WEBVTT - LAMH: Melody is Moving On 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:04.280 Right before the cameras got there. That's when I realized 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.400 that this affair was still going on. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:09.799 Stay tuned. 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.560 We'll get to my conversation with Melody Chie right after 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:20.600 these quick ads. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.119 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:29.120 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:33.320 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.920 television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.000 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:47.640 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.040 shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.200 and tweeting about. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:57.480 Hey, rain Drops. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.280 Today's guests on Reality with the King is my girl 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:04.679 Melody Cherie from Love and Marriage Huntsville. 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:07.480 As you all have been seeing on social. 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:10.800 Media, a lot has been happening with Melody and her 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.520 ex husband Martel, So we get in to a little 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.560 bit of that in addition to how she found out 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:21.200 that Martell was dating Charie Whitfield from the Real Housepots 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.199 of Atlanta. But we also get into a very deep 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.840 conversation about Melody being a force multiplier. How when I 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.600 first met her, I knew she was a star honey, 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.039 and what you all can expect from this season of 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.960 Love and Marriage Huntsville. Without further ado, get in to 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:47.000 my conversation with Melody Cherie. So today I have a 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:52.640 very special guest. She is always booked and busy. She 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:58.080 is one of the stars of our favorite show, Love 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:03.200 and Marriage Huntsville. Is an R and B singer, She 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:08.600 is an entrepreneur, she is a CEO. She is in 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:12.680 the beauty business. She is one of my favorite people 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.320 in the world. I've known her for so many years, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.560 and I am happy to report. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:22.600 She has not changed. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.240 She is still the same woman I met in the 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:27.680 hotel lobby. 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:32.160 Eight years ago, and she is. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.440 Winning in live and to my straight male listener, she's 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:44.560 also seener. I'm talking about Melody be force multiplier. Melody Sureie, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:51.800 Hello Melody, let's talk about the first day we met. 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.960 So back in the dayDay day, guys, I was living 0:02:54.960 --> 0:03:01.360 in Atlanta, and I am somebody who understands that there's 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.279 so many great people in the world that you sometimes 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.680 just don't walk up at the cafeteria or at the 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:11.680 gas station and just meet them or even during a 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:15.120 casting call. So long story short, I have this consulting 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.440 side of the business to where people would come pay 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.400 a fee and picture show IDEA long story short, this 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:28.120 beautiful blonde woman with a short halle Berry cut and 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.600 a Gucci dress emerged from the lobby at a hotel 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.160 get your monath the gutter. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:40.160 Her husband was there too, and to have this meeting. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.320 And I've said this before and I'll say it again, 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:48.480 it was love at first sight. I was like, this 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:53.120 woman is a star and I need to get into 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:57.400 business with her. I fell in love with you instantly, Melody. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.240 And whenever I meet people who want to be on 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:06.880 reality television, I always give them the Melody effect. And 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:13.040 what that means, my listeners, is Melody was herself. She 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:17.120 was not trying to be anyone else but her, and 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.640 that's what I fell in love with. And that's the 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.080 reason why I left that hour long conversation in the 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.880 lobby and said, I am going to be working with 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:28.760 this woman. 0:04:28.520 --> 0:04:31.239 One day in a big capacity. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.359 But tell the listeners, Melody about that meeting from your perspective. 0:04:35.440 --> 0:04:37.480 Well, first, Carlos, I have to say thank you so 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.279 much for those kind words. I really really appreciate it. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:42.159 Even though I've heard you say it multiple times. I 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.680 just want you to know every time I hear it, Okay, 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.840 I am very thankful and just so thankful for the 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.440 friendship and relationship we've been able to build from all 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.000 those years ago and then look where we are now. Right. 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.360 But I remember, you know, meeting with you in the lobby. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.600 I'll be honest. At first, I was nervous because I 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.000 never had a consultation with a producer before, so I 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:05.920 didn't know what that was going to be like, right, 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.920 But you were so I remember your smile. It was 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:13.039 so big and bright, just like now, big and bright 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.080 and just welcoming, you know what I mean. So I 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.719 didn't feel shy, nervous, intimidated any of that. So when 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.280 you talk about me being myself, you set the stage 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.599 for me to, you know, feel comfortable talking to you 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.680 and opening up and being myself and sharing you know, 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.000 this idea that Martella and I had in terms of 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.480 a reality show in Huntsville, Alabama. But I remember sitting 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.839 with you, having a treatment prepared, sharing with you the 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.719 idea and what we thought a show would be like 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.200 coming from Huntsville. And I remember at the time you 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.840 were like, let me ask you this, what you think 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.480 about being on Real Housewives, right. I remember you asking that, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.560 and then my husband at the time was like, no, 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:52.840 I don't want to do that. I don't want to 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.400 lose my wife, right because at the time, everybody listen 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.680 at the time, everybody is seen on how we're going 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.320 through stuff for getting a divorce, and so I remember 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:07.279 walking away from that meeting and feeling like just feeling good, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.679 you know, feeling like something is going to happen, something 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.960 is going to come from this, and now here we 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.800 have love and Mary chunstill on the Oprah Winfrey Network. 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.520 No, and the rest is history. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.240 And what I want my listeners to know, and I 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.559 thank you too for that compliment, Melody, is the fact 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.760 that it wasn't like you and I had this meeting 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:28.680 and then the next day Love and Marriage Hunts Bell 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.640 came out of it. So when Melan Martel met with me, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.159 they had this show I did called No Holds Barred, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.440 and I was like, Okay, I think it's a great idea. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.760 Let's keep in touch because at that time, guys, I 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.159 was working on season six of the Real house Spots 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.760 of Atlanta, So my mindset as a creative was that show. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.239 And I was like ooh, Melody and Nini and Phedra 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.200 and Candy and Kenya. 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:54.919 It could be very interesting. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:07:00.240 But something told me, no, Carlos, there's something bigger for her. 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.080 So we kept in touch over the year. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.480 That's we did like three to four years. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:12.080 Melody wasn't these people that I encountered today where I 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.320 have a meeting with them and they want to be 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:15.760 on TV by Tuesday. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:19.160 Oh no, No, it doesn't work like that, guys, I 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.600 promise it doesn't work like that. 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.559 No, it doesn't at all. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.040 And I will always give you the promise because you 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.800 were patient, you were You're the opposite of thirsty. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.800 You weren't begging me. You would send me videos of 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.240 you at Gala's and what you and Martell were doing 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.679 with the homes, and we just kept in touch. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.480 And when I thought the time was right, so I 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.440 left the Real Housewolves of Atlanta and I said, you 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.600 know what, I really want to figure out something with 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.800 Melody and Martel because I said, this woman, Melody Chari 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.280 is a star and I want to put her on 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:01.600 a big platform. And courtesy of just having these conversations 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.880 over the years, when I called you and. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.640 Said, girl, I'm ready, what were you thinking. 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:10.000 Did you think like Carlos child By, or did you 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.000 think like, Okay, this may be it. 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.480 You know what, I did not feel like Carlos By. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.240 I remember when you said, oh my gosh, I want 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.680 to work with you guys, I'm going to send you 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.240 a contract. I want to get you a show. I 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.760 remember that phone call, you know. And for me, I 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.720 think because if you've been someone who'd been none responsive 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.040 when you know in the text thing, I might have 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.440 felt like, oh whatever, he full of it. But you 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.319 always responded, you know what I mean. You always responded 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.920 when I communicated things with you, share with you how 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.400 hunts fell as a city was growing and moving up. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.520 You were always responsive. So because of that, that built 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.760 a certain level of kind of trust, a great level 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.000 of communication. So then when you communicated to me, Hey, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.960 I'm going to work with you, I felt like that 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.880 was real, you know, and so I was like, oh, oh, shoot, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:06.280 you know what I'm saying. Even after that, there was 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.760 still a process, not very long, but a few months 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.720 where it was still a process of shopping and all 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.880 of that. So I will tell anyone who's interested in 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:19.760 getting into television, particularly reality TV, you have to just 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:24.480 trust God's timing, and you have to know that whenever 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.760 it's time for whatever your creative idea is to happen, 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.560 it's going to happen. And things don't happen overnight. Like 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.480 Carlo said, you have to be patient. That still does 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.880 mean being consistent and persistent, but also being patient. So 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.120 I didn't just meet with him, sit back for years 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:41.840 and not reach out to him at all and just 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.040 feel like, oh, well, you know when it's meant to 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.720 be at a ball in my lap. No. I stayed 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.920 in contact with him, sending him pictures and information and 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.400 putting in my part that I could. As a word, 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.839 we even created a silver Real, Carlos. I don't know 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:56.400 if you remember. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:57.360 I do you know? 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.320 We even paid videographers and created a silver Real. So 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.679 we still were working as we were still patiently waiting 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:04.560 to hear from you. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.120 Oh one hundred percent. And the thing about this podcast is, yes, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.120 we spilled the tea and get tea and all that stuff, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:14.240 but this podcast is really an inspiration not just for 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.600 fans of reality TV, but also people who just want 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.880 to excel in life. And one thing I know about 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.280 this generation that we're in a lot of them not all, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.840 so don't read me on Twitter. But a lot of 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.440 people nowadays, Melody, they want it now and they want 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.080 it fast. And you were patient because you and I 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:39.040 both knew that God's timing overhauls everything. I had to 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:42.080 leave the real house spots of Atlanta, and I tell 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.520 people this all the time. There would be no Love 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.640 and Marriage Huntsville for two reasons. A obviously if I 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:51.920 never met Melody Martel, but also B I had to 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.800 leave that big show that took so much of my time. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.400 I had to move to Atlanta to produce that show. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.960 When I left the show, moved to LA focused on 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.400 my production company, Kingdomain Entertainment. The first idea I had 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.600 was working with Melody of Martel. But before we get 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.360 into the success of Love and Match hunts Bill, I 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.920 need for my listeners to know this. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.240 As a little girl growing up in. 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:24.000 The South, did you always know that you were a star? 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:30.280 Because baby, I can spot a star in three seconds, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.839 and with you, it took point zero zero zero zero 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.400 zero zero. I did the moment you said hey, I said, 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.080 oh Lord Jesus, we have a forced multiplier here. But 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.600 let me know, did you always know you were destined 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:46.760 to be a star. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.920 You know what, absolutely I did. I You know, growing up, 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:56.679 I was always performing, singing, playing the piano, pageantry, talent shows. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.679 You know, even though I come from a very small town, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.959 one with light Brunda Jaut. Unfortunately, I grew up in 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.959 a community and with a family that was encouraging, that 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:09.640 showed me so much love. So before I became an adult, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.880 I heard many people saying, Oh, you're going to be places, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.640 you are going to do great things. A matter of fact, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.040 what's so funny. I played community baseball for like a 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.600 year or two, right, and I remember my coaches gave 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.880 me a name, Hollywood. That was the name they gave me, Hollywood. 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:28.439 I love hearing that. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.560 And it's funny because what your name as a kid 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.080 or a teenager or young adult kind of shapes your destiny. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.360 And you've been called Hollywood, it is evident that you 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.120 were destined for Hollywood, Honey. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.000 And that's nothing to cast me out. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.520 Yes, when when Love and Mage Huntsville first debuted, did 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.920 you know that it would one day be the number 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.520 one unscripted show on Oprah's network. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.559 Not at all. I did not. I had no idea 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.400 because a lot of times it takes viewers a while 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.000 to get into a new show, right. I feel like 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.040 Carlos with Love and Marriage Huntsville. It came out the 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:11.480 gate just like boom, you know what I mean. So 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.559 I wasn't expecting, especially that quickly, for us to be 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.319 a number one show, you know. But I think that 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.160 what the viewers loved was they loved the transparency and 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.200 the authenticity and seeing real life happening on the screens 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.839 and on the television that's not scripted. You know, we 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.000 can watch movies all day and those are roles, right, 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.079 and we may relate to them. But whenever you're seeing 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.839 reality TV, real people, their real lives, and you're like, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:42.520 wait a minute, I've been through that, or hey, I 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.240 know somebody who's going through that right now. Wait my 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.320 supposter going through this, and now let me watch this show, 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.760 you know what I'm saying. And so it just it 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.960 went through like a wildfire, I think, and viewers, once 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:54.720 they got into it, they couldn't stop. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.439 No. It is so true because I produced and created 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:02.199 shows before Love and Marriag hunts and like you said, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.240 sometimes it takes a minute for a show to hit. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.240 Sometimes child a show doesn't hit at all and it's 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.000 canceled the first season. I'm not exempted that I've had 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.280 a show I created, it was canceled the first season. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.280 Things happened. I don't believe in failures. I believe in 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:19.720 God saying I'm repositioning your destiny. Girlfriend. 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.160 When Love and Marriage Huntsville first debut, it felt like 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:30.000 every week there was a different audience that was watching it, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.840 and the conversations of the show got bigger, and then 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.920 it became a talk of the town word of mouth. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:40.320 And then obviously everybody was so invested in your marriage 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:44.880 at the time with Martel, because in reality television, you 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:52.800 have never seen a couple talk honestly about the turmoil. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:53.720 They were going through. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:58.760 Did you know going into shooting that first season that 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.360 at the end of the day, I signed up for 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.640 this and I'm going to put all on the table 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.040 because that's what i signed up for. 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.720 Absolutely, absolutely, So going in I knew straight out the gate, 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.760 if I'm going to do reality TV, I'm going to 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.520 be real, and so that was my mindset out the gate. Now, 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.360 I will tell you there was still an interesting twist 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:26.040 for me because before we started filming season one, I 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.520 thought my marriage was in a good place right before 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.920 the cameras got there. That's when I realized that this 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.440 affair was still going on. So that is why coming 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:39.440 got the gate. Viewers got that real raw emotion from me. 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.560 They saw me crying, they saw me upset, they thought 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.600 me throwing, saw me throwing clothes across the room. They 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.040 saw all of that because it was real. And I 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.080 think that the audience can feel and can tell when 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.320 something is authentic. And I can also tell when you 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.920 put it on for the camera and looking for moments right. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:57.120 We'll get to that later. 0:15:58.440 --> 0:15:59.520 I'm serious. 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.040 Because Melody brings that up on the new season of 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.680 Love and Marriage Huntsville that debuts September tenth, ninety eight o'clock. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.440 Continue. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.600 Now, people can tell and they can feel that. And 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.680 I think a lot of times people are taught you 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.120 hold stuff in, and this is what leads to traumatized adults. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.440 Even as children, you're told to hold things in. Don't 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.600 speak on this, don't speak on that. What happens in 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.320 behind my door stays behind my door. What happened in 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.480 the household stays in the household. But being able to 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.360 express myself and release those emotions was therapeutic for me 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.520 in a sense right and eventually helped lead me to 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:37.280 get to a place of my healing because I have 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.160 an outlet, you know what I mean. So reality TV 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.800 becomes is good for many different reasons. People are forced 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.400 to have conversations that they may normally wouldn't have, discuss 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.400 certain things that they may normally would push out for 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:50.360 a year or two. So it is a good thing 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:50.880 for sure. 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.440 If there was no love in marriage hunts, Bill, do 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.240 you think you and Martell would still be married? 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.040 Us being divorce honestly has nothing to do with the 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.160 love and marriage hunts. But I'll be quite frank with you. 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.760 There were more people dming me, rooting for me to 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:05.840 make my marriage work. 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:06.919 There were more. 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.440 People wanting me to stay like y'all have these beautiful children. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.159 There were more people for the marriage than against the marriage. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:16.399 They loved seeing this beautiful black young power couple. They 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.879 loved seeing that, they loved seeing us with our kids 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.280 and as a family unit. So more people didn't want 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.320 me to leave than the ones that didn't want me 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:30.040 to leave. So me leaving was solely me and God choice. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:31.680 It had nothing to do if I went with what 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.359 more of the fans thought I would still be married. 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.560 Truth be told, No, it's crazy and we need to 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:39.080 talk about that. 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:44.680 I have never been a part of a show where 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:49.760 people were advocating for a marriage to stay when it 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:53.639 was evident that this other person in this case, Martel, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.200 was still having the affair, got another woman pregnant. You 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.600 would think that the world would say bitch, lee by 0:18:01.960 --> 0:18:04.840 close the door, like girls sell off. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:09.000 I remember being a target. Oh my god on the airplane. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.280 I've been stopped walking down the street by black women 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:19.440 and men who have said to me, please tell Melody 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.439 to take my tail back. And I was so shocked 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.520 because I was like, oh, I thought it would be 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:30.880 obvious of why she decided to leave in and listen. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:32.360 I'm just gonna be very honest Melody. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.880 A lot of people in the black community have said, well, 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:40.919 he's a good father. Well, you know, at the end 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.320 of the day, you know he didn't mean it, and 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.840 she should give him another chance. And one thing that 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.520 I'm gonna be very honest because I don't lie. Melody 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:55.280 can tell you. I even have had moments with Melody 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:55.800 and say. 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.119 Girl, take him back. I met Shaw together and she 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:02.480 said Carlos, if y'all get my phone so I understand it. 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.800 Do you think a lot of it is because in 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:11.080 the black community, especially when you're in the South, and 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.440 I'm not going to talk about the things I've witnessed 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.560 in my earlier years growing up in Detroit, a lot 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:22.680 of women have stayed when their man has cheated or 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.920 is still cheating, because a lot of women feel in 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:31.520 our community, at the end of the day, it's better 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.920 to know the devil you're in bed with versus a 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.520 new devil. And what that means to my listeners is 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.200 a lot of women stay in marriages where they know 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.760 their man is cheating because they feel like, why would 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:48.040 I leave him to risk dating or marrying another man 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.840 who's going to do the same thing to me? Was 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.080 that part of your process in deciding whether or not 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:56.240 you wanted to leave him? 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.440 Well, what I would say is, when you talk about 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:02.440 taking a risk, right, I would say, instead of doing that, 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.520 maybe I would want to bet on myself on finding 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.879 someone or someone finding me who does treat me the 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.880 way they should treat me and who doesn't do all 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.959 the cheating and all the bullcrap. Right at the end 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.119 of the day, it is still a chance and a 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.800 risk so to speak, that you're taking. So sometimes you 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.240 just got to be willing to bet on yourself. And 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.720 guess what, for me in my situation, I got to 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:28.800 a place where, you know, you know my song tell 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:31.720 Tale Signs, I said, I don't rather be alone because 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:35.320 you've got issues. That's what I meant. I'd rather be 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.960 alone than settle see that one sit well with me 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.119 going to sleep every night knowing that this joker is 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:44.879 out here doing this, that, and the other. Because it 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.440 goes back to your self worth and what you think 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.200 about yourself. I think that's something that we have to 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:54.680 work on also in the Black community, self love, self respect, 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.280 What do you think your worth? What do you think 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:00.119 you're worth? Is that all you think of yourself? And 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:04.360 so I literally after leaving the marriage, worked on, hey, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.159 let me make sure that I love me to a 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.200 point where I never sit in a situation like this 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.280 again when I probably should have been left. You know 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.000 what I'm saying. And so that goes back to learning yourself, 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:21.320 spending time with yourself, facing any abandonment issues that you 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.240 may have, which a lot of times people are suffering 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:27.000 from abandonment issues. Where they've grown up. Women have grown 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.400 up with their father maybe not being present in their life, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.840 so they're afraid of being alone. They're afraid of being 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.600 without a man in their life, so they settle for 0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:39.159 any and everything. When it comes to that, it's different 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.520 timing for everyone. May God bless people on their journey 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.040 who are in situations like that. I get DMS all 0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.320 the time from women who are like, you have inspired me, 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.679 You've given me strength. I'm about to leave my thirteen 0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:53.080 year marriage. I'm about to leave this twenty year marriage. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:57.919 And so I never thought or imagined that me publicly 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:04.640 going through humilion, going through depression, divorce, that it would 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:09.160 lead to just encouraging and inspiring so many women eventually 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.119 to choose self. So that's when it becomes for me 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.960 what I call purpose work, because it's bigger than me, 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.400 and it's bigger than just being on a TV show. 0:22:17.880 --> 0:22:20.040