00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're a guest in my home. You gotta come to me empty. And I said, no gifts. You're presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how did you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're here in the backyard. I went to Disneyland yesterday. There's just no way of me not talking about it, not at least bringing it up, because who knows how it's going to color my behavior over the course of this episode. But that's all I have to I mean, that's not all I have to say. Maybe we will talk about it, and you can tell that I'm really just falling a part even bringing it up. Let's bring the guests on. The guest is so funny, Irene too welcome to I said. 00:01:24 Speaker 3: No gifts, thank you for having me. 00:01:27 Speaker 2: Of course, this energy I've brought today is I blame it entirely on Disneyland. 00:01:33 Speaker 3: On Disneyland. Have you been to disney I've never been to Disneyland. You've never been to Disney I've been to Disney World. Okay, which I heard is better. Anyways, I went a lot when I was a kid because I'm from the Midwest, it was right closer. But I've not been to Disneyland. I do want to go. 00:01:47 Speaker 2: Hell on Earth, really, I look, I've been so many times I've been. I think I've finally reached my breaking point. 00:01:56 Speaker 3: Why do you keep going? 00:01:57 Speaker 2: Then, Well, it's usually someone's in town. Yesterday my sister and her family were in town, so I spent the two hundred and thirty dollars I drive to Disneyland and just had a Truly, it's not a good experience. 00:02:12 Speaker 3: What's bad, Like the lines are the kids. 00:02:15 Speaker 2: It's hard to pinpoint, but like maybe four hours into the day, I started thinking, if I were to design a prison, I would I don't know that it would be exactly like Disneyland, but I it probably wouldn't be that much different. Wow, there's something. There's an element of just draining you and punishment that feels very inherent to the somebody's designed it that way. 00:02:40 Speaker 3: I think I haven't gone yet because I don't like large crowds, and Disneyland is a lot large crowds. I don't like a lot of children, a lot of kids, so really not much going for me. But I do love Mickey Mouse. 00:02:53 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one point for Disney, one. 00:02:55 Speaker 3: Point for all the mascots and the costumes and everything else. I don't like. 00:03:01 Speaker 2: Do you like the rides? 00:03:02 Speaker 3: I like a ride that's not too scary. 00:03:05 Speaker 2: Nice, gentle, right, yeah, such as like a like I don't like. 00:03:10 Speaker 3: Any of like that upside down stuff like when I would. Yes, I don't like roller coasters. I also don't like spinning teacups. Those make me ill. 00:03:18 Speaker 2: Spinning teacups late in life development for me, the nausea. I used to be able to do them. 00:03:24 Speaker 3: Oh no, I've always wanted to throw up immediately after. 00:03:27 Speaker 2: It's a horrible experience. 00:03:28 Speaker 3: I don't know how anyone has fun on those. Well. 00:03:32 Speaker 2: I think there's just like there are people built differently than you and I who I like. It's almost like a different species that's like able to enjoy just being flung around over and over and over. 00:03:43 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you like wanting to almost throw up, Like that's fun for you. 00:03:48 Speaker 2: But that's not what they're feeling. Their perspective is I'm in heaven. I'm having the time of my life. 00:03:55 Speaker 3: I don't know where I am, and that's fun, Like I always want to know where I am. 00:04:00 Speaker 2: You don't like just being completely disorient. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. I never want to be disoriented. 00:04:06 Speaker 2: Yeah, I though like get I rode the Teacups probably for my last time in two thousand and seven. I remember got off and it felt like I had had the flu for four days. I mean, just awful experience, terrible. I can't do that. But I do like a spooky ride. I like a thrill. 00:04:21 Speaker 3: Okay, I enjoyed nice little someone pops out. It's like booh, okay, you know, like that's kind of fun. For a second. 00:04:28 Speaker 2: When were you in Disney World? 00:04:30 Speaker 3: I went a lot, like as a kid, because that's where we would go for like for some vacation. Right. Yeah. 00:04:36 Speaker 2: So, and did you have a favorite ride while you were there? 00:04:39 Speaker 3: No, I don't really remember. I guess the last time I went to Disney World was maybe four or five years ago. We went with Mike, my grandparents, and we went to Epcot. I don't think there's a ton of rides at Epcot. 00:04:50 Speaker 2: No, it's kind of like a weird school fair about the world. 00:04:55 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's like a little bit of what each country, right, But not like enough, no, not enough, Yeah, nothing good. 00:05:05 Speaker 2: Just kind of vague notions of what other countries are. 00:05:07 Speaker 3: It's like, here's some food that kind of tastes like it's from this area, and it's really overpriced. 00:05:12 Speaker 2: Imagine if every restaurant in that country was a cafeteria. Oh yeah, yeah, Epcot. I think my family went there when I was in eighth grade. 00:05:22 Speaker 3: I feel like Epcot, you only need to go one time and you don't ever need to go again. 00:05:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what would there be left to do? I guess if you consider it just like a's like going to the park and you're just like walking around and a really expensive park full of Floridians yeah, and tourists. Yeah. 00:05:43 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:05:44 Speaker 2: The Disney experience is I guess I'll probably just keep getting roped into it because people keep coming to town. 00:05:50 Speaker 3: Well, why don't you go to Universal Studios. That's where I really want to go, because they have Harry Potter World. 00:05:54 Speaker 2: People love the Harry Potter World. But Universal Studios to me is just a huge, huge, huge slab of concrete burned by the sun. The last time I was there was actually at night for their what is it, Hollywood Horror Nights. Or sure horrible experience, really truly terrible. Maybe I just hate going to all. 00:06:14 Speaker 3: Of these you don't like theme parts. 00:06:16 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to just come on here and hurt. I mean, these things bring a lot of people joy, and I don't want to diminish that for other people. But the Halloween Horror Nights was bad. I think that it was just an objectively bad experience. 00:06:28 Speaker 3: Like they were. It was too scary, or it was just like that fun. 00:06:31 Speaker 2: It was not fun. I love like a haunted house. I love going through a haunted house, but this is more just truly waiting in line with teenagers for hours on end and then maybe five minutes through a haunted house, and then it's what twelve thirty and you've been through one haunted house and this was ninety dollars. That's not for me. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could just go to my parents' basement. Oh God, memories scary? Do you like it? 00:06:58 Speaker 2: Have you ever been through one of these haunted houses? 00:07:00 Speaker 3: I actually haven't. 00:07:01 Speaker 2: Haven't. 00:07:01 Speaker 3: No, I've never gone to a haunted house. 00:07:04 Speaker 2: Does that hold any appeal to you? For you? 00:07:08 Speaker 3: I am surprised that I never thought about it until right now. I was like, oh, I've never been to a haunted house. I would go right just to experience it, but no one's ever asked me to go. And like, I've never gotten a haunted house invite, and I'm not going to go by myself. 00:07:26 Speaker 2: No, terrible, that feels that's sad, strange in so many ways. Yeah, no, no, to just show up at one there. Basically it's like a big warehouse and then you wait in a line alone and then you wander through alone. 00:07:38 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's that's how you get murdered. 00:07:40 Speaker 2: Oh that's how you murder. 00:07:41 Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, there's murder involved. 00:07:44 Speaker 2: That feels like a and you know what happens. It's happening all the time. There are people people going to these things alone, certainly, and I'm a big advocate of going to things alone, but not a haunted house. That doesn't make any sense to me, no zero sense at all. But I do of a hunted house, it sounds like you're gonna have to be the theviter. 00:08:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some point could invite me whoever's listening to this podcast. 00:08:08 Speaker 2: And they can bo out. I mean, it's desperate to. 00:08:11 Speaker 3: Pay for it as well, because I don't want to pay ninety dollars. 00:08:14 Speaker 2: So yeah, those U And apparently someone was telling me recently that the Halloween Haunted Horror Nights or whatever the hell it is called. You can pay an extra like one hundred dollars to skip the lines, but then you are truly paying two hundred dollars to get scared, to get spooked a little bit. No, it's it's not happening for me, No, thank you. I would think for weeks after, Oh, I could have bought a nice lamp all. 00:08:37 Speaker 3: By several lamps, several mediocre lamps. 00:08:40 Speaker 2: Yes, a bunch of horrible lamps. Just fill your home with bad lamps. I've been drying. I've been doing some light lamp shopping recently. I need a floor lamp, and I can't. 00:08:52 Speaker 3: Those are really hard to buy. They're so hard to buy now my mom was trying to get one for our house and she gave up. 00:08:59 Speaker 2: I've kind of First of all, the pricing is pure mahem. I mean I don't like, I don't know what like the a normal price. 00:09:07 Speaker 3: For a flo I also don't know what a normal price is. But the ones we were looking at that were nice were crazy expensive. 00:09:13 Speaker 2: Like, what sort of pricing are we looking at here. 00:09:16 Speaker 3: I think it was between one and two thousand dollars. My god, but I think we were like in New Orleans and we were just kind of like window shopping and she was like, Oh, this looks cool, and I was like, that is really expensive. 00:09:29 Speaker 2: So these were like lamp boutiques. 00:09:31 Speaker 3: Yes, I think, so, okay. 00:09:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, the lamps I've been recently circling are like in the three to four hundred dollars range, which still feels like a lot of money to me. And then there are like lamps between one and two hundred dollars. I'm like, those look like they cost one hundred dollars. 00:09:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want like an Ikea looking lamp. 00:09:48 Speaker 2: I don't know. So I've kind of just given up. But it was just gonna be dark in your Yeah, I mean it has been for two years. I will just suffer. I mean the lengths I will suffer or it's a bottomless pit. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get a house and then pay someone to interior decorate my house. I do not want to do any of the. 00:10:08 Speaker 2: Furnishing, but that costs so much money. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: I know, but at least I don't have to think about it and then not buy anything, and then I've wasted time. 00:10:16 Speaker 2: Are you like, and I have an empty house? Are you efficient with time use? No? 00:10:22 Speaker 3: I would like to be, but I do spend a lot of time just like worrying or like, am I like is this the right decision? And that occupies a lot of brain space? So I would rather pay someone to do it for me and then I don't have to think about it. 00:10:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very much my mindset. I'm so bad. I'm paralyzed by decision making. Choice scares me. When you're not able to make a decision, what does that look like? Are you just staring at your phone? Are you watching TV? Uh? 00:10:50 Speaker 3: Both? Okay, yeah, a lot of staring at my phone, watching TV, just doing other tasks and then not completing the one that I was trying to. 00:10:57 Speaker 2: Decide, avoid avoid avoid, Yes, okay. And how do you ultimately make decisions? 00:11:03 Speaker 3: It's whatever speaks to me at some point, which sounds so stupid, But at some point I will decide because I'm like, oh, this is the right decision, but it takes so long that I would have rather just chosen the wrong thing to begin with, you. 00:11:17 Speaker 2: Know, right, Like, and I guess that's a good mindset of like, just make the wrong choice, then you'll know it was wrong at least, and you can start working towards the right choice to do it. I can't either. I'm I'm terrified the wrong choice is going to ruin. 00:11:28 Speaker 3: Everything I know. But you know it won't. 00:11:31 Speaker 2: Oh, of course logically, Yeah, if you look at it in any rational or realistic way, of course it's not going to ruin your life. But tell my brain that. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's just like perfectionism, you know. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: But there's no element of my life that feels like it was done by a perfection So that's also a problem. I don't know. It's uh. Things to work through, things to work through. Halloween's coming up. I don't have a costume, no costume. Are you gonna a dress up? 00:12:01 Speaker 3: Probably not unless I was invited to a Halloween party, which again, podcast, people invite me to a Halloween party, and I will politely decline unless I actually do know people at the party. I just don't like going to a party and not knowing anybody there, right, And nobody ever invites me to a Halloween party. 00:12:18 Speaker 2: No one wants scary things in their lives. Yeah, I wonder what's driving that. How long have you been in LA? I think three four years now, Okay, I think you have to be in La for about twenty five years before you get invited to a party. I think that's kind of the standard. 00:12:33 Speaker 3: The only reason to put together a nice costume is to show it off. Of course, why I'm dressing up for my apartment alone. That's sad. I had to put time and effort into thinking of a great costume just for me. 00:12:47 Speaker 2: Oh that brings I mean, that makes me very sad. Just staring in the mirror, complimenting yourself. 00:12:53 Speaker 3: Taking a selfie of my costume that nobody else saw to put on Instagram like no, thank. 00:12:57 Speaker 2: You, and then heading to a haunted house alo. 00:13:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no no? 00:13:02 Speaker 2: Does Uh can you remember the last time you were really scared by something that you felt like genuine fear? 00:13:08 Speaker 3: I mean I get nightmares a lot, Oh you do? Yeah? So probably that. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: Are they like someone's trying to kill me? 00:13:15 Speaker 3: Uh? They are pretty vivid. A lot of the times where I think it's real, I like have woken up like crying or like screaming. 00:13:21 Speaker 2: Before Oh my god. 00:13:23 Speaker 3: A lot of times it is like someone's trying to kill me, and I'm like running away, so I's trying to shoot me. I had one recently where I think it was like a travel experience gone bad where I was like skydiving and then I was gonna die. Yeah, just stuff like that. 00:13:41 Speaker 2: A skydiving dream is an interesting one, like a falling dream to have. Were you at home, like in bed, or were you in a car sleeping? 00:13:49 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I was sleeping in my bed. 00:13:51 Speaker 2: Well, but I said, I ask because I feel like I only have falling dreams when I fall asleep in the car. Oh I'm in motion. 00:13:57 Speaker 3: No, No, these are happening in my bed. 00:14:00 Speaker 2: Brain is really going to work? 00:14:01 Speaker 1: Then? 00:14:01 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:14:02 Speaker 2: Have you ever been skydiving? 00:14:03 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to go skydiving. 00:14:06 Speaker 2: What an interesting dream to have. 00:14:07 Speaker 3: Then, I don't know if it was like I was skydiving because I wanted to, or I just was forced this. 00:14:14 Speaker 2: Guy thrown out of a plane. 00:14:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, Oh, you're in a plane and suddenly I'm not in the plane. I guess I'm skydiving. 00:14:19 Speaker 2: I guess I'm being murdered. I think that's the term for that. I'm going to be murdered. 00:14:25 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:14:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a ton of nightmares. I dream a little bit, I suppose, But yeah, I feel like the last time I felt a genuine fear was probably I was camping in the Utah Mountains and there were reports of mountain lions they'd attacked people, and my friends and I had all gone to bed for the night. We were all getting ready to fall asleep, and something started pushing up against the side of the tent. And there's nothing you can do in that situation except for just, I guess, wait for the thing to go away or kill you. And so we eventually fell asleep, and I've never felt like death as close as that. The next morning, we wake up and we go out and we look at the outside of the tent and there's a single raccoon paw on the side of the tent. A raccoon had just gone up and like lightly grazed the tent and walked away. But the fear was unbelievable. Yeah, but I yeah, I guess I don't get really scared otherwise unless I'm home alone late at night and I've seen something scary recently, like a scary movie or something. 00:15:31 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't watch scary movies never. Yeah, no, try not to. 00:15:34 Speaker 2: Saw a movie called Barbarian recently that was horrifying. 00:15:39 Speaker 3: Oh I'm not watching that. 00:15:42 Speaker 2: I mean, anyone out there that wants to see a scary movie, Barbarian is the movie to see. It's an Airbnb nightmare, truly horrified. 00:15:50 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, I wish I didn't even know that this movie existed. 00:15:54 Speaker 2: Are you an Airbnb renter user? 00:15:57 Speaker 3: I have rented Airbnbs before, but I do prefer a hotel because you know what you're gonna get, and you know, even if they're bad, you can still complain to the front desk. 00:16:09 Speaker 2: Right, and the sheets are gonna get changed. Yeah, and you have that luxury of throwing the towel on the floor. 00:16:15 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can leave the room like a mess. I try not to leave it like crazy. I'm messy, but you you don't have to put it back where you found it. It's right. 00:16:22 Speaker 2: Yeah. Something I've always found weird ever, like that's I feel like an easy way to tell something about how someone behaves in a hotel is when you go in and if you sit down on the comforter and they freak out, They're like, you don't know how filthy those are? I'm like, so you've made one filthy before. That's that's the only thing going through my mind's like, so you've done something truly disgusting. 00:16:40 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like I've never thought about that. 00:16:43 Speaker 2: Like they're filthy as possible, Like it's probably clean enough. Yeah, but yeah, I tried to leave a hotel room clean enough. 00:16:51 Speaker 3: Well. I was on Twitter, which you know is a mistake always why Yeah, but I was on Twitter and there was like a why there was a thing where people were saying that there were creepy airbnb hosts that had like cameras like in the airbnb's and I was like, that's horrifying. Of course. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: I remember I when I was in I think ninth or tenth grade, I went with my brother and my dad to Alaska and we stayed in a obviously not an airbnb, it wasn't around yet, but like in this lady's B and B. It's hard to say B and B at this point without putting air in front of it. But we stayed at her lodge or whatever, and my brother had to borrow her laptop at one point because he was selling something on eBay. And this was long before everyone had a laptop. Blah, blah blah. He started looking at her search history. Oh no, and one of the things she had searched was in shower. Shower had cameras. And we also found out her screen name was Lusty Lady Linda. Oh no, so there's there's a chance that there's just footage out there of me as a tenth grade or naked in a shower. 00:17:57 Speaker 3: Oh that's not Hopefully she can't get her a personal life. 00:18:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a scary experience, and I'm sure that's happened before. 00:18:06 Speaker 3: That's so creepy. 00:18:08 Speaker 2: People are so scary. There are so many creeps. You've got to be real careful, especially after you watch Barbarian. You'll never Oh no, we've got to get back to haunted hotels. I like a haunted hotel. There's something a little more dignified about a scary hotel. 00:18:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's historic, you know, Oh there was a ghost living here. It's fun. 00:18:27 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also throwing towels on the floor. It's like relaxed at the very least. Oh, well, there's something else. I mean, I really could talk about haunted things all day, but I want to talk about something else. What you agreed to be on I said, no gifts in the recent past, and I was really excited. I thought, we'll have a nice time. I read so funny. She'll come, she'll go, everything'll be fine. And so I woke up this morning and went about my normal business, which was mostly just sitting at the kitchen counter for three hours before I realized I need to get ready. I got ready on a lease, came over, set up for the podcast, and one o'clock rolls around. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: Here. 00:19:08 Speaker 2: You come up the driveway holding a bag. I'm just going to ask you right now. Is that a gift for me? 00:19:16 Speaker 3: I may have brought a gift for you. Okay, I may have brought a gag gift for you? 00:19:23 Speaker 2: Even interesting? Okay, Well it's in a little obviously reused bag. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Yes, that is called being eco friendly. 00:19:34 Speaker 2: It's from a cannabis company. It's a nice little black bag, almost a gift bag. Shall I open it here on the podcast? 00:19:40 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great idea. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it here. And that's very small, that's reaching in reaching in this is actually there's nothing of a gag about this. I've just pulled out a four pack of flossters. Yes, why did you first. So I'm just going to plant my flag. I love these. I'm gonna put them in my bag. This is so such a. 00:20:22 Speaker 3: Do you like flossters? 00:20:22 Speaker 2: I love flows? 00:20:23 Speaker 3: Okay, this is now we can be friends. I hate when people don't flaws. 00:20:28 Speaker 2: Everyone's telling you to floss offessionals are telling you to flos Yeah, but. 00:20:31 Speaker 3: Some people just don't flass And I'm like, you need to fly. 00:20:35 Speaker 2: How often are you flossing? 00:20:37 Speaker 3: I flaws at least once a day, sometimes more? 00:20:41 Speaker 2: Wow, sometimes more? And when you say more, is that twice a day? Or is this becoming? Are you like not like ten times? 00:20:47 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, Usually I floss? Why I always floss before bed? Okay, right, you know you gotta get all the end of the day. I ended the food got end of the day. Gotta get all the food. No, no, no, that's how you get cavities and other stuff. But sometimes all floss, like after a meal. 00:21:04 Speaker 2: After a meal, if you have had like an extra like a meal with a lot of seeds, what other things really get stuck if you eat like corn, my teeth, oranges oranges? 00:21:20 Speaker 3: Right? 00:21:20 Speaker 2: Things nice and polpea? Yeah, those feel like floss activities. I'm gonna be honest, I floss every other day. I'm trying to get into more of a habit of flossing every day. And now I have these. But I recently was I did a podcast on another podcast network and I went into their bathroom and they had an amazing bathroom. They had flosss available, they had it all. I grabbed a whole handful and just threw them in my bag. Fully stole them from this podcast network. And so but now I've got this extra four and I will say we won't name the network. I don't want to shame anyone. But they were kind of in crappy packaging, so they're probably already loose at the bottom of my bag. These are in kind of a right where did you get these? 00:22:04 Speaker 3: I honestly do not remember well because I use floss, I don't really use flosters as much. 00:22:12 Speaker 2: So I just so these were just about the house. 00:22:14 Speaker 3: They were, They were around okay to be given to you. 00:22:18 Speaker 2: They were just waiting there in your drawer of gifts. 00:22:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:22:21 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like floss. I mean I usually do also use just a regular floss. 00:22:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, but these are good like on the go because I don't really like to carry floss with. 00:22:30 Speaker 2: Me, right, and also like wrapping the floss around your fingers and they're dirty and. 00:22:35 Speaker 3: Then you got to wash your hands. 00:22:37 Speaker 2: This is more like I can be in the dark of the car, pull these out and I'm flossing immediately and they reach to the back nicely. I mean, the last two years of dental everything for me has been pure hell. And I don't know hell happening. I know my life is falling apart, absolutely falling apart. No, I've I mean, I've talked about this almost non stop on this podcast, how I had a horrible dentist who has created so many issues for me, And now I'm. 00:23:05 Speaker 3: Do you have like a whack dentist as far. 00:23:07 Speaker 2: As I'm concerned. I mean, the guy has, as far as I can tell, created permanent damage in my teeth. No, so now I'm waiting on doctor Rachel to fix it all. But the appointments are bonkers. Yeah, dental appointments are It's like they tell you there's something wrong, actively wrong in your mouth, and they're like, can we see you in five months? 00:23:29 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 00:23:29 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? I don't understand. It doesn't make any sense to me, But yeah, I'm now I'm flossing even more seriously. I've got the electric toothbrush. Do you do you use an electric toothbrush? 00:23:40 Speaker 3: They don't. I tried for a bit, but I actually have kind of like sensitive gums, and I think the electric toothbrush kind of irritates it a little bit more so I actually I just use a regular and an extra soft yeah, extra soft bristles. 00:23:52 Speaker 2: Right. Why do they sell a hard toothbrush? 00:23:55 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know who is using that. 00:23:58 Speaker 2: It's every dentist will say, do not buy. 00:24:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're always like soft or like in my case, like. 00:24:03 Speaker 2: Extra soft, right, like prescription soft. Basically the herd is that for like to clean floors? 00:24:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't who's using the heart? 00:24:12 Speaker 2: Even the medium? 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never used a medium. 00:24:15 Speaker 2: They've got to just remove those from the market because occasionally, when when I was acoustic toothbrush, I would mistakenly buy like a hard one. I would blindly just grab something off of the shelf, you know, just randomly grabbing and go home. And now I've got a hard toothbrush and you're not returning it. No, So now you're trapped with this horrible toothbrush. 00:24:37 Speaker 3: And it like makes you bleed. 00:24:39 Speaker 2: Of course. I don't know that it cleans teeth. I think that it just grinds your gums to pieces. 00:24:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they sell them so then you screw up your mouth and then that's how the dentists make money. 00:24:50 Speaker 2: Look after my experience with the last dentist, I would not put it past the Dental Society or is it the Dental Association. I think it's association those people. There's something going on. 00:25:01 Speaker 3: I had a whack dentist for like a hot second, and what happened. So I've never had a cavity in my entire life. 00:25:08 Speaker 2: Oh my, that's incredible, even as a kid. 00:25:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never had a single cavity. What Yeah, And do. 00:25:16 Speaker 2: You like, do your parents have good dental hygiene as well? 00:25:19 Speaker 1: Uh? 00:25:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my mom had like a root canal at some point or whatever. But I literally never had like anything wrong with my teeth. Yeah. I was just always really good about like brushing my teeth. And I didn't eat a lot of like candy or soda when I was a kid too, something that helped. But never had anything wrong with my teeth. And I had bright you know, I had braceste and then right after I got off my parents' health insurance, I couldn't go the dentist that I liked anymore, and I moved to California, so I had to find a new dentist. So then I just had some I don't know, random dentists that worked with my insurance. And then she told me, six months after I got into my previous sentence and he said there was nothing wrong, she told me I had five cavities and gum disease. And I was like, there's no way. 00:26:08 Speaker 2: Make the lie believable. 00:26:10 Speaker 3: I was like, in six months, you're telling me I got five I mean, yeah, I drank a couple sodas. Like, there's no way. 00:26:18 Speaker 2: I think, even if you were not taking care of yourself at all, getting five cavities and gum disease in that period's impossible. 00:26:24 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It doesn't make any sense. 00:26:26 Speaker 2: And what was she like, we got to get these things filled? 00:26:28 Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, we could do it like now basically, and I was like, absolutely not. And she was like it's gonna cost three thousand dollars. 00:26:34 Speaker 2: I was like no, but please, I'm about to go out of business. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: I was like, ah, I'll think about it. Never went back. I went back to my old dentist. I begged him just like just look, you know, just and then he looked at He's like, you're fine. 00:26:48 Speaker 2: Wow, have you like looked into her since. 00:26:52 Speaker 3: I don't remember her name unfortunately, but I did look into like that place and it does have bad reviews. Wow, I fully scamming people? 00:27:03 Speaker 2: That is what. How does something like that not caught by the government. 00:27:07 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was like I had like covered California or whatever. But and I think they're just trying to scam like low income. 00:27:14 Speaker 2: Wow, that is horrible. 00:27:15 Speaker 3: They just tell you there's things wrong with your teth you got to fix it now, and you're like, okay, I don't know any better, right, grief? 00:27:21 Speaker 2: What part of LA is it in? 00:27:23 Speaker 3: That was when I was in the Bay Oh okay, yeah. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're in the Bay area, be very careful about which dentists you're going to. 00:27:32 Speaker 3: Yeah, look online, I guess check the reviews, right, DM me separately and be like is this am I? Okay, I'm just. 00:27:39 Speaker 2: Gonna be just inundated with dental requests. Yeah, that's really scary. The other thing though, about like checking reviews of any medical professional is also like most people. Most people who have a good experience at one of these things usually doesn't leave a review. It's usually the person who may have been one in a thousand that had a bad experience. So it's really impossible to tell who these are. 00:28:02 Speaker 3: But when there's a lot of bad reviews that are really bad, it's probably bad. 00:28:09 Speaker 2: Wow, that's terrible. Five cavities and. 00:28:13 Speaker 3: And gum disease. 00:28:14 Speaker 2: Gum disease. 00:28:16 Speaker 3: I was so scared because I've never, you know, had a single cavity, right, I had a like an existential crisis. 00:28:21 Speaker 2: Of course, who have I become? 00:28:23 Speaker 1: I know. 00:28:23 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm the person with no cavities and now I have five and gum disease. Like, I don't know who I am. 00:28:28 Speaker 2: Any identity has been shattered, truly. I really feel like, and I don't want to rain on your parade. There's gonna be a cavity in your future, and you've got to brace yourself for that. Yeah, you've got to start making a plan for how you're going to handle it emotionally. I know it is painful to get it filled, not the most painful thing in the world, but it's just kind of a long, tortuous experience. Yeah, and then you may end up with a dentist like me who somehow makes it worse and then you live with it for years. 00:28:59 Speaker 3: What if I just don't fill it? 00:29:01 Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. What does happen when the cavity is just left to be a hole in your tooth? Does it rot out? 00:29:08 Speaker 3: Probably? But I don't think I've ever had anything in my tooth that was even close to being like rotting out, so I've never thought about. 00:29:16 Speaker 2: It, right, I feel like that probably takes a lot for your mouth to be like considered rotting. 00:29:20 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'd have to be in pain to be like, Okay, I'll do some research on filling this cavity. Hmm. 00:29:26 Speaker 2: And like I currently have a cavity, and this it's so. It's also I feel a little ashamed of it because for the longest time I didn't have cavities. I had a few as a kid, and then never cavities. And then I think the pandemic shifted something in the way my brushing habits are something, and now I've got a cavity, and doctor Rachel it gave me months before my big appointment, So I guess it's fine to just live with it. 00:29:49 Speaker 3: I mean, does it hurt. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: Not the cavity she identified, but the cavity that scumbag drilled into last year is now hurting. I can't eat a nut, I can't eat anything hard on that side of my mouth. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: That's horrible. 00:30:03 Speaker 2: And now I'm like, do I call the dentists and tell them? And then they said, up another appointment. It's it really stresses me out. But I have these piloscers. 00:30:13 Speaker 3: I mean, that won't fix your cavity, but. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: It'll hopefully prevent future cavities and gum disease and gum disease. What you're feeling on telling somebody that they have something in their teeth? 00:30:25 Speaker 3: Oh, I do it? 00:30:26 Speaker 2: You do it? And how do you approach it? 00:30:27 Speaker 3: I go, you have something in your teeth, or I'll just point to it. I'm not subtle at all. I'm just like, fix this. 00:30:38 Speaker 2: I think that's good. I think every if everyone did that, it would be fine, fine, and there would be like because you always the person's face always kind of drops and you can I feel like the blood runs from their face and they're kind of a shame. That happens to everyone. 00:30:55 Speaker 3: Isn't it worse if you were just staring at it the whole time and said nothing. 00:30:59 Speaker 2: Of course, if I had dinner with a friend, wonderful time, we're laughing, we're chatting, I go out in the car and then look in the rear view mirror and there's something in my teeth. That person has just betrayed me, they like revel in me embarrassing myself. 00:31:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole time. 00:31:12 Speaker 2: I would never trust that person again. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: Of course. 00:31:14 Speaker 2: So I guess it's just like a policy of honesty. But it every time it happens, every time a friend has something in their teeth, I'm so scared to let them know. 00:31:25 Speaker 3: Well, how do you say it? 00:31:28 Speaker 2: Very meekly? You have something in your teeth? But I'm embarrassed. I feel bad. I feel like, but I'm doing them a favor. I'm not trying to hurt anyone. 00:31:36 Speaker 3: Of course, unless you were like, ah ha, you got food in your teeth, you know, like a bully. 00:31:42 Speaker 2: This is also, now that we're chatting about this, I'm like, what if I currently have something in my teeth and Ireen's. 00:31:47 Speaker 3: Just that would be really funny. If I, oh, I would totally tell you to get something in your teeth, and then you finish the podcast, you look in the mirror and you're like, oh my god, that's been there the whole time. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: I would burn you to the ground. I would absolutely torture. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, that's why I got you these flossers. It was passive aggressive. It was like, oh, it's supposed to be a different gift. I saw what was happening in your teeth. I was like, actually, we. 00:32:13 Speaker 2: Ran back to the car. I've got something else. You don't need this expensive watch. So before I opened this, you did say it was kind of a gag gift. What did you expect my reaction to be. 00:32:26 Speaker 3: To laugh? I laughed? 00:32:29 Speaker 2: I did laugh. Yeah, But did you think I'd be like, I'm not flossing my teeth. 00:32:33 Speaker 3: I didn't know what you would say, because I don't know what your dental hygiene standards are, right, But it's definitely not a gift that I would give normally. 00:32:44 Speaker 2: Right, right, that would be an interesting gift, like a wedding gift that unwrap in front of the parents and it's just a bunch of flossers. 00:32:51 Speaker 3: I bought you a thousand flossers. 00:32:56 Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good gift. It's really unconvention. 00:32:58 Speaker 3: I mean, I would love if someone bought me years worth of floss. I'd be like, hell, yeah, I don't. 00:33:02 Speaker 2: Like to buy a sweepstakes in never ending Floss, I'd go for it. Have you ever won a sweepstakes? 00:33:09 Speaker 3: No? But I did win a radio contest one time to meet Taylor Swift in high school. 00:33:17 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to be silent for a me. I want to hear about everything about this. 00:33:22 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a huge Swifty, huge Swift fan. And in high school they were doing this like radio promotion thing where you had to show up at this mall and you write your name on like a little piece of paper with their name, phone number, email, whatever. I brought my whole family with me. We all put our names in the like the bucket, and they drew names and actually my grandma's name got drawn. But she doesn't care about Taylor. 00:33:49 Speaker 2: She was part of the scam run. 00:33:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was like, you go, here are the tickets. You go? 00:33:55 Speaker 2: So you got to go to the concert and meet her. Yes, what was that experience? 00:34:00 Speaker 3: Well, it was also crazy because I guess my grandma didn't write her phone number clearly enough huh. So they gave us the tickets in advance, and then they're supposed to like contact you the day before for the meet and greet, like there was a whole VIP experience. Wow, And they didn't have our phone number, so like the day before, I'm like, they never contacted me, so for I had to like call like the people, like I was doing like hours of research. I'm like, where's my meet and greet experience? And it ended up I don't even remember exactly what happened, but I went to the concert, I like ran into other people like whatever. A long story short, I did end up meeting her, but I didn't get the whole VIP experience, but it still got to meet her because I was like, here's the thing where it says I want but they never contacted me. 00:34:46 Speaker 2: Yeah that's so pretty good. 00:34:47 Speaker 3: Yeah they felt bad, and I guess they emailed me some free stuff after, but I'm like, that's not the same. It's me walking around with Taylor Swift. 00:34:56 Speaker 2: Friends by now. I know, think of the path your life could have taken. Yeah, Oh, what a shame your gramma. I hope she learned her lesson. 00:35:04 Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have double checked at work. 00:35:07 Speaker 2: Everyone showed me your entries. 00:35:10 Speaker 3: Make sure the seven looks like a seven. 00:35:14 Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. I've never really wont a sweepstakes like that. I need to enter more. 00:35:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. 00:35:19 Speaker 2: I feel like at some point there was like an Oprah episode about like these people enter sweep steaks all the time and it's like what they did as a job or something. Really and I might have been inventing that, but that would be a good episode of Oprah. 00:35:31 Speaker 3: Let's like, I've ruined my life but I won one sweep steak. 00:35:39 Speaker 2: I've never heard sweepstakes singular like that, and I love that. 00:35:43 Speaker 3: Oh, I guess I don't know what this singular. I just made it. 00:35:47 Speaker 2: I think I think there should be a singular sweep steak. Yeah, it's like a much smaller It's like when you enter what. 00:35:52 Speaker 3: I want, it's a sweep steak, but yours. 00:35:55 Speaker 2: I think qualifies as a sweep steaks. 00:35:57 Speaker 3: Well, what I ended up getting was a sweep Yeah. 00:36:00 Speaker 2: But yeah, the ultimate prize, I mean at the end for you was kind of half of the experience. So did you when you met Taylor? Was it just like high so nice to meet you. 00:36:10 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was like a line of people that were meeting her. I remember she was very tall and she was wearing like high heels too, so she was she's super tall, and I was very emotional and I was like, Hi, it's great to meet you. And I'm a huge fan of Ellen too, and I knew she was like on the Ellen Show and she liked Ellen. So I brought her a gift. 00:36:28 Speaker 2: Oh my god, flossters. Yeah from the audience, Taylor, you're embarrassing her. 00:36:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're saying white oars, I could see that he's a Brocoli. So I brought you some fluss. 00:36:45 Speaker 2: Now, what did you bring her? 00:36:46 Speaker 3: No, I brought her a DVD of like Ellen's like I think it was DV Delicious, Okay, it was just like Ellen's greatest hits on the first few seasons of her talk show or something. So I gave it to him. She's like, oh, you know, she's very nice it. I'm sure she threw it away. 00:37:01 Speaker 2: Oh, I imagine she holds. It's probably in her purse right now. 00:37:05 Speaker 3: I mean, I hope she didn't throw it away, because in hindsight, I wish I had kept the DVD because now I don't own it. 00:37:12 Speaker 2: Physical media is so important. 00:37:14 Speaker 3: I have a DVD player. 00:37:16 Speaker 2: I am a huge champion. I mean despite not really using it anymore a physical media. 00:37:20 Speaker 3: My friend was saying recently he thinks that DVDs are going to make a comeback like Vinyl. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, because you know these streaming services. He's taking stuff down, wiping it off, right, And to have the power to have it sitting near a closet, people are going to learn their lessons. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Say, Taylor, mail me that DVD if you're not actively watching. 00:37:40 Speaker 2: It, that's incredible. Well what a what a sweep steak story? Uh well, I feel like it's time to play a game. 00:37:48 Speaker 3: Please. 00:37:49 Speaker 2: We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. Okay, I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:37:54 Speaker 3: Seven. 00:37:54 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some light calculating. So while I'm doing this, you have the microphone. You can reckon men something, you can promote something, you can share a recipe, you can keep talking to Taylor Swift whatever you want. I'll be right back. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well, I am a stand up comic and I'm going on tour so you can come see me live. I'm not exactly sure when this episode's coming out, but I'm going to Saint Paul, Minnesota, San Francisco, Denver, San Diego. Just go on my website irenetoo dot com for tour dates and tickets, and I guess follow me on social media at irene Underscore two. That's t you and Taylor Swift. My dms are always open. Feel free to hit me up let me know when you're renouncing the new tour. I'm ready to go. 00:38:44 Speaker 2: I think that this qualifies as like a second chance for you to meet her. I feel like this is a big We're writing a big entry form, dropping it in that box at the mall, and hopefully Taylor finds out and you get to meet her. 00:38:57 Speaker 3: Oh, I would love if anybody knows her, some drop her this little podcast clip in the box. 00:39:05 Speaker 2: She's got to hear you got ripped off. 00:39:07 Speaker 3: I did get ripped off. I mean Grandma technically got ripped off. Isn't that sad? 00:39:12 Speaker 2: That is really a sad story. And Taylor didn't mean it. 00:39:16 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's not her fault. 00:39:17 Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of no one's fault. So I mean it's a blameless situation that needs to be rectified. Yeah, and you know, they're the Swifties. It's a whole army of people working together. Maybe they could reach her and let her know that you kind of only got half the sweep Steak experience. 00:39:33 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get the whole thing. I would love to, you know, see the costumes or whatever happens backstage when you get the VIP experience. I don't know. I'll bring my grandma this time. 00:39:45 Speaker 2: Oh if you I think if you promise to bring your grandma, that's really good. 00:39:47 Speaker 3: I promise to bring my grandma. 00:39:48 Speaker 2: Okay, that'll improve your chances. 00:39:50 Speaker 3: She won't know what's going on at all, but she'll be there. 00:39:54 Speaker 2: She'll have the time of her life. Yeah, Taylor wins a new fan. This is a no lose situation for any but what we're about to do could be a lose situation. This is called the gift to a curse. I'm gonna name three things. Okay, you're gonna tell me if they're a gift or a curse, and why, And I'm gonna tell you if you're right or wrong. There are correct answers here, so just be very careful. 00:40:16 Speaker 3: Al wait, so I do tell you why? 00:40:17 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So number one This is a suggestion from someone named Eden. A listener named Eden has written in gift or a curse erasable pens gift and why. 00:40:30 Speaker 3: Who hasn't wanted to erase something that they've written in pen? That's incredible. 00:40:36 Speaker 2: Have you ever used one? 00:40:37 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, they're not great. They're not as nice as writing with the real pen. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: Sure, but I like them. Okay, gift, wrong curse. First of all, they do not work as advertises. 00:40:54 Speaker 3: They do not work, certainly, don't worry. They don't erase that well, they don't write that. 00:40:58 Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing good about I think it's cool. I love the hope of the erasable pen, the dream of the irasible pen, if that were. And look, I haven't used one, probably since nineteen ninety five, but I remember the last time I used one. It was like, I mean, it's a bad situation for everybody. It's a ripoff. Yeah, it's you write something down, try to erase it now you just have a blur. 00:41:22 Speaker 3: That's true. 00:41:23 Speaker 2: And the writing the first place is a kind of crappy looking there. What is that ink? Yeah, I don't know, it's a different type of ink. What is ink? I mean, that's a big, bigger question question I what are the what are the ingredients of ink? 00:41:40 Speaker 3: And then what are the ingredients of irasable? 00:41:42 Speaker 2: I know what is happening? I actually there must be like a how did what does that show? How does this get made? Or whatever? Yeah, they must have one on pen ink. 00:41:52 Speaker 3: I mean if they don't, they should do one. 00:41:53 Speaker 2: Right, I want to. I'm going to look into Okay, but. 00:41:55 Speaker 3: You know, side note. What I love though, are those invisibles. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: I don't know this. 00:42:02 Speaker 3: You know, like when you were a kid, you had those invisible markers where you'd like write stuff and then it would like glow in the dark or something like that. 00:42:10 Speaker 2: Familiar. 00:42:10 Speaker 3: Those were cool. It's like kind of like the ones with the UV light. Like I would draw on my legs and they and my legs look look crazy? 00:42:18 Speaker 2: That looks incredible? What is that? That's another Yeah, that can't be healthy, right. That substance is absolute poison that's seeping into your skin. But yeah, ink erasable ink, irasable pens are a curse. Zero out of one so far. Okay, that's fine. Okay. Number two this is from someone a listener named Nicole. Nicole wrote wrote in and suggested gift a curse running into someone you went to high school with at your hometown Taco Bell gift a curse? 00:42:48 Speaker 3: Oh, curse. Why I don't want to run into anyone I went to high school with? Ever? 00:42:55 Speaker 2: Is there any situation that you would like to run into somebody that you like. 00:43:00 Speaker 3: If I had, Like if it was like, oh, this was my high school bully and I ran into them and they had to like fix my car, Like maybe that, But no, I don't want to run into anyone who went to high. 00:43:12 Speaker 2: School here in a more powerful situation. 00:43:14 Speaker 3: Y's exactly where I'm like, ah, now the tables have turned. 00:43:19 Speaker 2: You're here to clean the scum out of the toilet or whatever. 00:43:22 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:43:22 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. My friend Jake has always said, I'm not The only occasion I would go to my high school reunion is if I'm the most famous person on. 00:43:29 Speaker 3: The planet, and why would you go? 00:43:32 Speaker 2: But I think that's what he's saying. He just simply will never go. Yeah, unless he's the most powerful human being alive. 00:43:39 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never go to my high school reunion. And even if I was the most powerful person alive, I'd be like, why might am I high school? Don't have a union. Absolutely, I could be doing literally anything else. 00:43:50 Speaker 2: I just found out my high school auditorium was the venue for one of the largest funerals in Utah. 00:43:58 Speaker 3: Oh, which is such a fascinating fact. 00:44:01 Speaker 2: It was for a kind of an assassinated polygamous leader. Can you imagine a weirder fact. I've been on that stage. I've been in that auditorium to learn about like like an anti drug campaign, and there was like a dead polygamous stuff. There no interesting facts about high school, Okay, but you said curse wrong gift. Wow, what an interesting thing to run into some I mean I really feel like that levels the playing field. You're walking into Taco Bell thinking that this is gonna be a private moment between you and Taco Bell, and then there's somebody, maybe an old friend, maybe an enemy, it doesn't matter. You're now both at Taco Bell, and it like there's you're there's nothing either of you can say that removes that element. How funny to run into you at Taco Belle. You're both I mean, you might be your very lowest, you might be celebrating you can do you can do anything at a Taco Bell, hit rock bottom, have the time of your life, and so you run into this person and something you have something to talk about. You're both I'm sure mildly embarrassed about this choice. 00:45:06 Speaker 3: And what's embarrassing about taco Bell? 00:45:09 Speaker 2: There's nothing embarrassing. I think it's just I think there's like an entering a taco Bell. It's like you're making a particular type of choice. You're like, today, I'm going to go to Taco Bell, and there's nothing wrong with that. But you are going to taco Bell. We all know what that means. You're going to eat a taco Bell. And so I don't know that it's it's me going to Arby's. Proudly go to Arby's. 00:45:33 Speaker 3: Nobody goes to Arby's. 00:45:34 Speaker 2: Irene, look me in the eye. I go to Arby's. 00:45:37 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've You're the second person in my life that has ever said that they go to Arby's. 00:45:43 Speaker 2: Who's the other one, Taylor Swift? No, I wish she whispered in your ear. 00:45:47 Speaker 3: No, it was another comic I think that told me that they liked Arby's. And I was like, that was the first person, And I was like, you go to Arby's. I've literally never heard of anybody going to Arby's voluntarily. 00:45:58 Speaker 2: So now, but now you understand what I'm saying about Taco Bell. 00:46:02 Speaker 3: But everyone loves Taco Bell. 00:46:04 Speaker 2: Well, I can say the same of Arby's. 00:46:05 Speaker 3: It's not true. 00:46:07 Speaker 2: I'm going to say it right now. Everyone loves Arby's. 00:46:10 Speaker 3: No one eats at Arby's. No one has an opinion on Arby's because they've never gone. 00:46:17 Speaker 2: I wonder if this you're from Chicago, right, Yeah, maybe Arby's is not a shoe. 00:46:21 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't think we had a lot of Arby's. 00:46:23 Speaker 2: Chicago feels like a proud beef town to me, and it feels like they probably have better beef sandwich options or something. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: I mean, Portillo's has great Italian beef. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: Okay, so that just makes sense to me. 00:46:32 Speaker 3: But nobody's going to Arby's here, either. 00:46:35 Speaker 2: Bridge or wineger Is. There's a community here. 00:46:38 Speaker 3: You're literally You and my other friend and I can't remember who it was, are the only people I've ever heard of my entire life that have gone to Arby's. And yet I see a lot of Arby's commercials. 00:46:48 Speaker 2: There are so many Arby's commercials and ARBs. 00:46:51 Speaker 3: People that go to Arby's and I'm like, no, thank you, and you've never been I've never stepped foot in an army. 00:46:58 Speaker 2: Well, this explains why you don't go to Arby's. An Arby's, a roast beef sandwich is delicious, and if anyone wants to well, no, I'm not gonna you know, I'm not gonna get in a fight over this. 00:47:07 Speaker 3: I will accept a gift card to Arby's listeners. 00:47:10 Speaker 2: A little experiment. 00:47:11 Speaker 3: If you go there and you think it's good. 00:47:14 Speaker 2: Wow, never been to an Arby's. But yeah, I think if I were to run into somebody at Arby's, an old high school friend or nemesis or whatever, I'd be like, how interesting to see you here at Arby's. And then they could say the same to me, and it's like, what, you can't really tell what your life is outside of an Arby's or Taco Bell. You could be living it up. Things could be absolutely horrible. But in that kind of void of these mildly shameful fast food restaurants, there are no rules. There are no laws, it's no class system within them. Okay, so I think it levels the playing field in a nice way, and it's a gift okay. 00:47:50 Speaker 3: So all right, well I'm gonna get this last one. 00:47:52 Speaker 2: You've got zero so far. That's fine. Don't let that shake your confidence. Final one from a listener named Kevin Gift or a curse Mirrored ceilings and elevators. 00:48:03 Speaker 3: Mirrored ceilings in elevators. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look up and the whole thing is mirrors. 00:48:08 Speaker 3: I would say, curse. Why They're just very confusing. I'm like, am I on the ground or am I on the ceiling? I don't like elevators in general, and I'm always afraid I'm going to get trapped in one? And I have before? 00:48:23 Speaker 2: How many times? 00:48:25 Speaker 3: Two or three? What? Yeah? 00:48:27 Speaker 2: How long were you trapped in them? 00:48:30 Speaker 3: Not long, like less than an hour, but still too long? Were you alone one time? I can't remember if the first time I was a loaner out, but the second time I was alone, that is the whole power went off. I went out on my block, and it's woe. When I was in the elevator, and what do you do in that moment? Did they still have the little phone in there? I want to use that phone. Oh there's a button. So I pushed the button, okay, and then it called the dispatch and did they talk to you? Yeah, and they were like what happened. I'm like, I'm trapped in the elevator. They're like, oh, the power's out, and they're like, well, send someone. So it probably took like forty five minutes. 00:49:02 Speaker 2: Wow, that's terrifying. 00:49:04 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and my phone was like dying too, so I was like, okay, it's just me in this elevator. I was about to die. I'm gonna die here. 00:49:10 Speaker 2: He's so scared. I mean, I've heard the elevators are more dangerous than people know. 00:49:15 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, okay, don't tell me that. 00:49:17 Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling a lot of people that now, and now I'm gonna I have a friend who will not get on elevators, and that's more of a thing she has to deal with. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Well, what if she has to go up like twenty floors. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: She does it? 00:49:28 Speaker 3: What? 00:49:29 Speaker 2: Yes, some people are deathly afraid of elevators, and it's I can't blame them entirely. They don't They've probably heard some horrible story about someone getting crushed or trapped and suffocated or you know, so many things gonna happen in an elevator. But uh, yeah, I've heard they're more dangerous than one would expect. I've never been trapped on in one knock on wood. But the mirror issue. You're saying it's a curse, and. 00:49:55 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not into it. 00:49:56 Speaker 2: I mean, I am not trying to make you lose the skin. 00:50:00 Speaker 3: Wow, I lost this one again, you completely Wow. 00:50:07 Speaker 2: What's wrong with a nice, glamorous ceiling of mirrors. It's just it's mildly disorienting. You get to look up. 00:50:16 Speaker 3: Disoriented. I mean, it's disoriented. 00:50:17 Speaker 2: We should have known when we started talking about the tea cups that this was going to be a curse for you. But I think it's wonderful. You get to look up. It's an interesting experience. I feel like if the elevator does get stuck, you can stare up at the mirror and contemplate your life. 00:50:32 Speaker 3: Oh and have a full existential crisis while book staring at myself in the trapped elevator. No, thank you. 00:50:39 Speaker 2: I love elevator ceilings in general. I think there were just an interesting thing I love, like in a movie when somebody, of course moves one of the things down sneaks through. I always wanted to try that, but I guess if it's mirrored that's probably more difficult. 00:50:52 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you'd be a more exciting. 00:50:54 Speaker 2: I feel like in a movie, you shoot it, the mirror rains down, it's so cinematic, and then you're crawling up the shaft. I welcome anything new in an elevator. I missed the little telephones. Might am I imagining that there used to be telephones in them? 00:51:09 Speaker 3: I think there were telephones in them. 00:51:11 Speaker 2: Okay. I feel like at some point there was like a little door you opened and there it was just like a phone you could. 00:51:15 Speaker 3: Chat Wise, because I was in a building recently and they had one of the whole time eat telephones. 00:51:19 Speaker 2: I would love to call somebody from that for just like to catch up. That would be so much fun, be like, hey. 00:51:24 Speaker 3: Where are you calling from? Ooh, I'm in an elevator. 00:51:30 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I I mean I hate to see this. The listener hates to see it. But at least you've stood by your choices. You didn't back down, you know what. 00:51:41 Speaker 3: It's okay. 00:51:41 Speaker 2: That's a little win for you just standing by your opinions, and I appreciate it. Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No emails people write into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com. They have problems. Everyone has a different problem. My listeners have more than most. Uh, and so we try to help. And so let's answer a question. Will you help me answer a question? Okay, this is there's some sort of cricket. I wonder if anybody hears that. If you don't, that's think it's a bird. Oh is that a bird. That's a beautiful Yeah, that's definitely a bird. That's that bird is just non stop, good for it. It's just got a lungful of air and it's sue. Oh and now it's stopped. It got a little bit. Nope, it's bash wa. 00:52:28 Speaker 3: Oh that was the cricket thing you're talking about? Thought, I have a bird from over here. Okay, But a lot of sounds. 00:52:33 Speaker 2: There sounds a lot of sounds in the world. That's one thing about Earth. There are a lot of sounds here. Okay, deer bridger and informed guest. That's a nice thing to call you, an informed guest. 00:52:44 Speaker 3: Uh. 00:52:44 Speaker 2: This fall, I have four weddings to attend. Like many people in their early thirties, twenty twenty two has been absolutely packed with weddings due to backlogs from the previous few years. Now, I don't have loads of friends. Okay, this person's kind of coloring himself as a loser, but that's okay. But four of my best ones all decided that this fall was the time for their weddings. And then in parentheses, it says, I am also in two of these wedding parties as a their honor and a groomsman. What's it their honor? 00:53:14 Speaker 3: I don't know, never heard. I know what a groomsman is. 00:53:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of this. 00:53:19 Speaker 3: Their honor is like, you weren't good enough to be a groomsman, but they still want to make you feel special. 00:53:24 Speaker 2: Oh right, right? The wedding tier of importance is will always be baffling to me. It just feels like a good area for hurt feelings. 00:53:32 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. 00:53:33 Speaker 2: Just causing drama on a lease. 00:53:35 Speaker 3: I mean, I have a here saying a man of honor is a male who holds the role of mate of honor. 00:53:40 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, we've never heard No one's ever heard of this. But this person's obviously a wedding pro. Okay, let's get back into it. So he's got four weddings this fall. Okay, the pre wedding events have taken my entire summer. The costs are absolutely stacking up. I have worked hard to manage my resentments and show up for all my friends as my which as possible, and so and so believe we are okay on that front. To make matters worse, I am also moving out of my home right after the weddings are complete. I don't know what that detail means. We can safely say I am broke. Oh, maybe that's why he's moving out of the home. Let's say I am broke, and I do not have any more time or money for these people. I don't believe I have time for crafting gifts or giving them experiences. I'm considering giving everybody an IOU card, but I feel like that's rude. What could I do about all these impending gifts? And then in parentheses, no, I don't have a plus one for any of these events, thanks Shane, So Shane, I feel like is being abused. Shane has been invited to all these weddings, doing all these jobs at the weddings, doesn't get a single plus one to any of them? 00:54:44 Speaker 3: Is it he doesn't have a plus one or he doesn't get a plus one. Oh. 00:54:48 Speaker 2: Interesting, So now it was Shane's fault. 00:54:50 Speaker 3: I was reading it as Shane doesn't have a. 00:54:52 Speaker 2: Plus Oh okay, and this goes to my way of thinking of being like, oh, if he's being abused and they're taking him for granted, so we'll just sure, I'm sure, and that's Shane's fault. It's entirely Shane's fault. Shane needs to take a letter writing course anyway, So Shane's considering giving an IOU card. What do you think about that? 00:55:16 Speaker 3: I say, just unfriend all of these people. 00:55:20 Speaker 2: Pre wedding or after now, oh yeah, pre wedding, pre wedding. I just don't show up at the weddings. Yeah, just be like I'm sick, I'm overwhelmed. No, that's not a bad excuse. I think we're I still have COVID, right, we've got I think COVID excuses are getting a little harder to bring up. Yeah, I used one recently with. 00:55:38 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like he is getting abused by his friends. So just like fake. 00:55:42 Speaker 2: COVID, he's been like driven out of his home by these weddings. 00:55:47 Speaker 3: Apparently there are details that we are missing and I am curious because I'm like, wait, why are you moving out of the home right after the weddings? And then you don't want to go? But then is there a plus one? I'm very confused. 00:55:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shane has given us a little bit of a mystery here. I mean, I will say the IO you card. Don't do that, No, I don't. 00:56:03 Speaker 3: If you're not going to give anything, just hope they don't notice. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: Right, you don't want to like put the spotlight on the fact that you're not giving them anything. Yeah, that's a bad idea. And then an io you card. Suddenly their imagination is running wild. They're like, what is Shane going to eventually give me? 00:56:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, and apparently it's going to be something small, right Yeah. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: Yeah, Just you kind of just want to like be lost in the shadows of the wedding. 00:56:25 Speaker 3: Yeah, just you're there. 00:56:26 Speaker 2: Obviously, you're kind of the there, hon or, the groomsman, all of this. Hopefully that is enough to distract from the fact that you didn't bring a gift. 00:56:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, if you're like the groomsmen and all the other stuff, like aren't you doing a lot for the wedding? Anyways? I feel like you don't really necessarily have to give a present. 00:56:42 Speaker 2: You're an unpaid employee. 00:56:44 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think on those two weddings, I don't think you would have to really feel obligated and definitely don't say io. 00:56:51 Speaker 2: You no, you don't go to work and give your boss a paycheck. Yeah, so I feel like this person, Shane, You're absolutely fine not to give anyone a gift the other two. 00:57:01 Speaker 3: If you're gonna go, just blend in and move on someone else's gift, you know. 00:57:07 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a that's not a bad idea. Just write a car that's actually now we're getting into something. You write a card with a very generic, vague message love Shane, Yeah, and then swap it with somebody else's card. Oh yeah, that must have been done before for sure. 00:57:21 Speaker 3: Or just like stick it by a present that you see if there's physical gifts and be like, I got you that. 00:57:26 Speaker 2: The biggest thing you can find in the pile of gifts. Yeah, and suddenly it's from you. Why haven't I thought of that before? That's a perfect solution. What's your feeling on destination weddings giving a gift in one of those? 00:57:40 Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't been to a ton of weddings. So I don't. I mean, I feel like society says you always have to give a gift at a wedding, right, But if I'm paying a bunch of money to come see you get married, I'm not. I don't want to give you a p. 00:58:02 Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that anyone would expect someone to bring a gift to a destination wedding. Yeah, dipping into their vacation fun for your little event. Yeah, and then you expect no, it's not you. I'm just going to tell everyone, if you invite me to your destination wedding, I will be empty handed. 00:58:21 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:58:21 Speaker 2: I may bring a card that I'll be throwing on another gift, as we've just discovered through talking to Shane, but I will not be spending any more money on you. Well, I feel like we answered that question pretty well. 00:58:34 Speaker 3: I mean, I still advocate unfriend all your friends. Then you won't need to feel guilty at all. 00:58:40 Speaker 2: And you're giving them something to talk about at their weddings. 00:58:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's grit. Wow, what a gift. 00:58:45 Speaker 2: Shane disappeared, Shane unfriended and blocked. What did I do? 00:58:51 Speaker 3: Maybe you can move back into your house? 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Oh, and then kind of get your life back on track, maybe get married yourself, and then invite them, and then they're going to come screaming back to you, wanting to win your friendship. Shane, the world is. 00:59:04 Speaker 3: You're always taking this podcast absolutely absolutely well. 00:59:10 Speaker 2: I'm glad, Shane wrote in, because I feel like we've saved his fall. That could have been a disaster and could have ended up in a horrible wedding or Winter four weddings, horrible weddings, horrible winters. Nobody wants any of that, Shane, good luck. I'm sorry you wrote kind of a letter that confused us a little bit. Well, Irene, I have my flosters, Yes you do. They're a useful gift. I probably you know. Usually I try to do a video on Instagram, but I'm not going to floss my teeth on camera. I feel like that is going to get the Instagram account blocked or something. But these will go into my bag and are going to save me in a pinch. I think about that moment when suddenly I'm getting something out of my teeth in the car, I'm like, nobody can see me this way. I'm thinking about Irene, and it's what I want you want people to think about you in a moment of panic. 01:00:04 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. That's your. 01:00:07 Speaker 2: Well, I've had such a fantastic time with you. 01:00:09 Speaker 3: Thanks for being thanks for having me, had a great time. 01:00:12 Speaker 2: Listener, go get yourself some flossers. Also, if you're driving a truck with a bunch of crap in the back, maybe strap that down. I saw one of those earlier and they didn't have any of us strap down, and I was like, put a strap over that. That feels like something I would do. And because I'm too lazy, why am I bringing this up? But it is a good thing to keep in mind. You don't want to just drive around with a bunch of crap flying out of your truck. I'm glad that I brought that up. That's important. This is the end of the podcast and suddenly I'm just dumping advice on you, and I apologize. I have to let you go. I love you, goodbye, I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by John Brandley and we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottmer. The theme song, of course, could only come from a miracle worker. Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:01:19 Speaker 1: But I invit? Did you hear? Thought a man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, you're our presences. Presence enough and I'm already too much stuff, So how do you dare to survey me