Speaker 1: I don't like that people were speculating over Kendall Jenner's
Speaker 1: Is it sexuality or is it like gender partner choice?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right terminology is now, Like
Speaker 1: why literally leave her alone as a human who cares?
Speaker 1: And then she felt that she had to explain it,
Speaker 1: and I think it was something like she said, maybe
Speaker 1: I would be the woman if I was interested or not.
Speaker 1: It's like, literally so irrelevant, it doesn't matter. Why does
Speaker 1: anyone need to speculate on who Kendall Jenner wants to
Speaker 1: be with, not be with, sleep with, not sleep with.
Speaker 1: She could sleep with multiple people, five people, She could
Speaker 1: sleep with men, she could sleep with women, She could
Speaker 1: sep with men and women at the same time.
Speaker 2: Like why does? I don't know why?
Speaker 1: That just bothered me, Like a person feeling like they
Speaker 1: have to publicly discuss what gender they want to be
Speaker 1: in a relationship with. Like what if you like didn't know?
Speaker 1: What if you like both? What if you like nothing?
Speaker 1: What if you are asexual, don't like any of it?
Speaker 1: You like work, you're like your family? What if you
Speaker 1: don't like sex? What if you love sex? Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know why it just bothered me. I read something
Speaker 1: about it. I was like, why is it anyone's fucking
Speaker 1: business at all? And I know nothing's anyone's business because
Speaker 1: you're a public figure. That's a line. And it's like,
Speaker 1: now like outing someone, which is terrible. It's like bullying someone,
Speaker 1: Like let's pretend that she's in her own life, not
Speaker 1: sure what she wants. Let's pretend she's not sure. It's
Speaker 1: like bullying that she would feel the need to have
Speaker 1: to express any explanation to anyone about what she may
Speaker 1: or may not want to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just find that to be like where the line is,
Speaker 1: And I guess how do we opine on anything? The
Speaker 1: nose jump, someone got Jlo's bronze er blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's just different. It's just different. It's different because she's
Speaker 1: minding her own business. Because I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: just saw a video about like Jlo's bronzer at the
Speaker 1: Golden Globes. For whatever reason, it was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that shit happens every day. Oh what someone said was
Speaker 1: in their diet. Oh they're responsible. Oh Bethany doesn't eatch,
Speaker 1: doesn't swallow her food. Bethany has chlamydia of the face,
Speaker 1: which by the way, doesn't even exist at a bacteria
Speaker 1: infection and it's now gone. But like I put that
Speaker 1: out there, I talked about it, so you could fucking
Speaker 1: criticize me and call me a monster and say I
Speaker 1: have gonerrhea of the face, you know, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: She's mining her own business. Jlo went to the Golden
Speaker 1: Globes and she had bronze or on she whatever her
Speaker 1: outfit is, whatever she did that is out there for
Speaker 1: the world to see because she put it on display
Speaker 1: and she's gonna get all this press and it's going
Speaker 1: to elevate her game in some way, and she's a
Speaker 1: very famous woman and so like that's like open for discussion.
Speaker 1: That's what bothers me mad. She's mining your own business.
Speaker 1: She's not out selling a product and we're saying we
Speaker 1: don't like the product, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I've talked about Chloe's popcorn. I like Chloe's popcorn.
Speaker 1: I've talked about the LEMMI gummies, I've talked about whatever.
Speaker 1: I've talked about this one, that one skincare you name it,
Speaker 1: like it's out there, it's a product, it's out there
Speaker 1: for review. My skinning girl, Margarite is They're not mine anymore.
Speaker 1: You can comment you like it. I disagree with Bethany's review.
Speaker 1: I hate what she said. I hate her content. Sheche
Speaker 1: drew her mouth open, she did this, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: She put the guy out there, she put her husband
Speaker 1: on TV. Now we're gonna criticize the relationship. You brought
Speaker 1: us in here. You brought us with you. You can't
Speaker 1: bring us with you on the ride, like back to
Speaker 1: like anybody, anybody, like a j Lo or whatever. Like
Speaker 1: watching your relationship Kim and Kanye, they were everywhere. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's open season. Kendall Jenner is minding her own business.
Speaker 1: Who she's dating, her choice of partner is not up
Speaker 1: for discussion. She didn't start talking about someone she's dating
Speaker 1: or not dating. That's probably why I don't like it.
Speaker 1: I don't like that really bothered me. And she just
Speaker 1: seems to mind her own business. She's a model, she walks,
Speaker 1: she shows up on time, which people laughed and I
Speaker 1: said that by Alex Earl. I don't know why. It
Speaker 1: just seems like a professional who's nice. She's a model,
Speaker 1: she'd goes, she comes home. She's not out getting wasted partying.
Speaker 1: She seems like a serious person. Her house looks beautiful, lovely.
Speaker 1: She's the most under stated, the least outspoken. She's just
Speaker 1: mining her own fucking business. She seems quite elegant, truthfully.
Speaker 1: And to compound it, people are going after her because
Speaker 1: she said she hasn't had plastic surgery. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but I never thought she did have plastic surgery. And
Speaker 1: then people show her as a child to now. But
Speaker 1: don't people's faces change from thirteen to now? And that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter? And that, yes, I guess people can speculate
Speaker 1: about because she's out there. She's literally a model, and
Speaker 1: she said I never had plastic surgery, and people don't
Speaker 1: believe her.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. For whatever reason, I did believe her.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: Wasn't she's trying to be a model when she was young?
Speaker 1: Wasn't she always pretty?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: People's face has changed, people contour.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That is stupid. I shouldn't have said it because it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I'm just saying that's not the same
Speaker 1: as someone going after the other thing. I feel like people,
Speaker 1: most people like Tom Brady, don't they he is one
Speaker 1: of the ones that seems to mind his own business.
Speaker 1: I know people years ago there was like a problem
Speaker 1: with something with like the flake gate.
Speaker 2: I wasn't part of that. I don't know about it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't he seem like you're fucking nice, you know, disciplined quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone calls him the goat because he's the
Speaker 1: greatest of all time. But the point is the greatest
Speaker 1: of all time with all those super Bowl rings and
Speaker 1: all of that discipline and leadership really has to be
Speaker 1: a solid person, like you're not just like let's take
Speaker 1: to stand up comedy for example, or like the shit
Speaker 1: show of what I do. Like Chelsea is very talented,
Speaker 1: but like she can fuck around and like do well
Speaker 1: because of it, and so can I. Like, you know,
Speaker 1: you could throw a spaghetti against the wall, say something,
Speaker 1: tell a story, be chaotic, talk about being stone, et cetera. Whatever,
Speaker 1: But there's like a caliber to Tom Brady. There's a
Speaker 1: high caliber to Tom Brady that is like serious, man.
Speaker 1: You have to be smart to be a quarterback, is
Speaker 1: what I understand. You have to be intelligent and be
Speaker 1: playing chess with moves. You have to be incredibly disciplined,
Speaker 1: you have to be a leader, and it's not like
Speaker 1: a fluke.
Speaker 2: It's not like one season.
Speaker 1: You have to be a leader and you have to
Speaker 1: be respected by your community, your teammates. You have to
Speaker 1: be a team player, like I think sports and being
Speaker 1: an athlete. And I think the reason people like idolize.
Speaker 1: I once was out with Charles Barkley years ago at
Speaker 1: a club with some other people after meeting him at
Speaker 1: the Ashram and becoming friends with him, and like the
Speaker 1: I think it's called idolatry or the worship of an athlete.
Speaker 1: And yes, Charles Barkley is like a tall, big, you know,
Speaker 1: guy that you can't miss. He's got such a strong presence.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Tom Brady in person is like my
Speaker 1: I've seen him once. It's very tall and it's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: There's a presence that obviously you can't miss, and there's
Speaker 1: like a stature. But there's an idolatry. I think that's
Speaker 1: the word in a worship and a respect that goes
Speaker 1: with being a level of athlete, because in ways anyone
Speaker 1: can be famous. You don't need to possess like a
Speaker 1: god given talent and then hone that talent over the
Speaker 1: course of decades and days and workouts and to a
Speaker 1: day's and like, I don't know, I don't find anything
Speaker 1: boring about that at all. I find it to be
Speaker 1: so interesting and like so so deep and so inspiring
Speaker 1: and so polished and poised and to be respected. I
Speaker 1: met him once for a second at the Kentucky Derby,
Speaker 1: But like, I don't find that boring at all.
Speaker 2: I find that to be like genius.
Speaker 1: I find that to be a level of genius. I'm
Speaker 1: a fucking business gangster in many ways. Like I work
Speaker 1: my ass off. I work like the rent is due
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bounce checks even though I'm set for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life, you know, because I'm a worker.
Speaker 2: I grew up a worker.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it really came from, because no
Speaker 1: one told me to work. I was a hot walker,
Speaker 1: walking horses after they came off of the track, and
Speaker 1: I think I started it maybe either seven years old,
Speaker 1: maybe a little earlier. I worked at a bakery. I've
Speaker 1: done every job. I was a waitress, a cocktail waitress.
Speaker 1: I'm worker. And you cannot be the goat, and you
Speaker 1: cannot be the level of success of a Tom Brady
Speaker 1: without being an old school.
Speaker 2: Hard worker.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're famous or not famous, like
Speaker 1: you know people that are moms and friends, and like
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's a specimen. And I don't know, the least
Speaker 1: interesting thing about Tom Brady is that he's so good looking.
Speaker 1: That's like what people go for, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: why the Alex r Al thing with him was probably
Speaker 1: not she's beautiful and amazing, but it probably was belittling
Speaker 1: to him, Like he doesn't need to be reduced to
Speaker 1: just being like out and like fodder for you know
Speaker 1: people on TikTok, Like he's a legitimate athlete, a good
Speaker 1: world renowned, he's a he's a machine. His body is
Speaker 1: like an actual machine, not just because he's hot, because
Speaker 1: he's the man. And listen, like presidents respect that, you know,
Speaker 1: people who have worked in their entire life for a
Speaker 1: goal respect that. I think it's so texture, so layered,
Speaker 1: so interesting. And again I find him having been married
Speaker 1: to Giselle another like she's beautiful and seems nice.
Speaker 2: I don't know her, but like that's not the most
Speaker 2: interesting thing about him.
Speaker 1: He married a model, great, but like she worked her
Speaker 1: fucking ass off and was so successful, and he married
Speaker 1: another mobile, and like I said, I think he's a
Speaker 1: good parent and person, and I know people in common
Speaker 1: with him, and I find him to be very interesting,
Speaker 1: very dedicated, aspirational.
Speaker 2: There aren't that many people like that.
Speaker 1: I was just texting with Anastasia the Eyebrow Mobil and she's,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a gangster. I know many famous people
Speaker 1: that are successful and have a lot of money, but
Speaker 1: they're not like those types of gangsters. Like you know,
Speaker 1: Oprah's a gangster. Anastasia is a gangster. Tom Brady's a gangster.
Speaker 1: You know, like them or don't like them. People that
Speaker 1: have gotten themselves into office are gangsters. Major philanthropists that
Speaker 1: like really are running incredible organizations and helping people are gangsters.
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos is a fucking gangster, not because of his
Speaker 1: net worth, because of his like dedication mind and like
Speaker 1: hard work and consistency. But yeah, very serious athletes are gangsters.
Speaker 1: I congratulated Nannie Leeks for going back to Bravo because
Speaker 1: that's what makes her happy and that's what she wants
Speaker 1: to do, and I have a good relationship with Nanni Leeks.
Speaker 1: I really genuinely think everybody needs to do what they
Speaker 1: need to do yes. People need to do for themselves
Speaker 1: what they need to do financially, emotionally, their ego. To
Speaker 1: feel like you have purpose, to feel like you have relevance,
Speaker 1: to feel like you feel valued. Whatever it is, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it's not my business. People go back to
Speaker 1: ex husbands.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It is interesting and very unique because of the claims
Speaker 1: that she made against that network, because she was blackballed
Speaker 1: not only by them but by all of the production people.
Speaker 1: That there are very few business environments where you can
Speaker 1: accuse someone of whether it's drugs or racism or workplace
Speaker 1: violations or things like that, and come back from that
Speaker 1: and then work there again, not even from the person
Speaker 1: who's claiming it. I've never heard of that in my life.
Speaker 1: It's literally the first time I've ever heard of it.
Speaker 1: So it's just an interesting thing about like society, Like,
Speaker 1: can you give me another example of it. I've never
Speaker 1: heard of it, So I don't know if like, I
Speaker 1: don't remember what all the claims were, but I think
Speaker 1: they were pretty serious. And now she's doing a road
Speaker 1: trip show with Bravo. I have to do a TikTok
Speaker 1: on that. Please, Oh my god, that's hysterical. So Nick
Speaker 1: Jonas had what I think he referred to as an
Speaker 1: anxiety attack on the red carpet. That makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1: That makes perfect sense for someone who doesn't suffer from anxiety.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody suffers from anxiety. It doesn't even sound
Speaker 1: like this is something that happens to him all the time.
Speaker 1: It feels like in social situations, I know people. I
Speaker 1: know someone who doesn't even like drinking, but just drinks
Speaker 1: because it's like a social lubricant, he calls it. I
Speaker 1: thought that was interesting, And I don't love social situations
Speaker 1: in ways at times because I get anxiety. If like
Speaker 1: I'm not having fun and I don't want to be there,
Speaker 1: but I'm supposed to be. This happened to me a
Speaker 1: lot in same part. It's like I'm supposed to be
Speaker 1: Why orn' I like these other people like enjoying it
Speaker 1: in that way? Or activation? I get too activated. It's
Speaker 1: too activating. I imagine what happened to him on that carpet.
Speaker 1: It's not that he doesn't like it, it's not that
Speaker 1: he's not feeling good about himself. It's that it's activating,
Speaker 1: and it's structure. We have to be here, we have
Speaker 1: to be there. You got to put this on, you
Speaker 1: go to do that. You got to be there, you
Speaker 1: got to talk to this person, you got to stand there.
Speaker 1: Everything you do, it's like being on a reality show.
Speaker 1: Everything you do is going to be captured and analyzed.
Speaker 1: And you're standing next to your wife and one photographer's
Speaker 1: telling you come here and look there, and you're looking
Speaker 1: at them.
Speaker 2: You're trying to smile.
Speaker 1: You're self conscious that you know that you're nervous, and
Speaker 1: now you feel like you've sweat flying down your feet.
Speaker 1: Like it's literally I've said my goal in life is
Speaker 1: like just walk the met carpet, like to see if
Speaker 1: I could stick a look, like not to see if
Speaker 1: I could land the fucking look.
Speaker 2: I just want to walk down.
Speaker 1: I'll leave after I just I don't want to need
Speaker 1: to go inside on cbody. I just want to walk
Speaker 1: the carpet to see if I could do it, and
Speaker 1: I really think I could. But like that would be
Speaker 1: extremely super Bowl Olympics level. Nothing to do with would
Speaker 1: the pictures land, would you know? I mean that would
Speaker 1: be important. But like just the actual act of getting
Speaker 1: out of the car, which is not haphazard, it is
Speaker 1: completely scheduled, Like when a list celebrities are getting out
Speaker 1: of the car and like when they're doing the carpet
Speaker 1: and like how they're doing it. But like you look
Speaker 1: to j Lo and like she had to like turn
Speaker 1: her torso in a certain way for that dress that
Speaker 1: she probably planned a million times, or like the train
Speaker 1: has to be somewhere. I'd be so self conscious that
Speaker 1: someone like on the floor like moving the train because
Speaker 1: like everyone's seeing how the sausage gets made. Like I
Speaker 1: didn't walk in perfect Like used to be people wore
Speaker 1: a dressed got on the carpet. Now it's like people
Speaker 1: are like planning tents and like taking off like entire
Speaker 1: dresses and putting new ones on for Lady Gaga or
Speaker 1: like Blake Lively. Like it's a performance. It's like doing
Speaker 1: a performance. You're on a theatrical stage. It's the fucking
Speaker 1: biggest Game Hunt, Olympics of all time.
Speaker 2: So this was the Golden Globes. But like, wow, I would.
Speaker 1: Love to walk a carpet like that, Like I really
Speaker 1: would just to like see if I could find I mean,
Speaker 1: I did it once at the Emmys and I did
Speaker 1: land it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'd like to.
Speaker 1: Get invited to something fucking major that has like a
Speaker 1: complicated carpet with like stairs, not just like just a
Speaker 1: normal one, Like it's complicated and like tears and like
Speaker 1: layers and like bleachers of photographers. That's like the vanity
Speaker 1: fair parties like that, where it's like so orchestrated and organized,
Speaker 1: Like I want to go to one of those things
Speaker 1: where it's like I have to shit my pants in
Speaker 1: the car before I get out and like freak out,
Speaker 1: and then I feel badly. I feel badly that anyone's
Speaker 1: criticizing Jennifer Lopez's bronzer, by the way, she's known for bronzer,
Speaker 1: but like they're criticizing her bronzer. Someone was criticizing Kate
Speaker 1: Hudson's hairstyle combined with her dress, and I didn't even
Speaker 1: think of it, but when I saw it, I got
Speaker 1: it because her dress was so stunning and her hairstyle
Speaker 1: was so effortless that the dress needed like a more
Speaker 1: effort full hairstyle. Nicole Kidman years ago put HD powder.
Speaker 1: It no longer really is a big deal. They used
Speaker 1: to have it on makeup forever, like a white h
Speaker 1: she powder and it would, I guess, brighten under your eyes.
Speaker 1: But like they put it on her. It looked like
Speaker 1: there was like a bag of neon cocaine under her eyes.
Speaker 1: She looked like a weird It was like white like
Speaker 1: KABOOKI makeup. It was crazy, like to go all that
Speaker 1: way and get out there and stand there and like
Speaker 1: have something happen like fall or whatever. Like no, That's
Speaker 1: why every time, like a strapper, I'm just like can
Speaker 1: I just can it? Just can I you know, or
Speaker 1: to just have a hair fly on your face, like no,
Speaker 1: I want it all. I'm we're doing this like I
Speaker 1: need it to be per for these people. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter and it's superficial. But like if it takes so
Speaker 1: much time, so to Nick Jonas's point, like it is
Speaker 1: the whole day, it is dehydrating, like you're already starting
Speaker 1: to fucking think about it at nine o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: like people start their makeup at noon. Like the spackle
Speaker 1: and adult acne that like happens from that day. I
Speaker 1: give the Kardashians so much fucking credit. The carpets they walk,
Speaker 1: the way they do it.
Speaker 2: It is that alone.
Speaker 1: Just the carpets they walk that j Loo does and
Speaker 1: they do is a full time job. It is so overwhelming. Yes,
Speaker 1: you have a team of artists, whatever, it's still it's
Speaker 1: the big game. As the woman said in Bad Moms,
Speaker 1: Christmas as a what's her name Christine Baranski said about
Speaker 1: like Christmas being the big show, Like it's the big show.
Speaker 1: I've only done the big show, like where it applied
Speaker 1: to me. I think like once like been to massive
Speaker 1: movie premieres, done things, but like only been to like
Speaker 1: a big show, like maybe a couple of times. Speaking
Speaker 1: of the big show, Nikki Glazer, I didn't watch I
Speaker 1: watched clips.
Speaker 2: First of all, she.
Speaker 1: Looked beautiful, Like the red dress was gorgeous.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: Like she's a comedian and gets to be the belle
Speaker 1: of the ball there. She's not the actor, she's not
Speaker 1: won any awards, she's hosting, but like she got to
Speaker 1: be the belle of the ball in a different way
Speaker 1: than even like a Tina Fey like it was more
Speaker 1: like it was more girly and like the big pink
Speaker 1: princess dress and the red dress.
Speaker 2: And I like her. I think she's cool.
Speaker 1: I've had sort of like a back and forth textual
Speaker 1: relationship with her for a while. I think she's been Yes,
Speaker 1: she has been on my podcast. We know each other,
Speaker 1: we like each other, we respect each other. And I
Speaker 1: remember her from when she wasn't at this level, and like,
Speaker 1: good for fucking her, good for her for being funny.
Speaker 2: Oh, and that's what it was.
Speaker 1: I love the comedic craft when you kind of can
Speaker 1: see the work. So if you see Jerry Seinfelder, Chris
Speaker 1: Rock or Chappelle, you know that they have worked on
Speaker 1: their act and you know that they have all this
Speaker 1: you know, scriptive material and these jokes, et cetera. And yes,
Speaker 1: there's work, and yes, the whole I'm not comparing so
Speaker 1: to speak, Yes, the whole entire are doing a two
Speaker 1: hour standup comedy thing takes an incredible amount of work.
Speaker 1: But like the layering of the jokes with Nikki the
Speaker 1: second part, like when she was talking about Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan and then she should she knows his mom, but
Speaker 1: then she shouldn't that Like it's like a one, it's
Speaker 1: then a one, A A one B A one C.
Speaker 1: There are like sub jokes to the joke, responses to
Speaker 1: what might happen if the crowd responds in a certain way.
Speaker 2: It's like chess.
Speaker 1: She's a comedian when she's doing these hosting gigs and
Speaker 1: she's really playing chess. And I'm not saying that Billy
Speaker 1: Crystal and all the other greats haven't done it phenomenally,
Speaker 1: Ricky Gervais, et cetera. It's just different. There's a way
Speaker 1: that she does it that has a specific art form
Speaker 1: and it's layered and like I said, it's got like
Speaker 1: a it's like a capital A and then a one
Speaker 1: and then a one, A one B one c. Like
Speaker 1: it's just it's just there's an art to it that
Speaker 1: comes through most. Don't let to the answer, don't us
Speaker 1: to the conser