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Speaker 1: dp's show case. You're watching soccer today? There was an upset.

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Speaker 1: It was Japan and Germany and Japan surprising Germany with

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Speaker 1: us to Roger Bennett, founder of Men and Blazer's network

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Speaker 1: coming up in a moment, and we'll get to your

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Speaker 1: phone calls as well. Yes, now, Roger Bennett's originally from England,

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Speaker 1: but did we acquired him so he would be an

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Speaker 1: American citizen? Yes? And Rebecca Lowe, formerly English, Yes, is

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Speaker 1: American citizens? Yes? Can they honestly root for Team USA

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Speaker 1: of Chicago, right, PAULI, he's more American than some of us. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's just got an you know, English accent. That's it.

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Speaker 1: You're reading more into this than anyone I'd ever encountered before.

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Speaker 1: What's the poll question? Why is it a pond? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Just sometimes these things hit me. And

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Speaker 1: then I asked a question. Okay, all right, pumpkin pie

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Speaker 1: heading to Philadelphia and Washington, DC. Tickets available now at

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Speaker 1: men in Blazers dot com and also pick up a

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Speaker 1: you've lost everybody because now you have put the coach,

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Speaker 1: you have put management into position to answer that question correctly,

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Speaker 1: and everyone knows you did, and it was a chance

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Speaker 1: for him to own it. And then the mercy rule

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Speaker 1: kicks in. You know how it goes when you're playing

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Speaker 1: the dozens with your friends, or you're in a position

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Speaker 1: where you're gonna get called out if you do the

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Speaker 1: eight mile. If you talk about yourself first, then they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be nicer to you in response to talking about

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Speaker 1: your production, your effort. But what he did was act like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm exempt from all the ills from that performance. That

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Speaker 1: is a team effort. And guys are looking at him like, dude,

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Speaker 1: we did our part. You didn't do your part. So

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Speaker 1: since he didn't own up to that, they had to

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Speaker 1: go out there and make sure he's not the starter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't lose the locker room because of one guy.

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Speaker 1: And if he's that sensitive to criticism and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: bench him, I've heard analysts say, oh, you can't do it,

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Speaker 1: you might lose him. Well, if I lose him over this,

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Speaker 1: then a really losing him. No, that's good maths Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what school everyone went to, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather lose one than fifty two. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just that simple. Fifty two guys are sitting there

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Speaker 1: looking at him. Everything he says, it's starting to sound

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Speaker 1: Charlie Brown wah wah wah, because we're not listening to

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson anymore, and he's certainly not gonna lead us

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Speaker 1: consistently with his production. So it's like, now a coach

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Speaker 1: do the easy thing. It's not even a hard decision.

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Speaker 1: Listen to your player's inner voice, and now express that

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Speaker 1: of Fame list the class of twenty twenty three. So

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Speaker 1: it's just yes or no. Okay, all right, I get

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Speaker 1: five in total. Are we doing this or just yes

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Speaker 1: or no? Okay? Eric Allen no, Jared Allen yes, Willie

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Speaker 1: Anderson yes, Ronde Barber no. Oh, I know that's tough.

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Speaker 1: I know, An Kwan Bolden no, Henry Ellard no, London

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Speaker 1: Fletcher yes, surprisingly, Dwight Freeney, oh, hell yeah, stop playing.

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Speaker 1: James Harrison yes, Rodney Harrison no, definitely that hurt. Devin Hester. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's a good thing. We don't have just find for you.

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Speaker 1: And that's the toughest part about it all day. And

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Speaker 1: it's like they all qualified to some degree to be

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Speaker 1: You almost gotta like disrespect to get him in because

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Speaker 1: everybody can't be a Hall of Fame. But go back

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Speaker 1: to Rodney Harrison. How much does this have to do

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Speaker 1: with testing positive for PDS? Wow, you went there first.

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Speaker 1: I went to San Diego first. And the lack of

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, the lack of team success despite them still

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Speaker 1: going to one Super Bowl. I remember when I became

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Speaker 1: a Charger, and that was the story about Rodney. Great player,

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Speaker 1: but not fully respected or fully understood from the world

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Speaker 1: at large, like football players are like, Yo, he's a beast,

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Speaker 1: And then everybody else was like, yeah, if he's a beast,

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Speaker 1: why doesn't he have ABC. So I always knew that

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Speaker 1: that would come back to haunt him. But of course

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Speaker 1: the PDS, you know how I feel about that. Once

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Speaker 1: you're on the PDS, you uhould be on the baseball

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Speaker 1: This in terms of being but Rodney went one of

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Speaker 1: two players in the history of the game with at

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Speaker 1: least thirty sacks and thirty interceptions. Yeah, I wonder how

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Speaker 1: many would have had without the pd Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: get it, like you, you're still a great player. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know how much the nitress helped you. And

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Speaker 1: since I don't know that answer, I guess can't be

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Speaker 1: the guy in position to gift you a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame candidacy. But then Antonio Gates in there if if

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Speaker 1: you know, he's denied it, but he got suspended. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Gay Gates Gates, Rodney, you got a little Charger section

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Speaker 1: over there, guys, just put him all over there. I

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Speaker 1: love all those guys, but can't do it. Tory Holt

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Speaker 1: the closest, No, I have like almost a yes, Andre Johnson, yes,

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Speaker 1: Albert Lewis No, Robert Mathis no. Close close, close, close close.

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Speaker 1: You can't put everybody in there. Durrell reevs. Yes, Steve

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Speaker 1: Smith Senior. I thought I had the closest. Note. Yes, Um,

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Speaker 1: he's really winning by every time you talk to him

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Speaker 1: or listen to him broadcasts. Help. But I would have

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Speaker 1: to say, no, my Hall of Fame note, Fred Taylor,

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Speaker 1: that's my boy. Um, he was a monster who got

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Speaker 1: he got so underappreciated you want to put him in

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Speaker 1: just to get his flowers. Let me just say, yes,

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Speaker 1: I got the one in there. Yes. Joe Thomas, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 1: by by far the easiest. Yes. Yes, Zach Thomas, yes,

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Speaker 1: but the second easiest. Yes, that dude was silly. Hinz Ward. No,

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Speaker 1: look at the whole NBC family. You're like, no, you

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Speaker 1: don't like anybody on there. Uh no, Chris Collins, but no,

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Speaker 1: I've just um DeMarcus Ware yes, Ricky Waters no, Reggie

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Speaker 1: Wayne yeah, yeah yeah nah no no, no, okay no,

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Speaker 1: Vince Wilfork. Yeah. Really, it's hard to measure what he

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Speaker 1: had to do it. Okay, that's the problem. Patrick Willis, Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: my god, quick too. He did it fast. Darren Woodson

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Speaker 1: mm hmmm, yes, yes, no, No, lait was too long there,

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Speaker 1: it was long because Roddy Harrison was this in my ear? Like, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna let Darren was it in and not being

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Speaker 1: Arren anchored some amazing teams on top of being an

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Speaker 1: amazing player. All right, what do you expect to happen?

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Speaker 1: And needs Thanksgiving? Like, the biggest surprise is gonna be

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Speaker 1: where in these three games? Ah, let's stay with the

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Speaker 1: Giants and Dallas one. What a matchup. You know a

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Speaker 1: But this one you're gonna be alert for. The biggest

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Speaker 1: felt slighted. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family and

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Speaker 1: proud to have you on the program and the podcast network. Marcellis,

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Speaker 1: What we learned, what's in store coming up the next

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Speaker 1: couple of days. Let's see. The Hall of Fame list

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Speaker 1: for you. Uh, the final results of the poll question

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Speaker 1: It's not even close. Fifty one percent USA England though,

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Speaker 1: And we only have three pies? So that was the problem.

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Speaker 1: And yeah I needed some more pies. But you're gonna

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Speaker 1: Goodness for that. Uh this day in sports history Paulie

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, the Washington Senators, the baseball team announced

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Speaker 1: had moved to Texas and become the Texas Rangers. Let's

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Speaker 1: see the new mmmm. Nineteen eighty eight, Wayne Gretzky sort

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Speaker 1: scored a six hundredth NHL goal. Here's one for your

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Speaker 1: Kings Day. In nineteen eighty one, the King's end of

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Speaker 1: the NBA's longest ever road losing streak at forty three games.

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Speaker 1: And then in nineteen eighty four, What a great game

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Speaker 1: this was. Boston College defeated Miami forty seven forty five

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Speaker 1: on quarterback Doug Flutie's last second pass. Here's how it sounded. No,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Here's your ball game, boy, Fluty take you.

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Speaker 1: He dropped a straight back has sometime hour scrambled away

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Speaker 1: from one hit. Look un quirks a deep one for

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Speaker 1: the end zone, bailing it down there, Hi, yeah, get it,

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Speaker 1: Thank god, gang colleague, he get it, get it, he

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Speaker 1: got I don't believe blot playling. Hey won the Heisman

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Speaker 1: with that performance that day through for four hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy two yards and the win against Miami. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the great Dan Davis. Yes, and the Duke Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Duke Davis with the with the call there, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Paul Brent Musburger was doing the TV call of that

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Speaker 1: one on National TV. All right, little I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: out five bonus points for whoever could tell me who

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Speaker 1: else I was behind Doug Flutie and the Heisman voting

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Speaker 1: that year, the nineteen eighty four Heisman voting a second, third, fourth,

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Speaker 1: Who wants to take a shot, pretty big names, Benny

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Speaker 1: Chester verdie Oh no, I think that's one year later.

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Speaker 1: That's a good guess. Okay, there's a guy from Miami,

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Speaker 1: a guy from BYU, and a guy from Ohhouse State

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Speaker 1: finished second, third and fourth. Well, that's nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 1: That Dorsey Um second place, Keith Buyers of Ohio States

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Speaker 1: and twenty two touchdowns now Robbie Bosco of Biyu and

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Speaker 1: Bernie Kosar Miami. Oh, I should have gotten Bernie. I'll

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Speaker 1: hear from Bernie now, how could you not get me?

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Speaker 1: That's good, good stuff. Bucky in Indiana, Hey, Buck BP

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Speaker 1: six foot two o nine. Gone back from Indianapolis last

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Speaker 1: night about ten thirty and there was a package on

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Speaker 1: my front door and it was the moonshine. It was phenomenal. Up.

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Speaker 1: Called some neighbors up. They all came over. I need

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Speaker 1: a new bottle. Yeah, well, good luck with that because

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Speaker 1: we're all out. But Bucky, thank you. Once we get

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Speaker 1: the next batch. We've already gone through two batches, and

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Speaker 1: we'll let you know when we get that third batch

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Speaker 1: of Tailgate moonshine. By the way, on this day, on

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Speaker 1: this night, this person made a catch that many considered

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Speaker 1: to be, if not the greatest catch, one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest catches in the history of the NFL. Is on

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Speaker 1: this night. Yep, Yeah, I saw a clip of it

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. I didn't realize that the defensive back

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Speaker 1: was at the Cowboys. Yeah, he grabbed his jersey pass

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Speaker 1: interference called on the play. Yeah, I wonder if that

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Speaker 1: because of the timing of the game and the audience

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Speaker 1: had probably had if that outlets, that added to the

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Speaker 1: lore of how great yea catch was? I think absolutely

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Speaker 1: like that that venue, that environment, that stage, yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: And to do it against the Cowboys. By the way,

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Speaker 1: on this date, this person won the Heisman with a

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Speaker 1: single play. Well, it's based off the entire season, but

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Speaker 1: this person won the Heisman with one play setons Desmond Howard,

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Speaker 1: come on down. He struck the Heisman pose in the

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Speaker 1: end zone Michigan with the win against Ohio State thirty

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Speaker 1: one three. Do I have anything else in here? No,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's all my five got. Brad and North Carolina. Hi, Brad, ABP,

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Speaker 1: I have a thanksgiving favor to ask of you, as

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Speaker 1: a long suffering North Carolina fan. Can you please stop

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Speaker 1: the narrative about Drake May. To the love of Christ,

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Speaker 1: do you realize what I've been through in my forty

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Speaker 1: one year Brad? I apologize. My job is to be unbiased,

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Speaker 1: and I just threw out what would happen? What would

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Speaker 1: happen if Drake May said, you know what, let me

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Speaker 1: just see what I'm worth, just like Caleb Williams did

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Speaker 1: leaving Oklahoma. Yes, one team still looks great on the field,

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Speaker 1: though they do uniforms are just they'll go back to

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Speaker 1: six and five next year. We do not We do

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Speaker 1: not know who's starting for the Jets. We do know

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Speaker 1: who's not starting for the Jets. Zach Wilson will not

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Speaker 1: start against the Bears. Not sure if Mike White or

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco gets the calling against what if. Robert Salo,

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Speaker 1: the head coach of the Jet scot before the meeting,

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Speaker 1: is not him, and he pointed to we don't know

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Speaker 1: who it is yet. Uh. I want to thank the

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Speaker 1: By the way, we found out Mike White is going

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Speaker 1: to start for your New York Jets. Let's go. They

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Speaker 1: to the US Marv David Pollock will be calling boosters

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Speaker 1: for Drake May. Paulie Pollock doesn't like this. Know the

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