WEBVTT - What Would I Tell My 18 Year-Old Self?

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<v Speaker 1>So interesting topic we're gonna discuss today, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>what would I tell my eighteen year old self? A

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<v Speaker 1>man's with me. We don't have notes in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get like a you know, five bulletins on

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to answer this correctly. I'm making you

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<v Speaker 1>sit in this chair. You produce this show, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also making you sit here because we're also close friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We've traveled the world together literally, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>need you to riff off of on this question because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting. What would I tell my eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old self if I could talk to myself, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could write a letter to myself? What would I say?

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into that, I do want to address

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of things about this podcast. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>have changed. This is episode four, fourth episode of two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hundred episodes that we've slightly We've made

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit of a change, pivoted a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And what we do on this podcast and technically still

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<v Speaker 1>what we still do, is we answer your emails and

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<v Speaker 1>you email podcast at grangersmith dot com ask anything you want.

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<v Speaker 1>We've especially since you came on and started producing the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we've noticed that as many times as if I I've

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<v Speaker 1>asked that question over two hundred times and we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of emails. You could really categorize all of these

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<v Speaker 1>emails into like seven or eight questions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you really can. In fact, I made categories of

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<v Speaker 2>folders to put them in.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your categories? Uh? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>It was marital questions, job questions, yea, spiritual questions, the

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<v Speaker 2>ones that specifically about the Bible or about church, and

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<v Speaker 2>then kind of separated up into guys and girl questions,

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<v Speaker 2>women asking questions about their husband's husbands, asking about how

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<v Speaker 2>to be husbands and which. It's funny though, when you

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<v Speaker 2>write an email, and I'm speaking from my point of view,

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<v Speaker 2>if I was writing an email, I'm thinking about what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking about, and I'm typing it out and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sending it, I'm the only person who's thinking about that,

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<v Speaker 2>But the person on the other end is receiving that

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<v Speaker 2>one and all of these other ones going Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to starting see a theme. Is there a better

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<v Speaker 2>way to answer these than going, Hey Jeff from Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your email x y Z and here's my answer,

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<v Speaker 2>and we can go hey, guys, if this is your issue,

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<v Speaker 2>which we've had a lot of emails, and it might

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<v Speaker 2>even be better than sitting through Jeff from Arkansas's email,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, listening to what was last week's masculinity? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a question that is probably one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>questions that we would receive here in twenty twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>is And it's funny you get emails from thirteen fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>year olds that you know, just got an iPhone or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just able to get their own email address

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, all the way up to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>three year old man asking I'm struggling with being a

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<v Speaker 2>man basically not often those words, but when you get

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<v Speaker 2>into the meat and potatoes of the actual email, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what it was about.

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<v Speaker 1>Week before that, should Christians cuss?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Another very popular question. We've gotten hundreds of emails about

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<v Speaker 1>that topic.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a big one that you and I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about just personally, Like, man, I'm trying to stay away

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<v Speaker 2>from podcasts that have a lot of profanity in it

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm trying to correct my language.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, a week before that is the world ending,

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<v Speaker 1>so it'll revolved.

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<v Speaker 2>Around a little event too that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, what we've done is so we basically we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't changed anything besides the fact that we've just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of consolidated the questions and this week, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>tell your eighteen year old self? That this is really

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<v Speaker 1>a consolidation of the questions of do you regret anything,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you have done if you didn't do music?

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<v Speaker 1>All of those kind of let's just combine those and

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<v Speaker 1>make one. Here's a response I did see on YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>about this. It says on a comment, I've always been

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<v Speaker 1>a fan of the pod, not a fan of this

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<v Speaker 1>format currently. I think it's better when you read the

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<v Speaker 1>emails that people send, not to do TikTok reactions, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not really TikTok people are doing. He said, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a letdown. I'm assuming that's a heat and then

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<v Speaker 1>a response to that says, I missed the emails too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think this format is good. Maybe better to

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<v Speaker 1>swap between the two every episode or something, and then

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<v Speaker 1>someone else says he might be trying to expand his audience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure at this point he'll do emails again, but

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<v Speaker 1>I can't knock him for trying new things and making

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<v Speaker 1>content since he's and music, since this is now how

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<v Speaker 1>he makes a living so Hey, people get so used

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<v Speaker 1>to one thing, you change it. I've done this for years.

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<v Speaker 1>You change one little thing and a routine this from

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<v Speaker 1>the radio world. You change one thing and they people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for instance, on after midnight, you and I

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<v Speaker 1>do good news, right and I've been like, hey, let's

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<v Speaker 1>switch it instead of doing good news the first hour,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do something else and do good news a second hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And You're like, no, people get used to one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They know good news is coming at twelve seventeen am

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<v Speaker 1>every morning. We can't change it. And so that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing. But I think, look, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>change it so that I could make more money or something.

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<v Speaker 1>On this podcast, we're literally just looking for ways to

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<v Speaker 1>serve the people better. And Abby Bryant, who's longtime fan

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<v Speaker 1>now turned friend. She's a member at my church at Maas,

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<v Speaker 1>and she told me, she was like, hey, I like

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<v Speaker 1>the new format. And I was like, well, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes, Honestly, there's for a while now, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been wondering, how could you possibly answer the same question

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<v Speaker 1>about my girlfriend left me? What do I do? How

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<v Speaker 1>could you answer that in a different way every single week?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, okay, thank you, because that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>see now maybe And part of the reason I'm maybe

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<v Speaker 1>bringing this up is so that people can comment on

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<v Speaker 1>If you're on a listening right now on a format

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<v Speaker 1>where you can comment, now, let me know what you

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<v Speaker 1>think of this. Now tell them about what your idea

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<v Speaker 1>is for the live podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole turn in changing up the podcast started with

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<v Speaker 2>while we were in Israel and I showed you a live,

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<v Speaker 2>what we could do with a live. Okay, let's try

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<v Speaker 2>that when we get back. Well, when we started doing

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<v Speaker 2>the live, like, well, what if these were the actual

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<v Speaker 2>questions and we got into some of the deeper topics

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<v Speaker 2>which you can't really get into with if somebody asked

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<v Speaker 2>us a pointed question, it's hard to venture off from

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<v Speaker 2>that and stay on the email. At least with a topic,

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<v Speaker 2>you can incorporate the emails into the topic. On the lives,

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<v Speaker 2>which we have a live coming up next to next Thursday,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the day before e E Day. Nice, we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a live.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take some specific emails and answer those,

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<v Speaker 2>plus give you the opportunity to actually ask live in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment while you're watching grainery.

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<v Speaker 1>Questions, which is so cool. Yeah, and it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>It's way different feeling on this side of the camera

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<v Speaker 2>or this side of the microphone than than anything else

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<v Speaker 2>than you know, And so I think this whole shift

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<v Speaker 2>is allowing you the opportunity, hopefully to answer more than

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<v Speaker 2>than just a one single pointed email. Well he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>answer my question, Well he did, he answered yours and

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<v Speaker 2>ten other ones at the same time. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's really the goal of the whole thing. And and

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe bring some other perspectives into your question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it allows you not to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where I that's something personally I deal with. I

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<v Speaker 2>get really lost and focused on my question, my problem,

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<v Speaker 2>my issue that I don't even consider other solutions because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't exactly pertain to what I'm what I'm dealing with.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe this will help help those viewing and listening

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<v Speaker 2>and think outside of just there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good specific question. The idea still is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the cab of a truck, Yeah, driving on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. You asked me a question, and we walk

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<v Speaker 1>through it. My goal I've been saying this lately, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the last few months have been saying that my

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<v Speaker 1>goal really with this podcast is not to just give

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<v Speaker 1>you an answer so you could apply it to your life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more so to give you a way to think.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's think through these things together, and let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you where I'm basing my thinking on. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>my thought process comes from, and I'll show you how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm building answers so that ultimately that's how we can

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<v Speaker 1>empower listeners so they don't just go to social media

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<v Speaker 1>and get answer, answer, answer, but instead they're learning how

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<v Speaker 1>to think, which is almost a lost art in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four. Let's think together. Let's use our brains instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being fed an answer. What's an answer? We just

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<v Speaker 1>literally type it. We ask a question, we ask Ai,

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<v Speaker 1>we ask Google, we ask YouTube, tell us because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a question. We've lost the ability to reason with

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves through some kind of foundational grounding. What you and

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<v Speaker 1>I will say the Bible and that's that's what this is.

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<v Speaker 2>And how to correct your thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's anything that I that I ever say

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<v Speaker 2>on here talking to you will be more times than

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<v Speaker 2>not from an experience that I've personally had in correcting

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<v Speaker 2>in God correcting me in mind, So it's never a finger,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the one finger pointed at you and the five

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<v Speaker 2>back or four to three back of me. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that that's saying? Is that that that's mine? And like,

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<v Speaker 2>if I if I'm thinking a certain way, if I

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to go back to the Bible and see

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<v Speaker 2>where my thinking lines up, if it does line up

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<v Speaker 2>with the Bible, great, If it doesn't, who I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>problem because it's not the Bible is not the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always the problem. If they don't line up together.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. So this episode's going to be about regret.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be about if we still align with

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<v Speaker 1>the old decisions that we made, and ultimately, hypothetically, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could write a letter back in time to your

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<v Speaker 1>old self, what would it be. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting topic and the reason I literally was going

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<v Speaker 1>to record this and I was like, nope, aunt man,

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<v Speaker 1>sit in this chair. I need you on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to talk to myself in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting that you and I we met

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<v Speaker 1>what two thousand and fourteen, maybe thirteen fifteen, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when a backroad song come out fifteen maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>right behind you as a b and my Awards as

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<v Speaker 1>a background song. But I don't think as a date

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<v Speaker 1>on it, it doesn't maybe fifteen fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>It was right around because it was the on the

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<v Speaker 2>on the Verge song for iHeart. Yeah, it was right

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<v Speaker 2>around that time, so either right before.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixteen something in there. I think it went number one

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day sixteen because we lost Dad in fourteen and

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<v Speaker 1>I signed a record deal that fall because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>thinking Dad would have thought this is cool. Anyway, you

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<v Speaker 1>and I met ten ish years ago and we were

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<v Speaker 1>in very different places. Very you're in Arizona. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a touring artist. Both of us don't do either one

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<v Speaker 1>of those jobs anymore. And we met and man, what

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<v Speaker 1>a crazy story. When we met. H ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>not a fight but a huge argument, and not between us,

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<v Speaker 1>but between the guys that worked for us really in

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<v Speaker 1>a weird way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be when I look back on it, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I felt, I feel like, now I've said something

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<v Speaker 2>to Tyler, because Tyler was in that conversation. You're on

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<v Speaker 2>stage singing, and I remember saying something like like it

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<v Speaker 2>was something I know smarter, like I don't remember exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I said, but I was more frustrated that I

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<v Speaker 2>was having to deal with this because it wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind dealing with my own my own junk, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's somebody else's like, I've got a man like. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>was fine and you had to say, you know, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was drama exited a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of drama to the day. And it doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>matter that the details, but the day that we met,

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<v Speaker 1>there was major drama and we were two different people.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's why this concept of would you go back,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have regrets, would you have done things differently?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that comes into play here, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you're a great guest for this. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I are very much on the same page today and

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<v Speaker 1>we probably were in twenty fifteen. Also, we are just

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<v Speaker 1>different people on the same page exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I found a video the other day of so I

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<v Speaker 2>started a show that's still running today with a different host.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Country House Party, but it was our It

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<v Speaker 2>was the show's one hundredth show, which that means it

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<v Speaker 2>was once a week, so it was two years old

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<v Speaker 2>and you were on it, and just the content while

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about it's not content. We would talk

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<v Speaker 2>about now it's like, you know, taking shots and do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like how late did we stay up? Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it was. It was just watching it back, I was

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<v Speaker 2>like a little cringey but also a little reflective. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was it's like, oh, man, yeah, we kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looked the same.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. Yeah, we resemble each other. It's weird. I look

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<v Speaker 1>at those old videos and that's just not me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just someone that kind of resembles me. If we have time,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back and we'll give the details of that

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<v Speaker 1>story that day, because people are probably not wondering what

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<v Speaker 1>was the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can't look it up. It's not on the

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<v Speaker 2>internet's blog.

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<v Speaker 1>No one knows it. So we'll discuss this. We have time,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go We'll put this at the end of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tell you what we're talking about, why there was

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<v Speaker 1>a big drama that day. I met at Man Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so eighteen years old. I was a senior year high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I turned eighteen the fall of nineteen ninety eight, I believe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always easy to remember my age in the year

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's the same number. So ninety eight, I

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<v Speaker 1>was eighteen and I was playing football in Dallas and

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<v Speaker 1>graduated high school that next May and went on to

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<v Speaker 1>A and M. So eighteen years old, I was playing football,

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<v Speaker 1>graduating high school summer before college, went to A and M.

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<v Speaker 1>Was in the Coura Cadets in the fall of me

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<v Speaker 1>being eighteen, right before nineteen. So that's kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>era we're discussing here. How about you, Oh, eighteen nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five? Okay, So I was always the year.

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<v Speaker 2>So I graduated in ninety five. My birthdays in May,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was always right around graduation the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was May May of ninety five. I had already

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<v Speaker 2>started in radio. I started in ninety four before I

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<v Speaker 2>turned eighteen, just doing odds and ends at radio station.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason I wanted to get into radio was

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<v Speaker 2>because I I was a drummer and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>meet art I didn't know how else to meet artists

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<v Speaker 2>other than moving to Nashville. It's funny, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>just had a conversation with one of the guys from

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<v Speaker 2>for King and Country, and I said, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>really good Oklahoma drummer, And then I found out there's

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<v Speaker 2>really good Nashville drummers, and that's way different than really

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<v Speaker 2>good Oklahoma drummers, and so that my focus shifted and

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<v Speaker 2>then into radio. But that's yeah. I was starting college

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<v Speaker 2>at Oklahoma City University, actually had already had I think

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<v Speaker 2>one semestery. And I started college while I was in

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<v Speaker 2>high school too, because I knew what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like we'll be able to answer similar

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<v Speaker 1>in this what I'm about to say right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening and you're either interested in looking back

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<v Speaker 1>on your life or if you are this age, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people probably are this age fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen eighteen, you and me both. I thought I had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot figured out. I hadn't thought I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on. And the first thing I tell myself is, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>you hadn't even started yet, right, You have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first thing I tell myself. The guy that

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<v Speaker 1>just thinks he's got it going on thinks he hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>figured out. You look like a man, you're the stature

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<v Speaker 1>of a man, but your brain is not. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking to eighteen year olds out there. I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 1>my old self. See when I'm see how I did that?

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<v Speaker 1>You said it, I was an idiot, and so my

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<v Speaker 1>life hadn't even started yet. It was still building, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't started yet. I played music on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hadn't. I hadn't entered a place of any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of regret at that point. I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>regrets when I look back on eighteen or younger, I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't done anything yet that they would caused me to

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<v Speaker 1>go that that mistake ended up being this same nothing yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to say if anyone's listening has made it a

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<v Speaker 1>mistake like that, not to say it can't be redeemed.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the first thing I say is I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I had it figured out. I didn't. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I start with that, because where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with this is I didn't know the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I did, and so, yeah, go to youth

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<v Speaker 1>group everywhere. Yeah, because there was also girls there. Of course,

0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the pretty girls did the youth group. Once again, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really think about it then that that was the motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it clearly as I look back, It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why did I go on that weekend trip? Well, because

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<v Speaker 1>so and so and so and so girls are there

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<v Speaker 1>and other friends were there, too. It's a social event,

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<v Speaker 1>youth group, young life, youth camps, even church itself. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was was a social event for an eighteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old and I didn't know the Lord, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it did. That wasn't a problem then, but it soon

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<v Speaker 1>became a huge problem. And of course not knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord is always a huge problem, but it hadn't manifested

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<v Speaker 1>into the beast that it would become over the next

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years after eighteen fifteen to twenty. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>a slow attrition as I got into the music business

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<v Speaker 1>and as I started fighting for what I had and

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<v Speaker 1>what I could achieve and went through a bunch of failure.

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<v Speaker 1>As I went through failure, as that's really what paved

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<v Speaker 1>the path in my cultural Christianity. Most people would be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what paved the past, is success, right, Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>not the point I'm trying to make. My point is

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<v Speaker 1>when you fail and people go, oh man, how long

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<v Speaker 1>is this music thing going to last? And you go

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<v Speaker 1>then you dig deeper, and you fight harder, and you

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<v Speaker 1>write more songs, and you play more clubs for no money,

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<v Speaker 1>and you continue to scratch and claw for a slice

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<v Speaker 1>of that American pie. And then when you finally start

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<v Speaker 1>making something happen, people go, wow, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it must be nice overnight success. And then you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of growl deep down, you go, I did this.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you say? Overnight success? For ten years, from

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to twenty eight, I've fought to have any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of recognition, a slow attrition, a slow slow failures after

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<v Speaker 1>slow failure, after tiny success, slow failure again, tiny success.

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<v Speaker 1>And then then you look back and you start gradually

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<v Speaker 1>you become conditioned to the idea of I did it,

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, I did it. And then when you

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<v Speaker 1>thought that idea that you thought you were a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>slowly starts becoming secondary. You're not thinking about it at

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<v Speaker 1>all because now all you're thinking is I'm my own God. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no one says that, no one says it in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's surely how you act. Long time ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>started grangersmith dot com. When I say a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking decades ago. Started grangersmith dot com for the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of mainly toward dates and you know, getting my

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<v Speaker 1>music out there. And the last thing that was on

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<v Speaker 1>my mind really was selling merch or much less. How

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Do you sell merch like practically? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that work physically? How do people click on something

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<v Speaker 1>and then end up buying something and it charges their

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<v Speaker 1>credit card? Well, you know, fast forward all these years

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<v Speaker 1>and now I have ye yee apparel. Literally, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the first to admit I'm not a techie person. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't program code. I'm just not the kind of guy

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. I am the guy to go, hey man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good hoodie, or this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>hat for fall fishing, you know, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get into the nitty gritty of how do I

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<v Speaker 1>actually make the program to do this? And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>to get a hold of me, did you know that

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<v Speaker 1>Log in there. You could find me and ask me

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<v Speaker 1>a video of whatever a phone message you want. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be happy anniversary, making, some kind of baby announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>happy birthday, a word of encouragement, whatever that might be.

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<v Speaker 1>You just tell me in the comments how you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to do it, and I'll shoot it over to

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<v Speaker 1>you super easy. You could also download that app Cameo

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<v Speaker 1>c ame eo and search for me Granger Smith. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>shoot you a video message. It's a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you say that kept you moving through the failures?

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<v Speaker 2>Because mine's a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I am. I mean I answered that differently

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<v Speaker 1>now today. Obviously it's the Holy Spirit today, but never

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.920
<v Speaker 1>would have said that back then. Know what that even meant?

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<v Speaker 1>So it was maybe stubbornness is kind of maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>way to define it. I was. I was dead set

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 1>on proving people wrong. I never had a lot of

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>talent in music. When I was doing the Opry's this

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.719
<v Speaker 1>is what these singing things, and you know, North Texas

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<v Speaker 1>had a bunch of these operys on Saturday night and

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>I would go and I played a lot of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and people always liked me. I was always a likable artist,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with the old people, because I'd wear my Starch's

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<v Speaker 1>jeans and my belt buckle and they I was always

0:24:37.000 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 1>very likable, and I sang likable songs by Haggard and

0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:44.600
<v Speaker 1>George Strait, Alan Jackson. But I never was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that people cried or were wowed by with that they

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<v Speaker 1>could hold the note for thirty seconds and just make

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<v Speaker 1>people standing ovation, you're comfortable. Yeah, I never got a

0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>standing ovation. So I would enter contest all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was always like the third place guy that

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was very happy with me getting third place, Like

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.960
<v Speaker 1>ah that I like Granger, the young Granger is he

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<v Speaker 1>gets third place and what a great talent. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>but then I was never the first or the first

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>guy would be like, Wow, this guy is going to

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.680
<v Speaker 1>get a record deal. He's incredible. In fact, a lot

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>of those guys did what's that one. Steve Hawley was

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys. Really, Steve Hawley, Holy Steve, Holy,

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>good morning beautiful. Yes, he was the guy. LeAnn Rimes

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>was another one the same era. That's cool, Leanne and

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Steve could just blow away an audience and they would

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 1>just I mean hair blow back. Their voices were so strong,

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they had such incredible stage presence and standing ovations win

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:52.199
<v Speaker 1>every contest. I was never that guy, never did I

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:56.240
<v Speaker 1>ever was I ever first place in those type of deals.

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And as I as I started going through that the

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<v Speaker 1>ten years after eighteen eighteen to twenty, everyone that I

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>used to do those operas with started stopping singing. They

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>would get married, they would get a job, they would

0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>have babies, and they started falling off. This guy's not

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 1>doing it anymore, this girl's not doing anywhere. And I

0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was the only one that just kept going, even past

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Steve Holey technically past Lee and Rhymes to some extent.

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I just kept going out of stubbornness. And as I

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>kept going, and all these people that used to be

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 1>around me were falling off, I was the only one standing.

0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:36.959
<v Speaker 1>And so I was able to get success really just

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>by a process of elimination. And I was just stubborn.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I'd done it for a long time, and I was

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the guy that didn't have all the talent, but just

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:52.439
<v Speaker 1>kept going. And that is what built up the idea

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of my own personal sovereignty. The old you know I'm

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.440
<v Speaker 1>doing this. I'm stubborn, I'm still here. I will keep going.

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I will prove them wrong. And eventually that led to

0:27:03.000 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>me being on top of things for the first time ever.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.640
<v Speaker 1>It took ten fifteen years before I was number one

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>in things and first and touring and first, and you

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.679
<v Speaker 1>know that took a long time. All of that is

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>just to say I was building a personal sovereignty, is

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 1>personal power over myself. So as I'm talking to my

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old self, I'm like, hey, you're about to

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>get into some dangerous stuff. Drugs, okay, that's dangerous, total

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>promiscuous sex type stuff that could be dangerous. Getting into

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>organized crime that could be dangerous. Creating your own personal sovereignty,

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>your own god of yourself. That is death. That is

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>death that is hard to recover from. Do How do

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I explain that to my eighteen year old self. I

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Part of the discussion, this is what I'll

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:01.520
<v Speaker 1>ask you to is part of this is it's the

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>big conundrum of I can't tell my eighteen year old

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 1>self that because if I don't go through what I did,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm not here today looking in hindsight about it. Say

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>I go to high school, go to college, go to seminary,

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:17.919
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of guys do. Right out of college,

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>go to seminary, go into some pastoral assistant role in

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>some local church, marry a little girl, you know, have

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>some babies, live a live an a pastor life. That's

0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:37.320
<v Speaker 1>great and there's nothing against that, and a lot of guys,

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my friends have done that. But I'm

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>not who I am today. I don't have the zeal,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't have the fire that I have that the

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Lord has given me through me being an idiot. So

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not advocating for anyone. Don't do that. Do the

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>seminary right out of high school, out of college. That's

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>way better. But I look at it like a game

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>of Djingam and my life is all those blocks, all

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the mistakes, everything I did, all that stubbornness, those are blocks,

0:29:09.480 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and you take those out and my tower crashes. I'm

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 1>not radically reborn. I'm not the guy that leaves country

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>music for ministry all of those and I'm not the

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>guy that loses river because of my own stubbornness. That's

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>all of that falls, and I'm not who I am today.

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that how you feel at all? Is that? Yeah?

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 2>What a little bit, But mine's almost the opposite. Yours

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:45.239
<v Speaker 2>was stubbornness through the failures, and it's man, you were

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>bringing back some And we've never talked about this part.

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>I think I've sent you one time a picture of

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 2>promo picture me.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everything you just talked about about going to

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>all the operays, oh flash, I did all the same things.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I wasn't good at is I

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>wasn't good at pushing through failures because there were a

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of things that came really easy for me. I

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 2>say a lot of things drumming plant. My dad was

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 2>a singer, so I played for him, and I was

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>around a lot of other really good drummers. So I

0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>learned over that period of time where you're very impressionable.

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like five, six years old, seven years old

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>sitting behind my dad's drummer, but then filling in and

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>playing at eight years old and nine years old because

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I could hold a steady beat and I wasn't thrown

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 2>off by other people. It just came naturally. And we're

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>not talking about big stage, You're not talking about the

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>grand Olafer. You're not talking about a stadium or anything

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>like that. But I was for that.

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I was great.

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>I was really good at a young age. Yeah, And

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>it came easy. So I continued doing stuff that was easy.

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 2>When I got into radio, I moved quickly in radio,

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't move quickly. It's I could say this now,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>couldn't say it then. I'm not a good singer.

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>The voice of an angel.

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 2>But that's the people will go, well, you have you

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>have a good voice. Imagine you sing well like no,

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean yes, I know when I'm flat or sharp,

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and I know if I'm not singing, you know, if

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 2>it's too high for me, if I cry, you all

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. But I would do all the opryes and

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:26.280
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that, and I when I would fail, I'll

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 2>be like not doing that again, I'm out. And you

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>know if I'm not saying that. If I'd pushed through that,

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I would have you know, done that or been you

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>know somebody in the in the as a singer. But

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>it was the other stuff that came easy, easier or

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>much easier that you know I was. I got a

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>scholarship to a liberal arts college, a great one in Oklahoma,

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not good at symphonic drumming. I'm not good

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 2>at reading sheet music and playing MOREMBA or xylophone. I

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, eh, other stuff, I don't have to try

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>as hard. Radio, I don't have to try as hard.

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 2>I was, you know, at seventeen, I was, you know,

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>rewracking carts and CDs and stuff like that.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>For other jocks.

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>And by the time I was twenty, I had an

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 2>afternoon show in Oklahoma City on a on the one

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand what country station, like voice of an Angel?

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>It stop that.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's what's funny is that I don't think that

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I have a good voice, like I think that like, okay,

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>if I do this, I can be better if I

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>And so I think on the opposite side though, of that,

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 2>of being eighteen and going through things, I didn't persevere

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 2>through some of the hard stuff, which caught up with

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 2>me later in life.

0:32:46.000 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I see what you mean. Opposite, Yeah, is the opposite? Yeah.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember one time playing an opry in Mesquite, Texas

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 1>and trying a couple of new songs new old songs

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>from George Drake. Probably I don't remember which ones they were,

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>meaning I didn't really prepare that much and went and

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember I went out there and on the second verse,

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I just blinked forgot it all, no no idea what

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>it was. And the band is just kind of looping

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're back there like it's okay, Granger, you'll think

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. And I just the longer time went by,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the more I could not remember it, and everyone's just

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>staring at me, like they look at this idiot. So

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>ended up just going right to the last chorus and

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>just finishing the song, went out the side door. It

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>was a field out there, and I just went out

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 1>there and yelled at the moon, just screamed at the

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>moon and got on my knees and put my face

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in the dirt, just ashamed, like if it was an

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 1>old Testament, I would have been putting ashes on the Yes,

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>of course, I mean, yeah, it was awful, and I yes,

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember sitting out there in the dirt, you know,

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>in my starts genes, just going I will never be

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>unprepared again, never. And and I remember someone they used

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to give me the vhs of it at the end

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>of the night. Give me the vhs go home and

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>watch it. They gave me the vhs. I destroyed it.

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.760
<v Speaker 1>You didn't want to just crushed it with a hammer,

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>ripped all the I wish I had it, that'd be

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>amazing to have it now. But that's how it was.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I had the crushed up vhs or had the actual

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>actual ghs.

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of how I built over a decade

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>of I'll never mess up again. I will push through,

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I will go back, I will redeem this night. I'll

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>do it again. And I don't want to feel this

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>feeling of defeat again.

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to feel this and I will

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 2>change it.

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I will change it. Yeah. I did this

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>to myself. This happened because of me, and I'll fix

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>it because of me. So if you're eighteen right now

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to this, it's like, what's the takeaway, Granger,

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you exactly what the takeaway is. Actually, I

0:34:57.360 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>told you I was going to bring this iPad here

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>just in case, just in case I thought of something

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>in the Bible, and I know exactly where to go.

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>If I was going to say, hey, Granger, what should

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you understand? I would say, you need to understand above

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 1>all else, young eighteen year old Granger, before you get

0:35:17.360 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 1>into this world where you think you're fighting for your

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 1>own sovereignty. You think you're developing your own talent. You

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>think the crowds are coming because of you. You think

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>you're sustaining crowds because of you. You think crowds are

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>leaving because of a mistake you made. Do you think

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you have all this under control? You need to understand

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Psalm one that says blessed in the man as blessed

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 1>is the man who walks not in the council of

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 1>sits in the seat of scoffers. But his delight is

0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:52.439
<v Speaker 1>in the law of the Lord. And on his law

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.800
<v Speaker 1>he meditates day and night. He is like a tree

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:59.320
<v Speaker 1>planted by streams of water, that yields its fruit and

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.080
<v Speaker 1>its season, and it's leaf does not wither. In all

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:08.239
<v Speaker 1>that he does, he prospers the wicked or not so,

0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>for they are like shaft but the wind drives away. Therefore,

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the wicked will not stand in the judgment nor sinners

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and the congregation of the righteous. For the Lord knows

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the way of the righteous, but the way the wicked

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>will perish. So I say to this to myself I

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 1>don't care what you do. I don't care what you

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>succeed in. I don't care what you fail in. I

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>don't care what George Strait second verse songs you forget.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>If you stay close to the Lord, like a tree

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 1>planted by streams of water, you will prosper. Yeah, that's

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the message to eighteen year olds now. That's the message

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to my kids now. And that's the message I would

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 1>tell my old self. I don't care what you do, buddy,

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what talent you have. The Lord gave

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>you all of it. If you stay close to him,

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you will prosper. Does that mean with money and wealth

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and fame. No? Maybe, but that's not when I mean

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:01.799
<v Speaker 1>at all. And that's not what this verse means at all.

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:07.320
<v Speaker 2>And what's a practical, every day something I can apply

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 2>today as an eighteen year old or you you're talking

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>to yourself, right, your eighteen year old self. What's a

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.880
<v Speaker 2>practical thing you can do to stay close to the Lord?

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you two or three. One. You need

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.960
<v Speaker 1>to be around other people that are the Lord. Yep,

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like you can't. You love wrestling. In fact, you have

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a podcast called wrestle Chat If anyone loves wrestling like

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>ant Man, go look up wrestle Chat. It's a great podcast.

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 1>When you love wrestling, you want you crave to be

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 1>around other people people that love wrestling. It's just obvious.

0:37:43.000 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>It's this obvious in anything in life. You love the Lord,

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you need to crave to be around other people that

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 1>love the Lord. Can I add something to that.

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, other people older and same sex. So if you're

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:02.839
<v Speaker 2>an eighteen year old guy, find older guys that are

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 2>close to the Lord, because they'll they can spot stuff

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 2>much quicker in you than you can and yourself.

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>That's good.

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>That's leading you away from God. And that's something you know,

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 2>looking back on mine raised by single mom for sisters

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 2>and I, so there wasn't a lot of male influences.

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 2>What we talked about the masculinity thing on the on

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 2>the podcast last week, and when it kind of resonated

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>with me and I, you know, probably some of those

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>emails stood out a little bit more to me and

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.959
<v Speaker 2>it became that podcast was that man, if you would

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>have if you'll surround yourself earlier with men that get

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 2>go to the church, and wherever you go to church,

0:38:44.640 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 2>go seek them out, be be be diligent in looking

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 2>for those opportunities. Ask you know you're gonna you're gonna

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>be embarrassed by something that might be something that you

0:38:57.000 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 2>should be embarrassed about. You know that you said, asked

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 2>older gentleman to help mentor you, and they said, no,

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>they're too busy. If that embarrasses you, but you're going

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 2>to be embarrassed by a lot of other things that

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>are much more embarrassing. Not that, but find those guys.

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those guys out, which is they're going to help

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you find to be around people like minded, people that

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.200
<v Speaker 1>love the Lord. Number two, if you want to hear

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>the Lord, if you want to be close to the Lord,

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 1>you need to go where he speaks, and he speaks

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:28.759
<v Speaker 1>through the Bible Yep, the living, breathing word of God.

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:32.720
<v Speaker 1>This will take someone. Will just only use someone for example,

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the law. David is writing here, but his delight is

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in the law of the Lord, and on this law

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 1>he meditates day and night. That word law could be

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>synonymous with word the word. So in the New Testament

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>we see the word Jesus uses that a lot. He

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.879
<v Speaker 1>who keeps my word, if anyone loves me, he will

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 1>keep my w synonymous with law, specifically talking about the

0:40:03.160 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Law of Moses, but it's really synonymous with the Word

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of God, the Law of God, the precepts of God,

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the testimonies of God. Being close to that which is

0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.919
<v Speaker 1>the Bible. That is what we have. We have the Law,

0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>we have the Word, we have the precepts. We have that.

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 1>So if you want to be close to the Lord,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>if you want to be like a tree planted by

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>streams of water that yields its fruit and its season

0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does,

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>he prospers. If you want to be that guy, then

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>you go close to him as he has revealed himself

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in the Bible. So you run as people and you

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.319
<v Speaker 1>go to where he speaks his Bible. In fact, you

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>take care of those two things. I believe your prayer

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 1>life is going to increase, no doubt. I believe you're

0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>going to join a local church, because that's the inevitable

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>place where you will go to be around God's people,

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>is the church, which is the bride of Christ. So

0:40:53.880 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I believe you'll join a local church to be around

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the people and to read the Word. It all comes

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 1>together in those three aspects. You know.

0:41:01.120 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great challenge to if you are

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>not an eighteen year old and you're somebody who is,

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, very involved in their church and is seeking

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 2>for ways to be to give back. Seek those kids

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that are getting ready to graduate because may and stay

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>plugged in with them as they leave, because this is

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>the time they fall away. This is the time that

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 2>they leave and go start exploring. They're adults now. I

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 2>have a twenty one year old daughter, and this is

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.840
<v Speaker 2>the time that they you know, that they make a

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>decision about things that do affect in real world the rest.

0:41:34.719 --> 0:41:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Of their life. Yeah, you know. And so I mean

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Granger, the eighteen year old Anthony, the eighteen

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.480
<v Speaker 1>year old that that was your name back then, not

0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Am Anthony has the full name. Yeah, very quickly it

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>became a man. Be the guy of Psalm one. Now

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>how you do that. There's a lot of ways to

0:41:54.200 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>do that. We've named a few, But be that guy Granger.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Then go off and do your music, do you thing,

0:42:00.360 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>make your mistakes, make your whatever, but don't ever get

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>away from being that guy. Now I have to say

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a caveat again. I'll say it again. That's impossible

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 1>to tell myself that, because if I tell myself that,

0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>then I'm not who I am today. Yeah. So it's

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 1>but hypothetically, mainly just speaking to people listening, I think

0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>we have a few minutes left. We should we should

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>tell the story of what happened the progress a day

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix. So the day that I the day I

0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>meet aunt man, we're going coming in to do a

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>festival that you put on a radio show.

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 2>A barbecue festival. What was that called Great American Barbecue

0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and Beer Fest. It's no longer going on, okay, so

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 2>and this wasn't the last show.

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So just what happens in radio, this is the game

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that's played, is that we get asked to do shows.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we get paid, sometimes we don't, but we do

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it because it's usually a favor for the station, hoping

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>that in return they'll either get to know you and

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:07.719
<v Speaker 1>like you more and then ultimately that they play your song. So,

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 1>as a new artist, you're doing all these barbecue festivals

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>all across the country. So did you quick quickly I guess,

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>did you find me specifically or did you did the

0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 1>label pitch me? Or how did there.

0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I specifically for you?

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was we were doing. It was on the Verge,

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>was clicking on the Verge. I don't want to get

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>into all the details. On the Verge was the it's

0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of like the the overarching we're all going to

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 2>get behind this one song and make it a hit.

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.480
<v Speaker 2>If you play a song, it doesn't look at the

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>song makarena. Yeah, the song is not a hit, but

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:44.480
<v Speaker 2>it was played so much it became a hit. Okay, okay,

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 2>well thank you for that, but so is everybody get

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>We're going to get behind this song. We got behind

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Granger's back road song. It was your first release.

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>On a Mister Lay and that's important. It was our

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>first release. This is the first round of these type

0:43:56.880 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of events. Yeah, we had been playing. We had been

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>in this for ten years before that at a minor

0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>league level. But it was very evident.

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 2>It was very evident. A lot of things were clicking

0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 2>for you at that time. The song was great. It

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.400
<v Speaker 2>was an on the Verge for our company. Earl Dibbles

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Junior was on clicking on.

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.279
<v Speaker 1>All company that I now work for as a radio host,

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 1>which is so sacronic it is.

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, have we played it on the Verge yet?

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we've talked about that on the show,

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's I mean, it was world's collided at

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>a great time.

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.799
<v Speaker 1>So that's the scene set. What had happened years before this,

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>we were kind of conditioned to playing these just hole

0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>in the wall clubs, horrible places, and festivals that were

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>also hole in the wall festivals. You know, Mom and

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>pop won off, put on, put on some one time

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>festival that went out of business the next year, and

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it was horrible. And what would happened was, time after time,

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>we've are these these places, these barbecue festivals and ames

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Iowa or whatever, and they would get either the local

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>DJ from the internet radio station or the one of

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the sponsors or the owner of the festival or club

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:21.239
<v Speaker 1>who was drunk to introduce us. And so they'd get

0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:23.720
<v Speaker 1>out there and they go, hell, ladies and gentlemen, here's

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>here's Earl Dribbles Granger. Welcome to the stage. And we

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:35.239
<v Speaker 1>would be horrified. We'd be like, oh, and we we

0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be as professional as possible, we wanted to

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>have a good intro, and and this these guys would

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:44.399
<v Speaker 1>ruin it every night. So over the course of time,

0:45:44.440 --> 0:45:47.279
<v Speaker 1>we made this rule like they can never introduce us,

0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>don't We'll just do our own introduction. So Chris and

0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Blake were doing it, right, Chris, Lee and Blakes. It

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 1>was just Chris think. So Chris, we said, hey, Chris,

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 1>you get up and just you introduce us, so you

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>know what to say, and then tell the radio station

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>they can't do it, which changed later, but that's who

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:10.160
<v Speaker 1>we were going into this.

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 2>You've been doing that for a year, two years, three years, right, yes,

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:14.439
<v Speaker 2>with Chris doing the intro.

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, more than that. Yeah. And so going into a

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 1>big radio station in a big city, this is new

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for us. And so me and Tyler out of the loop.

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Our machine is working like it always does, just a

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>well oiled machine just does what it does. It says

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:33.840
<v Speaker 1>what it says to the people. And one of the

0:46:33.840 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>reactions is we do our own intro. And somehow that

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>was translated to your team and you guys, I don't

0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 1>know how that went down, but we do our own intro.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Well on our side, what we get is we get

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.880
<v Speaker 2>either a hard intro or soft.

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Intro, yes, which is what we did later in life

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>as we learned that lingo.

0:46:54.080 --> 0:46:56.959
<v Speaker 2>So what the record label guy told me was that Hey,

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 2>this is a soft intro, which typically for us means

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>it's a video intro, like you have this big production

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>that happens and it leads into the production the first song.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>And stuff like. That's what typical. Let me just tell

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>people what that means. A hard intro means the guy says,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>welcome to stage, Granger Smith. The band plays, the soft

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 1>intro is welcome in just a few more minutes, Granger Smith,

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and then the lights go down, maybe a video intro plays,

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>or maybe a one more DJ song. But most of

0:47:24.440 --> 0:47:26.319
<v Speaker 1>y'all have that have seen me in concert are used

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>to the soft intro.

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, go ahead, right, yeah, but that's what that was

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the word we got, so I related to our Morning

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:34.440
<v Speaker 2>show that it's soft intro. So when you go back

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 2>up X y Z, you know, thank all the sponsors again,

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and don't you know, basically, the last thing you need

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 2>to say is guys, get ready, Granger Smith's coming up next.

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 2>That's the basic and that's what they were told, and

0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what they did. And then in their eyes, the

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:57.040
<v Speaker 2>Morning Show's eyes, somebody else got up and said, hey,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>you all ready to go?

0:47:58.600 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give me a eee.

0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 2>The crowd knows like, and so while that's happening, my

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Morning show looks at me and looks at the stage

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>and goes, I thought this was a soft intro. That

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 2>guy's doing a hard intro. And they left.

0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So we took the glory away from the Morning show. Yeah, yeah,

0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't totally blame them, because this was something that

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 1>just that's just bad ethics. That's bad concert ethics that

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:25.399
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know. And in the Morning Show, I now,

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:28.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a great guy, and we've now, you know, years,

0:48:28.560 --> 0:48:32.719
<v Speaker 1>this has been over a decade ago almost, but in

0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>his eyes, we are directly we know what we're doing,

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and we're doing it on purpose in his face.

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Tell him a soft intro so we can do what.

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.839
<v Speaker 1>We so we could do because he's not good enough.

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:45.799
<v Speaker 1>What we didn't know that that was even a thing,

0:48:46.080 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and so we didn't even see that going down. So

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he goes to Twitter and he blasts me on Twitter.

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>It's like three in a row and everyone joined in,

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and what he's saying is things like this new guy,

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>this new artist here, he is brand new. He thinks

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he's hot stuff. All these new artists of these ego problems,

0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, and people all in the radiosphere that see

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.359
<v Speaker 1>it on Twitter are like, oh wow, I don't know

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>this Grangersmith guy, but he sounds like a punk.

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 2>He's a jerk, he's The best line though, was from

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.200
<v Speaker 2>him from Matt was, who's the morning show guy? He

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:25.200
<v Speaker 2>was that it seems that you don't know. I'm still paraphrasing,

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 2>but the line is you don't know where your bread

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 2>is buttered. It's the best line. Was like, that's what

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I remember from it was buttering of the bread. That

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>that really set it over the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>So all this is going down while I'm playing the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. This is no clue, no clue.

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler sees it. I guess on Twitter and it goes

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I actually I had I started kind of it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're talking three quarters of the way through

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<v Speaker 2>the show where I really know anything. So and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of going to beat the crowd. I'm gonna roll out.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I go, and I'm in my car and

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<v Speaker 2>I see stuff on my phone. So I open it

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<v Speaker 2>up and I'm like, and I go, and I opened

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<v Speaker 2>my door back up and get out of my car

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<v Speaker 2>and shut it and text the record rep and go Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go, let's talk, and and uh, hey can you

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<v Speaker 2>meet me here? And so the record rep who's my relationship?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>And Tyler?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Who that that's my first time meeting Tyler. Ever is

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<v Speaker 2>this is this this whole ordeal? And like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember saying something smarter like just because I'm tired,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's Arizona and it's you know, even in March,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking like ninety eight degrees, you know, one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>degrees you know, close to that anyway, and it's hot,

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<v Speaker 2>it's barbecue, been out there all day long, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got to deal with this mess from a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>in bed sleeping already, you know, because he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>up the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was our I'm sorry, first time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we met. Obviously we ever, everything is good,

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>all already is involved, except for the record rep. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know? That was a different story. That's that's another podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of that all that to say, most most

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<v Speaker 1>of y'all know, you know a man and how close

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<v Speaker 1>we work together worldwide and different shows we do together,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that was our beginning. So buddy, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being on this podcast. Thanks for helping us wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>with a really interesting question, what I tell my eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>yar him self? Yeah, see y'all next week. Thanks for

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