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Speaker 1: I know you haven't wanted to talk about this for

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Speaker 1: a while because you were concentrating on the season. Now

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Speaker 1: that the season is over, Um, is this a tough

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Speaker 1: day for you? Leaving the Giants without a contract. Do

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Speaker 1: you think you'll be back? Uh? Do you want to

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Speaker 1: be back? Could you use a fresh start? You know?

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts right now? Um? No, I mean

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it a tough day. Uh, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: Uh the season ending obviously, wish that we were still going. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, um, clean out lockers isn't really fun, but

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Speaker 1: saying go boys and um, hanging with the guys a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. Um, it's it's been fun. So um,

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Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff is again I'm gonna always

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Speaker 1: say it's eye our control and well kind of isn't

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Speaker 1: my control, but um that everything will come with time.

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Speaker 1: So um, nothing no hard decisions right now. UM, just

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Speaker 1: kind of just going with the flow. Thanks. You look

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Speaker 1: at the possibility to the free agency, like what's what's

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Speaker 1: your approach to it? And that that's yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: weird because I literally have I have no idea what

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Speaker 1: to expect or um, I don't even really know the

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Speaker 1: process by agents. We've kind of talked some things about

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Speaker 1: us to come and conversations that will start having. But um,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. And he before I mean, would

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Speaker 1: you like to return? I mean how how are you

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Speaker 1: gonna balance that? Obviously you know what the team has

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Speaker 1: really to offer, the new GM factors that factor into it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I'll be blessed to be back in the

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Speaker 1: Giants uniform a hundred percent. But um, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that need to get figured out. UM, and

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Speaker 1: and the conversations that need to that need to be

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Speaker 1: started and talked about, and um, and whatever happens happens. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I've been good to see you. Good to see you too.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not want to make excuses, but when

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Speaker 1: you look back over your career here at the Giants,

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Speaker 1: you had I think something like four different offensive play callers,

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Speaker 1: You had a couple of different coaches at your position.

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Speaker 1: How difficult was that for you in retrospect as far

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Speaker 1: as your development was being pulled in so many different directions. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was the it was just it was just adjustments

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Speaker 1: for me. Um. Just definitely it would have been it

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Speaker 1: would be nice to stay in one offense and not

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Speaker 1: have to go through that. Um. That's obviously that makes

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Speaker 1: things difficult having for play callers and things like that.

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Speaker 1: But UM, it was just it was just an adjustment

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Speaker 1: for me and something that I took head on. UM.

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Speaker 1: And like you said, there's no excuses. I'll never blame

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Speaker 1: anything on that. Um. We still we still were on

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Speaker 1: the field. Players are called, and that ball was still

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Speaker 1: in the air, that ball was still on the ground.

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Speaker 1: So UM, we still had to go out there executing

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Speaker 1: no matter what. But it was just more of an adjustment.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't say it was difficult. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Kim Jones. Hey, Evan, it's Kim. How are you. Evan.

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Speaker 1: I still remember standing in that locker room with you

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Speaker 1: and O'Dell was on a scooter and you had made

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Speaker 1: I think a one handed catch maybe maybe maybe against

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, and O'Dell walks by. You want to put

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Speaker 1: his left hand in the air, because because you made

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Speaker 1: that catch, I think one hand and I think it

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Speaker 1: was left handed. Yeah, I remember that play. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: was ugly, I was it was a nice player. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know, back then, it seemed like hope was eternal,

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Speaker 1: that anything was possible. And while I hope I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying goodbye to you as a Giant because I enjoy

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Speaker 1: you so much, I guess I wonder like what lessons

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Speaker 1: you've learned and what has at times been a difficult

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Speaker 1: stretch with the New York Giants, both because the team's

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Speaker 1: not learning and frankly there were times you were a

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Speaker 1: lightning rod for so much of that criticism. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest thing I can take away from the

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Speaker 1: five years of I've been in the league is um

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Speaker 1: knowing that I'm I'm more than just a football player.

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Speaker 1: My entire career from high school to college. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I pour everything into the game, and there was a

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Speaker 1: time where like everything everything about me was football, and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of all that I had and all that

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Speaker 1: I thought about and all that I did. So UM,

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Speaker 1: obviously I'm I'm obsessed with my craft and obsessed with

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Speaker 1: playing this game. But I learned that, you know, I

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Speaker 1: situations where you know you're not having as much success

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Speaker 1: and you're not UM doing the things that you expect

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Speaker 1: to do UM, And sometimes you can get caught up

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Speaker 1: in that and and look down at yourself. So I

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Speaker 1: learned that. Um, I think that's probably the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: that that I've learned throughout my time here. And obviously

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Speaker 1: I learned a lot from from former teammates and the

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Speaker 1: great guys that I played with as well. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much having I hope, one where or another we

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Speaker 1: stay in time. Thanks me to thank you. We'll take

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Speaker 1: one more for Ryando maybe Evan. I'm just curious, Um,

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Speaker 1: every one of your seasons has added this way team wise,

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Speaker 1: So if you compared the feeling to eight to two

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Speaker 1: thousand eighteen or two thousand nineteen or two thousand seventeen,

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Speaker 1: are you more confident in the direction the Giants are

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Speaker 1: headed today than usual? I'm baggy, gay, or less confident

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Speaker 1: or the same? Like, how does this end up season

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Speaker 1: compared to the other ones you've been through? Um, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of hard to really compare. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 1: really find a little details to to relate. It's just unfortunate.

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Speaker 1: And like I said earlier, I wish we hadn't we

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Speaker 1: had another game, a big game coming up this week. Um,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I think I think, I definitely believe that, UM,

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Speaker 1: things here are heading in the right direction. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know it's tough that this season and I know

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Speaker 1: we didn't um played our expectations. We didn't win um

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Speaker 1: like we expected to. But UM, I think there's things

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Speaker 1: that that we can all look at and this team

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Speaker 1: the mirror, like we have to be better here, we

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Speaker 1: have to be better here. UM. And there's there's there's

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Speaker 1: there's things that that that that can be fixed and

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Speaker 1: and I hope that will be so. UM it's not

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Speaker 1: it's nothing that I can relate to. Obviously, it sucks

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Speaker 1: our seasons in there right now, but UM, I do

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Speaker 1: feel we're heading in the right direction.