Speaker 1: Okay, so we are live at Wingo Tango, all thanks
Speaker 1: to sugar Bear Hair, and you know, I just love
Speaker 1: sugar Bear because my hair looks really good. So we're
Speaker 1: here live and a lot of really awkward stuff just
Speaker 1: happened down at the carpet. Can't wait to share that
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a good wine down, fine down
Speaker 1: with Janet Kramer and Michael Coffin. And I've heard radio podcast.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to start. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: what's remembering, um, how to lose a guy in ten days?
Speaker 1: She goes, I'm mystified. I'm absolutely mystified that. Um, when
Speaker 1: Kate Hudson shows up at her house and was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you've only you've only diated the guy for
Speaker 1: five days, I'm just mystified. Is that how you felt
Speaker 1: on the carpet today? Yeah? I had a really uncomfortable
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of like testing a little bit for
Speaker 1: Extra for Extra, doing some hosting stuff. And one of
Speaker 1: the first well, oh my god, it was a really
Speaker 1: it was a really nice test. And I guess I'm
Speaker 1: not going to be a correspondent for Extra because I
Speaker 1: just had the most awkward encounter with Karin the girl
Speaker 1: from the Bachelor, the girl from the Bachelor, and she
Speaker 1: was apparently the villains or produced as or was the villain,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, total villain. And I don't really I
Speaker 1: just remember hearing a bunch of hate about her, and
Speaker 1: I knew she was the villain. I watched after the
Speaker 1: Rose ceremony and she was, you know, going at it
Speaker 1: and kind of being mean to some of these other
Speaker 1: girls and especially my girl Hannaby. So then I said
Speaker 1: to her, I said, so, how does it feel to
Speaker 1: be the most hated villain? And she was like uh
Speaker 1: and starts like looking at her people, And I was like,
Speaker 1: what is this news to you? Because I thought you,
Speaker 1: like knew that you were the villain. I didn't a villain,
Speaker 1: but I didn't say that, but I was just like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I mean, not like the
Speaker 1: most hated, but I mean you're a villain. And she's
Speaker 1: just like, well that was That's a really rude question.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you probably didn't even mean it
Speaker 1: like that. You probably meant to say most hated or
Speaker 1: villain and you just haven't say all that. I said both,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to cry, and then I wanted
Speaker 1: to do the Ashley Simpson like just drop the mic
Speaker 1: right now, Jana and run. It's okay, Like it's all good,
Speaker 1: Like you could do this, just drop the mic and run.
Speaker 1: But so, I mean, I don't know how I recovered
Speaker 1: because I honestly blacked out. So how was the rest
Speaker 1: of the interview? You you salvage, You saved yourself. You
Speaker 1: really saved face and turned it around. It is just
Speaker 1: funny that and that has to be hard. You know,
Speaker 1: people probably take that for granted when they see people
Speaker 1: interview and I guarantee you there's not one interviewer, even
Speaker 1: Ryan Seacrest, who has interviewed everyone in the world probably
Speaker 1: that hasn't had a moment like that that has done
Speaker 1: somebody that they're interviewing. So here the problem is is
Speaker 1: I was doing it solo. I really wanted you to
Speaker 1: do it with me. I just feel like I'm better
Speaker 1: with you, Like what like share it was not good
Speaker 1: without Sunny damn right, like she was really good, just
Speaker 1: that she was actually really good. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: just think it was funny because I know what everyone
Speaker 1: knew what you meant to say, right, but you said
Speaker 1: you were like you're the most hated villain person ever
Speaker 1: of all time in that show ever history. But she
Speaker 1: kind of was I mean, but I didn't mean, But
Speaker 1: you're right, I didn't mean to put all those together.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe I'm just not meant to be a host.
Speaker 1: You can't base that off of one thing. And again
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that bad. Or again it felt she
Speaker 1: could have easily turned that around laughed it off, and
Speaker 1: she called it out, saying that was really rude. She
Speaker 1: said that was kind of rude, but in like a
Speaker 1: witchy way. Oh yeah, for sure, but she should shouldn't
Speaker 1: be naive the fact that she was portrayed as the villain,
Speaker 1: and so someone can easily turn that around, laugh it off,
Speaker 1: like yeah, that's crazy, right. She had no idea who
Speaker 1: I was to because she said she wants to be
Speaker 1: a pop singer and I was like, well, I'm a singer. Sick,
Speaker 1: oh you're a singer. And I was just like, you
Speaker 1: have no idea, It's okay, it's all good. But you know,
Speaker 1: who's so sweet? And this is so I don't want
Speaker 1: to keep talking about the Bachelor people from for more
Speaker 1: than we have to. But did the Hannah Bee was
Speaker 1: so nice because she knew who I was, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, you do. So do you
Speaker 1: base people's niceness off of whether or not they know
Speaker 1: who you are? Ums? Like, valid question. I mean it
Speaker 1: made me feel really nice, so sure, it made me
Speaker 1: be like and then what I loved about her is
Speaker 1: that she's a tree Hiller, And I was like, I
Speaker 1: love you, and now I'm tilers are awesome. They're the
Speaker 1: greatest people alive. Yeah, they're hardcore. Yeah, like they're the
Speaker 1: reason why a tree Hiller. Yeah. I can't believe you've
Speaker 1: never seen an episode? Are you ever going to? No,
Speaker 1: you've binge to all the shows. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I finished every show on Netflix but one Tree Hill,
Speaker 1: So I think that's like last on my cue. I
Speaker 1: got the real I got the real life Alex do
Speaker 1: pray right in front of me character. So, babe, who
Speaker 1: are you most excited to see at Winko Tango? Let
Speaker 1: me just go back to the generic coast questions as
Speaker 1: I suckings. But this is actually, this has been a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. You know, it's June one, which is yeah,
Speaker 1: it's where this is live. It's June one. June Gloom
Speaker 1: has already begun on the first day June. And but
Speaker 1: it's it's it's still a beautiful day. The temperature is great,
Speaker 1: and everyone's downstairs having a good time. And I have
Speaker 1: a couple of drinks now, and I'm happy you're golden.
Speaker 1: I had a cheeseburger, a cup of coffee and to drinks.
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm actually starving right now. I'd love to
Speaker 1: get another drink or I mean drink. Okay, I have
Speaker 1: not drink yet. No. Um. So I want to talk
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Speaker 1: it's like six o'clock. These aren't really a yeah, I'm
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Speaker 1: wait to eat those at home. Are we staying for
Speaker 1: the So there's Joe, there's the Jonas brothers, and then
Speaker 1: there's um, Well are we staying for them? Well? I'm
Speaker 1: surprised because they're back together now that they did they
Speaker 1: have a break up, though I don't really know the
Speaker 1: hope that they did. It was essentially a break up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like We're going to do our own thing.
Speaker 1: They officially broke up. Really, how do brothers break up?
Speaker 1: The names? They get too close, Dad likes you better.
Speaker 1: How do you break out? I don't know. Are we
Speaker 1: going to? Okay? So the Jonas Brothers, there's I really
Speaker 1: love Hall at the Heart Awards show that we were
Speaker 1: too and we saw Halisey open that show. We both
Speaker 1: were like, okay, we kind of liked her now she
Speaker 1: were like, she's badass, She's dope. She was awesome. She's
Speaker 1: really opened the show amazing. Yeah, I agree, So I'd
Speaker 1: love to see her. And Z is always great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: T Swift me, that's a good jam. It is a
Speaker 1: good jam. It's the first Taylor Swift song and we
Speaker 1: both talked about that. We liked from the first, from
Speaker 1: the from the get go. A lot of times I
Speaker 1: have to listen to it at least and we always
Speaker 1: five or ten times. We always fall into the Swift
Speaker 1: trap and end up loving every song that she puts
Speaker 1: out was at the Swift trap. That's copyrighted, So Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: If you end up naming a song like that, thank you.
Speaker 1: Um no, but no, that song me with Panic at
Speaker 1: the Disco is fantastic. I mean, that's a jam from
Speaker 1: the moment it hits, so um, should we just talk
Speaker 1: about the fact that Sarah is engaged? Can you believe it?
Speaker 1: I can't believe, Like, we don't have her on the show,
Speaker 1: like right now, I know, I'm hoping that we can
Speaker 1: get her for the Nashville show. Yeah, we have a
Speaker 1: Nashville Live show. Because she is freaking engaged. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy for her. We were actually in an argument on
Speaker 1: the way to film something together in the car and
Speaker 1: You're like, why are you entering your phone face timing
Speaker 1: in the car and I was like, because Sarah's called
Speaker 1: me twice and it's either they've broken up or she's
Speaker 1: got a ring, And I was I was like angry
Speaker 1: that you were going to pick it up because we
Speaker 1: weren't seeing out or something. I'm like, really talked your
Speaker 1: friend right now, now, it's not the time. And then
Speaker 1: as as soon as Janna picked up after the fourth
Speaker 1: misscall from Sarah, Janna picked up and the first thing
Speaker 1: we both saw was the ring. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't even be mad at that.
Speaker 1: So I'm just so incredibly happy for her and Tie
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm anxious to get them on the
Speaker 1: show because I just we kind of have to feel it. Well.
Speaker 1: I wanted her to tell the story. So it's just
Speaker 1: really really really cute. But it's funny how many messages
Speaker 1: I've gotten from all the wine down people like saying, finally,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cool, you know, if we're able to
Speaker 1: do some more live shows. Yeah, to get Stare out
Speaker 1: there and and really have her talk about it, because
Speaker 1: people are gonna love to hear about it. You know.
Speaker 1: I love her. I'm so happy for So before we
Speaker 1: got to Wingo Tango, Um, we're running a little late
Speaker 1: because Janna couldn't stop packing and rest the house. And
Speaker 1: we're to that point where the moving truck comes in
Speaker 1: two days, and so the past couple of weeks we've
Speaker 1: had and I fight a Nashville tomorrow right and then
Speaker 1: why back day of backing sweet So Dad has the
Speaker 1: responsibility of getting the last minute stuff together, which is
Speaker 1: nothing because I've packed the entire Sime I was freaking
Speaker 1: out about because because she's not here to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got it. I'm like, this box is
Speaker 1: the box that we're going to put the rest of
Speaker 1: the stuff. This is boxes for the rest of this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be I was gonna say, um, you know,
Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks we've been living with
Speaker 1: just enough to get by. But now it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: even the things that we've had out to get by,
Speaker 1: we have to box that up. Yeah, clothes, the plastic
Speaker 1: where the we've been using to eat stuff in the like,
Speaker 1: everything it's got to go like that. To day is tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Is it tomorrow? Well, Sunday we have to have it all.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, because Monday they come right, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna be ready to go. I'm so stressed. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be good though. It's gonna be fun. I'm excited
Speaker 1: and tonight we can just like have a bunch of
Speaker 1: fun a Wano tango because it's gonna be awesome. And
Speaker 1: we just appreciate Sugar Bear Hair for hosting this little impromptu.
Speaker 1: I know, I love it regardless of the whole what's
Speaker 1: her name, Karin Karin situation on the carpet. Have you
Speaker 1: enjoyed yourself doing the hosting thing? I have, but but
Speaker 1: it's just it's a different beast. You have to kind
Speaker 1: of just because you don't want to talk about yourself.
Speaker 1: You want to relate, but it's not about you, which
Speaker 1: is fine, Like I can do that, like contrary to
Speaker 1: what you may think about me, I know that it's
Speaker 1: not all about me. But it's it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where I he say, this is the problem. I've
Speaker 1: been asked so many bad interview questions that I put
Speaker 1: so much pressure on asking a good interview question. And
Speaker 1: I think that's where the battle I'm having and struggling with.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're trying too hard. So I
Speaker 1: think that's that's the struggle, because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I clearly sometimes I mess up
Speaker 1: and say things that I don't mean to say, like
Speaker 1: hated ever. Yeah, I think like that, but rubbing into
Speaker 1: my face like dog poop. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure like people listening right now, they see people
Speaker 1: do it, and they see around seacrests, they see all
Speaker 1: these people who interview on the carpets, and most of
Speaker 1: them make it look easy. There's someone there where you'll
Speaker 1: watch and you'll be like, Okay, that's that's kind of rough.
Speaker 1: I mean, but even from an outsider looking in that's
Speaker 1: got to be hard, you know. And like you said
Speaker 1: on here, we're able to ask questions and talk because
Speaker 1: we pull from our own experiences and tell our point
Speaker 1: of view on something as we talk about or ask
Speaker 1: the question. But out there you said you have to
Speaker 1: just it's all about them. Yeah, and you can't relate.
Speaker 1: You don't have time to tell your story or to
Speaker 1: relate in a situation and it doesn't matter, but it's hard.
Speaker 1: Then you're not able to really connect to the person
Speaker 1: because they don't think you can relate or whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. That's what I like to have more of
Speaker 1: a conversation, and I feel like it's hard. You can't
Speaker 1: really have that that conversation when you host right and
Speaker 1: it's all it seems like it's more um, you know,
Speaker 1: it's more of a process in a sense of you're
Speaker 1: not even really you. You're focused on like asking the questions,
Speaker 1: not even their answer almost right, because you're not even
Speaker 1: really stemming your next question off of their answer. Necessarily,
Speaker 1: you don't have time to do that. You have to
Speaker 1: be ready for something else. And I mean you did
Speaker 1: great with t x T, the K pop group. They
Speaker 1: spoke like they speak limited English, but I think that
Speaker 1: was a real challenge for you, and I'm proud of
Speaker 1: you because I think you stepped up to the plate
Speaker 1: and you did really well. Thanks, Bead, I appreciate what
Speaker 1: you were. Like my producer back there, I was like, hey, babe,
Speaker 1: who's that? Look it up? What from? I had? My
Speaker 1: producer happen? He's like, hey, that's um t XT the
Speaker 1: I was just like, thanks, babe, I am um that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't talk to who they will They pulled Hannah
Speaker 1: be away, but I got talked to her backstage and
Speaker 1: she was cool. But then I would have loved to
Speaker 1: talk to Jordan Sparks who she married to that well, No,
Speaker 1: she was married to Trey Soon. Well. She wanted to
Speaker 1: get the ring from what's his face? Because remember they
Speaker 1: were dating for a long time. Drake, No, no, what's
Speaker 1: his name? Shoot one moment, please, one moment please? Is
Speaker 1: that a Jonas Brothers stick she was married? Because I
Speaker 1: think she has Easton has a Jonas Brothers sticker on
Speaker 1: the bass back of his computer. Because I'm a Joe
Speaker 1: bro fan. She she um, I'm a sucker, right, she was.
Speaker 1: She dated Jason Drueler for three years and then Uh,
Speaker 1: she has a son with he's like a basketball player,
Speaker 1: Dana Isaiah over my head, a fitness model. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they got pregnant and they had only been rated for
Speaker 1: a month. It sounds like she has a very exciting life,
Speaker 1: very exciting. She just looked beautiful. I really just wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to her. And she was an American idol, right,
Speaker 1: did she No? Yes, no, I have no idea. As
Speaker 1: sources say, a Ka Easton, she won. Yes, she did,
Speaker 1: go gall go try to think what else. I'm a
Speaker 1: little tired today. Where you tired from? Well, I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to sleep lately because of just the anxiety
Speaker 1: of the move and then the last minute going to
Speaker 1: do an event in Nashville tomorrow out and then flying
Speaker 1: back the day of moving, and then moving across country
Speaker 1: with two kids. It's it's just I'm just like a
Speaker 1: little I'm a little stressed. You know most people would be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's but I don't know. I'm I'm excited
Speaker 1: for the for the new, for the new stuff. Like
Speaker 1: we said, we're at Wine Go Tango, and as you
Speaker 1: guys know, Jana loves wine and only drinks wine. But
Speaker 1: I don't really know the answer to this, why don't
Speaker 1: you drink anything other than wine? Like, I know, like beer.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women that don't drink beer because
Speaker 1: the calories. But like right now I'm drinking a vodka
Speaker 1: sprite with a lemon and a line. But like, why
Speaker 1: don't you do not like liquor at all? No? I do.
Speaker 1: Like I'll have a margarite to every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and when she says she'll have one, she'll smell mine.
Speaker 1: Thet me just smell it because I they I have
Speaker 1: been told that wine is good for you, which it
Speaker 1: has anti accidents in there, so I've been told that's
Speaker 1: good for you. I'm going to find the one article
Speaker 1: that says vodka or bourbon is good for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I know, you know, and also too,
Speaker 1: I know how wine makes me feel. I know how
Speaker 1: much of it I that I can have because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm so terrified of getting drunk and being not in control,
Speaker 1: which is another reason why I don't drink really in public,
Speaker 1: because I have that I'm gonna drink at a restaurant
Speaker 1: with my friends with you, but when at a place
Speaker 1: like this, I would never drink because I don't like
Speaker 1: to feel not in control, and if something were to
Speaker 1: happen like I'd be under influence. It just makes my
Speaker 1: anxiety worse. I have some good news for you, Mike.
Speaker 1: This is according to Town and Country magazine, vodka lowers cholesterol.
Speaker 1: It's good for you, that's right. It can prevent clots, strokes,
Speaker 1: and other heart diseases. You're terrified bo clots, Honey, you
Speaker 1: need to drinkified And for those watching their weight, it's
Speaker 1: generally considered a lower calorie alcohol. Oh. I'm not even
Speaker 1: a big vodka drinker, but yeah, I just I look.
Speaker 1: Wine is so good, you know, like it's just really good.
Speaker 1: It's my drinks pretty good right now? What are you drinking? Bright?
Speaker 1: You want one? Sep no um. So we were filming
Speaker 1: something yesterday. It was funny because one of the questions
Speaker 1: was what annoys you the most about each other? And
Speaker 1: we both had a really hard time coming up with things.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as we got in the car,
Speaker 1: as soon as we got in the car, everything so
Speaker 1: should we tell him sure about me? One of mine
Speaker 1: is when you tear into a bag of chips or
Speaker 1: into anything that you have to tear open, you don't
Speaker 1: tear it all the way off. You leave like a
Speaker 1: microscopic little thing on there, so it just dangles. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why not just tear it off and throw it away.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the way it drives me insane.
Speaker 1: Are you still you're you're laughing over there? Because Alston
Speaker 1: did the same thing. My wife does that, and I
Speaker 1: know her defense is, um, it's if you're going to
Speaker 1: reseal it, which you can't, but if there's an illusion
Speaker 1: that they're that's the closest you can get. But it
Speaker 1: just trips me up. She'll get it on a receivable bag,
Speaker 1: you know where it says tear here above the receivable part.
Speaker 1: She'll still leave it on top because I only I
Speaker 1: only peel it to where I can then open it,
Speaker 1: so with the point of peeling it all the way
Speaker 1: off to get it out of the way. But it's
Speaker 1: not in my way. It's not all about you. There's
Speaker 1: other people that might go into that bag, right, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what was one of yours? Um? Mine was, um, you
Speaker 1: leave Jason's dirty diapers around the house, you don't throw
Speaker 1: them away. It's so frustrating. It's like, just how hard
Speaker 1: is it for you to change his diaper, take the
Speaker 1: diaper and then throw it away, and then because walk
Speaker 1: into room and I'm like, oh, that breaks a pea.
Speaker 1: I wonder why, Yep, there it is, Thanks Mike. I
Speaker 1: was a morning peepe morning pep diver. What was another
Speaker 1: one that I said yesterday? I mean you had a
Speaker 1: bunch of them. Well, the one was like, I don't
Speaker 1: do something like you have to force me to the house.
Speaker 1: Tades on here though, And then another one with the socks.
Speaker 1: That was a good one. He wears two pairs of socks.
Speaker 1: I think it's weird. And then yeah, and then every day,
Speaker 1: every day he wears two pairs of socks. So when
Speaker 1: we do laundry, there's about fifty million socks. Because I
Speaker 1: can't stand all the socks and then having to take
Speaker 1: the socks off, the socks, and I'm like, and if
Speaker 1: I why if I have to change my outfit during
Speaker 1: the day, and even if I don't sweat, like even
Speaker 1: if I'm don't want the shower, but I'll change my outfit.
Speaker 1: I'll change everything, underwear, socks, everything. I won't just take
Speaker 1: your top clothes off and then put new ones on.
Speaker 1: I had to change at all, just the where I
Speaker 1: am and the thing with me is I would wear
Speaker 1: the same pair of socks for like a week, yes,
Speaker 1: and they'll be mismatched. Janna tries to be sweet and
Speaker 1: and folds my laundry, but I never do your socks,
Speaker 1: and I hate because I told her, Honey, I appreciate it,
Speaker 1: but stop touching my socks because you just do them
Speaker 1: all nixed match. You have a cruise sock with an
Speaker 1: ankle sock, you'll have a mixed match. You'll have them
Speaker 1: inside because it would take literally an hour just to
Speaker 1: fold all the socks. And there's so many black socks.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't wear he doesn't wear white socks. They
Speaker 1: have to be black socks. Like my mom got him
Speaker 1: black socks or white sox for Christmas, and he's like, Nora,
Speaker 1: I won't wear these. They're all black Nike socks. And
Speaker 1: so we had to return the white sox to get
Speaker 1: black socks. Yeah, all black black socks. Really don't wear
Speaker 1: any socks today. That Commando getting naughty there, but I
Speaker 1: get the only black sock. Thing. I just can't wrap
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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know, it's just a comfort thing.
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Speaker 1: This is from Karen, and Karen says he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be intimate. I'm currently in a four year relationship
Speaker 1: with a man, but we've had infidelity in lies. The
Speaker 1: infidelity was on his part. We currently are not having
Speaker 1: sex and I feel so unattractive, unloved, and unwanted. It's
Speaker 1: also making me think he uh. It's also making me
Speaker 1: think he is finding it somewhere else like he did before.
Speaker 1: I want to connect with him on an intimate level.
Speaker 1: He has a power lifter and has a very intense
Speaker 1: trains edule, but when I try to initiate, he pushes
Speaker 1: my hand away. I've asked her space, and one night
Speaker 1: he was supposed to call me to discuss this on
Speaker 1: a deeper level. Instead of calling, he texts me that
Speaker 1: he's going to see a doctor because he's not sure
Speaker 1: why he's not wanting to be intimate. You couldn't call
Speaker 1: question mark. I fought for the last year and a
Speaker 1: half of this relationship and now I'm feeling now, I
Speaker 1: feel it's all for nothing. If you have any advice,
Speaker 1: I'd gladly take it. I like the fact that he's
Speaker 1: going to see a doctor. Yes, I think that's huge
Speaker 1: for sure, because it could very well be that. But
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's not. What do you think
Speaker 1: it is? Um you know. I think it has to
Speaker 1: do with you know, have an intimacy disorder where just
Speaker 1: intimacy makes him uncomfortable, and when you're uncomfortable, it's forgot,
Speaker 1: or at least in my experience, it's hard to perform.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be in the moment when you feel
Speaker 1: that uncome portable because, like I've said numerous times on here,
Speaker 1: guys aren't light switches per se, especially guys with intimacy issues.
Speaker 1: So it could be something that's more emotional than it
Speaker 1: is physical. So you know, go see the doctor. Great,
Speaker 1: try you know biagraph or sallis or something like that.
Speaker 1: Great if it works, awesome. Um, But I think seeing
Speaker 1: a therapist because it could also be very helpful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would definitely say a therapist. And I would say
Speaker 1: to um, the all for nothing, I think is something
Speaker 1: that I've learned, and I said to like, this is
Speaker 1: all for nothing. Nothing is all for nothing. If that
Speaker 1: does that make sense to you? Yeah, Like I see
Speaker 1: how it feel that way. I totally can see how
Speaker 1: it feels that way. But it's you. It's not all
Speaker 1: for nothing. Even if you spent like okay, Like for example,
Speaker 1: I could say if we ended up not working out
Speaker 1: and be like, oh, it was all for nothing, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I learned so much we through Maybe then
Speaker 1: we grew apart, but like I learned so much through
Speaker 1: that process that yes, in the moments like man, I
Speaker 1: just wasted three years, But then it's not all for
Speaker 1: nothing because you're you're learning something along the way, right,
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because you definitely felt that way in
Speaker 1: the early stages of our reconcil for sure. I think
Speaker 1: you can't notice it until the switch. Yeah, oh for sure.
Speaker 1: So it makes again, it makes sense why she feels
Speaker 1: that because they're not to that point. She's not to
Speaker 1: that point. You know, they haven't done the work yet.
Speaker 1: Um or maybe she has but he hasn't. So it's hard.
Speaker 1: It takes to both people. So yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: good that you've seen a doctor, but you know he
Speaker 1: should see a therapist, and because it very well could
Speaker 1: be coming from emotions and those kind of issues. But
Speaker 1: it's it's tough in I mean, you know, you and
Speaker 1: I still kind of talk about this sometimes when you
Speaker 1: know you want to initiate and I don't jump on
Speaker 1: board right away. It's a tough one for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. So I empathize with that. Hopefully he can
Speaker 1: learn how to empathize as well. Yeah, that's where we
Speaker 1: need to. Hopefully he can get to that point. Oh
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