Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Imheart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: So obviously we're still in January. Do you guys like
Speaker 2: the whole New Year, New You thing?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Do you like when putin I couldn't even finish my
Speaker 2: sentence to get it out before we knew that one
Speaker 2: kit Cat came on?
Speaker 3: What about new Year? Well? What about New Year, New you?
Speaker 3: Do you not like?
Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 3: I like you, guys, I have a theory about this.
Speaker 5: Are you ready? You're gonna like my way of doing life? Okay,
Speaker 5: January is not New Year, New You. It's just a
Speaker 5: new year, and you get all of January to figure
Speaker 5: out what are my goals and then you can start
Speaker 5: in February and it's the shortest month, so that feels
Speaker 5: cozy to but I feel like.
Speaker 2: The February is also putting pressure on the February and
Speaker 2: then the rest of the year.
Speaker 5: I think what Cat's point just said, Oh I know
Speaker 5: what you're saying. Okay, So no, I just think any like,
Speaker 5: I don't really do resolutions, Yeah, but I don't even
Speaker 5: like pressure on myself to even find a word or
Speaker 5: whatever anybody does.
Speaker 3: Just January, just take a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think like I like like I like
Speaker 4: the like the feeling of like a starting over, like
Speaker 4: like the work. I really love it, like, Okay, what's
Speaker 4: the plan for this year? What's the Like it feels
Speaker 4: like a slow build usually for work, but like you
Speaker 4: can focus, Like I like that part of it, But
Speaker 4: I don't like the like what's your news resolution, what's
Speaker 4: your you know, and like I did do stuff lash January,
Speaker 4: but this January, you know what, I'm just kind of
Speaker 4: like not putting on a pressure on myself.
Speaker 2: Because last January was it was prepping for the wedding,
Speaker 2: right yeah, like I'm going to do PMS program and
Speaker 2: just like I did because.
Speaker 4: That's when it started, right, Yeah, it was like January
Speaker 4: eighth or something, which was fine, Like I think I
Speaker 4: handled that okay, But then I think what happened for
Speaker 4: this year because I did gain some weight back that
Speaker 4: I was like kind of putting that pressure on myself
Speaker 4: to do it again. Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, I don't know that I
Speaker 4: really want that pressure on myself. Like I'm happy, I'm good.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Do you weigh yourself?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: How often do you weigh yourself.
Speaker 4: I mean I weigh myself every day. You weigh every day,
Speaker 4: Like I've said, it is not a mental thing for me. Really,
Speaker 4: It truly is to keep up with Like I wouldn't
Speaker 4: know probably that I was gaining weight if I didn't.
Speaker 3: Well, I think none of us were structured pants anymore, right, Exactly,
Speaker 3: there's no U.
Speaker 4: And you're like, okay, like I'm getting a little you know,
Speaker 4: like I just always have. But when I was thirty
Speaker 4: pounds heavier, it truly didn't really affect me in like
Speaker 4: a mental weight where it does a lot of people.
Speaker 2: So so like I mean, like when the number goes
Speaker 2: up or something you don't see, you say, that doesn't.
Speaker 3: Affect you men?
Speaker 2: Really no, So then I guess why do you weigh
Speaker 2: yourself every day just to like get nice thing?
Speaker 3: That's like, I'm just like you really.
Speaker 4: Kind of have it. I think from losing. It's more
Speaker 4: from when I was losing, I had to weigh myself
Speaker 4: every day to see if I was and that definitely
Speaker 4: helped me in the losing process. Yeah, but it's not
Speaker 4: like I get on the scale and see another number
Speaker 4: and then get you know, I'm like, hey, I should
Speaker 4: probably get that in check and do better. But like
Speaker 4: it doesn't really, but I know it does a lot
Speaker 4: of people, and I'm not a fan of that for
Speaker 4: a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I'm one of those people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, which one are you? Oh the number
Speaker 2: will effect me?
Speaker 3: Oh it will.
Speaker 2: It will mentally throw me so down the rabbit hole
Speaker 2: that I won't, like not eat if it's a number
Speaker 2: over like, I won't eat, I'll like do that whole thing.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this before, but it's it's
Speaker 2: a total mind Yeah for me, Yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 4: Why I have to preface that by I do that.
Speaker 4: But for me, I have not found it to be
Speaker 4: an unhealthy habit, sure, whereas it can be a very
Speaker 4: unhealthy habit for a lot of people.
Speaker 5: So for me now, because I know muscle is so
Speaker 5: good for me, and I've been I've weighed so much
Speaker 5: more than I do now because I had good muscle
Speaker 5: and I felt strong. Gosh, that was like I felt
Speaker 5: so hot in that moment. But I don't. It doesn't
Speaker 5: do that to me now, which is good. I would
Speaker 5: say I'm a good balance right in the middle. Right now, Well,
Speaker 5: that's got to be very like positive.
Speaker 4: It feels good you know what I mean, Like, that's
Speaker 4: got to feel good to see your mental health kind
Speaker 4: of change around that.
Speaker 3: That's so very cool.
Speaker 5: But now it was weird because when I lost all
Speaker 5: the weight after the baby, it was because I lost
Speaker 5: the muscle because I couldn't work.
Speaker 3: Out when I got so sad. Yeah, and that was weird. Sure,
Speaker 3: But then there are times where I will.
Speaker 5: Get on this scale to get myself back in check. Yeah,
Speaker 5: because I have body dysmorphia in the way that I
Speaker 5: think it's so much more than it is.
Speaker 3: And then I get on there and I'm like, Okay, Kristen, calm.
Speaker 5: Down right, right, But it's just weird to gauge again
Speaker 5: because we're not wearing real clothes hardly ever, seriously, Like
Speaker 5: it's a weird.
Speaker 4: I know, occasionally I put on my geens, I'm like,
Speaker 4: did they fit like this last time? I don't really remember.
Speaker 3: No, But it's great because now you don't even remember.
Speaker 6: It's actually Burvan.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, maybe they fit just like this,
Speaker 3: but it's been so long I can't.
Speaker 4: I just want to be healthy. I think that that's
Speaker 4: my thing. Like I'm gonna like not stress about the
Speaker 4: number on the thing. I just want to be healthy.
Speaker 4: I want to get on my you know, all my
Speaker 4: levels good, all those things well.
Speaker 2: And that is why we are doing this episode today.
Speaker 2: If you're hearing some noise in the background too, We've
Speaker 2: got our girl Nicole here and we're going to introduce her.
Speaker 2: She's going to put one more IVY and I was like,
Speaker 2: I just got an IVY because I'm like, oh, Nicole's
Speaker 2: on the rundown today. I was like, oh, I was
Speaker 2: like Ivy's girls. I get so excited. But you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's hard. I'm just gonna say this so
Speaker 2: and then we'll you know, we'll intro Nicole after she's
Speaker 2: poked kyb here.
Speaker 3: But I how do I say this?
Speaker 2: Because I don't want to discredit I don't want to
Speaker 2: discredit doctors because they have a very obviously important job
Speaker 2: and what they do is very important. But there's I
Speaker 2: think a different level of Uh. I don't want to
Speaker 2: say it's not science, it's a different level of really
Speaker 2: looking at blood work in a way that my doctor
Speaker 2: he would just draw the regular panel of vitamin D
Speaker 2: and iron. But I don't know, I've never truly gotten
Speaker 2: until last year, a full panel of all of my
Speaker 2: levels checked because post Roman I was so screwed up. Yes,
Speaker 2: And I didn't even realize how messed up I was
Speaker 2: until I went to a place that and what do
Speaker 2: you how do you even like functional medical? Functional medicine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good mix between like super western and Eastern.
Speaker 2: And we'll have Nicole, you know, describe functional medicine. But
Speaker 2: it was eye opening to me because I didn't realize,
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much I needed it.
Speaker 3: Well, what's wild?
Speaker 5: And she can go into depth with this when she's
Speaker 5: done sticking in them. What's wild is what is considered
Speaker 5: normal and what is considered Like, you're fine because your
Speaker 5: level's at a certain level, but in reality, like how
Speaker 5: they get those numbers and what what why they come
Speaker 5: up with those numbers is so crazy and vast that
Speaker 5: it doesn't apply to every single person.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing too, because they're they're they're
Speaker 2: reading it different. Yes, they're also going to go into
Speaker 2: depth right in a different level.
Speaker 4: For me, the whole reason I went is not necessarily
Speaker 4: because I felt bad or you know, like I felt
Speaker 4: you know, It was more the whole like vitamin thing
Speaker 4: was so stressful to me. Yeah, there are so many
Speaker 4: you hear all these things? Do you take this?
Speaker 2: Do you take that as I'm posting like fifteen supplements?
Speaker 2: But I'm like yeah, but I was actually also taking
Speaker 2: all those supplements down, and I'm like, is this too much?
Speaker 3: Like is there actually a reverse?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I'd look at it like, well I should get that,
Speaker 4: and I should I don't know. So I finally just
Speaker 4: went and I was like, what do I need?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 5: Also, it's wild too, because even brands of vitamins matter,
Speaker 5: like you can't you know, like certain vitamins don't dilute well,
Speaker 5: like the quality of the caseine and encapsulation, like all
Speaker 5: of that matters too, And so then when you start
Speaker 5: digging into that, it gets really overwhelming.
Speaker 2: I think, well, and that's why you are the one
Speaker 2: that actually maybe was the one that introduced me to
Speaker 2: Nicole and all functional medicine. And I honestly it's not
Speaker 2: that I didn't I guess. I just I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: why didn't why didn't our doctors tell us this? Like
Speaker 2: why didn't our doctors run these panels and go, oh,
Speaker 2: you are so low in X, Y and Z. But
Speaker 2: there's just a whole level of more depth and in
Speaker 2: functional medicine. So let's take a quick break and then
Speaker 2: let's get Nicole on and dive right into it. Nicole,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the show. Last year,
Speaker 2: I came into your office and I was so embarrassed
Speaker 2: because I mean, she doesn't know me that well, not
Speaker 2: well enough, obviously, not even close to like you girls,
Speaker 2: even though she's you know, looking at my poop samples
Speaker 2: and everything that that, like you know, she's we've given her.
Speaker 3: It gets intimate fast, Okay, it sure does.
Speaker 2: But I just started like bawling because she's like and
Speaker 2: I'm like, i.
Speaker 6: Don't even know why I'm crying.
Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm not happy and I don't know.
Speaker 2: And then she and I was like, I'm so sorry,
Speaker 2: and like, how many do people A lot of people
Speaker 2: just come in your office and cry.
Speaker 6: Well, she's like, well, like you too.
Speaker 1: I think krist and I have had like a weekly
Speaker 1: cry sash together for at least a couple of months now.
Speaker 3: I'm like, a hey girl.
Speaker 2: It was like, well, it's hard because you feel like
Speaker 2: I didn't know why I felt the way that I felt.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I went to therapy and and
Speaker 2: she's telling me I'm not depressed. I'm like, then, why
Speaker 2: do I feel depressed? Why do I feel like I
Speaker 2: can't get out of bed? Why do I feel so tired?
Speaker 2: Why do I like feel just like brain foggy?
Speaker 3: And you, you.
Speaker 2: Know, you obviously said the things that you said, but
Speaker 2: I guess just go into what So take me, for example,
Speaker 2: take my case and talk about what we did and
Speaker 2: how you kind of got me on the other path
Speaker 2: and what you saw in my blood work and things
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, obviously you came to me super postpartum and
Speaker 1: you had a lot of hormone abnormalities because of that.
Speaker 6: And I think you know, Kristin and.
Speaker 1: I we've talked a good bit about this, but there
Speaker 1: is a stigma around postpartum care that the fatigue, the anxiety,
Speaker 1: the overwhelm is normal. And sure, certainly to a certain
Speaker 1: degree it is normal. But I think in women's health, especially,
Speaker 1: you go in and you try and talk to your
Speaker 1: doctor about these things, and they just shove you off
Speaker 1: quite a bit. They don't look at hormones the same
Speaker 1: way we do in functional medicine. And you had quite
Speaker 1: a bit of hormone dysfunction and so correcting that and
Speaker 1: then also discovering that you had a heavy viral load
Speaker 1: that's been suppressing your immune system, suppressing your hormone function.
Speaker 1: So we're still working on that, but you know, detoxing
Speaker 1: that and essentially just getting your body back where it
Speaker 1: needs to be so you can fully function and produce
Speaker 1: hormones and feel good the way that you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be feeling.
Speaker 2: So and then what was the EBV? So everyone has EBV,
Speaker 2: but what my case was a viral like I had
Speaker 2: a high? Like what like when you look at the
Speaker 2: blood work, what do you normally see in Is everybody's
Speaker 2: blood work different like obviously all three of ours are?
Speaker 2: Is all of ours so different? Or do you see
Speaker 2: something that's common thread within women's blood.
Speaker 1: Work, Within women's blood work in general, definitely hormone dysfunction,
Speaker 1: especially in our age. You know, I'm thirty, y'all are
Speaker 1: in your forties. Thank you love testauster, sorry, we're all
Speaker 1: twenty one. Especially at this age, we see a huge
Speaker 1: decline in testosterone. And there is this kind of theory
Speaker 1: in society that as you age, you just start to
Speaker 1: feel really bad, and so people start to feel things
Speaker 1: like increased anxiety and fatigue and low libido and brain fog.
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, this is it. I've hit thirty five,
Speaker 1: I've hit forty. This is you know, this is what
Speaker 1: all the generations before me say. But that's actually the case.
Speaker 1: It's just because that's when our hormones start to decline.
Speaker 1: And so that's definitely the commonality I see amongst our
Speaker 1: age group. EBV should not be elevated in everybody. That is,
Speaker 1: you have that special, that special thing about you. But
Speaker 1: Epstein bar a lot of people get it from having mono.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk about medicine, the thing
Speaker 1: that separates us is we can all come into contact
Speaker 1: with the same pathogen, the same exposure, but you have
Speaker 1: to be susceptible to be able to develop that and
Speaker 1: to be able to not overcome it. And I think
Speaker 1: that's where a lot of people get caught up, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to like genetic predispositions. We all have
Speaker 1: stuff in our history that's lingering in the background that
Speaker 1: we're scared of that we're like, oh, my gosh, you
Speaker 1: know my parents had this, my grandparents had this. I
Speaker 1: do not want to develop this, And that doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be the case, like your genetics do not define you.
Speaker 1: We are absolutely in control of the expression of our genes,
Speaker 1: which is what is epigenetics is we can turn our
Speaker 1: genes off and on if you have you will power
Speaker 1: and dedication to seek out the healthcare that you need,
Speaker 1: to seek out people who know what to look forward
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're setting yourself up for success
Speaker 1: in the future.
Speaker 5: I just think that's such a refreshing statement because I
Speaker 5: remember the first time you told me, like my husband especially,
Speaker 5: is like, well, if you look at my you know,
Speaker 5: look at my dad, like because he doesn't come from
Speaker 5: like super athletic builds necessarily or like, you know, like
Speaker 5: he didn't. I come from a very stocky, sporty family,
Speaker 5: Like all of them look like little tater tots. They
Speaker 5: grow muscles in their sleep, and they were always all athletic,
Speaker 5: and so I never like, my mom is really spunky
Speaker 5: and young and like you know, and so I have
Speaker 5: never felt that, like, oh, well, genetics will lead me
Speaker 5: to this. But I kind of was introduced to that
Speaker 5: when I met Preston Is He's like, well, you know,
Speaker 5: this runs my family or that runs my family whatever,
Speaker 5: And then he had Bell's palsy twice and functional medicine
Speaker 5: was the only thing. The only people you and Nate
Speaker 5: the only people that would say this isn't in cure right.
Speaker 5: Everyone else is like, it's just bad luck. Even head
Speaker 5: of head.
Speaker 3: Of neurology at Vanderbilt was like, bad luck.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that leaves people feeling hopeless, and when you're hopeless,
Speaker 5: that's biblical. Even right, hope deferred makes a heart sick.
Speaker 5: But like losing hope in anything makes you so frustrated.
Speaker 5: So like when I sit down with you and you're like,
Speaker 5: what's wild? I do want to talk about this, because
Speaker 5: I think we all share this too. What's wild is
Speaker 5: that I'm like, I don't know why I feel like
Speaker 5: the way I feel like I feel. Okay, I feel
Speaker 5: so satisfied with life and content whatever, but I was
Speaker 5: still feeling like I'm super anxious waking up at two
Speaker 5: or three in the morning. And Nicole is like calling
Speaker 5: it out. You're like, Okay, do you feel like this?
Speaker 5: Do you feel like this? Do you feel like this?
Speaker 5: And are you waking up between two and three in
Speaker 5: the morning? And I'm like, that's weird. How would you
Speaker 5: even know that? And that's because tell us why women
Speaker 5: sometimes wake up between two and three in the morning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so very stereotypical. What we call a drenal fatigue.
Speaker 1: I refer to our adrenal glance, like our stress resiliency system.
Speaker 1: They produce two main hormones DHA, but also cordisol, which
Speaker 1: is our stress hormone. Cortisol is notorious for trying to
Speaker 1: peak at night when we want to sleep, and it
Speaker 1: has that inverse relationship with melatonin. So if it's peaking,
Speaker 1: melatonin's down and your body's like, oh, it's time to
Speaker 1: start the day, and you're like, wait a second, it's
Speaker 1: two am. This is not how things are supposed to be,
Speaker 1: And then the opposite thing can happen. We can see
Speaker 1: it declined throughout the day, which means melotonin rises, which
Speaker 1: is why people oftentimes get that one to three pm
Speaker 1: afternoon fog. They tend to definitely go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: But cortisol abnormalities and adrenal fatigue comes from chronic stress,
Speaker 1: chronic repetitive trauma. And it's not even necessarily that you're
Speaker 1: going through a lot of stress right here right now,
Speaker 1: Like you may be recovered from the stress previously, but
Speaker 1: your body carries that stress with you. We call it
Speaker 1: the alastatic load. Your body literally hangs on to that trauma,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it has a really, really hard time getting
Speaker 1: back to baseline because we have to take some extra
Speaker 1: steps to be able to encourage it to be like, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to be doing, this is
Speaker 1: how we're supposed to be operating.
Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you know that
Speaker 2: you would tell people you know how to help with
Speaker 2: the crowning stress.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a few things lifestyle modifications that are free.
Speaker 1: These are the easiest ways to start.
Speaker 6: Sunlight.
Speaker 1: Direct sunlight first thing in the morning, ten to fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: like immediately after you wake up, can absolutely change your life.
Speaker 1: It makes such a big difference other things that I
Speaker 1: find or people typically are electrolyte deficient when they have
Speaker 1: adrenal fatigue. I have a little adrenal quote unquote cocktail
Speaker 1: that I like to recommend to people, which is like
Speaker 1: Maldarn's Real Salt or Maldron's Sea Salt or Redman's Real
Speaker 1: Salt combined with like a vitamin C component, like a
Speaker 1: tropical juice that you squeeze yourself and then like coconut water,
Speaker 1: for example, for potassium. So that's a little cocktail you
Speaker 1: can do in the morning. That's actually what I do.
Speaker 1: I literally make that and then I sit outside and
Speaker 1: stare at the sunlight with my dog while he goes
Speaker 1: to the bathroom. So it makes it easy for me.
Speaker 1: But you can also do things at night. I'm a big,
Speaker 1: big advocate of red light therapy before bed to help
Speaker 1: lower our cord is all lower inflammation. Setting the tone
Speaker 1: for a good night's sleep, you know, avoid the blue light,
Speaker 1: avoid the TV, the cell phone, give yourself a nice, dark, quiet,
Speaker 1: old atmosphere. The body temp is supposed to decline in
Speaker 1: the evening, so we want to encourage that. And then
Speaker 1: additionally things like meditation, deep breathing exercises and yoga.
Speaker 6: I know, I can see you smiling.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I was like, listen, Jana,
Speaker 1: we have to implement these things, I know.
Speaker 2: And I was, oh my god, She's just like.
Speaker 3: I just mind yoga so boring. But Nicole did. She
Speaker 3: got me in this company and I'm obsessed with that's
Speaker 3: called loom Box.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It is a little pricey, but it's fantastic and it's
Speaker 2: red light therapy. So I've really been loving that. Actually
Speaker 2: I did it this morning though, but yes, well that's okay.
Speaker 1: I mean I like it at night because it naturally
Speaker 1: helps to lower your cortisol levels. But certainly if you're
Speaker 1: only able to do it in the morning, like I
Speaker 1: will take that over not doing it at all. I
Speaker 1: know there's different supplements you can take too, you know,
Speaker 1: different like stress relieving supplements, Ashwagonda's really really popular, Holy
Speaker 1: Basils and other really popular ones. So, but taking I
Speaker 1: think the most important takeaway is that taking care of
Speaker 1: yourself is the most important thing. I think as women
Speaker 1: were all givers, and especially you ladies with kids, like
Speaker 1: you're oftentimes the last person you're thinking about, and that
Speaker 1: plays a huge role in your ability to cope with stress.
Speaker 6: I think it's really.
Speaker 1: Underappreciated how self care is so important. It's so important,
Speaker 1: and I think as moms especially, it's easy to forget.
Speaker 1: You know, you're taking care of everyone else, so you
Speaker 1: have to have someone who's taking care of you as well.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you one thing, because we are
Speaker 5: in the thick of January and a lot of places
Speaker 5: are cold and dark, so do the sun lamps work
Speaker 5: the same as like the Teminus sunlight because even here
Speaker 5: in Nashville we may get some unshine, which is like
Speaker 5: I think my only claim to fame still because it's
Speaker 5: getting too cold for my liking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I'm here.
Speaker 5: It's some place warm, but like is it, like do
Speaker 5: the sun lamps actually work? Like I know a lot
Speaker 5: of Michigan, like Jane and I are both from Michigan,
Speaker 5: and it gets really sad and it's really dark, yes
Speaker 5: and cold.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's a great question because you're spot on, especially here
Speaker 1: in Nashville. You know, January's where we typically experience that
Speaker 1: first snow and like nobody's going outside to sit and
Speaker 1: stare at the sun, you know, in a couple of
Speaker 1: inches of snow or whatever. But the sunlight lamps are great,
Speaker 1: and I highly advocate for them when we're not in
Speaker 1: the ability to go out and get that direct sunlight.
Speaker 1: So because it's not always practical. The biggest thing we're
Speaker 1: wanting is vitamin D two. So a lot of people
Speaker 1: will supplement with things like vitamin D three K two
Speaker 1: in the winner to help support that.
Speaker 2: And then they have to have the K two in it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: something that's to know the vitamin D needs the K.
Speaker 1: Two absolutely, yeah, So vitamin D K two is what
Speaker 1: helps us to actually absorb vitamin D. But even as
Speaker 1: we talk about like transitioning in life like Perry postmenopause,
Speaker 1: when you talk about your estrogen levels going down so
Speaker 1: you're starting to develop things like osteoporosis, you'll oftentimes hear
Speaker 1: that people are taking calcium supplements. But if you are
Speaker 1: not taking vitamin D with your calcium, you're not going
Speaker 1: to absorb it well. And if you're not taking vitamin
Speaker 1: K with your D and your calcium, that calcium is
Speaker 1: actually going to go towards plaque build up, so atherosclerosis,
Speaker 1: which can lead to cardiovascular disease, versus being reabsorbed back
Speaker 1: into the bone where obviously we actually want it since
Speaker 1: we're trying to reduce things like osteoporosis, very very important.
Speaker 4: So this is I get them a touch on this
Speaker 4: real fast. This is where I get very frustrated. So
Speaker 4: you don't work with children, right.
Speaker 1: Not typically like I see kids from time to time,
Speaker 1: but I much more work.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to change a subject, but it has
Speaker 4: to do with the vitamin D. So when I took
Speaker 4: my fifteen year old boy and my almost thirteen year
Speaker 4: old girl to their regular pediatrician visits. The boy is
Speaker 4: supposed to be taking calcium, the girls are supposed to
Speaker 4: be taking vitamin D, and I'm like, is anyone going
Speaker 4: to mention anything else? So like, should they also be
Speaker 4: taking vitamin D plus K two?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So with pediatrics, like I said, adults are my specialty,
Speaker 1: but generally speaking yes, Yeah, generally speaking yes, and most
Speaker 1: children's vitamins, like the well rounded quality ones will also
Speaker 1: include that in there to a very small degree.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's just where I get frustrated, because now that
Speaker 4: I know that, I'm like, is anyone gonna tell me that?
Speaker 2: But also with super frustrating, and I'm going to just
Speaker 2: go on top of this. I was sitting there talking
Speaker 2: to her about Nicole about vaccines, and I was struggling.
Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I'm going to give some and
Speaker 2: I'm some of them I'm having really tough time with
Speaker 2: and I just don't know. And she was, well, don't
Speaker 2: do tailan al. You know the one thing the damned
Speaker 2: doctor say before and after, make sure you give them
Speaker 2: tilan all if be there before or after. And She's
Speaker 2: like do not give talan all because I say or
Speaker 2: after vaccines.
Speaker 1: I mean, ever, if I had it my way, It's interesting.
Speaker 1: Research actually shows of all the medications in the world,
Speaker 1: tyland All is considered one of the most dangerous medications
Speaker 1: on the market.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, I know, and especially to.
Speaker 1: Follow that like post vaccine, I think what happens to
Speaker 1: a lot of people is, you know, in today's vaccine world,
Speaker 1: kids are getting a lot of vaccines at once, a ton,
Speaker 1: back to back to back to back. It's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things in vaccines outside of just
Speaker 1: this stuff that we want, a lot of metals and
Speaker 1: whatnot that are used for preservative purposes. However, when you
Speaker 1: flood the body with a whole bunch of different heavy
Speaker 1: metals that are in these vaccines and then you give
Speaker 1: them thileanol, thileanol depletes glutathion, which is our master antioxidant,
Speaker 1: which is what protects us from things like heavy metal toxicity.
Speaker 1: Do you talk about kids who experience things like vaccine injuries?
Speaker 1: And this is a really really big reason why we
Speaker 1: see this. So yeah, post vaccine, no tileanol.
Speaker 2: Because it takes away the gluteithion, or it not takes
Speaker 2: it away, but it blocks it enough.
Speaker 6: It blocks it. Yeah, isn't that insane.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to like go into my pediatric
Speaker 2: and pediatrician and be like, why are you telling me this?
Speaker 3: Why are you telling all of this?
Speaker 4: It's just so hard because I do believe in functional
Speaker 4: medicine obviously, but I also do believe in my kids
Speaker 4: going to the pediatrician and vaccines, and so it's just
Speaker 4: like this balance, but I don't feel like I'm getting
Speaker 4: all the correct and for it. It's just it overwhelms me.
Speaker 4: It completely overwhelms me.
Speaker 5: You've been like, functional medicine to me has always been
Speaker 5: like the good balance for me because holistic medicine is
Speaker 5: beautiful and lovely and I've done that and it was
Speaker 5: effective ish, but there is I mean, listen, I'm sitting
Speaker 5: here with rods in my back, Like I believe in
Speaker 5: modern medicine and I believe in doctors and nurses and
Speaker 5: all of those things. I just also feel like it
Speaker 5: doesn't have to be all or nothing, and it felt
Speaker 5: like there was nothing right in the middle. Yes, and
Speaker 5: so to sit with someone that has a brain like
Speaker 5: yours and say, like, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 5: be on zoloft postpartum, and I was in it while
Speaker 5: it was lovely and it helped me at the time
Speaker 5: mood wise, it also made me not super want to
Speaker 5: have sex that sucked because I really enjoy that, like sure,
Speaker 5: and it makes me feel like a girlfriend, and that
Speaker 5: makes you feel better postpartum, you know, like so to
Speaker 5: sit with you and say, like you can come off
Speaker 5: of that. We have to be careful how we do
Speaker 5: it and slow, but like just all of those things
Speaker 5: where and I never want to throw any obs under
Speaker 5: the bus because quite honestly, I have like the cream
Speaker 5: of the crop.
Speaker 3: I think she's brilliant.
Speaker 5: That is what is suggested pretty quickly when you do
Speaker 5: the postpartum checklist and you score low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, okay, we need to.
Speaker 5: Look into something, and it is effective and helpful.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 5: But also my body was a train wreck. I mean
Speaker 5: my first round of labs, it was like no testosterone
Speaker 5: at all, right, I mean like at a three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, namesies, yes, I'm pretty sure y'all. Suveles couldn't even
Speaker 1: be read because they were so low. That's the lesson thereach.
Speaker 2: I didn't but as a forty year old woman, you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that testosterone like we were supposed to.
Speaker 2: We even should have our testosterone taken. Like, so, I'm
Speaker 2: like when you when you were saying like I need
Speaker 2: testosterone shots, I'm like, what, Like, isn't that only for men?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was so confused.
Speaker 4: I mean, I did know that, but I had no
Speaker 4: idea when was that low though.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that you're so shots
Speaker 6: anymore now.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't really helped me. She was like, well,
Speaker 4: then don't do it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, see, I noticed that I do
Speaker 2: notice the difference when when I don't do the shots.
Speaker 2: I really do, like my energy level is different and
Speaker 2: I feel and now that I'm taking the dhah, which
Speaker 2: what is DHA?
Speaker 1: So that is the other hormone that comes from our
Speaker 1: adrenal glance. We're talking about adrenal fatigue. You know, people
Speaker 1: who have experienced lots of chronic stress, lots of previous trauma.
Speaker 1: You can see there's different varying levels. Yeah, Jack, check,
Speaker 1: there's varying levels of adrenal fatigue. And when that DHA
Speaker 1: level starts to go down, when it's low enough, I
Speaker 1: will supplement with it.
Speaker 2: You mentioned this earlier where it's even if you're not
Speaker 2: in the PTSD chronic stress or trauma right in this moment,
Speaker 2: it still can be in your body. And I think
Speaker 2: that's something that I've taken to heart because when I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: everything's amazing, I'm getting you know, I was getting married
Speaker 2: and I have a beautiful baby, and you know, life
Speaker 2: is good and work is good, and it's like, why
Speaker 2: do I feel like this load? And You're like, well,
Speaker 2: it could still be in you from when your PTSD
Speaker 2: or abusive relationships. And I'm like, what that's like. I
Speaker 2: didn't know how much that really affected the body present.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. It affects you present day.
Speaker 1: And when you talk about hormones as a whole, I
Speaker 1: always try to explain it like think of it like
Speaker 1: a like a line, like your adrenals have to work
Speaker 1: for your thyroid to work. Your thyroid has to work
Speaker 1: for your sex hormones to work. So if you have
Speaker 1: hormone dysfunction at the very top, like with your adrenals,
Speaker 1: like what you're experience and saying that's going to give
Speaker 1: you full body repercussions. And so I always start I'm
Speaker 1: always like, you know, treat the adrenals first and then
Speaker 1: go from there because oftentimes if you have that right dysfunction,
Speaker 1: it could come from that. Sex hormone dysfunction also comes
Speaker 1: from that, and so treating that in you especially is
Speaker 1: so important. But for everyone else out there, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all the hormones are connected. Our body is one
Speaker 1: giant system, which we're not trained to look at it
Speaker 1: like that. Inconventional medicine. We're actually trained quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you when I was in commisional
Speaker 1: medicine the number of times I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't treat that.
Speaker 6: You have to see so and so.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: It is not until I went into functional medicine that
Speaker 1: I realized, like, oh wait a second, everything is actually
Speaker 1: related needs to be treated as such.
Speaker 2: So what do you think is the biggest I don't
Speaker 2: want to say fad, but something where you know, obviously
Speaker 2: there's you know, the whole new year, new, this new thing,
Speaker 2: Like what is the thing that you look at and
Speaker 2: you're like, you know this this diet is is there
Speaker 2: a certain diet? They're like, don't do that? Or like
Speaker 2: what is or there is there a product? Or is
Speaker 2: there something? And they're something that you're seeing. That's like,
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be promoted the way that's being promoted.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I have two answers to this.
Speaker 1: With the diet, it feels like everyone goes carnivor Keto,
Speaker 1: which I'm not the biggest fan of. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: short term diets, any kind of diet is fine, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people hop on these diets and then
Speaker 1: they stay on them long term. And what's interesting about
Speaker 1: both of them is typically the people you'll see that
Speaker 1: hop on these diet trends are, you know, people who
Speaker 1: have quite significant weight to lose or they have dealt
Speaker 1: with things like insulin resistance. Do they lose weight, yes,
Speaker 1: But if you already have something like metabolic syndrome or
Speaker 1: insulin resistance, the likelihood is that you already have things
Speaker 1: like high cholesterol, plaque build up, possibly leaning towards that
Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease state. And when you do something like the
Speaker 1: carnivor diet, you lose all your phyto nutrients. Most people
Speaker 1: are not eating like a colorful plate of fruits and veggies.
Speaker 1: When you do something like keto, same concept, your fats
Speaker 1: go sky high because you're going low carb. Both of
Speaker 1: these can have really negative repercussions in people who are
Speaker 1: probably already experiencing some of this from having insulin resistance
Speaker 1: and being overweight or obese to begin with. So I
Speaker 1: always like to tell people well rounded is the way
Speaker 1: to go. I mean, I think we've all probably heard
Speaker 1: of the Mediterranean diet, but getting things like anti inflammatory
Speaker 1: diet yep, whole whole grains, omega three fatty acids like
Speaker 1: these are some of the best things you can do
Speaker 1: for weight. It's fine to go a little lower carb
Speaker 1: and higher fat, but it shouldn't be an all or
Speaker 1: nothing scenario. And I definitely see time and time again
Speaker 1: people who've been on these diets for a long time,
Speaker 1: they actually end up having kind of long term repercussions
Speaker 1: to their health, things like plaque build up and being
Speaker 1: at a higher increased risk for cardiovascular disease.
Speaker 6: Down the line.
Speaker 3: What do you think about alcohol?
Speaker 1: So there is a lot of research to say that
Speaker 1: red wine does have its heart health benefits, and red
Speaker 1: wine is actually recommended in the Mediterranean diet. So I
Speaker 1: think everything in moderation.
Speaker 2: What would you say is like a moderate like to
Speaker 2: have a glass of wine, Like, what would you say
Speaker 2: is a moderate level or for a week or a month.
Speaker 6: Recommended for a week, probably like one to two glasses
Speaker 6: a week.
Speaker 5: Wanted to Yes, I have a question when it comes
Speaker 5: to like seafood, because Mediterranean diet is glorious and beautiful. Yes,
Speaker 5: we also live in the United States, Yes, and we
Speaker 5: specifically live here right in the middle where they're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: super landlocked and no.
Speaker 3: Fresh Like where what is our best way to get.
Speaker 5: Things like like I can eat salmon now mcause I
Speaker 5: know it's good for me, yes, but also if you're
Speaker 5: eating not good meat, yes, it's not good for you.
Speaker 5: So if you're not eating great seafood, you might as
Speaker 5: well just not eat it at all.
Speaker 6: That's fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So where do we go?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And so I think is there a site that you
Speaker 4: order that you like?
Speaker 1: So that's a good question. I still pick up my
Speaker 1: seafood here locally. I'm actually, truthfully, I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: seafood eater. I forced myself to eat salmon a few
Speaker 1: times a week because I know it's good for me,
Speaker 1: but it's not not my jam lean proteins. The other
Speaker 1: way to go chicken and turkey, And I think the
Speaker 1: thing that we can look for and this is accessible
Speaker 1: to anybody depending on where you're located.
Speaker 6: Is you just want to find someone.
Speaker 1: Who locally produces their meat essentially grass fed, pasture raised.
Speaker 1: That's the most important things you can look for. There
Speaker 1: are some like smaller markets even here locally in Nashville
Speaker 1: that will sell things like this, like your farmer's markets
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But typically, you know, in different communities, you
Speaker 1: can ask around and there's usually places or farmers who
Speaker 1: will sell. There's also lots of Facebook pages for this.
Speaker 1: I'm a member of multiple different Facebook pages like Frenchy
Speaker 1: Moms of Tennessee or something like that, who they constantly
Speaker 1: have like people who can produce this stuff and will
Speaker 1: sell it to the general community. So going back to
Speaker 1: the salmon, just so I can also say this too,
Speaker 1: I think there's you know, you hear fresh never frozen,
Speaker 1: and you always want that to be the direction that
Speaker 1: you go. But a lot of the live bacteria that
Speaker 1: live in salmon die when you freeze it. Though it's
Speaker 1: not always the worst thing if your salmon's frozen to
Speaker 1: begin with.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, Going back to women's health and in forties,
Speaker 2: obviously testosterone in hormones. Was there anything else that we
Speaker 2: should be of concern as we age and go into
Speaker 2: perimont and pause or anything else that we should go. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're in our forties now, this is something we should
Speaker 2: really look out for.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think when we enter our thirties and forties, that's
Speaker 1: when kind of lifestyle things that we've done for a
Speaker 1: long time really start to come into play. And you
Speaker 1: also had asked me earlier about trending supplements, like.
Speaker 2: Don't look at my Starbucks cup? Okay, I like, like,
Speaker 2: I like I saw her to stare at it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up my Chi tea.
Speaker 3: Yet. We can only do so much one thing at
Speaker 3: a time, one thing.
Speaker 6: At a time.
Speaker 1: Yes, my husband jokes that that is my crutch too.
Speaker 1: So I live an eighty twenty lifestyle. Eighty percent of
Speaker 1: the time I do very well. Twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 1: I drink Starbucks.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think when we start to enter thirties
Speaker 1: and forties, the lifestyle things that we've had, like our
Speaker 1: childhood in teen years is when you really start to
Speaker 1: see those things come to light. So gut dysfunction is
Speaker 1: huge here and I hear it all the time. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been fine for all these years, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: I'm just getting bloated randomly, or I'm constipated or diarrhea
Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's typically because things from our childhood
Speaker 1: are really starting to like affect us, like multiple rounds
Speaker 1: of childhood antibiotics, for example.
Speaker 2: Or the cherries that we would just eat from, like
Speaker 2: the Marciano cherries.
Speaker 1: That yes, they're really just a vehicle to get sugar
Speaker 1: straight to your bloodstream.
Speaker 6: I was always.
Speaker 3: Popping them by the bartender that like is so I
Speaker 3: never liked them. I was the olive girl. But it's
Speaker 3: something you.
Speaker 1: Would do the olive girls. So yes, all right, sorry,
Speaker 1: I go back to what you're saying. No, you're totally fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think gut health is the other big one,
Speaker 1: and it's important for so many things. Not only do
Speaker 1: you really start to see dysfunction in the thirty thirties
Speaker 1: and forties, but gut health is kind of that gateway
Speaker 1: to develop things like chronic disease. And so I think
Speaker 1: we've all heard the term leaky gut like over and
Speaker 1: over again, which is literally what it sounds like, like
Speaker 1: your cells aren't as close together anymore due to toxins,
Speaker 1: antibiotic stress, YadA YadA, all that good stuff, and so
Speaker 1: different things that we eat or pathogens we come into
Speaker 1: contact to you can start to enter into our body
Speaker 1: in places it's not meant to be, and then our
Speaker 1: body builds up antibodies, and that's when we see things
Speaker 1: like autoimmune conditions develop food sensitivities. Like I think y'all
Speaker 1: both done the food sensitivity test and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm allergic to like eighty different things. Now
Speaker 1: it's just because we have a leaky gut, So our
Speaker 1: gut is like I need to produce antibodies to these
Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't normally. There's also a lot of
Speaker 1: theories out there that this is also kind of the
Speaker 1: developing of the epigenetic changes in the development of things
Speaker 1: like cancer. And so, to answer your question from earlier
Speaker 1: when you were like, are there supplements out there that
Speaker 1: you feel like are trending? All those websites that are like,
Speaker 1: if you just buy this one gut health supplement, you're
Speaker 1: life life will be changed.
Speaker 6: Will it help you? Sure?
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of them do have good ingredients
Speaker 1: in there, but you're not actually fixing anything. You're kind
Speaker 1: of just adding a layer of like probiotics, which is great,
Speaker 1: and some gut health support, so your symptoms are minimized,
Speaker 1: but what caused it to begin with is actually still
Speaker 1: probably not being treated.
Speaker 5: So okay, is there something somebody can do that's listening
Speaker 5: that doesn't have you besides this podcast.
Speaker 3: Or a functional medicine place in their area?
Speaker 5: Like, is there like a protocol that you could in
Speaker 5: this Maybe a no, that's okay, but like if is
Speaker 5: there like a general protocol you could say would be
Speaker 5: helping people get towards like healing from leaky gut or
Speaker 5: I have a leaky gut a fence right now because
Speaker 5: I have a leaky gut.
Speaker 3: We have determined Yes, but also.
Speaker 2: Like you know their overall too, like is it going
Speaker 2: to you know, lab blood draw and then having someone
Speaker 2: be able to read Like how does someone even do that?
Speaker 2: And I also know it can be expensive too, so
Speaker 2: what's the Is there a company that you know can
Speaker 2: be a little bit better with the pricing on things?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when it comes to really figuring out exactly
Speaker 1: what's going on in the gut, it does generally require
Speaker 1: some comprehensive stool testing, but that being said, I definitely
Speaker 1: have patients who are like, like you said, it's a
Speaker 1: pricey test. So I'm like, you know, they're like, listen,
Speaker 1: I can't afford this, So what can I do? So
Speaker 1: there are some good rules of thumb. There is a
Speaker 1: protocol that I use and I'm happy to share that
Speaker 1: you can kind of just do your best to follow
Speaker 1: with what you know, even if you don't have the
Speaker 1: resources to be able to get like that full fledged
Speaker 1: gut program. So it's something I learned from the Institute
Speaker 1: of Functional Medicine. It's called the five R gut program.
Speaker 1: So Step ones remove You want to remove anything that
Speaker 1: you have. Food sensitivities too. If every time that you
Speaker 1: eat gluten you get bloated, you're going to want to
Speaker 1: remove that. You want to remove toxins. You want to
Speaker 1: move alcohol certainly if you do, like you know, vaping
Speaker 1: or anything like that, anything harmful to the body, we
Speaker 1: want to just get rid of that. And then when
Speaker 1: we move on to step two, we're really replacing. So
Speaker 1: what is it about the digestive process that's not functioning?
Speaker 1: This is where have that advanced testing can come into
Speaker 1: hand and come and be useful. But you know, If
Speaker 1: you have acid reflex, you probably have low stomach acid.
Speaker 1: If you have batty looking floating stools that are weird colors,
Speaker 1: your gallbladder's probably sluggish. If you have undigested food in
Speaker 1: your stool, it's probably low pancreatic enzymes. So you want
Speaker 1: to take digestive enzymes or whatever's appropriate for you. And
Speaker 1: that's the replace. You move on to reinoculate your probotics,
Speaker 1: your probiotics. Then you move on to repair. That's where
Speaker 1: you're really repairing the leaky gut. Things like el glutamine
Speaker 1: and alivera can be so helpful for this. And then last,
Speaker 1: but not least, is the rebalanced component, which just means,
Speaker 1: however you ended up here, whether it's stress, toxins, anabiotic use.
Speaker 6: Avoid that.
Speaker 1: So reset your life to make sure that you can
Speaker 1: be successful in the future. That's a guideline I give
Speaker 1: to my patients and it works really well whether or
Speaker 1: not you have the gut test. The gut test really
Speaker 1: is just very specific. So I'm like, oh, you need
Speaker 1: this probiotic strain or you know whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know from doing the bestual tests, like
Speaker 2: we have a certain probotic now that I have to
Speaker 2: go on, which is so fascinating, Like, depending on which
Speaker 2: strain it is that you need, is crazy supplement wise
Speaker 2: that you love. I know we've talked about armor, which
Speaker 2: again is it's a very it's a pricey supplement. But
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I just like and I don't even do.
Speaker 2: I did one ad for them, but I haven't since,
Speaker 2: but i've that's how I found them, and I just
Speaker 2: I always say that's the reason why I wasn't sick
Speaker 2: for my wedding, because I just was like taken that closterrum.
Speaker 2: But like, I don't even really know what it is
Speaker 2: or how or why I like it so much. I'm
Speaker 2: fatty fifteen. But what else do you recommend?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 6: Too, love armor, It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Armor plays a big, really big role in the like
Speaker 1: immune system function of our gut, so that's probably why
Speaker 1: it was so beneficial for you in terms of not
Speaker 1: getting sick.
Speaker 2: What I guess what is the closterum is? Like from
Speaker 2: I thought it was like parents your boobies.
Speaker 6: Yep. Essentially, Yeah, you're spot on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is super super nutrient dense. It just contains
Speaker 1: a lot of very very healthy, essentially composeonents that are
Speaker 1: you know you were spot on.
Speaker 6: That's the first.
Speaker 1: Thing that you introduce to the baby, like red after
Speaker 1: birth when it comes from Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully hopefully that's the first.
Speaker 3: Thing back to them postpartum loop.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's because it's so nutrient dense and it boost
Speaker 1: it boots up their immune system tremendously, So it really
Speaker 1: is beneficial in that sense for like overall health, and
Speaker 1: that's why people see so much dramatic improvement with things
Speaker 1: like Armora claustrum. You said fatty fifteen, love fatty fifteen.
Speaker 1: It's an essential fatty acid that's a little challenging to
Speaker 1: get through food, but it is considered the best fatty
Speaker 1: acid for anti aging and metabolic health. So it makes
Speaker 1: a really really big difference in that front. Outside of
Speaker 1: those two in terms of name brands, I have companies
Speaker 1: I really like, but I just have general supplements I
Speaker 1: recommend to people. Almost all of us are deficient in
Speaker 1: vitamin D. We talked about this a little bit earlier.
Speaker 1: Vitamin D three K two is huge. This is a
Speaker 1: fat soluble vitamin, so you do want to have your
Speaker 1: levels checked. But conventional meta and says thirty to one
Speaker 1: hundred is normal. But you actually will not form adequate
Speaker 1: memories if it's less than fifty. And so anyone who
Speaker 1: tells you your levels are normal than less than fifty,
Speaker 1: I personally would recommend a little bit higher and.
Speaker 3: A different doctor and a different doctor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and in all fairness, you know that's how
Speaker 1: we were trained initially from the get go. But essential
Speaker 1: fatty acids in general, like your omega threes are so
Speaker 1: important as an anti inflammatory, boosting immune health. You know,
Speaker 1: salmon is a really good place to get this, but
Speaker 1: extra virgin olive oil that is pure is also a
Speaker 1: really great way, as long as it's raw, not used
Speaker 1: in cooking because that defeats the health benefits. And then
Speaker 1: magnesium is the other one that I recommend. So many
Speaker 1: people are deficient in magnesium. It's one of the top
Speaker 1: things that people are deficient in when you talk about anxiety,
Speaker 1: immune health, adrenal support. Just making sure you know it's
Speaker 1: how we absorb vitamin D. It is so so crucial.
Speaker 1: I also love to recommend people do like magnesium salt soaks,
Speaker 1: like when you're pmsing rate for muscle health. So it
Speaker 1: can be a really big game changer too.
Speaker 2: One I've looked two more questions. I have an ultrasound
Speaker 2: later today because I keep getting fibroids and sis.
Speaker 3: Why does that happen in women? Is it hormone related.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, So fibroids and endometriosis, I kind of categorize
Speaker 1: them together because they form from the same problem, which
Speaker 1: is estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance is not that your estrogen's
Speaker 1: crazy high, but that in relationship to progesterone, the ratio
Speaker 1: is off, so you have way more estrogen than progesterone.
Speaker 1: And this is also a really big reason why women
Speaker 1: sometimes will struggle with infertility is low progesterone. You have
Speaker 1: to have a certain amount of progesterone to sustain pregnancy.
Speaker 1: But what happens with endometriosis in fibroids is that that
Speaker 1: estrogen rich environment allows these estrogenic related conditions to develop.
Speaker 1: So that's where you get things like fibroids, and then
Speaker 1: even indometrios is specifically, it's such a vicious cycle. Endometrial
Speaker 1: tissue also secretes estrogen, so you get a patient who's
Speaker 1: estrogen dominant with indimetrial lesions, you do everything you can
Speaker 1: to fix their estrogen dominance, but you're really fighting an
Speaker 1: uphill battle because it's also secreting estrogen, so it can
Speaker 1: be a really challenging thing to get on top of
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a personal question? Oh yeah, about fertility?
Speaker 6: One hundred percent?
Speaker 2: Okay, we've chatted in obviously the room you've been trying
Speaker 2: How long have you been trying to have a baby?
Speaker 6: About three years? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to know what you know
Speaker 2: and then to feel helpless not to be able to
Speaker 2: be like, like, you know all the ins and outs
Speaker 2: of medicine and you know how to help so many people.
Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to go why? Like how
Speaker 2: can I not? Like what can I do? Or why
Speaker 2: am I not doing this? And like what can you
Speaker 2: say those people? Because a lot of people listening also
Speaker 2: have in fertility issues and so what are you doing
Speaker 2: to control also that, because that's got to be really hard,
Speaker 2: Like you know everything, so it's like why then why
Speaker 2: can you not be pregnant?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: And I'm also like why can't she? Because I'm like
Speaker 2: she knows everything I know? Yeah, so uh in here
Speaker 2: just kind but I just want to.
Speaker 6: Found out now I'm happy to talk about it.
Speaker 3: And here was your switch to functional mines.
Speaker 1: This is the whole reason. Yeah, this is why I
Speaker 1: got into it. So the first time I had surgery
Speaker 1: on my reproductive organs, I was in the seventh grade.
Speaker 1: And that's when I was diagnosed with indometriosis. After so
Speaker 1: many doctors telling me I was crazy, they told my
Speaker 1: parents I needed to see a psychiatrist like all these things,
Speaker 1: and all that was really happening is that I had
Speaker 1: into matriosis. After that is when I found out I
Speaker 1: had uterin fibroids. So it's really just kind of been
Speaker 1: a downhill slope for my reproductive health since like middle school,
Speaker 1: and it was not that long ago. I guess it
Speaker 1: was the end of twenty twenty one, and I distinctly
Speaker 1: remember talking to my doctor. My husband and I were
Speaker 1: getting ready to do things like IUI so we could
Speaker 1: try for you know, pregnancy, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: can I do? There has to be something I can do,
Speaker 1: Like how can I support my body to just stop
Speaker 1: this from just getting worse? And she literally just said nothing.
Speaker 1: She was like, maybe IVF, and not that I'm opposed
Speaker 1: to IVF whatsoever, but you know, I'd love to try
Speaker 1: other things first if that's possible, And that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: That's how I got into functional medicine. I went home
Speaker 1: literally that day and I just went to Google, and
Speaker 1: I was like, what can I do for this? I
Speaker 1: found the Institute of Functional Medicine. I found a ton
Speaker 1: of resources. I learned that high dose spidamin D can
Speaker 1: suppress things like uterine fibroids. I found out about estrogen dominance.
Speaker 1: Realized I'd been suffering from estrogen dominance my entire life
Speaker 1: and the only thing that they had done for me
Speaker 1: was put me on birth control, which, so we're on
Speaker 1: the same page, puts our hormones in a state of menopause.
Speaker 6: So I've been in menopause.
Speaker 1: My hormones had because I didn't have a cycle for
Speaker 1: sixteen years because I was on continuous birth control. Wow,
Speaker 1: And all my doctors were like, yeah, it's fine, because
Speaker 1: it's controlling your endometriosis.
Speaker 6: That is not fine.
Speaker 1: You have to ovulate, you have to have a cycle.
Speaker 1: That is what's normal, and that is how the body
Speaker 1: is supposed to function. And so through all this I discovered, Wow,
Speaker 1: like I there is so much more opportunity here. I
Speaker 1: think for me personally, I'm backtracking quite a bit. I
Speaker 1: also have a ton of scar tissue. So I've been
Speaker 1: working with some other doctors like acupuncture and whatnot to
Speaker 1: try and really get away from that as much as possible.
Speaker 1: And I think that's my biggest issue, is like my
Speaker 1: literal ability to implant. The inside of my uterus is
Speaker 1: full of scar tissue unfortunately, so there's just not a
Speaker 1: lot of viable tissue.
Speaker 3: But have you got that scraped out because I had
Speaker 3: scar tissue that had to be scraped out.
Speaker 1: Well the last time I did in twenty twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm honestly probably do. But yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: biggest thing is if you have things like horrendous PMS
Speaker 1: symptoms or PCOS or whatever. First of all, birth control
Speaker 1: is not the answer. But second of all, that is
Speaker 1: just not normal. Like PMS is not normal. That is
Speaker 1: a sign that you have estrogen dominance, super heavy bleeding,
Speaker 1: crazy cramping, feeling like you just you know, mood swings
Speaker 1: are all over the place. That is just not how
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. And instead of suppressing it with
Speaker 1: birth control, the best thing we can do is figure
Speaker 1: out how to get on top of it.
Speaker 6: If you can get on top of it, you don't
Speaker 6: have to go through what I've gone through. I spent
Speaker 6: years being cut open and my hormone suppressed, thinking that
Speaker 6: was the way, and it was actually opposite and has
Speaker 6: significantly reduced my odds for fertility as I sit here
Speaker 6: at thirty.
Speaker 3: So what are your percentages of fertility now?
Speaker 1: So when they told me in twenty twenty one, they
Speaker 1: told me maybe like a thirty to forty percent chance. Says,
Speaker 1: I have pretty extensive endometriosis, Like it's on my bowl
Speaker 1: and it's like in my bladder and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But that's also because this entire time, I
Speaker 1: could have been doing stuff to get rid of my
Speaker 1: estrogen dominance, and I just had no idea. Like I
Speaker 1: had no idea that the plastic I was eating out
Speaker 1: of every single day was giving me plastic toxicity, or
Speaker 1: that my teflon pans were giving me heavy metal toxicity,
Speaker 1: or that how I was choosing to eat and support
Speaker 1: my body nutritionally, like not consuming progesterone rich foods for example. Like,
Speaker 1: I just had no idea all the stuff I could
Speaker 1: be doing. And if you're able to catch it on
Speaker 1: the front end, I think you can save yourself a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble.
Speaker 4: Well, that's why, So would you recommend? Because again, I
Speaker 4: have a thirteen year old daughter middle school, you know,
Speaker 4: started her period a couple you know, that's scary to
Speaker 4: think about, Like you don't go to the doctor, you
Speaker 4: don't have these things checked at this age, right, it's
Speaker 4: not until you know, a friend of hers could barely
Speaker 4: get out of bed that she finally was like you
Speaker 4: have to take all her labs, like something is not
Speaker 4: right here to figure out that her iron was extremely low,
Speaker 4: her vitamin D was dangerously low.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: So it's like, what can people do? And I know,
Speaker 4: you know, we all want as moms to get healthy,
Speaker 4: but we also are moms who have to think about
Speaker 4: our girls, Like that's terrifying to think all this started
Speaker 4: at that age. Yeah, and how do we prevent that
Speaker 4: for our daughters?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Absolutely. I was placed on birth control when I was twelve,
Speaker 6: and it's definitely.
Speaker 4: Not because I was sexually I have so many friends
Speaker 4: that are like, when they're fifteen, they're getting on birth control,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, yeah, please don't do it.
Speaker 1: It's so detrimental to hormones. So what you can do.
Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about it. But I think
Speaker 1: when it comes to estrogen dominance, specifically talks and exposure
Speaker 1: is huge in the world that we live in today.
Speaker 1: You have to go out of your way to really
Speaker 1: accomplish this. You have to find the glass containers for
Speaker 1: food storage. You know, Stanley's in the similar are really
Speaker 1: popular right now. You need to find brands that are
Speaker 1: not rich in things like heavy metals. You need to
Speaker 1: encourage them and this is something I was terrible about
Speaker 1: growing up. But you need to encourage them to have
Speaker 1: a well rounded diet, Like a lot of the stuff
Speaker 1: that we talked about earlier is so important. I always
Speaker 1: talk about the phido nutrient spectrum, which just means the
Speaker 1: more colorful the fruits and the vegetables, the more nutrient
Speaker 1: dense they are. You just want to have like the
Speaker 1: rainbow on your plate. And that's a really, really good
Speaker 1: way to support it. The other things that you can
Speaker 1: do is check out their stress. How are they coping
Speaker 1: with stress. I don't know about y'all, but when I
Speaker 1: went to school, it wasn't a great time. I had
Speaker 1: a stressful school experience for sure. Lots of bullying, you know,
Speaker 1: lots of things that we deal with as women lots
Speaker 1: of mean girl scenarios, and I think that played a
Speaker 1: really really big role in my mental health. And kind
Speaker 1: of like we talked about earlier, it can affect kids too.
Speaker 1: Those adrenals affect the thyroid, affect the sex hormones. You
Speaker 1: see girls, teenage girls in today's world get heavily affected
Speaker 1: by stuff like that and it really puts their mental
Speaker 1: state in a negative mindset, which can also perpetuate the
Speaker 1: estrogen dominance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Nicole, thank you so much for sharing your story.
Speaker 2: It's obviously heartbreaking how you got into functional medicine, but
Speaker 2: thank you for what you do because you're helping a
Speaker 2: lot of people. Where can our listeners find you if
Speaker 2: they have questions, like tell us, tell us all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the best place to find me is
Speaker 1: through Instagram, So that's primarily my social media. My Instagram
Speaker 1: is Nicole Stroup, which is st r p NP for
Speaker 1: Nurse Practitioner, and any updates I have through my workplace
Speaker 1: will always be through there and definitely the best way
Speaker 1: to get in contact with me and schedule an appointment.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you Nicole so much.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yi