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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norri with you.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Sanchez back with us, author researcher you followgiusts. He

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Speaker 2: has dedicated his career to uncovering the mysteries of extraterrestrial phenomena,

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Speaker 2: with a focus on mysterious locations such as Area fifty

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Speaker 2: one in dulcein New Mexico. He regularly writes and speaks

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Speaker 2: at global conferences as well. Anthony, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: Have you been Oh my god, George Norri, it's we

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Speaker 3: haven't talk since twenty seventeen. It's great to hear your voice.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. I know you're on with Connie

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Speaker 2: Willis a couple of years, about a year and a

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Speaker 2: half ago, and you did a great job for us.

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Speaker 2: What's new with you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I wanted to share this news with you. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people are not aware of the fact that

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Speaker 3: in August of twenty nineteen, I got something called Yamba

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Speaker 3: ra sndrome and for two years I was paralyzed from

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Speaker 3: the neck down and I couldn't speak. Oh On actually

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Speaker 3: died three times in the amazing angels at Sutter Medical

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Speaker 3: Health here in Sacramento area brought me back from the

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Speaker 3: other side. And I'm just glad to be alive, and

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Speaker 3: I'm glad to be back on coast to coast and

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Speaker 3: chopping it up with probably the best ever guy, George Nori.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you. Proud of George.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're doing okay. Did you get that from

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Speaker 2: a vaccine or not?

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Speaker 3: No? Actually I got the vaccine afterwards a lot of

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Speaker 3: people were arguing me about that, but at a sinus infection,

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Speaker 3: And what happened was is that the immune system, instead

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Speaker 3: of attacking the sinus infection, an attack of my nervous system.

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Speaker 3: And ask you on Bray syndrome. It literally stripped my

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Speaker 3: vagus nerve of all of the external fatty tissue to

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Speaker 3: protect your nerves, and it rendered me paralyzed and unable

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Speaker 3: to speak for two years. I'm a believe that I

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Speaker 3: was able to maintain my sanity was in my mind.

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Speaker 3: I wrote articles and I wrote books. I completed books,

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Speaker 3: and about eighteen months after all of that began, as

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Speaker 3: my arms started to come back to me, I started typing.

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Speaker 3: Typing type of typing prolifically, and I ended up with

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Speaker 3: my new website, UFO Currents, and there I release articles

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Speaker 3: and I got to tell you something. This past week

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Speaker 3: I released an article that kind of upset a lot

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Speaker 3: of people in the UFO circles because I asked a

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Speaker 3: simple question. I said, are we witnessing a psyop? You know?

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Speaker 3: Are are are we going to expose some sort of

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Speaker 3: a UAP drone agenda that perhaps covering up something else?

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Speaker 3: And sadly, you know a lot of UFO people were

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Speaker 3: upset with me. I'm a UFO person, but George, we

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Speaker 3: have to ask the tough questions we need to know.

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Speaker 3: You know, are the people behind the messaging on part

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Speaker 3: of the defense industry? Are they seeking money? Is just

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Speaker 3: the reason why we've been exposed to this grand pageantry

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Speaker 3: of the UAP narrative through the u a P congressional herrings.

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Speaker 3: Why are we seeing this all over the mainstream media?

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Speaker 3: You know? Why are we seeing seeing them repeat the

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Speaker 3: same messages? Are they trying to provide some sort of

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Speaker 3: a UFO narrative, you know, hopping the top cliff hides

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Speaker 3: the message of this December third date where you predicted

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Speaker 3: we were going to see a slew of UFOs turned

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Speaker 3: out it's u aps, you know, Are they leveraging that

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Speaker 3: to put together some sort of a psyop? You know

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Speaker 3: a lot of people were unhappy with me that I

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Speaker 3: said that, But hey, if we're gonna be real with

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Speaker 3: ourselves and we're gonna be true to this this game

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Speaker 3: that we call UFO research, you know, now U A,

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Speaker 3: P and NHI research, we have to ask the tough questions.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think you were spot on, Anthony.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I've been on Kim Commando's radio show the last couple

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Speaker 2: these drones, and I ruled out. I have ruled out extraterrestrial.

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Speaker 2: I think there's something else in the very nefarious going

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound like it's ets to me exactly.

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Speaker 3: And you know, George, considering the patterns that we've observed,

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Speaker 3: and the historical president is they're a strong likelihood that

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Speaker 3: But we've got to compete. We got to keep you know,

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Speaker 3: telling people what is a psychological operation? You know, and

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Speaker 3: again it's designed to test how the public reacts to

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Speaker 3: why why so that they can justify laws expand government control.

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Speaker 3: Real news. By the way, Chase Hughes said this, He said,

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Speaker 3: real news coexists with credible reports. If we see world

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Speaker 3: And that's why I love Coast to coast. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: you ask. Everybody wants to talk about aliens. I talked

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Speaker 3: back on in twenty eleven, I was ostracized. A lot

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Speaker 3: of people were attacking me because I put my faith

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Speaker 3: in the gentleman, who I still believed in this very day.

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Speaker 3: That said, he worked at an underground base in northern

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Speaker 3: New Mexico called the Dulcie Base. You know, I filed

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna face that as a UFO researcher. Does

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Speaker 3: Linda Malton Howe or does Richard Dolan? Do they come

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Speaker 3: under that level of scrutiny when they step forth with

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Speaker 3: a new movie called The Program, and he has a

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Speaker 3: level of scrutiny? Well, we're used to that as UFO researchers.

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Speaker 3: We're used to that. So I'm okay with putting out

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Speaker 3: an article that's titled are we witnessing a sign off?

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Speaker 3: And again, who serves as consultants or sits on executive

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Speaker 3: relationships with highly commercialized agencies disseminating these UAP and NHI

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Speaker 3: narratives across many platforms? I mean, was it a coincidence

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Speaker 3: that Tom DeLong with his to the Star's Academy just

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Speaker 3: infrastructure when he created his group. To me, Tom, the

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Speaker 3: law was a mechanism by the elites, if you want

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been a part of this move on

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Speaker 3: at move on just a little bit. Last Saturday, I

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Speaker 3: the events. It is an older demographic. It's people like myself.

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Speaker 3: You're going to see people from their forties to octagenarians.

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Speaker 3: So blink Tom belonged to me way back in seventeen,

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen or whatever. That was the catalyst for a

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Speaker 2: Back to these Jones or a second Anthony. All I

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Speaker 2: know is something as big as an SUV is not

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Speaker 2: somebody making it an a little hobby in his house.

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Speaker 3: Right right. And you know one of the things that

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Speaker 3: I have considered, you know, I talked about this with

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Speaker 3: Rick Prestell, who is probably one of the top moufon

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Speaker 3: people that I've known for over a decade. He's an investigator, researcher,

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Speaker 3: and you know, when we have these conversations, we look

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Speaker 3: at that and we're like, Okay, if these drones that

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Speaker 3: you know, seemingly some of them seeming seemingly autonomous by nature,

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Speaker 3: could they be a hybrid you know, prototype device of

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Speaker 3: These are the types of things that as researchers in

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Speaker 3: UFO world, those are the types of questions that we ask.

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Speaker 3: It's still up in the open, it's still up for graphs.

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Speaker 3: You know, what's the bigger play here? What is the

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Speaker 3: purpose of all of this? Why are these drones that

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Speaker 3: I've seen some of the videos. These are drones that

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily you know, evoke you know, past images of

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Speaker 3: what we've seen in the skuise And why at night?

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Speaker 3: Why are we not seeing these during the day? Again,

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Speaker 3: the sides of an suv, the sides of a small car.

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Speaker 3: You have to ask that question, who's inside them, Who's

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Speaker 2: And is our government really concerned or are they faking it?

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Speaker 3: You know, I I have you know they're going to

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Speaker 3: be concerned if its foreign adversaries.

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Speaker 2: I mean one one legislator said it's coming from an

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Speaker 2: Iranian ship off the east coast. That would be easy

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that it would be And I'll tell you that

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Speaker 3: detect whether or not it's an Iranian mothership off the

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Speaker 3: off the coast launching these drones. And it's not. We've

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Speaker 2: My god, people went crazy.

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Speaker 3: Right, and we shot that thing down on live television.

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Speaker 3: You know, we sent up our fighter jets shot it

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Speaker 3: telling us not to shoot these things down. Some of

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Speaker 2: Know, what's what's a friendly drone by the way.

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Speaker 3: Right right, So you know, but I want to address

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Speaker 3: the foreign adversaries thing. You know, based on the response

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Speaker 3: improbable that these things are from Russia or China or.

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Speaker 2: Iran, I would agree we would have had the navy

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, we would have seen a much more aggressive

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Speaker 3: Again twenty twenty three, the Chinese spy balloon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it leads me to believe that it could be ours. Now,

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Speaker 2: what's the purpose? Good question? I mean, is it, like

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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder all of this because what kind

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Speaker 2: of data could it be capturing that they can't get

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Speaker 3: Exactly? So I mean, okay, So the purpose behind these

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Speaker 3: mysterious sightings could be more ultifaceted, right, including testing the

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Speaker 3: and maybe even normalizing the presence of military grade drones.

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Speaker 3: In public spaces under these unusual contexts. Remember, Cliff High

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Speaker 3: made the prediction that on December third, which would have

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Speaker 3: been thirty nine days after the temporal trigger mechanism, which

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Speaker 3: going to see a slew of UFOs while we're seeing

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Speaker 3: them uips because we know that the drones, but they

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Speaker 3: It was in twenty twenty three when we were enthralled

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Speaker 3: back to your point, what's the purpose of it all?

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Speaker 3: It could be some sort of groundwork for conditioning us.

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Speaker 3: You know, we have been conditioned since the nineteen fifties

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Speaker 3: with all of the Flying Saucer movies. You remember the

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Speaker 3: the fifties to the sixties, to the seventies to the eighties,

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Speaker 3: we inodated with amazing science fiction movies, many of them,

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Speaker 3: you know, leveraging the storylines of UFOs what we now

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Speaker 3: called UAPs and NHI. You know, we don't ever call

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Speaker 3: them aliens or extraterrestrials, non human intelligences. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of stuff it sure is.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the hearings, Anthony. I

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Speaker 2: was not impressed with the one that we just had.

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Speaker 3: You, right, so in twenty twenty four, in comparison, so

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Speaker 3: what are the dark differences? Right, I would see that

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three we were blown away. You know.

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Speaker 3: We we knew about the tic Tac too tictac UFO,

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Speaker 3: but we wanted more information and we got it from

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Speaker 3: David Fraverer. You know, he gave us a first hand

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Speaker 3: account of the two thousand and four uss NIBS UFO incident.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I wrote a book called UFOs

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. That book has detailed sections on

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Speaker 3: graves of Fravor and Grush and I delve into the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three congressional hearings on UAPs. The major revelations

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three were the confirmation of non human

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Speaker 3: biologics associated with UAPs. Let's not forget that David Grush

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Speaker 3: Mussolini was communicating with his own military prior to communicating

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Speaker 3: actually have a photocopy of the one of the telegrams

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Speaker 3: We know about all these different you know, crash retrieval sites.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't think it's into twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four in a minute, but the macular constellation. But

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Speaker 3: what credible military witnesses. That was incredible. So yes, by

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Speaker 3: we learned about the introduction of the Immaculate Constellation Special

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Speaker 3: one thing about a maculate constellation. Way back in twenty

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Speaker 3: gentleman named c RW George, I vetted this guy with

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Speaker 3: X from two tho thousand and six carry cassidy for

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Speaker 3: video of it. This was a UFO archivist who says

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Speaker 3: physical elements, whether it's film or video, memorandums, documentation between

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Speaker 3: the government and aliens, and government and UFO crass retrievals.

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Speaker 3: But all of a sudden, everybody's acting all excited about

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Speaker 3: this immaculate constellation. George, you and I were on the

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Speaker 3: phone about this type of stuff over a decade ago.

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