1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and Imheart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: So obviously we're still in January. Do you guys like 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: the whole New Year, New You thing? 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Like? 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 2: Do you like when putin I couldn't even finish my 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: sentence to get it out before we knew that one 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: kit Cat came on? 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: What about new Year? Well? What about New Year, New you? 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 3: Do you not like? 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 4: I just think there's a lot of pressure. 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: I like you, guys, I have a theory about this. 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 5: Are you ready? You're gonna like my way of doing life? Okay, 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 5: January is not New Year, New You. It's just a 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 5: new year, and you get all of January to figure 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 5: out what are my goals and then you can start 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 5: in February and it's the shortest month, so that feels 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 5: cozy to but I feel like. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: The February is also putting pressure on the February and 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: then the rest of the year. 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 5: I think what Cat's point just said, Oh I know 21 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 5: what you're saying. Okay, So no, I just think any like, 22 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: I don't really do resolutions, Yeah, but I don't even 23 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 5: like pressure on myself to even find a word or 24 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 5: whatever anybody does. 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: Just January, just take a minute. 26 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think like I like like I like 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 4: the like the feeling of like a starting over, like 28 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: like the work. I really love it, like, Okay, what's 29 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: the plan for this year? What's the Like it feels 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 4: like a slow build usually for work, but like you 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: can focus, Like I like that part of it, But 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: I don't like the like what's your news resolution, what's 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: your you know, and like I did do stuff lash January, 34 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 4: but this January, you know what, I'm just kind of 35 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: like not putting on a pressure on myself. 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: Because last January was it was prepping for the wedding, 37 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: right yeah, like I'm going to do PMS program and 38 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: just like I did because. 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: That's when it started, right, Yeah, it was like January 40 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: eighth or something, which was fine, Like I think I 41 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: handled that okay, But then I think what happened for 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: this year because I did gain some weight back that 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 4: I was like kind of putting that pressure on myself 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: to do it again. Yeah you know what I mean. 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know, I don't know that I 46 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: really want that pressure on myself. Like I'm happy, I'm good. 47 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: Do you weigh yourself? 49 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 6: Yeah? 50 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: How often do you weigh yourself. 51 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 4: I mean I weigh myself every day. You weigh every day, 52 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 4: Like I've said, it is not a mental thing for me. Really, 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: It truly is to keep up with Like I wouldn't 54 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 4: know probably that I was gaining weight if I didn't. 55 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 3: Well, I think none of us were structured pants anymore, right, Exactly, 56 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: there's no U. 57 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: And you're like, okay, like I'm getting a little you know, 58 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: like I just always have. But when I was thirty 59 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: pounds heavier, it truly didn't really affect me in like 60 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: a mental weight where it does a lot of people. 61 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: So so like I mean, like when the number goes 62 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: up or something you don't see, you say, that doesn't. 63 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: Affect you men? 64 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 2: Really no, So then I guess why do you weigh 65 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: yourself every day just to like get nice thing? 66 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: That's like, I'm just like you really. 67 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 4: Kind of have it. I think from losing. It's more 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: from when I was losing, I had to weigh myself 69 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 4: every day to see if I was and that definitely 70 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 4: helped me in the losing process. Yeah, but it's not 71 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 4: like I get on the scale and see another number 72 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: and then get you know, I'm like, hey, I should 73 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: probably get that in check and do better. But like 74 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: it doesn't really, but I know it does a lot 75 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: of people, and I'm not a fan of that for 76 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: a lot of people. 77 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm one of those people. 78 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, which one are you? Oh the number 79 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: will effect me? 80 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: Oh it will. 81 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: It will mentally throw me so down the rabbit hole 82 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: that I won't, like not eat if it's a number 83 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: over like, I won't eat, I'll like do that whole thing. 84 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked about this before, but it's it's 85 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: a total mind Yeah for me, Yeah, I feel like. 86 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: Why I have to preface that by I do that. 87 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: But for me, I have not found it to be 88 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: an unhealthy habit, sure, whereas it can be a very 89 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: unhealthy habit for a lot of people. 90 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: So for me now, because I know muscle is so 91 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 5: good for me, and I've been I've weighed so much 92 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: more than I do now because I had good muscle 93 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 5: and I felt strong. Gosh, that was like I felt 94 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: so hot in that moment. But I don't. It doesn't 95 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: do that to me now, which is good. I would 96 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: say I'm a good balance right in the middle. Right now, Well, 97 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 5: that's got to be very like positive. 98 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: It feels good you know what I mean, Like, that's 99 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: got to feel good to see your mental health kind 100 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: of change around that. 101 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: That's so very cool. 102 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: But now it was weird because when I lost all 103 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 5: the weight after the baby, it was because I lost 104 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 5: the muscle because I couldn't work. 105 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: Out when I got so sad. Yeah, and that was weird. Sure, 106 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 3: But then there are times where I will. 107 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 5: Get on this scale to get myself back in check. Yeah, 108 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 5: because I have body dysmorphia in the way that I 109 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: think it's so much more than it is. 110 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: And then I get on there and I'm like, Okay, Kristen, calm. 111 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 5: Down right, right, But it's just weird to gauge again 112 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: because we're not wearing real clothes hardly ever, seriously, Like 113 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: it's a weird. 114 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 4: I know, occasionally I put on my geens, I'm like, 115 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: did they fit like this last time? I don't really remember. 116 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 3: No, But it's great because now you don't even remember. 117 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 6: It's actually Burvan. 118 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: It's like, I don't know, maybe they fit just like this, 119 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: but it's been so long I can't. 120 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: I just want to be healthy. I think that that's 121 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 4: my thing. Like I'm gonna like not stress about the 122 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: number on the thing. I just want to be healthy. 123 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: I want to get on my you know, all my 124 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: levels good, all those things well. 125 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: And that is why we are doing this episode today. 126 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: If you're hearing some noise in the background too, We've 127 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: got our girl Nicole here and we're going to introduce her. 128 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: She's going to put one more IVY and I was like, 129 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,679 Speaker 2: I just got an IVY because I'm like, oh, Nicole's 130 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: on the rundown today. I was like, oh, I was 131 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: like Ivy's girls. I get so excited. But you know, 132 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: I think it's hard. I'm just gonna say this so 133 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: and then we'll you know, we'll intro Nicole after she's 134 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: poked kyb here. 135 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: But I how do I say this? 136 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: Because I don't want to discredit I don't want to 137 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 2: discredit doctors because they have a very obviously important job 138 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: and what they do is very important. But there's I 139 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: think a different level of Uh. I don't want to 140 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: say it's not science, it's a different level of really 141 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: looking at blood work in a way that my doctor 142 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: he would just draw the regular panel of vitamin D 143 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: and iron. But I don't know, I've never truly gotten 144 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: until last year, a full panel of all of my 145 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 2: levels checked because post Roman I was so screwed up. Yes, 146 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 2: And I didn't even realize how messed up I was 147 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: until I went to a place that and what do 148 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: you how do you even like functional medical? Functional medicine. 149 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a good mix between like super western and Eastern. 150 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: And we'll have Nicole, you know, describe functional medicine. But 151 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: it was eye opening to me because I didn't realize, 152 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: I didn't realize how much I needed it. 153 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: Well, what's wild? 154 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 5: And she can go into depth with this when she's 155 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 5: done sticking in them. What's wild is what is considered 156 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 5: normal and what is considered Like, you're fine because your 157 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 5: level's at a certain level, but in reality, like how 158 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 5: they get those numbers and what what why they come 159 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 5: up with those numbers is so crazy and vast that 160 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: it doesn't apply to every single person. 161 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing too, because they're they're they're 162 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: reading it different. Yes, they're also going to go into 163 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: depth right in a different level. 164 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: For me, the whole reason I went is not necessarily 165 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 4: because I felt bad or you know, like I felt 166 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: you know, It was more the whole like vitamin thing 167 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: was so stressful to me. Yeah, there are so many 168 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 4: you hear all these things? Do you take this? 169 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: Do you take that as I'm posting like fifteen supplements? 170 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: But I'm like yeah, but I was actually also taking 171 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: all those supplements down, and I'm like, is this too much? 172 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: Like is there actually a reverse? 173 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: You know? 174 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 175 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: And I'd look at it like, well I should get that, 176 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: and I should I don't know. So I finally just 177 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 4: went and I was like, what do I need? 178 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: Well? 179 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: Also, it's wild too, because even brands of vitamins matter, 180 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 5: like you can't you know, like certain vitamins don't dilute well, 181 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 5: like the quality of the caseine and encapsulation, like all 182 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: of that matters too, And so then when you start 183 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: digging into that, it gets really overwhelming. 184 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: I think, well, and that's why you are the one 185 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: that actually maybe was the one that introduced me to 186 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Nicole and all functional medicine. And I honestly it's not 187 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: that I didn't I guess. I just I'm like, well, 188 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: why didn't why didn't our doctors tell us this? Like 189 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: why didn't our doctors run these panels and go, oh, 190 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: you are so low in X, Y and Z. But 191 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: there's just a whole level of more depth and in 192 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: functional medicine. So let's take a quick break and then 193 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: let's get Nicole on and dive right into it. Nicole, 194 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the show. Last year, 195 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: I came into your office and I was so embarrassed 196 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 2: because I mean, she doesn't know me that well, not 197 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: well enough, obviously, not even close to like you girls, 198 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 2: even though she's you know, looking at my poop samples 199 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: and everything that that, like you know, she's we've given her. 200 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: It gets intimate fast, Okay, it sure does. 201 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: But I just started like bawling because she's like and 202 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, i. 203 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 6: Don't even know why I'm crying. 204 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm not happy and I don't know. 205 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: And then she and I was like, I'm so sorry, 206 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: and like, how many do people A lot of people 207 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: just come in your office and cry. 208 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 6: Well, she's like, well, like you too. 209 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: I think krist and I have had like a weekly 210 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: cry sash together for at least a couple of months now. 211 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, a hey girl. 212 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 2: It was like, well, it's hard because you feel like 213 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know why I felt the way that I felt. 214 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I went to therapy and and 215 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: she's telling me I'm not depressed. I'm like, then, why 216 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: do I feel depressed? Why do I feel like I 217 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: can't get out of bed? Why do I feel so tired? 218 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: Why do I like feel just like brain foggy? 219 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: And you, you. 220 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: Know, you obviously said the things that you said, but 221 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: I guess just go into what So take me, for example, 222 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 2: take my case and talk about what we did and 223 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: how you kind of got me on the other path 224 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: and what you saw in my blood work and things 225 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: like that. 226 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, obviously you came to me super postpartum and 227 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: you had a lot of hormone abnormalities because of that. 228 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 6: And I think you know, Kristin and. 229 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: I we've talked a good bit about this, but there 230 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: is a stigma around postpartum care that the fatigue, the anxiety, 231 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: the overwhelm is normal. And sure, certainly to a certain 232 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: degree it is normal. But I think in women's health, especially, 233 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: you go in and you try and talk to your 234 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: doctor about these things, and they just shove you off 235 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: quite a bit. They don't look at hormones the same 236 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: way we do in functional medicine. And you had quite 237 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: a bit of hormone dysfunction and so correcting that and 238 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: then also discovering that you had a heavy viral load 239 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: that's been suppressing your immune system, suppressing your hormone function. 240 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: So we're still working on that, but you know, detoxing 241 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: that and essentially just getting your body back where it 242 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: needs to be so you can fully function and produce 243 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: hormones and feel good the way that you're supposed to 244 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: be feeling. 245 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: So and then what was the EBV? So everyone has EBV, 246 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: but what my case was a viral like I had 247 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: a high? Like what like when you look at the 248 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 2: blood work, what do you normally see in Is everybody's 249 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: blood work different like obviously all three of ours are? 250 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: Is all of ours so different? Or do you see 251 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: something that's common thread within women's blood. 252 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Work, Within women's blood work in general, definitely hormone dysfunction, 253 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: especially in our age. You know, I'm thirty, y'all are 254 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: in your forties. Thank you love testauster, sorry, we're all 255 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: twenty one. Especially at this age, we see a huge 256 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: decline in testosterone. And there is this kind of theory 257 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: in society that as you age, you just start to 258 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: feel really bad, and so people start to feel things 259 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: like increased anxiety and fatigue and low libido and brain fog. 260 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, this is it. I've hit thirty five, 261 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I've hit forty. This is you know, this is what 262 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: all the generations before me say. But that's actually the case. 263 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: It's just because that's when our hormones start to decline. 264 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: And so that's definitely the commonality I see amongst our 265 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: age group. EBV should not be elevated in everybody. That is, 266 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: you have that special, that special thing about you. But 267 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Epstein bar a lot of people get it from having mono. 268 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: But you know, when you talk about medicine, the thing 269 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: that separates us is we can all come into contact 270 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: with the same pathogen, the same exposure, but you have 271 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: to be susceptible to be able to develop that and 272 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: to be able to not overcome it. And I think 273 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: that's where a lot of people get caught up, especially 274 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to like genetic predispositions. We all have 275 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: stuff in our history that's lingering in the background that 276 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: we're scared of that we're like, oh, my gosh, you 277 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: know my parents had this, my grandparents had this. I 278 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: do not want to develop this, And that doesn't have 279 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: to be the case, like your genetics do not define you. 280 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: We are absolutely in control of the expression of our genes, 281 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: which is what is epigenetics is we can turn our 282 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: genes off and on if you have you will power 283 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: and dedication to seek out the healthcare that you need, 284 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: to seek out people who know what to look forward 285 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're setting yourself up for success 286 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: in the future. 287 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 5: I just think that's such a refreshing statement because I 288 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: remember the first time you told me, like my husband especially, 289 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 5: is like, well, if you look at my you know, 290 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 5: look at my dad, like because he doesn't come from 291 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 5: like super athletic builds necessarily or like, you know, like 292 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 5: he didn't. I come from a very stocky, sporty family, 293 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 5: Like all of them look like little tater tots. They 294 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 5: grow muscles in their sleep, and they were always all athletic, 295 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: and so I never like, my mom is really spunky 296 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 5: and young and like you know, and so I have 297 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: never felt that, like, oh, well, genetics will lead me 298 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 5: to this. But I kind of was introduced to that 299 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 5: when I met Preston Is He's like, well, you know, 300 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: this runs my family or that runs my family whatever, 301 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 5: And then he had Bell's palsy twice and functional medicine 302 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 5: was the only thing. The only people you and Nate 303 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: the only people that would say this isn't in cure right. 304 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 5: Everyone else is like, it's just bad luck. Even head 305 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 5: of head. 306 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: Of neurology at Vanderbilt was like, bad luck. 307 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that leaves people feeling hopeless, and when you're hopeless, 308 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 5: that's biblical. Even right, hope deferred makes a heart sick. 309 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: But like losing hope in anything makes you so frustrated. 310 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 5: So like when I sit down with you and you're like, 311 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: what's wild? I do want to talk about this, because 312 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 5: I think we all share this too. What's wild is 313 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: that I'm like, I don't know why I feel like 314 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 5: the way I feel like I feel. Okay, I feel 315 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: so satisfied with life and content whatever, but I was 316 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 5: still feeling like I'm super anxious waking up at two 317 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: or three in the morning. And Nicole is like calling 318 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 5: it out. You're like, Okay, do you feel like this? 319 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: Do you feel like this? Do you feel like this? 320 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: And are you waking up between two and three in 321 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 5: the morning? And I'm like, that's weird. How would you 322 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 5: even know that? And that's because tell us why women 323 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 5: sometimes wake up between two and three in the morning. 324 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so very stereotypical. What we call a drenal fatigue. 325 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: I refer to our adrenal glance, like our stress resiliency system. 326 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: They produce two main hormones DHA, but also cordisol, which 327 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: is our stress hormone. Cortisol is notorious for trying to 328 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: peak at night when we want to sleep, and it 329 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: has that inverse relationship with melatonin. So if it's peaking, 330 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: melatonin's down and your body's like, oh, it's time to 331 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: start the day, and you're like, wait a second, it's 332 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: two am. This is not how things are supposed to be, 333 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: And then the opposite thing can happen. We can see 334 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: it declined throughout the day, which means melotonin rises, which 335 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: is why people oftentimes get that one to three pm 336 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: afternoon fog. They tend to definitely go hand in hand. 337 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: But cortisol abnormalities and adrenal fatigue comes from chronic stress, 338 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: chronic repetitive trauma. And it's not even necessarily that you're 339 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: going through a lot of stress right here right now, 340 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: Like you may be recovered from the stress previously, but 341 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: your body carries that stress with you. We call it 342 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: the alastatic load. Your body literally hangs on to that trauma, 343 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes it has a really, really hard time getting 344 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: back to baseline because we have to take some extra 345 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: steps to be able to encourage it to be like, Hey, 346 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: this is what you're supposed to be doing, this is 347 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: how we're supposed to be operating. 348 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you know that 349 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: you would tell people you know how to help with 350 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: the crowning stress. 351 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a few things lifestyle modifications that are free. 352 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: These are the easiest ways to start. 353 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 6: Sunlight. 354 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: Direct sunlight first thing in the morning, ten to fifteen minutes, 355 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: like immediately after you wake up, can absolutely change your life. 356 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: It makes such a big difference other things that I 357 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: find or people typically are electrolyte deficient when they have 358 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: adrenal fatigue. I have a little adrenal quote unquote cocktail 359 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: that I like to recommend to people, which is like 360 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Maldarn's Real Salt or Maldron's Sea Salt or Redman's Real 361 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: Salt combined with like a vitamin C component, like a 362 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: tropical juice that you squeeze yourself and then like coconut water, 363 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: for example, for potassium. So that's a little cocktail you 364 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: can do in the morning. That's actually what I do. 365 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I literally make that and then I sit outside and 366 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: stare at the sunlight with my dog while he goes 367 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. So it makes it easy for me. 368 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: But you can also do things at night. I'm a big, 369 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: big advocate of red light therapy before bed to help 370 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: lower our cord is all lower inflammation. Setting the tone 371 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: for a good night's sleep, you know, avoid the blue light, 372 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: avoid the TV, the cell phone, give yourself a nice, dark, quiet, 373 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: old atmosphere. The body temp is supposed to decline in 374 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: the evening, so we want to encourage that. And then 375 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: additionally things like meditation, deep breathing exercises and yoga. 376 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 6: I know, I can see you smiling. 377 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: I remember the first time I was like, listen, Jana, 378 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: we have to implement these things, I know. 379 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: And I was, oh my god, She's just like. 380 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: I just mind yoga so boring. But Nicole did. She 381 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 3: got me in this company and I'm obsessed with that's 382 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: called loom Box. 383 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: It is. 384 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 2: It is a little pricey, but it's fantastic and it's 385 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 2: red light therapy. So I've really been loving that. Actually 386 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 2: I did it this morning though, but yes, well that's okay. 387 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: I mean I like it at night because it naturally 388 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: helps to lower your cortisol levels. But certainly if you're 389 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: only able to do it in the morning, like I 390 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: will take that over not doing it at all. I 391 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: know there's different supplements you can take too, you know, 392 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: different like stress relieving supplements, Ashwagonda's really really popular, Holy 393 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: Basils and other really popular ones. So, but taking I 394 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: think the most important takeaway is that taking care of 395 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: yourself is the most important thing. I think as women 396 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: were all givers, and especially you ladies with kids, like 397 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: you're oftentimes the last person you're thinking about, and that 398 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: plays a huge role in your ability to cope with stress. 399 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 6: I think it's really. 400 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: Underappreciated how self care is so important. It's so important, 401 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: and I think as moms especially, it's easy to forget. 402 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: You know, you're taking care of everyone else, so you 403 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: have to have someone who's taking care of you as well. 404 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 5: I want to ask you one thing, because we are 405 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 5: in the thick of January and a lot of places 406 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 5: are cold and dark, so do the sun lamps work 407 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: the same as like the Teminus sunlight because even here 408 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 5: in Nashville we may get some unshine, which is like 409 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 5: I think my only claim to fame still because it's 410 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 5: getting too cold for my liking. 411 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know why I'm here. 412 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: It's some place warm, but like is it, like do 413 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: the sun lamps actually work? Like I know a lot 414 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 5: of Michigan, like Jane and I are both from Michigan, 415 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 5: and it gets really sad and it's really dark, yes 416 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 5: and cold. 417 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 6: Mm hmm. 418 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: That's a great question because you're spot on, especially here 419 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: in Nashville. You know, January's where we typically experience that 420 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: first snow and like nobody's going outside to sit and 421 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: stare at the sun, you know, in a couple of 422 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: inches of snow or whatever. But the sunlight lamps are great, 423 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: and I highly advocate for them when we're not in 424 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: the ability to go out and get that direct sunlight. 425 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: So because it's not always practical. The biggest thing we're 426 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: wanting is vitamin D two. So a lot of people 427 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: will supplement with things like vitamin D three K two 428 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: in the winner to help support that. 429 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: And then they have to have the K two in it, right, Yeah, 430 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: something that's to know the vitamin D needs the K. 431 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: Two absolutely, yeah, So vitamin D K two is what 432 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: helps us to actually absorb vitamin D. But even as 433 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: we talk about like transitioning in life like Perry postmenopause, 434 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: when you talk about your estrogen levels going down so 435 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 1: you're starting to develop things like osteoporosis, you'll oftentimes hear 436 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: that people are taking calcium supplements. But if you are 437 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: not taking vitamin D with your calcium, you're not going 438 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: to absorb it well. And if you're not taking vitamin 439 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: K with your D and your calcium, that calcium is 440 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: actually going to go towards plaque build up, so atherosclerosis, 441 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: which can lead to cardiovascular disease, versus being reabsorbed back 442 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: into the bone where obviously we actually want it since 443 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: we're trying to reduce things like osteoporosis, very very important. 444 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 4: So this is I get them a touch on this 445 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: real fast. This is where I get very frustrated. So 446 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 4: you don't work with children, right. 447 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: Not typically like I see kids from time to time, 448 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: but I much more work. 449 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to change a subject, but it has 450 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 4: to do with the vitamin D. So when I took 451 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 4: my fifteen year old boy and my almost thirteen year 452 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: old girl to their regular pediatrician visits. The boy is 453 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: supposed to be taking calcium, the girls are supposed to 454 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: be taking vitamin D, and I'm like, is anyone going 455 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,719 Speaker 4: to mention anything else? So like, should they also be 456 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 4: taking vitamin D plus K two? 457 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 6: Yeah? 458 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: So with pediatrics, like I said, adults are my specialty, 459 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: but generally speaking yes, Yeah, generally speaking yes, and most 460 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: children's vitamins, like the well rounded quality ones will also 461 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: include that in there to a very small degree. 462 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. That's just where I get frustrated, because now that 463 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 4: I know that, I'm like, is anyone gonna tell me that? 464 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: But also with super frustrating, and I'm going to just 465 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 2: go on top of this. I was sitting there talking 466 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 2: to her about Nicole about vaccines, and I was struggling. 467 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: I was like, listen, I'm going to give some and 468 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm some of them I'm having really tough time with 469 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: and I just don't know. And she was, well, don't 470 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: do tailan al. You know the one thing the damned 471 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: doctor say before and after, make sure you give them 472 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: tilan all if be there before or after. And She's 473 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: like do not give talan all because I say or 474 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: after vaccines. 475 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: I mean, ever, if I had it my way, It's interesting. 476 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Research actually shows of all the medications in the world, 477 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: tyland All is considered one of the most dangerous medications 478 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: on the market. 479 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 6: It's yeah, I know, and especially to. 480 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: Follow that like post vaccine, I think what happens to 481 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people is, you know, in today's vaccine world, 482 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: kids are getting a lot of vaccines at once, a ton, 483 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: back to back to back to back. It's you know, 484 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things in vaccines outside of just 485 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: this stuff that we want, a lot of metals and 486 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: whatnot that are used for preservative purposes. However, when you 487 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: flood the body with a whole bunch of different heavy 488 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: metals that are in these vaccines and then you give 489 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: them thileanol, thileanol depletes glutathion, which is our master antioxidant, 490 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: which is what protects us from things like heavy metal toxicity. 491 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: Do you talk about kids who experience things like vaccine injuries? 492 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: And this is a really really big reason why we 493 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: see this. So yeah, post vaccine, no tileanol. 494 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: Because it takes away the gluteithion, or it not takes 495 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: it away, but it blocks it enough. 496 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 6: It blocks it. Yeah, isn't that insane. 497 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to like go into my pediatric 498 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: and pediatrician and be like, why are you telling me this? 499 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: Why are you telling all of this? 500 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 4: It's just so hard because I do believe in functional 501 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 4: medicine obviously, but I also do believe in my kids 502 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: going to the pediatrician and vaccines, and so it's just 503 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 4: like this balance, but I don't feel like I'm getting 504 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: all the correct and for it. It's just it overwhelms me. 505 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: It completely overwhelms me. 506 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 5: You've been like, functional medicine to me has always been 507 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 5: like the good balance for me because holistic medicine is 508 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 5: beautiful and lovely and I've done that and it was 509 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 5: effective ish, but there is I mean, listen, I'm sitting 510 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 5: here with rods in my back, Like I believe in 511 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 5: modern medicine and I believe in doctors and nurses and 512 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 5: all of those things. I just also feel like it 513 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 5: doesn't have to be all or nothing, and it felt 514 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 5: like there was nothing right in the middle. Yes, and 515 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 5: so to sit with someone that has a brain like 516 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 5: yours and say, like, you know, I don't want to 517 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: be on zoloft postpartum, and I was in it while 518 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: it was lovely and it helped me at the time 519 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 5: mood wise, it also made me not super want to 520 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 5: have sex that sucked because I really enjoy that, like sure, 521 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 5: and it makes me feel like a girlfriend, and that 522 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 5: makes you feel better postpartum, you know, like so to 523 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 5: sit with you and say, like you can come off 524 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: of that. We have to be careful how we do 525 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 5: it and slow, but like just all of those things 526 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 5: where and I never want to throw any obs under 527 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 5: the bus because quite honestly, I have like the cream 528 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: of the crop. 529 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: I think she's brilliant. 530 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 5: That is what is suggested pretty quickly when you do 531 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 5: the postpartum checklist and you score low. 532 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, okay, we need to. 533 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 5: Look into something, and it is effective and helpful. 534 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 6: It is. 535 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 5: But also my body was a train wreck. I mean 536 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 5: my first round of labs, it was like no testosterone 537 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: at all, right, I mean like at a three. 538 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, namesies, yes, I'm pretty sure y'all. Suveles couldn't even 539 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: be read because they were so low. That's the lesson thereach. 540 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: I didn't but as a forty year old woman, you know, 541 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know that testosterone like we were supposed to. 542 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: We even should have our testosterone taken. Like, so, I'm 543 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: like when you when you were saying like I need 544 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 2: testosterone shots, I'm like, what, Like, isn't that only for men? 545 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 546 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: I was so confused. 547 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I did know that, but I had no 548 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: idea when was that low though. 549 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that you're so shots 550 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 6: anymore now. 551 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 4: But it wasn't really helped me. She was like, well, 552 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 4: then don't do it. 553 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 2: And I was like, see, I noticed that I do 554 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 2: notice the difference when when I don't do the shots. 555 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: I really do, like my energy level is different and 556 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: I feel and now that I'm taking the dhah, which 557 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 2: what is DHA? 558 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: So that is the other hormone that comes from our 559 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: adrenal glance. We're talking about adrenal fatigue. You know, people 560 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: who have experienced lots of chronic stress, lots of previous trauma. 561 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: You can see there's different varying levels. Yeah, Jack, check, 562 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: there's varying levels of adrenal fatigue. And when that DHA 563 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: level starts to go down, when it's low enough, I 564 00:25:54,920 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: will supplement with it. 565 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: You mentioned this earlier where it's even if you're not 566 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: in the PTSD chronic stress or trauma right in this moment, 567 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: it still can be in your body. And I think 568 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: that's something that I've taken to heart because when I'm like, well, 569 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: everything's amazing, I'm getting you know, I was getting married 570 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: and I have a beautiful baby, and you know, life 571 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: is good and work is good, and it's like, why 572 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 2: do I feel like this load? And You're like, well, 573 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: it could still be in you from when your PTSD 574 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: or abusive relationships. And I'm like, what that's like. I 575 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: didn't know how much that really affected the body present. 576 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. It affects you present day. 577 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: And when you talk about hormones as a whole, I 578 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: always try to explain it like think of it like 579 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 1: a like a line, like your adrenals have to work 580 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: for your thyroid to work. Your thyroid has to work 581 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: for your sex hormones to work. So if you have 582 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: hormone dysfunction at the very top, like with your adrenals, 583 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: like what you're experience and saying that's going to give 584 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: you full body repercussions. And so I always start I'm 585 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: always like, you know, treat the adrenals first and then 586 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: go from there because oftentimes if you have that right dysfunction, 587 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 1: it could come from that. Sex hormone dysfunction also comes 588 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: from that, and so treating that in you especially is 589 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: so important. But for everyone else out there, you know, 590 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: it's all the hormones are connected. Our body is one 591 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: giant system, which we're not trained to look at it 592 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: like that. Inconventional medicine. We're actually trained quite the opposite. 593 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: And I can't tell you when I was in commisional 594 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: medicine the number of times I was like, oh no, 595 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't treat that. 596 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 6: You have to see so and so. 597 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: Uh. 598 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: It is not until I went into functional medicine that 599 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: I realized, like, oh wait a second, everything is actually 600 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: related needs to be treated as such. 601 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: So what do you think is the biggest I don't 602 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: want to say fad, but something where you know, obviously 603 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: there's you know, the whole new year, new, this new thing, 604 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: Like what is the thing that you look at and 605 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: you're like, you know this this diet is is there 606 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: a certain diet? They're like, don't do that? Or like 607 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: what is or there is there a product? Or is 608 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: there something? And they're something that you're seeing. That's like, 609 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be promoted the way that's being promoted. 610 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I have two answers to this. 611 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: With the diet, it feels like everyone goes carnivor Keto, 612 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: which I'm not the biggest fan of. I think, you know, 613 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: short term diets, any kind of diet is fine, but 614 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people hop on these diets and then 615 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: they stay on them long term. And what's interesting about 616 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: both of them is typically the people you'll see that 617 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: hop on these diet trends are, you know, people who 618 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: have quite significant weight to lose or they have dealt 619 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: with things like insulin resistance. Do they lose weight, yes, 620 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: But if you already have something like metabolic syndrome or 621 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: insulin resistance, the likelihood is that you already have things 622 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: like high cholesterol, plaque build up, possibly leaning towards that 623 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease state. And when you do something like the 624 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: carnivor diet, you lose all your phyto nutrients. Most people 625 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: are not eating like a colorful plate of fruits and veggies. 626 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: When you do something like keto, same concept, your fats 627 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: go sky high because you're going low carb. Both of 628 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: these can have really negative repercussions in people who are 629 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: probably already experiencing some of this from having insulin resistance 630 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: and being overweight or obese to begin with. So I 631 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: always like to tell people well rounded is the way 632 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: to go. I mean, I think we've all probably heard 633 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: of the Mediterranean diet, but getting things like anti inflammatory 634 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: diet yep, whole whole grains, omega three fatty acids like 635 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: these are some of the best things you can do 636 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: for weight. It's fine to go a little lower carb 637 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and higher fat, but it shouldn't be an all or 638 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: nothing scenario. And I definitely see time and time again 639 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: people who've been on these diets for a long time, 640 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: they actually end up having kind of long term repercussions 641 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: to their health, things like plaque build up and being 642 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: at a higher increased risk for cardiovascular disease. 643 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 6: Down the line. 644 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: What do you think about alcohol? 645 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: So there is a lot of research to say that 646 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: red wine does have its heart health benefits, and red 647 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: wine is actually recommended in the Mediterranean diet. So I 648 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: think everything in moderation. 649 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 2: What would you say is like a moderate like to 650 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: have a glass of wine, Like, what would you say 651 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: is a moderate level or for a week or a month. 652 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: Recommended for a week, probably like one to two glasses 653 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 6: a week. 654 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 5: Wanted to Yes, I have a question when it comes 655 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: to like seafood, because Mediterranean diet is glorious and beautiful. Yes, 656 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 5: we also live in the United States, Yes, and we 657 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 5: specifically live here right in the middle where they're like, yeah, 658 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 5: super landlocked and no. 659 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: Fresh Like where what is our best way to get. 660 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 5: Things like like I can eat salmon now mcause I 661 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 5: know it's good for me, yes, but also if you're 662 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 5: eating not good meat, yes, it's not good for you. 663 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: So if you're not eating great seafood, you might as 664 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 5: well just not eat it at all. 665 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 6: That's fair. 666 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So where do we go? 667 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 6: Yeah? 668 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: And so I think is there a site that you 669 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: order that you like? 670 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: So that's a good question. I still pick up my 671 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: seafood here locally. I'm actually, truthfully, I'm not a huge 672 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: seafood eater. I forced myself to eat salmon a few 673 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: times a week because I know it's good for me, 674 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: but it's not not my jam lean proteins. The other 675 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: way to go chicken and turkey, And I think the 676 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: thing that we can look for and this is accessible 677 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: to anybody depending on where you're located. 678 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 6: Is you just want to find someone. 679 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Who locally produces their meat essentially grass fed, pasture raised. 680 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: That's the most important things you can look for. There 681 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: are some like smaller markets even here locally in Nashville 682 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: that will sell things like this, like your farmer's markets 683 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and whatnot. But typically, you know, in different communities, you 684 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: can ask around and there's usually places or farmers who 685 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: will sell. There's also lots of Facebook pages for this. 686 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm a member of multiple different Facebook pages like Frenchy 687 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: Moms of Tennessee or something like that, who they constantly 688 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: have like people who can produce this stuff and will 689 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: sell it to the general community. So going back to 690 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: the salmon, just so I can also say this too, 691 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: I think there's you know, you hear fresh never frozen, 692 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: and you always want that to be the direction that 693 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,239 Speaker 1: you go. But a lot of the live bacteria that 694 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: live in salmon die when you freeze it. Though it's 695 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: not always the worst thing if your salmon's frozen to 696 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: begin with. 697 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay, great, Going back to women's health and in forties, 698 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: obviously testosterone in hormones. Was there anything else that we 699 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: should be of concern as we age and go into 700 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: perimont and pause or anything else that we should go. Okay, 701 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: we're in our forties now, this is something we should 702 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: really look out for. 703 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 6: Yeah. 704 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: I think when we enter our thirties and forties, that's 705 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 1: when kind of lifestyle things that we've done for a 706 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: long time really start to come into play. And you 707 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: also had asked me earlier about trending supplements, like. 708 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: Don't look at my Starbucks cup? Okay, I like, like, 709 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: I like I saw her to stare at it. I'm like, 710 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up my Chi tea. 711 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 3: Yet. We can only do so much one thing at 712 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: a time, one thing. 713 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 6: At a time. 714 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: Yes, my husband jokes that that is my crutch too. 715 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: So I live an eighty twenty lifestyle. Eighty percent of 716 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: the time I do very well. Twenty percent of the time. 717 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: I drink Starbucks. 718 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: Okay. 719 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think when we start to enter thirties 720 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: and forties, the lifestyle things that we've had, like our 721 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: childhood in teen years is when you really start to 722 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: see those things come to light. So gut dysfunction is 723 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: huge here and I hear it all the time. It's like, oh, 724 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: I've been fine for all these years, and then suddenly 725 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm just getting bloated randomly, or I'm constipated or diarrhea 726 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's typically because things from our childhood 727 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: are really starting to like affect us, like multiple rounds 728 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: of childhood antibiotics, for example. 729 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 2: Or the cherries that we would just eat from, like 730 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: the Marciano cherries. 731 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: That yes, they're really just a vehicle to get sugar 732 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: straight to your bloodstream. 733 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 6: I was always. 734 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: Popping them by the bartender that like is so I 735 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: never liked them. I was the olive girl. But it's 736 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 3: something you. 737 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: Would do the olive girls. So yes, all right, sorry, 738 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: I go back to what you're saying. No, you're totally fine. 739 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think gut health is the other big one, 740 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: and it's important for so many things. Not only do 741 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: you really start to see dysfunction in the thirty thirties 742 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: and forties, but gut health is kind of that gateway 743 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: to develop things like chronic disease. And so I think 744 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: we've all heard the term leaky gut like over and 745 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: over again, which is literally what it sounds like, like 746 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: your cells aren't as close together anymore due to toxins, 747 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: antibiotic stress, YadA YadA, all that good stuff, and so 748 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: different things that we eat or pathogens we come into 749 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: contact to you can start to enter into our body 750 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: in places it's not meant to be, and then our 751 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: body builds up antibodies, and that's when we see things 752 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: like autoimmune conditions develop food sensitivities. Like I think y'all 753 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: both done the food sensitivity test and you're like, oh 754 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm allergic to like eighty different things. Now 755 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: it's just because we have a leaky gut, So our 756 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: gut is like I need to produce antibodies to these 757 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: things that I wouldn't normally. There's also a lot of 758 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: theories out there that this is also kind of the 759 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: developing of the epigenetic changes in the development of things 760 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: like cancer. And so, to answer your question from earlier 761 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: when you were like, are there supplements out there that 762 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: you feel like are trending? All those websites that are like, 763 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: if you just buy this one gut health supplement, you're 764 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: life life will be changed. 765 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 6: Will it help you? Sure? 766 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of them do have good ingredients 767 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: in there, but you're not actually fixing anything. You're kind 768 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: of just adding a layer of like probiotics, which is great, 769 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: and some gut health support, so your symptoms are minimized, 770 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: but what caused it to begin with is actually still 771 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: probably not being treated. 772 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 5: So okay, is there something somebody can do that's listening 773 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: that doesn't have you besides this podcast. 774 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 3: Or a functional medicine place in their area? 775 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: Like, is there like a protocol that you could in 776 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 5: this Maybe a no, that's okay, but like if is 777 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 5: there like a general protocol you could say would be 778 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: helping people get towards like healing from leaky gut or 779 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 5: I have a leaky gut a fence right now because 780 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 5: I have a leaky gut. 781 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 3: We have determined Yes, but also. 782 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: Like you know their overall too, like is it going 783 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 2: to you know, lab blood draw and then having someone 784 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: be able to read Like how does someone even do that? 785 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: And I also know it can be expensive too, so 786 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: what's the Is there a company that you know can 787 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: be a little bit better with the pricing on things? 788 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, So when it comes to really figuring out exactly 789 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: what's going on in the gut, it does generally require 790 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: some comprehensive stool testing, but that being said, I definitely 791 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: have patients who are like, like you said, it's a 792 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: pricey test. So I'm like, you know, they're like, listen, 793 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: I can't afford this, So what can I do? So 794 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: there are some good rules of thumb. There is a 795 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: protocol that I use and I'm happy to share that 796 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: you can kind of just do your best to follow 797 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: with what you know, even if you don't have the 798 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: resources to be able to get like that full fledged 799 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 1: gut program. So it's something I learned from the Institute 800 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: of Functional Medicine. It's called the five R gut program. 801 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: So Step ones remove You want to remove anything that 802 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: you have. Food sensitivities too. If every time that you 803 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: eat gluten you get bloated, you're going to want to 804 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: remove that. You want to remove toxins. You want to 805 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: move alcohol certainly if you do, like you know, vaping 806 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: or anything like that, anything harmful to the body, we 807 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: want to just get rid of that. And then when 808 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: we move on to step two, we're really replacing. So 809 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: what is it about the digestive process that's not functioning? 810 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: This is where have that advanced testing can come into 811 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: hand and come and be useful. But you know, If 812 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: you have acid reflex, you probably have low stomach acid. 813 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: If you have batty looking floating stools that are weird colors, 814 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: your gallbladder's probably sluggish. If you have undigested food in 815 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: your stool, it's probably low pancreatic enzymes. So you want 816 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: to take digestive enzymes or whatever's appropriate for you. And 817 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: that's the replace. You move on to reinoculate your probotics, 818 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: your probiotics. Then you move on to repair. That's where 819 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: you're really repairing the leaky gut. Things like el glutamine 820 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: and alivera can be so helpful for this. And then last, 821 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: but not least, is the rebalanced component, which just means, 822 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: however you ended up here, whether it's stress, toxins, anabiotic use. 823 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 6: Avoid that. 824 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: So reset your life to make sure that you can 825 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: be successful in the future. That's a guideline I give 826 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: to my patients and it works really well whether or 827 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: not you have the gut test. The gut test really 828 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: is just very specific. So I'm like, oh, you need 829 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: this probiotic strain or you know whatever. 830 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know from doing the bestual tests, like 831 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: we have a certain probotic now that I have to 832 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 2: go on, which is so fascinating, Like, depending on which 833 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 2: strain it is that you need, is crazy supplement wise 834 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: that you love. I know we've talked about armor, which 835 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: again is it's a very it's a pricey supplement. But 836 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I just like and I don't even do. 837 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 2: I did one ad for them, but I haven't since, 838 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 2: but i've that's how I found them, and I just 839 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 2: I always say that's the reason why I wasn't sick 840 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 2: for my wedding, because I just was like taken that closterrum. 841 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 2: But like, I don't even really know what it is 842 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 2: or how or why I like it so much. I'm 843 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 2: fatty fifteen. But what else do you recommend? 844 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: Yes? 845 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 6: Too, love armor, It's awesome. 846 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: Armor plays a big, really big role in the like 847 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: immune system function of our gut, so that's probably why 848 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: it was so beneficial for you in terms of not 849 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: getting sick. 850 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 2: What I guess what is the closterum is? Like from 851 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 2: I thought it was like parents your boobies. 852 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 6: Yep. Essentially, Yeah, you're spot on. 853 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is super super nutrient dense. It just contains 854 00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: a lot of very very healthy, essentially composeonents that are 855 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: you know you were spot on. 856 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 6: That's the first. 857 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: Thing that you introduce to the baby, like red after 858 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 1: birth when it comes from Yeah. 859 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, hopefully hopefully that's the first. 860 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 3: Thing back to them postpartum loop. 861 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: Okay, it's because it's so nutrient dense and it boost 862 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 1: it boots up their immune system tremendously, So it really 863 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: is beneficial in that sense for like overall health, and 864 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: that's why people see so much dramatic improvement with things 865 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: like Armora claustrum. You said fatty fifteen, love fatty fifteen. 866 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: It's an essential fatty acid that's a little challenging to 867 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: get through food, but it is considered the best fatty 868 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 1: acid for anti aging and metabolic health. So it makes 869 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: a really really big difference in that front. Outside of 870 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: those two in terms of name brands, I have companies 871 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: I really like, but I just have general supplements I 872 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: recommend to people. Almost all of us are deficient in 873 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: vitamin D. We talked about this a little bit earlier. 874 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 1: Vitamin D three K two is huge. This is a 875 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: fat soluble vitamin, so you do want to have your 876 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: levels checked. But conventional meta and says thirty to one 877 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: hundred is normal. But you actually will not form adequate 878 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: memories if it's less than fifty. And so anyone who 879 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: tells you your levels are normal than less than fifty, 880 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: I personally would recommend a little bit higher and. 881 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 3: A different doctor and a different doctor. 882 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and in all fairness, you know that's how 883 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: we were trained initially from the get go. But essential 884 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: fatty acids in general, like your omega threes are so 885 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: important as an anti inflammatory, boosting immune health. You know, 886 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: salmon is a really good place to get this, but 887 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: extra virgin olive oil that is pure is also a 888 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 1: really great way, as long as it's raw, not used 889 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: in cooking because that defeats the health benefits. And then 890 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: magnesium is the other one that I recommend. So many 891 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 1: people are deficient in magnesium. It's one of the top 892 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: things that people are deficient in when you talk about anxiety, 893 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: immune health, adrenal support. Just making sure you know it's 894 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: how we absorb vitamin D. It is so so crucial. 895 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I also love to recommend people do like magnesium salt soaks, 896 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: like when you're pmsing rate for muscle health. So it 897 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: can be a really big game changer too. 898 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 2: One I've looked two more questions. I have an ultrasound 899 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 2: later today because I keep getting fibroids and sis. 900 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: Why does that happen in women? Is it hormone related. 901 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Or yeah, So fibroids and endometriosis, I kind of categorize 902 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: them together because they form from the same problem, which 903 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: is estrogen dominance. Estrogen dominance is not that your estrogen's 904 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: crazy high, but that in relationship to progesterone, the ratio 905 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: is off, so you have way more estrogen than progesterone. 906 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: And this is also a really big reason why women 907 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: sometimes will struggle with infertility is low progesterone. You have 908 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: to have a certain amount of progesterone to sustain pregnancy. 909 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: But what happens with endometriosis in fibroids is that that 910 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 1: estrogen rich environment allows these estrogenic related conditions to develop. 911 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: So that's where you get things like fibroids, and then 912 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: even indometrios is specifically, it's such a vicious cycle. Endometrial 913 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: tissue also secretes estrogen, so you get a patient who's 914 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 1: estrogen dominant with indimetrial lesions, you do everything you can 915 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: to fix their estrogen dominance, but you're really fighting an 916 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: uphill battle because it's also secreting estrogen, so it can 917 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 1: be a really challenging thing to get on top of 918 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 1: for sure. 919 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a personal question? Oh yeah, about fertility? 920 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 6: One hundred percent? 921 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: Okay, we've chatted in obviously the room you've been trying 922 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: How long have you been trying to have a baby? 923 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 6: About three years? Yeah? 924 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to know what you know 925 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: and then to feel helpless not to be able to 926 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: be like, like, you know all the ins and outs 927 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 2: of medicine and you know how to help so many people. 928 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: Is it hard for you to go why? Like how 929 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,319 Speaker 2: can I not? Like what can I do? Or why 930 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: am I not doing this? And like what can you 931 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: say those people? Because a lot of people listening also 932 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 2: have in fertility issues and so what are you doing 933 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 2: to control also that, because that's got to be really hard, 934 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 2: Like you know everything, so it's like why then why 935 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 2: can you not be pregnant? 936 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: You know? 937 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: And I'm also like why can't she? Because I'm like 938 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 2: she knows everything I know? Yeah, so uh in here 939 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: just kind but I just want to. 940 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 6: Found out now I'm happy to talk about it. 941 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 3: And here was your switch to functional mines. 942 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: This is the whole reason. Yeah, this is why I 943 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: got into it. So the first time I had surgery 944 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: on my reproductive organs, I was in the seventh grade. 945 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: And that's when I was diagnosed with indometriosis. After so 946 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: many doctors telling me I was crazy, they told my 947 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: parents I needed to see a psychiatrist like all these things, 948 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 1: and all that was really happening is that I had 949 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: into matriosis. After that is when I found out I 950 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: had uterin fibroids. So it's really just kind of been 951 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: a downhill slope for my reproductive health since like middle school, 952 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: and it was not that long ago. I guess it 953 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: was the end of twenty twenty one, and I distinctly 954 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: remember talking to my doctor. My husband and I were 955 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: getting ready to do things like IUI so we could 956 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 1: try for you know, pregnancy, and I was like, what 957 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: can I do? There has to be something I can do, 958 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: Like how can I support my body to just stop 959 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: this from just getting worse? And she literally just said nothing. 960 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: She was like, maybe IVF, and not that I'm opposed 961 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: to IVF whatsoever, but you know, I'd love to try 962 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: other things first if that's possible, And that's exactly right. 963 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: That's how I got into functional medicine. I went home 964 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: literally that day and I just went to Google, and 965 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: I was like, what can I do for this? I 966 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: found the Institute of Functional Medicine. I found a ton 967 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: of resources. I learned that high dose spidamin D can 968 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: suppress things like uterine fibroids. I found out about estrogen dominance. 969 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: Realized I'd been suffering from estrogen dominance my entire life 970 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: and the only thing that they had done for me 971 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: was put me on birth control, which, so we're on 972 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: the same page, puts our hormones in a state of menopause. 973 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 6: So I've been in menopause. 974 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: My hormones had because I didn't have a cycle for 975 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: sixteen years because I was on continuous birth control. Wow, 976 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: And all my doctors were like, yeah, it's fine, because 977 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 1: it's controlling your endometriosis. 978 00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 6: That is not fine. 979 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,800 Speaker 1: You have to ovulate, you have to have a cycle. 980 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,800 Speaker 1: That is what's normal, and that is how the body 981 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: is supposed to function. And so through all this I discovered, Wow, 982 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: like I there is so much more opportunity here. I 983 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,320 Speaker 1: think for me personally, I'm backtracking quite a bit. I 984 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: also have a ton of scar tissue. So I've been 985 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: working with some other doctors like acupuncture and whatnot to 986 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: try and really get away from that as much as possible. 987 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's my biggest issue, is like my 988 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: literal ability to implant. The inside of my uterus is 989 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: full of scar tissue unfortunately, so there's just not a 990 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: lot of viable tissue. 991 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 3: But have you got that scraped out because I had 992 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 3: scar tissue that had to be scraped out. 993 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 1: Well the last time I did in twenty twenty one. Yeah, 994 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: but I'm honestly probably do. But yeah, I think the 995 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,720 Speaker 1: biggest thing is if you have things like horrendous PMS 996 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 1: symptoms or PCOS or whatever. First of all, birth control 997 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: is not the answer. But second of all, that is 998 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,880 Speaker 1: just not normal. Like PMS is not normal. That is 999 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: a sign that you have estrogen dominance, super heavy bleeding, 1000 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: crazy cramping, feeling like you just you know, mood swings 1001 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: are all over the place. That is just not how 1002 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. And instead of suppressing it with 1003 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: birth control, the best thing we can do is figure 1004 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 1: out how to get on top of it. 1005 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 6: If you can get on top of it, you don't 1006 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 6: have to go through what I've gone through. I spent 1007 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 6: years being cut open and my hormone suppressed, thinking that 1008 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 6: was the way, and it was actually opposite and has 1009 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 6: significantly reduced my odds for fertility as I sit here 1010 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 6: at thirty. 1011 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 3: So what are your percentages of fertility now? 1012 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: So when they told me in twenty twenty one, they 1013 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: told me maybe like a thirty to forty percent chance. Says, 1014 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,320 Speaker 1: I have pretty extensive endometriosis, Like it's on my bowl 1015 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: and it's like in my bladder and all that kind 1016 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: of stuff. But that's also because this entire time, I 1017 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: could have been doing stuff to get rid of my 1018 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: estrogen dominance, and I just had no idea. Like I 1019 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 1: had no idea that the plastic I was eating out 1020 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: of every single day was giving me plastic toxicity, or 1021 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: that my teflon pans were giving me heavy metal toxicity, 1022 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 1: or that how I was choosing to eat and support 1023 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: my body nutritionally, like not consuming progesterone rich foods for example. Like, 1024 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: I just had no idea all the stuff I could 1025 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: be doing. And if you're able to catch it on 1026 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: the front end, I think you can save yourself a 1027 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of trouble. 1028 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 4: Well, that's why, So would you recommend? Because again, I 1029 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 4: have a thirteen year old daughter middle school, you know, 1030 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 4: started her period a couple you know, that's scary to 1031 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 4: think about, Like you don't go to the doctor, you 1032 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 4: don't have these things checked at this age, right, it's 1033 00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 4: not until you know, a friend of hers could barely 1034 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 4: get out of bed that she finally was like you 1035 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 4: have to take all her labs, like something is not 1036 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,720 Speaker 4: right here to figure out that her iron was extremely low, 1037 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 4: her vitamin D was dangerously low. 1038 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: You know. 1039 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 4: So it's like, what can people do? And I know, 1040 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 4: you know, we all want as moms to get healthy, 1041 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 4: but we also are moms who have to think about 1042 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 4: our girls, Like that's terrifying to think all this started 1043 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 4: at that age. Yeah, and how do we prevent that 1044 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 4: for our daughters? 1045 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1046 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 6: Absolutely. I was placed on birth control when I was twelve, 1047 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 6: and it's definitely. 1048 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 4: Not because I was sexually I have so many friends 1049 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 4: that are like, when they're fifteen, they're getting on birth control, 1050 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, yeah, please don't do it. 1051 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: It's so detrimental to hormones. So what you can do. 1052 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about it. But I think 1053 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to estrogen dominance, specifically talks and exposure 1054 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: is huge in the world that we live in today. 1055 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: You have to go out of your way to really 1056 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: accomplish this. You have to find the glass containers for 1057 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: food storage. You know, Stanley's in the similar are really 1058 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: popular right now. You need to find brands that are 1059 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: not rich in things like heavy metals. You need to 1060 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 1: encourage them and this is something I was terrible about 1061 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: growing up. But you need to encourage them to have 1062 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: a well rounded diet, Like a lot of the stuff 1063 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: that we talked about earlier is so important. I always 1064 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: talk about the phido nutrient spectrum, which just means the 1065 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: more colorful the fruits and the vegetables, the more nutrient 1066 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: dense they are. You just want to have like the 1067 00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 1: rainbow on your plate. And that's a really, really good 1068 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: way to support it. The other things that you can 1069 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: do is check out their stress. How are they coping 1070 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,560 Speaker 1: with stress. I don't know about y'all, but when I 1071 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: went to school, it wasn't a great time. I had 1072 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: a stressful school experience for sure. Lots of bullying, you know, 1073 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 1: lots of things that we deal with as women lots 1074 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: of mean girl scenarios, and I think that played a 1075 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: really really big role in my mental health. And kind 1076 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: of like we talked about earlier, it can affect kids too. 1077 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: Those adrenals affect the thyroid, affect the sex hormones. You 1078 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: see girls, teenage girls in today's world get heavily affected 1079 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: by stuff like that and it really puts their mental 1080 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: state in a negative mindset, which can also perpetuate the 1081 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: estrogen dominance. 1082 00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Nicole, thank you so much for sharing your story. 1083 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 2: It's obviously heartbreaking how you got into functional medicine, but 1084 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 2: thank you for what you do because you're helping a 1085 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 2: lot of people. Where can our listeners find you if 1086 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 2: they have questions, like tell us, tell us all that. 1087 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the best place to find me is 1088 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: through Instagram, So that's primarily my social media. My Instagram 1089 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: is Nicole Stroup, which is st r p NP for 1090 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: Nurse Practitioner, and any updates I have through my workplace 1091 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: will always be through there and definitely the best way 1092 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 1: to get in contact with me and schedule an appointment. 1093 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you Nicole so much. 1094 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1095 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 3: Yi