WEBVTT - Dear John....RHONJ Recap with Meghan McCain 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey rain Drops. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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<v Speaker 2>television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a

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<v Speaker 2>week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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<v Speaker 2>shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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<v Speaker 2>and tweeting about.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, rain drops.

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<v Speaker 2>On another episode of Reality with the King, I am

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<v Speaker 2>joined by my good friend.

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<v Speaker 1>She's one of my favorite blondes.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also the host of this amazing podcast called Citizen

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<v Speaker 2>McCain that is available on Apples, Spotify, wherever you get

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<v Speaker 2>your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the girl we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss Seek on daytime television, right, drov give it off

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<v Speaker 2>with my good friend Meghan McCain.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Carlos, thank you so much. But you're the king

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<v Speaker 3>of podcasting. And every time you come on my show,

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<v Speaker 3>which is probably more often than you like, because we

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<v Speaker 3>always ask you, everybody loves it and we get a

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<v Speaker 3>spike in listeners because you're so popular and everybody loves you,

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<v Speaker 3>and even like I have so many friends who listen

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<v Speaker 3>to you and follow you and just think you're the best.

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<v Speaker 3>And you always pop up on like Juicy Scoop and

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<v Speaker 3>all these places I also consume. So it's really my honor.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I love going on air with you, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love talking to you because I think we have

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<v Speaker 3>the same interest.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we do have the same interest, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we get a lot. We've been friends for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>He Look, you know, all you have to do is

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<v Speaker 2>ask me to come in a podcasts.

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it in a heartbeat. We have we

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<v Speaker 1>have so much fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And the beauty of you, Meghan is a fact that listen,

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<v Speaker 2>the world sees you as this political commentator. You obviously

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<v Speaker 2>know your shit when it comes to politics, but baby,

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<v Speaker 2>my girl knows her shit when it comes to reality television.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have to get into the state of the

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<v Speaker 2>House of Boston, New Jersey. So have you mean keep

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<v Speaker 2>it up with the show this season?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't watch last night's episode, which I should

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<v Speaker 3>have knowing that I was coming on with you, But

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<v Speaker 3>I just I was so bored with the episode before

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<v Speaker 3>I told you on my podcast, the baseball episode, and like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's nice to Lauries is doing charity work.

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<v Speaker 3>I think all those things are wonderful. I just have

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<v Speaker 3>been so bored this season. And I think that like

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<v Speaker 3>any relationship in television, I don't care if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>political show or the reality TV or Dancing with the Stars,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have relationships with people, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>to film with people, and you have to get along,

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<v Speaker 3>and trust me, when things stop getting along, it'll go

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<v Speaker 3>to hell really fast if something isn't to fix it,

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<v Speaker 3>and if that's like executive producers getting involved or you

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<v Speaker 3>just like you know, putting the show over family matters

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<v Speaker 3>or personal matters. And there's something about this like complete

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<v Speaker 3>fracturization of the show that is simultaneously boring and hard

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<v Speaker 3>to watch for me at least. And I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>like I get that Melissa and Teresa had this like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, explosive like legendary blow up fight between their families,

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<v Speaker 3>but for me, it's just like tragic and also just

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<v Speaker 3>not entertaining. Like I can watch tragedy if it's compelling

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<v Speaker 3>and entertaining, but it's to me, it's just really boring.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's some people on the show that I could

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<v Speaker 3>like cut off quickly and I don't care about and

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<v Speaker 3>I just think they're boring. And I know that sounds terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, this is not a democracy. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're on TV because you're entertaining, and if you're boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Markearet Josephs, you should leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>I find her so boring. So boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Ladies jeltimate and they now you see why Being Megan

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<v Speaker 2>are good friends because Jesus, it's like that US Weekly of.

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<v Speaker 1>That segment because it's in print.

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<v Speaker 2>But remember how US weeklys to have celebrities, they're just

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<v Speaker 2>like us. Yes, so like Ray drops Megan, she's just

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<v Speaker 2>like us.

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<v Speaker 1>She she she says how she feels, and she means

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<v Speaker 1>what she says.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think Margaret Josephs is boring, tell me why Megan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like gives me nothing, Like she's just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like going along to get along. I don't really think

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<v Speaker 3>she has any storyline in her in her like life

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<v Speaker 3>right now that I'm I'm I like attached to or

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<v Speaker 3>responding to. And I just think there's like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people on the show that are like filler, Like

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<v Speaker 3>they're like filling time, but they're not really giving me

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<v Speaker 3>interesting drama. And then at the same time, there's other franchises,

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<v Speaker 3>which I just saw the trailer for the new OC

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<v Speaker 3>which it's gonna be amazing, And I was literally like

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<v Speaker 3>I was in my kitchen, my friend Miranda that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>texted to me, and I literally stopped everything I was doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like stopped what I was doing to watch out

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<v Speaker 3>on my phone and I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>thank god, this like real television is coming back, because

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<v Speaker 3>this is what I want at the end of my day.

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<v Speaker 3>I want like compelling, insane drama and like the John

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<v Speaker 3>Jansen of it all with a Shannon Badour and Alexis

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<v Speaker 3>Bellino like inject it in my veins. I want everything

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I want to hear everything, and like even

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<v Speaker 3>like the image of Shannon Meador. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>do you uys aren't funny? But her blowing in that

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<v Speaker 3>like retalizer with the dog staring at her because she

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<v Speaker 3>got an accident with her dog, Like it's just fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm again, do you uys aren't fantastic? But it's

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like it's a funny image. So I just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just feel like New Jersey needs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what they need. You're the EP, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what do you say? But I don't like it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And again I really like the women, like I'm I

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<v Speaker 3>really likesa. I really like Melissa Gorgat Danielle I've told

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<v Speaker 3>you I really like her. I like Jennifer like I

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<v Speaker 3>do like them. It's just for whatever reason, sometimes like

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<v Speaker 3>everything comes together and it doesn't make a good omelet.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know why, And it's not making a

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<v Speaker 3>good omelet right now.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not because for a good omelet you need

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<v Speaker 2>the right amount of cheet you need mazzralla.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it chatter right?

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<v Speaker 2>You need some green peppers or is it red pepper?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need black pepper or do you need like asian?

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<v Speaker 2>You need the right mix. And I do agree with

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<v Speaker 2>you in terms of like there's some people on the

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<v Speaker 2>cast that are redeemable, but then you have some to wear.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like this dark cloud that is hovering over the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And it used to be something to where you understood

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<v Speaker 2>the complexities of the family dynamics, which which made Jerseys

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<v Speaker 2>separate from the other franchises. Right it was family unit,

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<v Speaker 2>family drama, the Italian American in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>But Honey, nowadays it's sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like literally the Godfather, you know, it's good Fellas

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<v Speaker 2>of the show. It's it's sort of like somebody has

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<v Speaker 2>a target on their back, somebody's being marked, somebody's a rat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like did freaking like Martin Square Sacy like direct.

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<v Speaker 1>This season because it's giving.

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<v Speaker 2>Mob wives teas and that's not what used to be

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyable about the show because listen the old days of Jersey,

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<v Speaker 2>because I did seasons one and two and I remember

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<v Speaker 2>it was sort of like this call to action to

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<v Speaker 2>like give this franchise something new and different, and Bravo,

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<v Speaker 2>who's one of the best in the business. They were

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<v Speaker 2>so brilliant in terms of like, let's kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>poke fun at this a little bit by making it

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<v Speaker 2>a family show, but kind of like.

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<v Speaker 1>The Godfather too, and right, and we all thought we.

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<v Speaker 2>All thought Caroline Manzo was sort of like the Godmother, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, and even though she speaks, it's like a little

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<v Speaker 3>lower and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it was sort of like your thin is the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, who is this badass? And she was weirdly

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<v Speaker 2>enough the voice of reason. And I think, what's happening

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<v Speaker 2>this season? And I'll get into this recent episode. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot wait to update you, honeyway happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I feel bad I didn't watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, You're got It's better you didn't because I

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<v Speaker 2>get to get your natural reaction. So no, it's something better.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no voice of reason there. There isn't a voice

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<v Speaker 2>of reason, and I think that's what's missing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's what's needed. And when you learned that the

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<v Speaker 2>reunion was canceled, I know what message did that send

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<v Speaker 2>for you as a viewer.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, reunions from my understanding, which again you would know

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<v Speaker 3>this is better than me. But they get paid a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to do it. It's like a big paycheck for them.

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<v Speaker 2>You get paid three two to three episode old in

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<v Speaker 2>total for that one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And it's also like I really look forward to

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<v Speaker 3>the reunions, like I normally like when there's a big

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<v Speaker 3>reunion for a big show out, like I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 3>make Ben take the girls so I can just like

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<v Speaker 3>sit and watch in quiet and focus on it. I

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<v Speaker 3>love reunions. He hates them, by the way. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll never watch another reunion. I made him watch them

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<v Speaker 3>during COVID. I'll never forget. But I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>having it canceled altogether, to me, sounds like reboot. It

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like cancelation. It sounds like also punishment to the

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<v Speaker 3>ladies that like, you didn't do your fucking jobs, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're not We're now not going to give you a reunion.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a very very bad sign. I would

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<v Speaker 3>have watched it had it come out, Obviously, I do

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<v Speaker 3>end up watching the episodes. I'm just not like it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like Musty in the moment live viewing the way

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<v Speaker 3>like OC will definitely be like on my Google calendar,

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<v Speaker 3>like I have to watch in the night, like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's a really bad sign and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's really disappointing. And I also think that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, for me, it's like we all have families.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody who has a family drama comes with families. I

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<v Speaker 3>have six brothers and sisters. Somebody's always fighting, like there's

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<v Speaker 3>always some kind of drama. It's normal. But I can't

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<v Speaker 3>imagine being in a position where something happened where I

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<v Speaker 3>just never spoke to my family again that I never like,

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<v Speaker 3>life is so short. And I think there's something very

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<v Speaker 3>like actually kind of dark and tragic about the Teresa

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<v Speaker 3>Melissa Joe Louis situation. And I think that's also for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to think about it, like why I

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<v Speaker 3>don't like it so much, and I think part of

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<v Speaker 3>it it's like it's just very dark. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a horror To go back for a question, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a really horrible sign that their reunion was canceled.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you, Yeah, now, listen it's honey.

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<v Speaker 2>What is so interesting about all of this is the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we all said last season that something has

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<v Speaker 2>to give.

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<v Speaker 1>We all called out for it, we.

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<v Speaker 2>Tweeted about it, we talk about it on each other

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<v Speaker 2>respective podcast. It was something that was so obvious that

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<v Speaker 2>this show cannot move forward with Melissa and Teresa being

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<v Speaker 2>the same on the same show, especially when it was

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<v Speaker 2>so obvious that this is the worst it's been and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to talk to each other. And spoiler alert, Megan,

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<v Speaker 2>you may not know this or you may know this,

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<v Speaker 2>they do not speak to each other at all this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Like finale, they do not say a word to each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like last season there should have been a

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<v Speaker 2>reboot this season. What I think is happening is, look,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wants to sort of showcase that we're favoring one

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<v Speaker 2>person or the other. If you choose Teresa, the Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>fans will say, you, guys, favorite Teresa. If you choose Melissa,

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<v Speaker 2>the tree huggers, which, by the way, Megan, I've already

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<v Speaker 2>to go out at the jayl fans do not go

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<v Speaker 2>after the Trea.

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<v Speaker 3>I just on a side note, I'm in so much

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<v Speaker 3>trouble for talking shit with you on my last podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like all over the internet, even like my friends

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<v Speaker 3>who don't pay attention to stuff are like, why are

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<v Speaker 3>you fighting with Jalo, And I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I just talked too much. As Carlos. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I'm just talking shooting this ship with you,

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<v Speaker 3>my son. Thousands of people are gonna listen. Oh wait, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Talking more, man, I mean, what's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, but I feel bad now. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I can probably ruined Jlo's date. I mean to or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>I have said that on our podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, if you haven't listened, go to Citnis in McCaine

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<v Speaker 2>and then listen to the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to make sure people get the full story.

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<v Speaker 2>You even said on our episode, though, Maggot, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want it to appear that I'm like yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But that being said, I think Jlo she could use

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<v Speaker 3>some new, a new PR person. I do think like

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<v Speaker 3>she could use a younger person help, or just a

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<v Speaker 3>someone with a fresh vision of her career working with

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<v Speaker 3>her right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think, Well, you were on the Watch What

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<v Speaker 2>Happens Live recently with Melissa Gorgo?

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<v Speaker 1>How was your experience with Melissa?

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<v Speaker 2>Because the thing is this, I've never met Melissa in person.

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<v Speaker 2>How is Melissa Gorgo like our audience really wants to know,

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<v Speaker 2>like give us the tea, Sister.

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<v Speaker 3>I've actually been on Watch What Happens Live with her

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<v Speaker 3>more than once. She was Actually when I was on

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<v Speaker 3>Watch Happens Live before the pandemic hit, she was like

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<v Speaker 3>the person like that. The live show I did was

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<v Speaker 3>with her as well, so it was funny. I haven't

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<v Speaker 3>gone on in person since the pandemic, so I have

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<v Speaker 3>to say, first of all, she is speaking of j Lo.

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<v Speaker 3>I told her, you look like j Lo to me, like,

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<v Speaker 3>she's just there's not a blemish on that woman's body.

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<v Speaker 3>She's forty five, because she told me, And she's just,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, stunning. I don't know what these women are

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<v Speaker 3>doing in New Jersey, but I don't look like Melissa.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gorgeous. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, this is so funny. I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 3>I put pictures on my Instagram up afterward, and my

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<v Speaker 3>brother who is in the army and is deployed right now,

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<v Speaker 3>who like hardly ever checks his phone and never messages me.

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<v Speaker 3>They can only do it like at certain times. And

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<v Speaker 3>he texted me and he goes who it said, she's

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<v Speaker 3>so hot, and I told him Melissa. I went back

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<v Speaker 3>because she demed her and I was like, just FYI,

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<v Speaker 3>you made my brother's day.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that for Melissa. So on the podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>call her Melissa Lopez. So this is good. This is good.

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<v Speaker 3>She does look like they really do look like they

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<v Speaker 3>could be sisters or something. But she's lovely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>she's been beyond nice to me, like a very pleasant

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<v Speaker 3>like kind like when I met her before, I had

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<v Speaker 3>the same experience. She's really I really like her. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's really nice and really I had a very

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<v Speaker 3>pleasant experience with her, not like because I said j Low,

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<v Speaker 3>she's lovely, Like we didn't talk about anything like really

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<v Speaker 3>with the show. It was just like her family. I

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<v Speaker 3>think she was taking a trip to Greece or something

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<v Speaker 3>right after that, and we talked about like kids stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like boring mom stuff. But she's no. I really like

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<v Speaker 3>her a lot. But I've also met Teresa and I

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<v Speaker 3>really liked her a lot. So what are you what

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<v Speaker 3>are you gonna do. I don't want to choose a

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<v Speaker 3>fighter in this I want everybody to get along and

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<v Speaker 3>make great TV. Like that's what I want, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's a really nice person.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I know people who know her too, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all have said she's very nice. And listen, I have

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<v Speaker 2>said in nausea, I'm on this show. I think she's

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<v Speaker 2>a very, very beautiful woman. And she's a great mom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a really great mom, and she did a good

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<v Speaker 2>job raising her children. So again, I think she's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>What has happened in this season, though, Megan, is the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that Jackie Goldschneider.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she's back. By the way, did you think she

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<v Speaker 1>was boring?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? I again, I like these women seem nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to always and there's not against Melissa,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I like crazy, you know, I like drama,

0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:16.159
<v Speaker 3>Like I like eccentric people in life and on television,

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<v Speaker 3>and Jackie seems like a girl. I'd go, like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know whatever, have lunch with and like we go shopping

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<v Speaker 3>and that's great. But I like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>like a psycho bitch TV. And I'm really na gidding

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<v Speaker 3>it with these people. And I say that like respectfully,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, you know, like everybody's got a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of crazy, like the great reality stars, like the truly

0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:37.359
<v Speaker 3>great ones. There's there's like a twang of crazy in

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<v Speaker 3>it because you have to be crazy to have your

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<v Speaker 3>life films in that way and like, you know, live

0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.680
<v Speaker 3>your life in this fish bowl in this way. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>I think she seems like a perfectly nice person. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just surprised she's back. It seems like bringing up drama

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<v Speaker 3>for the show, like like what she kind of didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really do when.

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<v Speaker 2>She was on before, Well that was the thing so

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<v Speaker 2>obviously when she was on the show full time because

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<v Speaker 2>she's a friend of you know now, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie versus Teresa. What's been happening this season though, Megan

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<v Speaker 2>is Jackie and Teresa are friends, and Jackie, who used

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<v Speaker 2>to be like close friends with Melissa and Margaret, she's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of distancing herself away from that collective, and Melissa

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<v Speaker 2>has caught her out recently saying this is on the

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<v Speaker 2>show last week saying that why are you defending Teresa?

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<v Speaker 2>Teresa also somebody who tried to bring your marriage and

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<v Speaker 2>all these things and Jackie said, Melissa, I see.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to take me backwards. Me and Teresa have

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<v Speaker 2>moved on. I see what you're doing. I'm not falling

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<v Speaker 2>for it. So it did appear to be this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like alliance that was forming with the show. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it appears that Jackie is team Teresa and team Jennifer Aiden.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have said that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackie is doing this because she's trying to make herself

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<v Speaker 2>relevant by doing the total opposite of what's expected of

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<v Speaker 2>her in order to have staying power on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that, I think, and I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>just her behavior switching. It's almost sometimes like reality stars

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<v Speaker 3>when they're demoted, because I think like Countess Luanne was

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.760
<v Speaker 3>a friend of for she was. Yeah, Like there's definitely

0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.879
<v Speaker 3>when you're demoted a friend of like sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're trying to get back on with the airtime and

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<v Speaker 3>trying to like be a big look you and I

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<v Speaker 3>know better than anybody like that red light and camera

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.280
<v Speaker 3>and being on TV is like it's heroin to some people.

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 3>It's not to me, thank god, but like to some

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.920
<v Speaker 3>people it is. It is the thing that gets them

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<v Speaker 3>going in the morning. It's the only thing that matters.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, once you've had it, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have it again. I know, even just like for

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<v Speaker 3>me going from like being on TV every day for

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<v Speaker 3>like almost eight years and including other shows I hosted

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<v Speaker 3>before I coosed de View, and then coming off of it,

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<v Speaker 3>there isn't a dream and like rush that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to like go let go of. So I think, like

0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 3>maybe Jackie just misses it and wants to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, be on the show again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's so interesting is because I've always compared

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<v Speaker 2>the View to the Real Housewives, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think, yes, And you need villains.

0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:25.359
<v Speaker 1>For the people at the bag.

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<v Speaker 3>You need a foil Oh my god, kiss, Someone responded

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.280
<v Speaker 3>relate to like villains on Housewives. I'm always like, get up, break,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody's gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone please Meghan Rosie Elizabeth Hasselback be pleased.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that too much for a girl to

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<v Speaker 1>ask for? I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always said the View to me was like the

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives in the sense, uh you had what we

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<v Speaker 2>call the the archetype, the girl next door, Sarah Haynes

0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Roy you know the book smart person. In this case,

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that would be Sunny Houston. And then at one point

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 2>I was Starr Jones, you sort of and then.

0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:12.159
<v Speaker 1>You have your Queen Bee.

0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:14.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, it was Rosie one point Mayor de Vieira

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<v Speaker 2>now woo be Goberg.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had your bill it Meggan.

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<v Speaker 2>McKay, Elizabeth Assa back and again Rosie o'donald. So what

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<v Speaker 2>was interesting is what I love about you because again

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm going someplace with this rain drop, so keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>Is I'm making a point here.

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<v Speaker 2>When a housewife either leaves the show or gets demoted,

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:44.920
<v Speaker 2>there is this sort of thirst of I missed the cameras,

0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 2>I missed the I missed the action.

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to get involved in it more.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when they quit, they still have this this need

0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to like get back there. What I appreciate about you

0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:59.560
<v Speaker 2>is the moment you quit the view, you weren't thirsty

0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:01.720
<v Speaker 2>to get back on TV, because I remember talking to

0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 2>you and You're like, I got so many offers for

0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>me and ban your husband to do a show. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember telling you, Megan, I would watch that like

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<v Speaker 2>every fucking day, like that's my morning, Joe, Like you

0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 2>give me that girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>I still want us to do that, like to do

0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.720
<v Speaker 3>like a and I like Joe and Meek. I'm friends

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.879
<v Speaker 3>with them on Morning Joe, but like they want us

0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 3>to do like the conservative version of that. And let

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:30.400
<v Speaker 3>me tell you, like An and Night's politics don't align

0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:34.520
<v Speaker 3>completely and be like it would my marriage. I went

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.080
<v Speaker 3>roun my marriage because both of us are like workhorses,

0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and I would be like we would fight so much,

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.800
<v Speaker 3>and then I have a hard time disconnecting and not

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.600
<v Speaker 3>making things personal. That's just me, like and like, don't

0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 3>be mean to me, like even on air, off air,

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 3>so it would never work. But yeah, I don't. I

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 3>don't really like it sounds. I'm doing this podcast it's film,

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 3>but we only have to tape once a week all day,

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 3>which is really nice. And I actually don't love being

0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.679
<v Speaker 3>on TV the way a lot of people do. And

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<v Speaker 3>I what saved me is having being the you know,

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Neppo baby, being around cameras my entire life in one

0:23:07.640 --> 0:23:10.439
<v Speaker 3>way or another. It's not as special to me like

0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 3>it's It wasn't as exciting and I just I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't miss it. Maybe I should, I

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:20.240
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I also just like hate all the like

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:21.880
<v Speaker 3>shit you have to do with bring you on camera,

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 3>like the hair, the makeup of clothes, the like spanks,

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.280
<v Speaker 3>the bu But like I just I'm so trashy.

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:33.240
<v Speaker 4>I just like, like not hav anywear makeup, So I

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 4>just don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To do it anymore.

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Crack me up.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I will say is we all miss the

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.399
<v Speaker 2>hairstyles you have fun with doing COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Carmen my amazing hair stylist by the way, who

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<v Speaker 3>still does my hair today and she does my makeup too.

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<v Speaker 3>She does both. She is like a true genius, like

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<v Speaker 3>Diamond in the Rough hair in DC, and she's like

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<v Speaker 3>the most creative person I ever worked with. And people

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<v Speaker 3>gave her shit for working with me, and she never cared,

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<v Speaker 3>which is really like, I applaud her that she never

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<v Speaker 3>she has never cared at all, which is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we love you, we love you, we love you.

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<v Speaker 2>So what advice would you give? Because the thing is

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<v Speaker 2>this what's happening on reality TV, especially as we're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>with Jersey. Jackie liked you like you said, she seems

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet. I kind of agree with you too, Like listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Jackie a lot, But it does appear this

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<v Speaker 2>switch and alliance is to get airtime, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people like Vicky Galveston, who is desperately trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get back as a full time housewife on BOC. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard for someone to have the lights, camera action and

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<v Speaker 2>then either walk away from it or they get pushed

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. What did you What advice would you

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<v Speaker 2>give someone who either walked away from a big reality

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<v Speaker 2>show or was dismissed who may we miss it? But

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean you have to thirst four because you

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<v Speaker 2>will then lose a sense of yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. It's it's interesting because for me, like I

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<v Speaker 3>had to go really radio silent for a long time

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<v Speaker 3>where I was just like not really talking to anybody

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<v Speaker 3>like in like and I just been like in media

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<v Speaker 3>circles because I was like, I just need time to myself.

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<v Speaker 3>This sounds very dramatic, but when my dad ran for

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<v Speaker 3>president and lost, he went to Sedona and then was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, made us all be like grateful for the

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<v Speaker 3>experience and grateful that even had you know, he's one

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<v Speaker 3>of like whatever twenty people. I'm sorry, there's more than that,

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<v Speaker 3>like one hundred something people in history that could have

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<v Speaker 3>been president. And then he didn't feel sorry for himself

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<v Speaker 3>and he focused on something else and moved on. And

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<v Speaker 3>I actually use that model like I went to Sedona,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't feel sorry for myself. I focused on something

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<v Speaker 3>else and I moved on, and what I focused on

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<v Speaker 3>was kids, my kids. And then at the time I

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<v Speaker 3>was writing for the Daily Mail and just start focusing

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<v Speaker 3>like on strict politics again like my work that's just

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<v Speaker 3>in like the meat and potatoes, clean cut political space.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think you just have to focus on something

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<v Speaker 3>else and trust your judgment that it wasn't right for

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<v Speaker 3>you or things come and go for a reason. And

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this sincerely, Like had I would never have

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<v Speaker 3>survived this era of the view. Just like on a

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<v Speaker 3>personal level, I love getting to work with people that

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<v Speaker 3>I love and that I'm friends with and we have

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<v Speaker 3>great connections with and like laughing through your work all

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<v Speaker 3>day is what makes life so important. And I could

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<v Speaker 3>never be in a space right now, especially because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a mother now where I'm not miserable all the time

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<v Speaker 3>and you just feel like lonely, like life's too short.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm almost forty. I'll be forty in October. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to live like that, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just not for me. Like I also feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it'll never be like take try and take it

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<v Speaker 3>as like a chapter in your life, like if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a reality TV star and you move on, or you're

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<v Speaker 3>on the view and you move on, like try and

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<v Speaker 3>take it for what it is and then move on.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, but it's I know people who

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<v Speaker 3>have left many different things and if that's like you

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<v Speaker 3>know whatever, running for president and losing other candidates who

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<v Speaker 3>never became the nominee, or people who had big jobs

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 3>and got canceled or fired like yet you know, like me,

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<v Speaker 3>they have a very hard time with life post camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I've seen it a million times. And I actually

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<v Speaker 3>talked to Brian Stilter, who is a CNN reporter about

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<v Speaker 3>this when he came on my podcast about I love him. Yeah,

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 3>he's great and he's very smart, and he was fired

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<v Speaker 3>from CNN, and he talked about how he felt like

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<v Speaker 3>he was worried he was addicted to the red light,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 3>that he was addicted to the camera, and he was

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 3>addicted to being on TV and he had to sort

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<v Speaker 3>of like wean himself off as well. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a true addiction, being addicted to being on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is, because it brings me to John Fuda,

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<v Speaker 2>who I think is addicted.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>That man speaking of addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>On television, John Fiuda, I like you save.

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<v Speaker 1>Me the mean tweets. I'm teasing, no but all josephs igh.

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<v Speaker 2>The alleged biggest truck dealer, wasn't it Burgen County?

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<v Speaker 1>I think is hilarious by the way they were like.

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<v Speaker 3>He just put like sold pot once or something. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>No see so SnO. So that's what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this past episode backet John and his wife Rachel.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a double date with Teresa and Louis.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, Teresa, get this honey. To Teresa's credit, she apologized.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>She said, look, if you thought what I called you

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest drug dealer in Bergen County that I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking about currently, I'm sorry. I wasn't talking about currently.

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I was talking which is a which is kind of

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>a back end compliment.

0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I was not talking about currently.

0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about things I was told that happened

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<v Speaker 2>in the past, right, And he said.

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<v Speaker 3>I interrupted about Teresa. I always feel like she's apologizing,

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<v Speaker 3>but she shows shade row shade, remember, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't call me, she didn't call you a raccoon face.

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 3>She was talking about Kathy. Yeah. Where He's like, that's not.

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<v Speaker 4>You're apologizing, Shane.

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<v Speaker 3>Is someone else? This is like old school.

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<v Speaker 4>And she called Kathy, I'm sorry, honey, it's Teresa isums

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so she's like, call you walk currently It's like, well, Teresa,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying he was whatever, boo boo, but well we'll take it.

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<v Speaker 3>So apology no.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was the thing that was so fascinating Megan.

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<v Speaker 2>So first of all, it was a i'll call a

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<v Speaker 2>double day. It was a two men, two men, husband wife.

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<v Speaker 2>The only two people talking the entire time was Teresa

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<v Speaker 2>and John Fuda. Rachel could not get a word in

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<v Speaker 2>edgewise because John is Jane. He is the real housewife

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<v Speaker 2>in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 2>He took the purse strings from Joe Gorga and decided

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<v Speaker 2>to like lay it on the table because he really

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be like the star of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I wasn't a drug dealer. I sold pot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was back in the day and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not accepting your apology. You you need to continue apologizing,

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<v Speaker 2>And it was sort of like John, Dear John Feuda,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you feuding with this woman across from you

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<v Speaker 2>when her husband is sitting next to you? And I

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know, call me old school Meggan mcambe, I would

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>love to get your thoughts. I just think it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>to have a ferocious conversation with a woman across from

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<v Speaker 2>you when her husband is sitting next to her. And

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like addressed the husband with that venom and

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>not necessarily the wife.

0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>And I thought that John was trying to get a

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<v Speaker 1>moment out of Teresa.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with that, and I would not come for Teresa.

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.479
<v Speaker 3>I think she's a reality TV legend and she's been

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.479
<v Speaker 3>on TV for what like almost twenty years? I mean,

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 3>how long has she been beat like a I mean,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 3>I've been watching Teresa on television since I was like

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 3>in college. I mean, and again I'm almost forty, Like,

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's a I would go so far as

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>to say Teresa's an American treasure. I love Teresa. I

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<v Speaker 3>really they could film her until I'm eighty and I'll

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 3>continue to watch it. I don't really know. I don't

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 3>watch the fight, but I will. I don't know what

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>John Fuda is doing. And I also do the de

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 3>agree it's disrespectful with Louie sitting there and then probably

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.719
<v Speaker 3>uncomfortable for Rachel, but he does seem like he's loving

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 3>being on TV and again like great love being on TV.

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Like know your rank too, you know you're going for

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 3>the queen. I'm just saying she's Theresa is one of

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 3>the greats ever, like not just housewives, but like great

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 3>television people, like of all time. And I think her

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 3>statements when she's like I've given birth, I've gone to jail,

0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I've buried my children, or I'm sorry, I buried my parents,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 3>like all the things that she said she's done on TV,

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 3>like she lays it out there. She does not hide

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 3>some of these housewives that we've talked about in the past,

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.840
<v Speaker 3>like and Beverly Hills and whatever that I have to

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 3>read on the seventy Bravo Instagram accounts I follow get

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 3>my UNI and they're not being honest. Like I'm fucking

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 3>over it. I am over it. Hear me. Now, Carlo

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 3>is King, if you are not gonna be a reality

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 3>TV star showing me your entire life. Don't be a

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 3>reality TV star. What's the point. If you're gonna be

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 3>like guarded and only want to show safe things, then

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't think you deserve your your your what

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 3>Jersey doesn't hold anything. I was gonna say, I don't

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 3>know what you don't hold your I don't deserve her,

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 3>but they don't hold the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I could not agree with you more listening, and

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I yes, I'm biased because I worked with her before

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and she is a legend. She's an icon, but she's

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 2>not mediocre. And if she was mediocre, I would like

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 2>her and love her still, but I wouldn't be going

0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 2>hard for her as I do now. I think the

0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>issue that I have with John is, Look, I appreciated

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>last week's episode where Rachel stood up to Teresa. I

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, no, you know, I mean she was throwing digs,

0:33:28.800 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 2>which I was like, again, it's a sport, and I

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 2>like a sport. I'm not too sure I want to

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>see this sport between John and Teresa to this degree

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 2>because John Fieuda then Megan McCain, he proceeds to do

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the housewife thing, which is he got up on the

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 2>table and walked away.

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Don't shouldn't do that? No, no, I also grow up,

0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you're a man. Come on, like not to be like whatever,

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 3>but come on, ridiculous right No?

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>He he got up from his chair, honey and stormed

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>out of there and was calling her out of her name, like,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 2>but not out of her name. I want to be

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 2>very clear. He was throwing digs at her as he.

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 2>I just again, for me, it was the typical housewife

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>playbook that I expect an actual housewife to do or

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 2>a thirsty demoted friend of to do in order to

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 2>get relevance back on the show.

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and again, that's not really that. I mean, thank

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 3>you for giving me the rundown, but that doesn't sound

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 3>like the most compelling episode of New Jersey I've ever walked, Theresa,

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 3>I always want prostitution wor nineteen times engaged like you know,

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 3>the classic table flip crazy like that's how you gotta

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 3>love this stuff. I mean, it's so wild, you know,

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. That's why I really want them to

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 3>bring back real house Lives of DC. I still think

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>that's like, I know, we have Potomaca. It looks wonderful,

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 3>but like, I would love a DC reboot if it's possible.

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.280
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of Real Housewives of DC like fans

0:35:07.760 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>that's in the universe of Bravo, because I would love

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>to see a political adjacent right real Housewives show only

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 2>because of the times that we're in. And I tell

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>people this all the time. For the longest time, I

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>got my political news from the View because it was

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>met with entertainment and conversation and let's be real here

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 2>at some arguments, so.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 1>It fed me everything.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I would rather get my news from the View than

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:46.320
<v Speaker 2>watching Anderson Cooper talk about it on Andy three sixty

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 2>like I was. I was way more into, like I

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 2>need to know what they're talking about. So a Real

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Housewives of DC where it's political adjacent.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I think will be dope.

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 2>But I would need for you to be the first

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:01.120
<v Speaker 2>multiplier of Megan McCain and the Queen Bee of the show.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>Would you ever consider it?

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:05.880
<v Speaker 3>No, I told you, I haven't offered so many reality

0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 3>TVs stuff before, and I just like, I'm not. I'm

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:13.239
<v Speaker 3>not as crazy as people think, Like, just because I've

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 3>bought a lot on the View about like politics, that's

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 3>very different than throwing tables I'm actually like pretty mellow

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 3>in person, but I know some people that are good

0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.400
<v Speaker 3>and if they didn't do Real Housewives of DC, I

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.200
<v Speaker 3>do think I actually have, Like I pitched this and

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 3>no one was interested, but a reality show about Hill

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 3>staffers living together kind of like the real world, but

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 3>they have to be like ones, you know whatever. Marjorie

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 3>Tayler Green's like you know, interners. One is like you

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 3>know whatever, Jamal Bowman like like anyone. So it's like

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>left and right being forced to like co exist together.

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 3>But I am told that politics people are like rejecting

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>politics and only want to have much like me. I

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 3>guess be like you know, messy drama that's more entertaining

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 3>and less political. So I don't know, we'll see, but

0:36:58.200 --> 0:36:59.839
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of good franchises come back. I also

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 3>think Real Housewmes of Scottsdale is an untapped like would

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.120
<v Speaker 3>be an on top market as well, because scott sails

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 3>like lots of money, lots of like tech money, lots

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>of athletes, lots of like musicians. There's a lot of

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 3>like musicians that live there, and I think like there's

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.839
<v Speaker 3>like an un top show in that too.

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Did I ever tell you this. I think I told

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>you this. I pitched a scott Stale show years ago. No,

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell you this.

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 2>No, so exclusive for the rain drops and Megan apparently Okay,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>this is Girl twoenty seventeen.

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I found a group of high because Scottsdale.

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of like rich people in Scottsdale, Arizona,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and they're gorgeous and it's and it's different degrees of

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>like professions there that I was like, Oh, I didn't know,

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 2>like we had like a baseball why we had somebody

0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>in the tech industry.

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>It was.

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>It was very much diverse in terms of like their profession.

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Long story short, found this amazing group of women friends

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.280
<v Speaker 2>as well, and pitched the show.

0:38:04.239 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>No one bought it.

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 3>That surprises me.

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I know now, granted this is twenty seventeen, but Girl,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you.

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Like, I'm really actually shocked by that. I think you

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>could revisit that. Honestly, there's a lot of money in Scottsdale,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 3>like a lot. It's like Beverly Hills in the desert.

0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 3>Trust me, that's always the one I wish that would

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.400
<v Speaker 3>come because I would love it. But you know, I

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 3>guess we're just gonna have to stick with Salt Lake City.

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.200
<v Speaker 1>And with no Monica.

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know I really like Monica. I like I really.

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 3>When I went on watch Herabin's Life, I said it

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 3>was a mistake to leave her, to have her not

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.600
<v Speaker 3>come back. I like her. I think she's really messy.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 3>She's what I want, a reality star again. Do I

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.359
<v Speaker 3>want her like, you know, like talking to me about

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 3>the election?

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 3>I don't. Do I want her like you know, doing

0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 3>serious things.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 3>Is she a perfect reality star? Yes? And I know

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 3>that people are like, you know, how could they film

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 3>with her? Whatever? I bet And I have nothing to

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 3>back this up other than my own instincts. This upcoming

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 3>season of Saltlic City will be disappointing without her.

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I can just feel it, Honey, call me the Jacksons.

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Can you feel it?

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:39:13.600 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Can you feel it in the air? Like I'm with you?

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>And this has nothing to do with like this sort

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:24.320
<v Speaker 2>of you know where stands a Monica? Look, I'm somebody.

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I literally have this conversation recently with somebody. I am

0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 2>able to separate your bad behavior in terms of what

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>you did versus like what's good television? Again, if I

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.960
<v Speaker 2>look at bad behavior about like, is it an offense

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 2>that you can get arrested for?

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I mean? And spend time in jail?

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Like to that degree, it's like, Okay, that's a little

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>too much pretending to be someone's friend and to extract

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>information from them and to be a part of a blog.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>To me, Megan McCain is not the worst thing world.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not Jen Shaw. She didn't steal from old

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:05.879
<v Speaker 3>elderly people and go to jail, you.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Know, yeah, no, precisely, precisely.

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>So for me, it's sort of like, look, anyways, girl,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I definitely think that the Real House

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Squatters saw Like City next season.

0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be disappointing.

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard too much about it, which may not

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>be the greatest thing, because you at least want to

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 2>hear something.

0:40:25.840 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 3>I have to talk to you about this. Do you

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 3>believe it's Kenya Moore stuff that just came out? But

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if your friends there or whatever, but

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 3>that I'm definitely watching this new Atlanta. And I told

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.759
<v Speaker 3>you I had taken a beat for a few seasons,

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 3>just like it was too much cash shake up. I

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 3>love the ogs. I really wanted Phaeder to come back, like,

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, I want Needy to come back. I'm sure

0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:51.680
<v Speaker 3>that's not possible given their legal stuff or whatever. But

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I love Kenya Moore. But I just read this thing

0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 3>that she apparently like did something with revenge porn or

0:40:58.000 --> 0:40:59.920
<v Speaker 3>allegedly don't sue me. I don't know. It's just what

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 3>people are chattering about on Instagram, and I was like,

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that is, but it sounds insane

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 3>and I'll certainly be watching when it airs well that thing.

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 1>No, So again, I don't know much.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I need to put on my Scooby Doo hat and

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:17.320
<v Speaker 2>cop in my Scooby Doo ban and get the tea girl.

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's one of those things where we want to

0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on, we want to know what's happening.

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 2>And I do think this this. I don't think anybody

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 2>watches reality reality television to be the morality police, like

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it's it's sort of like when outlandish things occur, people watch.

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Again, I said this to you before, Megan. I stopped

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>watching Down the Pump Rules years ago.

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>I just stopped watching it until this scandalal thing happened.

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, wait, what the fuck is what and then

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:56.399
<v Speaker 2>I started watching it again. Even when you talk about

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the Real housewats of DC when when that I'm forgetting

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 2>their last names, but thank you when they.

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Crash the White House Girl.

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 3>So pictures with our President, That's.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>What I guess what I waited until, like that episode

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 2>air to be like, that's the kind of stuff we

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.839
<v Speaker 2>want to see. It's sort of like this very entertaining

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.880
<v Speaker 2>mess on the worst of your good friend Erica Jane,

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 2>a pretty mess.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>We like to see a pretty mess.

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 2>We like to be able to see something that isn't

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.320
<v Speaker 2>so like dark and there is a fine line between

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 2>darkness and like messy entertainment that we love to see.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>And again, no one's watching these shows to take notes

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 2>on how to raise your families, Like.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>We're not We're good totally, We're good there.

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We have great parents, grandparents, and we have twenty five

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:59.640
<v Speaker 2>seasons of the Upper Winfrey Show to watch and learn

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 2>something from those seasons. But we're watching reality televisionally gets

0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a mess. So the thing with the Real House of

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Watching New Jersey. Final thought, Megan, sure, are you going

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>to continue watching this season or it depends on your

0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 2>mood week by week.

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I will keep watching just because like I watch them,

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 3>but like I said, it's not appointment television to me

0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 3>right now, which honestly makes me really sad because you know,

0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 3>we look as much as it's like, I think pop

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 3>culture is really important, and I think it's really valuable,

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 3>and I think entertainers and entertainment is extremely important, especially

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 3>like in this moment in American life, which is very

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.839
<v Speaker 3>polarized and very dark and very heavy, and so I

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:51.279
<v Speaker 3>love good reality TV and I'm just really disappointed that

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the show isn't you know what I want. I love, like,

0:43:55.719 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, the New Jersey to me was like the

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 3>one that really the force multiplier to use yours, like

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>the one who really upped the ante. Like when it

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 3>came in, it was like so strong for so long,

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 3>so many seasons, so many iconic moments, and to see

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 3>it turn into this is like not great. I do

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.799
<v Speaker 3>hope that everyone involved with the show can listen to

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 3>the fans and just know, like, I don't know what

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 3>the change should be. I'm not a reality TV producer,

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 3>but I think that a change needs to happen. I

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>don't know what that looks like. But it can't go

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 3>on like this. It can't go on with Melissa and

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Teresa being the two giant stars of the show not

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 3>speaking to each other ever. And also, like I said,

0:44:31.760 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 3>there's a part of it that makes me uncomfortable, which

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 3>it's okay to make me uncomfortable and like cringe, oh

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 3>my god, like I need to text Carlos. Way, it's

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:40.920
<v Speaker 3>another to make me uncomfortable that it makes me just

0:44:40.960 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 3>sad for their family. And I think it's the part

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 3>with the kids, like when they did the baseball game

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.720
<v Speaker 3>and like the cousins they're like it was like Melissa

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 3>was telling her son like say, hiding her aunt, and

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 3>like it was just uncomfortable. And I don't like the

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 3>watching that, So that's a big feeling. But of course

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I'll still watch. I always watch. I even fucking watch Dubai.

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll watch watch, and I don't like Dubai.

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:11.439
<v Speaker 3>It's terrible so far. Except for Chanel. She's the good one, right,

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I like her. She's the one that another Azba

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 3>be basic one. I love her, but it's not Dubai

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 3>really was not the you know, it's not really where

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:27.560
<v Speaker 3>I would like my reality television to be. I don't

0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 3>even remember some of the casts of hers name, So

0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep wanting New Jersey.

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 2>I love me now, you see why me and Megan

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>our friends, because she is my kind of mess. Megan,

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 2>please let the world know about your podcast and and

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and talk to them though about what to expect from

0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, because you definitely talk about different topics as

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.880
<v Speaker 2>like the politics, entertainment. And again, I'm not on her podcast,

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>guys to talk about what's happening with Trump and Biden.

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about the reality mess. So that's why her

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>podcast is so great. But I have Megan talk to

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 2>you guys about that.

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's called Citizen McCain and you come on because

0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 3>we talk about pop culture and reality TV a lot too,

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:16.520
<v Speaker 3>because we just talk about what I'm interested in. But

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.840
<v Speaker 3>it is political in some ways, well I guess in

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of ways. But we have people from all

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 3>sides come on and really just try and you know,

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.880
<v Speaker 3>like talk out, you know, all the craziness that's happening

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:32.279
<v Speaker 3>in the world and the crazy awful election that is

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 3>the least popular election of my lifetime that I can remember,

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 3>so you know, but I'm having fun doing it. Look,

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 3>anybody you have a hit, amazing podcast. It's so successful.

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It is so much work. Never let anyone like ever

0:46:45.760 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 3>undermine anyone doing a podcast. It is a grind and

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.319
<v Speaker 3>it's so much work. And I really respect what you've

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 3>built now too, because you have like incredible guests, and

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 3>I listen to your podcast all the time, and you know,

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:59.520
<v Speaker 3>you just make so much news with so many different people,

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 3>and I love it. I mean, you know, you do

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>such an incredible work, and everybody loves you, Carlos. I

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 3>don't know what that feels like that everybody loves that

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 3>love you. I may love your show, you.

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Know, there's a couple of small groups of people, you know,

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>who are the opposite of that. But now listen, you

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 2>know I endure you, I love you, and I'm I'm.

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Such a chapping for you and anytime I'm.

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>Able to let the world know the Megan that I

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 2>know like just fun and vibrant and silly and just

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:36.840
<v Speaker 2>like You're my type of girl.

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And I'm always happy when you have me on.

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm so happy that you are on Reality with the

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>King again and we will have many many more episodes together.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you and thank you. I love you and thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for having me. And yeah, I'm just so happy

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<v Speaker 3>to be back.

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