Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, Welcome to the latest episode Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1: What's going on with me? I had to look over
Speaker 1: at the wall and read the name of our podcast. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's just our name.
Speaker 2: It's a great start. Yeah, I thought you were the
Speaker 2: good starter.
Speaker 1: No, you told everybody I was a good starter. You
Speaker 1: know how bad of a starter you have to be
Speaker 1: if you think I do a better job this one.
Speaker 2: Wow, you found a way to insult me right off
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 1: No, I was insulting me. I was saying that was
Speaker 1: so terrible.
Speaker 2: No, you're saying that I'm even worse than you.
Speaker 1: No, you're saying you're worse than me. Wow, this is
Speaker 1: a good start. This is how you start a podcast.
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome everybody. We are on a pretty good
Speaker 1: We're on a pretty good high right now because the
Speaker 1: weather just turned here in New York so nice, and
Speaker 1: we've been through, oh my goodness, months, it seems like
Speaker 1: we haven't had a break of any kind, and today
Speaker 1: it hit what.
Speaker 3: Sixty sixty two and we pretty much thought it was
Speaker 3: eighty eighty.
Speaker 2: I had a tank top on and I was skipping it.
Speaker 2: I really was skipping.
Speaker 1: This was typical. Though the weather has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 3: I had an extra spring in my step because I
Speaker 3: was listening to Beyonce and I was walking down the street,
Speaker 3: and I just thought, life doesn't get.
Speaker 2: Better than this.
Speaker 3: It is funny, though, how the weather can change everything.
Speaker 3: So we're going to enjoy this stretch this week here
Speaker 3: in New York City because it is long overdue. Although
Speaker 3: March is usually my least favorite weather month of New
Speaker 3: York because I think because I grew up in the South,
Speaker 3: you expect it to be warmer in March and it
Speaker 3: never is. But this week is the exception. So anyway,
Speaker 3: we're just I'm very happy today, very joyful today.
Speaker 1: You are clearly very happy I am. I have an
Speaker 1: entire weather.
Speaker 3: Cast and we're looking at really good weather for the
Speaker 3: half marathon, the New York City Marathon on Sunday, perfect
Speaker 3: running weather, starting out in the forties ending right at sixty.
Speaker 2: I couldn't have handpicked about.
Speaker 1: You are giving a full weather report.
Speaker 3: Right now, this my calling.
Speaker 2: I actually have to admit I am one of those people.
Speaker 1: Anytime you say, I have to admit bracef so has any.
Speaker 3: Is anyone else out there, anyone who's listening addicted to
Speaker 3: watching the weather, channel, or I think I look at
Speaker 3: my weather app ten times a day.
Speaker 2: There's something about it.
Speaker 3: Okay, Emma is A is A is a weather channel junkie.
Speaker 3: So TJ will know that this happened when we were
Speaker 3: traveling this summer overseas. We were in France and we
Speaker 3: were walking down the street and who did we see.
Speaker 2: An I kind of fangirled my.
Speaker 1: Man, Paul goodloaw. Yeah, I got so excited.
Speaker 2: I was like, I've been watching you for years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yes, well, Paul, I hope you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be there because we just out as you now,
Speaker 1: Oh no, we saw.
Speaker 2: He was there with his wife.
Speaker 3: We got to meet the Oh yeah, no, it was
Speaker 3: his wife and we had a fun chat. But it
Speaker 3: was I was kind of embarrassed at how much how
Speaker 3: excited I was to meet him, because that's how much
Speaker 3: I watch.
Speaker 2: The Weather channel.
Speaker 1: That's embarrassed. I was in France with the woman I love,
Speaker 1: who's geeking out over another dude because he gives her
Speaker 1: the weather. Oh well, it was a rough it was
Speaker 1: a rough vacation and was a rough vacation.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, also back in the day when I
Speaker 3: covered hurricanes and all of that, when you saw Jim
Speaker 3: Canty where you were, you knew.
Speaker 2: Run No, I was excited. I was like, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be a ground zero. We're going to watch the
Speaker 2: eye of the hurricane come over.
Speaker 3: So yes, I'm a big no, no, no, no, I'm a
Speaker 3: big Weather Channel junkie. Although I've never I wouldn't. I've
Speaker 3: never done it, and that was my feeble attempt at it.
Speaker 3: But yes, weather makes me happy.
Speaker 1: Cantory. If I show upon seen, I see Canty or
Speaker 1: al Roker, y'all fly me out of I give me
Speaker 1: out now.
Speaker 2: The last the last plane out before story.
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't want to be anywhere near those
Speaker 1: two dudes, my goodness during a storm. So see like that,
Speaker 1: you're worried about how we're going to start, and look
Speaker 1: at how we started.
Speaker 3: It's better for us not to plant it. We used
Speaker 3: to do this all the time where we would just
Speaker 3: see what happens.
Speaker 1: And it still works for us. But we're here on
Speaker 1: a little bit of a high because we had a
Speaker 1: bit of a concert. Yeah before we came a serenade,
Speaker 1: that's the right way to put it. Yes, your daughter
Speaker 1: Ava is in Berlin, as we've talked about here, but
Speaker 1: she's very much a songstress. She is a songwriter, she's
Speaker 1: a singer, and she is so excited to tell mommy
Speaker 1: everything she's got going on.
Speaker 3: Yes, she does, and she loves. She's been performing since
Speaker 3: she was oh my gosh, since she could speak. So
Speaker 3: I have these hilarious videos of her singing Somewhere over
Speaker 3: the Rainbow when she didn't even fully know the words,
Speaker 3: and she would add this vibrato even though she clearly
Speaker 3: could not.
Speaker 2: She be like.
Speaker 3: Somewhere, you know, she would see I don't know, Judy
Speaker 3: Garland or somebody singing it, and she was trying to
Speaker 3: imitate her.
Speaker 2: So we have these videos and they're hilarious.
Speaker 1: Can you post them later?
Speaker 2: Possibly?
Speaker 3: Yes, I think she'd be okay with it. They're so cute.
Speaker 3: And she just loved performing. Before she even knew how
Speaker 3: to sing, she was singing and sometimes well, you know,
Speaker 3: she's my daughter, so it was always it was always wonderful.
Speaker 3: But you know, she had a lot of learning, a
Speaker 3: lot of growing to do. And I asked her, actually,
Speaker 3: if I could talk about this, because she started taking
Speaker 3: her love of singing onto stages and I didn't even
Speaker 3: have anything to do with it. She would go and
Speaker 3: book herself, find someone who would put her on a stage,
Speaker 3: and she ended up creating a rock band and performing
Speaker 3: at the Bitter End, which is a famed kind of
Speaker 3: divy but again famous music divy bar.
Speaker 2: I don't even how to describe it. You've been there.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of hole in the wall.
Speaker 3: But people like you know, Lady Gaga have seen there,
Speaker 3: sung there. Taylor Swift has sung there. So she got
Speaker 3: her start when she was fifteen, and I think tej
Speaker 3: you saw an early concert right now.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I she was raring to go by
Speaker 1: the time I saw her, because she was going through.
Speaker 3: Her she'd been doing it for a couple of years.
Speaker 3: But she would write all of her own songs. She
Speaker 3: did a couple covers, and as a you know, you're
Speaker 3: just you're holding your breath because you know that they're
Speaker 3: putting themselves out there, anyone who is a performer, anyone
Speaker 3: who was a singer or an actor.
Speaker 2: When you get up there, you are you are laying
Speaker 2: it all out.
Speaker 3: You are exposing yourself to anyone who wants to say anything.
Speaker 3: But if you love what you're doing, when you're watching
Speaker 3: somebody perform, who loves what they're doing to me, that's
Speaker 3: the joy, that's the beauty. So we were talking because
Speaker 3: she didn't even know we were going to have this
Speaker 3: next guest who will introduce in just a second on
Speaker 3: the podcast. But she called me, facetimed me from Berlin
Speaker 3: to show me this new rendition, a new cover she
Speaker 3: came up with. She was so excited and she sounded fantastic.
Speaker 3: Maybe she'll even let me post that, because then she
Speaker 3: sent me a recording that she made of her singing
Speaker 3: this cover. So it was it was beautiful and it
Speaker 3: was fun and I said, you're never gonna believe it's
Speaker 3: so funny. You're facetiming me with this because we are.
Speaker 3: I said, did you happen to catch that cute girl
Speaker 3: eight years old who sang the national anthem? She's like yes,
Speaker 3: And so she had seen it on TikTok. I think
Speaker 3: millions of you have seen it and watched it and
Speaker 3: rewatched it, and she was so excited that we were
Speaker 3: talking to Kinsley and her dad, and she wanted me
Speaker 3: to tell her to keep performing and to keep knocking
Speaker 3: it out of the ballpark and to keep putting yourself
Speaker 3: out there because you're only going to grow and get
Speaker 3: better when you do that. So let's introduce our next guest.
Speaker 3: It's Kinsley Murray and her dad Schaeffer Murray. Thank you
Speaker 3: all for joining us and we're so excited to have
Speaker 3: you on the podcast. How are you doing?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: So all right? Kinsley? How famous are you?
Speaker 4: I don't know?
Speaker 2: So humble? So humble?
Speaker 3: Were you surprised at how many people watched you perform
Speaker 3: at that Pacers game on TikTok when they so the
Speaker 3: ras put your performance at the National Anthem up on TikTok?
Speaker 3: And do you know how many views you're up to
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 4: I don't really look at it, so I don't know
Speaker 4: how many views they are.
Speaker 1: Now, Kinsley, are you of age that you have a
Speaker 1: cell phone or access to an iPad and are able
Speaker 1: to scan the internet or you're not old enough for
Speaker 1: that yet? Okay, that's okay, that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1: I think it's right around good. Yes, I think that's
Speaker 1: probably right around the age. I finally let My daughter
Speaker 1: is eleven, so I think it was around eight nine
Speaker 1: ten before she got her hands on devices. Now, a
Speaker 1: lot of people have been have seen you over the
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks. But you have been singing the
Speaker 1: national anthem in front of crowds for a while. Can
Speaker 1: you give me an idea of how long you've been
Speaker 1: doing that and just maybe even how many times and
Speaker 1: how many places you've had the honor of doing that.
Speaker 4: Well, Oh, when I was when I say, yeah, my
Speaker 4: dad's choir, and then I told my dad, oh that
Speaker 4: I wanted to start singing like national anthem. So then
Speaker 4: I started doing that, And when that was fine, I
Speaker 4: started singing at like Major League Baseball and NBA basketball.
Speaker 4: And when I think what really inspires me is when
Speaker 4: France Scott he wrote the national anthem on the War
Speaker 4: of eighteen twelve and he looked at a sales company
Speaker 4: saw that the flag was still there and that and
Speaker 4: it really inspires me. And oh the crowd inspires me also.
Speaker 3: Wow. And so I know the national anthem is your thing.
Speaker 3: You're very patriotic, you love our country, you love singing
Speaker 3: the national anthem.
Speaker 2: What is it like?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's nerve wracking to sing in front of anyone.
Speaker 3: You're singing in front of thousands of people, and now
Speaker 3: millions and million and millions of people. I believe the
Speaker 3: last count was somewhere around twenty three million views on
Speaker 3: TikTok have seen you sing? What is it like to
Speaker 3: sing in front of audiences that big and hear people cheering?
Speaker 2: Do you get nervous?
Speaker 4: No, not at all, especially at the Duke game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: The crowd inspires me because they're like whoah. Even at
Speaker 4: the beginning, when before I even sing the national anthem,
Speaker 4: they're like whoo, and somebody's like I want a Sephie
Speaker 4: and so, and then on rockets, the crowd is just
Speaker 4: like cheering as loud as they can. And it makes
Speaker 4: me really happy and and it just gets me really
Speaker 4: excited and passionate and I'm free. They just they're just
Speaker 4: like whoa.
Speaker 2: And then I, oh, you bring it home?
Speaker 1: Okay Dad? Where does this come from? Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I assume she's got to be some kind of a
Speaker 1: chip off the old block. But the patriotism, the enthusiasm,
Speaker 1: the excitement about performing and singing, even, where does this
Speaker 1: come from?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like she said a little choir at my fourth
Speaker 5: grade teacher. So I had a little choir that's saying
Speaker 5: the anthem for local events, and you know, she started
Speaker 5: singing it with them. I realized when she was just
Speaker 5: turned a little after one years old, and so it
Speaker 5: started going. But the patriotism, I mean patriotism, she just yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean she got the red, white and blue thing,
Speaker 5: you know, fourth of July, and she just she wants
Speaker 5: to look as fabulous as possible. So I try to
Speaker 5: try to help her in that way I can, and
Speaker 5: you know she likes to. She keeps coming up with
Speaker 5: new things, and she wants the jewelry, she wants the
Speaker 5: fancy dresses, she wants the nails painted. She wants to hit.
Speaker 5: So I have to make my own bows and ribbons
Speaker 5: and all that. So just try to help her look
Speaker 5: as good as she can so she can go out
Speaker 5: there and perform.
Speaker 1: Why is this one, though, Dad? I mean, you've seen
Speaker 1: her perform plenty of times, I mean maybe every single
Speaker 1: time she's ever saying the national anthem. You were probably
Speaker 1: right there. Why is it that this performance has resonated
Speaker 1: and gotten so much attention? Do you think?
Speaker 5: I think it's just who who posted it? I imagine real.
Speaker 5: And she's went viral one other time, not quite this
Speaker 5: many views, and I even close this many views. But
Speaker 5: when she was just turned sick, she she went viral
Speaker 5: at a Gonzega game. You know, h it's kind of
Speaker 5: like the old iceberg. You know, you have that whole
Speaker 5: body of work underneath the water and then you know
Speaker 5: they're just seeing the tip of it. But she's like
Speaker 5: you said, been for a while, and I just yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, cop fired this one. And you know what's
Speaker 5: crazy to me is that I from what I heard,
Speaker 5: I think like twenty eight million views is the last time,
Speaker 5: my last thing I heard, and that makes for a
Speaker 5: third of the pacers total TikTok talk views, which is insanity.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that is insane.
Speaker 3: That's got to feel good as a dad to see
Speaker 3: the impact she's having. What do you hear from the fans?
Speaker 3: I mean she's talking about the roar of the crowds.
Speaker 3: I mean you're seeing all the attention she's getting. Are
Speaker 3: you concerned about it at all? Are you excited for her?
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2: As her father, all he.
Speaker 5: Can continue to do is, you know, keep trying to
Speaker 5: get harder. And we've worked on keys, and she works
Speaker 5: with her singing coach on keys, and you know she's eight,
Speaker 5: so sometimes she may go off, but we've talked about
Speaker 5: it and we continue to work and get better and
Speaker 5: that's all we can really do is work and get better.
Speaker 5: But when you I mean I got pictures of her,
Speaker 5: you know, performing in the kitchen, and I mean it's
Speaker 5: every day she just wants even at the same song.
Speaker 5: You know, she knows for four months that we're seeing
Speaker 5: the Pacers game, and she works for Tailoff to actually
Speaker 5: do it. When can we practice? When we can we
Speaker 5: go on it and she you know, I'm not done practicing.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's constant. So she has the drive and
Speaker 5: so I just want to, you know, support her as
Speaker 5: much as I can.
Speaker 1: And Dack and I asked it, I asked Kinsley, But
Speaker 1: you might have a better account. How many times has
Speaker 1: she performed the national anthem in front of a I
Speaker 1: guess an official audience and an official event? And how
Speaker 1: how do they get in touch? Do you do? You
Speaker 1: get constant calls for her?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm like her agent in a way, and
Speaker 5: I send, I send out what I can. You know
Speaker 5: what I can because you know, just because once she
Speaker 5: started doing professional events, we're probably doing about fifteenth to
Speaker 5: twenty years, so she's over one hundred. She was doing
Speaker 5: more when we're doing a bunch of minor league stuff
Speaker 5: around town. But we don't have a lot of professional
Speaker 5: events in eastern Washington, so we have to go out. Wow,
Speaker 5: But it's just you know, we're just emailing out and
Speaker 5: if they like her, they take her and Schaeffer.
Speaker 3: This was of note to me. You're funding this whole thing.
Speaker 3: These aren't paid gigs. You're doing this to support your
Speaker 3: daughter and her passion. This has got to be an
Speaker 3: expensive endeavor.
Speaker 5: We go to. You know, I have lots of people
Speaker 5: that we know and keep in touch with high school
Speaker 5: and and just other things and friends and whatnot and family,
Speaker 5: so so we try to keep it at least this
Speaker 5: last time, we keep it to people that we know
Speaker 5: in family, so we have a place to stay, so
Speaker 5: you know, for purchase food and food and flight, you know,
Speaker 5: try to get a good flight, cheap price out of it.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm funding the whole thing, and so we
Speaker 5: save up and try to try to have some extra
Speaker 5: for summer vacation fund.
Speaker 1: Kinsley, do you fully grasp the idea of what it
Speaker 1: means to be going viral? And secondly, given that, do
Speaker 1: you have friends or anybody at school or are they
Speaker 1: are they kind of loving it and giving you a
Speaker 1: giving you a hard time about being so famous right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like, you're really famous. I saw it on
Speaker 4: DV or like you with viral.
Speaker 2: You know what's so cute?
Speaker 3: I know our listeners you at home can't see Kinsley's face,
Speaker 3: but she has not want stop smiling. You can tell
Speaker 3: the joy she has in doing this and performing. Kinsley,
Speaker 3: what do you want to do next? Do you have
Speaker 3: a performance already set up? Or is there something that
Speaker 3: you really want to do that you haven't done yet?
Speaker 3: Tell us what's next?
Speaker 4: Do the Dodgers? Are they Yankees? Because I just think
Speaker 4: it would be really cool because the Dodgers are like
Speaker 4: one of my favorite baseball teams, well my favorite baseball
Speaker 4: team ever, and the Yankees are just really big, So
Speaker 4: I think so I think if get into those two teams,
Speaker 4: I'll get bigger.
Speaker 5: I think the Yankees is because she's really wants to
Speaker 5: go to New York.
Speaker 3: I mean, so you wouldn't be nervous singing at Yankee
Speaker 3: Stadium the national anthem.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't be.
Speaker 4: Nervous, not at all. I just the gradually gives me
Speaker 4: a lot of confidence, inspires me, and some people say
Speaker 4: inspire them and so it really so. I think it's
Speaker 4: really I think I really like it, and I would
Speaker 4: not be scared at all. I would I would be
Speaker 4: probably living the life.
Speaker 1: You're living the life now, Kidsley, What what's the biggest
Speaker 1: crowd so far that you have had the plat Dad
Speaker 1: you're thinking there as well, Like, what would have been
Speaker 1: the biggest crowd performed in front of?
Speaker 4: I think it's the Pacers game, Pacers and Sacramento.
Speaker 5: King's about twenty. Tell them what the wildest one was?
Speaker 4: The wildest one I've ever done was Duke. They're like
Speaker 4: so crazy. Even before the game, they were like, I'm
Speaker 4: your biggest There so many pictures with me and oh
Speaker 4: and after the game and it was just so cool
Speaker 4: how they were like, oh crazy about me.
Speaker 5: I told her before she's Duke, I says, tell everybody.
Speaker 1: She just know nothing about Duke, but she will the craziest. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Cameron crazy.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, Kinsley.
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite singer, an idol, someone who
Speaker 3: you aspire to be? Like?
Speaker 4: My inspirations are Kelly Clarkson, Fergie Christina AA, Jennifer Hudson,
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift, and Whitney Houston.
Speaker 2: There's some pretty good singers there.
Speaker 1: Those are all my inspirations as well. To be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, how do you so the performance that
Speaker 1: so many people did see at the Pacers game? Take me,
Speaker 1: take us all Kinsley into what goes into that performance?
Speaker 1: First of all, is that a typical performance for you
Speaker 1: for those who hadn't seen you before? But also what
Speaker 1: goes into that? How you picked what you were wearing,
Speaker 1: how you go about performing. Maybe you mixed it up
Speaker 1: a bit on this, and maybe you keep evolving. I
Speaker 1: don't know, because most of us just saw the one.
Speaker 1: So tell us, Oh.
Speaker 4: Well, I just won under my country and I think
Speaker 4: Green wat and Blue who is the best. So I
Speaker 4: just like to look and so I get all these
Speaker 4: glamorous stuff and sparkly dresses, and I just kind of
Speaker 4: look as pretty and just let's seeing glamy as I can.
Speaker 4: This was probably one of my favorite dresses. I like
Speaker 4: how they had the sleeve bog and then the sparkles
Speaker 4: at the bottom. I really like that dress.
Speaker 2: And and Shaeffer, am I correct that. Dad.
Speaker 3: You're responsible for the dresses, even her hairstyles, everything you
Speaker 3: do at all.
Speaker 5: I'd like to say I made the dress, but I'm
Speaker 5: not that good. But we found some lady in Ireland
Speaker 5: who's you know, very reasonable price considering, and she actually
Speaker 5: drew a picture design send it over. I'm like, that's it.
Speaker 5: And so she did four different ones for the for
Speaker 5: the Midwest trip that we did and they're all just incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just the detail and all that. And she told me
Speaker 5: what to do for the most part, because I'm not
Speaker 5: savvy on on girl dresses, but she had me get
Speaker 5: the forget what they call that, the under thing, the
Speaker 5: poof underneath.
Speaker 1: Of course, and I know it's exactly No, it's the
Speaker 1: under thing, it's the underpoof. That's that's what we call it.
Speaker 1: Exactly what you were talking about.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 1: But yeah, now you talk both of you all talked
Speaker 1: when I when I asked about what goes into the performance,
Speaker 1: you talked about the attire. But I have to ask Kinsley,
Speaker 1: you put you put some stink on your performance there.
Speaker 1: I mean you you made it your own. You you weren't.
Speaker 1: You didn't just get up there and sing. You made
Speaker 1: that a performance and you really got into Now what
Speaker 1: goes into that? I'm asking where does that come from?
Speaker 1: Do you look at any other inspirations. Is that all yours?
Speaker 1: Tell me what that was?
Speaker 4: Well, I like you to, Oh, look at my inspirations,
Speaker 4: like Kelly Clarkson or went in Houston, or like Fergy,
Speaker 4: or like any other ones. And I just had to
Speaker 4: put put them together to make one full anthem, and
Speaker 4: I just and then I just go out there and
Speaker 4: do my best.
Speaker 2: Do you mix it up? Do you always sing it
Speaker 2: the same way? Kinsley? Or do you do you do?
Speaker 2: Every performance is different?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 4: Well, usually I like have one performance and then like
Speaker 4: when I was little, I had one performance and then
Speaker 4: I started switching it up, and I keep and then
Speaker 4: I keep switching it up and until I like it.
Speaker 4: And then sometimes we switch it up after the other anthems,
Speaker 4: so we switch it up a lot.
Speaker 3: I'll admit I actually told our producers two times in
Speaker 3: my life, much much younger, I sang the national anthem,
Speaker 3: not in front of a crowd anywhere near as big
Speaker 3: as yours, but I was so nervous and it was overwhelming,
Speaker 3: like I lost my breath support. You know, I practiced,
Speaker 3: I had a pitch pipe.
Speaker 2: And still it's the scariest.
Speaker 3: Song and it's one of the hardest songs to sing.
Speaker 3: You mentioned how you get excited when you hit the free,
Speaker 3: which is the highest note. You don't ever get nervous
Speaker 3: about hitting that note free. Has your voice ever cracked?
Speaker 3: If you ever had anything go wrong where the next
Speaker 3: time you're thinking, please don't let that happen again. You've
Speaker 3: done it so many times it's I'm amazed.
Speaker 1: Well, I have.
Speaker 4: This off key in my free a couple times. You
Speaker 4: just gotta get that note really.
Speaker 2: High, And you know what I noticed? You just go
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 3: You don't hold back, and even if you are off,
Speaker 3: you're still sing it with every ounce of your being.
Speaker 2: And that's what makes it so special.
Speaker 3: You can tell you have such a passion for what
Speaker 3: you do, and it's a beautiful thing to witness. I
Speaker 3: am curious, though, Schaeffer, because yes, you want to support
Speaker 3: your daughter and her passion. I understand that as a
Speaker 3: mom as I talked about my own daughter.
Speaker 2: Do you ever get worried?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: I can't imagine thinking we're singing at these games, which
Speaker 3: is cool enough, But now with the advent of social
Speaker 3: media and having so many people not only watch her
Speaker 3: but comment on her good and bad. Do you are
Speaker 3: you afraid it's getting or it's gotten out of control
Speaker 3: in any way.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 5: I just try to support her passion, but like nerves,
Speaker 5: I'm a wreck. Before she got she's loving live, She's
Speaker 5: I got video, She's for the game. She's out dancing.
Speaker 5: Actually before that game, her biggest thing was Terse Halliburton
Speaker 5: and talking. She regretting that she didn't get a selfie
Speaker 5: with them. But yeah, I'm the one that with the nerves,
Speaker 5: and yeah, I care about it. You know. I try
Speaker 5: not to expose her to too much of that stuff,
Speaker 5: but I tell her, you know, I mean, you're out
Speaker 5: in the public spotlight. If you get off note, they're
Speaker 5: going to they're going to get you. So she knows that,
Speaker 5: and she, you know, she just continues, like I said,
Speaker 5: to try and be your best. And we work with
Speaker 5: her myself as long, with a couple of other coaches
Speaker 5: that she she talks to, just to make her as
Speaker 5: best as possible and do things, you know, in warm
Speaker 5: ups and and things to build that course that maybe
Speaker 5: that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Shaff you told her you put yourself out there in
Speaker 1: the spotlight, and you know the good and the bad
Speaker 1: will come. What what have you told her? How far
Speaker 1: have you gone in telling her about what's happened with
Speaker 1: this latest round of going viral.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I was told there's just you know, we talked.
Speaker 5: We talked to my auntie as well, and she was
Speaker 5: the first one to say, Auntie, Timmy, she's the first
Speaker 5: one to say it. You know, you ain't got haters
Speaker 5: until you made it. Maybe you made it so amen.
Speaker 2: I love I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3: And look, these are lessons that people learn the hard
Speaker 3: way and all the time now these days. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is something that kids no matter if they're putting
Speaker 3: themselves out there or not. You know, this is one
Speaker 3: of the evils of social media is that people get
Speaker 3: to say whatever they want, they get to be anonymous.
Speaker 3: And and so the fact that she's taking this in
Speaker 3: stride and she's doing something that she loves, that she's
Speaker 3: passionate about that, you know, I think it's remarkable that
Speaker 3: that she's got that big old smile on her face
Speaker 3: and she's ready for more. I think these are important
Speaker 3: life lessons that unfortunately we're all having to teach young
Speaker 3: kids at an earlier age than we should about social
Speaker 3: media in general. But to see someone following their dream,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't. I don't see how anyone could
Speaker 3: say anything negative about a beautiful child who is following
Speaker 3: her dreams, following her heart and and listening to all
Speaker 3: of the noise and still undeterred, going for it each
Speaker 3: every time.
Speaker 2: Do you have the next gig set up? By the way, Schaeffer, Uh,
Speaker 2: working on a couple.
Speaker 5: We're working on some major league events. But yeah, no
Speaker 5: one's actually reaching out unfortunately, So I'm hoping, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, some of these major league once stuff dies down,
Speaker 5: some people will reach out. I will say that, you know,
Speaker 5: with all the the stuff and people saying things like
Speaker 5: the people at the events, and if you listen to
Speaker 5: especially the Duke game, if you absolutely like I've heard
Speaker 5: anything like it. Yes, it's it's evil the noise that
Speaker 5: I hear, there foreign anthem. I've seen Super Bowl, I've
Speaker 5: been to Super Bowls, I've been to World Series. I've
Speaker 5: never heard anything close to the type of reaction she gets.
Speaker 5: And she likes to. She likes to do her parade
Speaker 5: at halftime around the concourse. And she could because she
Speaker 5: gets stopped by hundreds for selfies and and every goes
Speaker 5: out of their way to tell her how amazing she did,
Speaker 5: so you know, I get that, but but there's, yeah,
Speaker 5: the amount of good stuff when she's at the game,
Speaker 5: it's crazy, it's crazy, and everybody talks about how, especially
Speaker 5: the Duke game, you inspired the team. I mean, can
Speaker 5: any of that. I mean they went up forty to
Speaker 5: twelve or whatever it was in the first half, and
Speaker 5: I mean that credit. They just got into it and
Speaker 5: they all attributed it to her, which obviously it's not
Speaker 5: all her, but I mean, you get a crowd going
Speaker 5: and that no.
Speaker 1: Take credit, Fine, it's fine, take credit. It's okay, Jeffy,
Speaker 1: all take credit. I had. But I want to go
Speaker 1: back to something you just said, like I was assuming
Speaker 1: the phone was ringing off the hook. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, you said the calls aren't coming, and then you
Speaker 1: said that maybe they're waiting for some of this stuff
Speaker 1: to die down. Do you think this is having some
Speaker 1: impact on whether or not people would want to welcome
Speaker 1: her into their arena.
Speaker 5: I think it definitely is. And it's it's sad because,
Speaker 5: I mean, you've never heard a response like this. For
Speaker 5: maybe you have, but not very many times have you
Speaker 5: heard this kind of twenty eight million views on it
Speaker 5: an anthem couldn't bad. I mean, you have to have
Speaker 5: the the bad to go with the good, and the
Speaker 5: good to go with the bad that to make it
Speaker 5: go like it is. I mean, I mean her thing
Speaker 5: was she wanted to be different, She wanted to make
Speaker 5: it different. She wanted to make it her own so
Speaker 5: that she can get noticed, you know, and now that
Speaker 5: she's noticed, so we can adapt her little things here
Speaker 5: and there. But yeah, I mean, that's all she wants
Speaker 5: to do is sing at events. So yeah, like it
Speaker 5: does surprise me, but I'm hoping someone will reach out
Speaker 5: and she obviously, you know, the big fear of you know,
Speaker 5: of an eight year old is that they're going to
Speaker 5: buckle and stop in the middle of the song. But
Speaker 5: I mean clearly she's never done that, so at least
Speaker 5: the worries. But yeah, just trying to go out there
Speaker 5: and get some events and make some people smile. She does.
Speaker 3: I've been smiling the whole time, just watching watching Kinsley smile. Kinsley,
Speaker 3: what do you want to be when you grow up?
Speaker 4: When I grow up, I want to be a singer
Speaker 4: or an actress. But if that doesn't work out, I'll
Speaker 4: just be a teacher because I really want to teach
Speaker 4: kids and I want to and I've been planning it
Speaker 4: out in my mind, like you can decorate your own classroom,
Speaker 4: Like how hard could it be? A?
Speaker 1: Yeah, dad, how hard could it be? That is fantastic?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I want I want to ask about you all have
Speaker 1: done these so many times and we're talking about this
Speaker 1: last performance, but there have been so many other performances.
Speaker 1: Do you all do a kind of a debrief after
Speaker 1: a performance and say, this is what went well and
Speaker 1: this is what didn't go well? Is there a critique?
Speaker 1: Is there? Do you all do those?
Speaker 4: Yeah? We talk about it when I do bad and
Speaker 4: want to do good and like on the big notes,
Speaker 4: like the notes that get everybody cheering. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 4: talked about it a lot.
Speaker 1: So what were the notes? I guess what were the
Speaker 1: what was the debrief?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: After the Pacers performance, did you know you nailed it?
Speaker 1: Did you think you had something special? Did you all think?
Speaker 1: What was you all's critique of that performance?
Speaker 5: We talked about there's just some off keys there, and
Speaker 5: you know with the runs that she does, you know
Speaker 5: that's where a lot of it is. But I mean
Speaker 5: she feeds off the crowd, so so in the moment,
Speaker 5: I don't think she notices. But we listened to it
Speaker 5: after and go over it here and there. Okay, this
Speaker 5: was off, this was off. You know. I think on
Speaker 5: that that particular one, she went off key with a
Speaker 5: couple of spots. Oh say it as a star spangle.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 5: She likes that.
Speaker 2: Oh, he likes to do that.
Speaker 5: The new game, we switched it a little bit just
Speaker 5: so she could be on key on a little more spots.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I think it is the hardest song
Speaker 3: to sing, and you're singing at a cappella so you
Speaker 3: don't have a musical accompaniment. I mean, it's all you
Speaker 3: and everyone's looking at you, and those are not easy
Speaker 3: notes to hit at all in any way, And even
Speaker 3: the greats get off key every now and then. But
Speaker 3: what I'm impressed by and to me, this is the
Speaker 3: sign of someone who can make it in this industry.
Speaker 3: In a performance industry, you have to be able to
Speaker 3: take the critiques and you have to be able to say,
Speaker 3: I'm going to take what you said and I'm going
Speaker 3: to do better, and I'm gonna get better and I'm
Speaker 3: going to work harder. And not many people can do that.
Speaker 3: So the fact that Kinsley can do that is remarkable
Speaker 3: at that age because most people's egos much older than
Speaker 3: eight can't handle that. So the fact that she can,
Speaker 3: I think is an awesome, awesome start to a very
Speaker 3: very potentially amazing career. I'm curious, Kinsley. When I first
Speaker 3: started out performing in any way, the hardest thing to
Speaker 3: do was to listen or to watch myself.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to. I I are you do you
Speaker 2: watch yourself back? And is it hard for you at all?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, not really. Oh. I like how that crowd
Speaker 4: comes up to me. There is one person that was like,
Speaker 4: I'm a veteran and it made me cheer up a little. Well,
Speaker 4: it made me have tears and then like everyone was
Speaker 4: like you made them cry and there and there's another
Speaker 4: lady that that was like, uh, my birthday is on
Speaker 4: the point of July and it and it feels really
Speaker 4: special when you're just all red, white and blue.
Speaker 3: That is the absolute joy of being a performer, when
Speaker 3: you get that kind of feedback from people who you
Speaker 3: made happy for that moment. So that's an awesome thing
Speaker 3: to be able to do and to be able to share,
Speaker 3: and you know, we wish you.
Speaker 2: The best of success.
Speaker 3: We were so happy to be able to talk to you,
Speaker 3: to see that beautiful smile, to see your dad who's
Speaker 3: right there with you. And I love the attire. Even
Speaker 3: today we've got red white and blue? Do you always
Speaker 3: wear red white and blue?
Speaker 4: Like? Usually? Am? I? God? Singing weekends are like oh,
Speaker 4: when it's like the singing time. So usually when it's
Speaker 4: like singing, when it's like the singing week or something.
Speaker 3: Well, that makes a lot of sense. So before we
Speaker 3: let you go, I have a question, one last question
Speaker 3: for you. Do you have a favorite line in the
Speaker 3: star Spangled Banner.
Speaker 4: And the rockets red glare?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. A lot of power behind that.
Speaker 2: Can you sing it? Or no? If you don't want to,
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 4: My singing couchet probably killed me. Can you sing? Can
Speaker 4: you sing? A little?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Say?
Speaker 2: Can you see how about that? I gave it a go.
Speaker 2: My singing coach is gonna be really mad too.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Showed your boyfriend when you sing him that lullaby? Later,
Speaker 1: she can do banter for you your way great. She's
Speaker 1: a performer. She's a performer. I love it you're you're
Speaker 1: a performer, and I applaud you and look, I'm the
Speaker 1: I have a little one that's eleven years old. And look,
Speaker 1: I read about you actually before I saw the video
Speaker 1: and read about you and saw the video before I
Speaker 1: actually got to meet you. But after seeing the video,
Speaker 1: after reading some of the stuff that's out there, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to give you a hug. Look, I'm a parent,
Speaker 1: Robot here is a parent, and I just don't understand
Speaker 1: sometimes some of the foolishness that's out there, and how
Speaker 1: anybody could could anyway, shape or form, pick up their
Speaker 1: phone and have the energy to compose a message on
Speaker 1: social media to criticize an eight year old child who's
Speaker 1: doing what she loves is beyond my comprehension. So you
Speaker 1: have full support in this studio here in New York.
Speaker 1: You ever come up here, we expect to hear from
Speaker 1: you because we want to see you. So you Kinsley,
Speaker 1: do your thing. Don't you ever stop and please don't
Speaker 1: ever stop smiling.
Speaker 5: Yeah, step on that, because the Tamer Show, Tammer Hall
Speaker 5: Show did say they want her on in the near future, so.
Speaker 2: All right, we are looking forward to that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I to echo what TJ said, never let
Speaker 3: your critics silence you. And I have a feeling they
Speaker 3: won't because I can see that energy and you've got
Speaker 3: a great guy right by your side, your dad.
Speaker 2: So thank you both for sharing your story, for bringing some.
Speaker 3: Joy into the iHeart Studio, and we look forward to
Speaker 3: your next big event.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'll tell you that I said
Speaker 4: we will.
Speaker 2: I will tell her that you said hi.
Speaker 3: Thank you both, Thank you, and thank you for listening.
Speaker 2: Here Amy and TJ.
Speaker 3: We are signing off, but you of course can check
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Speaker 3: Amy and TJ podcast, and of course we're on TikTok
Speaker 3: as well, so we will see you all later. Thanks
Speaker 3: for listening.