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Speaker 1: the real king has got to be show Hayo Tani
Speaker 1: at this point because another ridiculous evening of show Hao
Speaker 1: Tony performances last night. He struck out ten guys six
Speaker 1: and the third he also hit two homers, and he's like,
Speaker 1: he is like that kid who's much better than everybody
Speaker 1: else in the Little League and he should be playing up,
Speaker 1: but instead he's still playing to his regular age group.
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like with Otani, where he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's twelve, but he really should be playing
Speaker 1: with the thirteen to fifteen year old g.
Speaker 2: It's like that scene of Benchwarmers where it's just like
Speaker 2: he puts the guy that puts out the piece of
Speaker 2: paper and he's like, I'm twelve and it's just a
Speaker 2: picture of him. He doesn't belong here. By the way,
Speaker 2: Also to mention, yesterday was not yet yesterday. It was
Speaker 2: horrid for me for betting. But one thing we threw
Speaker 2: out was the ladder betting for show Hayo Tani and
Speaker 2: it was the ladder bet of ladder bet days for
Speaker 2: a time.
Speaker 1: He threw it out for Kershaw too, and that did
Speaker 1: not go well. More on that later. What a disappointment,
Speaker 1: But I don't want to be disappointed yet. I want
Speaker 1: to talk more about shoe Heotani because we can't do it.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked this provocative question on Twitter, and I have
Speaker 1: a provocative answer for it. The question was, if Shoe
Speaker 1: Heeotani stop playing baseball tomorrow, should he be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame? And I said yes. I said yes,
Speaker 1: I think this three year window of what he's done
Speaker 1: in Major League baseball, I kind of I'm not usually
Speaker 1: that person that hot take kind of person about oh,
Speaker 1: I'm living in the moment, I'm prisoner of the now
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I'm not like that. But I've
Speaker 1: never seen anything like this, and it's so special. It's
Speaker 1: so unique and so dominant that it's almost kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, they talk about those windows of time where
Speaker 1: you have players in the NFL, you have it, whether
Speaker 1: it be you know, Terrell Davis or you know the
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson's of the world, or you know, you have
Speaker 1: players would do something so special. Both a tough one
Speaker 1: because he really didn't play long enough. But if you
Speaker 1: look at like Sandy Kofax is a shorter career right
Speaker 1: it's it's longer than what Otani's done, but a shorter
Speaker 1: career right now than what most of those Hall of
Speaker 1: famers have done. If isn't career in it tomorrow, would
Speaker 1: you say, yeah, you gotta put him in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame to tell the story of the game.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I know where you're going with this. I
Speaker 2: think the problem is is where you're thinking about. Uh,
Speaker 2: you're spanning him out. You're not not looking at you
Speaker 2: like two years, it's been insane. You know what, has
Speaker 2: he been here for three or whatever? It's not enough.
Speaker 2: Like he has been the best player in this time period,
Speaker 2: no doubt, but that time period is not enough.
Speaker 1: This can't. But here's the thing here, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: is it, how do you he.
Speaker 2: Can have his own wing, then he can have you.
Speaker 1: Give him a statue, but not a plaque. Is that?
Speaker 1: The thing is that what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We have our Mexico artists make a show hey Otani
Speaker 2: and put it in the Hall of Fame. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he wasn't quite good enough, but he did get a
Speaker 2: statue from this guy, Like that's what he gets for that, He.
Speaker 1: Gets a whitch. And I said, I'm not usually like this,
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about it. I'm saying, well, well, he's
Speaker 1: the best baseball player I've ever seen. Yeah, agreed, period,
Speaker 1: Like I've never seen anyone do what he's done because
Speaker 1: I've seen pictures better than him and hitters better than
Speaker 1: him that I've never seen somebody could do both of
Speaker 1: the things at the level this guy's doing it at
Speaker 1: and consistently over the last couple of years. And then
Speaker 1: the question becomes, well, how do you tell the story
Speaker 1: of baseball without this guy? And how much how important
Speaker 1: is it to be great? How much is greatness and
Speaker 1: importance of you know, as opposed to the compilers of
Speaker 1: the world. You know, the guys who was really good
Speaker 1: for a long period of time who are in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, which I don't begrudge them those situations,
Speaker 1: but think about some of the guys who are in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame in the last time fifty years,
Speaker 1: and some of them are no brainer guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's some guys like Larry Walker. He was a nice
Speaker 1: player for again, short periods of time. But do I
Speaker 1: think of when you can't tell the story of baseball
Speaker 1: without Larry Walker? Of course you can. You can't tell
Speaker 1: it without show ay On Tommy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But here's the thing though, It's like he
Speaker 2: is everything right now, but it's also got to be
Speaker 2: about the long term stories that he hasn't. There's no playoffs.
Speaker 2: You gotta have playoffs. They're outside of what he's doing
Speaker 2: on the field for what three years? That's it is
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame stuff. It's about stretching over time. It's
Speaker 2: about all it is is he's just dominating guys. He
Speaker 2: hasn't been around long enough to start passing, start accumulating.
Speaker 2: I mean, that is what the Hall of Fame is about. Sure,
Speaker 2: he is the picture of now. I love I love
Speaker 2: the question, but I'm not the guy. I don't like
Speaker 2: the Trell Davis playing for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: I don't like his conversations anyway, right, conversations you all, I.
Speaker 2: Kind of I'm just not interested in them. I'm not
Speaker 2: interested in that. But I think this is interesting for
Speaker 2: what you're talking about. But I truly do think what
Speaker 2: you're doing, and you're you're you are looking at the now,
Speaker 2: But I think you can't separate who O Tawani is
Speaker 2: going to grow into and what it's going to look
Speaker 2: like from where he's at.
Speaker 1: What into? I don't know what he's gonna go. I
Speaker 1: mean he's already you know, Will and the rest of
Speaker 1: the league is Japan.
Speaker 2: Here's here's a great question.
Speaker 1: Then what hall?
Speaker 2: What is the lowest amount or least amount of games
Speaker 2: played for a hal of that.
Speaker 1: That's something that's a good question. I'd have to do
Speaker 1: some digging on that, rich and which over here has
Speaker 1: a great question here if de gram is all famer
Speaker 1: than shoe Otani is. See here's where I bucked the
Speaker 1: trend on this one, because Jacob de Grom is all
Speaker 1: world amazing short period of time dominant, But then shoe
Speaker 1: Otani is also hitting thirty home runs, driving in one
Speaker 1: hundred runs. Here you can't your mind is just so
Speaker 1: blown by this guy. And I don't want to make
Speaker 1: the whole show Atani thing, but it is pretty increasire
Speaker 1: about that. I'm gonna also go revisit this one because
Speaker 1: it was a fun tweet from a friend of ours,
Speaker 1: Vlad Settler. Uh Yes, today on the Twitter machine, Lane
Speaker 1: Thomas two for five with a double, two run score,
Speaker 1: two Ribby's and he's currently outperforming first round outfielders Julio
Speaker 1: Rodriguez won so too and Kyler Tucker. So just wanted
Speaker 1: that to sink in for people there, And you know,
Speaker 1: Vladdie's a great baseball guy, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: a fun tweet. Also fun you notice how Mayor went
Speaker 1: on vacation. In fact, he went to International Waters on
Speaker 1: a cruise. The minute Paul Blackburn got called back up,
Speaker 1: five more strikeouts for him in five and a thirds
Speaker 1: w over the Yankees. So it's funny Mike mahrises, Paul
Speaker 1: Blackburn get called up, and all of a sudden, Mike
Speaker 1: Mayor is, I don't know, he's somewhere off the coast
Speaker 1: of US.
Speaker 2: I gotta go get out of here.
Speaker 1: I'm out. Not only do I have to get on
Speaker 1: a plane like I'm I'm getting on a cruise ship
Speaker 1: to International Waters. That's where he is right now. That
Speaker 1: guy's playing shuffleboard avoiding me. I'll be here when you
Speaker 1: get back, shuffle boy, awful, I'll be here. Corbyn Carroll
Speaker 1: two for four with a three run homer. He said
Speaker 1: he was struggling yesterday. Well, doesn't look like the struggle
Speaker 1: lasted very long. We said he was slumpproof. I think
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean he was on like a little thing.
Speaker 2: He had had like a couple hits in his last
Speaker 2: thirty at bats or a few strikeouts in there. He
Speaker 2: was hitting over three hundred, like a week and a
Speaker 2: half ago, and he's dipped under that, So yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it was fair to say. But what I love
Speaker 2: this is the second time we've seen Corbing Carroll go
Speaker 2: through struggles this year, and he keeps breaking out of him.
Speaker 2: That is what real slump proof is about players that
Speaker 2: break out of these things. He had that I can't
Speaker 2: walk thing, and then he was striking out bad average,
Speaker 2: back up, struggling recently going back down, picked right back up.
Speaker 2: Guy is close to twenty thirty at the half. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: So yes, I will always be here to pick him up.
Speaker 2: I mean, we could all thank me, by the way
Speaker 2: for that. I just want to point out we could
Speaker 2: thank me solely for bringing Corbing Carroll back up. I
Speaker 2: will always be here to keep him accountable and bring
Speaker 2: him back up when he struggles.
Speaker 1: Speaking of rookies, I noticed that Christian Karnassi on strand
Speaker 1: not on the futures roster. Getting what I'm laying down here, Well,
Speaker 1: did you make that equation? I just made that equation yesterday,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking of myself. Perhaps we get the cees
Speaker 1: call up very soon, perhaps right after the All Star break, could.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it would have made sense if they're
Speaker 2: not going to put him on the futures game roster
Speaker 2: because of some bring up. Then they would have already
Speaker 2: brought him up. We are at levels of like, what
Speaker 2: the hell are we doing here? We're officially I don't
Speaker 2: know if I've done this one yet. I know I
Speaker 2: did it with it.
Speaker 1: Is that an official level? We are officially?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I can't say what I really want
Speaker 2: to say, what are we doing here? Three twenty nine
Speaker 2: batting average, seventeen homers, sub twenty five K percentage, a
Speaker 2: ten percent walk, three four six slash he's got. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is crazy that he's not up right now, especially
Speaker 2: with this team competing. I know there's positional stuff and
Speaker 2: Voto and blah blah blah. I don't care bring him up.
Speaker 1: I agree. And the Vodo thing was the complication. I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. It really threw a wrench. And
Speaker 1: I mean that's the only thing, the only reason you
Speaker 1: could possibly fathom your stomach. The other thing I can
Speaker 1: think of is that there's got to be machinations. Is
Speaker 1: that the right word? Machinations match it? I don't know,
Speaker 1: there's gotta be machinations. I'm gonna the more time I
Speaker 1: spend with you I love. Yeah, I think like the
Speaker 1: macaccino cherries, like those, the machinations of a deal where
Speaker 1: somebody's getting moved opens up a spot for him and
Speaker 1: brings in a picture. I wonder if that's in place,
Speaker 1: which is like, let's hold everything together here now. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a deal involving him or if
Speaker 1: it's a deal where it opens up a spot for him,
Speaker 1: but let's keep a close eye on cs. I have
Speaker 1: an answer for you. And damn.
Speaker 2: I by the way, why Will Benson is on that
Speaker 2: starting lineup?
Speaker 1: But I just don't think that was interesting. He wasn't
Speaker 1: in the futures game, Like why I don't.
Speaker 2: I had, I didn't thought one second about that. He's
Speaker 2: one of the leaders in Homer's I don't know the future. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's well, if you also notice there is a triple
Speaker 2: A lack of triple A talent. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: double A and low A stuff, so they do keep
Speaker 2: a lot of triple A. I think Kyle Harrison, I'd
Speaker 2: have to go re look at it. But Kyle Harrison
Speaker 2: is like one of the few guys. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I look at that roster and it just like I
Speaker 2: know will Benson's out there as an outfielder, and you've
Speaker 2: got to struggle with Vado, and you got Sinzel on
Speaker 2: the bench. It's a glut of riches, but get him up,
Speaker 2: get him.
Speaker 1: So, yes, I was right, twelve seasons for Sandy Kofax,
Speaker 1: that is the least amount for a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: But then you also have Negro league players. Willard Brown
Speaker 1: had one season. He's in the Hall of Fame. Such
Speaker 1: again that's more complicated, more complex, Satul Page, he only
Speaker 1: had six major league seasons. Monte Irvin had eight, but
Speaker 1: they played a bunch in the Negro League, so again
Speaker 1: I can't really put them in that same category. So
Speaker 1: it is Sandy Kofax. So my head was in the
Speaker 1: right space about that, and he was dominant for nine
Speaker 1: of those. I believe of memory.
Speaker 2: Serve and he has six years under his belt. Otani does,
Speaker 2: and we would say the last three have been the
Speaker 2: absurd type. Because I was gonna say, like, Okay, if
Speaker 2: you want to make does he need three more? What
Speaker 2: I was going to say, it's like, if you want
Speaker 2: to make the argument of twelve being the big one
Speaker 2: of the number.
Speaker 1: Twelve good seasons. Kofax in ft twelve seasons. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not even inamation project when he's still pitched for
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers before they moved brook to LA.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying twelve seasons in general. And if you
Speaker 2: want to be like, well, he's a hitter and he's
Speaker 2: a pitcher, so maybe he needs less. I think that
Speaker 2: number is like nine right now. I mean I'm looking
Speaker 2: career wise. He's got five hundred and sixty eight career
Speaker 2: strikeouts right now, seventy nine starts, thirty five total wins.
Speaker 2: Those aren't crazy. I mean it's awesome. Almost eleven and
Speaker 2: a half k per nine and a sub three ERA.
Speaker 2: Those are his career pitching stats. Those are not Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame stats. They're really good. They'll get there. But
Speaker 2: on the hitting side, one hundred and fifty five homers,
Speaker 2: seventy seven stolen bases, I'd like to see him get
Speaker 2: to like two hundred and fifty homers over one hundred
Speaker 2: stolen bases. Continue his batting average and its pitching. I
Speaker 2: think nine seasons. I think we can start calling that.
Speaker 2: I think that'll be a slam dunk if you stop.
Speaker 2: Now Otani is in. We don't even have to think
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I see in the chat very savvy gi Alido to
Speaker 1: the Reds would make a lot of sense forever, buddy.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they would have to move to
Speaker 1: get that deal done, but I like that move.
Speaker 2: I think they they're they're complicated because there was a
Speaker 2: there was a report came out that said, like multiple
Speaker 2: players inside the team wanted out. I personally assume Tim
Speaker 2: Anderson and Giolito. That's just me not knowing the things,
Speaker 2: just that those are two of the guys that publicly
Speaker 2: are you know, privately stated that they wanted out from
Speaker 2: the team. But then there was a report about the
Speaker 2: team unwillingness to move any of the big core pieces,
Speaker 2: that they would only trade these sing like the Joe
Speaker 2: Kelly's of the world and stuff. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it's silly. I agree Gilido makes the most
Speaker 2: sense of all of them to move.
Speaker 1: Mob's not available. I'm telling you, Andrew Stieber, he ain't
Speaker 1: getting traded. Cleveland's in this thing. They're in it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna take the draft pick. They're in it. Zach Gallon
Speaker 1: four runs in six innings, the guy who had a
Speaker 1: one e RA at home it's a little bit bigger now. Still,
Speaker 1: they got to win over the race Clayton Kershaw. He
Speaker 1: was great, except he struck out two guys. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the hell going on there, but I'm not happy.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Gavin Williams, another Cleveland starting pitcher outstanding.
Speaker 1: Got the no decision unfortunately against the Royals, but they
Speaker 1: get six strikeouts and seven innings. He was leading My
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Speaker 2: We almost got it for episodes.
Speaker 1: Sel do you not want us to have mustaches on
Speaker 1: the show? People? Like I'm trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: the hell's going on here?
Speaker 2: You guys wouldn't have to wait too right now because
Speaker 2: like I have, my wife hasn't yelled at me, so
Speaker 2: like I have, you know, just enough scruff going that
Speaker 2: I could, like, you know, you can get away for
Speaker 2: a little bit. I could justify it to do it
Speaker 2: a little bit.
Speaker 1: But let's do this. What did you think about Gavin
Speaker 1: Williams performance yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I've been a big proponent like Gavin Williams.
Speaker 2: I didn't care about what some of the stuff came
Speaker 2: out of the first start. If that worried anybody. I
Speaker 2: think he is an elite talent, at least from a
Speaker 2: prospect perspective. There's still a long way to go, but
Speaker 2: I think he's the best of that crew. Thirty three
Speaker 2: percent CSW. He had eight whiffs on the fastball, two
Speaker 2: whiffs on the slider. Curveball wasn't much. Velo looked good.
Speaker 2: You know, he hit ninety eight ninety eight and a
Speaker 2: half almost ninety nine on the fastball or no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: right at ninety eight ninety seven point seven on the
Speaker 2: fastball with where it was a little bit lower. But again,
Speaker 2: he's efficient. He didn't have some of the same command
Speaker 2: issues that he had in that first start. I think
Speaker 2: this is the best guy. I love the three combo pitcher,
Speaker 2: and I think he can go deep into games and
Speaker 2: he's going to stick around.
Speaker 1: Very very encouraging, very exciting. Let's get to any injuries.
Speaker 1: Some exciting news here. You're getting a lot of players
Speaker 1: back for a change, which is good. Julio Urius expected
Speaker 1: to be activated against the Royals in Kansas City, so
Speaker 1: that's coming soon. Shane McClanahan likely to start on Friday
Speaker 1: against the Mariners. He had left if you recall what
Speaker 1: that back issue, So we'll see how that works out.
Speaker 1: Merril Kelly, myrle go to the IL. It's a calf
Speaker 1: inflammation problem. Now I know it's not an arm thing,
Speaker 1: so we're excited about the fact that it's not an
Speaker 1: arm thing, but still calf issues can be said.
Speaker 2: It was like a blood clot. I think here was
Speaker 2: like a blood clot that was the inflamating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like hopefully everything is good for Meryl Kelly.
Speaker 2: He seemed very odd. He had been phenomenal. I don't
Speaker 2: think he had even beaten up four earned runs in
Speaker 2: a start.
Speaker 1: Well, we talked about him in the you know, in
Speaker 1: the offseason, we talked about him as being one of
Speaker 1: these pitchers that just gets forgotten. The shuffle that last
Speaker 1: year was just really solid. And I feel like guys
Speaker 1: like Merril Kelly in the fantasy world because they don't
Speaker 1: have the big sexy strikeout totals or you know, he
Speaker 1: pitched for the Diamondbacks, there was a lot of un
Speaker 1: sexy things about Merril Kelly, but I think when you
Speaker 1: step back and you look at the performance last year,
Speaker 1: he was a very viable, nice rotation filler kind of guy,
Speaker 1: and he's been even more than that this year for.
Speaker 2: The more yeah more. I mean I had highlighted him
Speaker 2: as someone to trade four and that Giants start was
Speaker 2: a big blow up. Was giving up hits left and
Speaker 2: right immediate eel. I think he's gonna be sold. I
Speaker 2: think people are gonna dump him, and I think that's
Speaker 2: gonna be someone I'm gonna pick up once he returns
Speaker 2: from the I L. And this probably looks like about
Speaker 2: a two week stent. So what that means all post
Speaker 2: All Star breaks, so he's gonna get extra rest. I
Speaker 2: think he's a pick up post All Star break. He's
Speaker 2: very important to the Diamondbacks rotation.
Speaker 1: You Darvish was scratched yesterday from his start due to illness.
Speaker 1: Apparently they made him watch his last three starts and
Speaker 1: he got physically ill and started to vomit. Boomh uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the seventy r in the last three stars
Speaker 1: for you, darbish, you should take a day off or too, maybe,
Speaker 1: you know, just just figure it out. I don't. And
Speaker 1: this is a weird thing. It's not the first time
Speaker 1: we've seen this from you, Darvish. He's had moments. Remember
Speaker 1: when he's pitching for the Cubs, he had moments like this,
Speaker 1: were like, what the hell's going on with you? We
Speaker 1: thought his career was over.
Speaker 2: Swings, huge swings.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy what his career has been.
Speaker 2: Like I said this before. It actually broke this down
Speaker 2: a week or so ago when doing CBS. But it's
Speaker 2: like the guy's got like ten different pitches. He actually
Speaker 2: has eight registered different pitchs.
Speaker 1: I love I love the different pictures.
Speaker 2: I love it, But I also think sometimes what it
Speaker 2: does is it's a it's your words, you know, all
Speaker 2: your access to these other pitches, and sometimes you're and
Speaker 2: worst enemy. And I think what it does sometimes is
Speaker 2: like lack being able to lock in, like just lock
Speaker 2: into a couple of pitches and really go if this
Speaker 2: isn't working, you go here. If this isn't working, go here,
Speaker 2: like no, just attack, attack some of your best pitches.
Speaker 2: And I think sometimes that lacks for him, and I
Speaker 2: think that creates some of those ups and those waves.
Speaker 1: If you will great, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he throws a slutter, but he should.
Speaker 2: He probably does. If anyone does, it would be if anyone.
Speaker 1: Does, he should. Continuing on, maybe we should you know,
Speaker 1: have you have sponsors for different you know, sections of
Speaker 1: a show. Maybe the Byron Buckston injury report, which.
Speaker 2: Is just read now, I mean it's just wait, is
Speaker 2: there the report?
Speaker 1: Well he returned yesterday, but I mean, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know what today it's you know, by Thursday, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he'll be back on here. Chris Bryant will begin his
Speaker 1: minor league rehab assignment, if any of you still care.
Speaker 1: And speaking of assignments, let's talk about Alec Manoah. He
Speaker 1: gave up eleven runs in two and two thirds innings
Speaker 1: on Tuesday for a start in rookie level Florida Complex
Speaker 1: League baseball. Well, now I don't know the particulars of this.
Speaker 1: I just saw the headline, so of course I throw
Speaker 1: in the show. But the question I have is was
Speaker 1: he just throwing fastballs? Like? Is that what he was doing?
Speaker 1: Was he just throwing batting praductice? Like? Was he working
Speaker 1: on mechanics? Because I can I can tolerate you know,
Speaker 1: that sort of performance, But when you're in like the
Speaker 1: Florida Rookie League and you're getting lit up for eleven runs.
Speaker 1: I hope that that's the answer, because if it's not,
Speaker 1: this might be one of the historically awful stories in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. A pitcher who went from cy young
Speaker 1: contender to can't pitch out of the Rookie League in
Speaker 1: one season.
Speaker 2: I assume that this is what it is. I don't
Speaker 2: have any information this is what it's all about.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: It could have been you just need to hit strikes
Speaker 2: in the middle of the zone. It could have been
Speaker 2: we just want you to throw the fastball. The hitters
Speaker 2: probably knew what was being tested out in a lot
Speaker 2: of different ways. It's usually not for a guy like him,
Speaker 2: like the big important you know, pitch mix and da dah,
Speaker 2: da da dah. He was working on something breaking news.
Speaker 2: It didn't work and it was disastrous. And I think
Speaker 2: the most frustrating, maybe worrisome part is whatever it is
Speaker 2: that they were working on, they just let him go
Speaker 2: and go and go. I mean, you give up. That's
Speaker 2: I don't know if I've ever seen a player and
Speaker 2: the Complex league puts up crazy numbers, like insane numbers,
Speaker 2: like a sixteen to eighteen game against like the Rangers
Speaker 2: last night, the crazy stuff. I don't know if I've
Speaker 2: ever seen a pitcher hang around for eleven earned runs
Speaker 2: and that long. So it obviously was something about a
Speaker 2: pitch count they wanted him to do, and they wanted
Speaker 2: him to hit a certain type of pitch. So I
Speaker 2: think this is a little bit overblown, but it's like
Speaker 2: the worst possible scenario of what we could get from
Speaker 2: this guy, because he was out here lighting up some
Speaker 2: of the best in the world and he's getting banged
Speaker 2: around by a bunch of seventeen and eighteen year old
Speaker 2: kids off of his fastball. That's not good. This is
Speaker 2: more of the I don't know if there'll be a
Speaker 2: reclamation story on this.
Speaker 1: He's a young kid. Oh god, are we into thirty
Speaker 1: for thirty range already? If you had to get three
Speaker 1: outs in a major league game right now, you want
Speaker 1: Paul Skeans or Alec Manoa.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about, Paul Skian, I would have said,
Speaker 2: Paul Skean's probably before one thousand percent.
Speaker 1: Paul Skins.
Speaker 2: I don't know Paul Skeans can get these eighteen year
Speaker 2: olds out. He's getting college bats out. Alec Mano is
Speaker 2: not getting you know, sixteen year old Dominican first time
Speaker 2: twelve at bats ever in their career. Type of players out,
Speaker 2: So now three.
Speaker 1: Up and three down. Jady Martinez two for four with
Speaker 1: a pair of bombs, Rondal Cooney had a pair of homers,
Speaker 1: and so did Brandon Neimo for the New York Mets.
Speaker 1: Three down, Luis Robert over four with three k's. Congratulations, buddy.
Speaker 1: Tim Anderson clearly wants out over four three k's and
Speaker 1: Scosh Bell over four to three k's. Is he playing
Speaker 1: baseball anymore? No?
Speaker 2: I like carries. I'm just saying like, I think that's
Speaker 2: creating more flexibility for Tim Anderson. I think he's the
Speaker 2: biggest name that gets traded.
Speaker 1: There's and there's some other rumblings of some other issues
Speaker 1: so to speak, going around there. So more on that
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Speaker 1: Eric says that I should take an out bad against
Speaker 1: Alec Manola right now. I think I could do it.
Speaker 1: I think I could hits very much. See, you could
Speaker 1: off guys in the nineties before in the low nineties,
Speaker 1: like that was the level of baseball that I got to.
Speaker 1: It was the level of baseball that I also got
Speaker 1: to at the same time where the guy started throwing
Speaker 1: a five mile curveballs at me and I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm out. This is it because I saw a ball
Speaker 1: start here and ended up there and my whole h
Speaker 1: the soul of my body just left, and I went, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the part where I get out of baseball.
Speaker 2: This is I think the best situation is what Vapor's just.
Speaker 2: I think you can maybe pull a walk.
Speaker 1: You're not getting no, no, I'm swinging. You're not going
Speaker 1: up down. I'm swinging. I'm going for it. Bats.
Speaker 2: I give you tenant bats against alec Manoa. You might
Speaker 2: make contact to foul off two of them.
Speaker 1: I could. I could contact and foul off leaving balls
Speaker 1: up in the zell like if he's throwing just fastballs.
Speaker 1: I think I can hang sliders and other things. Is
Speaker 1: where I that's that's slutters and that's are afraid. Let's
Speaker 1: just put it that way. I'm afraid. Wander Franco eight
Speaker 1: and a half hitter fantasies score over Mookie Betts nine
Speaker 1: and a half hitter fantasy score. And now it's in Colorado,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under. It's a big number. Jose Ramirez
Speaker 1: eight and a half fantasy score. It's a good match
Speaker 1: up against Casey, let's go the over on him. And
Speaker 1: then in the betting world today, we've got Astros on
Speaker 1: the money line against Saint Louis, so plus one ten
Speaker 1: for them. Christian Hoavier hopefully will be better, and Saint
Speaker 1: Louis always finds ways to lose games. So I figure, well,
Speaker 1: let's go the Guardians minus one eighteen. It's not terrible
Speaker 1: against Casey. You can put a big number on this,
Speaker 1: or you can go for the same game parlay. Put
Speaker 1: some Ramirez hit prop in there, get one or two real,
Speaker 1: gummea things Ramirez to get a hit, you know, driving
Speaker 1: a run, and then the Guardians to win. I think
Speaker 1: you're in good shape there. And then the White Sox. Hey,
Speaker 1: Giulio's on the mound. The Angels have been really good.
Speaker 1: Someone's got to give here plus one oh eight. These
Speaker 1: guys are pitching his way out. I like the upset
Speaker 1: here for the White Sox. Welsh, what do you have
Speaker 1: on the betting side today?
Speaker 2: Do you think you could strike out Alec Manola?
Speaker 1: No I was terrible, no pitcher, No I saw you pitch.
Speaker 2: You had the fast velo you me and Donnie.
Speaker 1: No no I pitching was nothing but Alec.
Speaker 2: I don't think you could strike him out.
Speaker 1: No, but I think at ten at bats I could
Speaker 1: put a ball in play. I do, and I'm not
Speaker 1: being facetious. I can, dude. I'm telling you, make it happen.
Speaker 1: Old man still got that. All right, Let's go to
Speaker 1: Let's go to the cage. Last time was in the
Speaker 1: cage was down to Shore, down to Shore, Jersey, and
Speaker 1: I was in the eighties. It was in the eighty
Speaker 1: five range or whatever, and I was hitting balls and
Speaker 1: my kids were like, hey, that's pretty good. Like my
Speaker 1: kids were not impressed by anything, like that's not bad.
Speaker 2: I told you I the win first pitch and everyone's
Speaker 2: out here. I kind of wanted to see if I
Speaker 2: could talk to a team about getting a home run Derby.
Speaker 2: We got to get Joe out here. The expense, get
Speaker 2: the expense going all right? For some bets today, I'm
Speaker 2: going with Philly money line. I was also looking at
Speaker 2: the Houston one, So Philly money line today not too shabby.
Speaker 2: I am going back to my first three. After a
Speaker 2: disastrous disaster yesterday, I've got a weird one. I'm going
Speaker 2: with the Guardians and the Royals. First three total runs
Speaker 2: scored I think I said team total last. It's always team.
Speaker 2: It's always total runs in the game between the two yeah,
Speaker 2: two and a half. There are team totals you could
Speaker 2: also do on Yeah, they're team totals, but this is like.
Speaker 1: The game totals are game totals exactly.
Speaker 2: I might have said that Cleveland, Kansas City, through the
Speaker 2: first three innings total runs two and a half under
Speaker 2: Logan Allen Austin Cox. Both teams do not score very well.
Speaker 2: That's a some monny play. And then I'm gonna just
Speaker 2: go back to the Kody Sinko strikeout six and a
Speaker 2: half going up against the Brewers. He can get a
Speaker 2: little all over the place, but strikeouts are always in play,
Speaker 2: and Brewers always make pictures strikeouts in play. Those are
Speaker 2: my three bets for today.
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Speaker 2: just be like, hey, we're gonna trade these in, and
Speaker 2: I just keep thinking, like, how satisfying would it be
Speaker 2: if you had an Alec Manoa card and then they
Speaker 2: offer you a trade in and what they have this
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Speaker 1: I'm sad. Like Alec Manoa thing just makes me sad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not rooting for against him. Oh I don't
Speaker 2: think he was a bust for me this year.
Speaker 1: He was. I mean, there's no universe where I could
Speaker 1: have said, Hey, Welsh by July first, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: pitching in the Florida.
Speaker 2: Give up eleven ear and runs in Complex League. And
Speaker 2: it's not an injury rehab. Start right, an.
Speaker 1: Injury rehab, You'll be like, why did he get hurt?
Speaker 1: That would have been your your first thing out of
Speaker 1: your mouth.
Speaker 2: Hundred I'd have been like, oh, I could see him
Speaker 2: maybe getting hurt and having to pitch in complex, not
Speaker 2: that he was sent down to like work on stuff.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'll tell you this too. The Blue
Speaker 2: Jays have an incredible task on them and for their scouting.
Speaker 2: What the hell this is gonna be because whatever he's
Speaker 2: doing that they're not publicly telling us, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: if I were them, I would be spewing out to
Speaker 2: media left and right, this is a thing that we
Speaker 2: are working on, blah blah blah. I would be painting
Speaker 2: a narrative if it's a if they screw this up,
Speaker 2: if they screw this up. It's not just about Manoa,
Speaker 2: it's about them because if he whatever he's doing, if
Speaker 2: he comes back and it's just the same guy, We're
Speaker 2: all gonna be like, what the hell were you doing?
Speaker 1: Well? Living a different girl now? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: when you go back and look at like the Chuck
Speaker 1: Naob Block days or the guys who got the yips
Speaker 1: quote unquote, like Steve Sachs and those guys wouldn't throw
Speaker 1: the ball at first anymore. You know, the Rickankio, you
Speaker 1: know conversation we had a couple of weeks ago, all that.
Speaker 1: You know, we haven't a time now where everyone's so
Speaker 1: much more sports psychology savvy and you know, getting these
Speaker 1: guys mentally prepared and all that stuff. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what's going on here DFS today.
Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on here. You got a lot
Speaker 1: of options. Code is Segez a ten to three? I
Speaker 1: know Welsher he pointed him out. I think that is
Speaker 1: a cash game option. Same thing with Logan Web at
Speaker 1: ten to seven. Then you got some of your tournament guys.
Speaker 1: I would fade away from the two guys that just
Speaker 1: talked about in tournaments today. I'd go with Braxton Garrett
Speaker 1: at nine point nine. I'd go with Nola at nine
Speaker 1: point six, Gilito at nine point eight. I think they'll
Speaker 1: be lower rostered. And I think because they you know,
Speaker 1: even saving five, six, seven hundred dollars, that's enough to
Speaker 1: help spread around the offense a little bit. Tampa, Cleveland, Dodgers, Texas,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm looking for offense again. Tampa, Cleveland, Dodgers, Texas.
Speaker 1: Michael Garcia is a two point eight at the top
Speaker 1: of that lineup. He's been really good over the last
Speaker 1: seven games. Andre Simenez two point eight, Francisco Alvarez two
Speaker 1: point seven. Just checking make sure he's in the lineup today.
Speaker 1: And speaking of Mets real quick too. They're having a
Speaker 1: press conference. Welsh, Oh this is the today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about this the other day.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what that's all about.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt like this might just be the
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen. He's just like, we're not doing good enough, right, guys,
Speaker 2: like just kind of rallying the troops. I don't know,
Speaker 2: he's got a.
Speaker 1: Bit more fandom in him. I think he's gonna I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna come and say straight like, hey, we've
Speaker 1: been disappointing. Maybe they should look at him.
Speaker 2: That's stupid, like who cares if he has if he's trade.
Speaker 1: Raid those guys and you go back again next year
Speaker 1: and you just try again.
Speaker 2: Okay, but if you make a press conference, you could
Speaker 2: just do your stupid tweet. You don't need to do
Speaker 2: a tweet. If You're like, we're just do do something.
Speaker 1: If you're a Dodger doing sures are back for Bobby Miller.
Speaker 2: No, why not because Bobby, Bobby Miller's controllable asset.
Speaker 1: Who could even if he's you're a win now team
Speaker 1: if you're the Dodgers. Yeah, but Bobby forever here and
Speaker 1: in the major leagues, like he's gonna be done in
Speaker 1: a couple of years, might have been done this year.
Speaker 2: Thought he's not gonna cost Bobby Miller. He's not gonna caught.
Speaker 2: Maybe one of the lower end pictures they could do,
Speaker 2: like a a hitter.
Speaker 1: And you give up Han for him.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I don't think the team is either.
Speaker 2: I think they can do other They got a kid,
Speaker 2: Nick Nastrini. You could trade like him and Samuel Munio
Speaker 2: so low a bat. That's the type of trade. Sure's
Speaker 2: just not getting back like a top one hundred prospects.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. Well, Chelsea, I'm
Speaker 1: going with my home run call for Ali's gotta see
Speaker 1: you to night at home in Texas and gonna try
Speaker 1: to revive him again. I tried this last week. It
Speaker 1: did not work out well. She've got a fun one here.
Speaker 1: I like this, let's talk about your home run call.
Speaker 2: Go with Gunner. I'm gonna go with the Gunner of
Speaker 2: Henderson's because if Weavers on the man, Luke Weaver's what's
Speaker 2: called Levi Weaver, but he's a writer, the athletic lu
Speaker 2: Luke Weaver's on the mound. I want to go against
Speaker 2: this also would be just other ways to bet. Probably
Speaker 2: go with the Orioles on a couple of these sides.
Speaker 2: Maybe run totals. Kyle Gibson's out there as well, But
Speaker 2: I just figure Gunner it's been pretty solid. It's a
Speaker 2: pretty good run Righty's Luke Weaver stinks, so Gunner Henderson
Speaker 2: is my bet. No Ryan Mountcastle in the lineup. I
Speaker 2: did also think about Santandeer, just wanting to take some
Speaker 2: Orioles bats in there. Maybe Westburg Westburg wesperg we didn't
Speaker 2: talk about multi hits. Now in his first couple of games,
Speaker 2: maybe he will get his first major league homer. But
Speaker 2: Gunner for me, Gunner for.
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