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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are

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Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? All right, you guys, I have the

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Speaker 1: incredible Mark bursting. Did I do all right?

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Speaker 2: Nailed that?

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Speaker 1: I really could tell, I really could tell. This is

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Speaker 1: the thing. If you look at how your name is spelled,

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Speaker 1: it is confusing, but if you just think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of valid.

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Speaker 1: Right you look at them short spear, don't look at them,

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Speaker 1: just think about how it sounds. Right. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I did, Hannah, and I great job. Thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, so you all. I'm sure know who Mark

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Speaker 1: is for many reasons, but our reason that we have

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Speaker 1: him today is that he was in an incredible episode

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Speaker 1: called They Shoot Single People, Don't They filmed in in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh my god, looking at yourself, I mean this

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Speaker 2: must happen to every guest on your show. But looking

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Speaker 2: at yourself at that time, I mean, on the one hand, yes,

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Speaker 2: so young and god the skin is young and vibrant

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Speaker 2: and unaffected by cracks of life and age. But I'm

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Speaker 2: also quite thick and meat heady to myself.

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Speaker 1: Oh you look adorably, very handsome, but kind of real,

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Speaker 2: By the way, another weird thing that my wife and

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Speaker 2: I both noticed watching it last night. I have an

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Speaker 2: incredibly hairy chest. It's gone. I don't have that hair.

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Speaker 2: Can I show you now? Yes, I'm gonna why not?

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Speaker 2: Why can't.

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Speaker 3: So much less hairy then in the show?

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Speaker 2: Like a gorilla?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, so you didn't.

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Speaker 2: It's a fascinating thing about boy. And there's a chance

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Speaker 2: we would do a podcast for the medical show that

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Speaker 2: I did called Royal Pain. Yes, so in that we

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Speaker 2: can explore where my ear went. Fantastic, It'll be like

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Speaker 2: a crossover episode of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to listen to that. So were you aware

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Speaker 1: previous to watching rewatching this old episode that that there

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Speaker 2: Was I aware that I would see how hairy I was?

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Speaker 2: Or you'd like you forgot? I've had this phantom feeling like, wait,

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Speaker 2: I think it's much better up there than it used

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Speaker 2: to be. And this was confirmation.

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Speaker 1: Really funny, really funny. I like that a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it is really funny the things that you notice when

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Speaker 1: you look at your younger self.

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Speaker 2: You know, friend, there were so many things about the episode.

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Speaker 2: So I want you to guide me but like, believe me,

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Speaker 2: I have things to say.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can't wait. I'm sure I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of things to say to you. I have to say.

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Speaker 1: My overall gist of rewatching the show is that it's

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Speaker 1: all much much better than I remember.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking that it took us a long time

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Speaker 1: I'm like, no, no, it's fantastic. Like sometimes there's funny

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Speaker 1: production things, like when this episode starts and it has

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is sweet, so sweet.

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Speaker 1: It's so not you know, HD blah blah for a

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Speaker 1: whatever the heck blah blah blah. No, it's adorable.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: And then there's some really funny camera anglis. This episode,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is directed by John David Coles, who.

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Speaker 2: I've worked with on other things, many other things. He

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Speaker 2: Tucci about brain surgeons. He played the like bad bedside

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Speaker 2: show created by Peter Aco. Okay, and in dearra Varma,

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Speaker 1: I missed the show. I want to look at us.

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Speaker 1: I love you and Stanley too.

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Speaker 2: She Oh, I loved him. He was amazing.

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Speaker 2: He had us all to his house in upstate New

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Speaker 1: Oh, how incredible. So I have to ask you because

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Speaker 1: you just reminded me. Do you remember and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, my best friend Lisa, her mom Dorothy Cornblith not

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Speaker 2: To know that she's a dear friend of our family.

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Speaker 1: Right, So Lisa, I was out there because at that time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you know somebody the house George from this

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Speaker 1: At least it would come out. And we had no

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, I mooch off my parents who rent a

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Speaker 2: one in Sagaponic. Oh, fantastic. It's the gangs all there

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Speaker 2: for like some of July and August fun. It'll be great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we work we go out as well. Still amazing,

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Speaker 1: ask my actor friends to come on, which is so exciting.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about your life when you got this part.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I it was nineteen ninety nine, I

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Speaker 1: I have a story also, I can tell you, yes,

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Speaker 2: So I got some sitcoms when I first came out

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Speaker 2: But which is leading into my Sex and the City store,

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. It was not a

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Speaker 1: it's very misleading and no one's explaining anything. It's just

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Speaker 2: So how would you go about educating young men? Right?

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Speaker 2: When the guy keeps mentioning we we we're gonna go.

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Speaker 1: He was so lovely. Samantha just breaks your heart sitting

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Speaker 2: She has a phone.

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Speaker 1: Now she has no social media.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I think I need to get you

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Speaker 1: I don't know, love her, good for her, good for her. Okay,

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Speaker 2: In some way. We're doing intimacy stout, intimacy coordinators. Definitely

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Speaker 2: Oh make no? I was, but like I really.

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Speaker 2: It's very very impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's very impressive. But the rest of us were

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Speaker 1: I know? I know you. I wasn't even really aware.

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Speaker 1: And can I tell you that I literally remember nothing terrible?

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Speaker 1: Now he was like the least literally you're looking actor

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Speaker 2: Well, that you've given me a perfect segue to the

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, Bradley, are you kids?

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Speaker 2: And he is so great? Yeah, he's Bradley Cooper.

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Speaker 2: I remember it's so funny that he was in this

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Speaker 2: Right. The shift is so hard that it was my

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Speaker 1: but it worked. It worked, and who cares?

440
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: It worked?

441
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: Interesting?

442
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 2: Would you have we have to believe other than maybe

443
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: silver Lining's playbook or something that. Yeah, that was the

444
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 2: last time we're going to see Bradley Cooper rejected like

445
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: he is.

446
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: Well, look, he is not rejected in a casual manner.

447
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 1: He's rejected because she's having this large existential crisis based

448
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: on this magazine cover.

449
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: She's saying, like exclamation point, I am single, exactly exclamation point,

450
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: and I choose to be and I don't need men

451
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: to right.

452
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: And the thing that I loved about Bradley because I

453
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: only have the vaguest memory. I don't think I ever

454
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: ran into him or whatever it was the middle of

455
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: the I I'm sure I wasn't there, and I just

456
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: remember that he was there and that I would talk

457
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: to him intermittently as his success, you know, happened like

458
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 1: oh my god, you know when I would see him,

459
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: but I didn't really remember the gist of the part,

460
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: and then it was in this particular episode. So I

461
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: think he makes a couple of really fascinating choices, even

462
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: in his very new be self right, And one of

463
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: them is when so he goes to get cigarettes. Part

464
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: of why she chooses him is that he's he's he's

465
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't even know if she says good looking, he's single, heterosexual,

466
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: and he smokes. That's why she goes out of the

467
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: bar with him, which I think is very finally the

468
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: reason Bradley Cooper.

469
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: I guess.

470
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: I mean there's some other reasons. Yeah, there's other reasons,

471
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: but in the young Bradley Cooper's self, I could see it,

472
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: and that's where the character carry is at. Right, And

473
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 1: so Stanford is left saying everyone here is homosexual even

474
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 1: though there's two heterosexual people like fully make it out

475
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: behind her, but whatever, and so then then Bradley, yeah,

476
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: I was like those anyway. Ben Bradley walks in and

477
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, why not, right, And he's got a cigarette,

478
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: so she's like yay hey, and he's you know, dreamy.

479
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: So then they leave there in the Porsche. He gets

480
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: out to get the smokes and of course sees this

481
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: magazine where she does not look the best of herself,

482
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: and it says, uh, is it single and fabulous? Question mark? Right,

483
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: that's the point rather than single and fabulous? With that

484
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: explamation boy which she.

485
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 2: On how she looks and weather or that she's.

486
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: Been up all night. It's all my fault. I made

487
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: her have more drinks. But we'll get to that in

488
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: a second. So then he comes he comes back, and

489
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: the window is up of the of the convertible Porsche,

490
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: and he takes the magazine and puts it right in

491
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: her face, and like a kid, says, is that you?

492
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: It's the most interesting choice because he really could have

493
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: gone negative there, you know, but he doesn't. He's like,

494
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: is that you? It's not necessarily like he thinks it's horrible. Right,

495
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: it's just really in her face, you know what I'm

496
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,719
Speaker 1: saying that like confronting this perception of being single, you know,

497
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: and maybe that's bad. And we've been talking about it

498
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: the whole episode, right, And that's when she says, if

499
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: I go home with him, I am going home with

500
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: him to prove exclamation mark, but I will actually be

501
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 1: proving question mark, right, and I'm not going to do that.

502
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: And then he goes, I'm not going to let you out,

503
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: which he also says in the most adorable way, which

504
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: could also have been kind of sinister, right, right, it

505
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: was a little sinister, but his choice there was super interesting.

506
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't go sexy at all. He just goes like,

507
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I'm not going to let you out. Well, he's very charming, okay,

508
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: and he seems like he might be playing a little drunk,

509
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: like when he gets out of the car in his

510
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: leather pants, he looks a little drunk, you know, like

511
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: high on the night. Whatever.

512
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

513
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: It's all very fascinating, and I thought we could have

514
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: had a whole episode of them, you know what I mean.

515
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: But I am also that was it. It wasn't even

516
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: a whole episode right, But I also really would have

517
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: loved a whole episode of you and the other oh

518
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 1: oh my god. And that's what I started saying too earlier,

519
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: is that some of the guys, especially first season, you're

520
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: just like ow ick ew. Part of it is the storyline,

521
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: but part of it is just like you can't see

522
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: the positive and what I loved about what you did,

523
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know if this was conscious, and I'm

524
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: so curious how you felt. You're just adorably like wanting

525
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: to please and it's almost like like what he like

526
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: the look on your face when she tells you that

527
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: all these other women must have been faking it, and

528
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: you're just like really trying to think through, Oh my god,

529
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: were they were they faking it? With it like it's

530
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: so adorable?

531
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 2: Oh thank you? Well, I just I just took what

532
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 2: was written very seriously and that this is this guy's

533
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: a doctor and if he's going to if his skill

534
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: set is lacking, he is going to learn, just like

535
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: he did with medicine. Sure, but the fun of it

536
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: for me was knowing that she's faking it as an actor, Yeah,

537
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: that it's only held in starker relief by a guy

538
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: who thinks he's There was one ad lib that I'm.

539
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was proud of tell us.

540
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 2: At the very last moment of the episode, you know,

541
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: I guess Samantha is a Samantha Miranda, Carrie is saying

542
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: in voiceover, and not much was happening uptown, and Carrie's

543
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: giving the performance of her I.

544
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Mean, uh, Miranda, Miranda's giving.

545
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: The performance of her life. And I'm behind whatever.

546
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny for camera.

547
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, oh oh yeah. And then at

548
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: my moment of climax, I yell, I'm a manble just

549
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: stepping into how pathetic he is.

550
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: That's so cute because funny in his mind he thinks

551
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: he just nailed it totally. But that's what's so adorable.

552
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: And she's so not she's so funny on her side

553
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: because she's in front of him. You can't see your face.

554
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: It's very funny. I thought that that John did a

555
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: great directing job of this episode.

556
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: He's a great director, like a real stalwart.

557
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Amazing and he does some fun like he do. You

558
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 1: remember in the beginning when we're out dancing, which we'll

559
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: talk about in a second, because I'm not in order

560
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: and he does these funny camera things. He then comes

561
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 1: back later on when I don't know if I take

562
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: a drug or something, meaning Charlotte, but I have this

563
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: trippy dancing. I don't know if we just called him

564
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: when we had dancing or whatever, it seems like we did.

565
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: And I have this trippy dancing that I do. But

566
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: maybe next season. And I can't remember what leads to this,

567
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: but something under the lane.

568
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: Of sex and City was no, no, no.

569
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't that. It was Charlotte being uptight and then

570
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: Charlotte in some way having an alternate experience.

571
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: Carry back and like you're the one saying, let's come on.

572
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: We never with the drinking, yeah, I know, which is

573
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: very unusual, too, very unusual. And I remember all that.

574
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about that a second, because I

575
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: want to tell you my story that I remember. Okay,

576
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: so you come, it's your first day. Now, I don't know,

577
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: did you go to a readthrough or anything like that?

578
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Do you remember?

579
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Okay?

580
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I know that we always tried to have read throughs,

581
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 1: but at a certain point it got really hard with

582
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 1: the you know, the schedule and then the new people

583
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, and whether you're free or not free. So

584
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: some people remember the read throughs like vividly like a theater.

585
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: It's almost like a theater level read through because Michael

586
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: Patrick especially looks at it like that, you know, like

587
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: an old school read through, right, where like if that

588
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: joke doesn't land in the read through, that joke gets cut,

589
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: which I'm continually trying to explain to my potent children,

590
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: like please act in the read through because they're you know, young,

591
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: and they would like to be very real and I'm like,

592
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: your jokes are going to get cut, so you need

593
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: to do it up right, okay, smart? Yeah, and they

594
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: look at me like I'm insane.

595
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: It's a great it's a great thank you advice because

596
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: it's like Hollywood, you're always selling always, like gotta always

597
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: be in a pitch, in a development meeting, whatever it is, like,

598
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: don't let it sag because they'll just go, you know what,

599
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: I've lost all enthusias.

600
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just think the young people idea, right,

601
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they know this, you know, And I

602
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: mean they are young, so yeah, I mean, and I

603
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: am there.

604
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: They're paid, so they.

605
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: Are getting paid. But I just want their stuff to stay,

606
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, too, just for self selfish reasons. I want

607
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: them to have good stuff. Anyway. Sometimes maybe they listen occasionally,

608
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. But anyway, so you did never read through.

609
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: So I think that was your first day. And the

610
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: three of us are in the trailer, and in the

611
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: trailer what we would do is we would run our

612
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: lines because Michael Patrick expected us to have our lines perfect.

613
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah perfect. And on this particular day I

614
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: remember him, we were, you know, going around that one

615
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: section with the fence and I'm stretching or whatever, and

616
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: I had some line. I don't remember exactly what the

617
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: line was. I should have paid more attention whenever you watch,

618
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: but it's like something something something something something something. And

619
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: I flipped two words and he comes, like, you know,

620
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: with some energy over to me, like don't flip those words.

621
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: And I'm like, did I flip the words? He's like,

622
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: it's not funny that way. I'm like, okay, Michael, okay,

623
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: all right, we're.

624
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: Really gonna I mean, look, the guy's brilliant, no Joe,

625
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: and he gets comedy and he comes from like sitcoms

626
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: and like bam bam bamb WHI it's all about this.

627
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: So I get that. Yeah, And there's also some situations

628
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: where there's room to have.

629
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Fun and he's more relaxed now. But I mean we

630
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: never add love. Like everyone's like, were you guys out

631
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: of living? We're like, no, we're still not ad living okay,

632
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: But but that's what I remember about that day from

633
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: him and then from you. We're in the trailer, we're

634
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: running our lines, can make them perfect, right and snippy snappy,

635
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: snippy snappy, and you come in, you know, later, because

636
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: obviously we come in early to get ready and we're

637
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: all in the like you know, amped up mode of

638
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: like pre pre scene, right, and you say something. We

639
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: say like, hey, you know, Mark, do you want to

640
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: run some lines? And you're like, oh, I don't really

641
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: know them? And we're like, no, yeah something You're like

642
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, I'm one hundred percent something like that.

643
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Not not like totally. We were very scared to me. Look,

644
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: it could have been, and I think about this now,

645
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: it could have been, because like it's a lot to

646
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: walk in, you know, to another show, another you know,

647
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: group of people's show.

648
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: But it's so funny. It's so great to hear this

649
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: story because I am someone who now is so prepared.

650
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 2: I know my lines. I on I Believe Royal Pains

651
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: with medical terminology for eight years. I had it down

652
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: and I pride myself on that, and I get a

653
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: little disappointed when people don't because it's just like I

654
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: even was on Instagram today and Tom Hanks was giving

655
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: some advice about like show up on time, which means

656
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: a little early, know your lines, and then give that

657
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: extra perspective that only you can add to it. That's

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: nice and like it's not much more complicated than that.

659
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: I think that's well put. I think that's really I mean,

660
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: this is nineteen ninety nine, right, so whatever was going

661
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: on with you whatever. But also so what happened was

662
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: and this is the part that I remember the best.

663
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: So we were kind of like we were at that point.

664
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that I felt that we

665
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: were hit, but we were definitely a group like we

666
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: were in it, you know what I'm saying. And we

667
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: were working all night, working.

668
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: Around in the streets of New York. Was different for

669
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: you guys than just a bunch of girls.

670
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were. We were feeling that and we were

671
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if we felt the sh but we

672
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: felt like we felt like we had to really work hard,

673
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like we were like

674
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: because we had to film and film and film and

675
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: all night long and getting those heels and look great.

676
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Like we were we

677
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: were in it, and we were like, but you.

678
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: Were the Beatles of New York at the time.

679
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: We didn't feel like it, but maybe we were. I

680
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know, you, I don't know. I don't know. We

681
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: felt like it. So let's say the rest of.

682
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: The story like the Sopranos.

683
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: But it was cool and oh sure we were made.

684
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: Every girl was obsessed and every guy was away.

685
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: Which is nice. I don't know that we were aware

686
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: of that fully at that point. I feel like third

687
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: season is when that clicked for us, got it because

688
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: we got nominated for an Emmy, which we never, never,

689
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: never thought would happen. And that was when we were like,

690
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: people are watching because no one ever talked about numbers

691
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: at HBO, right knowing it wasn't like beingond a network

692
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: show where Monday morning you would hear, you know what

693
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: the overnights were, whatever the heck? You do know what

694
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, But no, it wasn't like that. So

695
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: anyway you come in, some version of this conversation happens

696
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: where we were like, oh, and then you said something.

697
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: In my mind, maybe I'm wrong, But this is the

698
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: reason that I remember this is because it was kind

699
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: of a watershed moment for me, and we had a

700
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: conversation amongst ourselves about it later that we had to

701
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: be more considerate about our guest stars, especially the men folk,

702
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: because you guys are coming in as the guest stars

703
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 1: kind of like as the girls, you know, which is

704
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: not normal back then, especially right right, Like it wasn't

705
00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: like a regulation.

706
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: As the girls who traditionally been visiting the more male dominated.

707
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: Shows the girl time role. Yeah, like the one one

708
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: episode girlfriend roll right for sure, but it was flipped.

709
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: So you come in, We're like, you want to run

710
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: some Liz, and you're like, oh, I don't know if

711
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm a hundred, which could have just been you also like,

712
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure all of us were.

713
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: I like hearing it, and I was. I was relaxed

714
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: at one time in my life about being prepared and not.

715
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: So then you say something like, I mean, are we

716
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: going to have to do it exactly like the script?

717
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: And we were like did.

718
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Something like that, right, and all of us were just like, ah, yes,

719
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: And then it seemed like maybe we had created a

720
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: bit of tension in the trailer, Jered. I mean that's

721
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: how I felt with me, Yeah, that we hadn't maybe

722
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: been the nicest I'm.

723
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, sure, I felt you.

724
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 1: Just seemed possibly quiet, you know, not like stand offish.

725
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: But and also you weren't over with us physically in

726
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: the scene. You were running past us, right, yes, So

727
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: it's not like we got to kind of bond with you.

728
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: We didn't. You were just like running past and we

729
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: all look at you like, well, who's that? You know, Miranda,

730
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, oh, who's that? Rather

731
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: than us being in the scene with you.

732
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 2: I remember having the best time.

733
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh good.

734
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm on the reservoir where I trained free all and

735
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: wrestling seasons as a high school kid in New York,

736
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 2: and I ran into people I knew, Like, as I'm

737
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: waiting around on the side of the reservoir, friends running

738
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: said Hi. It was just like it was so much

739
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: more casual than I had imagined in my head, Like

740
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 2: this is just oh, I'm just shooting sex in the

741
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: city and there's some cameras and these guys are nice.

742
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: It was intimidating because it wasn't as like as legendary

743
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: as it would become good. It was still new. But

744
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: I just on something as cool is that makes you

745
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: think you're cool for second?

746
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: I mean, look, especially when we're all young like that,

747
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you definitely feel you know, you're looking for validation,

748
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: like yes, I am going to be able to do

749
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: this career.

750
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 2: I mean yes for sure.

751
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah good. I'm so relieved that you didn't remember us.

752
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: Mean, I'm such a pleaser on a set. Yeah, And

753
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: so to hear like I feel like the way your

754
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: story is painting me is like it's getting give them.

755
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't go that far. I just felt

756
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: like I just felt like you were because you know,

757
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I had a friend too, I mean I had numerous

758
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: actors actor friends more here in LA and I remember

759
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: we'd done the first season and I was just so

760
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: devoted to the show, right. I was just so like,

761
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: we're going to keep going. It's going to be amazing.

762
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: And luckily I was right. And I remember this guy

763
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: was like, well, you're not gonna watch it, are you?

764
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I can't wait. I'm just

765
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: waiting for them to send the VHR, you know, tape

766
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: bjs whatever it was. And he was like, no, no,

767
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: you don't watch your television. You know, you just make

768
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: the television for a check. You don't watch your television.

769
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no, who said this.

770
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say. Okay, he would know if

771
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: he's listening, but he's probably not right. But it was

772
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: an actor, okay. And I remember just thinking like, well,

773
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: that's not what we're doing, like we care.

774
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 2: You know. I watch every episode of stuff I'm in, right,

775
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean there may be things that I missed because

776
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: it was just a small part or something I didn't

777
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: wasn't excited about. Yes, I don't know, but like always, yes.

778
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I agree, But I also think there's

779
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: just different types of actors. And some people have a

780
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: hard time watching themselves. Like Sarah Jessica. It doesn't mean

781
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't care, it means she cares too much. It's

782
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: hard for her to watch because she judges herself. She

783
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: can't get over judging herself.

784
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, watch for me. It's like it takes three viewings

785
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: to actually watch it with any objectivity whatsoever.

786
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: Impressive.

787
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: Like the first time, you're just watching yourself, like they

788
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: keep what they cut, what do I look like? Then

789
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: the second time maybe you have a sense of the

790
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: general story. And then the third time, like I could

791
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: probably say, oh, not the best choice, Oh that was cute.

792
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I like that. I would not watch myself three times

793
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: because I would definitely go down a rabbit hole probably,

794
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: but rewatching one time now, many many many years later

795
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: is just pure enjoyment. Yeah, pure enjoyment. There's so much

796
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: time and space and we're such little children, and luckily

797
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: we're all still working together, which is wonderful. So we

798
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: have that kind of solid, you know, thing that you

799
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: can then look back on and see all the things

800
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: you know. And mostly I'm just I mean, occasionally all

801
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: think like I was bad in that moment, you know

802
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you do, But mostly it's we're crazy.

803
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: We would not be actors, absolutely, we're curus.

804
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: But do you ever do you ever bring things you

805
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: see in doing research for the podcast to the other

806
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: castmates and oh you members?

807
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes, are you kidding?

808
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: Can you give me? Like I have to.

809
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Stop from texting them every single day about it because

810
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: I think I might be driving them crazy. I mean,

811
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: I've had them on. There's more to come on. But

812
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, there's things that none of us remember. Like

813
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: there's this there's an episode in the first season where

814
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Carrie levitates off Fifth Avenue. What the heck? Sarah's like, huh,

815
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: I'm you don't remember. She goes, why, I remember one

816
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: time we had this kind of like Jerry rigged kind

817
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: of platform. I'm like, that must have been it, because

818
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: obviously we had no actual you know, harness or you

819
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But somehow she lifted up. I

820
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 1: don't know how it happened. She doesn't know how. I'm

821
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: sure it was five am, right, which influences everything. But yeah, no,

822
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: we have. But the great part is to try to

823
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: weave the memories together because we all remember different things,

824
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, So that's the fun part. I just want

825
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: to know because you're a married person, right, You're a

826
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: successful married person, which i'd like to say, congratulations. Not easy.

827
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: You're doing is not easy.

828
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's definitely not easy, but you know, it

829
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: is what it is, and I love it and it

830
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: is what it is. Oh my god, thank you so much.

831
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep it all going. You know

832
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Isn't that what we are? You are here,

833
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,280
Speaker 1: we are thank you, We are.

834
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: Here getting to your kids things.

835
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at you hopefully hopefully knock on the wood. Yeah,

836
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: this is what I think, and I'm curious your thoughts.

837
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: I had so many moments of watching this thinking nothing

838
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: has changed about being single in our world, and I

839
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because I come from the generation

840
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: of us, right, I'm not a younger person, and I

841
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: do feel like younger people possibly have more freedom about

842
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: being single. Are you I I'm fully.

843
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: Okay?

844
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: Is that what you're asking me?

845
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm saying, are you I was going to say,

846
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: are you crazy? Because like the apps have made dating

847
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: so different? I think, yeah, like there's such a different attitude,

848
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: there's such a swipe mentality, right, and like I'm not

849
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: gonna take the risk of even five minutes of sitting

850
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: awkwardly with is interesting if I don't have to. But

851
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: you're doing it, so I don't.

852
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. No, I'm not on those apps man.

853
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 2: No, okay, I mean, if it's the same, I don't know.

854
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: This is the thing that I think is confusing, so

855
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: We've had all these changes, right, like the apps, I

856
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: fundamentally changed things, right, But I'm not really in the

857
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: dating pool, right, I've got my kids. I don't understand

858
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: that right to me because I'm I'm from our group,

859
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: right like, I didn't. I didn't make the change. I

860
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: don't know how to put it. I didn't roll with it,

861
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was paying sen to

862
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: the kids. I wasn't name about dating, you know. So

863
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: then I was just like, what the heck is this?

864
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: Like strangers? Yeah, I mean I don't understand, like really,

865
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: like I'm going to talk to a stranger and then

866
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: potentially meet up with them, Like what, But.

867
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: You've never done it now, You've never swiped or looked a.

868
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: Friend a single guy friend. I was like, please show

869
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: it to me because we haven't.

870
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: Even fancy one.

871
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: No, he showed me the riot because he's fancy. But no,

872
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm scared to death, Mark, I don't understand. I'm shy.

873
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: I know it seems weird to say that because I'm

874
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: sitting here easily with you, but you're lovely. But and

875
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm an actor, and people think that actors can't possibly

876
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: be shy. But we really can, because you have a character,

877
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're you have like a general.

878
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 2: Why many of just got into it.

879
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: That's why I got into it. So like the idea

880
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: that I would be just like swiping up people's faces

881
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: with weird descriptions and then just be like, well that

882
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: one looks nice and then texting with them or whatever.

883
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand, and then everyone would know if you

884
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: like them or not. I don't get that. And then

885
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: you might meet for coffee with a total stranger who

886
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: could be a psychopath.

887
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might have already done like sexting and

888
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: weird things before, but is that.

889
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: What they do? For sure? Well that's crazy. Sure, I

890
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: don't understand at all.

891
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: But maybe what you're also out of order. Maybe what

892
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: you're ahead saying is that like the loneliness or the

893
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: feelings that are evoked by Samantha sitting at that table, yes,

894
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: our time immemorial, like.

895
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: They are so relatable.

896
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: From Jane Austin on through to today. Women or men

897
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: want companionship and love and it's hard when you can't

898
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 2: find your.

899
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: Pubble well, for for sure, don't get me started on that.

900
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: But what I will say also is like I really

901
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: related to Carrie, I would say, but like when so

902
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: so Sarah Jessica carry you know, she gets this picture taken,

903
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: like she's late and she's smoking in this photographer her friend.

904
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: She's living her life. You can't prepare. But they know.

905
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: They don't even catch her.

906
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: They they zero in on it.

907
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: They go for it. You know what I'm saying in

908
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: the way that the press is like now, right and

909
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: for the whole time that I've been in the press,

910
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: thirty years of this insanity where you have to like

911
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: be so careful and they'll make you look bad, and

912
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: they want to make you look bad, and they're like,

913
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: why is Kristen single? No, no, no, no, no, you know,

914
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I know it's okay, but I mean this is our world, right,

915
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean.

916
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: You are like, I know why you wouldn't be on

917
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: the apps because you're the catch of catches.

918
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: We are kind. That is so sweet, That is so sweet.

919
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm not on the apps because I think I would

920
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: pick a crazy person. That's why I'm Okay, I can

921
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: find them. Okay, that's a good reasoning, isn't it. Isn't it? See,

922
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: this is the things that I've learned, right, Like you

923
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: do learn over time, you know, I know myself. I

924
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: know myself. I know what's interesting. Crazy people are interesting.

925
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, so that's why I'm not watching every

926
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: crime docuseries on TV.

927
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: See exactly right. I've wanted to ask you about your show.

928
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: Is your show going to come back?

929
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: There was an announcement about it. It's still like fighting

930
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: its way to the moment of official green light, but

931
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: is really in process. And I saw things and I

932
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: think it's amazing and it would be so great for

933
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: Royal Pains to come back in a new form. Yeah,

934
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: we shall see incredible.

935
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: And then what about aren't they also redoing Practical Magic

936
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: or doing it next they are? Are you not in that?

937
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to ruin it for anybody who's about

938
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: to see it, but I will because you know, it's

939
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: a side character. I got hit by a truck and killed.

940
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: But they're witches.

941
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: So all I'm saying to Sandy and the whole team

942
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 3: Practical Magic, yeah, is like, hey, Dan East and Stocker Channing,

943
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: just do a little you know, focus and the kid

944
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 3: is back.

945
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 2: On the screen.

946
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. That Isn't it fascinating how things are coming back.

947
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, on the one hand, I know,

948
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: sometimes people criticize that, But on the other hand, I

949
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: feel like our business is in free fall and that

950
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: there's an ip that people know why not?

951
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: But you know, in the discussion about the Royal Pains reboot,

952
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: one of my partners in it was like, there's never

953
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: there's no good example of a six and isn't your

954
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 2: show the best example of a successful reboot?

955
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing.

956
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: First, a reboot.

957
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: We don't like to call it a reboot becauseuation great, right,

958
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: But like, couldn't we say if you had to find

959
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: an example of a of a reinvention, it's a reinvention,

960
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: it's a rebirth.

961
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: Yes, that is as good as you can get.

962
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: I think you're really kind. I'm just going to be

963
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: totally honest and saying not everyone would agree with that.

964
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine, screw I'm like whatever, but we're

965
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: doing it.

966
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Can you think of a better one?

967
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: No? I mean, I don't know, You're there's.

968
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: Lots of reroots on the table, right, but I haven't

969
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: seen a lot of great ones.

970
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: And we have continued and we we live on. And

971
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: that's really what this third. We're just putting the third

972
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: on the air. It's awesome, and you know, to us,

973
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: we're women in our fifties now, right, so like you know,

974
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: we're pushing this some different boundaries that are not that

975
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: easy to get someone to say that you get to

976
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: push now, right, so that another shelf isn't accomplished.

977
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: If anybody would be allowed, it would.

978
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Be you, because that's exactly that's why we have to

979
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: do it.

980
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

981
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: Because we're like, we got to show them that it

982
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: can be done.

983
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 2: And even though that's still young, you don't look like

984
00:46:58,840 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: you look like you.

985
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: That's only because I'm having a good time. But thank you, Okay,

986
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: you guys, this has been the absolute most fun with

987
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: Mark Fuerstein. He has been a dream guest, has been.

988
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: A dream to be here.

989
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: Thank you.

990
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: I am so happy to see you again.

991
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: Me too.

992
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: And let's not let it be so long until we

993
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: see each other again. I know, And I will have

994
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: to say I will keep my eyes peeled because frankly,

995
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 2: you're the catch of the century.

996
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: So just just in my travels, in my travels, I

997
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: say that you let me know, see I need a referral.

998
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: You know what I'm trying to say. I trust, Yeah,

999
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: I can't be people.

1000
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, who know you?

1001
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mark. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

1002
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: With that aside. This was so fun. You're so good

1003
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: and you thank you for having me.

1004
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: And you're so great on that episode. So I'm just

1005
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: happy that we got to be together because I like

1006
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: to really be able to kind of rehash and reimmortalize

1007
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: the amazing episodes that we did way back there.

1008
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 2: And I just want to say playing a guy was

1009
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: so bad in bed that Miranda had to fake her

1010
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: orgasms was so great for my single life at the time.

1011
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: I really wanted to and I didn't know how it

1012
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: was because you could surprise people.

1013
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 2: It was a bummer when a girl and I would

1014
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: hook up and then she say, oh, so it was typecasting.

1015
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: That's buddy, that's really fready. Well, it all worked out

1016
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: for you, So I'm glad. All right, your joy