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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes from now, Lebron James f MVP storyline
Speaker 1: picked up a little speed. I thought I was sitting
Speaker 1: alone on the bus for that for a while. But
Speaker 1: after Lebron led the Lakers past the Pelicans last night,
Speaker 1: New Orleans head coach Alvin Gentry said, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Lebron is MVP. Here is the Pelicans head coach. I'm
Speaker 1: just amazed that they talk about anybody other than him. Farms.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what he does. Everything that he's been to,
Speaker 1: everything that he's gone, have a chance to win the championship.
Speaker 1: So you know, to me, I mean, I'm not show
Speaker 1: what the definition of MVP is, but he makes everybody
Speaker 1: on his team better and it makes it difficult for everybody.
Speaker 1: Most people think the Greek Freak is the favorite now,
Speaker 1: and I certainly understand that, but the debate implies something
Speaker 1: negative about one of the players, and that's always the
Speaker 1: danger when you get into this topic where I, you know,
Speaker 1: people in Milwaukee think I'm disparaging the Greek freak'd I
Speaker 1: said he might be the best player in the game.
Speaker 1: I think Lebron is the most valuable player in the game.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna say, well, what's the difference there. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys who are talented, and I
Speaker 1: know they're going to win seventy games. But understand this
Speaker 1: part of the equation. When you vote on this. The
Speaker 1: people in the media voting are looking for a story.
Speaker 1: You know, Harden could have won the MVP prior to
Speaker 1: him winning the MVP. Russell Westbrook could have won it
Speaker 1: a second time, but they had written that story, and
Speaker 1: then the Greek freak came along. They've written that story.
Speaker 1: Now you can go Lebron had won the MVP since
Speaker 1: twenty twelve, twenty thirteen. What a great story. Hey, at
Speaker 1: his age, he's leading the league and assist Hey he's
Speaker 1: doing it without Anthony Davis on some nights. Here. It's
Speaker 1: the story that goes along with it. Now you have
Speaker 1: to have the stats that go along with that, but
Speaker 1: the story is Lebron James and I think it's fun
Speaker 1: to see all of these younger players and there's so
Speaker 1: much excitement in the league. You know, if the Lakers
Speaker 1: and Pelicans could play three times a week, there would
Speaker 1: be no ratings issues. But you know, the Bucks are
Speaker 1: chasing history, the Lakers trying to hold onto the number
Speaker 1: one seed in the West, and it's a brutal Western conference.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not saying the Lakers win seventy in
Speaker 1: the East, but I think it might be a little
Speaker 1: easier sledding there. Lebron James, with what I've seen, I've
Speaker 1: said it from the outset, it's a better story. He
Speaker 1: has the numbers to back it up. And at his age,
Speaker 1: he has three full seasons on his body. So he's
Speaker 1: what thirty five, he's thirty eight, He's got two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty nine postseason games. What he's done, what he's
Speaker 1: doing is unprecedented. I like the analogy. Somebody said, well,
Speaker 1: he's become the modern day John Stockton in Karl Malone's body,
Speaker 1: and you think about it, he's passing. But then I
Speaker 1: do think that he has load management now he plays
Speaker 1: most games, unlike Kauai his load men. Saman is the following.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna ratchet this up tonight now, National
Speaker 1: TV zion, let me, let me put up some decent
Speaker 1: numbers here. And it feels like getting up for those games,
Speaker 1: or you know, doing even more for those games. And
Speaker 1: then no Anthony Davis. So he had to do that.
Speaker 1: But last night. It was fun to see Zion Williamson again.
Speaker 1: He's the first teenager in NBA history to score at
Speaker 1: least thirty five points while shooting seventy five percent or
Speaker 1: better from the floor, and he had thirty five last night.
Speaker 1: He was twelve to sixteen, and he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: signature move yet, which is amazing because if you look
Speaker 1: at some of these rookies who came in, Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: average twenty eight a game when he came in, David
Speaker 1: Robinson average twenty four, Wolder Davis twenty four, Bernard King
Speaker 1: twenty four. Zion Williamson is averaging twenty four points per game,
Speaker 1: so he would be up there amongst the all time
Speaker 1: rookies as far as they're scoring averages in a rookie season.
Speaker 1: You know, Jordan at the time was a highlight film.
Speaker 1: People didn't know that Michael was that great. He hit
Speaker 1: the big shot to win a national title. But you know,
Speaker 1: you just heard about Jordan's athleticism. You didn't know that
Speaker 1: he was going to be able to be this good
Speaker 1: doing this many things, because you know, the big joke was,
Speaker 1: you know, the one guy who could hold Jordan down
Speaker 1: was Dean Smith. Because of the way he played or
Speaker 1: that style. At North Carolina, David Robinson seven footer Walter
Speaker 1: Davis was as smooth as anybody, hence the nickname Greyhound,
Speaker 1: and Bernard King had a signature move as well. But
Speaker 1: watching Zion, it's just power, just raw power, and if
Speaker 1: you let him get the ball at the foul line,
Speaker 1: he's either going left or right and he's taken it
Speaker 1: to you. But there was an interesting moment after the
Speaker 1: game JaVale McGhee asked for Zion's jersey. JaVale McGhee is
Speaker 1: a veteran, he's been around a long time. But I'm
Speaker 1: watching that. I'm going, wow, okay, And I don't get
Speaker 1: into this. Oh you know, Larry Bird never would have
Speaker 1: done that or Magic Johnson. Hey, I get it. Soccer
Speaker 1: created all of this, Like soccer has been doing this
Speaker 1: for a long time, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: basketball players, football players. I'm okay with it. It's not
Speaker 1: the end of the world. People are like JaVale McGee,
Speaker 1: you can't let him know that you're you got a
Speaker 1: weakness there, Like, yeah, the weakness was playing against Zion Williamson.
Speaker 1: If I'm JaVale McGee, maybe I can be nice to Zion,
Speaker 1: but the eighties are over, the nineties are over. This
Speaker 1: is just different. It feels like there's a collaborative effort
Speaker 1: in the NBA. But Lebron James with what he did
Speaker 1: last night, that was fun to see, fun to see
Speaker 1: again and to watch Zion do it. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no it's no fluke and he doesn't have a jump shot.
Speaker 1: You know, he just has raw power here and you
Speaker 1: saw that on display again last time. I also like
Speaker 1: the James Harden the Greek freak back and four boys
Speaker 1: that happened on Friday, and that got to be really
Speaker 1: delicious there, h Sothie. Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh when I saw this, I'm like, man, I figured
Speaker 1: you were driving in your car just chopping this one up. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, here's James Harden. Now you know,
Speaker 1: the sensitivity goes back to and I do think this
Speaker 1: about James Harden. I think James Harden probably sits around
Speaker 1: with his boys and goes, you know, these people just
Speaker 1: don't get me. Man, you know what I'm doing. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm averaging thirty seven thirty eight. Like they don't
Speaker 1: get me. And I understand that maybe we don't get you.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by you, but I wouldn't want to play
Speaker 1: on your team. Now that being said, I still think
Speaker 1: the Rockets are extremely dangerous because of Russell Westbrook. Westbrook
Speaker 1: has been unbelievable. He has been underrated with what he
Speaker 1: was going to because it got to the point where
Speaker 1: I think that the Thunders said, we've gotten the best
Speaker 1: out of this guy. He's thirty, you know, and the
Speaker 1: Rockets thought, you know, Earl Moore, he was going to
Speaker 1: bring him in, and we go, why would you bring
Speaker 1: in a guy who can't shoot threes? Well, he doesn't
Speaker 1: have to. He was told not to shoot threes by
Speaker 1: somebody other than me. So he's attacks the hoop and
Speaker 1: you're seeing an unbelievable performance by him. But James Harden,
Speaker 1: it still feels like James Harden's going to be He'll
Speaker 1: go through his career and he'll probably like, nobody really
Speaker 1: got me, man, you know, look at all I did
Speaker 1: and nobody really got me. James Harden might be the
Speaker 1: basketball version of arrested development, Like we look at it
Speaker 1: and go, can I missed that? Like why didn't more
Speaker 1: people appreciate that? But James Harden. He's responding to criticism now.
Speaker 1: And the Greek Freak said he didn't want to take
Speaker 1: James Harden on his team, the All Star team, because
Speaker 1: he wanted to have somebody was going to pass in
Speaker 1: the ball. I love that. Well, Rachel Nichols talked to
Speaker 1: James Harden, and this is how a person of that
Speaker 1: interview went on Friday. You do have people talking about
Speaker 1: some of the stereotypes that have blown up around you.
Speaker 1: Charles Berkeley, when they had the All Star Draft was saying, oh, no,
Speaker 1: one wants to take James Harden. He's a dribbler, Janna.
Speaker 1: Since Coopo makes a joke on the air about I
Speaker 1: want to take someone who can pass, I'm taking Kemba
Speaker 1: Walker instead of James Harden. I was more assist him.
Speaker 1: You ranked tenth minesses going into the All Star break
Speaker 1: and Kembo ranked thirty six minases going into the All
Speaker 1: Star break. I honestly, I don't see what the joke is.
Speaker 1: But I don't even I didn't even see it. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't pay attition stuff like that. I
Speaker 1: just know none of them can mentioned me. Well, Darryl Moorey,
Speaker 1: your general manager, had a great line to kind of
Speaker 1: address all of that. He said, being different doesn't really
Speaker 1: get appreciated until it works. Yeah, or what I'm done, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what it's all said and done. Um, you
Speaker 1: know they'll appreciate it more, you know. But I wish
Speaker 1: I could just run running with seven feet and running
Speaker 1: just dunk. I gotta takes no skill at all. I
Speaker 1: got to actually learn how to play basketball, how to
Speaker 1: have skill. I take that in your day. Wow, that
Speaker 1: is rich. That's when he takes you shot at the
Speaker 1: Greek freak. I'm guessing the Greek freak and do just
Speaker 1: a little more than just run up. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of seven putters. There aren't any seven putters who
Speaker 1: are like the Greek Freak. Yes, mclaugh was that a
Speaker 1: little patty of Rachel go Kemba ranks thirty six. The
Speaker 1: ways he said it was like kind of stoking the
Speaker 1: fire a little bit. Yeah. Probably that means you got
Speaker 1: a good sound bite out of it. But I think
Speaker 1: with the Greek freak, you know, the Harden, that's Harden's
Speaker 1: way of kind of zinging him back. Then Hey, all
Speaker 1: he does is run up and down the floor and dunks.
Speaker 1: I don't know many other seven potters who do what,
Speaker 1: who was, who's doing or did what the Greek Freak
Speaker 1: has done. Either way, Greek Freak didn't he go forty
Speaker 1: twenty Yeah response game, I'm sorry, UM, I can do
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I'm forty twenty. Here is h
Speaker 1: the Greek Freak H courtesy of ESPN. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: back and forth like I'm I'm not that thought about God,
Speaker 1: never tried to think stubbs somebody, somebody, UM maybe sometimes
Speaker 1: might come out like that, but I'm definitely not. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to two months job, which is to win
Speaker 1: games and go back home to my family and my
Speaker 1: kid lay. But at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 1: that's when he believes, that's when he relives. I can
Speaker 1: say anything about it. I just gotta keep me in folks,
Speaker 1: and UM give me enough, stay staying some folks for
Speaker 1: my goal. What's the Greek Freak doing? You gotta keep
Speaker 1: it going? What are you doing? Hey, I just go
Speaker 1: home to be with my kid. That's not trash. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, you were doing great up to a certain point.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to win games and then go home
Speaker 1: to my family. Yeah, that's not trash talking. I mean
Speaker 1: he got balanced diet and getting good night's sleep, yes,
Speaker 1: eat that. Yeah. But hardened. Hey, he's always been fascinating
Speaker 1: to me. You know, there's a portion of hardened. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like Jameis Winston. I'm fascinated by Jameis Winston. I'm
Speaker 1: fascinated by James Harden. Now, James Harden is an elite player.
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston is just fascinating, good and bad. But James
Speaker 1: Harden I truly and you heard it in that answer
Speaker 1: to Rachel Nichols. When I'm all done, then maybe well
Speaker 1: people will truly appreciate me. It's just he has some
Speaker 1: games that you just go, that's horrible, not bad, horrible,
Speaker 1: and then he has other games where you go, it's
Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating. But I would not want to play on
Speaker 1: the same team with him, but I do love watching
Speaker 1: him play. And there was a moment in the Celtics
Speaker 1: game of the Rockets where Russell Westbrook Junior the third
Speaker 1: was like he's out on the wing and he's like, dude,
Speaker 1: throw me the ball, and then Harden he was like, uh,
Speaker 1: and then he just shot it, shot an airball and
Speaker 1: I'm going come on, moving around just a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean just a little bit. Yes, mclo I thought
Speaker 1: that was on Westbrook because Westbrook was just standing at
Speaker 1: the four years Westbrook tends to do well, how about
Speaker 1: you throw it to Would these guys stand around and
Speaker 1: watch Hardened? You can't sit there and go why aren't
Speaker 1: you guys moving? Well, that's what Harden was saying. Why
Speaker 1: you gotta move to Your guy has a double me.
Speaker 1: When I go left, James Harden doesn't pass. So if
Speaker 1: I'm guarding what Russell Westbrook, then I'm gonna be sluffing
Speaker 1: off you. I want Russell Westbrook to take a jumper there,
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't even throw it too, and to maybe
Speaker 1: throw it back to Harden or maybe Harden would make
Speaker 1: a move. How about that? Yeah? Right, there's two games
Speaker 1: back the Clippers and Nuggets for the two seat and
Speaker 1: trending up. Now. I get they could be number two,
Speaker 1: right behind the Lakers. I just don't know if they
Speaker 1: can be consistent in a seven game series, that's it.
Speaker 1: We can be and people can say the Rockets can say, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys overlooked just during the regular season. Guilty as charge.
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. I do think it can work.
Speaker 1: I don't think it can win a championship, but I
Speaker 1: do think that they could pull off a surprise or
Speaker 1: two in the playoffs. But I don't know if they
Speaker 1: can be consistent enough, because it comes down to you
Speaker 1: got hardened and you're not sure what you're getting every night.
Speaker 1: I mean, you may get thirty eight, but it may
Speaker 1: be an ugly thirty eight, or you get Westbrook who
Speaker 1: might put up thirty or he doesn't, and then who
Speaker 1: else fills in? Because now you got to score one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty points to win games. Remember when it
Speaker 1: used to be in the nineties, maybe a hundred, although
Speaker 1: Milwaukee had what ninety points last night and their win.
Speaker 1: You got to score and do you have enough scores?
Speaker 1: That's the big difference here. Pull question, mcleven, What do
Speaker 1: you have for me? Do you want to put up
Speaker 1: this lebron the honest MVPC where the people stand? How
Speaker 1: about a co MVP? Keith Hernandez and Willie starts us. No,
Speaker 1: I don't like the co MVP, But why do you
Speaker 1: have to choose one of them? They're both kind of MVPs. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what we do. So let's get the h do
Speaker 1: you want to participatory MVP? I thought the co MVP
Speaker 1: was a nineteen seventy nine with Keith Rnandez and Willie
Speaker 1: starg It was kind of cool. I remember they were
Speaker 1: on the cover of Sports Lstra. But all right, let's
Speaker 1: get the audiences. Take who they both were, right, No,
Speaker 1: we have big audiences in Milwaukee and La. Look, I
Speaker 1: might be, you know, in the minority with Lebron. I
Speaker 1: think I said that on Friday, But I just I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the story, what he's doing, the mileage he's playing.
Speaker 1: There's no load management here, you know, and the pressure
Speaker 1: now that he's put on himself because you're the one
Speaker 1: that disassembled this team, and the pressure we put on him. Hey,
Speaker 1: you wanted all these kids traded, you wanted Anthony Davis here,
Speaker 1: you know. Now, let's see what you can do. He's
Speaker 1: performed up to the expectation level and probably more so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the club. Do you think he should load manage
Speaker 1: though at the end, Yes, and which could hurt his
Speaker 1: MVP chances. Well, we might have that with a Greek
Speaker 1: freak as well, if they're going through. But I think
Speaker 1: getting to seventy wins is really important to the Bucks.
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks feel like if they get to seventy,
Speaker 1: then their guys winning the MVP. And if you want
Speaker 1: to give it to Greek Freak, give it to him.
Speaker 1: I don't want people in Wisconsin to think that I
Speaker 1: don't think the Greek Freak is great. When we were
Speaker 1: talking the other day and I'm matave been with Reggie Miller,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, if we had a dry
Speaker 1: I'd probably take the Greek Freak. I mean, at worst,
Speaker 1: teams in the top three players in the world. So
Speaker 1: it's not disparaging. I'm just talking about the value of him.
Speaker 1: I think Milwaukee without the Greek Freak is still a
Speaker 1: playoff team in the East. Okay, Lebron not on the Lakers.
Speaker 1: They're not a playoff team in the West. But it
Speaker 1: always comes down to, oh, you're criticizing our guy, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I just want to
Speaker 1: point it out that I think Lebron and the story
Speaker 1: is the MVP story this year. Let's see what plays
Speaker 1: out here the rest of the year. Do they get
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the West. There's a whole
Speaker 1: lot of value to the number one seed in the West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: b Bucks versus the Lakers Friday Night, It'll be settled
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Speaker 1: warn sweatpants in six years, and I was pretty worried
Speaker 1: about him because sweatpants means he's sick. Yeah, I did.
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Speaker 1: yea up today. We're glad to have you, hopefully for
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Speaker 1: first year wind of the new regime. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if make love and is thrilled to have you,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's contagious anymore. Once he gets
Speaker 1: into the internal stuff, I'm cool. Okay, Yeah, uh, we'll
Speaker 1: talk to Peter King. He'll join us. You spent some
Speaker 1: time at the Combine, of course, the great column Football
Speaker 1: Morning in America. He'll join us. Are we gonna go
Speaker 1: with NBA MVP? Yeah? And you're saying I can't put
Speaker 1: co MVPs. It's not a Gianna's versus Lebron's way out,
Speaker 1: easy way out. It's not a third like hard. It
Speaker 1: doesn't get in that conversation. Doesn't know, No, I think
Speaker 1: it's a I don't know. A lot of people say
Speaker 1: the race is already over, but I don't. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: So I think what these two are doing. You know,
Speaker 1: Yannis had an unbelievable game forty twenty. Lebron had another
Speaker 1: great game. Do they get to seventy wins in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: or what if they get the record for wins? I
Speaker 1: don't know, But what if they taste the Bulls and
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Now, well, if you get to seventy, you're
Speaker 1: chasing the Bulls Warriors. That seems to favorite of Yannis,
Speaker 1: you know, the best player in the best team. What
Speaker 1: if Lebron ends up facing the Bucks after they've put
Speaker 1: up seventy three wins like he did against Golden State,
Speaker 1: when they put up seventy three wins, and he wins
Speaker 1: another title his he repeatanc Yeah. Peter King, NBC Sports
Speaker 1: dot Com and the great column starting your Monday morning
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America, spent some time at the combine.
Speaker 1: Feels like it's Groundhog Day, Peter. People go kicking and screaming.
Speaker 1: Yours included with the combine that we don't really get
Speaker 1: much out of this, and then after we're talking about
Speaker 1: those who are rising and falling and who made money,
Speaker 1: and you know, so all the drama that was there.
Speaker 1: Number One story Number one headline coming out of the
Speaker 1: combine is what for you? Unfortunately, because I don't know
Speaker 1: that there's anything altogether new. But you know, I'm having
Speaker 1: breakfast with somebody very prominent in the league, got Thursday,
Speaker 1: and I said, give me your stories this week, and
Speaker 1: he goes, Tom Brady is the domino that's paralyzing the
Speaker 1: entire NFL, you know, and until people know what happens there.
Speaker 1: Look at how many people are being held hostage, you know,
Speaker 1: from start from Derek Carr to to Build Belichick to
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean just there's thirty really big
Speaker 1: people in the NFL. Oh, their lives are going to
Speaker 1: be effective an awful lot by whatever Tom Brady chooses
Speaker 1: to do and whatever teams choose to go after him. Now,
Speaker 1: there are some teams that are out there who are
Speaker 1: quote in the Tom Brady hunt end quote that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they are, but and there's some
Speaker 1: teams that I think it really doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense for. But who knows. This is a very
Speaker 1: unusual situation. The reason I pooh pooh it only a
Speaker 1: little bit, Dan, is that you know, the rest of
Speaker 1: the league is going on and you know, there's an
Speaker 1: awful lot happening. This is this is the combine really
Speaker 1: has become like a political convention because everybody, and I
Speaker 1: mean everybody goes for four or five days, and so
Speaker 1: you're gonna run into Jerry Joes, You're gonna ru You're
Speaker 1: gonna run into Howie Roseman, You're gonna run into Bruce Er,
Speaker 1: You're gonna run into everybody in the league at some
Speaker 1: point over like a four day period. If you're lucky,
Speaker 1: you get to schlose a little bit and move on.
Speaker 1: The difference. I think this year, Dan is this the
Speaker 1: labor agreement, Although the public, and rightfully so, is not
Speaker 1: all that concerned about it, because no matter what happens,
Speaker 1: there is going to be football this year. But the
Speaker 1: labor agreement is on everybody's mind. That is, to the
Speaker 1: common person in the NFL, so much more important than
Speaker 1: where Tom Brady leans and had. I had the Giants
Speaker 1: player with Nate Solder tell me over the weekend that
Speaker 1: he asked fifteen players on his team in the last
Speaker 1: few days. He started fifteen players and he said, what
Speaker 1: would your roath be? Do you want to stay at
Speaker 1: sixteen games or go to seventeen with improved salary and benefits,
Speaker 1: and he goes through his fifteen to nothing in favor
Speaker 1: of playing seventeen games. So there's a tremendous disparity of opinion.
Speaker 1: It is exactly I said to somebody, this is precisely
Speaker 1: like the America that Donald Trump sees, in the America
Speaker 1: that Bernie Sanders seas. It is diametrically opposed. And somebody's
Speaker 1: going to be really pissed off when when this vote happened,
Speaker 1: And maybe a thousand people would be really ticked off.
Speaker 1: But this is going to be a very interesting story
Speaker 1: over the next week or so. What's more likely to
Speaker 1: happen Brady leaves, the patriots of the Redskins take Tuah
Speaker 1: at number two. The reds kids aren't taken to you know,
Speaker 1: I just can't. I can't see it in a million
Speaker 1: years now. Is it in their best interest to convince
Speaker 1: everybody that they might take to it? Yes, because then
Speaker 1: Miami might be forced or you know, I mean imagine
Speaker 1: this scenario. Then imagine Miami trades a one and a
Speaker 1: two to go up to number two to get uh,
Speaker 1: you know, to get to make sure they get Tah,
Speaker 1: and then imagine the use the the Imagine Washington then
Speaker 1: trading backed up with the Lions so they can get
Speaker 1: chase you under three. There's all kinds of things that
Speaker 1: will happen. But I'll be shocked if if the if
Speaker 1: Washington takes to him talking to Peter King his column
Speaker 1: is Football Morning in America, you know, keeping an eye
Speaker 1: on some of these other quarterbacks. And as you said,
Speaker 1: you know Brady is the domino there the next quarterback
Speaker 1: after Brady is who in the dominoes? Well, I think
Speaker 1: it would be a tie. I don't think there's anybody
Speaker 1: who is overwhelming, but I mean Teddy Bridgewater is very
Speaker 1: interesting to a bunch of teams because he's proven that
Speaker 1: in a good system he definitely can win. He's a
Speaker 1: great leader type guy. Um. And so I mean whether
Speaker 1: that's Tampa um, you know, which I think is probably
Speaker 1: the favorite for Teddy Bridgewater. And then after that, I
Speaker 1: guess you'd have to say Cam although a good conversation
Speaker 1: with Matt Rule as the combine in the Sex flat out,
Speaker 1: I'm really looking for it to working with Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: and he's watched a bunch of tape on him, and
Speaker 1: I think if I guess right now, my guests would
Speaker 1: be that Carolina would likely likely keep Cam, but that
Speaker 1: would not eliminate them from taking say of Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: or Jordan Love, maybe even trading down a bit to
Speaker 1: do that in the first round. And then I mean
Speaker 1: there's any one of a number of guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the big question about Philip Rivers right now
Speaker 1: is does he really want to play regardless of what
Speaker 1: the money is, or is he going to be out
Speaker 1: there seeking sort of franchise quarterback money for a couple
Speaker 1: of years. And if they're a team like I kind
Speaker 1: of don't think Indianapolis would do that. I've thought for
Speaker 1: a while Indianapolis is the favorite for Philip Rivers. But
Speaker 1: then again, how if he wants twenty seven million a year,
Speaker 1: I doubt Indianapolis would pay that. So those are some
Speaker 1: of the issues right now that are kind of floating
Speaker 1: out there. There a guy who really he helped his
Speaker 1: draft stock at the combine. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: more that Isaiah Simmons could do, because most people already
Speaker 1: thought he was a top ten pick, But just in
Speaker 1: terms of impressive people and players at the combine, I
Speaker 1: would say that Isaiah Simmons was number one because I
Speaker 1: mean I had I had a coach who said, Isaiah
Speaker 1: Simmons right now could walk into his training camp. He
Speaker 1: thinks and play safety, any linebacker spot or even plot corner,
Speaker 1: and so that would be the most amazingly diverse. You know,
Speaker 1: it would be like the modern day version of Trumy
Speaker 1: Brown in New England. You know, he can play so
Speaker 1: many places. And then I think the other guy was
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Taylor to running back from Wisconsin. Although Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: by the way, had a great night on Thursday. I
Speaker 1: now think he's an absolutely solid third round kake. A
Speaker 1: lot of people love Jalen Hurts as a leader, as
Speaker 1: they really want him on their team, but I think
Speaker 1: they were concerned about how he throws the deep ball,
Speaker 1: because he really has not had to throw a lot
Speaker 1: of deep balls really, and he's through the deep ball again.
Speaker 1: It's again against air. Okay, so against no rushers, but man,
Speaker 1: he's got a good arm. So I don't know. He
Speaker 1: helped himself too. But that running back from Wisconsin, Wow,
Speaker 1: this guy had nine hundred and twenty six carries in college.
Speaker 1: But now you've got all these people in the NFL
Speaker 1: who think, well, we may not have a running back
Speaker 1: get to a second contract anyway, So let's just ride
Speaker 1: this guy. He's tremendous. He's he's say Quan esque, So anyway,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Yeah, that's my philosophy. If I take a
Speaker 1: running back in the first round, I'm using him up
Speaker 1: those five years and then to you know, even with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, I wouldn't have resigned Ezekiel Elliott, you know,
Speaker 1: I would have found somebody else with that offensive line.
Speaker 1: You know, the Titans, with what they have with Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: you know, do you resign him? Do you think he
Speaker 1: stays with Tennessee? Well, Dan, that is a great question,
Speaker 1: the guests, And look, one of the reasons why Tennessee
Speaker 1: has a huge vested interest in which way this contract goes.
Speaker 1: For people who don't know this right now, an NFL
Speaker 1: team could pay you know, a couple of free agents
Speaker 1: here in the last year of the of this current CBA.
Speaker 1: But if there's a new CBA, you can only use
Speaker 1: one tag per year. So if this passes, they've got
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, Derrick Henry, and Ryan Tannehill and they can
Speaker 1: only tag one. So I think I mean This is
Speaker 1: a tough call. If you're in on Tom Brady, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, you've got to tag Derrick Henry. I would
Speaker 1: if I were them, and I would really try hard
Speaker 1: to sign Coglin. But as crazy as it sounds, Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry is would be vitally important if you're going hard
Speaker 1: after Brady, well, if I'm Brady. And by the way,
Speaker 1: he was face timing Mike Rabel from the Syracuse game,
Speaker 1: is that tampering Peter? I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to that. They might have been talking about
Speaker 1: non at college. I don't know. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: breaking down Buddy Bayheim's game, you know. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Tony Romo deal that seemed to steal the weekend,
Speaker 1: what was the buzz off of that? Just that? Um
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you look at what Romo did,
Speaker 1: what what CBS did, is they wounded ESPN. ESPN is
Speaker 1: not used to losing things that they want to win.
Speaker 1: ESPN everybody in the business says desperately wanted Romo. And
Speaker 1: right now, the way you look at it is, you know,
Speaker 1: ESPN because these packages Dan could change. Just think about it.
Speaker 1: In two and twenty one. There's going if this passes,
Speaker 1: there's going to be eighteen more football games. Could ten
Speaker 1: of them be put in a package for streaming, maybe
Speaker 1: with Google or Amazon or somebody with a bottomless pit
Speaker 1: of money to throw at the NFL? You know, a
Speaker 1: billion and a half bucks for ten okay games? You
Speaker 1: know that's so you don't really know. And you hear
Speaker 1: all these things about ESPN wanting to improve the Monday
Speaker 1: Night package or invade Sunday. So I think what CBS
Speaker 1: did is they said, we are still a what I
Speaker 1: would call it be jeweled property in the TV field,
Speaker 1: and we're not going to have our biggest talent coached.
Speaker 1: Oh boy. I still go back to if Tony Romo
Speaker 1: didn't get hurt, Like, what would he be doing today?
Speaker 1: What would the Cowboys have a quarterback? If that didn't happen. Well,
Speaker 1: I doubt they would have been so intent that year
Speaker 1: that they went. You know, Dan, remember twenty sixteen number
Speaker 1: one choice far and away for the Dallas Cowboys. Acton
Speaker 1: Lynch desperately disappointed when they didn't get them first pick
Speaker 1: of Day three. The Cowboys thought that they had a
Speaker 1: trade with the Cleveland Browns worked out where they were
Speaker 1: going to to trade up to get this first pick
Speaker 1: in round four and they were taking Connor Cooks. Well,
Speaker 1: they got Trump literally at the last minute, and Oakland
Speaker 1: traded up for that pick. In Oakland pick Conam Cook
Speaker 1: and then so as very in a very disappointed way,
Speaker 1: even though they had good reports on Dak Prescott, they
Speaker 1: took Dak Prescott. My gut feeling, just the gut feeling,
Speaker 1: was if Romo was healthy, they wouldn't have been so
Speaker 1: intent on getting a quarterback. Would they have pick Prescott?
Speaker 1: Who knows? Maybe, but I doubt it, And who knows Romo?
Speaker 1: You know what, people don't know enough about Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget being within the training camp one day
Speaker 1: and he took out his phone and he had all
Speaker 1: these videos of how every quarterback in the league through
Speaker 1: and he was breaking down everybody. And it was a
Speaker 1: fun conversation. Even if you're not a passing scientist, even
Speaker 1: if you're not the ham House, it was so fun
Speaker 1: to listen to him. And I remember thinking that day
Speaker 1: because I always thought Romo would be great on TV.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how great, but I remember thinking that day,
Speaker 1: this guy breaking down the sport of football. In a
Speaker 1: way that people can understand is going to be great.
Speaker 1: And you know, you hate to say this, but as
Speaker 1: good as he was at his pete in football, you
Speaker 1: know he's better in the booth. Peter Great, Great could
Speaker 1: read the column is always thank you for your time,
Speaker 1: all the best, Dare Peter King, NBC Sports dot Com
Speaker 1: Football Morning in America. I remember when Romo did his
Speaker 1: audition because I'd only heard Romo after games, you know,
Speaker 1: after Cowboy games, where he would just sort of give
Speaker 1: you a standard line. You know, it's frustrating, he'd normally
Speaker 1: say after they lost. And somebody who was there and
Speaker 1: watched his audition, they said he was unbelievable, and I
Speaker 1: was like, really, And then the person who I've known
Speaker 1: for a long time said, yeah, unbelievable. I thought, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for this, and lo and behold you got that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit more about this, because I
Speaker 1: think people are viewing this differently. I think they're viewing
Speaker 1: it in correct in my opinion of how I view
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Speaker 1: I mentioned Tony Romo's deal seventeen million dollars in the
Speaker 1: way I view it as the following. I know that
Speaker 1: we like to lump in. Everybody would play sports for free.
Speaker 1: You get to broadcast a game, all right. I view
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Speaker 1: this is our top show. This makes us a lot
Speaker 1: of money. We spend a billion dollars. The rights are
Speaker 1: up soon. You want to say to the league, we
Speaker 1: kept our team intact. Make sure you give us quality games.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it does for Peyton Manning's negotiating stance,
Speaker 1: but we'll find out next hour with Jim Miller, who
Speaker 1: wrote the book on ESPN and is well connected in
Speaker 1: this area. But Peyton Manning take that job now now
Speaker 1: that he knows it's seventeen million, he might go that's
Speaker 1: seventeen for Romo, it's twenty for me. And if you're ESPN,
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Got to get somebody here if you're now
Speaker 1: going after Romo or you're going after somebody else. And
Speaker 1: that's why I thought if Drew Brees retired, Drew Brees
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