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<v Speaker 1>Ephemeral is production of my Heart three D audio for

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<v Speaker 1>full exposure. Listen with that phones. If you were wind

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<v Speaker 1>to the nineteen eighties and nineties, video stores were everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>They came in different shapes and sizes, states of cleanliness,

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<v Speaker 1>and levels of cool. But they had one thing in common,

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<v Speaker 1>racks and racks of videotapes. But now, with thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>titles available to stream at the click of a button,

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<v Speaker 1>what does a physical store they have to offer? A

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<v Speaker 1>shopping destination, a bit of nostalgia, just a memory Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Ephemeral producer Trevor Young traces the rise, fall, and potential

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<v Speaker 1>future of the video store. When I was about eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine, my mom started taking me to a local

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<v Speaker 1>video store in Austin, Texas called I Love Video. Up

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<v Speaker 1>to that point, my idea of cinema was Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 1>The Phantom Menace. I've been wondering, what are mini chlorines?

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<v Speaker 1>The Iglorians are a microscopic life form that resides with

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<v Speaker 1>an old living sounds. I don't understand, but I love video.

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<v Speaker 1>I was exposed to a vast library of old timey classics.

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<v Speaker 1>But what about us? We'll always had Paris horror flicks,

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<v Speaker 1>ethereal dramas. Mr Malcolm, I think I can explain, Yeah, explain.

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<v Speaker 1>We operate a little business here that simulates for our

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<v Speaker 1>clientele the experience of being you actually and all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of movies, so that by the time I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school, I had developed a deep love for cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>I always credit I Love Video for that. The place

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<v Speaker 1>meant a lot to me, and without a doubt, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not alone in my experience. It's hard to overstate the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of the space of the video store. Whether it

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<v Speaker 1>was a shabby place, or whether it was a glitzy blockbuster,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether it was a kind of quirky, artsy, fartzy

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<v Speaker 1>place with memorabilia or whatever. The space of the store

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<v Speaker 1>is hugely important because it's a social space and a

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<v Speaker 1>physical space, creating this new sense of a physical relationship

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<v Speaker 1>of shopping with movies. My name's Daniel Herbert, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an associate professor at the Universe of Michigan in the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Film, Television and Media, and i am the

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<v Speaker 1>author of Video Land, Movie Culture at the American Video Store.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan's book, Video Land taps into something many of us

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<v Speaker 1>have likely felt at some point that going into a

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<v Speaker 1>video store is unlike any other movie going experience. At

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<v Speaker 1>the movie theater. You would go and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>might shot up to the extent that you pick one

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<v Speaker 1>of the four films that are playing in the theater,

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<v Speaker 1>but then you buy a ticket and you sit down

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of have this consumption experience, whereas you

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch a movie at the store. The store is

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<v Speaker 1>all about shopping and contemplation and interacting with the physical

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<v Speaker 1>objects of the shelves and the tapes, interacting with the

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<v Speaker 1>physical bodies of the other shoppers and the clerks, and

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<v Speaker 1>interacting socially with whoever you're there with, your family, your date,

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<v Speaker 1>other shoppers seeing what they're watching. In terms of transforming

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<v Speaker 1>movie culture, it made movies shoppable. Come to the warehouse,

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<v Speaker 1>movies you want what do you want them? With? The

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse movie Rebel Garotte. The retailing of movies creates a

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<v Speaker 1>public forum for that kind of evaluation of movie taste,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes that's announced right when you're talking. So much

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<v Speaker 1>of that was also invisible that you'd like walk and

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<v Speaker 1>you look at a tape and you say that's not

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<v Speaker 1>for me, And that's like this momentary, ephemeral interaction with

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<v Speaker 1>an object in a store like me. Dan also has

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<v Speaker 1>fond memories of his childhood video stores, even if some

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<v Speaker 1>of them were a little readier than others. I grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in a small kind of working class town on

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<v Speaker 1>the south side of Detroit, and we got a video

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<v Speaker 1>store there actually quite early, like eight three, eight four,

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<v Speaker 1>and this was a classic junkie mom and pop shop

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<v Speaker 1>and a totally beat up strip mall. That particular place

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<v Speaker 1>had carpet on the walls and it was just gross,

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<v Speaker 1>and the shelves were like, you know, handcrafted wood with

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<v Speaker 1>stapled carpet on him. And I remember like it was

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<v Speaker 1>totally fascinating and amazing to go in there and to

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<v Speaker 1>see all the boxes, especially because in those days horror

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<v Speaker 1>films were big, cheap action films were big, and those

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<v Speaker 1>things had crazy lurid covers. The following movie is rated.

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<v Speaker 1>Are so just to being a kid with very protective

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<v Speaker 1>parents seeing like slasher movie covers and like action movie covers,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is a world of amazement my family,

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<v Speaker 1>Like every other family, movie rental just became habit. Every weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>two or three movies, if not on week days. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gen X and I grew up in a suburb without

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<v Speaker 1>an art house theater. So like my introduction to like

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<v Speaker 1>quality cinema, specialty cinema, indie stuff, foreign films, like my

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cinephilia was fed by videotape rather than by

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<v Speaker 1>an art house theater. When I saw things like eraser Head,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you are ship? Or drug store cowboy guys got

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<v Speaker 1>new blues? Well, no, you know how odd it is

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<v Speaker 1>to get blues these days, David, how about some morphine?

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<v Speaker 1>I got some good old morphine, and I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>the glimmer that film could be more than just Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everyone, You know that's set a trajectory for

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<v Speaker 1>my whole life, making me think, like eventually that I

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<v Speaker 1>could study films as a kind of serious thing. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear Dan mentioned David Lynch's a racer Head a few

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<v Speaker 1>times throughout this episode, and there's a reason for that.

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<v Speaker 1>A racer Head demonstrates one way in which home video

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<v Speaker 1>was so valuable to film culture. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>super weird movie, like even by weird movie standards. I

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<v Speaker 1>had an operation on my arm here. Doctors said I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to use it. What the hell do they? Know,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, And I rubbed it for a half hour

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and pretty soon I had my arm back again.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think the history of that film in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of its being so exclusive, right, like it played

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<v Speaker 1>in midnight screenings in l A and New York, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, it's this kind of underground thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get access to it if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>in a big city, if you don't have like a

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<v Speaker 1>midnight movie screening, And with home video you could see

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<v Speaker 1>a racer head if you lived in suburban Detroit. There's

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<v Speaker 1>lots of cases to from the eighties, even where you

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<v Speaker 1>have things that were failures in theaters, but home video

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<v Speaker 1>provided this lifespan. Officer k D six Stash three dot seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's begin, ready, we sell your base and blood and

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<v Speaker 1>black nothingness began to spin like we would not have

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<v Speaker 1>Blade Runner if it weren't for home video, because Blade

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<v Speaker 1>Runner did not do well in theaters, but home video

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<v Speaker 1>kept it alive. We create a cushion pillow for their

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and consequently we can control them them memories. You're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about memories, and then then you have a director's cut,

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<v Speaker 1>so there'd be a new home video release and so

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<v Speaker 1>you have a film that was absolutely a failure in theaters,

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<v Speaker 1>but whose legacy has been enormous, and that's entirely because

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<v Speaker 1>of home video and the way home video can increase

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<v Speaker 1>reputations even for films that did badly in theaters. But

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays you can probably find a racer Head and Blade

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<v Speaker 1>Runner on some online streaming service. It's likely a surprise

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<v Speaker 1>to no one. The video stores have been closing down

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<v Speaker 1>left and right for over a decade. According to USA Today,

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<v Speaker 1>between two thousand seven and two thousand seventeen, the number

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<v Speaker 1>of US video stores dropped eight from over fifteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>to just two thousand. Dan saw this coming a while

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<v Speaker 1>back and knew that someone had to document this. Two nine,

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<v Speaker 1>it was clear that the industry was changing dramatically. Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>had just begun streaming in two thousand eight. One book

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<v Speaker 1>came out, a very good book by Joshua Greenberg called

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<v Speaker 1>from Databacks to Blockbuster. But I knew that, like, I

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<v Speaker 1>could do a very different kind of book, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do a very different kind of book. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I knew immediately that I was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of documenting something that was on its way out.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had the sense that it was like timely,

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<v Speaker 1>and so then by like two thousand ten or eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>when I really did know that this was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a book. By that point, you know, Hollywood Video

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<v Speaker 1>Movie Gallery went on a business, and so I did

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<v Speaker 1>know that in fact, what I was doing was documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>something that was still vibrant but certainly didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of life left. So there was an urgency to

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<v Speaker 1>the research. Urgent because it was clear that like everything

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<v Speaker 1>was changing very dramatically, and people were adopting streaming more

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<v Speaker 1>and more, and video stores were just disappearing. Dan's research

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<v Speaker 1>went all the way back to the beginning of home video.

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<v Speaker 1>It all started with one of the first home video formats,

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<v Speaker 1>Beta Max, which came around in the mid seventies. But

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<v Speaker 1>home video at that point was something very different. In

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<v Speaker 1>those early days of Beta Max and then a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years later with vh Yes, those things were marketed

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<v Speaker 1>and conceived of as being for television, for recording television

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<v Speaker 1>programs and playing them at your own convenience. People could

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<v Speaker 1>watch soap operas in the evening rather than during the day,

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<v Speaker 1>or one could watch Magnum p I, you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>a Saturday morning rather than on Thursday night and you

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<v Speaker 1>can fast forward to the commercials, which, of course is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why Hollywood was so upset by it,

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<v Speaker 1>because it disturbed a business model. The manufacturers didn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>think of these things initially as vehicles for delivering prerecorded

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<v Speaker 1>movie content, but quickly entrepreneurs in the United States thought

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<v Speaker 1>of that. One of those entrepreneurs was Andre Blair. Blay

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<v Speaker 1>is often credited as the father of home video, and

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, Blay lived and worked in a

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<v Speaker 1>place not far from Dan Incidentally, very strange that I

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<v Speaker 1>up in the same town that Andre Blais was operating.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually here in southeast Michigan, in a town called Farmington,

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<v Speaker 1>where I lived. He had already been in the business

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<v Speaker 1>of kind of magnetic tape like duplication for like the

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<v Speaker 1>auto industry, doing like educational videos and things like that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what would happen when driving under the influence

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<v Speaker 1>of alcohol. Let's imagine you're driving and haven't taken alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch out for that deliverymand Your rapid perception of the

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<v Speaker 1>situation and quick break reaction prevented what could have been

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<v Speaker 1>a fatal accident. Part of his insight was that he

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<v Speaker 1>was already in the business of selling prerecorded content to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain market, but that prerecorded content was not Hollywood movies,

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<v Speaker 1>and the market was not general consumers. In seventy so,

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<v Speaker 1>the same year that the VHS format hits North America,

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<v Speaker 1>he approached all the Hollywood studios saying, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>put your movies on tape and sell them to individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>like private consumers. The only studio that I heard from

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty century Fox. We had a nice conversation then

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<v Speaker 1>he hadn't been a list of a hundred motivase and

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<v Speaker 1>said that we've cleared the home video rights to these.

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<v Speaker 1>I made them. We had fifty titles, and we released

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<v Speaker 1>all fifty titles at once. He paid like hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of dollars for the right to put a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of old Fox movies on tape, and he tried to

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<v Speaker 1>mandate that people could not rent them because he really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to kind of keep control of the sale and

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<v Speaker 1>make it a a kind of a direct sale thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>these things were like eight hundred bucks. But still people

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<v Speaker 1>kind of defied him, and video stores immediately appeared in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California and New York City and in southeast Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a place called Thomas Video, and they remember

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<v Speaker 1>driving across town and getting tapes directly from Blade. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fun to think about what the first video store was.

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<v Speaker 1>Different people claim that, but they all pop up very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>one after the other instead seven, and then that sets

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing in motion. So it was certainly an

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<v Speaker 1>exciting thing, and people were opening video stories left and right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the industry really exploded in a D three after

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<v Speaker 1>the VCR prices they dropped from like seven dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>three dollars, which, of course in a D three was

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<v Speaker 1>still very expensive, but affordable to a middle class, working

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<v Speaker 1>class family. While video stores were starting to spring up,

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<v Speaker 1>there was still debate about which video format to use.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of us think VHS when we think about video tapes,

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<v Speaker 1>but in those early days of home video, Beta max

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<v Speaker 1>was still dominant, if only for a short period. Beta

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<v Speaker 1>tapes were smaller than vhs, and the first Beta tapes

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<v Speaker 1>were only an hour long, kind of conceived of to

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<v Speaker 1>again record television programs, but they put movies on them

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<v Speaker 1>and you would rent and it would come with two

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<v Speaker 1>Beta tapes. VCRs were these top loading things. The thing

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<v Speaker 1>would like lift up in this clunk and then you

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<v Speaker 1>put it in and then it's like sync down into

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<v Speaker 1>the machine and it was like, you know, almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a real to real playing inside there, spinning the dials

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<v Speaker 1>inside the tape. The format war between VHS and Beta

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<v Speaker 1>was real. And so you go into a video store

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<v Speaker 1>in those days and they might have a thousand videos total.

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<v Speaker 1>Four hundred would be BEATA and six VHS. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a real kind of debate for store owners and for renters,

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<v Speaker 1>and certainly for people who were dropping hundreds of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>on the machines trying to guess, like what format is

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<v Speaker 1>the right format. Thanks to Sony's revolutionary Beta Max deck,

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<v Speaker 1>which hooks up to any TV set, now you can

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<v Speaker 1>automatically videotape your favorite show even when you're not home,

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<v Speaker 1>and watch it any time you would. Good morning, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going home to watch the Light show. Beta Max

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<v Speaker 1>was a higher fidelity visually and sonically right, so the

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<v Speaker 1>picture quality was slightly better than VHS and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the sound quality was better, and that was part of

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<v Speaker 1>their claim to fame. But eventually VHS just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>took over, and then the network effect kicks in and

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<v Speaker 1>more stores have more VHS tapes than data VHS, the

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<v Speaker 1>four hour system from Panasonic and other leading companies. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a consumer, you're thinking, well, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>buy a beta tape because I only have these options

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to VHS, which has these options. The video

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<v Speaker 1>store market took off fast. According to the Associated Press,

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<v Speaker 1>there were over fifteen thousand video stores in the US alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Home video the VCR and having a movie on tape

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<v Speaker 1>transforms the movie viewing experience in incredible ways. One it

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<v Speaker 1>puts it in the home. Of course, people have been

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<v Speaker 1>accustomed to watching movies at home on television, but movies

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<v Speaker 1>didn't appear when you wanted them necessarily, and so home

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<v Speaker 1>video exploded. The idea that consumers had this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>amazing control over what they watched, when they watched, and

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<v Speaker 1>the convenience of watching it at home in the video

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<v Speaker 1>store plays into that because with the rental model, these

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<v Speaker 1>were kind of temporary transactions but offering tons of choices.

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<v Speaker 1>If it had been a cell through model only, then

0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>people would have been like kind of stuck with whatever

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<v Speaker 1>hundred tapes they bought. But with the rental stores, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even the worst video stores had five hundred titles or more.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, the warehouse guarantees you can rent a Big Crocodile,

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<v Speaker 1>Dundee Too, and Cocktail starring Tom Cruise. If we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a copy available, we'll give you a coupon for

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<v Speaker 1>a free rental for one of these three hit movies.

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<v Speaker 1>That sense of catering to individual tastes and desires that

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<v Speaker 1>really comes about with home video and the video store

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<v Speaker 1>being the literal market for taste. Consumers could get what

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted, when they wanted, where they wanted. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a transformation, I mean your transformation. Not only did video

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<v Speaker 1>stores offer a new sort of convenience, they were also

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<v Speaker 1>unique spaces in themselves. The early video stores, they were

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<v Speaker 1>just reflections of the quirky personalities of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>owned them. High Video Sam's got exciting news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You can now rent a video over night and high

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<v Speaker 1>are these great movies from only nine cents Video Sam's

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<v Speaker 1>libraries and convenient to you. They were just small, little

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<v Speaker 1>retail shops, often rapidly put together by people who might

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<v Speaker 1>not have had any previous experience in business. Now there

0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.359
<v Speaker 1>were lots of things that tried to professionalize the business,

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<v Speaker 1>and like there's a whole industry around people who made

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<v Speaker 1>shelves for video stores and sold it to individuals, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were people who you know, specialized in security systems

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<v Speaker 1>for the doorway and things like that. The point is

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<v Speaker 1>is that prior to Blockbuster, there was a huge range

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<v Speaker 1>of what the stories would look like. Some were super clean,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of corporate looking. Others were just totally funky and weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You've come around ALREADYO per parad or neary you are,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it really depended on the individual owner. You

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<v Speaker 1>have those independently owned stories that really did try to

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<v Speaker 1>foster eclecticism as its own special value. You know, those

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<v Speaker 1>art house video stores would hold everything from ed Wood

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<v Speaker 1>a fiend I am a soldier of our planet, I

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<v Speaker 1>a fiend to Felini. It's about those stories that had

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<v Speaker 1>huge selections, way beyond Blockbuster, and not just huge, but

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<v Speaker 1>intention the outside of the mainstream alternative I guess. And

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<v Speaker 1>that alternative might be highbrow, and that alternative might be

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<v Speaker 1>super low brow. But it would only be a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of time before corporate movie chains entered the business. For

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<v Speaker 1>a short period from the late seventies to mid eighties,

0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:32.879
<v Speaker 1>independent video stores were thriving but then the most iconic

0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 1>video store emerged. Imagine the perfect video store. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have a great run right over, ten thousand videos, three

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<v Speaker 1>evening rows, so no rush, no hassles cha, twenty four hour,

0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.840
<v Speaker 1>quick drop return, open late every night. Well, the perfect

0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>video store. Blockbuster really hits the scene starting eight seven

0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>and then taking off through blow And they've got this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cookie cutter model that every Blockbuster might be

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<v Speaker 1>slightly different in terms of arrangement, but they all look

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<v Speaker 1>the same. They've all got the same color scheme, they've

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<v Speaker 1>all got the same sign and so this idea as

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<v Speaker 1>we enter the ninety nineties that there's a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>standardization of the aesthetics of the stores themselves. An individual

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster store would have like six thousand, eight thousand tapes,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's a lot of variation potentially, but still they

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sold themselves as having that kind of middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the road, nothing too far afield. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that everybody wants, then we've got that thing

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody wants. But Dan says the sort of soulless

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<v Speaker 1>perception of Blockbuster and other major chains wasn't entirely accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weird thing the way that history is remembering

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<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster as just only being this corporate store that killed

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<v Speaker 1>video stores and movie culture, because in fact, when they

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<v Speaker 1>hit the scene, they had way more movie options than

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<v Speaker 1>the typical mom and pop shop. It's because of financing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're like an individual entrepreneur and you're investing in

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<v Speaker 1>tapes based on your revenue, that's limited. But if you're

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.160
<v Speaker 1>like a publicly traded company like Blockbuster and you can

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<v Speaker 1>just flood a space with six thousand tapes, that's what

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>they did. Nobody has the movie I want. Hey, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's on video, Blockbuster probably hasn't. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand videos, and so they sold themselves on

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<v Speaker 1>having more choices, and Hollywood Video they had like ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand tapes. Only Hollywood Video has Star Wars the Fanto

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<v Speaker 1>Menace for five days, so you can watch it again

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<v Speaker 1>and again. Welcome to Hollywood Hollywood Video. I remember even there,

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<v Speaker 1>this big corporate store had like a cult movie section

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<v Speaker 1>and a foreign film section that was pretty impressive considering.

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<v Speaker 1>And no joke, there was a Hollywood Video in Albuquerque

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<v Speaker 1>that had like a wall of anim a. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like the place to go in the nineties if you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to watch Japanese animation. The historical record needs to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that those places did actually offer lots of options.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrary to what you'd expect. The rise of corporate stores

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't all bad for indie stores. The more alternative stores. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of them pop up because of Blockbuster. When

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<v Speaker 1>the whole video industry starts to really kind of grow

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<v Speaker 1>more corporate and homogenized in the later half of the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties, that's exactly when you see places like Videos

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<v Speaker 1>open up, Scarecrow in Seattle opens up. They realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, okay, Blockbusters kind of taking over the mainstream game,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't have eraser Head. We can actually do

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<v Speaker 1>quite well right next to Blockbuster because we're doing something

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<v Speaker 1>pretty different. When you walking down the street and you

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<v Speaker 1>see little ghost what you're gonna do about ghost pastas?

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<v Speaker 1>What what? What is that? That's the Ghostbusters theme song. No,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how we're going to sell ourselves as the

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<v Speaker 1>alternative to mainstream movie culture. That wasn't by I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they were threatened by Blockbuster necessarily, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were effectively differentiating themselves based on product and clientele. Indie

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<v Speaker 1>stores were also kept alive by the people Dan mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>earlier who tend to frequent more quirky stores, the cinophiles,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. La Tripe always said that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>best scripts don't make the best films, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>they have that kind of literary, you know, narrative thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that you're sort of a slave to. The

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<v Speaker 1>best films, you know, are the ones that aren't like

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<v Speaker 1>tied to that slavishly. Some people who thought of themselves

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<v Speaker 1>as having kind of distinctive tastes would still go to

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<v Speaker 1>a Blockbuster on occasion, but would probably pride themselves on

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<v Speaker 1>going to the cool store in town. And the cool

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<v Speaker 1>stores definitely did all that they could to maintain that

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<v Speaker 1>sense of loyalty, almost like a cult community, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't have that, then you get out of business.

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>And so there's no single way to characterize who cinophiles were.

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<v Speaker 1>What is true is that the kind of art house

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<v Speaker 1>video stores were in places either in big cities or

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<v Speaker 1>in places with highly educated populations, so college towns. Those

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<v Speaker 1>environments helped build and sustain video stores that had more

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<v Speaker 1>kind of artistic leanings or eclectic tastes. Now we land

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties where things started to change the industry

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<v Speaker 1>really hits a big excellent plateau from like ninety three

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<v Speaker 1>through the late nineties, and there's ups and downs right

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<v Speaker 1>and various changes, like increasingly Hollywood did actually priced tapes

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<v Speaker 1>for a cell through audience rather than rental, pricing things

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:11.560
<v Speaker 1>at twenty bucks rather than eighty, and so people did

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<v Speaker 1>buy tapes campveryone's just dying before Jason, and now his

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<v Speaker 1>latest stab at Terror has been slashed to just Roddy

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth, Art seventh. The new blood, especially kids movies,

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.439
<v Speaker 1>right like Disney creating those straight to video sequels to

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 1>their cartoons. They're the baddest, the wildest about funny. His

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>characters in the Pride right now that we all know

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<v Speaker 1>each other sad bare back and give the Lion King

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<v Speaker 1>too simplest Pride on video today. But DVD hits in

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<v Speaker 1>this is d v D, and this is what happens

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>what you watch d v D. And the studios all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knew that things were done, and so if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to kind of be able to sell new

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<v Speaker 1>hardware and re energize the whole home video business, it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to take a different format. Warner Brothers worked

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<v Speaker 1>with I think it was Tashiba On the DVD launches

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<v Speaker 1>in and two thousand it becomes the fastest adopted consumer

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<v Speaker 1>electronics in the history of the planet up till that time,

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<v Speaker 1>which tells you, or tells me, that the appetite for

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:42.159
<v Speaker 1>home videos was never diminished, It only grew stronger. And

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<v Speaker 1>so DVD tapped into an excitement for home video that

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<v Speaker 1>was already there and just said now it's even better.

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<v Speaker 1>So DVD and it doesn't totally wipe away VHS immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think the last Hollywood tape released

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<v Speaker 1>on VHS was either two thousand five or two thousand

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>and six. One format displaces another in six years. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually have had conversations with the guy at Warner Brothers

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 1>who ran Warner Home Video at that time, and their

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 1>whole plan was to create what he called it direct

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 1>to consumer product. They just wanted more direct access to

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that revenue, and that meant selling rather than renting. The

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>DVD was designed as a sell through product that it

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>was cheaper to manufacture plastic discs than the magnetic tapes

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on plastic cases, and DVD was promoted as being better

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>visuals and better sound, which is true. The picture he

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 1>is twice as sharp as VHS. The sound is infinitely clearer.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks and sounds like you're at the movies, but

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>you can experience it at home. We today in can

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<v Speaker 1>too easily say that Netflix streaming killed video stores. The

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 1>first attack on video stores was the DVD because it

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 1>really shifts the whole business model away from rental to

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.639
<v Speaker 1>direct sales, and that means people instead of going to

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster are now going to Walmart and Target, and it

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>displaces video stores significantly. Alongside the DVD came the Internet,

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the Net too long time users. Internet is a whole

0:28:28.880 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>group of networks. The Net is made up of some

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand individual computer networks. And with the Internet came

0:28:36.760 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a little website called Netflix. In today's busy world, going

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to the video store is a hassle. With Netflix, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>just make a list of the movies you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see and you'll get your first DVDs in about one

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>business day. Founded in, Netflix marketed itself as the first

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<v Speaker 1>online DVD rental store. The Netflix model, you would get

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<v Speaker 1>on a computer and rent things by clicking them, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would get mailed to you and you could have

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<v Speaker 1>like three discs at a time. Or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot happening with Netflix that's really innovative. One

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of no late fees. You could keep the

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<v Speaker 1>disc for as long as you wanted, You just couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a new one until you mailed it back, keep

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<v Speaker 1>them as long as you owned without late fees. Return

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<v Speaker 1>one and this prepaid envelow and the automatically send you

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<v Speaker 1>another movie from your list. To this kind of elimination

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>of physical store as a shopping site. You didn't have

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>to go anywhere to shop for movies anymore. Well, this

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>is the last time I grant here. Hey, you're not

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>allowed to rent already now. The other innovation is a

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>subscription pricing model. It's comparable to HBO. People paid a

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>monthly fee for cable and having Hbo h no, let

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Hbo be your kick it to of those stars. But

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>the idea that you would have a monthly subscription fee

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 1>for a movie rental store was kind of ludicrous. In

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>one stroke, Netflix changes a lot of different things, and

0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>I think the thing that subscription models did is it

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>removes the sense of value from the specific commodity, the

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>individual tape or disk. Like at the video store, you

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>would pay four bucks to rent a tape or three

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>fifty to rent a disk. But subscriptions suddenly say you

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>pay us fifteen bucks a month and it has nothing

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to do with how much you watch. The individual movie

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>loses its kind of value, and instead what they're selling

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.520
<v Speaker 1>is that sense of possibility and options, which I still

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>think is why people subscribe to Netflix. How many people

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to Netflix and only watch one thing in a month.

0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>But it's this idea that it's like, oh, but I've

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>got that on tap. Anytime I want it, it's there,

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and so that's worth whatever the prices now their team

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>bucks or whatever. Subscriptions really change the psychology of the

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>whole endeavor. So what happens when we now have an

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 1>abundance of films at our disposal and the act of

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>physical browsing and choosing is removed from the equation In

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>the old days of the video stores, you might have

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a relationship with the store. You might like some stores

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>better than others because of the space, but in the

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>end you also have like a relationship with whatever you

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.400
<v Speaker 1>rented from that store. Like if I rented some check

0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>new wave film, I'm gonna sit down and set aside

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>time to watch that thing. Whereas with Netflix, it's hard

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>to speak for everybody because there's hundreds of millions of

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Netflix users. But I do think that, like the relationship

0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>is really about having Netflix rather than having a movie.

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>It's so easy to kind of disregard the importance of

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>any individual movie on the platform because they all seem

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 1>available eternally. Of course isn't true, but it's like, if

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm already gonna pay for this subscription service, I can

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>fass forward through this or I can turn it off

0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 1>at any point. The relationship is less about with you

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>in an intentional way with a particular movie, and it's

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>more about your relationship with the possibilities. There as a

0:32:19.640 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>somewhat final nail in the coffin, the introduction of streaming

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>did away with the need for any physical media whatsoever.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Netflix Streaming first appears in two thousand seven as a

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of special service to people who were already subscribers

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to the rent by mail thing, and then quickly within

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>one two years after that, suddenly Netflix the streaming library

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>opens up to people just for streaming, and you don't

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>even have to be associated with the rent by mail

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>system and the video library, although still pretty rotten. Ultimately

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.959
<v Speaker 1>it grows so that like suddenly there's five thousand move

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>bes on Netflix rather than just whatever four hundred that

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>they had had previously, And it just grows and grows

0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and grows. And so this idea that like you had

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the convenience of shopping at home, consuming at home, and

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.719
<v Speaker 1>doing it immediately. At the time, there had been cable

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>on demand. Prior to that, you could have bought a

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 1>movie through your cable provider, but Netflix streaming provides that

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>with the subscription based pricing, it's already quote unquote free.

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm already paying for this, so it's a great service.

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Other media companies noticed the success of Netflix and quickly

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>followed suit. Hulu launched in two thousand eight with content

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that was mostly free to watch but was filled with advertisements,

0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>though Hulu did eventually launched its own subscription service. Next

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>came Amazon Prime Video, which also launched in two thousand eight.

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime Video is a very different kind of model.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>It's really there as a kind of hook to get

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:06.640
<v Speaker 1>people attached to the shipping, the Amazon Prime fast shipping stuff.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>If you want to get your diapers in two days,

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you also get to watch look who's talking is Mikey,

0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Who are you? I'm his father father? Are you the

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sperm donor? I mean sperm donor I'm the kid's father.

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Netflix streaming really takes off two thousand eight nine ten,

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Amazon Prime Video becomes available to people. That's really just

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>sealing the deal on video stores that had already been

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 1>hugely disrupted because of those earlier issues related to DVD.

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So how did video stores survive throughout the Netflix boom

0:34:41.600 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>of the two thousand's Some are surviving because they're in

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.919
<v Speaker 1>smaller towns or rural areas that don't have quick mail

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>or fast internet service or anything like that. You've got mail,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>but lots of stores try to come up with this

0:34:57.120 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>idea of no late fees is a direct reaction to

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 1>uh Netflix. Someday you'll remember where you were when you

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>first heard that there are no more late fees at Blockbuster.

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>If you need an extra day or two with your

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>movies or games, you go right ahead. So it's like,

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll shoot if Netflix has no late piece, then suddenly

0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>we look like the bad guys. Not only is it

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>inconvenient for people to come to our store now compared

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.919
<v Speaker 1>to the easy rental of Netflix, but now we look

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like villains because we charge people for not returning tapes

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 1>on time, and Netflix gets rid of the very notion

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>of something being on time or late. The real thing

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that they push in the two thousand's was this idea

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of new releases. Because Netflix, you still had to wait,

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>You were still in a line with other consumers or

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:55.680
<v Speaker 1>other customers to get the latest thing. Whereas you know,

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.800
<v Speaker 1>video stores, especially by the two thousand's, new movie Wednesday,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>New movie Tuesday, right like, so there was like a

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>release date, a street date for those tapes or those discs,

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>and so even though the movie had been in theaters,

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>if you wanted it faster than you could get it

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, and faster than you could get it on cable,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>then the video stores were the place to get things

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 1>faster than other places. Movies are two for just ninety

0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>nine cents every Tuesday, a participating video update stores including

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>new releases. Yes too for just nine cents, including new releases,

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 1>but otherwise, yeah, a lot of stories got a business.

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster flounders, Hollywood video flounders. It wasn't even about streaming

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 1>at that point. It was about the whole disruption of

0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Walmart target selling movies and about Netflix, you know, changing

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the whole game, three hundreds of titles for the whole

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>family from only six ninety nine at least, no a

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>big a place for really loves and targets, epy DVD

0:36:53.920 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>c how are excilent now? In the late two thousands

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 1>and early Dan went on a pilgrimage, mostly for research

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.879
<v Speaker 1>for his book. He decided to drive to and visit

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>as many American video stores as he could. I just

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>talked to UM and Video in fruit Port, Michigan. He's

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>owned the store for about twenty five years, and that

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>in his estimation, according to his memory, h it's the

0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:33.839
<v Speaker 1>oldest independently owned video store in Moskegon County. I mean

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that was like probably like some of the best times

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>in my life go on road trips and rather than

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>like looking at the Grand Canyon with your dad, you

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>could do look at video stores in weird places. I'm

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>in Knox, Pennsylvania, where there's market and video rental. I

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 1>walked into the store and they did, in fact serve

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>as a kind of small grocery store with packaged foods

0:37:58.040 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and a video store with a substantial number of VHS,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>tapes and DVDs. I went to like over twenty states,

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 1>over two fifty stores. Looking at small town stores across

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>the Midwest and the far West and the South, there

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>were some stories that were just kind of totally depressing.

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of one in particular in Kansas, where I

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 1>showed up and I was just like, oh man, oh man,

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>this is so grim. I gotta get out of here.

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 1>But other places were still operating at full steam. Even

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>if the owner knew that that was not sustainable, he

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>offered to sell me the store. Uh. Several times, they

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>were still buying stock and putting new stuff on shelves

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 1>every week. The weirder thing about a lot of the

0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>small town stories is that by that point a lot

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>of them were not only video stores. They engaged in

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a number of other businesses because the video rental was

0:38:57.320 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 1>diminishing and so they had to do something else. I

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 1>saw places that sold, you know, second hand kids clothes.

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I saw places that sold porcelain figurines. There was a

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.240
<v Speaker 1>place in Idaho that was half laundromat half video store.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>That was pretty cool. There was one place in Wyoming

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that you could rent movies, you could get whitewater rafting tours,

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and you could buy a gun I love the idea

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 1>that you could like rent Rambo and buy a gun

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>under the same roof. Could I could kill you here?

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 1>It's me, don't push it. The small town stores were

0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 1>really quirky, not in a kind of artsy FARTZI way,

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 1>but rather in a kind of the vagaries of capitalism

0:39:45.280 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of way. It's like anything to make a buck,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and the stores would reflect the kind of scrappiness of

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the owner of like trysts trying to do anything like

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>selling lotto tickets. The number of stores that had tanning

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>salons or tanning beds attached to them or in a

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>back room that was a huge thing. Oh so when

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 1>the summer comes, a lot of people can because they

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>don't have time. You get the sun, but they'll come

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:17.560
<v Speaker 1>in a tan Okay. At what point does the rental

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:22.320
<v Speaker 1>slow down till April? People? Okay? And was the tanning

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>been here as long as the stories? Okay? When did

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.239
<v Speaker 1>he start that? Probably a year ago? Year ago? What

0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>made him things to do that? Just looking for something

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:35.879
<v Speaker 1>else to offset the video? You probably remember hearing Dan

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 1>mentioned a few bigger nationally known indie stores video It's

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 1>in l A or Scarecrow in Seattle, for example, for

0:40:43.480 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 1>a variety of reasons. Most of these types of stores

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>are still going strong today. And the book I kind

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of refer to these places as video capitals, just meaning

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it's to kind of centralization under the video store roof

0:40:56.760 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>of like movie culture, right, it's kind of that's condensed

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>site for movies and knowledge about movies. And the owners

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>were generally kind of cinephiles and believed in providing a

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>wider range of movie options, almost like a public service.

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of them talked in this kind

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of almost like they were on a mission kind of way.

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And the clerks were always cinephiles and film nerds who

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 1>would largely talk, you know, film trivia all day. What

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>are you doing this? Since stopped making picks, how am

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I going to know what movies to see? We have

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:43.760
<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of Gene picks Jane's trash, I'm gene.

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>A number of them endured and still kind of endure

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>even after the mainstream video business was falling apart, because

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 1>even in the face of Netflix, even in the face

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:02.959
<v Speaker 1>of streaming, even in the face of DVD sell through.

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, a place like Scarecrow, they offer things that

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>aren't easily available on streaming Netflix or aren't available for

0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 1>sale at Walmart, etcetera. What do you think would be

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the next obstacle there? If people will put in our way, well,

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>as long as they can, think, we'll have our problems. Still,

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the problem is once the whole kind of ecosystem of

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>video rental disappears and people in general lose going to

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the video store as a habit or as a practice,

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>then it's really hard to even maintain that kind of

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:42.800
<v Speaker 1>core consumer group that even goes to the specialty store. Still,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>those stores are cultural staples in their respective cities. Video

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Drum in Atlanta where I live is a bustling hub

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>for film people to congregate and share film knowledge. That

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>holds true for many of the video capitals dan is

0:42:57.040 --> 0:43:02.240
<v Speaker 1>talking about. They were community hubs for cinophiles. The stores

0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 1>like Scarecrow and Videots did a good job of cultivating

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>that cinephile culture in that area centered around the store.

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And so one of the things that they've done is

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>sell the very idea of community that in the face

0:43:20.719 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>of a communitylessness of Netflix viewers, where we're all detached

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 1>from each other, we don't even shop next to one another,

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:32.279
<v Speaker 1>shoulders shoulder. Then the stores like Videots and and Scarecrow

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>can say, not only do we have a Felini film

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that Netflix never will, but we can provide you, as

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a consumer, the sense of belonging that Netflix never will,

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a sense of shared affinity for eclectic taste in movies.

0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And so they're not just selling rentals, they're selling the

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 1>very idea of a cinephile community. But to stay alive,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>many of these beloved community stores have had to adopt

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<v Speaker 1>a business model that may not be sustainable. Those stores,

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<v Speaker 1>a number of them, have become nonprofit institutions. Now Scarecrows

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<v Speaker 1>Nonprofit Videos has become a nonprofit. The nonprofit business model

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<v Speaker 1>that Videots and Scarecrow and others are relying on relies

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<v Speaker 1>on the idea that you can get people to donate

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<v Speaker 1>money to a retail operation because you've convinced them that

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<v Speaker 1>the retail operation is a cultural resource worth preserving. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think it's just a really hard thing because even

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<v Speaker 1>with all the nostalgia and all the kind of felt love,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that suddenly a new video store can

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<v Speaker 1>crop up in ann Arbor because people are like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love video stores, but I'm still not going to one.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you turn that kind of nostalgia or love

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<v Speaker 1>for an institution into a business model. I do not know.

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<v Speaker 1>The idiots in l A closed temporarily with the goal

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<v Speaker 1>of reopening a new location serving not just as a

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<v Speaker 1>video store but also in art theater and film archive.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Videots executive director Maggie McKay speaking with Casey R. W.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year. I do think people really need to sit

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<v Speaker 1>in the dark with their friends and strangers and watch

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<v Speaker 1>a flickering screen, and they need the human interaction that

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<v Speaker 1>comes with a video store. And I think more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to crave that. I think Videos has been

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<v Speaker 1>very clever broadening it and saying when we say we're

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<v Speaker 1>a cultural resource, we mean that because we're not just

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<v Speaker 1>a video store. We're a center for movie culture in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, beyond the transactional things that happened when you

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<v Speaker 1>rent a movie from us, and I think Scarecrow, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>has imagined ways of doing that as well. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Scarecrow's big claim too, is that they're the largest single

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<v Speaker 1>collection of movies under one roof, you know, in North America,

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<v Speaker 1>which is important, but it's not like it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>film archive. Either it's like it's a video store. With

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<v Speaker 1>the closure of so many video stores, there's also one

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<v Speaker 1>big unintended consequence, what happens to all of those tapes

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and disks They try to do these sell offs of

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<v Speaker 1>their stock, whether it's tapes in the old days or

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<v Speaker 1>DVDs later, anything that's not being sold is landfill. For

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<v Speaker 1>those of us who have viewed film as an art,

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<v Speaker 1>as a kind of higher level experience that one can

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<v Speaker 1>have on this planet, it is disheartening to realize that

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, they are material commodities that when they

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<v Speaker 1>lose their value, turn into lumps of garbage. Not that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, streaming television's any less poisonous. When I was

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping up Video Land, this was two thousand fourteen, so

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<v Speaker 1>this was when like lots of stories were going out

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<v Speaker 1>of business and just the stores were unrented and the

0:47:01.760 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 1>tapes were going into garbage bins. That was a real

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<v Speaker 1>lightbulb moment for me in general, about how the life

0:47:09.680 --> 0:47:15.720
<v Speaker 1>cycle of commerce creates material that has value for a time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when that value is gone, it is still

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet. We're stuck with it. There's yet another

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<v Speaker 1>tragic truth when it comes to the downfall of video stores.

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<v Speaker 1>In some ways, they created the conditions for their own demise,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that they created a sense that consumers could and

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<v Speaker 1>should have control over their entertainment. In this sense of

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>possibility and options and convenience that they accelerated and activated,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of those things are exactly why we subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to Netflix and Disney Plus. Oh miss Simpson here prode

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<v Speaker 1>addition to the Disney family and soon appearing a Disney

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I for one salute or new corporate overlord. It's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Disney Plus has these options, and it's super easy and convenient,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can watch these things whenever I want. All

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<v Speaker 1>those kind of expectations of what a streaming platform should

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<v Speaker 1>provide or does provide, those expectations were initially set up

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<v Speaker 1>by the video store. That's their bigger legacy is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of creating a sense of personalization, convenience, and control. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>they were outpaced by other devices and platforms. As I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned at the beginning of the episode, I got a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of value out of my local video store growing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I Love video in Austin has since closed down, and

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<v Speaker 1>it strikes me as though I've lost a part of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Dan what he misses most about video stores

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<v Speaker 1>as a customer. I really do miss browsing physically. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time describing why it's so important or

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<v Speaker 1>was so important to me as an individual. But I

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<v Speaker 1>loved walking through the store. When I was in grad

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<v Speaker 1>school at in l A, there was a store around

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<v Speaker 1>the corner called Video Journeys. It's a pretty good store.

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<v Speaker 1>I would spend an hour browsing that store and I

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<v Speaker 1>would walk out with nothing, and I was not unhappy

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<v Speaker 1>about that. It was just a kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go down to the store. I got to buy

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<v Speaker 1>some groceries, and then I'll walk next to Video Journeys

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<v Speaker 1>and just look around. Who would in their right mind say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna look around at Netflix. Of course, there's

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<v Speaker 1>tons of times that we do look around at Netflix

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<v Speaker 1>and never watch a thing, but nobody sits down just

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<v Speaker 1>to browse Netflix. Ever, those of us who had favorite

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<v Speaker 1>video stores, I would put money on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>there was our favorite, in part because of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who worked there. It was like, I get to see

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<v Speaker 1>this one guy who's always got the right joke to crack,

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<v Speaker 1>and he recommends horrible movies. But I love to argue

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<v Speaker 1>with him. So much of what I am saying really

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to missing the people and the spaces in

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<v Speaker 1>which one could shop for movies. And by that, by shopping,

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean is contemplate a future of watching it

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<v Speaker 1>and having a good time. There is a loss in

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of the physical space and the social interactions

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<v Speaker 1>that those spaces generated. And it's hard to put into

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<v Speaker 1>words because it's visceral and it's embodied, and it's in

0:50:31.520 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 1>your heart, and it's your mind, and it's in your

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>hopes for entertainment and and enjoyment. I say, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>reason we need to lose those experiences. I urge you

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<v Speaker 1>to frequent your local video store and keep that community alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe ask the store clerk about Eraserhead and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to rent breakfast statification. This is our someone

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<v Speaker 1>has it out? Oh no, I've I've been the four

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<v Speaker 1>other places. You're the only ones that have had it. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I can put her on reserve for you if you'd like.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could call them and ask them to return.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Herbert is the author of Video Land Movie Culture

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<v Speaker 1>at the American Video Store. This episode of A Feller

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<v Speaker 1>was written and assembled by Trevor Young and produced with

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<v Speaker 1>Max and Alex Williams. Music this episode from the artist

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<v Speaker 1>Mon Plaisier. Learn more at Loyalty Freak music dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Next episode, we'll take a trip to our local video store,

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<v Speaker 1>Video Drum in Atlanta to talk to the owners, clerks,

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<v Speaker 1>and customers, and we'll have a roundtable discussion with iHeart

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast hosts Lauren Vogelbond and Annie Reese on their best

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<v Speaker 1>video store memories. Let us know where you rent videos, past,

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