1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: At least. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: And welcome back. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Matt starting an hour number two here. Sound for us 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: to do a mock draft. All right, we're gonna use 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: the Pro Football Focus, uh mock drafter today and the 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: first twenty picture in. You only have one trade offer, 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: so I think we might be sticking and picking. Yeah, 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: it's the Lions at twenty eight, but it's not terrible play. 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Okay. 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: So you got Luther Burden, Josh Simmons, Mecca Agbuca, Kelvin Banks, 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: tackle from Texas, James Pearce edge rusher from Tennessee, o'mari 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: and Hampton running back from North Carolina, Colston Loveland, a 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: tight end from Michigan, Omar Norman Lott. They got him, Wow, 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: a lot higher than man. I don't see that. Gray's 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: Abel tackle from North Dakota. Our offensive lineman from North 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: Kota State, Trey Amos, who was in for a visit. 21 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: Josh Connery the offensive tackle from Oregon, Shamar Stewart who's 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: in for a visit. Jayden Higgins, who's in for a visit? Boy, 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: did the Derek Harmon is still there? 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: And I said, all three of the tackle's gone. Defense 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: tackle Derek Carmon is still there. Considering two are gone, 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: might just have to stick. 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Stick In the quarterbacks, well, Shador Sanders is there as well. 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: Okay, but Nolan and Grant must be gone. I'm just 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: looking here. I believe that they both are. Yes, Okay, 30 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: which could happen? Could happen that way? The good prospects, 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: I would go Harmon. 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: I think I would too, just based on the discussion 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: we just had. 34 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I like him more and more. I think he's a really, 35 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: really good player. I took me a while to say 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: would I take him at twenty one? And now I'm 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: gladly would take him in twenty one. Yeah. 38 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: It's funny that on the Pro Football Focus boards he's 39 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 3: getting pushed down a little bit from where he was 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: at before. 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: Really, I feel more comfortable with him and more I 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: more I learned, the more I watch more everything about him. 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: I am very comfortable with him. Yeah, very disruptive. Long, 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: I mean to stick, and we're gonna stick and pick. Yeah, 45 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: I like it. 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 3: The next question then becomes, do we try to trade 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: up into the second round for what? Well, I just 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: mentioned there's quarterbacks available. 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean I would strongly consider a shuck or a 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: million or whatever. Or we're trading up for a running back? 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: Makes sense? Maybe maybe the great guy is there? All right, 52 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna draft Harmon. Whoops, I screwed up only I 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: only hit one round on that one, So we're gonna 54 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: let it run again here. 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 3: I shouldn't take long here to get I didn't hit 56 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: seven on that one. 57 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: Like, why is it stopping? I've done that. 58 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get the same settings in there. Okay, we're good. 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: I assume Harmon will be our man. Well, I'm sure 60 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: he will be based on their rankings as low as 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: he is. Okay, So Harmon, where you at Harmon? 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: Where you at Harmon? There is? 63 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: Harmon is the pick? Okay, whoop, I'm gonna pause here. 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: We're at fifty eight. Okay, and I'm just going to 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: look here, scatter Bow went. Caleb Johnson went, this isn't 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: lining up well for us. Uh looks like maybe maybe? Yeah, 67 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: it looks like both Ohio State running backs are there. 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: You have a preference. I think I tack Henderson. I'm 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: a Henderson fan. Yeah. Yeah, his sounds like the league 70 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: is a Henderson fan too. 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: His past protection, like he's the best pass protector in 72 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: his draft. 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he is two hundred and five ten pound 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: running back. And it just gets you on the few 75 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: now which will. 76 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: Let you play now? Yeah, even if you Yeah, I mean, 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: I just think he is. So do we want to 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: call the Texans and try to move up at fifty eight? 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: We haven't done that often. I'm up for it. I'm 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: up thrilled about giving up my first or second next year. 81 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up a first or second this year, 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: but I'll give up it's gonna take at least a third. 83 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna give up eighty three. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: put Okay, next year's two, well, they'll definitely do it 85 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. I don't want to get rid of 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: next year's two. Next year's two alone. I consider next 87 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: year's two and like a five. 88 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: This year, Let's see if they'll take one eighty five, 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: there's a seventy one percent chance of being accepted. 90 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: Could we do next year's two and a six? 91 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Let me see if they let me see if they 92 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: would take our three and next year's three they would 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: take that. 94 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I figured that would get it done. 95 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: And we might even be able to get a little 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: sweetener back at in the back end of it. 97 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I think I'd rather dump a late pick this year 98 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: and next year's two. Next year's two makes for a better 99 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: radio for this. Yeah, that's true, a third round pick, 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: but I mean Vegas is telling us Henderson has a 101 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: really good chance to go in the first round. True, 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, okay, moving up for him. So here's 103 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: what I've come up with. 104 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 3: Fifty eight and one sixty six, okay for next year's two, 105 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: and pick one fifty six, which is a fifth round 106 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: pick this year. 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Let's do it something different we never do. 108 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: Le's see if they accept it first and they did, okay, Okay, 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: So the players available to us. 110 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Here, we'll be trade up for Henderson. 111 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 3: Well, there's us some other guys though, you get sweating her, okay, 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: Dylan Samson, Elijah or Rojo, the tight end out of Miami, 113 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: Traveon Henderson, Ola Dejo, the edge rusher from UCLA Mkuba, 114 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 3: that's safety from Texas. Quinn Shaw Junks is also there. 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: But Jeff so is Jaln Milroe. 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: I prefer Milroe, but I mean our intentions were to 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: go get Henderson. I'm absolutely fine with that, Okay. 118 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he might last to pick eighty three as possible. Yeah, 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: but we're going to have the running back in hand. 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: I think while this is a deep running back draft, 121 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: I think there's four guys. 122 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: That stand out. 123 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: It's difference making, and Johnson's on the periphery of that. 124 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: He would fit this scheme. Wy. Yeah, I mean, but 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: he's not for everybody, right, and he's already gone in 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: this particular draft, which would make me all the more 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: want to trade up. And I mean you get a 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: lot more explosive with Metcalf and Henderson offense. 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Travon Henderson it is. And we kept 130 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: our pick at eighty three. We don't second round pick 131 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 3: next year. Okay. We are up now at pick eighty three, 132 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: and guess what, Jaln Milroe is still available. 133 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: I think you do it. Yeah. He pulled the trigger 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: on that right away, and it's gonna be harder to 135 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: without a second, it's gonna be harder to move up 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: in round one next year's If that's a path you 137 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: have to take whatever. 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: Maybe I've got a young quarterback now right right, Okay, 139 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: and you know what if if I really fall in 140 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: love with somebody next year, first, I'll trade a first 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: to future first to move up to do. 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: What I gotta do. Yep, absolutely all right. 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: We're up at one twenty three top players available save 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: on Jones. He has rusher out of LSU. 145 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: R J. 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: Mickens, a safety out of Clemson, Jaden Blue running back 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 3: out of Texas, Isaac Tesla, wide receiver from Arkansas, Trevor 148 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: ATM running back out of Georgia, Gunner Helm, tight end 149 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: from Texas. I really think we need to get a nose. 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: I would say I want a d lineman. Yeah, I'm 151 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: looking big people here. I'm gonna just go look at 152 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the big people. 153 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: Top guys available, Ty Robinson from Nebraska, Cameron Jackson from Florida. 154 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I consider Jackson there. 155 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tim Smith from Alabama. 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I prefer Jackson. 157 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: Jared Harrison Hunt from SMU. He's not a nose. Talk 158 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: to Hemingway, not really a nose. So I think it 159 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: comes down to Cameron Jackson or Tim Smith. 160 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: I prefer Jackson, but they're pretty similar. Big space eater, Yeah, 161 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: we get size and physicality, the miliary defense, minimal snaps. 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: You're taking those over a receiver, no lineman, or let. 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Me see what a receiver you're looking at, Tesla Isaiah 164 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 3: bond Ty Felton, Pat Bryant can not a mumpfield. I 165 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: don't necessarily need a receiver. 166 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: Right right because of those names are leaping off the pens. 167 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: Is a really good receiver too, like yeah, I mean 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna help you there. And your second round pick 169 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: was a receiver. Looking at the offensive lineman Jalen Rivers 170 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: is there, Brandon, but they did sign Max Sharping. Since 171 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: we got the last and another one, they'll probably make 172 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: the team. Yeah, not a throwaway guy. 173 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: He's guys started about I think thirty five forty games 174 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: in league. Interior offensive line of Seth MacLachlan, the center 175 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: from Ohio State, Willie Lampkin. 176 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Nobody really standing out. Let's go with the nose. 177 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Cameron Jackson it is. 178 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: We don't take him very often, but we got big 179 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: and beefy yeah real huge, Yeah, yeah, all. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: Right, we're back to out. We got one sixty six, 181 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: which is the pick that we got. Addition, uh, top 182 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: players available r J Mickens the safety out of Clemson. 183 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: Ty Robinson still there for Nebraska. Jordan Hancock the safety 184 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 3: out of Ohio State, Quin Yours quarterback out of Texas. 185 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 3: Craig Woodson the safety out of cow Canada. Mumpfield, wide 186 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: receiver from Pitt Woodson. 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: I think Woodson's pretty slot capable. 188 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: He's played a decent amount of slot in his career. 189 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: I know DJ's really high on him. 190 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's six foot two hundred and ten pounds. 191 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Could he be your your big slot maybe. But I 192 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: also think Thornhill could too. I think Thornhill can do 193 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: that as well. 194 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: But it's a one year contract for Thornhill and it's 195 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: tough to get another safety. 196 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: Under the rosters. That's a broad part is if you 197 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: draft a d back, I'd really like it to be 198 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: something to fight with Trice. 199 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I hear you. Jackson haw is still there. 200 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna mention the names that stand out to me. 201 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: Dante Thornton, the wide receiver out of Tennessee. 202 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: I think he's intriguing. Just have him learned with just 203 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: kind of watch what Metcalf and Pickings do to some 204 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: degree and basically red shirt. 205 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: Them Connor Colby the guard out of Iowa, Iowa offensive 206 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: lineman or often you know what you're getting there. Tyler 207 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: Cooper the guard out of Minnesota. 208 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure tackles are gone. Zah Frasier is still there. 209 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: Jason Marshall, the cornerback out of Florida, Jaylen Travis, the. 210 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: Tackle out of Iowa State there. 211 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we haven't talked much about him, but he's 212 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: certainly six seven, three and forty pounds. 213 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he's a guard, but intriguing. Yeah, three hundred 214 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and forty pounds, yeah, six foot seven guard or tackle. 215 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Denzel Burke still there. Emery Jones still there. Emiy Jones 216 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: would be my favorite name probably of the group. 217 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: Okay, you wanna take Emery Jones. Get another pick coming 218 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: at one eighty five? Yeah, yeah, all right, Emery Jones 219 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: it is. 220 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: Now. 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 3: We can go a lot of different ways here. Ty 222 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: Robinson just finally went and one eighty four. 223 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: He's been teasing us. 224 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: Look at the wide receivers you're looking at. Cannata Mumfield 225 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: from pitt Samuel Brown from Miami, Dante Thornton from Tennessee, 226 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: Andrew Armstrong from Arkansas, KeAndre Lambert Smith from Auburn. Cayden 227 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: Praither from Maryland's not a bad player. 228 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: I like the Auburn kid. I like the Tennessee kid. 229 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Chime or Dyke is there. I'm a I'm a fan 230 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: of his as well. Really explosive. So one of those 231 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: receivers is appealing. 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 3: So there's some options there. Cornerback Zoph Fraser is still there, 233 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 3: as is Jason Marshall, the cornerback out of Florida, Jalen Smith, 234 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: the corner out of South Carolina or USO. 235 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: I did a little bit of deep corner work in 236 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours. Smith grew on me a 237 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: little bit because he's a man guy. Yeah. I like Smith. Yeah, 238 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: I like Smith a lot. He can play inside. He 239 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: was it inside and they kicked him outside this year. 240 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: PFF gave him really good grades for me. I mean 241 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: he's not tiny, he's five eleven one nineties Yeah, yeah, 242 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: he's a typical corner size, right. That would be fine 243 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: with me. I like a couple of those receiver names 244 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: who are a couple more of the corners you know. 245 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 3: Mine Central Sempress, the other Florida state cornerback, Mac McWilliams 246 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: from UCF Tommy Hill from Nebraska. 247 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: Shamari Summon. Hill was someone I'm really interested too. I 248 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: remember Max bringing him up at the Mass. Likes him 249 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: a lot. He's heard a bunch. He's big. Yeah, I 250 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: like Tommy Hill. He's also another man guy. 251 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: You're kind of projecting a little bit, you know, just 252 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: because of that. But he's six foot two of five. 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's thick. Yeah. I think I'd take one 254 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of those corners. You have a feeling one way or 255 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: the other. I think I'd rather go with Hill. I 256 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: don't need the inside outside versatility quite as much if 257 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: I can get a pure outside, Okay, And I think 258 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: he'll can do both too, come to think of it. 259 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: Okay, and we still have picked left at two twenty nine. 260 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: Saff Frasier's still there as his mid field. Jarrison Harrison 261 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: Jared Harrison Hunt the defensive lineman. We take three defensive line. 262 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: Signed. He'd be cutting somebody. Jalen Travis, the tackle from 263 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Iowa States. That would be bad. That's a nice consolation prize, 264 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: right right, big dude, I would take the tackle. I'll 265 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: take the tackle. Yeah, yeah. 266 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: Jalen Travis from Iowa State. If he doesn't make it, 267 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: doesn't make it, you know, Yeah, he doesn't make it. 268 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 3: You kick him the garden. See if he can play that. Yeah, 269 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: he's massive. 270 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: No, I like that. Okay, we trade it back into 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: round two. 272 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: We traded back in around to We did trade next 273 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: year's too, but I was second right, But we got 274 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: Derek Carr for US. Yeah, defensive tackle from Oregon. We 275 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: got Travon Henderson. And around two it picked fifty eight. 276 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: We got Jaylen Milroe at eighty three, Cameron Jackson, the 277 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: defensive lineman from Florida at one twenty three, Emery Jones, 278 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: the offensive tackle from Lsuka at one sixty six, Tommy Hill, 279 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 3: cornerback out of Nebraska at one eighty five, and another 280 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, Jaylen Travis, out of Iowa State at two 281 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 3: twenty nine. 282 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Not huge o'lon investments. So there's two of them there. 283 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: We'll figure out how what happens in practice squad spots. Yeah, 284 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: if you if that happened, if they drafted Henderson, who 285 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: would you put a chip down to lead the team 286 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: in rushing, Warren or Henderson? I would I would lean 287 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: towards Warren. Most backs they would take, I would take Warren. 288 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: But that was a tough one. That's a tough one. 289 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: I bet Warren told probably get more touches. 290 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: Henderson I think would supplant Warren as the third down back. 291 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: I think Warm would take over because there was I 292 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 3: think the I think the roles would switch a little 293 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: bit and Warm would become more of the every down back. Again, 294 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: this idea that Jaylen Warren is a small back. Yeah, 295 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteen pound running back. He was smaller than. 296 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: Nausey, smaller than the biggest backs eighty percent of the 297 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: teams out there. He's the biggest back on the team. Yeah, 298 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: and then maybe it's not even early down. Third down 299 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: with those guys, it could splows up. 300 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can find I can find ways to get 301 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: him on the field together. 302 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, they both couldn't a lot I'll put you know, 303 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: they both can protect, and they both can run routes. Yeah, 304 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's well, I need to know. It'd be 305 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: an interesting backfield. Yeah, and then you know, throw a 306 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: mill row into the equation. Oh yeah, in terms of 307 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: ball carriers right game, wells are three and you know. 308 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: But you got bigger upfront defensively and offensive and offensive 309 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: A couple of young offensive Linemen to the mix. 310 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: There. 311 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: He got a nice young cornerback that you can, you know, 312 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: maybe turn something, turn into something. 313 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: And you might have a quarterback. 314 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: You might have a quarterback, and you got a running 315 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: back who is a I mean, coming out of high 316 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: school he was the number one back in the country. 317 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't probably at all. But it's a nice mix 318 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: of win now and build for the future. But you 319 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: don't have the second next year. You don't have the 320 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: second next year. But I like harmon. Yeah, and you 321 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: maybe you got your quarterback. That's the key. I mean, 322 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: the draft is a home run. If you got your quarterback, yeah, 323 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, I don't care about the second. But if 324 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: you didn't, then live the fight other day. Yeah. 325 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 3: So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the 326 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the 327 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll 328 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: be back with more right after this. 329 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: At least. 330 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 331 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 332 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio. 333 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. 334 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt Jordan Reid on 335 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 3: ESPN has come out with his top what is he 336 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: calling this top three hundred and fifty prospects? Oh ye, 337 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 3: which is more realistic. Nobody ranks six hundred. 338 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: I forgot about that, didn't what the number was, but 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: that six hundred is way too many. And again, no 340 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: one's gonna be like most teams really about two hundred 341 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: guys on her board. Some have way low. Yeah, right, 342 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: right right. You don't have to get that far into it. 343 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: So just looking here, he has Travis Hunter number one, 344 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: I agree with that. Abdell Carter two. He has Mason 345 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: Graham number three. 346 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it starts to get Harry after a while, 347 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: but that's not where I would have him. 348 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: He has esch and genty number four, armand Membo number five. 349 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: It'd be my number one, O Lineman, but Simmons is 350 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: hard to talk about. 351 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: At six, he has Jaylen Walker, the edge rusher out 352 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 3: of Georgia. This is where this whole draft goes off 353 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: the rent. 354 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: I say, it's crazy if Graham and Walker three, four five, 355 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: six neighborhood. That doesn't say a lot about the draft 356 00:17:59,400 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: to me. 357 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: Has Will Campbell's seven, the guard out of LSU that 358 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: listened to his garden. His offensive tackle is cam Ward 359 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 3: at eight. Will Johnson, the cornerback out of Michigan at nine. 360 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: I like him, but didn't that a very good year. 361 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: And he's not fast and he's kind of his own 362 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: only guy. Yeah. 363 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: Tyler Warren, the tight end out of Penn State, is 364 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: at ten. 365 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: I didn't know this until I was staring at the 366 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: beast today. Lovelan's like almost two four years younger than Warren. 367 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: Warren's a late breakout guy. You know, a lot of 368 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: manufactured stuff. I like the player, but he's not a 369 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: slam dunk either. 370 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 3: He has gehad Campbell, the linebacker out of Alabama at eleven. 371 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: That's pretty high, but I understand it. There's a lot 372 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: there to like. Yeah. The thing we don't talk about him, mind. 373 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: The thing that worries me about him is he had 374 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: surgery for a laboram tear right now, right after the combine. 375 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, very shortly. 376 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: Like again, I had a laboram tear and I rehab 377 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: the heck out of it because I had to get ready. 378 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 3: I had it during I think in December, and I 379 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 3: told my my physical therapists I'm like, I gotta be 380 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: ready for baseball season, you know, at the beginning of March. 381 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 3: And he worked me hard, obviously not working as hard 382 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: as he. 383 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: I bet camboys as well, but it took me a 384 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: while to get the full range back. I bet, like, 385 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: what's the usual recovery time six months or so? What 386 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be? Yeah, you wonder, I mean, he 387 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: can be in mini camp and things like that. 388 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: They said it was a slight tear of the labor Still, 389 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: they went in there, they. 390 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: Do surgery in there. 391 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: It's it's you know, that's not a walk in the park. 392 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: And that's what ended Tony Bisselli's career. It was it 393 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: was a laborm injury and he had the surgery and 394 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: they made it. They screwed it up. I was confused 395 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: because there's a bunch of labor ms in the body, 396 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: aren't there? Yeah? Every cup joint? Yeah, okay. 397 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 3: Twelve Walter Nolan defensive tackle from Ole miss I. 398 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: Totally get it. 399 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 3: Thirteen Mike Keil Williams, he had rusher out of Georgia. 400 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: Violent. They're explosive as I'd like. 401 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: Fourteen Tetero McMillan, the wide receiver out of Arizona. 402 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: Is Golden your wide receiver one. I can even make 403 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 1: a case for Bird, And like, I don't think any 404 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: of them are wide receiver ones. Yeah, I don't love 405 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: any other. There are a bunch of wide receiver twos. 406 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: Is exactly they are, right right. 407 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State at fifteen, 408 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 3: I mean I've. 409 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: Heard that there's a little bit of immaturity. Yeah, he's 410 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: a younger player. His tape before his injury was against 411 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: all the bad teams, even lasted in the playoffs and 412 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: all that. But even if all those things are sort 413 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: of true, he's a one of the most talent. One 414 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: of his games came against Mike Green. Yeah. 415 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point, and he shut down Mike Green. 416 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, I mean he's the most talented tackle in 417 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I think that's pretty clear. 418 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: Sixteen is Colston Loveland, the tight end out of Michigan, 419 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: oh Fan. Seventeen is Malachi Starks, safety out of Georgia. 420 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Okay, but it says a lot that. I mean, he's 421 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: a good prospect, he's on a special prospect. 422 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: Eighteen is Mike Green, the addresser at of Marshall he's. 423 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: Grown on me more and more. I like lots of play. Yeah, 424 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: if you need an edge. 425 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: Nineteen is Shador Sanders, fair quarterback out of Colorado. Twenty 426 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: Kelvin Banks, the offensive tackle out of Texas. 427 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: See some concerns about him too, but he's a guard 428 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: at worst. 429 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and mechag Buka, the wide receiver out of Ohio 430 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: State at twenty one. 431 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I wonder like Banks and a Buca, they both seem 432 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: pretty safe. Like maybe no, the one's going to be 433 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers, but in this draft, and maybe you're just 434 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: happy with safe. 435 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: Maybe Omari and Hampton running back out of North Carolina 436 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: at twenty two. Twenty three is Matthew Golden, Okay, wide 437 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 3: receiver from Texas. That those are the guys, those first 438 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: twenty three of the guys that he has with a 439 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: true first round grade. 440 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: Which seems even a little mithway too. It's a little 441 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: rich for me. I'm not sure how many. I might 442 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: have seven or eight of them. 443 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, starting off his guys with round two grades. 444 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: John A. 445 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: Barron, the cornerback out of Texas, Okay, Grey's Abel the 446 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: offensive li a Dakota State. Tyler Booker, guard from Alabama. 447 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: Scheme specific, Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon. 448 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: I look at Harmon like he's closer to Nolan than 449 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: he is some of these guys. 450 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 3: And that's at twenty seven. Yeah, Yeah, twenty eight Shamar Stewart, 451 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: he had rusher out of Texas A and M twenty 452 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: nine Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle from Michigan. 453 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: I feel a lot more confident about the three D 454 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: lineman than a lot of these players. 455 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: Thirty Luther Burdon, wide receiver from Missouri. 456 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: I will say about Burden, if you just watch his 457 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty three tape, is the best of any receivers in 458 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: this dress. Yeah, but last year was a mess. 459 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 3: Thirty one Donovan as Areku, the d rusher out of 460 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: Boston College. 461 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: Plays run well too solid. 462 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: Player thirty two is Donovan Jackson, the guard from Ohio State. 463 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: So three interior offensive linemen in his top thirty two, 464 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 3: but they all have round two grades on them. Sounds 465 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: about right, yeah, which is why I don't know that 466 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 3: any of those guys go in the first round. 467 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: I don't they should, right, I. 468 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 3: Mean, because that you do have to start, especially if 469 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 3: for picking at the end of the first round, you're like, okay, 470 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take this guy. I'm gonna plug him into 471 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: my line. And because we're good, and we're gonna be 472 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: on TV a lot, and we're gonna play, you know, 473 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 3: presumably playing conference. Maybe he makes the Pro Bowl a 474 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 3: couple of times in the next two years, and all 475 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: of a sudden, I gotta payhim twenty five million dollars. 476 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 3: It's a Trey Smith argument, Like Trey Smith's a good player, right, right, right, 477 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: But it was he, you know, a twenty eight five 478 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: million dollars a year player. 479 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: Like no, But speaking of the chief. So if you're 480 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: sitting there thirty one and you take Donovan Jackson, I 481 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: totally understand it. I get it. Yeah, right, but yeah, 482 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: may win Super Bowls here. 483 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 3: Nick Muwari, safety out of South Carolina at thirty three. 484 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 3: Chevon Revel the cornerback out of East Carolina at thirty four. 485 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: He could hit big, yeah, but who knows. Thirty five 486 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: Traveon Henderson, running back out of Ohio State. 487 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: He's my third running back. 488 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: I had him two in our first rankings. I bump 489 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 3: Hampton and half that at he's he's a good player, 490 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 3: he is. He is thirty six. Josh Connery, the offensive 491 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: tackle from Oregon. See, that's the thing. If I'm taking 492 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: if I'm looking at these guys, the guards, I'm taking 493 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: the tackle. 494 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm paying Connorlly Yeah yeah. If I'm the if I 495 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: want to pay a tackle price in the first round, yeah, 496 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: yea yeah, I might as well take a tackle. I 497 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: say that. I think the tackles are going to go earlier. 498 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: James Pierce, the edge rusher out of Tennessee at thirty seven. 499 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: Thirty eight Maxwell Harriston, the cornerback out of Kentucky. 500 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 1: He seems like a late two to me that's going 501 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: to go in the top. 502 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: Forty thirty nine is Mason Taylor, the tight end out. 503 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: Of La solid I think he's another safe one. Yeah. 504 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: Trey Amos at forty the cornerback out of Ole miss 505 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 3: Elijah Arrojo at forty one, tight end out of Miami. 506 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Quinn Shawn Judkins, a running back from Ohio State at 507 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 3: forty two. Fair arianta Urseri, the offensive tackle from Minnesota 508 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 3: at forty three. 509 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the most underrated players in 510 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: the league or in the draft. 511 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: Forty four is Darius Alexander, defensive tackle from Toledo. 512 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: Was in today right yep. 513 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: Forty five is Jonas Siavania, the offensive lineman from Arizona. 514 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: There's a chance he's a tackle. It's a chance, yeah, yeah. 515 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Forty six is TJ. Sanders, the defensive tackle from South Carolina. 516 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: We don't talk about him much, but that's about where 517 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: he should go. Yeah, playoff team in the second round. 518 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: Forty seven Carson Swessinger, the linebacker out of UCLA. 519 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: I bet he goes pretty high. There's not many off 520 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: the ball backers. If you need one, Yeah, and you 521 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: don't get Campbell, he's going to go pretty early. Forty 522 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: eight is Azeri A. Thomas, the cornerback from or the State. Good, 523 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: but I mean if you're a four to six guy. 524 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: Forty nine is Benjamin Morrison, the cornerback from Notre Dame. 525 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: Him and Ravel are both really intriguing me. 526 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: But Nick Scourton, the edge rusher out of Texas A 527 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: and M completes his fifty other guys that he has 528 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: with round two grades on them. Jared Wilson, the center 529 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: out of Georgia. 530 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: That's as high as all on him. I don't think 531 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: he's bad. I think he's a starter. 532 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: I don't have them ahead of their other interior offensive lineman. No, No, 533 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart at fifty two. 534 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: It's bold and I like it. 535 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 3: Tyleek Williams at fifty three to defensive tackle out of 536 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Ohio State. 537 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: That's late for me. 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: Marcus and Bough the guard from Purdue. Kyle Williams at 539 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 3: fifty five, the wide receiver at of Washington State. That's 540 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: about as highs I've seen him. 541 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: We were just talking about how we think he's underrated. 542 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 3: Xavier Watch the safety from Notre Dame fifty six. 543 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Whish is a little bit better athlete, but I can 544 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: get away with it at safety. 545 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: Alfred Collins at fifty seven, the defensive tackle from Texas. 546 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: If you had to pick between Alfred Collins and Malik Williams, 547 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: you don't get one of them. For the Steelers wether 548 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: d lineman, who do you pick? Colins? Collins is a 549 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: mod like he's way batten down the halls. I mean, 550 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: he's as an oak tree in the middle of redwood. 551 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: He might even be able to play some three four 552 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: n for it. 553 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 2: Oh. 554 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: I think he can, Yeah, I think you can. I 555 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: just think what Williams does, he does better than anything 556 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: Collins does. 557 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: Jayden Higgins at fifty eight wide receiver at them pretty 558 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 3: late to state. 559 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I think he'll go look way before that. 560 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: Landon Jackson at fifty nine, Ed rusher from Arkansas, Jaylen 561 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 3: Milroe at sixty Okay j T two and Maloa at 562 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: sixty one. 563 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: These are all second round grades. 564 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: These are all second round grades. Ed Rush Redd of 565 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: Ohio State, Trey Harris, wide receiver from Ole Miss at 566 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: sixty two, Emery Jones the guard from LSU. Offensive tackle 567 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: guard from LSU at sixty three. 568 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't understand him as a fifth round pick. 569 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: His round three prospects. I'll just hit on some the 570 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: bigger names here. Caleb Johnson at sixty four. 571 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that, especially with that position. 572 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: DJ Giddens is a running back from k State at 573 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: sixty six. Noel the wide receiver from Miowa State at 574 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 3: sixty eight. Right after him as jack Beck at sixty nine. 575 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: We got CJ. West at seventy six, the defensive tackle 576 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 3: in the enemy. 577 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: I could see him going on Day two. 578 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 3: Elika Yemanor at seventy seven, wide receiver at a Stanford. 579 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: Josh Farmer, defensive tackle out of Florida State at seventy eight. 580 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: Good d tackles in this neighborhood. 581 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: Tate rat Ledge is at seventy nine, the guard from Georgia. 582 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 3: Noel Williams, cornerback out of. 583 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: Cal at eighty. We were sat how he's underrated. I 584 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: think that's about where he belongs. Man. 585 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: You got Quincy Riley, cornerback out of Louisville at eighty five. 586 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: It's a little higher than most, aren't. Yeah it is. 587 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: Jaln royal Is, a wide receiver from Utah State, is 588 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 3: at eighty six. Jamari Caldwell at eighty nine, the defensive 589 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: tackle from Oregon. 590 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of noses in this neighborhood. 591 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: Let's see here round four. Devin Neil at ninety seven. 592 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: The running back out of Kansas as a fan, Cal 593 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: McCord is at one hundred. R. J. Harvey, the running 594 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 3: back from my UCF who was in with the Steelers 595 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: yesterday at one oh one. 596 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck all the way down at one o three. 597 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 1: Pretty late, uh. 598 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 3: Dylan Sampson, running back from Tennessee, all the way down 599 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: at one O five. 600 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: I see a lot of mixed takes on him, and 601 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: I understand it. It's such a weird off weird offense. 602 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: He's a little smaller, but he's good with all in 603 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: his hands. 604 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: Damian Martinez from Miami the running back at one oh eight. 605 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites for where he's slotted to go. 606 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, jj Pegee the nose tackle out of Ole miss 607 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: is it one twelve? Got zaf Frasier all the way 608 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: up at the one sixteen at a UTSA. 609 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that's fair back. 610 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's Bachelle Tooton is right after him, running back 611 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: out of Virginia Tech. 612 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: It's a good neighbor to go running seventeen. Yeah, I 613 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: know he is straighted up for one, but if you 614 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: don't get one in the first two days, you're gonna 615 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: get somebody's pretty decent. Yeah. 616 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: Charles Grant is there in that neighborhood from William and 617 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: mary the offensive tackle. 618 00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Uh, you're looking. 619 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 3: We got Jordan Phillips the nose tackle out of Maryland 620 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 3: at one twenty seven. 621 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 622 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: Scatter Bow Camp Scatabos at one twenty nine. There's a 623 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: bunch of backs rated ahead of scato Bow. 624 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm souring on. I think his athleticism is pretty poor. 625 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: Jack Sawyer, the edge rusher from Ohio State, all the 626 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: way down at one thirty five. 627 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Good, that's why I think he is. 628 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: Right ahead of Upton Stout going back at Western Kentucky. 629 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: Let's see here, who is anybody else? Note Vernon brought 630 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: in at one forty eight. The defensive tackle His round 631 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: four is massive. 632 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: A lot of guys with round four. 633 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: It goes all the way, goes from pick ninety six 634 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 3: all the way down to one sixty four. Wow, there 635 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: aren't that many round four picks. Obvious are the guys 636 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: he has graded as round four guys. Cameron Jackson in 637 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 3: that group as well. Defensive tackles. 638 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: That's pretty much covered. The first five rounds would be Yeah, 639 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: four round grades for him, right, you know? 640 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: Including compact, his round five prospect goes from one sixty 641 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: five down to to seventeen. 642 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 643 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: Draft's almost over at that. Yeah, this is what we're 644 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: talking about when we say this is a deeper draft. 645 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: Just it's not super important. But like, who's two seventeen for? 646 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: Like who's the end of the round five guys? Goet 647 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: uh me like some a small neighborhood. 648 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: Yaha, blackout to twelve? Okay, defensive tackle from Iowa. Zeke Biggers. 649 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: The defensive tackle from Georgia Tech, Mac McWilliams the cornerback 650 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: at the UCF, Jackson Woodard linebacker from UNLV. 651 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: They're all getting drafted. 652 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: They're not like the defensive tackle out of Boston College. 653 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: And Aaron Smith, the wide receiver from Georgia who can fly, 654 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 3: who can flat out fly. His round six goes from 655 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: two eighteen. 656 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: To two eighty. Wow, he might be a little generous creator. 657 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 3: And round seven prospects goes from two eighty one all 658 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: the way down to I take it three fifty because 659 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 3: he did three fifty. 660 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I don't disagree that there's a lot 661 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: of fourth, fifth round type guys. Yeah, more than more 662 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: than round It's not it's top heavy. 663 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: It's not top heavy, but it does have depth. 664 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. And I bet when we look back five 665 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,719 Speaker 1: ten years from now, we'll be like, well, there were 666 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: some mid round guys that are the really hit. Yeah, 667 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, you just got to find the right ones. 668 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: H So, but you don't pay as much for him, 669 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: you do not. So let's get to a break. Here. 670 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening 671 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 3: to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt 672 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 3: and I will be back to finish up the show 673 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: right after this. 674 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 675 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 676 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 677 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 678 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and 679 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: Matt We just traded up for. 680 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: Running back in our mark draft. Crazy move for us, 681 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: crazy move. 682 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 3: But in some people say, well, you know, why would 683 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: you trade up for a running back in this particular 684 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 3: draft because it's so deep. 685 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: In running back. Yeah, and it's a strong point. I 686 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: get it. 687 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. At the same time, I think if you identify 688 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 3: a guy that you think is a difference maker, it's 689 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: no different than any other any other position. Like I 690 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 3: want to go get the guy that I want. 691 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: A difference maker at a position of need in particular, 692 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you need to get one. The offense is 693 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: really lacked. I mean, just keep it Steeler centric. The 694 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: offense is lacked explosion. It's lacked playmakers for too long now, 695 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: you know. And if it's Rogers orchestrating it with a 696 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: fivesome of well even a eight some of Briar Muth Washington, 697 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: Metcalf Pickens, Warren Henderson and Austin or Wilson. That's a 698 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: lot better than what you've been operating with with people 699 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: to touch the football since Ben. Yeah. Yeah, you want 700 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: to fix the problem. You gotta fix the problem. Yeah, 701 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta what break eggs to make an 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: omelet or whatever? You know. Yeah, it's not free. 703 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: I look here at the running backs that have been 704 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: taken in the first round over the last few drafts. 705 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 3: Okay none last year, right, it was a not a 706 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: great running back draft class. 707 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the first running back? Jonathan Brooks? Okay Brooks and. 708 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: Then Benson and yeah or and marshalln Lloyd and a 709 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 3: lot of. 710 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 1: The more hurt. Yeah, it's not looking great so far. 711 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: The year before that, well, Jean Robinson and Jamier Gibbs 712 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 3: were both first round draft picks. Runs, right, Nobody's going 713 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: to argue that they weren't worth the picks. 714 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: No, right, And they were pretty high picks. Yeah right. 715 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, Bristol is the thirty six pick in 716 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: the draft. Pretty good player. 717 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: Like I trade next year second for the rookie version 718 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: of Breecee Hall. 719 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenneth Walker went with pick forty one, I'm still fan. Yeah, 720 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 3: James Cook also went in the second round that year 721 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: at pick sixty three. 722 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: That's starting to look pretty good. That's yeah, those are 723 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: good players. 724 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, you had Nauseie Harris at twenty four, 725 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: Travis atn at twenty five. Javonte Williams was the thirty 726 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: fifth pick in the draft. So so Nogi Harris, I 727 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: don't care what people he was a he was a 728 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 3: hit at twenty four atn's looking pretty rough, and yeah, 729 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: he's one good year. The rest has been and Williams 730 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: just got hurt. But again, you know, so uh the 731 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: year before that was twenty twenty, only one back in 732 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: the first round. That was Clyde Edwards Hilaire at thirty two. 733 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: That was another one of those that was a good 734 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 3: class where people said at during the draft, I can't 735 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 3: believe that people let the Chiefs get Clyde Edwards Hilaire 736 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: right in the draft. 737 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: Well, thank god that they didn't. They got him instead 738 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: of Jonathan Taylor. 739 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor or even DeAndre Swift would have made a 740 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: much bigger. 741 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,479 Speaker 1: Even Dobbins at the time, much better first two years 742 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: of his career. Right Edwards Hilaire is the biggest miss 743 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: of them all. Yeah, without a doubt. I will say 744 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: I really liked that group. I mean Acres was the 745 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: other one, and it didn't pan out as much as 746 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: I expected. I mean, Edwards Hilaire was still my five. 747 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: I was shocked they took him. Yeah, but I expected 748 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: that group to produce more than they did. 749 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 3: Twenty nineteen, Josh Jacobs went a picked twenty four. 750 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: It's been really good, good player. 751 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: Miles Sanders went at fifty three. 752 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: Mixed, but that's not super early. Yeah, he's had his moments. 753 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was not another pick in the first two rounds. 754 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: And one of the arguments, obviously, is these guys don't last. 755 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of these dudes. Their story is 756 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: probably already over. Yeah, Acres and Sanders and. 757 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: You know Saquon Barkley went it two overall in twenty eighteen. 758 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Well, the super high picks have all been hit. They 759 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: hit the top ten running backs or been superstars. 760 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 3: You know, Christian McCaffrey was the overall pick. Dalvin Cook 761 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 3: when at forty one a long time Joe mixed that 762 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,919 Speaker 3: that draft. To me, that twenty seventeen draft is more 763 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: is closer to I think what this one, I agree 764 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 3: might be. You had Leonard Fourne at at four. 765 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: A bit of an overdraft a bit, but it wasn't horrible, No, 766 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean. 767 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 3: Changed, it changed the face of that team really. 768 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 769 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, Christian McCaffrey at eight, they might go to the 770 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, Dalvin Cook at forty one, Joe Mixon 771 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: at forty eight, Alvin Kamara at sixty seven. At eighty 772 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: six was Kareem Hunt. Okay, Deontay Foreman at eighty nine, 773 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 3: who is still in the league. Yeah, yeah, James Connor 774 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: at one oh five. 775 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: I could see Martinez having a James Connor type of career. 776 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: Samaj p Ryan at one fourteen, still in the league, 777 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 3: Tarik Cohen at one nineteen. Again, that's that smaller back. 778 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 3: You just don't last as long, No, they don't. Joe 779 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: Williams went to the forty nine Ers at one twenty one. 780 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: Then they'll Pumphrey at one thirty two. But Jamal Williams 781 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: at one thirty four to the Packers. 782 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: There's another Packer back here. Yeah, still turn along pretty well. 783 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: You had Wayne Gallman at one forty to the Giants, 784 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: Marlon Mack one forty three, to the Colts career, Brian 785 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 3: Hill to the Falcons at one fifty six, Jeremy McNichols 786 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 3: at one sixty two to the Buccaneers still. 787 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 1: In the league. Yeah, yeah, t J. 788 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 3: Logan at one seventy nine to the Cardinals, Aaron Jones, 789 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones at one eighty two to the Packers. Uh, 790 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: just looking at anybody the other guys hit. Chris Carson 791 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 3: to the Seahawks in the seventh round. 792 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: That's home run two. Yeah, that's what he is. So 793 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: what's that like, twenty four to twenty five backs something 794 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: like that? 795 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 3: There were draft There were thirty backs that year that 796 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: got drafted. 797 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: About I bet you're about the saying this year probably 798 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: about half of which hit hit right, But all the 799 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: early guys did. Yeah. I say, if you're missing it, 800 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: if your sixth rounder end up playing a year or 801 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: two and turn into a special team or that happens 802 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: every year. You know. 803 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 3: That's why a lot of times when we do our 804 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: mock drafts, at least we have we double down take two. 805 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: Oh, I have no problem with that, Like give your 806 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: first back take and I'll take another one to sick. Yeah. 807 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 3: But if I'm going to make the trade up and 808 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: go get one of those top four guys. If I'm 809 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: getting Leonard Fournette, Chritian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cooker, Joe Mixon, or 810 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 3: even Alvin Kamara, I'm good. 811 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like the Packer approach of Yeah Williams, they waited, 812 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: but they took multiple or get a big dog, right. Yeah. 813 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: They took three backs in that draft. I did. 814 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 3: I forget the third guys name the first one. The 815 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: first one was Jamal Williams. Then they then they took 816 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Jones and then they took Davonte Mays at the 817 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 3: Utah State. 818 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: I can't condone that. 819 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 3: I mean, that's I mean, unless you got like fourteen picks. 820 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: All right, I mean, how do they make the roster? 821 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean but they've done that with the wide 822 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 3: receiver position too. 823 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's fine you. I'm sure you corrected the 824 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: problem with the cheet pick. Yeah, but someone's getting left out. 825 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just I look at that draft. That 826 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen draft is kind of the blueprint for this draft. Yes, 827 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 3: I think you can get backs anywhere as people like 828 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 3: to say, yeah, yeah, but those top guys, those guys 829 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 3: you take in the first two rounds. 830 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: They seldom miss like I I think the Niners traded 831 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,840 Speaker 1: up for Joe Williams in that draft. I remember Shanahan 832 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: like loved this guy and was standing on the table 833 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: for him. They trade up the mid rounds and missed. Well, 834 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: they didn't correct the problem they had trade from a calf. Yeah, 835 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, but forty nine ers, they never make any mistakes. 836 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: They're drafting isn't that much great? Their mid round stuff 837 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 1: pretty bad? Actually yeah, they make a lot of mid 838 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: round picks too. They drafted a kicker, they drafted a 839 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 1: backup tight end. Lately, I mean it hasn't been great. Yeah, 840 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,240 Speaker 1: so it Solomon Thomas and Trade Lance and some guys 841 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: at the real top of the draft that were bad. 842 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: I know people were probably going to be commenting on 843 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: the in the YouTube channel. Why would you guys trade 844 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: up for a second round back? Well, again, I think 845 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 3: there's four or five guys in this draft that I 846 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 3: think there's. 847 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: No way these guys bust. Yeah, unless they get hurt. Well, 848 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: of course, I mean Jontay Williams and yeah, right, but 849 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: and they're more likely to get hurt than other positions. 850 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: But everyone can get hurt. I mean, I think there's 851 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: a misconception only running backs get hurt, and frankly, we 852 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: hadn't done it before. Let's see what the build looks like. 853 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why we do it from his box too. 854 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: Do we like the end results when we do that? 855 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 1: It was interesting? 856 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, came out of liking a lot of what 857 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 3: we got. 858 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: Right. Let we end up with Harmon and Henderson, your 859 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: first two picks. That's a lot of help for this year, 860 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: and then you get Milroe. It's like the Yeah, I 861 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: mean there's a good balance of dudes are going to 862 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: play now and maybe the future. Yeah. 863 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: So anyways, that's going to do it for today's show. 864 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here 865 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 3: on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard, 866 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 3: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video gets out 867 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: there on YouTube. Gives a thumbs up on that. I 868 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: am Dale Lolly. We thank you for listening to this 869 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 3: edition of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.