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Speaker 2: in New York City. Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 2: and tweeting about.

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Speaker 1: Hey, rain drops.

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Speaker 2: On another episode of Reality with the King, I am

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Speaker 2: joined by my good friend.

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Speaker 1: She's one of my favorite blondes.

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Speaker 2: She's also the host of this amazing podcast called Citizen

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Speaker 2: McCain that is available on Apples, Spotify, wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the girl we are.

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Speaker 2: Miss Seek on daytime television, right, drov give it off

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Speaker 2: with my good friend Meghan McCain.

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Speaker 3: Well, Carlos, thank you so much. But you're the king

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Speaker 3: of podcasting. And every time you come on my show,

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Speaker 3: which is probably more often than you like, because we

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Speaker 3: always ask you, everybody loves it and we get a

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Speaker 3: spike in listeners because you're so popular and everybody loves you,

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Speaker 3: and even like I have so many friends who listen

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Speaker 3: to you and follow you and just think you're the best.

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Speaker 3: And you always pop up on like Juicy Scoop and

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Speaker 3: all these places I also consume. So it's really my honor.

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Speaker 3: I love I love going on air with you, and

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Speaker 3: I love talking to you because I think we have

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Speaker 3: the same interest.

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Speaker 1: No, we do have the same interest, and that's why

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Speaker 1: you know, we get a lot. We've been friends for

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Speaker 2: He Look, you know, all you have to do is

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Speaker 1: I would do it in a heartbeat. We have we

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Speaker 1: have so much fun.

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Speaker 2: And the beauty of you, Meghan is a fact that listen,

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Speaker 2: the world sees you as this political commentator. You obviously

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Speaker 2: my girl knows her shit when it comes to reality television.

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Speaker 2: And we have to get into the state of the

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Speaker 2: House of Boston, New Jersey. So have you mean keep

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Speaker 2: it up with the show this season?

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't watch last night's episode, which I should

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Speaker 3: I told you on my podcast, the baseball episode, and like, look,

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Speaker 3: you have to have relationships with people, and you have

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Speaker 3: and trust me, when things stop getting along, it'll go

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Speaker 3: and if that's like executive producers getting involved or you

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Speaker 3: just like you know, putting the show over family matters

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Speaker 3: Markearet Josephs, you should leave.

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Speaker 3: I find her so boring. So boring.

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Speaker 2: Ladies jeltimate and they now you see why Being Megan

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Speaker 2: But remember how US weeklys to have celebrities, they're just

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Speaker 2: like us. Yes, so like Ray drops Megan, she's just

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Speaker 2: So you think Margaret Josephs is boring, tell me why Megan.

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Speaker 3: It's like gives me nothing, Like she's just kind of

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Speaker 3: I want like compelling, insane drama and like the John

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like New Jersey needs.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not because for a good omelet you need

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Speaker 2: the right amount of cheet you need mazzralla.

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Speaker 2: You need some green peppers or is it red pepper?

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Speaker 2: Do you need black pepper or do you need like asian?

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Speaker 2: It's like this dark cloud that is hovering over the show.

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Speaker 2: And it used to be something to where you understood

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Speaker 2: It's like did freaking like Martin Square Sacy like direct.

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Speaker 2: Mob wives teas and that's not what used to be

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Speaker 2: so brilliant in terms of like, let's kind of like

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Speaker 1: The Godfather too, and right, and we all thought we.

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Speaker 2: All thought Caroline Manzo was sort of like the Godmother, you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was sort of like your thin is the

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Speaker 3: Okay, but I feel bad I didn't watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, You're got It's better you didn't because I

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Speaker 2: There's no voice of reason there. There isn't a voice

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Speaker 3: Look, reunions from my understanding, which again you would know

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Speaker 3: I'll never watch another reunion. I made him watch them

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Speaker 3: sounds like cancelation. It sounds like also punishment to the

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Speaker 3: I think it's a very very bad sign. I would

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Speaker 3: end up watching the episodes. I'm just not like it's

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Speaker 3: think it's really disappointing. And I also think that, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, for me, it's like we all have families.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who has a family drama comes with families. I

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Speaker 3: In fact, this is so funny. I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I think, I think, yes, And you need villains.

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Speaker 3: making things personal. That's just me, like and like, don't

437
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 3: be mean to me, like even on air, off air,

438
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: so it would never work. But yeah, I don't. I

439
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: don't really like it sounds. I'm doing this podcast it's film,

440
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 3: but we only have to tape once a week all day,

441
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: which is really nice. And I actually don't love being

442
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 3: on TV the way a lot of people do. And

443
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: I what saved me is having being the you know,

444
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: Neppo baby, being around cameras my entire life in one

445
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 3: way or another. It's not as special to me like

446
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: it's It wasn't as exciting and I just I don't know,

447
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't miss it. Maybe I should, I

448
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: don't know. I also just like hate all the like

449
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: shit you have to do with bring you on camera,

450
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: like the hair, the makeup of clothes, the like spanks,

451
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: the bu But like I just I'm so trashy.

452
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 4: I just like, like not hav anywear makeup, So I

453
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 4: just don't want.

454
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: To do it anymore.

455
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: Crack me up.

456
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: One thing I will say is we all miss the

457
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: hairstyles you have fun with doing COVID.

458
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: Hey, Carmen my amazing hair stylist by the way, who

459
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 3: still does my hair today and she does my makeup too.

460
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: She does both. She is like a true genius, like

461
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: Diamond in the Rough hair in DC, and she's like

462
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: the most creative person I ever worked with. And people

463
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 3: gave her shit for working with me, and she never cared,

464
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: which is really like, I applaud her that she never

465
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: she has never cared at all, which is really nice.

466
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: No, we love you, we love you, we love you.

467
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: So what advice would you give? Because the thing is

468
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: this what's happening on reality TV, especially as we're seeing

469
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: with Jersey. Jackie liked you like you said, she seems

470
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: so sweet. I kind of agree with you too, Like listen,

471
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: I like Jackie a lot, But it does appear this

472
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: switch and alliance is to get airtime, and a lot

473
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: of people like Vicky Galveston, who is desperately trying to

474
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: get back as a full time housewife on BOC. It's

475
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: hard for someone to have the lights, camera action and

476
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: then either walk away from it or they get pushed

477
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: out of it. What did you What advice would you

478
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: give someone who either walked away from a big reality

479
00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: show or was dismissed who may we miss it? But

480
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you have to thirst four because you

481
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 2: will then lose a sense of yourself.

482
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 3: You know. It's it's interesting because for me, like I

483
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: had to go really radio silent for a long time

484
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: where I was just like not really talking to anybody

485
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: like in like and I just been like in media

486
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 3: circles because I was like, I just need time to myself.

487
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 3: This sounds very dramatic, but when my dad ran for

488
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: president and lost, he went to Sedona and then was like,

489
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: you know, made us all be like grateful for the

490
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 3: experience and grateful that even had you know, he's one

491
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: of like whatever twenty people. I'm sorry, there's more than that,

492
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 3: like one hundred something people in history that could have

493
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: been president. And then he didn't feel sorry for himself

494
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 3: and he focused on something else and moved on. And

495
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: I actually use that model like I went to Sedona,

496
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: I didn't feel sorry for myself. I focused on something

497
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: else and I moved on, and what I focused on

498
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 3: was kids, my kids. And then at the time I

499
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: was writing for the Daily Mail and just start focusing

500
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: like on strict politics again like my work that's just

501
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 3: in like the meat and potatoes, clean cut political space.

502
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 3: And I think you just have to focus on something

503
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 3: else and trust your judgment that it wasn't right for

504
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 3: you or things come and go for a reason. And

505
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: I mean this sincerely, Like had I would never have

506
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: survived this era of the view. Just like on a

507
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: personal level, I love getting to work with people that

508
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: I love and that I'm friends with and we have

509
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 3: great connections with and like laughing through your work all

510
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: day is what makes life so important. And I could

511
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: never be in a space right now, especially because I'm

512
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: a mother now where I'm not miserable all the time

513
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 3: and you just feel like lonely, like life's too short.

514
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm almost forty. I'll be forty in October. Like I

515
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: don't want to live like that, and you know, it

516
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 3: just it's just not for me. Like I also feel

517
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: like it'll never be like take try and take it

518
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 3: as like a chapter in your life, like if you're

519
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 3: a reality TV star and you move on, or you're

520
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: on the view and you move on, like try and

521
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: take it for what it is and then move on.

522
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know, but it's I know people who

523
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: have left many different things and if that's like you

524
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: know whatever, running for president and losing other candidates who

525
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: never became the nominee, or people who had big jobs

526
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: and got canceled or fired like yet you know, like me,

527
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 3: they have a very hard time with life post camera.

528
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 3: Like I've seen it a million times. And I actually

529
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: talked to Brian Stilter, who is a CNN reporter about

530
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: this when he came on my podcast about I love him. Yeah,

531
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: he's great and he's very smart, and he was fired

532
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: from CNN, and he talked about how he felt like

533
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: he was worried he was addicted to the red light,

534
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: that he was addicted to the camera, and he was

535
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: addicted to being on TV and he had to sort

536
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: of like wean himself off as well. So I think

537
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: it's a true addiction, being addicted to being on TV.

538
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 1: That is so fascinating.

539
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 2: It really is, because it brings me to John Fuda,

540
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: who I think is addicted.

541
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: That man speaking of addiction.

542
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: On television, John Fiuda, I like you save.

543
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Me the mean tweets. I'm teasing, no but all josephs igh.

544
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: The alleged biggest truck dealer, wasn't it Burgen County?

545
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: I think is hilarious by the way they were like.

546
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: He just put like sold pot once or something. I

547
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 3: don't know, it's.

548
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: No see so SnO. So that's what he said.

549
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so this past episode backet John and his wife Rachel.

550
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: They have a double date with Teresa and Louis.

551
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Teresa, get this honey. To Teresa's credit, she apologized.

552
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: She said, look, if you thought what I called you

553
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: the biggest drug dealer in Bergen County that I was

554
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: talking about currently, I'm sorry. I wasn't talking about currently.

555
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: I was talking which is a which is kind of

556
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: a back end compliment.

557
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I was not talking about currently.

558
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: I was talking about things I was told that happened

559
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: in the past, right, And he said.

560
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 3: I interrupted about Teresa. I always feel like she's apologizing,

561
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: but she shows shade row shade, remember, and she was like,

562
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: you didn't call me, she didn't call you a raccoon face.

563
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: She was talking about Kathy. Yeah. Where He's like, that's not.

564
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: You're apologizing, Shane.

565
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: Is someone else? This is like old school.

566
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: And she called Kathy, I'm sorry, honey, it's Teresa isums

567
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: you know.

568
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: That's so she's like, call you walk currently It's like, well, Teresa,

569
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't think he's.

570
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: Saying he was whatever, boo boo, but well we'll take it.

571
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: So apology no.

572
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: So this was the thing that was so fascinating Megan.

573
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: So first of all, it was a i'll call a

574
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: double day. It was a two men, two men, husband wife.

575
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: The only two people talking the entire time was Teresa

576
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: and John Fuda. Rachel could not get a word in

577
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: edgewise because John is Jane. He is the real housewife

578
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: in New Jersey.

579
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: Okay.

580
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: He took the purse strings from Joe Gorga and decided

581
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: to like lay it on the table because he really

582
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: wants to be like the star of the show.

583
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: So he's like, I wasn't a drug dealer. I sold pot.

584
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: And that was back in the day and he said,

585
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm not accepting your apology. You you need to continue apologizing,

586
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: And it was sort of like John, Dear John Feuda,

587
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: why are you feuding with this woman across from you

588
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: when her husband is sitting next to you? And I

589
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: don't know, call me old school Meggan mcambe, I would

590
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: love to get your thoughts. I just think it's weird

591
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 2: to have a ferocious conversation with a woman across from

592
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: you when her husband is sitting next to her. And

593
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: I feel like addressed the husband with that venom and

594
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: not necessarily the wife.

595
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: And I thought that John was trying to get a

596
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: moment out of Teresa.

597
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: I agree with that, and I would not come for Teresa.

598
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 3: I think she's a reality TV legend and she's been

599
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 3: on TV for what like almost twenty years? I mean,

600
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 3: how long has she been beat like a I mean,

601
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: I've been watching Teresa on television since I was like

602
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: in college. I mean, and again I'm almost forty, Like,

603
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: I mean, she's a I would go so far as

604
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: to say Teresa's an American treasure. I love Teresa. I

605
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: really they could film her until I'm eighty and I'll

606
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: continue to watch it. I don't really know. I don't

607
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: watch the fight, but I will. I don't know what

608
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: John Fuda is doing. And I also do the de

609
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: agree it's disrespectful with Louie sitting there and then probably

610
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 3: uncomfortable for Rachel, but he does seem like he's loving

611
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: being on TV and again like great love being on TV.

612
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: Like know your rank too, you know you're going for

613
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: the queen. I'm just saying she's Theresa is one of

614
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: the greats ever, like not just housewives, but like great

615
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: television people, like of all time. And I think her

616
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: statements when she's like I've given birth, I've gone to jail,

617
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 3: I've buried my children, or I'm sorry, I buried my parents,

618
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: like all the things that she said she's done on TV,

619
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: like she lays it out there. She does not hide

620
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: some of these housewives that we've talked about in the past,

621
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: like and Beverly Hills and whatever that I have to

622
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: read on the seventy Bravo Instagram accounts I follow get

623
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: my UNI and they're not being honest. Like I'm fucking

624
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 3: over it. I am over it. Hear me. Now, Carlo

625
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 3: is King, if you are not gonna be a reality

626
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: TV star showing me your entire life. Don't be a

627
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: reality TV star. What's the point. If you're gonna be

628
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: like guarded and only want to show safe things, then

629
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: I'm I don't think you deserve your your your what

630
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 3: Jersey doesn't hold anything. I was gonna say, I don't

631
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: know what you don't hold your I don't deserve her,

632
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: but they don't hold the thing.

633
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, I could not agree with you more listening, and

634
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: I yes, I'm biased because I worked with her before

635
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: and she is a legend. She's an icon, but she's

636
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: not mediocre. And if she was mediocre, I would like

637
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: her and love her still, but I wouldn't be going

638
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: hard for her as I do now. I think the

639
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: issue that I have with John is, Look, I appreciated

640
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: last week's episode where Rachel stood up to Teresa. I

641
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: was like, no, you know, I mean she was throwing digs,

642
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: which I was like, again, it's a sport, and I

643
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: like a sport. I'm not too sure I want to

644
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: see this sport between John and Teresa to this degree

645
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 2: because John Fieuda then Megan McCain, he proceeds to do

646
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: the housewife thing, which is he got up on the

647
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: table and walked away.

648
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: Don't shouldn't do that? No, no, I also grow up,

649
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: you're a man. Come on, like not to be like whatever,

650
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: but come on, ridiculous right No?

651
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: He he got up from his chair, honey and stormed

652
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: out of there and was calling her out of her name, like,

653
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 2: but not out of her name. I want to be

654
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: very clear. He was throwing digs at her as he.

655
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: I just again, for me, it was the typical housewife

656
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: playbook that I expect an actual housewife to do or

657
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: a thirsty demoted friend of to do in order to

658
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: get relevance back on the show.

659
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, that's not really that. I mean, thank

660
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: you for giving me the rundown, but that doesn't sound

661
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 3: like the most compelling episode of New Jersey I've ever walked, Theresa,

662
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 3: I always want prostitution wor nineteen times engaged like you know,

663
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: the classic table flip crazy like that's how you gotta

664
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: love this stuff. I mean, it's so wild, you know,

665
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I really want them to

666
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: bring back real house Lives of DC. I still think

667
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 3: that's like, I know, we have Potomaca. It looks wonderful,

668
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: but like, I would love a DC reboot if it's possible.

669
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 2: There's a lot of Real Housewives of DC like fans

670
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: that's in the universe of Bravo, because I would love

671
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: to see a political adjacent right real Housewives show only

672
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: because of the times that we're in. And I tell

673
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: people this all the time. For the longest time, I

674
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: got my political news from the View because it was

675
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: met with entertainment and conversation and let's be real here

676
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: at some arguments, so.

677
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: It fed me everything.

678
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: I would rather get my news from the View than

679
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 2: watching Anderson Cooper talk about it on Andy three sixty

680
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 2: like I was. I was way more into, like I

681
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: need to know what they're talking about. So a Real

682
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: Housewives of DC where it's political adjacent.

683
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: I think will be dope.

684
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: But I would need for you to be the first

685
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 2: multiplier of Megan McCain and the Queen Bee of the show.

686
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: Would you ever consider it?

687
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: No, I told you, I haven't offered so many reality

688
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 3: TVs stuff before, and I just like, I'm not. I'm

689
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: not as crazy as people think, Like, just because I've

690
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: bought a lot on the View about like politics, that's

691
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: very different than throwing tables I'm actually like pretty mellow

692
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: in person, but I know some people that are good

693
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: and if they didn't do Real Housewives of DC, I

694
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 3: do think I actually have, Like I pitched this and

695
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 3: no one was interested, but a reality show about Hill

696
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: staffers living together kind of like the real world, but

697
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 3: they have to be like ones, you know whatever. Marjorie

698
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 3: Tayler Green's like you know, interners. One is like you

699
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 3: know whatever, Jamal Bowman like like anyone. So it's like

700
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: left and right being forced to like co exist together.

701
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: But I am told that politics people are like rejecting

702
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: politics and only want to have much like me. I

703
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: guess be like you know, messy drama that's more entertaining

704
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 3: and less political. So I don't know, we'll see, but

705
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: there's a lot of good franchises come back. I also

706
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: think Real Housewmes of Scottsdale is an untapped like would

707
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: be an on top market as well, because scott sails

708
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 3: like lots of money, lots of like tech money, lots

709
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: of athletes, lots of like musicians. There's a lot of

710
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: like musicians that live there, and I think like there's

711
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 3: like an un top show in that too.

712
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you this. I think I told

713
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: you this. I pitched a scott Stale show years ago. No,

714
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you this.

715
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 2: No, so exclusive for the rain drops and Megan apparently Okay,

716
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: this is Girl twoenty seventeen.

717
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I found a group of high because Scottsdale.

718
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like rich people in Scottsdale, Arizona,

719
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: and they're gorgeous and it's and it's different degrees of

720
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: like professions there that I was like, Oh, I didn't know,

721
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: like we had like a baseball why we had somebody

722
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: in the tech industry.

723
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 3: It was.

724
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: It was very much diverse in terms of like their profession.

725
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: Long story short, found this amazing group of women friends

726
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 2: as well, and pitched the show.

727
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: No one bought it.

728
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: That surprises me.

729
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: I know now, granted this is twenty seventeen, but Girl,

730
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

731
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: Like, I'm really actually shocked by that. I think you

732
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: could revisit that. Honestly, there's a lot of money in Scottsdale,

733
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: like a lot. It's like Beverly Hills in the desert.

734
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: Trust me, that's always the one I wish that would

735
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 3: come because I would love it. But you know, I

736
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: guess we're just gonna have to stick with Salt Lake City.

737
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: And with no Monica.

738
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I really like Monica. I like I really.

739
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: When I went on watch Herabin's Life, I said it

740
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: was a mistake to leave her, to have her not

741
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: come back. I like her. I think she's really messy.

742
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: She's what I want, a reality star again. Do I

743
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 3: want her like, you know, like talking to me about

744
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 3: the election?

745
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: No?

746
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 3: I don't. Do I want her like you know, doing

747
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 3: serious things.

748
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: No?

749
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: Is she a perfect reality star? Yes? And I know

750
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: that people are like, you know, how could they film

751
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 3: with her? Whatever? I bet And I have nothing to

752
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 3: back this up other than my own instincts. This upcoming

753
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 3: season of Saltlic City will be disappointing without her.

754
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: I can just feel it, Honey, call me the Jacksons.

755
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Can you feel it?

756
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Like?

757
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: Can you feel it in the air? Like I'm with you?

758
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: And this has nothing to do with like this sort

759
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 2: of you know where stands a Monica? Look, I'm somebody.

760
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: I literally have this conversation recently with somebody. I am

761
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 2: able to separate your bad behavior in terms of what

762
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: you did versus like what's good television? Again, if I

763
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: look at bad behavior about like, is it an offense

764
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 2: that you can get arrested for?

765
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And spend time in jail?

766
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Like to that degree, it's like, Okay, that's a little

767
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: too much pretending to be someone's friend and to extract

768
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: information from them and to be a part of a blog.

769
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: To me, Megan McCain is not the worst thing world.

770
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: No, it's not Jen Shaw. She didn't steal from old

771
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 3: elderly people and go to jail, you.

772
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, no, precisely, precisely.

773
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: So for me, it's sort of like, look, anyways, girl,

774
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I definitely think that the Real House

775
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: Squatters saw Like City next season.

776
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: It's going to be disappointing.

777
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: I haven't heard too much about it, which may not

778
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: be the greatest thing, because you at least want to

779
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: hear something.

780
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: I have to talk to you about this. Do you

781
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: believe it's Kenya Moore stuff that just came out? But

782
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if your friends there or whatever, but

783
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 3: that I'm definitely watching this new Atlanta. And I told

784
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: you I had taken a beat for a few seasons,

785
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: just like it was too much cash shake up. I

786
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: love the ogs. I really wanted Phaeder to come back, like,

787
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: you know, I want Needy to come back. I'm sure

788
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 3: that's not possible given their legal stuff or whatever. But

789
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: I love Kenya Moore. But I just read this thing

790
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: that she apparently like did something with revenge porn or

791
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: allegedly don't sue me. I don't know. It's just what

792
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: people are chattering about on Instagram, and I was like,

793
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, but it sounds insane

794
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: and I'll certainly be watching when it airs well that thing.

795
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: No, So again, I don't know much.

796
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: I need to put on my Scooby Doo hat and

797
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 2: cop in my Scooby Doo ban and get the tea girl.

798
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where we want to

799
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 2: know what's going on, we want to know what's happening.

800
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: And I do think this this. I don't think anybody

801
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: watches reality reality television to be the morality police, like

802
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: it's it's sort of like when outlandish things occur, people watch.

803
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: Again, I said this to you before, Megan. I stopped

804
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: watching Down the Pump Rules years ago.

805
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: I just stopped watching it until this scandalal thing happened.

806
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, what the fuck is what and then

807
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: I started watching it again. Even when you talk about

808
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: the Real housewats of DC when when that I'm forgetting

809
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: their last names, but thank you when they.

810
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Crash the White House Girl.

811
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: So pictures with our President, That's.

812
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: What I guess what I waited until, like that episode

813
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: air to be like, that's the kind of stuff we

814
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: want to see. It's sort of like this very entertaining

815
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: mess on the worst of your good friend Erica Jane,

816
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: a pretty mess.

817
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: We like to see a pretty mess.

818
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: We like to be able to see something that isn't

819
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: so like dark and there is a fine line between

820
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 2: darkness and like messy entertainment that we love to see.

821
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: And again, no one's watching these shows to take notes

822
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: on how to raise your families, Like.

823
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: We're not We're good totally, We're good there.

824
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: We have great parents, grandparents, and we have twenty five

825
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: seasons of the Upper Winfrey Show to watch and learn

826
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: something from those seasons. But we're watching reality televisionally gets

827
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: a mess. So the thing with the Real House of

828
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: Watching New Jersey. Final thought, Megan, sure, are you going

829
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: to continue watching this season or it depends on your

830
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: mood week by week.

831
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: I will keep watching just because like I watch them,

832
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: but like I said, it's not appointment television to me

833
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: right now, which honestly makes me really sad because you know,

834
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: we look as much as it's like, I think pop

835
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: culture is really important, and I think it's really valuable,

836
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 3: and I think entertainers and entertainment is extremely important, especially

837
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: like in this moment in American life, which is very

838
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 3: polarized and very dark and very heavy, and so I

839
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: love good reality TV and I'm just really disappointed that

840
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: the show isn't you know what I want. I love, like,

841
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: you know, the New Jersey to me was like the

842
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: one that really the force multiplier to use yours, like

843
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: the one who really upped the ante. Like when it

844
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 3: came in, it was like so strong for so long,

845
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: so many seasons, so many iconic moments, and to see

846
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 3: it turn into this is like not great. I do

847
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: hope that everyone involved with the show can listen to

848
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: the fans and just know, like, I don't know what

849
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: the change should be. I'm not a reality TV producer,

850
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: but I think that a change needs to happen. I

851
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 3: don't know what that looks like. But it can't go

852
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: on like this. It can't go on with Melissa and

853
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 3: Teresa being the two giant stars of the show not

854
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: speaking to each other ever. And also, like I said,

855
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: there's a part of it that makes me uncomfortable, which

856
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: it's okay to make me uncomfortable and like cringe, oh

857
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: my god, like I need to text Carlos. Way, it's

858
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 3: another to make me uncomfortable that it makes me just

859
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: sad for their family. And I think it's the part

860
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: with the kids, like when they did the baseball game

861
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: and like the cousins they're like it was like Melissa

862
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: was telling her son like say, hiding her aunt, and

863
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 3: like it was just uncomfortable. And I don't like the

864
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: watching that, So that's a big feeling. But of course

865
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: I'll still watch. I always watch. I even fucking watch Dubai.

866
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll watch watch, and I don't like Dubai.

867
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 3: It's terrible so far. Except for Chanel. She's the good one, right,

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Speaker 3: Like I like her. She's the one that another Azba

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Speaker 3: be basic one. I love her, but it's not Dubai

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Speaker 3: really was not the you know, it's not really where

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Speaker 3: I would like my reality television to be. I don't

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Speaker 3: even remember some of the casts of hers name, So

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep wanting New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I love me now, you see why me and Megan

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Speaker 2: our friends, because she is my kind of mess. Megan,

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Speaker 2: please let the world know about your podcast and and

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Speaker 2: and talk to them though about what to expect from

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Speaker 2: the podcast, because you definitely talk about different topics as

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Speaker 2: like the politics, entertainment. And again, I'm not on her podcast,

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Speaker 2: guys to talk about what's happening with Trump and Biden.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about the reality mess. So that's why her

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Speaker 2: podcast is so great. But I have Megan talk to

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Speaker 2: you guys about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's called Citizen McCain and you come on because

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Speaker 3: we talk about pop culture and reality TV a lot too,

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Speaker 3: because we just talk about what I'm interested in. But

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Speaker 3: it is political in some ways, well I guess in

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Speaker 3: a lot of ways. But we have people from all

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Speaker 3: sides come on and really just try and you know,

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Speaker 3: like talk out, you know, all the craziness that's happening

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Speaker 3: in the world and the crazy awful election that is

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Speaker 3: the least popular election of my lifetime that I can remember,

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Speaker 3: so you know, but I'm having fun doing it. Look,

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Speaker 3: anybody you have a hit, amazing podcast. It's so successful.

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Speaker 3: It is so much work. Never let anyone like ever

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Speaker 3: undermine anyone doing a podcast. It is a grind and

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Speaker 3: it's so much work. And I really respect what you've

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Speaker 3: built now too, because you have like incredible guests, and

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Speaker 3: I listen to your podcast all the time, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you just make so much news with so many different people,

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Speaker 3: and I love it. I mean, you know, you do

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Speaker 3: such an incredible work, and everybody loves you, Carlos. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what that feels like that everybody loves that

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Speaker 3: love you. I may love your show, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, there's a couple of small groups of people, you know,

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Speaker 2: who are the opposite of that. But now listen, you

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Speaker 2: know I endure you, I love you, and I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Such a chapping for you and anytime I'm.

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Speaker 2: Able to let the world know the Megan that I

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Speaker 2: know like just fun and vibrant and silly and just

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Speaker 2: like You're my type of girl.

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Speaker 1: And I'm always happy when you have me on.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy that you are on Reality with the

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Speaker 2: King again and we will have many many more episodes together.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and thank you. I love you and thank

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Speaker 3: you for having me. And yeah, I'm just so happy

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Speaker 3: to be back.

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