Speaker 1: So interesting topic we're gonna discuss today, and that is
Speaker 1: what would I tell my eighteen year old self? A
Speaker 1: man's with me. We don't have notes in front of us.
Speaker 1: I didn't get like a you know, five bulletins on
Speaker 1: you know how to answer this correctly. I'm making you
Speaker 1: sit in this chair. You produce this show, and I'm
Speaker 1: also making you sit here because we're also close friends.
Speaker 1: We've traveled the world together literally, and I think I
Speaker 1: need you to riff off of on this question because
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. What would I tell my eighteen
Speaker 1: year old self if I could talk to myself, if
Speaker 1: I could write a letter to myself? What would I say?
Speaker 1: Before we get into that, I do want to address
Speaker 1: a couple of things about this podcast. You and I
Speaker 1: have changed. This is episode four, fourth episode of two
Speaker 1: and a half hundred episodes that we've slightly We've made
Speaker 1: it a little bit of a change, pivoted a little bit.
Speaker 1: And what we do on this podcast and technically still
Speaker 1: what we still do, is we answer your emails and
Speaker 1: you email podcast at grangersmith dot com ask anything you want.
Speaker 1: We've especially since you came on and started producing the show,
Speaker 1: we've noticed that as many times as if I I've
Speaker 1: asked that question over two hundred times and we've gotten
Speaker 1: thousands of emails. You could really categorize all of these
Speaker 1: emails into like seven or eight questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really can. In fact, I made categories of
Speaker 2: folders to put them in.
Speaker 1: What are your categories? Uh? You know?
Speaker 2: It was marital questions, job questions, yea, spiritual questions, the
Speaker 2: ones that specifically about the Bible or about church, and
Speaker 2: then kind of separated up into guys and girl questions,
Speaker 2: women asking questions about their husband's husbands, asking about how
Speaker 2: to be husbands and which. It's funny though, when you
Speaker 2: write an email, and I'm speaking from my point of view,
Speaker 2: if I was writing an email, I'm thinking about what
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about, and I'm typing it out and I'm
Speaker 2: sending it, I'm the only person who's thinking about that,
Speaker 2: But the person on the other end is receiving that
Speaker 2: one and all of these other ones going Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: starting to starting see a theme. Is there a better
Speaker 2: way to answer these than going, Hey Jeff from Arkansas,
Speaker 2: here's your email x y Z and here's my answer,
Speaker 2: and we can go hey, guys, if this is your issue,
Speaker 2: which we've had a lot of emails, and it might
Speaker 2: even be better than sitting through Jeff from Arkansas's email,
Speaker 2: you know, listening to what was last week's masculinity? I mean,
Speaker 2: that's a question that is probably one of the biggest
Speaker 2: questions that we would receive here in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: is And it's funny you get emails from thirteen fourteen
Speaker 2: year olds that you know, just got an iPhone or
Speaker 2: you know, just able to get their own email address
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, all the way up to fifty
Speaker 2: three year old man asking I'm struggling with being a
Speaker 2: man basically not often those words, but when you get
Speaker 2: into the meat and potatoes of the actual email, that's
Speaker 2: what it was about.
Speaker 1: Week before that, should Christians cuss?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Another very popular question. We've gotten hundreds of emails about
Speaker 1: that topic.
Speaker 2: That was a big one that you and I talked
Speaker 2: about just personally, Like, man, I'm trying to stay away
Speaker 2: from podcasts that have a lot of profanity in it
Speaker 2: because I'm trying to correct my language.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, a week before that is the world ending,
Speaker 1: so it'll revolved.
Speaker 2: Around a little event too that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, what we've done is so we basically we
Speaker 1: haven't changed anything besides the fact that we've just kind
Speaker 1: of consolidated the questions and this week, what would you
Speaker 1: tell your eighteen year old self? That this is really
Speaker 1: a consolidation of the questions of do you regret anything,
Speaker 1: what would you have done if you didn't do music?
Speaker 1: All of those kind of let's just combine those and
Speaker 1: make one. Here's a response I did see on YouTube
Speaker 1: about this. It says on a comment, I've always been
Speaker 1: a fan of the pod, not a fan of this
Speaker 1: format currently. I think it's better when you read the
Speaker 1: emails that people send, not to do TikTok reactions, which
Speaker 1: is not really TikTok people are doing. He said, kind
Speaker 1: of a letdown. I'm assuming that's a heat and then
Speaker 1: a response to that says, I missed the emails too,
Speaker 1: but I think this format is good. Maybe better to
Speaker 1: swap between the two every episode or something, and then
Speaker 1: someone else says he might be trying to expand his audience.
Speaker 1: I'm sure at this point he'll do emails again, but
Speaker 1: I can't knock him for trying new things and making
Speaker 1: content since he's and music, since this is now how
Speaker 1: he makes a living so Hey, people get so used
Speaker 1: to one thing, you change it. I've done this for years.
Speaker 1: You change one little thing and a routine this from
Speaker 1: the radio world. You change one thing and they people.
Speaker 1: You know, for instance, on after midnight, you and I
Speaker 1: do good news, right and I've been like, hey, let's
Speaker 1: switch it instead of doing good news the first hour,
Speaker 1: let's do something else and do good news a second hour.
Speaker 1: And You're like, no, people get used to one thing.
Speaker 1: They know good news is coming at twelve seventeen am
Speaker 1: every morning. We can't change it. And so that's what
Speaker 1: we're seeing. But I think, look, I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: change it so that I could make more money or something.
Speaker 1: On this podcast, we're literally just looking for ways to
Speaker 1: serve the people better. And Abby Bryant, who's longtime fan
Speaker 1: now turned friend. She's a member at my church at Maas,
Speaker 1: and she told me, she was like, hey, I like
Speaker 1: the new format. And I was like, well, thank you,
Speaker 1: and she goes, Honestly, there's for a while now, I've
Speaker 1: been wondering, how could you possibly answer the same question
Speaker 1: about my girlfriend left me? What do I do? How
Speaker 1: could you answer that in a different way every single week?
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, thank you, because that's what we
Speaker 1: see now maybe And part of the reason I'm maybe
Speaker 1: bringing this up is so that people can comment on
Speaker 1: If you're on a listening right now on a format
Speaker 1: where you can comment, now, let me know what you
Speaker 1: think of this. Now tell them about what your idea
Speaker 1: is for the live podcast.
Speaker 2: This whole turn in changing up the podcast started with
Speaker 2: while we were in Israel and I showed you a live,
Speaker 2: what we could do with a live. Okay, let's try
Speaker 2: that when we get back. Well, when we started doing
Speaker 2: the live, like, well, what if these were the actual
Speaker 2: questions and we got into some of the deeper topics
Speaker 2: which you can't really get into with if somebody asked
Speaker 2: us a pointed question, it's hard to venture off from
Speaker 2: that and stay on the email. At least with a topic,
Speaker 2: you can incorporate the emails into the topic. On the lives,
Speaker 2: which we have a live coming up next to next Thursday,
Speaker 2: you know, the day before e E Day. Nice, we'll do
Speaker 2: a live.
Speaker 1: That's a great.
Speaker 2: We're going to take some specific emails and answer those,
Speaker 2: plus give you the opportunity to actually ask live in
Speaker 2: the moment while you're watching grainery.
Speaker 1: Questions, which is so cool. Yeah, and it's a.
Speaker 2: It's way different feeling on this side of the camera
Speaker 2: or this side of the microphone than than anything else
Speaker 2: than you know, And so I think this whole shift
Speaker 2: is allowing you the opportunity, hopefully to answer more than
Speaker 2: than just a one single pointed email. Well he didn't
Speaker 2: answer my question, Well he did, he answered yours and
Speaker 2: ten other ones at the same time. And so that's
Speaker 2: that's really the goal of the whole thing. And and
Speaker 2: to maybe bring some other perspectives into your question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, it allows you not to do it, and
Speaker 2: that's where I that's something personally I deal with. I
Speaker 2: get really lost and focused on my question, my problem,
Speaker 2: my issue that I don't even consider other solutions because
Speaker 2: it doesn't exactly pertain to what I'm what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2: So maybe this will help help those viewing and listening
Speaker 2: and think outside of just there.
Speaker 1: That's good specific question. The idea still is that we're
Speaker 1: sitting in the cab of a truck, Yeah, driving on
Speaker 1: the road. You asked me a question, and we walk
Speaker 1: through it. My goal I've been saying this lately, like
Speaker 1: maybe the last few months have been saying that my
Speaker 1: goal really with this podcast is not to just give
Speaker 1: you an answer so you could apply it to your life.
Speaker 1: It's more so to give you a way to think.
Speaker 1: Let's think through these things together, and let me tell
Speaker 1: you where I'm basing my thinking on. This is where
Speaker 1: my thought process comes from, and I'll show you how
Speaker 1: I'm building answers so that ultimately that's how we can
Speaker 1: empower listeners so they don't just go to social media
Speaker 1: and get answer, answer, answer, but instead they're learning how
Speaker 1: to think, which is almost a lost art in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Let's think together. Let's use our brains instead
Speaker 1: of being fed an answer. What's an answer? We just
Speaker 1: literally type it. We ask a question, we ask Ai,
Speaker 1: we ask Google, we ask YouTube, tell us because I
Speaker 1: have a question. We've lost the ability to reason with
Speaker 1: ourselves through some kind of foundational grounding. What you and
Speaker 1: I will say the Bible and that's that's what this is.
Speaker 2: And how to correct your thinking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: I mean that's anything that I that I ever say
Speaker 2: on here talking to you will be more times than
Speaker 2: not from an experience that I've personally had in correcting
Speaker 2: in God correcting me in mind, So it's never a finger,
Speaker 2: it's the one finger pointed at you and the five
Speaker 2: back or four to three back of me. You know
Speaker 2: that that's saying? Is that that that's mine? And like,
Speaker 2: if I if I'm thinking a certain way, if I
Speaker 2: learn how to go back to the Bible and see
Speaker 2: where my thinking lines up, if it does line up
Speaker 2: with the Bible, great, If it doesn't, who I'm the
Speaker 2: problem because it's not the Bible is not the problem.
Speaker 2: I'm always the problem. If they don't line up together.
Speaker 1: That's good. So this episode's going to be about regret.
Speaker 1: It's going to be about if we still align with
Speaker 1: the old decisions that we made, and ultimately, hypothetically, if
Speaker 1: you could write a letter back in time to your
Speaker 1: old self, what would it be. I think this is
Speaker 1: an interesting topic and the reason I literally was going
Speaker 1: to record this and I was like, nope, aunt man,
Speaker 1: sit in this chair. I need you on this one.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to myself in this one.
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you and I we met
Speaker 1: what two thousand and fourteen, maybe thirteen fifteen, I don't
Speaker 1: know when a backroad song come out fifteen maybe I
Speaker 1: right behind you as a b and my Awards as
Speaker 1: a background song. But I don't think as a date
Speaker 1: on it, it doesn't maybe fifteen fourteen.
Speaker 2: It was right around because it was the on the
Speaker 2: on the Verge song for iHeart. Yeah, it was right
Speaker 2: around that time, so either right before.
Speaker 1: Sixteen something in there. I think it went number one
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day sixteen because we lost Dad in fourteen and
Speaker 1: I signed a record deal that fall because I remember
Speaker 1: thinking Dad would have thought this is cool. Anyway, you
Speaker 1: and I met ten ish years ago and we were
Speaker 1: in very different places. Very you're in Arizona. I was
Speaker 1: a touring artist. Both of us don't do either one
Speaker 1: of those jobs anymore. And we met and man, what
Speaker 1: a crazy story. When we met. H ended up being
Speaker 1: not a fight but a huge argument, and not between us,
Speaker 1: but between the guys that worked for us really in
Speaker 1: a weird way.
Speaker 2: And I'll be when I look back on it, I
Speaker 2: remember I felt, I feel like, now I've said something
Speaker 2: to Tyler, because Tyler was in that conversation. You're on
Speaker 2: stage singing, and I remember saying something like like it
Speaker 2: was something I know smarter, like I don't remember exactly
Speaker 2: what I said, but I was more frustrated that I
Speaker 2: was having to deal with this because it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: I don't mind dealing with my own my own junk, right,
Speaker 2: it's somebody else's like, I've got a man like. Everything
Speaker 2: was fine and you had to say, you know, but
Speaker 2: there was drama exited a.
Speaker 1: Lot of drama to the day. And it doesn't even
Speaker 1: matter that the details, but the day that we met,
Speaker 1: there was major drama and we were two different people.
Speaker 1: So that's that's why this concept of would you go back,
Speaker 1: do you have regrets, would you have done things differently?
Speaker 1: I think that comes into play here, and I think
Speaker 1: that's why you're a great guest for this. You and
Speaker 1: I are very much on the same page today and
Speaker 1: we probably were in twenty fifteen. Also, we are just
Speaker 1: different people on the same page exactly.
Speaker 2: I found a video the other day of so I
Speaker 2: started a show that's still running today with a different host.
Speaker 2: It's called Country House Party, but it was our It
Speaker 2: was the show's one hundredth show, which that means it
Speaker 2: was once a week, so it was two years old
Speaker 2: and you were on it, and just the content while
Speaker 2: we were talking about it's not content. We would talk
Speaker 2: about now it's like, you know, taking shots and do
Speaker 2: you know, like how late did we stay up? Whatever
Speaker 2: it was. It was just watching it back, I was
Speaker 2: like a little cringey but also a little reflective. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was it's like, oh, man, yeah, we kind
Speaker 2: of looked the same.
Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, we resemble each other. It's weird. I look
Speaker 1: at those old videos and that's just not me. It's
Speaker 1: just someone that kind of resembles me. If we have time,
Speaker 1: let's go back and we'll give the details of that
Speaker 1: story that day, because people are probably not wondering what
Speaker 1: was the argument.
Speaker 2: And you can't look it up. It's not on the
Speaker 2: internet's blog.
Speaker 1: No one knows it. So we'll discuss this. We have time,
Speaker 1: we'll go We'll put this at the end of the podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you what we're talking about, why there was
Speaker 1: a big drama that day. I met at Man Okay,
Speaker 1: so eighteen years old. I was a senior year high school.
Speaker 1: I turned eighteen the fall of nineteen ninety eight, I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always easy to remember my age in the year
Speaker 1: because it's it's the same number. So ninety eight, I
Speaker 1: was eighteen and I was playing football in Dallas and
Speaker 1: graduated high school that next May and went on to
Speaker 1: A and M. So eighteen years old, I was playing football,
Speaker 1: graduating high school summer before college, went to A and M.
Speaker 1: Was in the Coura Cadets in the fall of me
Speaker 1: being eighteen, right before nineteen. So that's kind of the
Speaker 1: era we're discussing here. How about you, Oh, eighteen nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five? Okay, So I was always the year.
Speaker 2: So I graduated in ninety five. My birthdays in May,
Speaker 2: so it was always right around graduation the time, so
Speaker 2: it was May May of ninety five. I had already
Speaker 2: started in radio. I started in ninety four before I
Speaker 2: turned eighteen, just doing odds and ends at radio station.
Speaker 2: But the reason I wanted to get into radio was
Speaker 2: because I I was a drummer and I wanted to
Speaker 2: meet art I didn't know how else to meet artists
Speaker 2: other than moving to Nashville. It's funny, I just I
Speaker 2: just had a conversation with one of the guys from
Speaker 2: for King and Country, and I said, I was a
Speaker 2: really good Oklahoma drummer, And then I found out there's
Speaker 2: really good Nashville drummers, and that's way different than really
Speaker 2: good Oklahoma drummers, and so that my focus shifted and
Speaker 2: then into radio. But that's yeah. I was starting college
Speaker 2: at Oklahoma City University, actually had already had I think
Speaker 2: one semestery. And I started college while I was in
Speaker 2: high school too, because I knew what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2: I knew.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like we'll be able to answer similar
Speaker 1: in this what I'm about to say right now. And
Speaker 1: if you're listening and you're either interested in looking back
Speaker 1: on your life or if you are this age, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people probably are this age fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen, you and me both. I thought I had
Speaker 1: a lot figured out. I hadn't thought I had a
Speaker 1: lot going on. And the first thing I tell myself is, buddy,
Speaker 1: you hadn't even started yet, right, You have no idea.
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I tell myself. The guy that
Speaker 1: just thinks he's got it going on thinks he hasn't
Speaker 1: figured out. You look like a man, you're the stature
Speaker 1: of a man, but your brain is not. I'm not
Speaker 1: talking to eighteen year olds out there. I'm talking to
Speaker 1: my old self. See when I'm see how I did that?
Speaker 1: You said it, I was an idiot, and so my
Speaker 1: life hadn't even started yet. It was still building, and
Speaker 1: I hadn't started yet. I played music on the weekends,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't. I hadn't entered a place of any
Speaker 1: kind of regret at that point. I don't have any
Speaker 1: regrets when I look back on eighteen or younger, I
Speaker 1: haven't done anything yet that they would caused me to
Speaker 1: go that that mistake ended up being this same nothing yet.
Speaker 1: Not to say if anyone's listening has made it a
Speaker 1: mistake like that, not to say it can't be redeemed.
Speaker 1: But that's the first thing I say is I thought
Speaker 1: I had it figured out. I didn't. And I think
Speaker 1: the reason I start with that, because where I want
Speaker 1: to go with this is I didn't know the Lord.
Speaker 1: I thought I did, and so, yeah, go to youth
Speaker 1: group everywhere. Yeah, because there was also girls there. Of course,
Speaker 1: the pretty girls did the youth group. Once again, didn't
Speaker 1: really think about it then that that was the motivation.
Speaker 1: I see it clearly as I look back, It's like,
Speaker 1: why did I go on that weekend trip? Well, because
Speaker 1: so and so and so and so girls are there
Speaker 1: and other friends were there, too. It's a social event,
Speaker 1: youth group, young life, youth camps, even church itself. You know,
Speaker 1: it was was a social event for an eighteen year
Speaker 1: old and I didn't know the Lord, but I thought
Speaker 1: it did. That wasn't a problem then, but it soon
Speaker 1: became a huge problem. And of course not knowing the
Speaker 1: Lord is always a huge problem, but it hadn't manifested
Speaker 1: into the beast that it would become over the next
Speaker 1: fifteen years after eighteen fifteen to twenty. And that was
Speaker 1: a slow attrition as I got into the music business
Speaker 1: and as I started fighting for what I had and
Speaker 1: what I could achieve and went through a bunch of failure.
Speaker 1: As I went through failure, as that's really what paved
Speaker 1: the path in my cultural Christianity. Most people would be like, well,
Speaker 1: that's what paved the past, is success, right, Well that's
Speaker 1: not the point I'm trying to make. My point is
Speaker 1: when you fail and people go, oh man, how long
Speaker 1: is this music thing going to last? And you go
Speaker 1: then you dig deeper, and you fight harder, and you
Speaker 1: write more songs, and you play more clubs for no money,
Speaker 1: and you continue to scratch and claw for a slice
Speaker 1: of that American pie. And then when you finally start
Speaker 1: making something happen, people go, wow, this is you know,
Speaker 1: it must be nice overnight success. And then you just
Speaker 1: kind of growl deep down, you go, I did this.
Speaker 1: How dare you say? Overnight success? For ten years, from
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty eight, I've fought to have any kind
Speaker 1: of recognition, a slow attrition, a slow slow failures after
Speaker 1: slow failure, after tiny success, slow failure again, tiny success.
Speaker 1: And then then you look back and you start gradually
Speaker 1: you become conditioned to the idea of I did it,
Speaker 1: I did it, I did it. And then when you
Speaker 1: thought that idea that you thought you were a Christian
Speaker 1: slowly starts becoming secondary. You're not thinking about it at
Speaker 1: all because now all you're thinking is I'm my own God. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one says that, no one says it in that way,
Speaker 1: but that's surely how you act. Long time ago, I
Speaker 1: started grangersmith dot com. When I say a long time ago,
Speaker 1: I'm talking decades ago. Started grangersmith dot com for the
Speaker 1: purpose of mainly toward dates and you know, getting my
Speaker 1: music out there. And the last thing that was on
Speaker 1: my mind really was selling merch or much less. How
Speaker 1: in the world. Do you sell merch like practically? How
Speaker 1: does that work physically? How do people click on something
Speaker 1: and then end up buying something and it charges their
Speaker 1: credit card? Well, you know, fast forward all these years
Speaker 1: and now I have ye yee apparel. Literally, that's what
Speaker 1: we do from yeye dot com is sell apparel, and
Speaker 1: we do that by using Shopify. See. Shopify is the
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Speaker 1: of your business, whether it's from the launch your own
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Speaker 1: to if we just hit a whole bunch of order stage.
Speaker 1: Shopify is there to help you grow, whether you're selling
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Speaker 1: this is a good hoodie, or this is a good
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Speaker 2: What would you say that kept you moving through the failures?
Speaker 2: Because mine's a little different.
Speaker 1: That's why I am. I mean I answered that differently
Speaker 1: now today. Obviously it's the Holy Spirit today, but never
Speaker 1: would have said that back then. Know what that even meant?
Speaker 1: So it was maybe stubbornness is kind of maybe a
Speaker 1: way to define it. I was. I was dead set
Speaker 1: on proving people wrong. I never had a lot of
Speaker 1: talent in music. When I was doing the Opry's this
Speaker 1: is what these singing things, and you know, North Texas
Speaker 1: had a bunch of these operys on Saturday night and
Speaker 1: I would go and I played a lot of them,
Speaker 1: and people always liked me. I was always a likable artist,
Speaker 1: especially with the old people, because I'd wear my Starch's
Speaker 1: jeans and my belt buckle and they I was always
Speaker 1: very likable, and I sang likable songs by Haggard and
Speaker 1: George Strait, Alan Jackson. But I never was the guy
Speaker 1: that people cried or were wowed by with that they
Speaker 1: could hold the note for thirty seconds and just make
Speaker 1: people standing ovation, you're comfortable. Yeah, I never got a
Speaker 1: standing ovation. So I would enter contest all the time,
Speaker 1: and I was always like the third place guy that
Speaker 1: everyone was very happy with me getting third place, Like
Speaker 1: ah that I like Granger, the young Granger is he
Speaker 1: gets third place and what a great talent. But then,
Speaker 1: but then I was never the first or the first
Speaker 1: guy would be like, Wow, this guy is going to
Speaker 1: get a record deal. He's incredible. In fact, a lot
Speaker 1: of those guys did what's that one. Steve Hawley was
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Really, Steve Hawley, Holy Steve, Holy,
Speaker 1: good morning beautiful. Yes, he was the guy. LeAnn Rimes
Speaker 1: was another one the same era. That's cool, Leanne and
Speaker 1: Steve could just blow away an audience and they would
Speaker 1: just I mean hair blow back. Their voices were so strong,
Speaker 1: they had such incredible stage presence and standing ovations win
Speaker 1: every contest. I was never that guy, never did I
Speaker 1: ever was I ever first place in those type of deals.
Speaker 1: And as I as I started going through that the
Speaker 1: ten years after eighteen eighteen to twenty, everyone that I
Speaker 1: used to do those operas with started stopping singing. They
Speaker 1: would get married, they would get a job, they would
Speaker 1: have babies, and they started falling off. This guy's not
Speaker 1: doing it anymore, this girl's not doing anywhere. And I
Speaker 1: was the only one that just kept going, even past
Speaker 1: Steve Holey technically past Lee and Rhymes to some extent.
Speaker 1: I just kept going out of stubbornness. And as I
Speaker 1: kept going, and all these people that used to be
Speaker 1: around me were falling off, I was the only one standing.
Speaker 1: And so I was able to get success really just
Speaker 1: by a process of elimination. And I was just stubborn.
Speaker 1: I'd done it for a long time, and I was
Speaker 1: the guy that didn't have all the talent, but just
Speaker 1: kept going. And that is what built up the idea
Speaker 1: of my own personal sovereignty. The old you know I'm
Speaker 1: doing this. I'm stubborn, I'm still here. I will keep going.
Speaker 1: I will prove them wrong. And eventually that led to
Speaker 1: me being on top of things for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: It took ten fifteen years before I was number one
Speaker 1: in things and first and touring and first, and you
Speaker 1: know that took a long time. All of that is
Speaker 1: just to say I was building a personal sovereignty, is
Speaker 1: personal power over myself. So as I'm talking to my
Speaker 1: eighteen year old self, I'm like, hey, you're about to
Speaker 1: get into some dangerous stuff. Drugs, okay, that's dangerous, total
Speaker 1: promiscuous sex type stuff that could be dangerous. Getting into
Speaker 1: organized crime that could be dangerous. Creating your own personal sovereignty,
Speaker 1: your own god of yourself. That is death. That is
Speaker 1: death that is hard to recover from. Do How do
Speaker 1: I explain that to my eighteen year old self. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Part of the discussion, this is what I'll
Speaker 1: ask you to is part of this is it's the
Speaker 1: big conundrum of I can't tell my eighteen year old
Speaker 1: self that because if I don't go through what I did,
Speaker 1: I'm not here today looking in hindsight about it. Say
Speaker 1: I go to high school, go to college, go to seminary,
Speaker 1: like a lot of guys do. Right out of college,
Speaker 1: go to seminary, go into some pastoral assistant role in
Speaker 1: some local church, marry a little girl, you know, have
Speaker 1: some babies, live a live an a pastor life. That's
Speaker 1: great and there's nothing against that, and a lot of guys,
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends have done that. But I'm
Speaker 1: not who I am today. I don't have the zeal,
Speaker 1: I don't have the fire that I have that the
Speaker 1: Lord has given me through me being an idiot. So
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for anyone. Don't do that. Do the
Speaker 1: seminary right out of high school, out of college. That's
Speaker 1: way better. But I look at it like a game
Speaker 1: of Djingam and my life is all those blocks, all
Speaker 1: the mistakes, everything I did, all that stubbornness, those are blocks,
Speaker 1: and you take those out and my tower crashes. I'm
Speaker 1: not radically reborn. I'm not the guy that leaves country
Speaker 1: music for ministry all of those and I'm not the
Speaker 1: guy that loses river because of my own stubbornness. That's
Speaker 1: all of that falls, and I'm not who I am today.
Speaker 1: Is that how you feel at all? Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: What a little bit, But mine's almost the opposite. Yours
Speaker 2: was stubbornness through the failures, and it's man, you were
Speaker 2: bringing back some And we've never talked about this part.
Speaker 2: I think I've sent you one time a picture of
Speaker 2: promo picture me.
Speaker 1: I remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and everything you just talked about about going to
Speaker 2: all the operays, oh flash, I did all the same things.
Speaker 2: But you know what I wasn't good at is I
Speaker 2: wasn't good at pushing through failures because there were a
Speaker 2: lot of things that came really easy for me. I
Speaker 2: say a lot of things drumming plant. My dad was
Speaker 2: a singer, so I played for him, and I was
Speaker 2: around a lot of other really good drummers. So I
Speaker 2: learned over that period of time where you're very impressionable.
Speaker 2: I'm talking like five, six years old, seven years old
Speaker 2: sitting behind my dad's drummer, but then filling in and
Speaker 2: playing at eight years old and nine years old because
Speaker 2: I could hold a steady beat and I wasn't thrown
Speaker 2: off by other people. It just came naturally. And we're
Speaker 2: not talking about big stage, You're not talking about the
Speaker 2: grand Olafer. You're not talking about a stadium or anything
Speaker 2: like that. But I was for that.
Speaker 1: I was great.
Speaker 2: I was really good at a young age. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: it came easy. So I continued doing stuff that was easy.
Speaker 2: When I got into radio, I moved quickly in radio,
Speaker 2: I didn't move quickly. It's I could say this now,
Speaker 2: couldn't say it then. I'm not a good singer.
Speaker 1: The voice of an angel.
Speaker 2: But that's the people will go, well, you have you
Speaker 2: have a good voice. Imagine you sing well like no,
Speaker 2: I mean yes, I know when I'm flat or sharp,
Speaker 2: and I know if I'm not singing, you know, if
Speaker 2: it's too high for me, if I cry, you all
Speaker 2: that stuff. But I would do all the opryes and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and I when I would fail, I'll
Speaker 2: be like not doing that again, I'm out. And you
Speaker 2: know if I'm not saying that. If I'd pushed through that,
Speaker 2: I would have you know, done that or been you
Speaker 2: know somebody in the in the as a singer. But
Speaker 2: it was the other stuff that came easy, easier or
Speaker 2: much easier that you know I was. I got a
Speaker 2: scholarship to a liberal arts college, a great one in Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: and I'm not good at symphonic drumming. I'm not good
Speaker 2: at reading sheet music and playing MOREMBA or xylophone. I
Speaker 2: was like, eh, other stuff, I don't have to try
Speaker 2: as hard. Radio, I don't have to try as hard.
Speaker 2: I was, you know, at seventeen, I was, you know,
Speaker 2: rewracking carts and CDs and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: For other jocks.
Speaker 2: And by the time I was twenty, I had an
Speaker 2: afternoon show in Oklahoma City on a on the one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand what country station, like voice of an Angel?
Speaker 1: It stop that.
Speaker 2: And that's what's funny is that I don't think that
Speaker 2: I have a good voice, like I think that like, okay,
Speaker 2: if I do this, I can be better if I
Speaker 2: And so I think on the opposite side though, of that,
Speaker 2: of being eighteen and going through things, I didn't persevere
Speaker 2: through some of the hard stuff, which caught up with
Speaker 2: me later in life.
Speaker 1: I see what you mean. Opposite, Yeah, is the opposite? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember one time playing an opry in Mesquite, Texas
Speaker 1: and trying a couple of new songs new old songs
Speaker 1: from George Drake. Probably I don't remember which ones they were,
Speaker 1: meaning I didn't really prepare that much and went and
Speaker 1: I remember I went out there and on the second verse,
Speaker 1: I just blinked forgot it all, no no idea what
Speaker 1: it was. And the band is just kind of looping
Speaker 1: and they're back there like it's okay, Granger, you'll think
Speaker 1: of it. And I just the longer time went by,
Speaker 1: the more I could not remember it, and everyone's just
Speaker 1: staring at me, like they look at this idiot. So
Speaker 1: ended up just going right to the last chorus and
Speaker 1: just finishing the song, went out the side door. It
Speaker 1: was a field out there, and I just went out
Speaker 1: there and yelled at the moon, just screamed at the
Speaker 1: moon and got on my knees and put my face
Speaker 1: in the dirt, just ashamed, like if it was an
Speaker 1: old Testament, I would have been putting ashes on the Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, I mean, yeah, it was awful, and I yes,
Speaker 1: I remember sitting out there in the dirt, you know,
Speaker 1: in my starts genes, just going I will never be
Speaker 1: unprepared again, never. And and I remember someone they used
Speaker 1: to give me the vhs of it at the end
Speaker 1: of the night. Give me the vhs go home and
Speaker 1: watch it. They gave me the vhs. I destroyed it.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to just crushed it with a hammer,
Speaker 1: ripped all the I wish I had it, that'd be
Speaker 1: amazing to have it now. But that's how it was.
Speaker 2: I had the crushed up vhs or had the actual
Speaker 2: actual ghs.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I built over a decade
Speaker 1: of I'll never mess up again. I will push through,
Speaker 1: I will go back, I will redeem this night. I'll
Speaker 1: do it again. And I don't want to feel this
Speaker 1: feeling of defeat again.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to feel this and I will
Speaker 2: change it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will change it. Yeah. I did this
Speaker 1: to myself. This happened because of me, and I'll fix
Speaker 1: it because of me. So if you're eighteen right now
Speaker 1: and you're listening to this, it's like, what's the takeaway, Granger,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you exactly what the takeaway is. Actually, I
Speaker 1: told you I was going to bring this iPad here
Speaker 1: just in case, just in case I thought of something
Speaker 1: in the Bible, and I know exactly where to go.
Speaker 1: If I was going to say, hey, Granger, what should
Speaker 1: you understand? I would say, you need to understand above
Speaker 1: all else, young eighteen year old Granger, before you get
Speaker 1: into this world where you think you're fighting for your
Speaker 1: own sovereignty. You think you're developing your own talent. You
Speaker 1: think the crowds are coming because of you. You think
Speaker 1: you're sustaining crowds because of you. You think crowds are
Speaker 1: leaving because of a mistake you made. Do you think
Speaker 1: you have all this under control? You need to understand
Speaker 1: Psalm one that says blessed in the man as blessed
Speaker 1: is the man who walks not in the council of
Speaker 1: the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor
Speaker 1: sits in the seat of scoffers. But his delight is
Speaker 1: in the law of the Lord. And on his law
Speaker 1: he meditates day and night. He is like a tree
Speaker 1: planted by streams of water, that yields its fruit and
Speaker 1: its season, and it's leaf does not wither. In all
Speaker 1: that he does, he prospers the wicked or not so,
Speaker 1: for they are like shaft but the wind drives away. Therefore,
Speaker 1: the wicked will not stand in the judgment nor sinners
Speaker 1: and the congregation of the righteous. For the Lord knows
Speaker 1: the way of the righteous, but the way the wicked
Speaker 1: will perish. So I say to this to myself I
Speaker 1: don't care what you do. I don't care what you
Speaker 1: succeed in. I don't care what you fail in. I
Speaker 1: don't care what George Strait second verse songs you forget.
Speaker 1: If you stay close to the Lord, like a tree
Speaker 1: planted by streams of water, you will prosper. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the message to eighteen year olds now. That's the message
Speaker 1: to my kids now. And that's the message I would
Speaker 1: tell my old self. I don't care what you do, buddy,
Speaker 1: I don't care what talent you have. The Lord gave
Speaker 1: you all of it. If you stay close to him,
Speaker 1: you will prosper. Does that mean with money and wealth
Speaker 1: and fame. No? Maybe, but that's not when I mean
Speaker 1: at all. And that's not what this verse means at all.
Speaker 2: And what's a practical, every day something I can apply
Speaker 2: today as an eighteen year old or you you're talking
Speaker 2: to yourself, right, your eighteen year old self. What's a
Speaker 2: practical thing you can do to stay close to the Lord?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two or three. One. You need
Speaker 1: to be around other people that are the Lord. Yep,
Speaker 1: like you can't. You love wrestling. In fact, you have
Speaker 1: a podcast called wrestle Chat If anyone loves wrestling like
Speaker 1: ant Man, go look up wrestle Chat. It's a great podcast.
Speaker 1: When you love wrestling, you want you crave to be
Speaker 1: around other people people that love wrestling. It's just obvious.
Speaker 1: It's this obvious in anything in life. You love the Lord,
Speaker 1: you need to crave to be around other people that
Speaker 1: love the Lord. Can I add something to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other people older and same sex. So if you're
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old guy, find older guys that are
Speaker 2: close to the Lord, because they'll they can spot stuff
Speaker 2: much quicker in you than you can and yourself.
Speaker 1: That's good.
Speaker 2: That's leading you away from God. And that's something you know,
Speaker 2: looking back on mine raised by single mom for sisters
Speaker 2: and I, so there wasn't a lot of male influences.
Speaker 2: What we talked about the masculinity thing on the on
Speaker 2: the podcast last week, and when it kind of resonated
Speaker 2: with me and I, you know, probably some of those
Speaker 2: emails stood out a little bit more to me and
Speaker 2: it became that podcast was that man, if you would
Speaker 2: have if you'll surround yourself earlier with men that get
Speaker 2: go to the church, and wherever you go to church,
Speaker 2: go seek them out, be be be diligent in looking
Speaker 2: for those opportunities. Ask you know you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: be embarrassed by something that might be something that you
Speaker 2: should be embarrassed about. You know that you said, asked
Speaker 2: older gentleman to help mentor you, and they said, no,
Speaker 2: they're too busy. If that embarrasses you, but you're going
Speaker 2: to be embarrassed by a lot of other things that
Speaker 2: are much more embarrassing. Not that, but find those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys out, which is they're going to help
Speaker 1: you find to be around people like minded, people that
Speaker 1: love the Lord. Number two, if you want to hear
Speaker 1: the Lord, if you want to be close to the Lord,
Speaker 1: you need to go where he speaks, and he speaks
Speaker 1: through the Bible Yep, the living, breathing word of God.
Speaker 1: This will take someone. Will just only use someone for example,
Speaker 1: the law. David is writing here, but his delight is
Speaker 1: in the law of the Lord, and on this law
Speaker 1: he meditates day and night. That word law could be
Speaker 1: synonymous with word the word. So in the New Testament
Speaker 1: we see the word Jesus uses that a lot. He
Speaker 1: who keeps my word, if anyone loves me, he will
Speaker 1: keep my w synonymous with law, specifically talking about the
Speaker 1: Law of Moses, but it's really synonymous with the Word
Speaker 1: of God, the Law of God, the precepts of God,
Speaker 1: the testimonies of God. Being close to that which is
Speaker 1: the Bible. That is what we have. We have the Law,
Speaker 1: we have the Word, we have the precepts. We have that.
Speaker 1: So if you want to be close to the Lord,
Speaker 1: if you want to be like a tree planted by
Speaker 1: streams of water that yields its fruit and its season
Speaker 1: and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does,
Speaker 1: he prospers. If you want to be that guy, then
Speaker 1: you go close to him as he has revealed himself
Speaker 1: in the Bible. So you run as people and you
Speaker 1: go to where he speaks his Bible. In fact, you
Speaker 1: take care of those two things. I believe your prayer
Speaker 1: life is going to increase, no doubt. I believe you're
Speaker 1: going to join a local church, because that's the inevitable
Speaker 1: place where you will go to be around God's people,
Speaker 1: is the church, which is the bride of Christ. So
Speaker 1: I believe you'll join a local church to be around
Speaker 1: the people and to read the Word. It all comes
Speaker 1: together in those three aspects. You know.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great challenge to if you are
Speaker 2: not an eighteen year old and you're somebody who is,
Speaker 2: you know, very involved in their church and is seeking
Speaker 2: for ways to be to give back. Seek those kids
Speaker 2: that are getting ready to graduate because may and stay
Speaker 2: plugged in with them as they leave, because this is
Speaker 2: the time they fall away. This is the time that
Speaker 2: they leave and go start exploring. They're adults now. I
Speaker 2: have a twenty one year old daughter, and this is
Speaker 2: the time that they you know, that they make a
Speaker 2: decision about things that do affect in real world the rest.
Speaker 1: Of their life. Yeah, you know. And so I mean
Speaker 1: that's it. Granger, the eighteen year old Anthony, the eighteen
Speaker 1: year old that that was your name back then, not
Speaker 1: Am Anthony has the full name. Yeah, very quickly it
Speaker 1: became a man. Be the guy of Psalm one. Now
Speaker 1: how you do that. There's a lot of ways to
Speaker 1: do that. We've named a few, But be that guy Granger.
Speaker 1: Then go off and do your music, do you thing,
Speaker 1: make your mistakes, make your whatever, but don't ever get
Speaker 1: away from being that guy. Now I have to say
Speaker 1: it's a caveat again. I'll say it again. That's impossible
Speaker 1: to tell myself that, because if I tell myself that,
Speaker 1: then I'm not who I am today. Yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: but hypothetically, mainly just speaking to people listening, I think
Speaker 1: we have a few minutes left. We should we should
Speaker 1: tell the story of what happened the progress a day
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. So the day that I the day I
Speaker 1: meet aunt man, we're going coming in to do a
Speaker 1: festival that you put on a radio show.
Speaker 2: A barbecue festival. What was that called Great American Barbecue
Speaker 2: and Beer Fest. It's no longer going on, okay, so
Speaker 2: and this wasn't the last show.
Speaker 1: So just what happens in radio, this is the game
Speaker 1: that's played, is that we get asked to do shows.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get paid, sometimes we don't, but we do
Speaker 1: it because it's usually a favor for the station, hoping
Speaker 1: that in return they'll either get to know you and
Speaker 1: like you more and then ultimately that they play your song. So,
Speaker 1: as a new artist, you're doing all these barbecue festivals
Speaker 1: all across the country. So did you quick quickly I guess,
Speaker 1: did you find me specifically or did you did the
Speaker 1: label pitch me? Or how did there.
Speaker 2: I specifically for you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was we were doing. It was on the Verge,
Speaker 2: was clicking on the Verge. I don't want to get
Speaker 2: into all the details. On the Verge was the it's
Speaker 2: kind of like the the overarching we're all going to
Speaker 2: get behind this one song and make it a hit.
Speaker 2: If you play a song, it doesn't look at the
Speaker 2: song makarena. Yeah, the song is not a hit, but
Speaker 2: it was played so much it became a hit. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: well thank you for that, but so is everybody get
Speaker 2: We're going to get behind this song. We got behind
Speaker 2: Granger's back road song. It was your first release.
Speaker 1: On a Mister Lay and that's important. It was our
Speaker 1: first release. This is the first round of these type
Speaker 1: of events. Yeah, we had been playing. We had been
Speaker 1: in this for ten years before that at a minor
Speaker 1: league level. But it was very evident.
Speaker 2: It was very evident. A lot of things were clicking
Speaker 2: for you at that time. The song was great. It
Speaker 2: was an on the Verge for our company. Earl Dibbles
Speaker 2: Junior was on clicking on.
Speaker 1: All company that I now work for as a radio host,
Speaker 1: which is so sacronic it is.
Speaker 2: And yeah, have we played it on the Verge yet?
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've talked about that on the show,
Speaker 2: but yeah, that's I mean, it was world's collided at
Speaker 2: a great time.
Speaker 1: So that's the scene set. What had happened years before this,
Speaker 1: we were kind of conditioned to playing these just hole
Speaker 1: in the wall clubs, horrible places, and festivals that were
Speaker 1: also hole in the wall festivals. You know, Mom and
Speaker 1: pop won off, put on, put on some one time
Speaker 1: festival that went out of business the next year, and
Speaker 1: it was horrible. And what would happened was, time after time,
Speaker 1: we've are these these places, these barbecue festivals and ames
Speaker 1: Iowa or whatever, and they would get either the local
Speaker 1: DJ from the internet radio station or the one of
Speaker 1: the sponsors or the owner of the festival or club
Speaker 1: who was drunk to introduce us. And so they'd get
Speaker 1: out there and they go, hell, ladies and gentlemen, here's
Speaker 1: here's Earl Dribbles Granger. Welcome to the stage. And we
Speaker 1: would be horrified. We'd be like, oh, and we we
Speaker 1: wanted to be as professional as possible, we wanted to
Speaker 1: have a good intro, and and this these guys would
Speaker 1: ruin it every night. So over the course of time,
Speaker 1: we made this rule like they can never introduce us,
Speaker 1: don't We'll just do our own introduction. So Chris and
Speaker 1: Blake were doing it, right, Chris, Lee and Blakes. It
Speaker 1: was just Chris think. So Chris, we said, hey, Chris,
Speaker 1: you get up and just you introduce us, so you
Speaker 1: know what to say, and then tell the radio station
Speaker 1: they can't do it, which changed later, but that's who
Speaker 1: we were going into this.
Speaker 2: You've been doing that for a year, two years, three years, right, yes,
Speaker 2: with Chris doing the intro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than that. Yeah. And so going into a
Speaker 1: big radio station in a big city, this is new
Speaker 1: for us. And so me and Tyler out of the loop.
Speaker 1: Our machine is working like it always does, just a
Speaker 1: well oiled machine just does what it does. It says
Speaker 1: what it says to the people. And one of the
Speaker 1: reactions is we do our own intro. And somehow that
Speaker 1: was translated to your team and you guys, I don't
Speaker 1: know how that went down, but we do our own intro.
Speaker 2: Well on our side, what we get is we get
Speaker 2: either a hard intro or soft.
Speaker 1: Intro, yes, which is what we did later in life
Speaker 1: as we learned that lingo.
Speaker 2: So what the record label guy told me was that Hey,
Speaker 2: this is a soft intro, which typically for us means
Speaker 2: it's a video intro, like you have this big production
Speaker 2: that happens and it leads into the production the first song.
Speaker 1: And stuff like. That's what typical. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: people what that means. A hard intro means the guy says,
Speaker 1: welcome to stage, Granger Smith. The band plays, the soft
Speaker 1: intro is welcome in just a few more minutes, Granger Smith,
Speaker 1: and then the lights go down, maybe a video intro plays,
Speaker 1: or maybe a one more DJ song. But most of
Speaker 1: y'all have that have seen me in concert are used
Speaker 1: to the soft intro.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, right, yeah, but that's what that was
Speaker 2: the word we got, so I related to our Morning
Speaker 2: show that it's soft intro. So when you go back
Speaker 2: up X y Z, you know, thank all the sponsors again,
Speaker 2: and don't you know, basically, the last thing you need
Speaker 2: to say is guys, get ready, Granger Smith's coming up next.
Speaker 2: That's the basic and that's what they were told, and
Speaker 2: that's what they did. And then in their eyes, the
Speaker 2: Morning Show's eyes, somebody else got up and said, hey,
Speaker 2: you all ready to go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a eee.
Speaker 2: The crowd knows like, and so while that's happening, my
Speaker 2: Morning show looks at me and looks at the stage
Speaker 2: and goes, I thought this was a soft intro. That
Speaker 2: guy's doing a hard intro. And they left.
Speaker 1: So we took the glory away from the Morning show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't totally blame them, because this was something that
Speaker 1: just that's just bad ethics. That's bad concert ethics that
Speaker 1: we didn't know. And in the Morning Show, I now,
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and we've now, you know, years,
Speaker 1: this has been over a decade ago almost, but in
Speaker 1: his eyes, we are directly we know what we're doing,
Speaker 1: and we're doing it on purpose in his face.
Speaker 2: Tell him a soft intro so we can do what.
Speaker 1: We so we could do because he's not good enough.
Speaker 1: What we didn't know that that was even a thing,
Speaker 1: and so we didn't even see that going down. So
Speaker 1: he goes to Twitter and he blasts me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's like three in a row and everyone joined in,
Speaker 1: and what he's saying is things like this new guy,
Speaker 1: this new artist here, he is brand new. He thinks
Speaker 1: he's hot stuff. All these new artists of these ego problems,
Speaker 1: you know, and people all in the radiosphere that see
Speaker 1: it on Twitter are like, oh wow, I don't know
Speaker 1: this Grangersmith guy, but he sounds like a punk.
Speaker 2: He's a jerk, he's The best line though, was from
Speaker 2: him from Matt was, who's the morning show guy? He
Speaker 2: was that it seems that you don't know. I'm still paraphrasing,
Speaker 2: but the line is you don't know where your bread
Speaker 2: is buttered. It's the best line. Was like, that's what
Speaker 2: I remember from it was buttering of the bread. That
Speaker 2: that really set it over the edge.
Speaker 1: So all this is going down while I'm playing the show.
Speaker 1: I don't even know. This is no clue, no clue.
Speaker 1: Tyler sees it. I guess on Twitter and it goes
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: No, I actually I had I started kind of it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're talking three quarters of the way through
Speaker 2: the show where I really know anything. So and I'm
Speaker 2: kind of going to beat the crowd. I'm gonna roll out.
Speaker 2: And so I go, and I'm in my car and
Speaker 2: I see stuff on my phone. So I open it
Speaker 2: up and I'm like, and I go, and I opened
Speaker 2: my door back up and get out of my car
Speaker 2: and shut it and text the record rep and go Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go, let's talk, and and uh, hey can you
Speaker 2: meet me here? And so the record rep who's my relationship?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: And Tyler?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who that that's my first time meeting Tyler. Ever is
Speaker 2: this is this this whole ordeal? And like I said,
Speaker 2: I remember saying something smarter like just because I'm tired,
Speaker 2: and it's it's Arizona and it's you know, even in March,
Speaker 2: we're talking like ninety eight degrees, you know, one hundred
Speaker 2: degrees you know, close to that anyway, and it's hot,
Speaker 2: it's barbecue, been out there all day long, and I
Speaker 2: got to deal with this mess from a guy who's
Speaker 2: in bed sleeping already, you know, because he's gonna get
Speaker 2: up the next day.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was our I'm sorry, first time.
Speaker 1: That's how we met. Obviously we ever, everything is good,
Speaker 1: all already is involved, except for the record rep. Who's
Speaker 1: you know? That was a different story. That's that's another podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but all of that all that to say, most most
Speaker 1: of y'all know, you know a man and how close
Speaker 1: we work together worldwide and different shows we do together,
Speaker 1: and so that was our beginning. So buddy, thank you
Speaker 1: for being on this podcast. Thanks for helping us wrestling
Speaker 1: with a really interesting question, what I tell my eighteen
Speaker 1: yar him self? Yeah, see y'all next week. Thanks for
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