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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's a couple of things going on. The

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Speaker 2: Tiger Woods story is not just a sports story. It's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot bigger than that. But next week is

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Speaker 2: the Masters. Is Tiger going to go? Is Tiger going

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Speaker 2: to go to the Champions dinner on Tuesday night? Tiger's

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Speaker 2: also involved in a public golf course project there close

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Speaker 2: to Augusta National. Will he go there for that? Is

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Speaker 2: he going to play? Try to play in the Masters.

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Speaker 2: If you've won the Masters, you get an invite. But

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Speaker 2: now not all players who have won the Masters decide

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Speaker 2: to play in the Masters. They become too old, they

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Speaker 2: don't want to put up ninety five as their score.

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Speaker 2: Tiger has not let Augusta National know if he's going

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Speaker 2: to be there or not to participate. Now fifteen former

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Speaker 2: winners have told the Masters they will not be participating

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Speaker 2: in the actual tournament. As of this morning, Tiger has

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Speaker 2: not let anybody know anything. There is a report that

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Speaker 2: Tiger is still practicing, and that would give you maybe

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Speaker 2: some credence to Tiger will still try to play at Augusta.

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Speaker 2: Will he even go? You know, if he's not going

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Speaker 2: to play. Will he go to the Champions dinner on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday night? He's got a press conference now, at least

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Speaker 2: he was scheduled for a press conference to talk about

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Speaker 2: this public golf course that they're launching in Augusta and

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Speaker 2: he's part of it. He's part of the design team.

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Speaker 2: Is he going to show up? They want Tiger there,

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Speaker 2: they want him at a press conference. This is prior

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Speaker 2: to his arrest.

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Speaker 3: Is he going to.

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Speaker 2: Go and if he goes, is he going to talk

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Speaker 2: to the media? Will he say I can't talk about that,

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Speaker 2: which I don't know who is who his advisors are,

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Speaker 2: and what their game plan would be for something like this.

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Speaker 2: But this was supposed to be a really big deal.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think Tiger was going to play. But as

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Speaker 2: I said yesterday, I've said a couple of times, there

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Speaker 2: is a photograph of his private jet there in Augusta recently,

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Speaker 2: and you usually go a couple of weeks prior if

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Speaker 2: you're going to be playing in the tournament. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: to Jim Bones mackay, who now works for NBC, get

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on the Tigers situation. He'll join us coming

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Speaker 2: up next hour. Reggie in the final hour of the program.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it. I know I talk about it

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Speaker 2: maybe too much, but keep this in mind. On March

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, Victor wembn Yama's MVP odds were plus twenty

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Speaker 2: two hundred. As of this morning, they're listed at plus

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Speaker 2: twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Here he comes. He put up forty one. Last night.

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Speaker 2: SGA put up forty seven. They won their sixtieth game.

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller texted me late last night and he said,

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Speaker 2: I want to revisit the MVP conversation.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Feels like reg I was Reggie doing. I think it

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Speaker 2: was doing the Thunder and the Knicks last night.

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Speaker 4: Is that the Sunday night game? You did Thunder?

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably why he wants to talk about SGA.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you get to your sixty wins. If

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Speaker 2: you have the most wins, I still think that SJA

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Speaker 2: is going to be your MVP. But the fact that

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Speaker 2: JJ Reddick, the Lakers head coach Doncik was suspended for

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Speaker 2: his sixteenth technical so he didn't play. Lebron had a

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Speaker 2: triple double last night, but JJ said he the way

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Speaker 2: Lucas playing, he would be my MVP. Well, I expect

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Speaker 2: him to say that. It would be news if he said,

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Speaker 2: how are you kidding? Sga is or Victor is going

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Speaker 2: to be but you're going to give your guys support there.

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Speaker 3: Luca to me, is still the best player in the game.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to win, and you know, it can

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Speaker 2: come down to subtle things like if Denver had the

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Speaker 2: best record in the West, then Joker would win the MVP.

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Speaker 3: They're on a run.

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Speaker 2: If the Spurs have the best record, then Wemby would

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Speaker 2: probably be your MVP. Should it come down to who

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Speaker 2: has the best record? Is that the most valuable? You know,

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Speaker 2: I've said before with Jalen Brown, you carry the Celtics

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Speaker 2: for half the season, maybe three quarters of the season,

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Speaker 2: Tatum comes back, and now you're the team with the

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Speaker 2: second best odds to win the championship behind OKC. Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brown to me, I would put him ahead of Luca.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't put him ahead of Sga. I wouldn't put

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Speaker 2: him ahead of Wemby. You could put him ahead of

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Speaker 2: Joker and have a legitimate case. You know, his numbers

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Speaker 2: aren't the same, but he's been great. He's been great

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Speaker 2: for the Celtics. Quietly, this was supposed to be one

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Speaker 2: of those, Well, this will be an off year, maybe

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Speaker 2: the Pistons of the team that plays for a championship

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Speaker 2: out of the East, or maybe the Knicks, or maybe

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Speaker 2: of anybody to win the championship. The other story is

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Speaker 2: Dan Hurley and his I don't even know how to

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Speaker 2: describe this because it's not a headbutt, but it's almost

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Speaker 2: a meeting of the minds where they touch foreheads after

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Speaker 2: the shot, and you're thinking, what is he thinking to

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Speaker 2: put yourself in a position like that where you're touching

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Speaker 2: foreheads with the official with four tenths of a second

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Speaker 2: left for you to go to the final four. Now,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people this became more than just a

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Speaker 2: basketball situation. Everybody has an opinion because if I look

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Speaker 2: at this and I listened to social media, you know,

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Speaker 2: Danny Hurley is polarizing, but it doesn't look good. But

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Speaker 2: I have to put it in context here, and I

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Speaker 2: think that's the hard part for people, because you've already

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Speaker 2: made up your mind that Dan Hurley, why would he

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Speaker 2: be taunting the official when you just hit a shot

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Speaker 2: four tenths of a second your team is leading, and

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Speaker 2: Seth Davis from CBS said, for context, the referee is

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Speaker 2: Roger Ayres. He's worked multiple Final Fours, known for his

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Speaker 2: toughness and his sense of humor. This struck me as

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Speaker 2: Danny Hurley messing with a buddy more than intimidating a

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Speaker 2: ref This is after the Mullen shot, so Hurley was

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Speaker 2: obviously not mad at the officials. Social media was in

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Speaker 2: his kind and didn't offer that context here?

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Speaker 3: Why no technical?

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Speaker 2: Well? I kept saying, okay, what is the context of this?

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Speaker 2: Has Danny Hurley been interviewed since this to ask about

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Speaker 2: this moment? I haven't seen anything, but I'm surprised. I

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Speaker 2: would figure local media availability somebody would ask him about that.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think Danny Hurley would pick that moment

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Speaker 3: That would cost you the game.

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Speaker 2: It felt like, hey, that was a moment almost, you know, like,

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Speaker 2: how do you like them apples? That's the feeling I got.

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Speaker 2: You know, Matt Damon and Goodwill Hunting, how do you

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Speaker 2: like them apples? Maybe he's saying, hey, what do you

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Speaker 2: But the context of it I think is important with

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Speaker 2: but I would love to find that out if somebody is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we weren't going to ask for Dan Hurley again.

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Speaker 2: He joined us last week and gave us a lot

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Speaker 2: of time. But I haven't even seen a statement that.

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Speaker 2: If I'm Yukon the sports information director, can you put

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Speaker 2: out a statement there? When is their media availability for

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Speaker 2: Dan Hurley and Connecticut Because it is a big deal

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Speaker 2: and he's polarizing to start with. And look, I've watched

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Speaker 2: that video fifty times. It feels like I just I

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Speaker 2: come away with these same what the hell is going

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Speaker 2: on here? Like I've seen a lot in forty years

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Speaker 2: doing this. That's wild. You're gonna you're gonna touch foreheads.

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Speaker 2: I can't say it's ahead butt, it's not. But I'd

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Speaker 2: love to hear from the official. Hey, I've known Hurley.

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Speaker 2: You know we went back and forth. You know, whatever

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Speaker 2: you're reasoning is on this or description is on this.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, I've seen the meeting of the minds between players,

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Speaker 5: maybe the coach and mullins. If they would have done that,

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Speaker 5: that would have been fine, but the ref that's almost

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Speaker 5: like doing that the john Shire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just wild, Yes, Todd.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to know or believe that a coach

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Speaker 6: and a ref our buddies. At the very least, it's

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Speaker 6: a bad look. So that's that's the only a problem

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Speaker 6: I have there. If it's being described as that's just

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Speaker 6: something between two buddies, that's just not well.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's correct. I don't think they're buddies,

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Speaker 2: but I think there's familiarity there that they're both competitors.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if unless Danny Hurley comes out and says, oh, yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: we socialize.

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Speaker 3: We're buddies, you know, on and off the court.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he says that, then yeah, that you

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Speaker 2: can read into that however you want to that. Well,

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Speaker 2: he's got his buddy out there. They travel in the

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Speaker 2: same circles and you know, this official has done some

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Speaker 2: final fours. I'm assuming they cross paths quite a bit

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Speaker 2: if they're playing in big games.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: See, that's actually a bigger problem if they're like, well,

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Speaker 7: we're buddies on and off the court, Like yeah, okay,

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Speaker 7: that's not supposed to be happening. Yeah, I do find

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Speaker 7: though that the more like you. I've watched it a

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Speaker 7: good jillion times, and it gets kind of more bizarre

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Speaker 7: slash more amusing each time that I watch it. The

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Speaker 7: thing though, that I keep coming back to is you.

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Speaker 7: Obviously you watch Dan Hurley in that moment, you're like, dude,

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Speaker 7: what is this guy doing? But when you the ref

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Speaker 7: he has no reaction. He doesn't even it's not even

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Speaker 4: In the moment.

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Speaker 7: If some dude came up to you and put his

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Speaker 7: people would be like, yo, what are you doing, dude?

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Speaker 3: Yes, well the heck, because.

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Speaker 7: It's just an odd motion to make. This guy is

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Speaker 7: like just going through to the scorers table, almost like ah,

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Speaker 7: I gotta see how much time is left, you know,

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Speaker 7: like he's just doing business, get out of my face

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Speaker 7: kind of thing. He didn't even, he didn't even react

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Speaker 2: And usually you would get the almost overreaction if somebody

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Speaker 2: was trying to head butt you, you would bounce back, flop,

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Speaker 2: but there was no emotion. There was I mean, there

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Speaker 2: was pause, but then that was it. He just kept

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Speaker 2: moving to the scorers table. Because he wanted to get

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Speaker 2: the exact time. Then you know, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: it's three tenths of a second instead of four tenths

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Speaker 2: of a second, or maybe it's four tenths of a second.

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Speaker 3: But Hurley is a mess, you know, his jacket.

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Speaker 2: Is kind of on and off, and he's walking down,

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Speaker 2: can't believe what just happened. And then all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden he see him coming and it might have been

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Speaker 2: something as hey, what do you think of that?

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Speaker 3: And then they move on. Yeah, PAULI like.

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Speaker 8: You, guys, I've watched this twenty times and if you

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Speaker 8: had to describe this to someone, it's almost hard to

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Speaker 8: find the words. It's like Danny Hurley was speaking in

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Speaker 8: tongues or having an outer body moment because he turns

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Speaker 8: and they kind of run into each other. And then

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Speaker 8: if you keep watching the video, there's a longer video.

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Speaker 8: The ref goes to the scores table, doesn't say anything

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Speaker 2: And Hurley just goes back to the bench and resumes coaching.

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Speaker 2: But yes, it was a If you look at the

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Speaker 2: headlines there, you know it's a headbut's official? Why not

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Speaker 2: He's Jim Bones mackay, NBC Sports on Course reporter, former

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Speaker 2: But how does that work where you have to have

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Speaker 2: an opinion in he gives you the opportunity to have opinion.

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Speaker 2: What happens when your opinion doesn't coincide with his?

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Speaker 11: Well, he's the boss, certainly.

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Speaker 10: And Phil was a you know, wasn't a very opinionated

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Speaker 10: you know, strongly he he he had he was. There

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Speaker 10: was no self doubt there with Phil and that was great.

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Speaker 10: It made it easy to work for him. And uh so,

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Speaker 10: you know, usually when his mind. He had his mind

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Speaker 10: set on something. You know, he was going to go

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Speaker 10: ahead and go and do it, you know, and I

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Speaker 10: would I would say my piece and and kind of

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Speaker 10: back out of there.

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Speaker 11: But uh, he The.

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Speaker 10: Thing that's interesting about that shot out of the trees

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Speaker 10: was I worked for the guy for twenty five years.

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Speaker 10: It was one of only two occasions where we got

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Speaker 10: ourselves into a bit of a pickle where he told

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Speaker 10: me what he was going to do before I even

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Speaker 10: gave him the yardage. So he on that particular shot,

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Speaker 10: he had his mind made up and he was ready

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Speaker 10: to roll.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it turned out great for both of you guys. Uh,

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Speaker 2: tell us one more time how people can access all

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Speaker 2: this data AI from Masters.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just available through the Masters app. You can

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Speaker 10: get get it there on your phone or on your

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Speaker 10: on your on your device, and it's it's just an

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Speaker 10: incredible thing to have and to you to be able

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Speaker 10: to keep up with this year's tournament. And uh, it's

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Speaker 10: the most amazing app in sports that I've ever come across.

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Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Jim, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Dan, take care.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tariko. I'm getting these text messages from you late

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Speaker 2: last night, all these like you you're telling me what

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Speaker 2: you want to talk about.

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Speaker 3: You're producing your segment. All right, I'll let you go.

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Speaker 12: Like not at all. We work in conjunction, Theodore.

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Speaker 2: I thought, maybe all of a sudden you fell in

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Speaker 2: love with SGA for.

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Speaker 4: The MVP, not all of them.

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Speaker 2: Are you made your decision that SGA is the MVP

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Speaker 2: on Sunday night?

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Speaker 3: Is that what happened?

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Speaker 12: Not only Sunday Night, but just watching the game last

488
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Speaker 12: night in that overtime thriller versus the number one seed

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Speaker 12: in the Eastern Conference Detroit again, I know they were

490
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Speaker 12: without Kaid, I know they were without Durham. I know

491
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Speaker 12: they were without Isaiah Stewart, but the Thunder we're missing

492
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Speaker 12: some pieces as well. Jadub didn't play Isaiah Hartenstein. But

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Speaker 12: who shows up to me? He SGA should be again.

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Speaker 12: And I said this on air on Sunday. There's level

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Speaker 12: to that. There's levels to this. And I am never

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Speaker 12: going to take anything away from Wimby because Wimby deserves

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Speaker 12: and he will be winning these awards for a long time.

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Speaker 12: But if we are going to give out the highest

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Speaker 12: award in our game, which is the MVP of the

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Speaker 12: regular season, I get it regular season. I'm going with

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Speaker 12: SGA just for the simple fact minutes played. I mean,

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Speaker 12: I look at Wimby's minutes and they both missed around

503
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Speaker 12: the same amount of time. I believe SGA missed twelve games.

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Speaker 12: Winby has missed fifteen games, eight and four without.

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Speaker 4: SGA, ten and five without Wimby.

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Speaker 12: But for a while there, Wimby was on a minutes

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Speaker 12: researcher and if you look at minutes, and this was

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Speaker 12: a wild stat. Lebron has played less games than Wimby,

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Speaker 12: but has more minutes than Wemby.

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Speaker 4: Right now, that's the point I'm making.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wemby's coming off a blood clot and look at

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Speaker 2: the numbers that he put up, and look at the

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Speaker 2: season that they've had, and if and if we do this,

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Speaker 2: because this is what you know, some of you animals

515
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Speaker 2: like to do. Yes, certain guys don't play defense. And

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Speaker 2: you know, did any of those animals say anything about

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Speaker 2: James Harden when he was winning MVP that he.

518
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Speaker 3: Didn't play right?

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Speaker 2: Nobody said that right now all of a sudden, Luca

520
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Speaker 2: can't play defense, Joker doesn't play defense.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson doesn't play defense.

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Speaker 2: Uh, if we're going to use that, then Wemby defensively

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Speaker 2: is an A plus correct Okay, as an offensive player

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Speaker 2: plus OKB plus U s G A.

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Speaker 4: A minus B plus. He's he's an eight.

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Speaker 12: A plus scorer, a minus two B plus defender.

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Speaker 3: That's Beau really friendly.

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Speaker 12: Oh no, No, he was second in steels a year

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Speaker 12: ago on his way to the m v P.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of guys who were up there

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Speaker 2: in steels who aren't great defenders.

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Speaker 4: Reg Okay, so are you saying that SGA does not

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Speaker 4: play defense?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying he's nowhere near what Wemby is.

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Speaker 12: He's not an A plus for Womby and defense B

536
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Speaker 12: plus in offense.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'll give him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm just saying, nobody talks about SGA's defense. Nobody. Now,

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Speaker 2: he might be hotly rated, nobody talks about that. But

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Speaker 2: I want to know where the analysts were when James

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Speaker 2: Harden was considered the best player in the game. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and Regg James Harden doesn't play defense. Now, he probably

543
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Speaker 2: was up there in steels. I'll bet you Larry Bird

544
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Speaker 2: used to be up there in steels. And Larry wasn't

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Speaker 2: a good defender.

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Speaker 4: Uh, he was a great king.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, But I've been saying SGA is the MVP.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to win the MVP. I think

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Speaker 2: Luca is the best player in the game, and I

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Speaker 2: think the.

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Speaker 4: Best score in our game.

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Speaker 2: I will say that, But he's the best rebounder score

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Speaker 2: in a he's leading in a sith.

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Speaker 4: I would no, I think that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you Kich, That's what I'm saying. Jokich is

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Speaker 2: the best best player in the game in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: I agree to Okay, but if you don't. If Wemby's

558
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Speaker 2: not getting it this year, he's getting it next year.

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Speaker 4: If he plays enough games, yes, yes, but he'll I think.

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Speaker 12: From this point forward, SGA will win it. But starting

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Speaker 12: next year, Wemby's on the clock.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, defends the player of the year. He's on the

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Speaker 4: clock to win MVP.

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Speaker 12: But also too, can we please see the Spurs in

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Speaker 12: a playoff series?

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Speaker 3: Are I agree?

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Speaker 12: Okay, we're gonna get the m v P and he

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Speaker 12: hasn't even played one playoff game again regular season, I

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Speaker 12: get it, but I want to see the Spurs in

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Speaker 12: a playoff series.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that m VP regular season should

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Speaker 2: be pred catered on how well you've done in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: We did that to Jannis, We did that to Joker,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's fair. It's the regular season.

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Speaker 2: It's almost as if, what if the Spurs knock out OKC,

576
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Speaker 2: SGA wins MVP and the Spurs beat OKAC, we can.

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Speaker 4: Come back on here and reevaluable.

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Speaker 3: Well, then they've given the MVP to the wrong guy. Correct.

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Speaker 4: Well, well guess what. They're on a collision course, so

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Speaker 4: let's find out.

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Speaker 12: All I know is a dude started the season twenty

582
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Speaker 12: four and one and right now they're eighteen and two.

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Speaker 12: Since the All Star break again. I know the Spurs

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Speaker 12: are eighteen and two or nineteen and two as well,

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Speaker 12: but I'm leaning towards I'm not leaning.

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Speaker 4: I am.

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Speaker 12: Woman's fine with SGA as the MVP right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, you sent me some notes last night. You

589
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Speaker 2: want to talk MVP Braylan Mullin, shot and Dan Hurley,

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Speaker 2: and then you want to talk about what Duke did wrong. Okay,

591
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: let's start with what Duke did wrong ten seconds to go.

592
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: Then we can get to the shot, and then we

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Speaker 2: could get to Dan Hurley.

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Speaker 12: And this is why you in practice, whether you're at

595
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Speaker 12: the grade school level, high school and obviously in college,

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Speaker 12: you work on situational basketball, okay, and knowing time.

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Speaker 4: Score, foul situation.

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Speaker 12: There was no reason for Boozer to attempt to throw

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Speaker 12: the ball over.

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Speaker 4: I know all of the.

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Speaker 12: Yukon Huskies players were going for the steal and all that,

602
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 12: but all Kayden had to do was hold on to

603
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Speaker 12: the basketball escape dribble, dribble left right.

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Speaker 4: They were going to foul him. He did not have

605
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Speaker 4: to give up that basketball.

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Speaker 12: So knowing time score because they were up to at

607
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Speaker 12: the time, even if he makes one or two with

608
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Speaker 12: no timeouts left, it was going to be virtually impossible

609
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Speaker 12: for U come. But when you give up the basketball,

610
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Speaker 12: when you attempt all it took was a deflection which

611
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Speaker 12: happened steal bucket. No one time plays situational basketball. And

612
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Speaker 12: I'm not saying they don't practice that a duke. Obviously

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Speaker 12: they coach Shire that system.

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Speaker 4: They do.

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Speaker 12: But when you get caught up in the moment, people

616
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Speaker 12: don't understand how big some of these moments are. In

617
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Speaker 12: the heat of the moment, stuff happens, and I feel

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Speaker 12: for the Boozer boys. I feel for Carlos. It's tough.

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Speaker 12: But I was telling people this too, this too shall pass.

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Speaker 3: He's only eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I felt bad that I felt bad, But I have

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Speaker 2: to give Yukon credit because it was a great defensive play,

623
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Speaker 2: a pass and Caravan had just made a tough shot.

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Speaker 2: His was going to be contested. You see the trailer.

625
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Always worry about the trailer. And he finds Mullins, who has,

626
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Speaker 2: you know, wide open from thirty seven feet out and

627
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Speaker 2: he was able to take a jumper.

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Speaker 12: And if there's one player on that team that you

629
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Speaker 12: didn't want to leave open, yeah, was Braylan. I mean,

630
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Speaker 12: arguably the best shooter on that team, even as a freshman,

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Speaker 12: and what a moment for him, his dad, Josh, a

632
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Speaker 12: kid from Indiana. It's it's a Hoosier type ending for them,

633
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Speaker 12: because that's all we do in Indiana. I'm an adopted Hoosier.

634
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Speaker 12: So when I say we, I consider myself a Hoosier.

635
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Speaker 12: That's all those kids do in Indiana is think of

636
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 12: moments like that.

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Speaker 3: How did they lose him?

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Speaker 12: To you Conray, it doesn't matter how they lost, we

639
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 12: still claim him. Okay, he there's a chance for a

640
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 12: shot like that to come home to Indiana for the

641
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Speaker 12: final four. His dad, Josh, his family, Greenfield Central, where

642
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 12: he played high school. He was mister Indiana Basketball. All

643
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 12: these things were set up for that moment. And by

644
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 12: the way, that's a logo shot people. Yeah, I mean

645
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Speaker 12: that's the thirty five forty foot shot to advance your

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Speaker 12: team to the five or four.

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Speaker 4: Kudos to you, mister.

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Speaker 2: Mullens, Reggie Miller on the program, it'll be the Knicks

649
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: and Rockets at eight eastern on NBC and on Peacock. Okay,

650
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: then you have the Dan Hurley moment with Roger Ayres,

651
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Speaker 2: the official. How would you describe it? And if you're

652
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Speaker 2: the official, What would you have done?

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Speaker 4: Wow? What a level.

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Speaker 12: Of discretion here by the official, because you can easily

655
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Speaker 12: make a case. And I am I'm gonna say and

656
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 12: sit here and say, I am surprised a technical foul

657
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 12: was not called because you could have you could have

658
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 12: lost it on that. I understand celebrating, even jumping on

659
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 12: the floor because there was still time left in the

660
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 12: game and some of the Huskies were on the floor.

661
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 12: I've seen technicals fouls called in the college.

662
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: Game for that. None was given. But the mean mug

663
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 4: and the slight Is it a.

664
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 3: Headbut no, no, it's not head to head.

665
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: Oh they were were they touching one another?

666
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: But that's not a head butt. You and John Sears

667
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: might have been.

668
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: A head headbutt, but he smirked, mean mug.

669
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: I think they rubbed foreheads.

670
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 4: Okay, so they head buddy, they.

671
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: Didn't head butt. They had rubbed. They met together.

672
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 4: Very surprised that I was not called.

673
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 12: I give the official and officiating crew a lot of

674
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 12: credit for swallowing their whistles because as unbelievable moment that

675
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 12: was for Brayln Mullins, for Yukon basketball, it could have

676
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 12: been mirrored in contra if that official would have blew

677
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 12: the whistle and gave coach Hurley a technical for them,

678
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 12: So I would have been two shots from anyone, I assume, yeah,

679
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 12: and you could have easily lost that game. Well discretion

680
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 12: by the official, Theodore.

681
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: I think that's two people in a moment, a public moment,

682
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: who understood each other. Yea, And that's why nothing was called.

683
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 12: I think there was history there between that particular official

684
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 12: ye and Dan Hurley, because again, you could easily made

685
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 12: a case and far be it.

686
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: From me to support anything that Duke does.

687
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 12: Sorry Grant, but if you're a Duke fan, you could

688
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 12: easily make a case that should have been a technical foul.

689
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: Do you hate Duke?

690
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: No?

691
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: Did you Duke?

692
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 12: Duke is They're a lot like the Knicks. They just

693
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 12: think they're better than everyone else.

694
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: That's all.

695
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 12: They think their brand of basketball, their style of basketball,

696
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 12: their players are better than they I had this conversation

697
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 12: with Billy King all the time, one of my best

698
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 12: friends in life, assistant coach with the Pacers, and we

699
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 12: just go back and forth.

700
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: All the time about Duke basketball, the brotherhood, and I

701
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 4: get it.

702
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 12: I love them, I love Coach k I love a

703
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 12: lot of the players. I've played with a few duke

704
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 12: players in my lifetime, but they just think they're better

705
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 12: than everyone else. And that's what that's why. It kind

706
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 12: of rubs people the wrong way.

707
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 3: How can the Knicks feel this way? They don't win anything.

708
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 4: Oh, they've won.

709
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: They've been successful in nineteen seventy three.

710
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 4: They had a good run. In the nineties, they had

711
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 4: a great run in the nineties.

712
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 3: They didn't win.

713
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 12: They went to the finals twice. They knocked on the door,

714
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 12: and not everyone could be a champion. All right, we're

715
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 12: all on your cotels.

716
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: What what what changes will the Knicks make? And they

717
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: gotta make a change.

718
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 4: Well, can we see how this? Okay?

719
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: All right, okay, ladies out you got you got two.

720
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: Guys who were bad defenders in Brunson and Karl Anthony Towns,

721
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 2: And in the playoffs they're just gonna single those guys

722
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 2: out and go at him.

723
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 12: Look, I will say this about Brunson. He leads the

724
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 12: league and he leads his team in charge. Is taken

725
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 12: to me. That's a form of playing defense. I'm sorry,

726
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 12: and you can say what you want about him. I

727
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 12: want Jalen Brunson on my team. In close moments in

728
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 12: playoff basketball because the dude just has it. So you

729
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 12: you can hate on Kat all you want. I'm never

730
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 12: gonna hate on Jalen Brunson because you go to play.

731
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: I love Jalen Brunson. I'm I don't want Carl Anthony Towns.

732
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: Do you want Karl Anthony Towns? If you're Jalen Brunson,

733
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: you just answered my question. You just answered my question

734
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 2: the pause.

735
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: You don't want Karl Anthony Towns. Yes, that's your second option.

736
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: He's a he's a good player.

737
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 3: He's a really good shooter, shooter, and that's it.

738
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 4: But at times he does get lost.

739
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 12: In a lot of times, good teams and great players

740
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 12: will find a way to put him in picking rolls

741
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 12: in certain situations.

742
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: He's gotten a little bit.

743
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: Better at I know, you got to choose your words

744
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: carefully because you're running. Yeah, all the Knicks fans out

745
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: there don't like you anyway, so it doesn't matter what

746
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: you say about Karl Anthony town they're.

747
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 4: Seeing the same thing you and I are. Y Yes,

748
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: the thing.

749
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, you got a name for Vegas

750
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: that the NBA like Seattle still gets the super Soon.

751
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I.

752
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 12: Gotta think about that one, because there's a lot of

753
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 12: ways we can go with this. What are some of

754
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 12: the what are some of the names that are being floated?

755
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 12: You know they're not Las Vegas.

756
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: That somebody said the mobsters?

757
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, okay, here is the suggestion, the Las

758
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Vegas strip.

759
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: No, because people are gonna think about strippers.

760
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 2: No, no, well don't you think about that anyway?

761
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: With Vegas.

762
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 12: You don't have to be in Las Vegas. No, the

763
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 12: Las Vegas. I can't say high rollers, No, the Las Vegas.

764
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 12: I gotta think about this because you could be you

765
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 12: can be very creative with this franchise.

766
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta be careful with the whole gambling thing.

767
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: I know, even though there's so much game.

768
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 4: Las Vegas mobsters really.

769
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 3: Are You're not a gambler?

770
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 4: Are you not? Anymore? I mean I used to play.

771
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: It's a waste. I know it's a waste.

772
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't mind going there and playing roulette.

773
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 12: You know that's like fifty to fifty though a few

774
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 12: numbers out there, secret number, head's big deal.

775
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: Did you ever put your jersey number out there?

776
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 12: Always I go with jersey numbers, I know, with kids ages,

777
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 12: I go with uh, I go with MJ, I go with.

778
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 4: Michael, I go with Larry. Yeah, wait you there's a block.

779
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 12: I go with thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, Charles

780
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 12: thirty four, like when you're playing roulette.

781
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 4: But you know how you you could do a block

782
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: of numbers.

783
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 12: I can't see. This is how bad I am as

784
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 12: a gambler. What's it called when you do a block?

785
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 12: Or somebody, Polly, you can do a block of numbers.

786
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: You play one chip in four squares on four squares.

787
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 12: So I would do thirty one, thirty two, thirty three

788
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 12: and thirty four and if one of them hit, then.

789
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: We're going to make it right.

790
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: But you put money on twenty three. Yes, I do, Okay,

791
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: I have okay, yes I do it. Never hit for me,

792
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Mike never hit. Mike never hit, but it was you

793
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: and it was magic Larry and Maroen, Yes, and then

794
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: Charles thirty four.

795
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, that's my go to.

796
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: Michael never bet on thirty one, he would never.

797
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 11: No, he wouldn't.

798
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: Or eleven, Isaia, look at you, look at.

799
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 12: You starting things. Oh I would go ten for my

800
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 12: Olympic number. So I would do ten. Eleven I did do.

801
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 12: Isaiah twelve was someone famous too. I'm trying to think

802
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 12: thirteen I did for Mark Jackson and Dan Marino, so.

803
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: There was blocks. I would do.

804
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you. Love you, Love you, Dan,

805
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: Text me again whenever you need.

806
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 12: To text you in the middle of the night. By

807
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 12: the way you responding to me. Sleep are you again?

808
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 12: I know you're a vampire and sleep never?

809
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: No, I can't. My mind's racing. You know, it's always racing.

810
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 4: We're a team, we're a good change.

811
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Say nice things about Karl Anthony Towns tonight.

812
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: I will, but he's got to rotate, rotate side.

813
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: That Durant's gonna get thirty.

814
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 4: I have the Knicks tonight winning.

815
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: Oh you do okay?

816
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 4: I do all right?

817
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:46,919
Speaker 2: In Houston, In Houston, Jaylen Brunson will take two charges tonight.

818
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: Form of defense.

819
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Tune in to watch Jalen Brunson take a charge tonight.

820
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns to try in the pick and roll.

821
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: That's senior hate mail, the Theodore.

822
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,240
Speaker 4: He's the one that's killing your team. Not me, guy,

823
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 4: not me.

824
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: Reggie'll be on the call with Mike Tarco and Zora Stevenson.

825
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: That'll be coming up tonight. Thank you, Reg. Let's break

826
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: a bread or dene love y'all