2: ill and was in ICU. He was allowed to talk 1652 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 2: to his family, but he didn't want to leave because 1653 01:21:56,520 --> 01:22:00,639 Speaker 2: the show would have been done with him. Set the ranch, 1654 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 2: contestants are giving a medical exam, then start working out 1655 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 2: immediately for dangerous lengths of time, from five to eight 1656 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 2: hours straight. 1657 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,280 Speaker 4: Like a job. It's like a job. 1658 01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 2: There was no easing into it. That doesn't make for 1659 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 2: good TV. My feet were bleeding through my shoes for 1660 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 2: the first three weeks. My first workout was four hours long, 1661 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,080 Speaker 2: says the other contestant. She came on the show a 1662 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,439 Speaker 2: few years ago at more than three hundred pounds. On 1663 01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 2: her first day, she was put through this regiment rowing, 1664 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,719 Speaker 2: body weight work, kettlebells, cool down on treadmills, interval training, 1665 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,599 Speaker 2: stairmashed her outside work with tires. At one point she collapse. 1666 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:36,679 Speaker 2: I thought I was going to die. Couldn't take it anymore. 1667 01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:40,200 Speaker 2: Her trainer yelled, get up, then made a comment about 1668 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:41,759 Speaker 2: a sick and overweight relative. 1669 01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,759 Speaker 3: I got up. You're just in shock. Your body's in shock. 1670 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,280 Speaker 2: All the contestants would say to each other, what the 1671 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,960 Speaker 2: fuck just happened. The trainer, she says, took satisfaction and 1672 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 2: bringing their charges to physical and mental collapse. They get 1673 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,759 Speaker 2: a sick pleasure out of it. They say, it's because 1674 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,760 Speaker 2: you're fat. Look at all the fat you have on you, 1675 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 2: And that was our so this was our punishment. Herrot 1676 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 2: had the same experience. They would say things to contestants like, 1677 01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,719 Speaker 2: you're gonna die before your children grow up. You're gonna 1678 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 2: die just like your mother. We picked up your fat person, coffin. 1679 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 2: That was a that was in the text message. One 1680 01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,400 Speaker 2: production assistant told a contestant to take up smoking because 1681 01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 2: it would cut her appetite in half. 1682 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,640 Speaker 4: Wow. 1683 01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 3: Wow, it's not about getting healthy about losing weight. 1684 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,559 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, that because they lose it so fast. 1685 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,200 Speaker 5: The thing about it is that the average person is 1686 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 5: supposed to You're supposed to two to five pounds a week. 1687 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 4: They're losing like twenty five pounds in a week. 1688 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,000 Speaker 5: That that's a shock to your body and your system. 1689 01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,800 Speaker 2: And a lot of reality shows do the you can't 1690 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 2: talk to anybody, you know, give us your phone. But 1691 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,600 Speaker 2: then they it's you know, here's a dangerous amount of 1692 01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:50,880 Speaker 2: alcohol because they want to create drama and shit. But 1693 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 2: this is supposed to be a show about getting healthier 1694 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 2: and inspiration and shit. And this was like, it's actually 1695 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 2: just about, you know, abusing people seeings. 1696 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 5: Why could they work the like athletes, they have to 1697 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 5: do this that cold that ice cold thing. 1698 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 4: I seen them getting that. 1699 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:11,439 Speaker 3: Like yes, yeah, the cold tub. Meanwhile, their calories are 1700 01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 3: severely restricted. 1701 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,360 Speaker 2: To recommend the daily intake for a person of average 1702 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 2: height and waight, it is twelve hundred to sixteen hundred 1703 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 2: collegies a day. Contestants were adjus in far less than 1704 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 2: one thousand. Here says the Boka food on her season 1705 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 2: was provided by sponsors that had little to know lutritional value. 1706 01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 2: Your grocery list is approved by your trainer. She says, 1707 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,280 Speaker 2: my season had a lot of freakin foods. I can't 1708 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:37,040 Speaker 2: believe it's not butterspray, craft Craft fat free cheese, Rockstar 1709 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 2: energy drinks. 1710 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 3: And jello. 1711 01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 2: At one point, Hubert says production did blood work on 1712 01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:47,040 Speaker 2: all the contestants, and the show's doctor prescribed electrolyte drinks 1713 01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 2: and the trainer said, don't drink that, it'll put weight 1714 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,760 Speaker 2: on you. You'll lose your last chance to save your life. 1715 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,640 Speaker 2: Such extreme daily workouts and calorie restrictions result in the 1716 01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,719 Speaker 2: steep weight losses, up to thirty pounds loss in one week. 1717 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 2: Safeweight loss is one to two pounds per week, and 1718 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,919 Speaker 2: most people find that hard, said Lynn Darby, a professor 1719 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,360 Speaker 2: of exercise science at Bowling Green State University. 1720 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 4: Mouth but was too hot. My bad. 1721 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,280 Speaker 2: If you reduce your calories to less than eight hundred 1722 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 2: to one thousand a day, your metabolism will shut down. 1723 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 2: Add five to eight hours of exercise a day, that's 1724 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,760 Speaker 2: like running a marathon, and poor shake five days a week. 1725 01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that no one has really been injured on 1726 01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 2: the show. In fact, contestants have been seriously injured, but 1727 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:34,919 Speaker 2: it's not often shown. The first ever Biggest Loser, Ryan Benson, 1728 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:36,960 Speaker 2: went from three hundred and thirty pounds to two hundred 1729 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,120 Speaker 2: and eight, but after the show he said he was 1730 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,880 Speaker 2: so malnurshed he was gurinating blood. Oh that's the sign 1731 01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 2: of kidney damage, if not failure, Darby says. Benson later 1732 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:49,120 Speaker 2: gave back all the way and was just so owned 1733 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 2: by the show. In two thousand and nine, to two 1734 01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:56,400 Speaker 2: contestants were hospitalized, one via airlift, and in twenty Fourteen's 1735 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,759 Speaker 2: Biggest Loser, Rachel Frederickson, became the first winner to generate 1736 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,519 Speaker 2: ins When she had lost too much weight, dropping one 1737 01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pounds a month, she appeared on 1738 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:08,480 Speaker 2: the cover of People with a headline two Thin too Fast. Frederickson, 1739 01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 2: five foot four hundred and five pounds admitute to work 1740 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,800 Speaker 2: it out four times a day, and within one month 1741 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 2: of the finale she gained twenty pounds back. Just calorie 1742 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,479 Speaker 2: restriction in and of itself to be supervised, Darby said, 1743 01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,120 Speaker 2: I mean people die. Then add the exercise load on 1744 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,639 Speaker 2: top of it, the joints of someone who was never 1745 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,880 Speaker 2: exercised of serving the force of three hundred pounds of 1746 01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:30,679 Speaker 2: jumping and bouncing. 1747 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:31,599 Speaker 3: It's just not safe. 1748 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 2: Hero says that she and other contestants sustained major physical damage. 1749 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 2: One contest added torn calf muscle and bersidis in her knees. 1750 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 2: The doctor told her, you need the rest. Production told me. 1751 01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 3: I can't rest. 1752 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 2: At one point after that, production ordered her to run 1753 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,400 Speaker 2: and she said I can't. She was seriously injured, but 1754 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,600 Speaker 2: they edited her to make her look lazy, bitchy and combatitive. 1755 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Damn because they got to edit. They got the editing 1756 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 2: so they can just be like, hey, get up and run. 1757 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 2: It's like I can't won't perform like a trombone or something, 1758 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:09,320 Speaker 2: you know, make make animal sound effects and ship. Yeah, 1759 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 2: it's like, oh, we gotta sound of an elephant or 1760 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 2: something like, just play that ship. Since you won't, uh 1761 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:20,000 Speaker 2: you won't get up? Hey, why don't you get up there? 1762 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:27,639 Speaker 2: And uh and and and get the running, all pretending 1763 01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 2: to be hurt. Oh oh, oh you're gonna you're gonna 1764 01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,719 Speaker 2: pray your kiddy, Now get up, your little bitch. 1765 01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 3: You being a pussy. That's right. 1766 01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,000 Speaker 2: Because they got the editing thing, they can make you 1767 01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:46,840 Speaker 2: look like anything. It's amazing. So h yeah, I said, 1768 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 2: well here, it's a health to cry dramatically. My hair 1769 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,120 Speaker 2: was falling out, my period stopped. I was only sleeping 1770 01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,200 Speaker 2: three hours a night, she said. To this day, her 1771 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,839 Speaker 2: period is irregular. Hair still falls out at her knees, 1772 01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,440 Speaker 2: sound like Sarah rap every time she goes up and downstairs. 1773 01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 2: My thyroid, which I never had problems with, is now 1774 01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,960 Speaker 2: crap she says one of the other losers. I started 1775 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,759 Speaker 2: taking showers together because we couldn't lift our arms above 1776 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 2: our heads, says the other contestant. We ducked down so 1777 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:18,799 Speaker 2: we could shampoo each other. The trainer, she says, were unmoved. 1778 01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,240 Speaker 2: They say stuff like pain is just weakness leaving the body. 1779 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 2: This contestant says she and most of her castmates came 1780 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 2: away with bad knees. There was one guy who's back 1781 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,759 Speaker 2: was so bad he could only exercise in the swimming pool. 1782 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,600 Speaker 2: By the end of the show, I was running on 1783 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,719 Speaker 2: four hundred calories in eight to nine hour workouts. 1784 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,960 Speaker 3: Today, someone asked me where I was born. I couldn't remember. 1785 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,639 Speaker 3: My short term memory still sucks. 1786 01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,559 Speaker 2: Wow, So why did so many contestants stick with the show? 1787 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 3: Your brainwash to believe that you're so. 1788 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,759 Speaker 2: Super lucky to be there, Hibbert says one doctor total contestant, 1789 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,920 Speaker 2: she was exhibiting Stein's signs of Stockholm syndrome, and hibberd 1790 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: herself fell pray to it. 1791 01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,479 Speaker 4: What's that? 1792 01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,920 Speaker 2: That's when you started identifying with your captors and like 1793 01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 2: a colt or a kidnapping situation. 1794 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,880 Speaker 3: I was thinking, dear God, don't let anybody down. 1795 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 2: You will appear ungrateful if you don't lose more weight 1796 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 2: before the season finale. Damn, wow wow. A doctor is 1797 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,960 Speaker 2: telling you like you are going to fucking like kill yourself. 1798 01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 2: You're just like, oh God, don't be a bitch. I'm 1799 01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 2: gonna look so stupid. The other contestant had a similar response. 1800 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,639 Speaker 2: Despite the harassment and bully and I wanted to please them, 1801 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 2: She lost seven pounds in one week and apologized I 1802 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 2: lost twelve the week before. For Herebert, the low point 1803 01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:34,400 Speaker 2: came when she and her fellow losers were brought to 1804 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,040 Speaker 2: a racetrack where they were housed in individual horse dolls. 1805 01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,439 Speaker 3: When a ball went off. 1806 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 2: They had to run neck and neck like animals, picking 1807 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,120 Speaker 2: up sacks filled with their lost weight on the way 1808 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:46,799 Speaker 2: I walked, she says. 1809 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:48,439 Speaker 3: It was a minor form of protest. 1810 01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 2: They edited to lake it look like I was lazy, 1811 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,720 Speaker 2: she says, but I wasn't particip participating because it was humiliating. 1812 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,960 Speaker 2: When Hibbert got home, her best friend and boyfriend took 1813 01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,400 Speaker 2: her straight to the doctor. She said, I had such 1814 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,120 Speaker 2: severe shen splints that she didn't know how it was 1815 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,240 Speaker 2: still walking. The show's most famous trainer, Jillian Michaels quit 1816 01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 2: The Biggest Loser for the third time in June, with 1817 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,880 Speaker 2: People magazine reporting she's deeply concerned about the show's poor 1818 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,160 Speaker 2: care of the contestants. 1819 01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,880 Speaker 3: She's quit two other times before. Shit. 1820 01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:22,680 Speaker 2: I guess the checks must be good and make a 1821 01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:26,760 Speaker 2: comeback might just be a way to negotiate. In the 1822 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 2: statement to the Post, NBC said only our con tests 1823 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,240 Speaker 2: are closely monitored to medically supervised. The consistent Biggest Loser 1824 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,679 Speaker 2: health transformations of over three hundred contestants through sixteen seasons 1825 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,760 Speaker 2: of the program speak for themselves. 1826 01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,560 Speaker 3: Expert Darby doesn't buy it. 1827 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:42,920 Speaker 2: With most weight loss programs, people gain at least half 1828 01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,960 Speaker 2: the weight back, she says, and the people who are 1829 01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,800 Speaker 2: most successful in our studies are the ones who make 1830 01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 2: small changes over the long term. So I can't imagine 1831 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 2: that anyone on The Biggest Loser has weight loss that's sustainable. 1832 01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,120 Speaker 3: Herbett, who lost one hundred and twenty one pounds, ended. 1833 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,320 Speaker 2: Up at four but put weight back on but won't 1834 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 2: say how much yet. She feels a responsibility as someone 1835 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 2: once held up as a false inspiration. I'm going to 1836 01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 2: walk around collect the accolades. I mean, if I'm going 1837 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:09,960 Speaker 2: to walk around collect the accolades. I also have responsibility 1838 01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,559 Speaker 2: to tell the truth. There's a moral and ethical question 1839 01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,559 Speaker 2: here when you take people who are more really obese 1840 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 2: and work them to the point where they vomit, all 1841 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:18,400 Speaker 2: because it. 1842 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 3: Makes good TV. M crazy man, that's your show though? 1843 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:26,400 Speaker 4: No, just. 1844 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,120 Speaker 3: Finale to be coming on in just over a weeke Candi. No, 1845 01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 3: you can't wait. Those people, those people kill themselves. 1846 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:38,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was like this, sir. 1847 01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,880 Speaker 2: Oh you mean I knew that you knew one of me. 1848 01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't even read the article fast enough. He was like, M, 1849 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:46,320 Speaker 2: they do be doing that? 1850 01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:47,840 Speaker 4: Well, because because that's what I say. 1851 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 5: I know that I know that losing that amount of 1852 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,960 Speaker 5: weight is not healthy. But you know, I was thinking, well, 1853 01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:55,600 Speaker 5: you got the doctors and all that stuff then, But 1854 01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,720 Speaker 5: apparently that they just they're just to monitor and be 1855 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:00,519 Speaker 5: sure you're still good for the ship. 1856 01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all they care about. It's a product. 1857 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,719 Speaker 2: You know, they're not They're not sitting around going, oh, 1858 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,240 Speaker 2: you know how serious we're taking this. That's just like 1859 01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 2: we what makes the best TV? You know, That's that's 1860 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,240 Speaker 2: pretty much all they care about. Hey, is this good TV? 1861 01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:21,120 Speaker 2: Is this not good TV. Oh, it's good TV. Cool 1862 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:26,400 Speaker 2: and we are good with this bullshit. But uh yeah, 1863 01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. What's fair games. 1864 01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:34,639 Speaker 15: Ship? 1865 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:42,720 Speaker 3: You know I'm looking for fast up. I know I'm 1866 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:43,600 Speaker 3: talking about. 1867 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:45,080 Speaker 12: You looking like you just keep down. 1868 01:32:54,880 --> 01:33:02,680 Speaker 3: Much you nine calls. We don't call him no more 1869 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 3: or nothing. 1870 01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,080 Speaker 1: We call him five sola fistar. 1871 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:06,639 Speaker 3: He's a five star. 1872 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 15: That's a six for the five just that new mc 1873 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,200 Speaker 15: gill might even play all. 1874 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 3: Right, ain't no way she give it to me money ever, 1875 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,839 Speaker 3: spid like, I ain't even lie. I'm so super high. 1876 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:20,439 Speaker 6: Do not. 1877 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:23,639 Speaker 15: You know we'll not keep up unless you need You're 1878 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,839 Speaker 15: not supposed you man's a strong say she loves. 1879 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:27,559 Speaker 3: Me, she loves you? 1880 01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:27,960 Speaker 15: Not yea. 1881 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 3: I want to be just little men on the leak 1882 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,200 Speaker 3: and then we can find the five star. All right, 1883 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,519 Speaker 3: here's your numbers. Pay attention. 1884 01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 2: Number one hollorific relationships. First date dudes and don'ts by 1885 01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,200 Speaker 2: at Miller gree Number two, group of tails. I'm tired 1886 01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:52,519 Speaker 2: of Angela Yee treated me like a sex slave. Number 1887 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:56,720 Speaker 2: three hollorific relationships dating, don't scare him away by at 1888 01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:03,160 Speaker 2: mill agree two by her. Number four hollorific beauty butt 1889 01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,720 Speaker 2: in plants versus button shots versus fat transfer by at 1890 01:34:06,760 --> 01:34:10,960 Speaker 2: Doctor Miami and number five holorific relationships. Do I really 1891 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,439 Speaker 2: want a date of baller by Queen Alvannya. Well, let's 1892 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 2: go ahead and go with those five guys. 1893 01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 4: One through five. 1894 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,719 Speaker 2: Oh, people want people want us to go to the more. 1895 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,080 Speaker 2: All right, six and seven, I'll give you these. Miami 1896 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 2: Condo wants to kick bird Man out. And number seven 1897 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,920 Speaker 2: is how to become a rapper in twenty fifteen. All right, 1898 01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 2: there you go, So one through seven, you guys, caron'll 1899 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,840 Speaker 2: tally it up and we'll see what you got to say. 1900 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:42,240 Speaker 2: Got a couple of sixes in there? Three sixes in 1901 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:46,160 Speaker 2: a row, all niggas press for some bird man? 1902 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,000 Speaker 3: Got a three couple? Two's all right? 1903 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,160 Speaker 2: Look like four and six are tied? Right or my 1904 01:34:56,439 --> 01:34:59,400 Speaker 2: counting wrong? Oh no, that I think that six put 1905 01:34:59,439 --> 01:34:59,760 Speaker 2: it over. 1906 01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:03,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we want to get that Birdman off. 1907 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 5: That was like we want Birdman to go ahead and 1908 01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:05,840 Speaker 5: get off the list. 1909 01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,799 Speaker 3: All right, let's get him out of here. Guys. 1910 01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 2: Yikesballer Alert dot com is the type. Oh no, it's gone, 1911 01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,240 Speaker 2: the article is gone. 1912 01:35:17,240 --> 01:35:21,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what happened. Man, 1913 01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,240 Speaker 3: let me try to search. 1914 01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,240 Speaker 4: The Birdman fly away. 1915 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened with that. Maybe they took 1916 01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:33,960 Speaker 3: it off the site. 1917 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,559 Speaker 2: I mean I still had the old save part of it, 1918 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 2: but I won't be able to read the comments without 1919 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 2: without this. 1920 01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:47,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, with then the next the next one is number four. 1921 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,800 Speaker 5: All right, So sorry, y'all don't have to worry about 1922 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,559 Speaker 5: bird Man. He left the coop on his own. 1923 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, guys. Ball Alert took that down for some reason. 1924 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,439 Speaker 4: I guess they were tired with a bunch of the 1925 01:35:58,479 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 4: chat room. 1926 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 2: So number four is Bellorific Beauty butt in Plans versus 1927 01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:07,720 Speaker 2: butt shots versus fat transfer by Doctor Miami. 1928 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:10,599 Speaker 3: And that one did come up. 1929 01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,560 Speaker 2: And I'll put the picture for the article in the 1930 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,080 Speaker 2: chat room if you guys want to see what they 1931 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,280 Speaker 2: want you to visualize when they talk about this. 1932 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,440 Speaker 3: There you go. It's Kim Kardashian. 1933 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:29,760 Speaker 2: Michael Salhauser, MD FACS aka Doctor Miami is a BORD 1934 01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,599 Speaker 2: certified plastic surgeon and owner of Ball Harbor Plastic Surgery 1935 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:34,120 Speaker 2: in Miami. 1936 01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:36,080 Speaker 3: He's going to be giving us a few. 1937 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 2: Tips on different types of butt enhancements and what's right 1938 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 2: for you read below. I think the best way to 1939 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 2: talk about button plans versus butt shots versus BBL Brazilian 1940 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:49,880 Speaker 2: butt lift equal fat transfer is talk about the most 1941 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:53,439 Speaker 2: famous butt in the world, Kim Kardashian. Everyone asked me 1942 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,960 Speaker 2: if Kim K's butt is real. Yes, a butt like 1943 01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,440 Speaker 2: that is possible in quote unquote real life without photoshops. 1944 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 2: I have several patients with a shape identical to Kils. However, 1945 01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 2: it requires a combination of great genes and good cosmetic surgery. 1946 01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,640 Speaker 2: I believe Kim when she says she doesn't have butt implants, 1947 01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,760 Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean her butt is all natural. There 1948 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,479 Speaker 2: are three ways that enhance butt shape, size, and projection. 1949 01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:21,160 Speaker 2: Number one butt implants. Butt implants are butt shaped silicon 1950 01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 2: prestics that are surgically implanted. They are painful and fraught 1951 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:31,599 Speaker 2: with potential complications infection, scarring, extrusion, mouth positions, etc. Therefore, 1952 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:35,400 Speaker 2: silicon butt implants have fallen out of favor. Few surgeons 1953 01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:38,479 Speaker 2: put them in anymore. I doubt Kim has them. Also, 1954 01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,760 Speaker 2: they can sometimes, but not always, show up on an 1955 01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:43,759 Speaker 2: X ray. By the way, and MRI should be the 1956 01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,920 Speaker 2: definitive test, not an X ray To prove it one, 1957 01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 2: So having a standard X ray alone doesn't prove anything. 1958 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,240 Speaker 4: Right, be happy with your ass? 1959 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,280 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, you're speaking from ass privileged care ha. People 1960 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,720 Speaker 2: get all kinds of stuff to be happy with themselves. 1961 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:03,160 Speaker 3: And that's true. 1962 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,080 Speaker 2: People get breast in plants, people get their nose worked on. 1963 01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,439 Speaker 2: I don't think you can just shame people out of 1964 01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:10,880 Speaker 2: out of doing stuff like that. 1965 01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. Okay, okay, all right. 1966 01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 5: When I when I when I come from when I 1967 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,519 Speaker 5: say be happy with your ass, it's one of those 1968 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,160 Speaker 5: things where it's like hearing the description that you reading 1969 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:28,040 Speaker 5: the butt implants, I'm looking like, why would you want 1970 01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 5: to do that? 1971 01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 2: But that's your personal preference. You don't have to do that. 1972 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:35,000 Speaker 2: I'm not into those things as well, but there's some 1973 01:38:35,040 --> 01:38:38,519 Speaker 2: people that are. You know, you don't have to. If 1974 01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:40,639 Speaker 2: you want to get some bigger titties or some ship, 1975 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,639 Speaker 2: then you can do it. 1976 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, just I and I guess my thing is safety reasons, 1977 01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:48,719 Speaker 5: you know, at least with that, I mean it's shifting 1978 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:51,240 Speaker 5: and ship, you know, be safe. 1979 01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:52,960 Speaker 3: With its risk of everything. 1980 01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:57,400 Speaker 2: If you know, when I, if I get my tonsils 1981 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,040 Speaker 2: taken out, there's a risk, you know, so look, it's 1982 01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,479 Speaker 2: an elective surgery. If people want to take the risk 1983 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,320 Speaker 2: to get it, I don't have a problem with it, honestly. 1984 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 3: Oh, everything's not for me. 1985 01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that got like one of 1986 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,400 Speaker 2: the things impooring now is people with these huge, fake asses, 1987 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,800 Speaker 2: like it's not really my thing, but whatever, you know, 1988 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:17,920 Speaker 2: that's the thing they wanted to do. 1989 01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,080 Speaker 3: Who gives a fuck. It's not like I gotta buy 1990 01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 3: a jeans. That's true too. 1991 01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:25,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and yeah, yeah, something I don't I don't have 1992 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:28,200 Speaker 5: to deal with. But but I guess I don't know. 1993 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:34,639 Speaker 5: I'm just talking from my personal I guess, uh perspective. Yeah, 1994 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 5: because yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad, My bad, y'all. Because 1995 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 5: I'm not even gonna lie. My ass is big. So 1996 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,360 Speaker 5: it's just one of those things. But I guess because 1997 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:44,280 Speaker 5: I'm talking from from a place where I'm like, why 1998 01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,479 Speaker 5: would you want to alter your ass something that you 1999 01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:47,880 Speaker 5: sit on and you need every day? 2000 01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:48,439 Speaker 3: Oh? 2001 01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,760 Speaker 2: People, some people feel insecure about it every day. That's 2002 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,960 Speaker 2: true to number two. Fat transfer to the glutio area 2003 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,679 Speaker 2: AK Brazilian butt lift is the safest, the most popular 2004 01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,280 Speaker 2: way to reshape the butt. The operation of liposuctioning fat 2005 01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,559 Speaker 2: from body areas you don't want it tummy, back, arms, etc. 2006 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 2: Transferring it to the butt to improve shape, size of projection. 2007 01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,880 Speaker 2: This operation is the only way to dramatically reshape a 2008 01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 2: woman's curves to look like Kim Kardashian. The fat last forever. 2009 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 2: It's your own fat, so as you gain weight, it 2010 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 2: grows with you. Also, it is completely undetectable on an 2011 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:23,639 Speaker 2: X ray or MRI, so that there is no medical 2012 01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,760 Speaker 2: way to prove Kim k did or did not have 2013 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:26,439 Speaker 2: that procedure. 2014 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,200 Speaker 3: In my experience, ninety nine point nine percent of. 2015 01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,160 Speaker 2: Women out there with this dramatic shape, tiny waists and 2016 01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,679 Speaker 2: big butt have had this operation. However, it is possible 2017 01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 2: that Kim K is the lucky one in a million 2018 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:38,920 Speaker 2: that was born with it. 2019 01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:40,599 Speaker 3: No way to know without her. 2020 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,760 Speaker 2: Complete medical records or a very thorough physical exam that 2021 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,439 Speaker 2: would reveal the tiny incision scars where the injections took place. 2022 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:51,520 Speaker 2: They are usually hidden in the crease just under the butt. 2023 01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:54,759 Speaker 3: By the way, isn't this crazy that. 2024 01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:59,240 Speaker 2: This article became about how to figure out if Kim 2025 01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:04,639 Speaker 2: K's But it's like it's so funny anyway. Number three 2026 01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 2: butt injections. These are fillers, silicon, hydrogel, hyaluronic acid to 2027 01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,720 Speaker 2: name a few that are injected through a needle to 2028 01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:15,559 Speaker 2: expand the butt. 2029 01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,120 Speaker 3: However, some are permanent eg. 2030 01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:23,599 Speaker 2: Silicon, Others are temporary, like hyaluronic acid last one year. However, 2031 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:26,840 Speaker 2: all are riskier than using your own fatcy option too, 2032 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:30,120 Speaker 2: because the body can react harshly to farm material injected. 2033 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 2: It can cause chronic inflammation or permanent disfigurement. These usually 2034 01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,720 Speaker 2: do not show up on an X ray either, but 2035 01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:40,360 Speaker 2: again no way to know for sure without an MRI exam. 2036 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 2: I know, I hope for Kim's sake, she didn't go 2037 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,920 Speaker 2: to this route, as a long term complications can be 2038 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:45,679 Speaker 2: pretty awful. 2039 01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:47,439 Speaker 4: Oh is that what people do? 2040 01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 5: When we were reading the articles articles about they gluing asses? 2041 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 3: Yep? 2042 01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,280 Speaker 2: Oh my Five things to know about butt fillers One 2043 01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:59,640 Speaker 2: use your own fat. Two everything besides fat silicon PMMA. 2044 01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:04,760 Speaker 2: How highlaluronic acid can have severe long term complications. Number 2045 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,200 Speaker 2: three the butt can expand quite dramatically up to three 2046 01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:13,120 Speaker 2: times as normal size. Four Any butt, any butt enhancement 2047 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,799 Speaker 2: should be done by an experienced board certain five plastic 2048 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,080 Speaker 2: surgeon in the sterile operating room setting, not someone in 2049 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:20,080 Speaker 2: the back of a hair salon. 2050 01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:24,120 Speaker 5: Correct, And if you're gonna get it done, pay that money. 2051 01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,439 Speaker 5: That's you know, there's things you can go cheap on, 2052 01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,360 Speaker 5: your health is not one of them. In operations on 2053 01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,439 Speaker 5: your body, don't go cheap. If demand say five hundred 2054 01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,160 Speaker 5: thousand dollars, goddamn it, you pay that man. 2055 01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 3: Number five. 2056 01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,439 Speaker 2: Butt augmentation is the fastest growing plastic surgery worldwide, up 2057 01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,479 Speaker 2: more than sixty percent last year. Any questions feel free 2058 01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:48,440 Speaker 2: to make a consultation with me my website wwballbody dot com. 2059 01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:52,480 Speaker 2: I perform more than three hundred and fifty butt augmentations 2060 01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:59,479 Speaker 2: per year. Sincerely, Michael show Salshawer, MD, FACS board Certain 2061 01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:00,519 Speaker 2: five plastic surgeon. 2062 01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, and I guess for me, just 2063 01:43:04,240 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 5: the way society is designed, it always well, it just 2064 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 5: makes people, but especially women, you just inferior if you 2065 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:13,439 Speaker 5: don't have this, this, that and the other. 2066 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 4: And you know, some people do it because what they 2067 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 4: want to do. 2068 01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:18,240 Speaker 5: But you know, for some people, I think they just 2069 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,720 Speaker 5: fall under that I'm not pretty enough, I'm not being enough, 2070 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,519 Speaker 5: and there's something wrong with my body. 2071 01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that insecurity is real. But maybe this is the 2072 01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,040 Speaker 3: thing that I'll help with. I don't know. 2073 01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 2: I can't decide for someone else what they can and 2074 01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,479 Speaker 2: can't do with their own bodies, like trying to tell 2075 01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:33,719 Speaker 2: somebody they can't have an abortion. 2076 01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:34,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2077 01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 2: Whatever, If this is what you want to do, it's 2078 01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 2: what you want to do, you know, that's true. I'm 2079 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:44,080 Speaker 2: not particularly into fake whatever the fucks, but that that's 2080 01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 2: my prerogative, you know what I mean. It's not for 2081 01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:48,280 Speaker 2: me to say, well, no one can get it because 2082 01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,840 Speaker 2: I don't like it. And if you go into the 2083 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 2: situation knowing the dangers, then you're an adult. 2084 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,120 Speaker 3: What the fuck else is there to say? 2085 01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,519 Speaker 2: Sean says number six, Make sure your thighs ass ratio 2086 01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,120 Speaker 2: is somewhat close in diameter or you'll look. 2087 01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:04,759 Speaker 3: Like an Ostrich with a zebra ass. 2088 01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,839 Speaker 2: Sandy Cheek says, at Sean, shut up, Lol at Ostrich 2089 01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,960 Speaker 2: with a zebra ass, But you do have a. 2090 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,599 Speaker 3: Point, Oh lord. Nico Rode says, cracking the hell up? 2091 01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,160 Speaker 3: Is Sean? So true? Selena Thomas says she looks worse 2092 01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,559 Speaker 3: in person. Do odd? 2093 01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:25,080 Speaker 2: When I first saw Kim at the Las Vegas All 2094 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,720 Speaker 2: Star Events, she looked she looked she looked. 2095 01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:32,719 Speaker 3: Was at a better Now she's just odd looking. Hey, 2096 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:33,719 Speaker 3: but she rich. 2097 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,080 Speaker 2: I guess Selena kind of a hater. I've noticed her 2098 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,719 Speaker 2: comments be kind of hating over the past few weeks. 2099 01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, she kind of. She don't. She don't really, she 2100 01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:44,840 Speaker 3: don't have it for a lot of people. 2101 01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 2: Man Crunk Atlanta says at Sean, you on point. If 2102 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 2: anything fat transfer would be best? It's natural, But I 2103 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 2: just like it big so Lushia says, Nope, she wasn't 2104 01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,640 Speaker 2: born with it a pre fame. She was flattered pancake. 2105 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,240 Speaker 2: So is Nikki Coco et cetera. As an adult. Yes, 2106 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 2: your body might go through some changes, but you don't 2107 01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:11,880 Speaker 2: go from pancake to two basketballs. Lemon drop Pop says, 2108 01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,960 Speaker 2: Sean is right. Was this a plug for the doctor? 2109 01:45:14,960 --> 01:45:18,320 Speaker 2: Because there ain't much details about this stuff. Will a 2110 01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,720 Speaker 2: big butt really help me get a baller? Who is 2111 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,439 Speaker 2: the best doctor? Who did the video? 2112 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,800 Speaker 3: Girls go to? What's the average price? 2113 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,600 Speaker 2: Most of all, will you be able to tell a 2114 01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 2: B B L by touching it like a fake breast? 2115 01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,719 Speaker 3: Ah? These are good. 2116 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:37,400 Speaker 2: Questions, and that's the last comment that baller alert flash 2117 01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:40,920 Speaker 2: stop the flask stop fast off. 2118 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:42,680 Speaker 3: Ben and a fast stop. 2119 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:48,559 Speaker 15: In your head. 2120 01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:53,560 Speaker 3: Something you will plastop, you will fast stop, you fast. 2121 01:45:53,160 --> 01:46:00,240 Speaker 15: Top a fast fast stop, fast top, pastop. 2122 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,280 Speaker 3: Fast off. 2123 01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 15: Cute? 2124 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:03,280 Speaker 4: Got it? 2125 01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,439 Speaker 3: I do grade a ship on the Brittish Nigga Walking 2126 01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:07,960 Speaker 3: and did the remake. 2127 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,479 Speaker 15: It's still like I'm looking pull fast ship, pull, I 2128 01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:12,840 Speaker 15: catch your home at. 2129 01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 3: Some one of the fast kids ship. 2130 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:19,280 Speaker 7: You're pulling off machine chasing, no sucking and miss real niggachine. 2131 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,760 Speaker 3: Never puck the boss to the count. 2132 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 4: To your cheery. 2133 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,120 Speaker 3: All right, let's play our other game. 2134 01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:31,000 Speaker 15: Now, that is time for some guests the race. That's right, 2135 01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:35,560 Speaker 15: it's guests the race time. Now, that is time for 2136 01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 15: some guests the race. That's right, it's guess the race time. 2137 01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:44,080 Speaker 15: That's right, it's time for guests. 2138 01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:44,840 Speaker 4: The race. 2139 01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,599 Speaker 2: The number one game show going across all the podcasts. Now, 2140 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,519 Speaker 2: when we read the play news articles from all over 2141 01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 2: the globe and we asked our contestants today the chat 2142 01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:57,880 Speaker 2: room to guests love race and the chat room is racist. 2143 01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:04,439 Speaker 3: All right, let's get this out of the way. Here's one. 2144 01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 2: A Anderson couple was arrested in a biology case. Police 2145 01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 2: and Anderson arrested a couple in a b reality case. 2146 01:47:15,560 --> 01:47:18,040 Speaker 2: At the video service of a woman performing sex acts 2147 01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 2: on a dog. 2148 01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:19,960 Speaker 14: Oh. 2149 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:25,400 Speaker 2: Nikki Colleen Murphy Johnson thirty three and Jason Aaron Johnson 2150 01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,640 Speaker 2: thirty seven faced three kinds of bestialogy in connection with 2151 01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,760 Speaker 2: the videos and photos produced on June. In June and 2152 01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 2: July twenty fourteen, According to the Anderson Police Department, dog 2153 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:37,040 Speaker 2: get style. 2154 01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:54,439 Speaker 4: Oh hold on, I couldn't pass that one up. I'm sorry. 2155 01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,960 Speaker 4: I was just too good. I know it's going it, 2156 01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,559 Speaker 4: but I don't give it dad. That's my show. 2157 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,160 Speaker 3: I just got tweeted by my boot at Adina Porter. Okay, 2158 01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:12,600 Speaker 3: lettingmate daniels. 2159 01:48:14,200 --> 01:48:14,240 Speaker 6: O. 2160 01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:19,880 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, I just gotta reply back. 2161 01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,200 Speaker 4: All right, So uh. 2162 01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,400 Speaker 2: Get back to these people who were apparently were dogging 2163 01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:32,000 Speaker 2: each other out. 2164 01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so uh. They both faced three council in 2165 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,559 Speaker 3: connection with video photos. All right. 2166 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,280 Speaker 2: Investigator from Virginia saw the video on Flag the post 2167 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:46,040 Speaker 2: on a website called beast form. 2168 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 3: Oh wow, call please come arrest me dot com. 2169 01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,519 Speaker 2: The investigation led to Anderson, where local authorities were contacted. 2170 01:48:57,560 --> 01:48:59,800 Speaker 2: Anderson Police said a couple admitted to making the video. 2171 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,720 Speaker 2: The dog, a pitbull named Lucky, was taken away from them. 2172 01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,000 Speaker 4: He got lucky. 2173 01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:10,519 Speaker 3: He sure did. Let's take the chat. 2174 01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:14,080 Speaker 2: Room guess the race of Nikki, Colleen Murphy Johnson and 2175 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:15,479 Speaker 2: Jason Aaron Johnson. 2176 01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:17,759 Speaker 3: See what they believe? 2177 01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:25,599 Speaker 2: Uh, Oscar nominee says black role. That white couple loves 2178 01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:30,599 Speaker 2: rough sex. Uh said, ah, I thought only Asians. 2179 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:31,920 Speaker 3: Eight dog white. 2180 01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:36,400 Speaker 2: These white folks really love their dogs. They like, really 2181 01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:43,000 Speaker 2: love their dogs, says Shauna. They dogged out Lucky, nasty crackers, pedigree, 2182 01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,080 Speaker 2: chum munch and mofos white. The dogs dick was bigger 2183 01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,599 Speaker 2: than her husband's couco white. Oh, my dog loving oppressor. 2184 01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,240 Speaker 2: But what was the dog wearing white? 2185 01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,240 Speaker 3: White? Just because. 2186 01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:58,320 Speaker 2: So far as they didn't get one who kisses their 2187 01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,679 Speaker 2: dog in the mouth anyway to correct it is white. 2188 01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,919 Speaker 3: And looking at that mugshot, looks like some meth was involved. 2189 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:20,599 Speaker 4: Oh my, yeah that picture. 2190 01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that looks that looks a little methy. 2191 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,800 Speaker 2: Like they got some scams or something on their face. 2192 01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:33,200 Speaker 2: He looked like he definitely watched suck the dog dick. 2193 01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,680 Speaker 4: And some other things he was in. 2194 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, uh celerity trainer. Oh wait no, actually I'm 2195 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:45,880 Speaker 2: gonna say this for one. Justin's here, He'll get a 2196 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:46,479 Speaker 2: kick out of that. 2197 01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:52,400 Speaker 3: What about? 2198 01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:54,920 Speaker 2: What is this one? 2199 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:55,400 Speaker 3: All right? 2200 01:50:55,680 --> 01:51:01,240 Speaker 2: A Columbia man allegedly films his and acting sex acts 2201 01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 2: with a dog. Goddamn dogs getting it in this week? 2202 01:51:05,080 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 3: Ain't it seriously? 2203 01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:13,000 Speaker 2: Columbia County man allegedly films his soign okay, Columbia County, Georgia. 2204 01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:14,599 Speaker 3: A man that's been. 2205 01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:18,560 Speaker 2: Arrested on child moless station chargers after allegedly uploading the 2206 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 2: video to YouTube. 2207 01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:24,599 Speaker 3: Showing his fun performed sex acts with a dog on YouTube. 2208 01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,879 Speaker 4: And you think YouTube ain't gonna flag that shit. 2209 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,280 Speaker 2: You gotta go to beastform dot com. Baby, you know 2210 01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:33,800 Speaker 2: that Isaac Seamen, Oh the irony. 2211 01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,639 Speaker 4: That name he was getting all the semen. 2212 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,760 Speaker 5: Oh dog, I know some people listen to this going 2213 01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:46,200 Speaker 5: this dog getting more asked in dogs getting more asked 2214 01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:46,800 Speaker 5: than me this week. 2215 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 4: I understand this. 2216 01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:49,280 Speaker 3: And it's is sick, all right? 2217 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:51,120 Speaker 14: Yes it is. 2218 01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:51,920 Speaker 3: I six. 2219 01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:56,040 Speaker 2: Seamen thirty five was arrested by Columbia County Sheriff I 2220 01:51:56,160 --> 01:52:00,439 Speaker 2: was January thirteenth. He's accused of filming the incident and 2221 01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 2: encouraging it to have it. According to the incident report. 2222 01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,320 Speaker 4: Want you to get smoke, go go go ahead of 2223 01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:08,000 Speaker 4: getting up there. 2224 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:12,760 Speaker 2: The video in question is narrated by Seamen. He responded. 2225 01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:17,439 Speaker 2: He reportedly said on the video that his son and 2226 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,280 Speaker 2: the dog were going to reenact a scene from Broke 2227 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,960 Speaker 2: Back Mountain and then it couraged the dog to start 2228 01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:24,760 Speaker 2: humping the sun. 2229 01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:26,960 Speaker 4: Did you put cowboy hats on too? What the fuck 2230 01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:27,759 Speaker 4: is happening today? 2231 01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 3: First of all, how does the dog know how to 2232 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:32,639 Speaker 3: reenact broke Back Mountain? 2233 01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:32,880 Speaker 15: Right? 2234 01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,360 Speaker 3: The dog been watching the show? Because it said he 2235 01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:36,720 Speaker 3: encouraged the dogs like. 2236 01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:40,960 Speaker 6: Right? 2237 01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:42,759 Speaker 3: Like which scene? 2238 01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:43,920 Speaker 1: Uh? 2239 01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,639 Speaker 2: He's like, I want you to I want you guys 2240 01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:51,080 Speaker 2: to act out a scene from Broke Back Mountain? Which 2241 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:52,360 Speaker 2: scene the world? 2242 01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,400 Speaker 3: He's breaking up with his wife? Or know the humping scene? 2243 01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:57,960 Speaker 3: Come on, you guys know what you're talking about? 2244 01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:58,600 Speaker 6: The right? 2245 01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:00,639 Speaker 4: That's that's all that matters is the humping. 2246 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:06,120 Speaker 2: See look line please uh just tell him you can't 2247 01:53:06,160 --> 01:53:10,519 Speaker 2: quit you and then hump them. Seemen then allegedly told 2248 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,680 Speaker 2: his son to grab the dog's hips and give it 2249 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:17,040 Speaker 2: to him. The video of poorly goes on the show 2250 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:21,000 Speaker 2: Seemen physically masturbating the dog and then telling his son 2251 01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:24,160 Speaker 2: to masturbate the dog. The video says the son did. 2252 01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:28,320 Speaker 2: Seemen then allegedly masturbates the dog a second time. NBC 2253 01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:30,400 Speaker 2: twenty six is not able to confirm whether or not 2254 01:53:30,479 --> 01:53:33,680 Speaker 2: the video was removed from YouTube. Let's all hope it was. 2255 01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:38,320 Speaker 2: No one needs to be watching that ship in their life. 2256 01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:41,719 Speaker 2: And guess the race of Isaac Seamen. 2257 01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:43,799 Speaker 4: Yeah he didn't, didn't. He wouldn't. 2258 01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,080 Speaker 5: He wouldn't at the right site. You know, the dog 2259 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:48,800 Speaker 5: jerking and the horse fucking all that on the same site. 2260 01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,519 Speaker 2: Beesforums dot com is what it sounds like where you 2261 01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:59,920 Speaker 2: needed to go. Maybe it was a cock or spaniel, right, 2262 01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 2: all right, let's shake the I just can't quit you 2263 01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:10,880 Speaker 2: white spaniel and son, both white. Black people would have 2264 01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:15,519 Speaker 2: used world star old yellow humping cave dweller the color seemen. 2265 01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,880 Speaker 2: They did upload the video the world star white, bring 2266 01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 2: out the helmets and bring out the best white Peter 2267 01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:32,200 Speaker 2: and Stuart Griffin abusing Brian damn shame with them crackers 2268 01:54:32,240 --> 01:54:34,920 Speaker 2: did to that dog. The dog only has sex with 2269 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:41,440 Speaker 2: white men because black dicks lowered his industry value. Aaac 2270 01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:45,080 Speaker 2: couldn't believe it had come to this and was salty. 2271 01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:50,720 Speaker 2: He got arrested, evil white colonizers. My couch pulled out, 2272 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:55,800 Speaker 2: But I don't white seeming like a white dude to me. 2273 01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 2: It also seemen like you're ready, yes, ain't no pitbull. 2274 01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:07,680 Speaker 2: White white man thought he was. They were equals. The 2275 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:20,680 Speaker 2: everybody got it right, that right, that's his picture in 2276 01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:25,720 Speaker 2: the chat when he got his dig in his hand 2277 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:31,600 Speaker 2: right there, right, drinking off right now. Yeah, broke back, 2278 01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:36,960 Speaker 2: broke back dog. Luckily he hadn't seen oz. You know, 2279 01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:41,080 Speaker 2: could have been worse. Guys, did they say what happened 2280 01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,720 Speaker 2: to the kid? They would take his kid from him 2281 01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,720 Speaker 2: and the dog, like take all the things that depend 2282 01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:48,960 Speaker 2: on him out of his house. 2283 01:55:49,240 --> 01:55:51,560 Speaker 4: I want to assume he's by hisself now. 2284 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's stop whatever's going on in the household, 2285 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:59,520 Speaker 2: because it doesn't sound like like anything. 2286 01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,760 Speaker 3: Anything good is gonna come of what was going on 2287 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:06,600 Speaker 3: with that man and his house. 2288 01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,520 Speaker 2: Let me see, uh, man is accused of making threats 2289 01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:14,200 Speaker 2: at Jupiter barbershop. 2290 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,600 Speaker 3: Let me see if I can actually find a better 2291 01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,840 Speaker 3: looking article. That's the mobile version. 2292 01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:26,640 Speaker 4: That's the name for a barbershop, Jupiter, Yeah, out of 2293 01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:27,200 Speaker 4: this world? 2294 01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:29,360 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm uh. 2295 01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:34,280 Speaker 2: Hoping to sell some pieces of jewelry Wednesday afternoon, Leslie 2296 01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:40,240 Speaker 2: William decided to try his decided to try his luck 2297 01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:42,840 Speaker 2: at the VIP barbershop in Jupiter time. 2298 01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,000 Speaker 3: Police said, oh shit, not the VIP. But when he 2299 01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 3: was told that his. 2300 01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,560 Speaker 2: Business was not welcome, William's reactor with threats, at one 2301 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:53,879 Speaker 2: point implying he had a gun. According to police reports, 2302 01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:58,320 Speaker 2: was he the dude from that that ghost Face interlude? 2303 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,720 Speaker 3: So throw it out the window. 2304 01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:11,320 Speaker 2: William, forty three, of Hollywood was arrested at charge aggregate. 2305 01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:15,480 Speaker 3: Wait this is Florida. God damn it, Florida. I'm sorry. 2306 01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:16,960 Speaker 4: Oh did you put this the name of the city. 2307 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:18,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that makes sense. 2308 01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:22,560 Speaker 2: Now, so yeah, it was arrested in charge that aggravated 2309 01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:24,680 Speaker 2: us out with the daily weapon. He remained in custody 2310 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,920 Speaker 2: at Palm Beach County Jail late Thursday, a little five 2311 01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,560 Speaker 2: thousand dollars bill. The scene up folded shortly before four 2312 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:33,960 Speaker 2: thirty pm Wednesday at the barber shop located at Green 2313 01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 2: Total Plaza. William left before police arrived, but his rental 2314 01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,600 Speaker 2: car was stopped just as he entered the southbound. 2315 01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:45,040 Speaker 3: On ramp from Indian Town to Interstate for ninety five. 2316 01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:49,360 Speaker 2: According to witness accounts provided to police, William was outside 2317 01:57:49,440 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 2: the barber shop trying to sell gold chains. When a 2318 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:55,200 Speaker 2: barber asked him to leave, william allegedly walked into the 2319 01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:56,440 Speaker 2: barbershop moments later. 2320 01:57:56,280 --> 01:58:01,920 Speaker 3: That made threatening statements, what the fuck come on? Man 2321 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,800 Speaker 3: got it off? White folks, saying bucket, makehead. 2322 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:10,200 Speaker 4: I got that going, got a twenty fourth carried gold. 2323 01:58:11,080 --> 01:58:14,560 Speaker 2: One person told police that William reached into his pocket 2324 01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:15,800 Speaker 2: and slightly pulled out. 2325 01:58:15,720 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 3: What appeared to be the handle of a chrome and gun. 2326 01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:20,920 Speaker 2: Others said William implott he had a weapon, might either 2327 01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:23,080 Speaker 2: placing his hand on his hip or placing his hand 2328 01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:27,200 Speaker 2: in his pocket. After Williams car would stop, police searched him, 2329 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:31,120 Speaker 2: his car and surrounding grassy burned, but did not find 2330 01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:35,560 Speaker 2: a weapon. Officers did find eight thousand dollars in Williams's pocket, 2331 01:58:36,000 --> 01:58:40,680 Speaker 2: which he explained came from lottery winnings. While speaking to officers, 2332 01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:45,560 Speaker 2: Williams reported that he sells costume jewelry that he purchases 2333 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,680 Speaker 2: from a fashion outlet. Williams told officers that there was 2334 01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:51,920 Speaker 2: a barber who threatened him, has said he left moments later. 2335 01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,480 Speaker 2: William reported Lee denied having made any threats or implot 2336 01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:58,280 Speaker 2: that he had a gun. Guess the race of Leslie 2337 01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:02,640 Speaker 2: William hustleman. Check the chat room, see what they say. 2338 01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 2: It's like he was the bootleg man too. Probably could 2339 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:08,080 Speaker 2: have got some DVDs. He will just left them alone. 2340 01:59:10,680 --> 01:59:14,160 Speaker 2: I think one who will forget about the iron chains 2341 01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:18,280 Speaker 2: if you buy these gold chains, Black said Ja. He 2342 01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:22,920 Speaker 2: also sold bootleg copies of Selma Too. Black Selma Too. 2343 01:59:27,760 --> 01:59:29,600 Speaker 4: I was like the press w was just come out. 2344 01:59:29,640 --> 01:59:30,560 Speaker 4: I got the second one. 2345 01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:36,600 Speaker 3: Some of two, Oh nigga, some of two n tyres. 2346 01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:40,400 Speaker 2: That was That was AHC that said that you trying 2347 01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:44,040 Speaker 2: to get these bevel razors though, Black says, Lex you 2348 01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:47,919 Speaker 2: know they sell fake jewelry. We bootleg vhs and hairwave 2349 01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:52,360 Speaker 2: at the barbershop. Darky June bugs Pade had has fallen 2350 01:59:52,440 --> 01:59:53,400 Speaker 2: on hard times. 2351 01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,480 Speaker 3: This nigga crime. This a nigga crime. 2352 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:59,720 Speaker 2: Black, missus Spencin's I got some real fine persona personal 2353 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:00,720 Speaker 2: t gene equipment. 2354 02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 3: Here stole Prince of King's luggage. 2355 02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:08,120 Speaker 4: Black stand outside of mcdowalls. 2356 02:00:09,560 --> 02:00:12,360 Speaker 2: J T D says hood Ridge porch monkey that made 2357 02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:16,280 Speaker 2: his fortune from selling bootleg copies of Selman recognized Tay 2358 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:18,360 Speaker 2: said in my hustle man voice, pick. 2359 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,960 Speaker 3: Up the pieces. Black. My t Sharp. 2360 02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Was old shop named black. Uh and oh my t 2361 02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:32,520 Speaker 2: shark okay and moon cricket, said SHAWNA. And he also 2362 02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:37,280 Speaker 2: sold pigeons on the stick. I think everybody got this 2363 02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:50,400 Speaker 2: one too. It's black, it's black, all right. We also 2364 02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:54,000 Speaker 2: got let's go to the bonus round here. Let's go 2365 02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:55,000 Speaker 2: to the bonus round. 2366 02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Double the point, saying the race, double up, saying the race. 2367 02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,800 Speaker 2: That's right, bonus round to guess the race where everything's 2368 02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:14,240 Speaker 2: worth double the points, double the racism. So far, everybody 2369 02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:16,600 Speaker 2: seems to be about three for three, right, everybody's one 2370 02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:20,480 Speaker 2: hundred yep, So let's go. I just liked that dude 2371 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 2: threatening the damn barbershop, Like, what what the fucking point 2372 02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:23,760 Speaker 2: was that? 2373 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:24,760 Speaker 8: Right? 2374 02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:25,720 Speaker 3: You wrong man? 2375 02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:26,160 Speaker 12: Right? 2376 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:28,240 Speaker 4: You can't be solicited in front of his shop? 2377 02:01:28,520 --> 02:01:28,680 Speaker 3: Right? 2378 02:01:29,440 --> 02:01:33,800 Speaker 2: Oh so, y'all motherfuckers ain't gonna let me sell illegally 2379 02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:34,640 Speaker 2: out here. 2380 02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:37,560 Speaker 5: You can't be harassing our business people if I got 2381 02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:39,640 Speaker 5: no solicitor size everywhere anyway. 2382 02:01:39,640 --> 02:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's see here. 2383 02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Uh. A Georgia mom was shocked by a video that 2384 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,320 Speaker 2: shows a teacher choking the eleven year old boy. 2385 02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:56,160 Speaker 9: Oh my mm hmmm, we've got some disturbing new video 2386 02:01:56,280 --> 02:01:58,880 Speaker 9: to show you now that you'll only see here this morning, 2387 02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:01,920 Speaker 9: So dad, cap teacher placing a young student into what 2388 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,280 Speaker 9: appears to be a choke hold. 2389 02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:06,000 Speaker 16: You can see her pull him out of his out 2390 02:02:06,040 --> 02:02:07,760 Speaker 16: of his chair. Take a look at the video here, 2391 02:02:08,040 --> 02:02:10,960 Speaker 16: pulling him out of his chair over here, then dragging 2392 02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:13,440 Speaker 16: him across the cafeteria floor in what appears to be 2393 02:02:13,840 --> 02:02:18,800 Speaker 16: a choke hold, lifting him off the ground. Well, this morning, 2394 02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:22,760 Speaker 16: the teacher will be back in Pleasantdale Elementary School teaching 2395 02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 16: her class. Blaine, Alexander, the holding the powerful accountable this morning. 2396 02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:29,000 Speaker 16: So Blaine, there's a lot to this story, obviously there's 2397 02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:31,840 Speaker 16: there's at least two sides to it. How did all 2398 02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:32,280 Speaker 16: this start? 2399 02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:37,520 Speaker 7: Well, then he according to other students and teachers in 2400 02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:40,160 Speaker 7: the room, they say that this child was being disruptive, 2401 02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:43,000 Speaker 7: he was misbehaving. That teacher went to move him from 2402 02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,520 Speaker 7: the group, and that's when it escalated from there. Now, 2403 02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,760 Speaker 7: this happened back in May of twenty fourteen, and that 2404 02:02:47,880 --> 02:02:50,880 Speaker 7: teacher was disciplined, But it was months before the district 2405 02:02:51,040 --> 02:02:53,960 Speaker 7: turned over that surveillance video to the child's mother and 2406 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:58,720 Speaker 7: she saw what happened firsthand. Jaquita Hanley says she didn't 2407 02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:02,440 Speaker 7: realize how bad it was until she saw the surveillance video. 2408 02:03:02,760 --> 02:03:03,360 Speaker 4: I saw it. 2409 02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:08,400 Speaker 10: And my heart just drop. It's nothing any parent wants 2410 02:03:08,480 --> 02:03:10,200 Speaker 10: to see their child go through. 2411 02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,320 Speaker 4: The video starts off in the cafeteria. 2412 02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:14,800 Speaker 7: There you see eleven year old Ray Vaughn in the 2413 02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:18,200 Speaker 7: white shirt, sitting at the table when teacher Stephanie Fleet 2414 02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:21,360 Speaker 7: comes up and snatches his chair from behind him. The 2415 02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:24,240 Speaker 7: video shows things start to escalate from there. 2416 02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:27,760 Speaker 10: She's choking him from behind, and she's walking with him 2417 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,000 Speaker 10: choking him. At the same time, my son's feet were 2418 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:34,120 Speaker 10: lifted to the tip of his toes because of the 2419 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,560 Speaker 10: force she used around my son's neck, pulling back on 2420 02:03:37,680 --> 02:03:38,520 Speaker 10: my son's neck. 2421 02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:41,840 Speaker 7: The video continues in the hallway, where two teachers escort 2422 02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,120 Speaker 7: the boy to the front office. But according to witness statements, 2423 02:03:45,240 --> 02:03:48,600 Speaker 7: what the video does not show the student was misbehaving, 2424 02:03:48,960 --> 02:03:52,600 Speaker 7: using profanity, even threatening to hit his teacher. In her 2425 02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:55,400 Speaker 7: written statement to the district, Fleet set in part, he 2426 02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:58,160 Speaker 7: raised his hand to hit me. Then of the restraint 2427 02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:01,440 Speaker 7: caught on camera, I thought this was an acceptable defensive 2428 02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:04,800 Speaker 7: hold for a student. After a district investigation, Fleet was 2429 02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:08,200 Speaker 7: disciplined a three day suspension without pay placed on a 2430 02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:11,240 Speaker 7: professional development plan and a letter of reprimand. 2431 02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:15,040 Speaker 4: But after seeing the video, Hanley says that's not enough. 2432 02:04:15,320 --> 02:04:17,680 Speaker 10: She choked someone else's child and she's able to go 2433 02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:20,640 Speaker 10: back into the same building and teach. If it was 2434 02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,400 Speaker 10: me choking my own child caught on tape, there's no 2435 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:26,280 Speaker 10: way that my two kids would still be in his 2436 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:26,880 Speaker 10: house with me. 2437 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:28,760 Speaker 4: She should not be teaching. 2438 02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:31,160 Speaker 6: Now. 2439 02:04:31,200 --> 02:04:33,000 Speaker 7: We reached out to that teacher for comment, but we 2440 02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:34,960 Speaker 7: did not get a response. But I do want to 2441 02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:37,520 Speaker 7: share a response that we got from Dacab County School District. 2442 02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:40,280 Speaker 7: Here's what spokesperson Quinn Hudson told me. In part, he 2443 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,880 Speaker 7: said quote following an investigation, the Dacab County School District 2444 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:47,800 Speaker 7: Office of Legal Affairs supports the principal's recommendation that Miss 2445 02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:50,800 Speaker 7: Stephanie Fleet remain at Pleasantdale Elementary School. 2446 02:04:50,880 --> 02:04:53,240 Speaker 16: Benny Blaine, We're gonna show part of the video against 2447 02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:55,040 Speaker 16: whe people can see what we're talking about. As the 2448 02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:59,000 Speaker 16: teacher drags the child across. Here's the question, why are 2449 02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:00,320 Speaker 16: we seeing this video now, because this. 2450 02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:01,600 Speaker 3: All happened back in May. 2451 02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:05,040 Speaker 16: Why is the video coming out now in January? 2452 02:05:07,320 --> 02:05:09,120 Speaker 7: And that's a great question to ask Vinnie and you know, 2453 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,240 Speaker 7: it happened back in May, but the mother asked for 2454 02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:13,720 Speaker 7: their video back then, they couldn't release it because it 2455 02:05:13,800 --> 02:05:15,880 Speaker 7: was an investigation, and then she went through the open 2456 02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,680 Speaker 7: records process to get it. She said that she finally 2457 02:05:18,760 --> 02:05:21,160 Speaker 7: got it in late November. Now, we do want to 2458 02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:22,840 Speaker 7: point out that she said that she reached out. She 2459 02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:26,120 Speaker 7: wanted to share this story because she's concerned that parents 2460 02:05:26,240 --> 02:05:29,080 Speaker 7: who have kids in that class currently don't know what 2461 02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,280 Speaker 7: happened last year. So that's why she wanted to make 2462 02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:33,880 Speaker 7: her story known, to make everybody aware of what happened. 2463 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:37,280 Speaker 16: Now in the video, also you see her dragging the child, 2464 02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:39,560 Speaker 16: but then you see two other teachers bringing the child 2465 02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:40,400 Speaker 16: into the office. 2466 02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:42,120 Speaker 3: What happened in between, do we know? 2467 02:05:45,200 --> 02:05:48,080 Speaker 7: Well, in a couple of witness statements that we read, 2468 02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:50,560 Speaker 7: we saw that the child fell and hit his head. 2469 02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:52,800 Speaker 7: There's also a couple of statements that say both of 2470 02:05:52,840 --> 02:05:54,520 Speaker 7: them kind of fell but in some sort of way 2471 02:05:54,640 --> 02:05:57,240 Speaker 7: the child hit his head or says that he was injured. 2472 02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:58,840 Speaker 7: They took him to the office to be checked out. 2473 02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,200 Speaker 7: There was an incident report or however, the officer said 2474 02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,600 Speaker 7: that he didn't notice any sort of injuries on the child. 2475 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:04,680 Speaker 7: When he inspected him. 2476 02:06:05,000 --> 02:06:07,880 Speaker 16: All right, Len Alexander the cab this morning, thanks so much, Blake. 2477 02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:12,680 Speaker 2: All right, So guess the race of the mother of 2478 02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:15,000 Speaker 2: the kid. All right, guys, that's what we're resting the 2479 02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,600 Speaker 2: rights of. Uh because I can't tell the teacher from 2480 02:06:17,640 --> 02:06:20,440 Speaker 2: that far away. But guess the race of the mother 2481 02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:22,520 Speaker 2: of the kid. Let's check the chat room and see 2482 02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:27,040 Speaker 2: what they believe. Lady of Rage went and got her 2483 02:06:27,120 --> 02:06:32,680 Speaker 2: teaching certificate. Black, No, not the teacher, everybody, I gotta 2484 02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:33,600 Speaker 2: wait for them to catch up. 2485 02:06:33,640 --> 02:06:34,120 Speaker 3: I guess. 2486 02:06:35,600 --> 02:06:38,040 Speaker 2: Only white people had ability to play someone in the 2487 02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:40,720 Speaker 2: choke hold and Gradaville. Okay, all right, Mama Black, there 2488 02:06:40,760 --> 02:06:45,520 Speaker 2: we go, ray von Nigga, you already know join collector. 2489 02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:48,040 Speaker 3: That's Brandon Apa. 2490 02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:48,840 Speaker 6: Uh. 2491 02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:52,560 Speaker 2: Well, he shouldn't have been resistant had his parents pulled 2492 02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,960 Speaker 2: up black mother that didn't raise a child, right, yeah, 2493 02:06:56,000 --> 02:06:56,960 Speaker 2: he must have had dreads. 2494 02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:59,720 Speaker 3: Right, Mama is black? Oh that's easy. Mama is black? 2495 02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:02,840 Speaker 3: Your son get choked to saw the teacher keep a job? Black? 2496 02:07:02,960 --> 02:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Says Lex. The correct answer is, and uh it looks 2497 02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:10,760 Speaker 3: like h see such since the kids sold, Lucy's teacher 2498 02:07:10,920 --> 02:07:23,920 Speaker 3: justified it. Damn track, that's black and here's our picture 2499 02:07:25,440 --> 02:07:28,040 Speaker 3: in the chat. But oh, that's not the right picture. 2500 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:30,920 Speaker 3: He happened to the bit. Oh I didn't click on it. 2501 02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:32,720 Speaker 3: That's why give me one second. We go here. 2502 02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,920 Speaker 2: But uh yeah, man, that's that's crazy that you can 2503 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,560 Speaker 2: just get your job. And and for the record, y'all 2504 02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:42,040 Speaker 2: know how I feel about y'all's kids. Y'all kids ain't shit. 2505 02:07:42,240 --> 02:07:46,080 Speaker 2: So I I do think that the kid probably was 2506 02:07:46,160 --> 02:07:50,080 Speaker 2: acting a fucking fool, and it's easy for us to. 2507 02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,000 Speaker 3: Sit here and be like, well, just talk to him 2508 02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:52,600 Speaker 3: or whatever. 2509 02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't know how to discipline your little bad ass 2510 02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:59,160 Speaker 2: fucking kids, like everybody mama sound reasonable when when the 2511 02:07:59,240 --> 02:08:02,040 Speaker 2: kid ain't acting up right behind him, you know. But 2512 02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I but at the same time, seemed like a choke hold, 2513 02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,240 Speaker 2: kind of a no no, no, no, you don't choke. 2514 02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:12,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's in the teacher's handbook, because. 2515 02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:13,840 Speaker 4: Like she said, if she choked her child, she'd be 2516 02:08:13,960 --> 02:08:16,040 Speaker 4: in jail and her children and be with her right. 2517 02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gotta be something between a choke hold and 2518 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:22,840 Speaker 2: fucking doing nothing that that occurs, you know. I mean, I, 2519 02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:25,200 Speaker 2: like I said, I know it's easier said than done, 2520 02:08:26,320 --> 02:08:29,240 Speaker 2: but damn you know, we can't. We can't accept this, 2521 02:08:30,440 --> 02:08:33,280 Speaker 2: like once teachers start becoming the vigilantis and ship. 2522 02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:34,720 Speaker 4: It's the problem. 2523 02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, last story. We'll do one more. I'm 2524 02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,920 Speaker 3: enjoying these guests, the races. That's a bit fun. 2525 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:45,960 Speaker 2: A man threw a pie at a woman who wouldn't 2526 02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:50,440 Speaker 2: support his nicotine can have it. Police arrested the man 2527 02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:55,160 Speaker 2: Friday and there Clacking Area restaurant, of course, accusing him 2528 02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:57,840 Speaker 2: of throwing a pie at a woman who refused to 2529 02:08:57,920 --> 02:08:58,520 Speaker 2: give him. 2530 02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:02,240 Speaker 4: A a pie. You know who's gonna be mad here 2531 02:09:02,280 --> 02:09:06,000 Speaker 4: in this deck to Yeah, oh man, you're gonna be 2532 02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:12,640 Speaker 4: like wasting up perfectly good pie. Yeah, smacked the table 2533 02:09:12,680 --> 02:09:15,440 Speaker 4: with his bad head right now, Yeah, listening to it 2534 02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:16,080 Speaker 4: is a pie. 2535 02:09:17,080 --> 02:09:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably u if he was throwing piles at people, Like, 2536 02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:24,600 Speaker 2: was he like a fucking like a clown or something like? 2537 02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:27,520 Speaker 4: All right, we gonna fall in with what's happening. 2538 02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, end up throwing a fucking clown like, Oh, I'll 2539 02:09:31,640 --> 02:09:35,160 Speaker 2: just throw a pile that's made of nothing but whip 2540 02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:36,000 Speaker 2: cream with your ass. 2541 02:09:36,080 --> 02:09:37,200 Speaker 3: You want to buy me this, lucy. 2542 02:09:41,520 --> 02:09:44,440 Speaker 2: The woman was not injured, but had the clean peach 2543 02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:49,560 Speaker 2: pie feeling off her ear Oh. Sergeant Dan kraus Oh, 2544 02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:52,520 Speaker 2: the Clackaman's County Sharries Office spokesman, said a man approached 2545 02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,800 Speaker 2: a woman at Southeast eighty second Avenue around eight am 2546 02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,400 Speaker 2: asked her for a cigarette, but she refused. A man 2547 02:09:58,440 --> 02:10:01,520 Speaker 2: became agitated. He go really mad and started yelling. Then 2548 02:10:01,560 --> 02:10:04,640 Speaker 2: he wound up and threw a pie her. After receiving 2549 02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:06,800 Speaker 2: a nine one one called debuties ride quickly. 2550 02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:09,000 Speaker 3: What was that called? 2551 02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:09,120 Speaker 8: Like? 2552 02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:09,880 Speaker 6: Hell? 2553 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:12,680 Speaker 3: I got pied in my face? I'm alerted? 2554 02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:17,400 Speaker 4: The peachie's this apple? Oh no, I got hit in 2555 02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,160 Speaker 4: the face with a pie. It ain't a cream pie? 2556 02:10:19,400 --> 02:10:22,920 Speaker 2: Right, And while police were there, they tried to assault 2557 02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:25,400 Speaker 2: her again. He tried to sault her again. He charged 2558 02:10:25,480 --> 02:10:28,040 Speaker 2: at her right in front of the deputies. The deputy 2559 02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:29,360 Speaker 2: in the set to the man, threw him to the 2560 02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 2: ground using a hip ro then handcuffed him. Joel David Little, 2561 02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:38,440 Speaker 2: Master's twenty six, who gave no permanent address, was booked 2562 02:10:38,480 --> 02:10:41,720 Speaker 2: in the Clackamans County Jail on suspicions of harassment, criminal mischief, 2563 02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:44,200 Speaker 2: and violating parole from a previous conviction. 2564 02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:45,960 Speaker 3: He is being held without bell and. 2565 02:10:46,000 --> 02:10:49,680 Speaker 2: The scheduled to be arranged Monday in Clackhamu's County Circuit Court, 2566 02:10:50,320 --> 02:10:53,120 Speaker 2: and looking at his picture, they clearly roughed him up 2567 02:10:53,160 --> 02:10:57,120 Speaker 2: a little bit, tied him a lesson. Yes, the race 2568 02:10:57,240 --> 02:11:02,440 Speaker 2: of mister Joel David Masters twenty six years old. Let's 2569 02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:05,880 Speaker 2: check the chat room see what they believe. The race 2570 02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:10,560 Speaker 2: of mister La Masters will be ugh like moving a 2571 02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:14,800 Speaker 2: little slow. Take your time is slow, clacamans, that's the 2572 02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:18,360 Speaker 2: crazy ratchet part of Portland. White and crazy three names, 2573 02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:22,600 Speaker 2: Selma fact checkers charging the victim. 2574 02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:23,520 Speaker 3: And not getting shot. White. 2575 02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:27,280 Speaker 2: He ain't my la master of white says, just read 2576 02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:30,440 Speaker 2: the APA, says Barty ingredients with his food stamp, so 2577 02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:34,760 Speaker 2: he didn't care. Coop smoking coat forty five drinking black Jesus, 2578 02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:38,400 Speaker 2: he wouldn't dare throw the pumpkin pie that was next 2579 02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:43,760 Speaker 2: to the peach one white rick fla that's ah c 2580 02:11:43,960 --> 02:11:48,680 Speaker 2: rick flair voice, pie throwing crystals, Oh pie throwing crystal 2581 02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:53,840 Speaker 2: mass smoking cop dodging son of a gun whoo yep uh. 2582 02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:59,400 Speaker 2: Black Row says it wasn't sweet potato pot so white, whole, wholesome, 2583 02:11:59,440 --> 02:12:02,480 Speaker 2: white boy, his name is Joe, whiter than the paper. 2584 02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:07,000 Speaker 2: My cheek checks come on as SHAWNA says, impossible, white man, 2585 02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:10,160 Speaker 2: and where the hell did he get that pie? The 2586 02:12:10,280 --> 02:12:13,720 Speaker 2: correct answer is and uh, most of you guys got it. 2587 02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:17,960 Speaker 3: He was a white man. He was very possible because 2588 02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:18,440 Speaker 3: he got caught. 2589 02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:22,800 Speaker 4: He'd have been impossible if it did get caught. 2590 02:12:30,080 --> 02:12:40,720 Speaker 2: I think finally we got one person to miss man 2591 02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:45,080 Speaker 2: throwing a pie at somebody that's that's crazy. 2592 02:12:45,120 --> 02:12:46,440 Speaker 3: Can give him a piece of your mind, not a 2593 02:12:46,480 --> 02:12:47,160 Speaker 3: piece of the pie. 2594 02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:47,400 Speaker 6: Man. 2595 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:49,440 Speaker 4: I know you're supposed to eat the pie. 2596 02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:50,920 Speaker 3: I want to. It is the devil's pie. 2597 02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:53,320 Speaker 4: It was something I hope, I hope it wouldn't know 2598 02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:54,960 Speaker 4: world famous pie, no ship like that. 2599 02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:58,280 Speaker 5: Come on, and of course, and you know what, and 2600 02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:00,920 Speaker 5: you know what wouldn't black because man, you smack somebody 2601 02:13:00,960 --> 02:13:03,040 Speaker 5: with a sweeper tato pie, you start a fucking records, 2602 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:04,960 Speaker 5: they'll beat you up for wasting the pie. 2603 02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, sweep pie not gonna just go peacefully either. It's 2604 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:09,560 Speaker 3: got some weight to it. 2605 02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:14,080 Speaker 4: Yes, in every black household. 2606 02:13:17,000 --> 02:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Sored racks times everybody. That's right, he's dead now, Yes 2607 02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:45,880 Speaker 2: he is. Uh, Saint Alban's main a central main man man. 2608 02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:47,720 Speaker 3: I was about to say central. 2609 02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Main main like goose man a Central Main man was 2610 02:13:52,040 --> 02:13:56,840 Speaker 2: arrested in my main Man, my shot, I'm sorry. Central 2611 02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Main Man was arrested and charge of domestic violence, assault 2612 02:13:59,760 --> 02:14:02,600 Speaker 2: and gated cruelty the animals after debuty say he attacked 2613 02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:05,160 Speaker 2: a bulldog with a sword as a dog tried to 2614 02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:09,080 Speaker 2: defend the man's wife during a domestic assault. Oh my yeah, 2615 02:14:09,160 --> 02:14:12,880 Speaker 2: man man's best friend betrayed him and went with woman. 2616 02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:16,280 Speaker 2: The Somerset County Sheriff's Office said just at the eight 2617 02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:20,520 Speaker 2: pm Saturday, they responded to the home at the address 2618 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,360 Speaker 2: I don't care and said an investigation revealed that Bruce Bennett, 2619 02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:28,320 Speaker 2: thirty three, assaulted his wife and that the family bulldog, Malachi, 2620 02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:32,840 Speaker 2: defended ben hiss wife. Debuty said Bennett then attacked dog 2621 02:14:33,000 --> 02:14:35,040 Speaker 2: with the sword that was about two and a half 2622 02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:38,880 Speaker 2: feet long. Debuties took the bulldog to meadow Wood Animal 2623 02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:41,520 Speaker 2: Clinic in Cornville, where doctor Michael Winge took care of 2624 02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:44,640 Speaker 2: the dog. The Sheriff's office said it took about two 2625 02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:47,440 Speaker 2: hours to suit youre the wounds, which are described as 2626 02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:51,480 Speaker 2: severe and near the head area. Ben Is domestic violence 2627 02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:54,040 Speaker 2: assault charge was upgraded to a felony because of past 2628 02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:58,000 Speaker 2: convictions of domestic violence Bennett was at Somerset County Jail 2629 02:14:58,040 --> 02:14:59,880 Speaker 2: on probation hold on Monday. 2630 02:15:01,200 --> 02:15:03,760 Speaker 3: Killed the dog, I mean, stabbed the doll with the sword. 2631 02:15:04,600 --> 02:15:06,320 Speaker 4: Dogs having a rough day to day, ain't it. 2632 02:15:07,560 --> 02:15:10,600 Speaker 2: You just never know, man, People turn on the people 2633 02:15:10,640 --> 02:15:12,800 Speaker 2: closest to him with those swords. Man, It's like when 2634 02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:14,760 Speaker 2: people turn in the vampires. They eat the ones they 2635 02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:19,600 Speaker 2: love first. A man's best friend, woman's best friend, apparently 2636 02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:22,480 Speaker 2: because he was trying to save it from that dude 2637 02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:26,000 Speaker 2: with the sword. I mean, how I'm between the person 2638 02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:27,840 Speaker 2: with the sword. I mean even the dogs smart enough 2639 02:15:27,840 --> 02:15:32,160 Speaker 2: to know that that ain't good, you know. In India, 2640 02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:37,960 Speaker 2: Gumar Village in Narendra Nigar area, known for his picturesque 2641 02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:42,080 Speaker 2: locations and negligible crime rate, was left shocked on Saturday 2642 02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,200 Speaker 2: when a thirty year old local youth allegedly killed his mother, 2643 02:15:45,320 --> 02:15:50,040 Speaker 2: brother and sister in law with the sword. The whole 2644 02:15:50,120 --> 02:15:54,480 Speaker 2: family wow at the committing, one of the most heinous 2645 02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:57,360 Speaker 2: crimes witnessed in the district. The youth, son Jay Singh, 2646 02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:01,520 Speaker 2: locked himself inside of the house and threatened to kill 2647 02:16:01,600 --> 02:16:04,120 Speaker 2: himself if the police officials tried to arrest him. 2648 02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:06,720 Speaker 3: At the time of going to press, the housage drama 2649 02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:07,520 Speaker 3: was continuing. 2650 02:16:08,120 --> 02:16:10,840 Speaker 2: The triple murder was reported around eleven thirty am after 2651 02:16:10,920 --> 02:16:14,040 Speaker 2: the accused locked himself inside the house. Police teams courting 2652 02:16:14,120 --> 02:16:18,440 Speaker 2: the house and are negotiating with the accused. According to sources, 2653 02:16:18,520 --> 02:16:22,240 Speaker 2: Scene was annoyed over some issue and chased his minor nephew, 2654 02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:25,000 Speaker 2: brandishing the sword. In the open area outside the two 2655 02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:28,920 Speaker 2: story residents, Singh caught hold of a boy and tried 2656 02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:32,120 Speaker 2: to kill him. When Singingh's mother and Mina Devi tried 2657 02:16:32,160 --> 02:16:35,400 Speaker 2: to intervene, he struck her with a sharp edge weapon, 2658 02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:38,960 Speaker 2: killing her on the spot. On hearing the noise, the 2659 02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:42,280 Speaker 2: boy's mother, Kanta rushed to the spot, only to be 2660 02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:46,520 Speaker 2: murdered in a similar manner. Whitnessing the blood shed, the 2661 02:16:46,560 --> 02:16:49,040 Speaker 2: boy's father, Chander rushed to the rescue of his son. 2662 02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:52,600 Speaker 2: Though Chander managed to save the child, he fell down 2663 02:16:52,720 --> 02:16:55,920 Speaker 2: to repeat it blows made by the sword. All three 2664 02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:59,640 Speaker 2: died on the spot as the locals had gathered outside 2665 02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:01,760 Speaker 2: the house by then, Seeing rushed inside the house and 2666 02:17:01,840 --> 02:17:04,480 Speaker 2: locked it from the inside. He held a country made 2667 02:17:04,560 --> 02:17:07,000 Speaker 2: pistol in one hand and the sword in the other 2668 02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,120 Speaker 2: and threatened to kill himself if anyone tried to enter 2669 02:17:09,160 --> 02:17:14,160 Speaker 2: the house. On getting information of a team of policemen 2670 02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:17,119 Speaker 2: and district officials reached the spot and began negotiations with Sing. 2671 02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:21,800 Speaker 2: While locals claim that Sing was not mentally sound, police 2672 02:17:22,040 --> 02:17:24,840 Speaker 2: officials said the way he negotiated terms of his release 2673 02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:27,920 Speaker 2: with them didn't show this. So yeah, he got real 2674 02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:29,720 Speaker 2: smart when it was time to save his own life. 2675 02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:33,560 Speaker 2: The subdivision magistrate and the rinder the guard managed Kumar 2676 02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:38,960 Speaker 2: told TOI they he killed three family members with a 2677 02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:42,320 Speaker 2: sword before locking himself in the room. Kamar maintained that 2678 02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:47,000 Speaker 2: prima facie is prima facie has appeared. It appeared that 2679 02:17:47,240 --> 02:17:50,680 Speaker 2: scene has no mental problems. I don't know what prima 2680 02:17:50,720 --> 02:17:54,480 Speaker 2: facie is. Face he is sounds like a Latin term 2681 02:17:54,640 --> 02:18:00,520 Speaker 2: though means first something. Oh, first impression. All right, I 2682 02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:03,240 Speaker 2: took a little bit of Latin uh in high school, 2683 02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:06,440 Speaker 2: but I don't remember what face he was fast he was, 2684 02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,560 Speaker 2: so yeah, first impressions, which probably means translate something like 2685 02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:11,360 Speaker 2: first face. 2686 02:18:11,720 --> 02:18:15,160 Speaker 3: I bet when we are when we. 2687 02:18:15,240 --> 02:18:17,680 Speaker 2: Are switching off the lights outside the house, he is 2688 02:18:17,720 --> 02:18:19,880 Speaker 2: switching off the lights of the house so that no 2689 02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:20,840 Speaker 2: one can see inside. 2690 02:18:20,879 --> 02:18:21,640 Speaker 3: In a playing manner. 2691 02:18:21,680 --> 02:18:23,560 Speaker 2: He is building pressure on us to leave the area, 2692 02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:26,320 Speaker 2: which can give him an opportunity to escape. The SDM 2693 02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:30,040 Speaker 2: maintained that a case could not be found as the 2694 02:18:30,280 --> 02:18:33,400 Speaker 2: entire police team was in the village to convince Singh 2695 02:18:33,440 --> 02:18:34,000 Speaker 2: to surrender. 2696 02:18:34,560 --> 02:18:37,119 Speaker 3: When contact contacted, uh. 2697 02:18:38,480 --> 02:18:44,160 Speaker 2: SP Terry marktur Mosen uh said that deadlock was being 2698 02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:47,360 Speaker 2: handled by the Revenue police team. However, we are prepared 2699 02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:49,520 Speaker 2: for the matter and if any help is saw, our 2700 02:18:49,600 --> 02:18:54,680 Speaker 2: team would be rushed there and killed everybody that loved 2701 02:18:54,760 --> 02:18:56,280 Speaker 2: him and said there and the little boy got away, 2702 02:18:56,320 --> 02:18:57,840 Speaker 2: but now he ain't got no family. 2703 02:18:59,560 --> 02:18:59,920 Speaker 3: Anyway. 2704 02:19:00,120 --> 02:19:00,280 Speaker 6: Man. 2705 02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:03,160 Speaker 2: That's been a det for this episode. The Black Autemps 2706 02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:05,360 Speaker 2: will be back tomorrow for the last episode of the week. 2707 02:19:06,120 --> 02:19:08,720 Speaker 2: If everything goes off as planning, Justin should be here 2708 02:19:08,840 --> 02:19:12,360 Speaker 2: so you guys will get some Justin this week this Wednesday, Man, 2709 02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:16,160 Speaker 2: until tomorrow, make sure you guys go to Tweakdaudio dot 2710 02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:21,400 Speaker 2: com Co, TBGWT hookie sweet up for February for Valentine's Day. 2711 02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:24,800 Speaker 3: We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Until then, I love 2712 02:19:24,840 --> 02:19:24,880 Speaker 3: you