1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: But you're a guest in my home. You gotta come 3 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no gifts. You're presences 4 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how 5 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: did you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I I'm Bridgard Wineger. 7 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: We're here in the backyard. I went to Disneyland yesterday. 8 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: There's just no way of me not talking about it, 9 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: not at least bringing it up, because who knows how 10 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: it's going to color my behavior over the course of 11 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: this episode. But that's all I have to I mean, 12 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: that's not all I have to say. Maybe we will 13 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: talk about it, and you can tell that I'm really 14 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: just falling a part even bringing it up. Let's bring 15 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: the guests on. The guest is so funny, Irene too 16 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: welcome to I said. 17 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: No gifts, thank you for having me. 18 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: Of course, this energy I've brought today is I blame 19 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: it entirely on Disneyland. 20 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: On Disneyland. Have you been to disney I've never been 21 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: to Disneyland. You've never been to Disney I've been to 22 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Disney World. Okay, which I heard is better. Anyways, I 23 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: went a lot when I was a kid because I'm 24 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: from the Midwest, it was right closer. But I've not 25 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: been to Disneyland. I do want to go. 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: Hell on Earth, really, I look, I've been so many 27 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: times I've been. I think I've finally reached my breaking point. 28 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: Why do you keep going? 29 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Then, Well, it's usually someone's in town. Yesterday my sister 30 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: and her family were in town, so I spent the 31 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty dollars I drive to Disneyland and 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: just had a Truly, it's not a good experience. 33 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: What's bad, Like the lines are the kids. 34 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: It's hard to pinpoint, but like maybe four hours into 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: the day, I started thinking, if I were to design 36 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: a prison, I would I don't know that it would 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: be exactly like Disneyland, but I it probably wouldn't be 38 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: that much different. Wow, there's something. There's an element of 39 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 2: just draining you and punishment that feels very inherent to 40 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: the somebody's designed it that way. 41 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 3: I think I haven't gone yet because I don't like 42 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: large crowds, and Disneyland is a lot large crowds. I 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: don't like a lot of children, a lot of kids, 44 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: so really not much going for me. But I do 45 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: love Mickey Mouse. 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Okay, so that's one point for Disney, one. 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: Point for all the mascots and the costumes and everything else. 48 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: I don't like. 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Do you like the rides? 50 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: I like a ride that's not too scary. 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Nice, gentle, right, yeah, such as like a like I 52 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: don't like. 53 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: Any of like that upside down stuff like when I would. Yes, 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: I don't like roller coasters. I also don't like spinning teacups. 55 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: Those make me ill. 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: Spinning teacups late in life development for me, the nausea. 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: I used to be able to do them. 58 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, I've always wanted to throw up immediately after. 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: It's a horrible experience. 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 3: I don't know how anyone has fun on those. Well. 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: I think there's just like there are people built differently 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: than you and I who I like. It's almost like 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: a different species that's like able to enjoy just being 64 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: flung around over and over and over. 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, you like wanting to almost throw up, 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: Like that's fun for you. 67 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: But that's not what they're feeling. Their perspective is I'm 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: in heaven. I'm having the time of my life. 69 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't know where I am, and that's fun, Like 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: I always want to know where I am. 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: You don't like just being completely disorient. 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. I never want to be disoriented. 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I though like get I rode the Teacups probably 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: for my last time in two thousand and seven. I 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: remember got off and it felt like I had had 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: the flu for four days. I mean, just awful experience, terrible. 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 2: I can't do that. But I do like a spooky ride. 78 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: I like a thrill. 79 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Okay, I enjoyed nice little someone pops out. It's like booh, okay, 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: you know, like that's kind of fun. For a second. 81 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: When were you in Disney World? 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: I went a lot, like as a kid, because that's 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: where we would go for like for some vacation. Right. Yeah. 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: So, and did you have a favorite ride while you 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: were there? 86 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: No, I don't really remember. I guess the last time 87 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: I went to Disney World was maybe four or five 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 3: years ago. We went with Mike, my grandparents, and we 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: went to Epcot. I don't think there's a ton of 90 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: rides at Epcot. 91 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: No, it's kind of like a weird school fair about 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: the world. 93 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, there's like a little bit of what each country, right, 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 3: But not like enough, no, not enough, Yeah, nothing good. 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: Just kind of vague notions of what other countries are. 96 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: It's like, here's some food that kind of tastes like 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: it's from this area, and it's really overpriced. 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: Imagine if every restaurant in that country was a cafeteria. 99 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Epcot. I think my family went there 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: when I was in eighth grade. 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: I feel like Epcot, you only need to go one 102 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 3: time and you don't ever need to go again. 103 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what would there be left to do? 104 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: I guess if you consider it just like a's like 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: going to the park and you're just like walking around 106 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: and a really expensive park full of Floridians yeah, and tourists. Yeah. 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: The Disney experience is I guess I'll probably just keep 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: getting roped into it because people keep coming to town. 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: Well, why don't you go to Universal Studios. That's where 111 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: I really want to go, because they have Harry Potter World. 112 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: People love the Harry Potter World. But Universal Studios to 113 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: me is just a huge, huge, huge slab of concrete 114 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: burned by the sun. The last time I was there 115 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: was actually at night for their what is it, Hollywood 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: Horror Nights. Or sure horrible experience, really truly terrible. Maybe 117 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: I just hate going to all. 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: Of these you don't like theme parts. 119 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to just come on here and hurt. I mean, 120 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: these things bring a lot of people joy, and I 121 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: don't want to diminish that for other people. But the 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: Halloween Horror Nights was bad. I think that it was 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: just an objectively bad experience. 124 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: Like they were. It was too scary, or it was 125 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 3: just like that fun. 126 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: It was not fun. I love like a haunted house. 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 2: I love going through a haunted house, but this is 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: more just truly waiting in line with teenagers for hours 129 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 2: on end and then maybe five minutes through a haunted house, 130 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 2: and then it's what twelve thirty and you've been through 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: one haunted house and this was ninety dollars. That's not 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: for me. 133 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I could just go to my parents' basement. Oh God, 134 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: memories scary? Do you like it? 135 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: Have you ever been through one of these haunted houses? 136 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: I actually haven't. 137 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 2: Haven't. 138 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: No, I've never gone to a haunted house. 139 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: Does that hold any appeal to you? For you? 140 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: I am surprised that I never thought about it until 141 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: right now. I was like, oh, I've never been to 142 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: a haunted house. I would go right just to experience it, 143 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: but no one's ever asked me to go. And like, 144 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: I've never gotten a haunted house invite, and I'm not 145 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: going to go by myself. 146 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: No, terrible, that feels that's sad, strange in so many ways. Yeah, no, no, 147 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 2: to just show up at one there. Basically it's like 148 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: a big warehouse and then you wait in a line 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: alone and then you wander through alone. 150 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's that's how you get murdered. 151 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: Oh that's how you murder. 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, either way, there's murder involved. 153 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: That feels like a and you know what happens. It's 154 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: happening all the time. There are people people going to 155 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: these things alone, certainly, and I'm a big advocate of 156 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: going to things alone, but not a haunted house. That 157 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense to me, no zero sense at all. 158 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: But I do of a hunted house, it sounds like 159 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: you're gonna have to be the theviter. 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some point could invite me whoever's listening 161 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: to this podcast. 162 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: And they can bo out. I mean, it's desperate to. 163 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: Pay for it as well, because I don't want to 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: pay ninety dollars. 165 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, those U And apparently someone was telling me 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: recently that the Halloween Haunted Horror Nights or whatever the 167 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: hell it is called. You can pay an extra like 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: one hundred dollars to skip the lines, but then you 169 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: are truly paying two hundred dollars to get scared, to 170 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: get spooked a little bit. No, it's it's not happening 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: for me, No, thank you. I would think for weeks after, Oh, 172 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: I could have bought a nice lamp all. 173 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: By several lamps, several mediocre lamps. 174 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: Yes, a bunch of horrible lamps. Just fill your home 175 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: with bad lamps. I've been drying. I've been doing some 176 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: light lamp shopping recently. I need a floor lamp, and 177 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: I can't. 178 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: Those are really hard to buy. They're so hard to 179 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: buy now my mom was trying to get one for 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: our house and she gave up. 181 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: I've kind of First of all, the pricing is pure mahem. 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: I mean I don't like, I don't know what like 183 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: the a normal price. 184 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 3: For a flo I also don't know what a normal 185 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: price is. But the ones we were looking at that 186 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: were nice were crazy expensive. 187 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: Like, what sort of pricing are we looking at here. 188 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: I think it was between one and two thousand dollars. 189 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 3: My god, but I think we were like in New 190 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: Orleans and we were just kind of like window shopping 191 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: and she was like, Oh, this looks cool, and I 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: was like, that is really expensive. 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: So these were like lamp boutiques. 194 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I think, so, okay. 195 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, the lamps I've been recently circling are like in 196 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: the three to four hundred dollars range, which still feels 197 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: like a lot of money to me. And then there 198 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 2: are like lamps between one and two hundred dollars. I'm like, 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: those look like they cost one hundred dollars. 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want like an Ikea looking lamp. 201 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. So I've kind of just given up. 202 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: But it was just gonna be dark in your Yeah, 203 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: I mean it has been for two years. I will 204 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: just suffer. I mean the lengths I will suffer or 205 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: it's a bottomless pit. 206 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: I can't wait to get a house and then pay 207 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: someone to interior decorate my house. I do not want 208 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: to do any of the. 209 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: Furnishing, but that costs so much money. 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 3: I know, but at least I don't have to think 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: about it and then not buy anything, and then I've 212 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: wasted time. 213 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: Are you like, and I have an empty house? Are 214 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: you efficient with time use? No? 215 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: I would like to be, but I do spend a 216 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: lot of time just like worrying or like, am I 217 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: like is this the right decision? And that occupies a 218 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 3: lot of brain space? So I would rather pay someone 219 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: to do it for me and then I don't have 220 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: to think about it. 221 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's very much my mindset. I'm so bad. 222 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm paralyzed by decision making. Choice scares me. When you're 223 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: not able to make a decision, what does that look like? 224 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: Are you just staring at your phone? Are you watching TV? Uh? 225 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 3: Both? Okay, yeah, a lot of staring at my phone, 226 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 3: watching TV, just doing other tasks and then not completing 227 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 3: the one that I was trying to. 228 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: Decide, avoid avoid avoid, Yes, okay. And how do you 229 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: ultimately make decisions? 230 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: It's whatever speaks to me at some point, which sounds 231 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 3: so stupid, But at some point I will decide because 232 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is the right decision, but it 233 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: takes so long that I would have rather just chosen 234 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: the wrong thing to begin with, you. 235 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: Know, right, Like, and I guess that's a good mindset 236 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 2: of like, just make the wrong choice, then you'll know 237 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: it was wrong at least, and you can start working 238 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: towards the right choice to do it. I can't either. 239 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: I'm I'm terrified the wrong choice is going to ruin. 240 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: Everything I know. But you know it won't. 241 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Oh, of course logically, Yeah, if you look at it 242 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: in any rational or realistic way, of course it's not 243 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 2: going to ruin your life. But tell my brain that. 244 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's just like perfectionism, you know. 245 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: But there's no element of my life that feels like 246 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: it was done by a perfection So that's also a problem. 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's uh. Things to work through, things 248 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: to work through. Halloween's coming up. I don't have a costume, 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: no costume. Are you gonna a dress up? 250 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: Probably not unless I was invited to a Halloween party, 251 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 3: which again, podcast, people invite me to a Halloween party, 252 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: and I will politely decline unless I actually do know 253 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: people at the party. I just don't like going to 254 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: a party and not knowing anybody there, right, And nobody 255 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 3: ever invites me to a Halloween party. 256 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: No one wants scary things in their lives. Yeah, I 257 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: wonder what's driving that. How long have you been in LA? 258 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: I think three four years now, Okay, I think you 259 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: have to be in La for about twenty five years 260 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: before you get invited to a party. I think that's 261 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: kind of the standard. 262 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: The only reason to put together a nice costume is 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: to show it off. Of course, why I'm dressing up 264 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: for my apartment alone. That's sad. I had to put 265 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: time and effort into thinking of a great costume just 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: for me. 267 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: Oh that brings I mean, that makes me very sad. 268 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: Just staring in the mirror, complimenting yourself. 269 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: Taking a selfie of my costume that nobody else saw 270 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 3: to put on Instagram like no, thank. 271 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 2: You, and then heading to a haunted house alo. 272 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no no? 273 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: Does Uh can you remember the last time you were 274 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: really scared by something that you felt like genuine fear? 275 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: I mean I get nightmares a lot, Oh you do? Yeah? 276 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 3: So probably that. 277 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: Are they like someone's trying to kill me? 278 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: Uh? They are pretty vivid. A lot of the times 279 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: where I think it's real, I like have woken up 280 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: like crying or like screaming. 281 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: Before Oh my god. 282 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: A lot of times it is like someone's trying to 283 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: kill me, and I'm like running away, so I's trying 284 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: to shoot me. I had one recently where I think 285 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: it was like a travel experience gone bad where I 286 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: was like skydiving and then I was gonna die. Yeah, 287 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: just stuff like that. 288 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: A skydiving dream is an interesting one, like a falling 289 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: dream to have. Were you at home, like in bed, 290 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: or were you in a car sleeping? 291 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I was sleeping in my bed. 292 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: Well, but I said, I ask because I feel like 293 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: I only have falling dreams when I fall asleep in 294 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: the car. Oh I'm in motion. 295 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: No, No, these are happening in my bed. 296 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: Brain is really going to work? 297 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Then? 298 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: Yeah? 299 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: Have you ever been skydiving? 300 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 3: No, I don't want to go skydiving. 301 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: What an interesting dream to have. 302 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: Then, I don't know if it was like I was 303 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 3: skydiving because I wanted to, or I just was forced this. 304 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: Guy thrown out of a plane. 305 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, Oh, you're in a plane and suddenly I'm 306 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: not in the plane. I guess I'm skydiving. 307 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: I guess I'm being murdered. I think that's the term 308 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: for that. I'm going to be murdered. 309 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 310 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a ton of nightmares. I dream 311 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: a little bit, I suppose, But yeah, I feel like 312 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: the last time I felt a genuine fear was probably 313 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: I was camping in the Utah Mountains and there were 314 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 2: reports of mountain lions they'd attacked people, and my friends 315 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: and I had all gone to bed for the night. 316 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: We were all getting ready to fall asleep, and something 317 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: started pushing up against the side of the tent. And 318 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do in that situation except for just, 319 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: I guess, wait for the thing to go away or 320 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: kill you. And so we eventually fell asleep, and I've 321 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: never felt like death as close as that. The next morning, 322 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: we wake up and we go out and we look 323 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: at the outside of the tent and there's a single 324 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: raccoon paw on the side of the tent. A raccoon 325 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: had just gone up and like lightly grazed the tent 326 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: and walked away. But the fear was unbelievable. Yeah, but 327 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: I yeah, I guess I don't get really scared otherwise 328 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: unless I'm home alone late at night and I've seen 329 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: something scary recently, like a scary movie or something. 330 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't watch scary movies never. Yeah, no, 331 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: try not to. 332 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: Saw a movie called Barbarian recently that was horrifying. 333 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: Oh I'm not watching that. 334 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: I mean, anyone out there that wants to see a 335 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: scary movie, Barbarian is the movie to see. It's an 336 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: Airbnb nightmare, truly horrified. 337 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, I wish I didn't even know that 338 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: this movie existed. 339 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: Are you an Airbnb renter user? 340 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: I have rented Airbnbs before, but I do prefer a 341 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: hotel because you know what you're gonna get, and you know, 342 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: even if they're bad, you can still complain to the 343 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: front desk. 344 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: Right, and the sheets are gonna get changed. Yeah, and 345 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: you have that luxury of throwing the towel on the floor. 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can leave the room like a mess. 347 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: I try not to leave it like crazy. I'm messy, 348 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 3: but you you don't have to put it back where 349 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: you found it. It's right. 350 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Something I've always found weird ever, like that's I 351 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: feel like an easy way to tell something about how 352 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 2: someone behaves in a hotel is when you go in 353 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: and if you sit down on the comforter and they 354 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: freak out, They're like, you don't know how filthy those are? 355 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, so you've made one filthy before. That's that's 356 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 2: the only thing going through my mind's like, so you've 357 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: done something truly disgusting. 358 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like I've never thought about that. 359 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: Like they're filthy as possible, Like it's probably clean enough. Yeah, 360 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: but yeah, I tried to leave a hotel room clean enough. 361 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: Well. I was on Twitter, which you know is a 362 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: mistake always why Yeah, but I was on Twitter and 363 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: there was like a why there was a thing where 364 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: people were saying that there were creepy airbnb hosts that 365 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 3: had like cameras like in the airbnb's and I was like, 366 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: that's horrifying. Of course. 367 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: I remember I when I was in I think ninth 368 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: or tenth grade, I went with my brother and my 369 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: dad to Alaska and we stayed in a obviously not 370 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 2: an airbnb, it wasn't around yet, but like in this 371 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: lady's B and B. It's hard to say B and 372 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: B at this point without putting air in front of it. 373 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: But we stayed at her lodge or whatever, and my 374 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: brother had to borrow her laptop at one point because 375 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: he was selling something on eBay. And this was long 376 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: before everyone had a laptop. Blah, blah blah. He started 377 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: looking at her search history. Oh no, and one of 378 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: the things she had searched was in shower. Shower had cameras. 379 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: And we also found out her screen name was Lusty 380 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: Lady Linda. Oh no, so there's there's a chance that 381 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: there's just footage out there of me as a tenth 382 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: grade or naked in a shower. 383 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's not Hopefully she can't get her a personal life. 384 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a scary experience, and I'm sure 385 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: that's happened before. 386 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: That's so creepy. 387 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 2: People are so scary. There are so many creeps. You've 388 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: got to be real careful, especially after you watch Barbarian. 389 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 2: You'll never Oh no, we've got to get back to 390 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: haunted hotels. I like a haunted hotel. There's something a 391 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: little more dignified about a scary hotel. 392 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's historic, you know, Oh there was a ghost 393 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: living here. It's fun. 394 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also throwing towels on the floor. It's like 395 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 2: relaxed at the very least. Oh, well, there's something else. 396 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I really could talk about haunted things all day, 397 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: but I want to talk about something else. What you 398 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: agreed to be on I said, no gifts in the 399 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: recent past, and I was really excited. I thought, we'll 400 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: have a nice time. I read so funny. She'll come, 401 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: she'll go, everything'll be fine. And so I woke up 402 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: this morning and went about my normal business, which was 403 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: mostly just sitting at the kitchen counter for three hours 404 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: before I realized I need to get ready. I got 405 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: ready on a lease, came over, set up for the podcast, 406 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 2: and one o'clock rolls around. 407 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: Here. 408 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 2: You come up the driveway holding a bag. I'm just 409 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: going to ask you right now. Is that a gift 410 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: for me? 411 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: I may have brought a gift for you. Okay, I 412 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 3: may have brought a gag gift for you? 413 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: Even interesting? Okay, Well it's in a little obviously reused bag. 414 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 3: Yes, that is called being eco friendly. 415 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: It's from a cannabis company. It's a nice little black bag, 416 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: almost a gift bag. Shall I open it here on 417 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: the podcast? 418 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a great idea. 419 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it here. And that's very small, 420 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: that's reaching in reaching in this is actually there's nothing 421 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: of a gag about this. I've just pulled out a 422 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 2: four pack of flossters. Yes, why did you first. So 423 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm just going to plant my flag. I love these. 424 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put them in my bag. This is so 425 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: such a. 426 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: Do you like flossters? 427 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: I love flows? 428 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: Okay, this is now we can be friends. I hate 429 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: when people don't flaws. 430 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: Everyone's telling you to floss offessionals are telling you to 431 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: flos Yeah, but. 432 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 3: Some people just don't flass And I'm like, you need 433 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: to fly. 434 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 2: How often are you flossing? 435 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 3: I flaws at least once a day, sometimes more? 436 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 2: Wow, sometimes more? And when you say more, is that 437 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: twice a day? Or is this becoming? Are you like 438 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: not like ten times? 439 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: No? No, no, no, Usually I floss? Why I always floss 440 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: before bed? Okay, right, you know you gotta get all 441 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: the end of the day. I ended the food got 442 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: end of the day. Gotta get all the food. No, no, no, 443 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: that's how you get cavities and other stuff. But sometimes 444 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: all floss, like after a meal. 445 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: After a meal, if you have had like an extra 446 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: like a meal with a lot of seeds, what other 447 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: things really get stuck if you eat like corn, my teeth, 448 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: oranges oranges? 449 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: Right? 450 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: Things nice and polpea? Yeah, those feel like floss activities. 451 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I floss every other day. I'm 452 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: trying to get into more of a habit of flossing 453 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: every day. And now I have these. But I recently 454 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: was I did a podcast on another podcast network and 455 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: I went into their bathroom and they had an amazing bathroom. 456 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: They had flosss available, they had it all. I grabbed 457 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: a whole handful and just threw them in my bag. 458 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: Fully stole them from this podcast network. And so but 459 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: now I've got this extra four and I will say 460 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: we won't name the network. I don't want to shame anyone. 461 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 2: But they were kind of in crappy packaging, so they're 462 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 2: probably already loose at the bottom of my bag. These 463 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: are in kind of a right where did you get these? 464 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: I honestly do not remember well because I use floss, 465 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: I don't really use flosters as much. 466 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: So I just so these were just about the house. 467 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 3: They were, They were around okay to be given to you. 468 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: They were just waiting there in your drawer of gifts. 469 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 470 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like floss. I mean I usually do also 471 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: use just a regular floss. 472 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but these are good like on the go because 473 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: I don't really like to carry floss with. 474 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: Me, right, and also like wrapping the floss around your 475 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: fingers and they're dirty and. 476 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 3: Then you got to wash your hands. 477 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: This is more like I can be in the dark 478 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: of the car, pull these out and I'm flossing immediately 479 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: and they reach to the back nicely. I mean, the 480 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: last two years of dental everything for me has been 481 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: pure hell. And I don't know hell happening. I know 482 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: my life is falling apart, absolutely falling apart. No, I've 483 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I've talked about this almost non stop on 484 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: this podcast, how I had a horrible dentist who has 485 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: created so many issues for me, And now I'm. 486 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: Do you have like a whack dentist as far. 487 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 2: As I'm concerned. I mean, the guy has, as far 488 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: as I can tell, created permanent damage in my teeth. No, 489 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: so now I'm waiting on doctor Rachel to fix it all. 490 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: But the appointments are bonkers. Yeah, dental appointments are It's 491 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: like they tell you there's something wrong, actively wrong in 492 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: your mouth, and they're like, can we see you in 493 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: five months? 494 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 495 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: What are we talking about? I don't understand. It doesn't 496 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: make any sense to me, But yeah, I'm now I'm 497 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 2: flossing even more seriously. I've got the electric toothbrush. Do 498 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 2: you do you use an electric toothbrush? 499 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: They don't. I tried for a bit, but I actually 500 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: have kind of like sensitive gums, and I think the 501 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: electric toothbrush kind of irritates it a little bit more 502 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: so I actually I just use a regular and an 503 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: extra soft yeah, extra soft bristles. 504 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: Right. Why do they sell a hard toothbrush? 505 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know who is using that. 506 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: It's every dentist will say, do not buy. 507 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're always like soft or like in my case, like. 508 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: Extra soft, right, like prescription soft. Basically the herd is 509 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: that for like to clean floors? 510 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't who's using the heart? 511 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 2: Even the medium? 512 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never used a medium. 513 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: They've got to just remove those from the market because occasionally, 514 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: when when I was acoustic toothbrush, I would mistakenly buy 515 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: like a hard one. I would blindly just grab something 516 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: off of the shelf, you know, just randomly grabbing and 517 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: go home. And now I've got a hard toothbrush and 518 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: you're not returning it. No, So now you're trapped with 519 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 2: this horrible toothbrush. 520 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: And it like makes you bleed. 521 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: Of course. I don't know that it cleans teeth. I 522 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: think that it just grinds your gums to pieces. 523 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they sell them so then you screw up 524 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 3: your mouth and then that's how the dentists make money. 525 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: Look after my experience with the last dentist, I would 526 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: not put it past the Dental Society or is it 527 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: the Dental Association. I think it's association those people. There's 528 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: something going on. 529 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 3: I had a whack dentist for like a hot second, 530 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: and what happened. So I've never had a cavity in 531 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 3: my entire life. 532 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: Oh my, that's incredible, even as a kid. 533 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never had a single cavity. What Yeah, And do. 534 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: You like, do your parents have good dental hygiene as well? 535 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: Uh? 536 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think my mom had like a root canal 537 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: at some point or whatever. But I literally never had 538 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: like anything wrong with my teeth. Yeah. I was just 539 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: always really good about like brushing my teeth. And I 540 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: didn't eat a lot of like candy or soda when 541 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: I was a kid too, something that helped. But never 542 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: had anything wrong with my teeth. And I had bright 543 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: you know, I had braceste and then right after I 544 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: got off my parents' health insurance, I couldn't go the 545 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 3: dentist that I liked anymore, and I moved to California, 546 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,239 Speaker 3: so I had to find a new dentist. So then 547 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: I just had some I don't know, random dentists that 548 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: worked with my insurance. And then she told me, six 549 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 3: months after I got into my previous sentence and he 550 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: said there was nothing wrong, she told me I had 551 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: five cavities and gum disease. And I was like, there's 552 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: no way. 553 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Make the lie believable. 554 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: I was like, in six months, you're telling me I 555 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 3: got five I mean, yeah, I drank a couple sodas. Like, 556 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 3: there's no way. 557 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: I think, even if you were not taking care of 558 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: yourself at all, getting five cavities and gum disease in 559 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: that period's impossible. 560 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: It's crazy. It doesn't make any sense. 561 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: And what was she like, we got to get these 562 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: things filled? 563 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 3: She was like, yeah, we could do it like now basically, 564 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: and I was like, absolutely not. And she was like 565 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna cost three thousand dollars. 566 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: I was like no, but please, I'm about to go 567 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: out of business. 568 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: I was like, ah, I'll think about it. Never went back. 569 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: I went back to my old dentist. I begged him 570 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: just like just look, you know, just and then he 571 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 3: looked at He's like, you're fine. 572 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: Wow, have you like looked into her since. 573 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 3: I don't remember her name unfortunately, but I did look 574 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 3: into like that place and it does have bad reviews. Wow, 575 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 3: I fully scamming people? 576 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: That is what. How does something like that not caught 577 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 2: by the government. 578 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: Well, I think it was like I had like covered 579 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: California or whatever. But and I think they're just trying 580 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: to scam like low income. 581 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: Wow, that is horrible. 582 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 3: They just tell you there's things wrong with your teth 583 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: you got to fix it now, and you're like, okay, 584 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: I don't know any better, right, grief? 585 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: What part of LA is it in? 586 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: That was when I was in the Bay Oh okay, yeah. 587 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're in the Bay area, be very 588 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: careful about which dentists you're going to. 589 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, look online, I guess check the reviews, right, DM 590 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: me separately and be like is this am I? Okay, 591 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: I'm just. 592 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Gonna be just inundated with dental requests. Yeah, that's really scary. 593 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: The other thing though, about like checking reviews of any 594 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: medical professional is also like most people. Most people who 595 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: have a good experience at one of these things usually 596 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: doesn't leave a review. It's usually the person who may 597 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: have been one in a thousand that had a bad experience. 598 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: So it's really impossible to tell who these are. 599 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: But when there's a lot of bad reviews that are 600 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 3: really bad, it's probably bad. 601 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: Wow, that's terrible. Five cavities and. 602 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: And gum disease. 603 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: Gum disease. 604 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: I was so scared because I've never, you know, had 605 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: a single cavity, right, I had a like an existential crisis. 606 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Of course, who have I become? 607 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: I know. 608 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm the person with no cavities and 609 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 3: now I have five and gum disease. Like, I don't 610 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 3: know who I am. 611 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: Any identity has been shattered, truly. I really feel like, 612 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 2: and I don't want to rain on your parade. There's 613 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: gonna be a cavity in your future, and you've got 614 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: to brace yourself for that. Yeah, you've got to start 615 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: making a plan for how you're going to handle it emotionally. 616 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: I know it is painful to get it filled, not 617 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: the most painful thing in the world, but it's just 618 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: kind of a long, tortuous experience. Yeah, and then you 619 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: may end up with a dentist like me who somehow 620 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: makes it worse and then you live with it for years. 621 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: What if I just don't fill it? 622 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. What does happen when the cavity 623 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: is just left to be a hole in your tooth? 624 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: Does it rot out? 625 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: Probably? But I don't think I've ever had anything in 626 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 3: my tooth that was even close to being like rotting out, 627 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 3: so I've never thought about. 628 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: It, right, I feel like that probably takes a lot 629 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: for your mouth to be like considered rotting. 630 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'd have to be in pain to be like, Okay, 631 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: I'll do some research on filling this cavity. Hmm. 632 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: And like I currently have a cavity, and this it's so. 633 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: It's also I feel a little ashamed of it because 634 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: for the longest time I didn't have cavities. I had 635 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: a few as a kid, and then never cavities. And 636 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: then I think the pandemic shifted something in the way 637 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: my brushing habits are something, and now I've got a cavity, 638 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: and doctor Rachel it gave me months before my big appointment, 639 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: So I guess it's fine to just live with it. 640 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: I mean, does it hurt. 641 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,719 Speaker 2: Not the cavity she identified, but the cavity that scumbag 642 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: drilled into last year is now hurting. I can't eat 643 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: a nut, I can't eat anything hard on that side 644 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: of my mouth. 645 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: That's horrible. 646 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: And now I'm like, do I call the dentists and 647 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: tell them? And then they said, up another appointment. It's 648 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: it really stresses me out. But I have these piloscers. 649 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that won't fix your cavity, but. 650 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: It'll hopefully prevent future cavities and gum disease and gum disease. 651 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: What you're feeling on telling somebody that they have something 652 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: in their teeth? 653 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I do it? 654 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: You do it? And how do you approach it? 655 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: I go, you have something in your teeth, or I'll 656 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: just point to it. I'm not subtle at all. I'm 657 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 3: just like, fix this. 658 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: I think that's good. I think every if everyone did that, 659 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: it would be fine, fine, and there would be like 660 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: because you always the person's face always kind of drops 661 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: and you can I feel like the blood runs from 662 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: their face and they're kind of a shame. That happens 663 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: to everyone. 664 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: Isn't it worse if you were just staring at it 665 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 3: the whole time and said nothing. 666 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: Of course, if I had dinner with a friend, wonderful time, 667 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: we're laughing, we're chatting, I go out in the car 668 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: and then look in the rear view mirror and there's 669 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: something in my teeth. That person has just betrayed me, 670 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: they like revel in me embarrassing myself. 671 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole time. 672 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: I would never trust that person again. 673 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 3: Of course. 674 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: So I guess it's just like a policy of honesty. 675 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 2: But it every time it happens, every time a friend 676 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: has something in their teeth, I'm so scared to let 677 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 2: them know. 678 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,719 Speaker 3: Well, how do you say it? 679 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: Very meekly? You have something in your teeth? But I'm embarrassed. 680 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: I feel bad. I feel like, but I'm doing them 681 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: a favor. I'm not trying to hurt anyone. 682 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: Of course, unless you were like, ah ha, you got 683 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: food in your teeth, you know, like a bully. 684 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: This is also, now that we're chatting about this, I'm like, 685 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: what if I currently have something in my teeth and Ireen's. 686 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: Just that would be really funny. If I, oh, I 687 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: would totally tell you to get something in your teeth, 688 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 3: and then you finish the podcast, you look in the 689 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 3: mirror and you're like, oh my god, that's been there 690 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 3: the whole time. 691 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: I would burn you to the ground. I would absolutely torture. 692 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 3: I'd be like, yeah, that's why I got you these flossers. 693 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: It was passive aggressive. It was like, oh, it's supposed 694 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: to be a different gift. I saw what was happening 695 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 3: in your teeth. I was like, actually, we. 696 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: Ran back to the car. I've got something else. You 697 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: don't need this expensive watch. So before I opened this, 698 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: you did say it was kind of a gag gift. 699 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: What did you expect my reaction to be. 700 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: To laugh? I laughed? 701 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: I did laugh. Yeah, But did you think I'd be like, 702 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: I'm not flossing my teeth. 703 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: I didn't know what you would say, because I don't 704 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: know what your dental hygiene standards are, right, But it's 705 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: definitely not a gift that I would give normally. 706 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Right, right, that would be an interesting gift, like a 707 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: wedding gift that unwrap in front of the parents and 708 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: it's just a bunch of flossers. 709 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: I bought you a thousand flossers. 710 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: Maybe that's a good gift. It's really unconvention. 711 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I would love if someone bought me years 712 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: worth of floss. I'd be like, hell, yeah, I don't. 713 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 2: Like to buy a sweepstakes in never ending Floss, I'd 714 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: go for it. Have you ever won a sweepstakes? 715 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: No? But I did win a radio contest one time 716 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 3: to meet Taylor Swift in high school. 717 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just going to be silent for a me. 718 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: I want to hear about everything about this. 719 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'm a huge Swifty, huge Swift fan. And in 720 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 3: high school they were doing this like radio promotion thing 721 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 3: where you had to show up at this mall and 722 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: you write your name on like a little piece of 723 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 3: paper with their name, phone number, email, whatever. I brought 724 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: my whole family with me. We all put our names 725 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 3: in the like the bucket, and they drew names and 726 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: actually my grandma's name got drawn. But she doesn't care 727 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 3: about Taylor. 728 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 2: She was part of the scam run. 729 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so she was like, you go, here are the tickets. 730 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: You go? 731 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 2: So you got to go to the concert and meet her. Yes, 732 00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: what was that experience? 733 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: Well, it was also crazy because I guess my grandma 734 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: didn't write her phone number clearly enough huh. So they 735 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: gave us the tickets in advance, and then they're supposed 736 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 3: to like contact you the day before for the meet 737 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 3: and greet, like there was a whole VIP experience. Wow, 738 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 3: And they didn't have our phone number, so like the 739 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: day before, I'm like, they never contacted me, so for 740 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 3: I had to like call like the people, like I 741 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: was doing like hours of research. I'm like, where's my 742 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: meet and greet experience? And it ended up I don't 743 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 3: even remember exactly what happened, but I went to the concert, 744 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 3: I like ran into other people like whatever. A long 745 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 3: story short, I did end up meeting her, but I 746 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 3: didn't get the whole VIP experience, but it still got 747 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: to meet her because I was like, here's the thing 748 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: where it says I want but they never contacted me. 749 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: Yeah that's so pretty good. 750 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah they felt bad, and I guess they emailed me 751 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 3: some free stuff after, but I'm like, that's not the same. 752 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 3: It's me walking around with Taylor Swift. 753 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 2: Friends by now. I know, think of the path your 754 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 2: life could have taken. Yeah, Oh, what a shame your gramma. 755 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 2: I hope she learned her lesson. 756 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I should have double checked at work. 757 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: Everyone showed me your entries. 758 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: Make sure the seven looks like a seven. 759 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible. I've never really wont a sweepstakes like that. 760 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 2: I need to enter more. 761 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. 762 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: I feel like at some point there was like an 763 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: Oprah episode about like these people enter sweep steaks all 764 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: the time and it's like what they did as a 765 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 2: job or something. Really and I might have been inventing that, 766 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,280 Speaker 2: but that would be a good episode of Oprah. 767 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 3: Let's like, I've ruined my life but I won one 768 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: sweep steak. 769 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 2: I've never heard sweepstakes singular like that, and I love that. 770 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I guess I don't know what this singular. I 771 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: just made it. 772 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: I think I think there should be a singular sweep steak. Yeah, 773 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: it's like a much smaller It's like when you enter what. 774 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 3: I want, it's a sweep steak, but yours. 775 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: I think qualifies as a sweep steaks. 776 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 3: Well, what I ended up getting was a sweep Yeah. 777 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, the ultimate prize, I mean at the end 778 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 2: for you was kind of half of the experience. So 779 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: did you when you met Taylor? Was it just like 780 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: high so nice to meet you. 781 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was like a line of people that were 782 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: meeting her. I remember she was very tall and she 783 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: was wearing like high heels too, so she was she's 784 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 3: super tall, and I was very emotional and I was like, Hi, 785 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: it's great to meet you. And I'm a huge fan 786 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: of Ellen too, and I knew she was like on 787 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 3: the Ellen Show and she liked Ellen. So I brought 788 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: her a gift. 789 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: Oh my god, flossters. Yeah from the audience, Taylor, you're 790 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: embarrassing her. 791 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're saying white oars, I could see that 792 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 3: he's a Brocoli. So I brought you some fluss. 793 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: Now, what did you bring her? 794 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 3: No, I brought her a DVD of like Ellen's like 795 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: I think it was DV Delicious, Okay, it was just 796 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: like Ellen's greatest hits on the first few seasons of 797 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 3: her talk show or something. So I gave it to him. 798 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 3: She's like, oh, you know, she's very nice it. I'm 799 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 3: sure she threw it away. 800 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 2: Oh, I imagine she holds. It's probably in her purse 801 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: right now. 802 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I hope she didn't throw it away, because 803 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: in hindsight, I wish I had kept the DVD because 804 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 3: now I don't own it. 805 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: Physical media is so important. 806 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 3: I have a DVD player. 807 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 2: I am a huge champion. I mean despite not really 808 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 2: using it anymore a physical media. 809 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: My friend was saying recently he thinks that DVDs are 810 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 3: going to make a comeback like Vinyl. 811 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 2: Oh one hundred percent. Yeah, because you know these streaming services. 812 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 2: He's taking stuff down, wiping it off, right, And to 813 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: have the power to have it sitting near a closet, 814 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: people are going to learn their lessons. 815 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 3: Say, Taylor, mail me that DVD if you're not actively watching. 816 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: It, that's incredible. Well what a what a sweep steak story? 817 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 2: Uh well, I feel like it's time to play a game. 818 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: Please. 819 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. Okay, 820 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 821 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 3: Seven. 822 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some light calculating. So while 823 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing this, you have the microphone. You can reckon 824 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 2: men something, you can promote something, you can share a recipe, 825 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: you can keep talking to Taylor Swift whatever you want. 826 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: I'll be right back. 827 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 3: Oh okay, Well, I am a stand up comic and 828 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 3: I'm going on tour so you can come see me live. 829 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure when this episode's coming out, but 830 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to Saint Paul, Minnesota, San Francisco, Denver, San Diego. 831 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,919 Speaker 3: Just go on my website irenetoo dot com for tour 832 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: dates and tickets, and I guess follow me on social 833 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: media at irene Underscore two. That's t you and Taylor Swift. 834 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 3: My dms are always open. Feel free to hit me 835 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: up let me know when you're renouncing the new tour. 836 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. 837 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: I think that this qualifies as like a second chance 838 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 2: for you to meet her. I feel like this is 839 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: a big We're writing a big entry form, dropping it 840 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 2: in that box at the mall, and hopefully Taylor finds 841 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: out and you get to meet her. 842 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I would love if anybody knows her, some drop 843 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: her this little podcast clip in the box. 844 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 2: She's got to hear you got ripped off. 845 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: I did get ripped off. I mean Grandma technically got 846 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: ripped off. Isn't that sad? 847 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: That is really a sad story. And Taylor didn't mean it. 848 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's not her fault. 849 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of no one's fault. So I 850 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: mean it's a blameless situation that needs to be rectified. Yeah, 851 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: and you know, they're the Swifties. It's a whole army 852 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: of people working together. Maybe they could reach her and 853 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: let her know that you kind of only got half 854 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 2: the sweep Steak experience. 855 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get the whole thing. I would love to, 856 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, see the costumes or whatever happens backstage when 857 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 3: you get the VIP experience. I don't know. I'll bring 858 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,280 Speaker 3: my grandma this time. 859 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 2: Oh if you I think if you promise to bring 860 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 2: your grandma, that's really good. 861 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: I promise to bring my grandma. 862 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 2: Okay, that'll improve your chances. 863 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: She won't know what's going on at all, but she'll 864 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: be there. 865 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: She'll have the time of her life. Yeah, Taylor wins 866 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: a new fan. This is a no lose situation for 867 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 2: any but what we're about to do could be a 868 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 2: lose situation. This is called the gift to a curse. 869 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna name three things. Okay, you're gonna tell me 870 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 2: if they're a gift or a curse, and why, And 871 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you if you're right or wrong. There 872 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: are correct answers here, so just be very careful. 873 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 3: Al wait, so I do tell you why? 874 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, So number one This is a suggestion from 875 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: someone named Eden. A listener named Eden has written in 876 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: gift or a curse erasable pens gift and why. 877 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 3: Who hasn't wanted to erase something that they've written in pen? 878 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 879 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: Have you ever used one? 880 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, they're not great. They're not as nice as 881 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: writing with the real pen. 882 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: Sure, but I like them. Okay, gift, wrong curse. First 883 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 2: of all, they do not work as advertises. 884 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 3: They do not work, certainly, don't worry. They don't erase 885 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 3: that well, they don't write that. 886 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: Well, there's nothing good about I think it's cool. I 887 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: love the hope of the erasable pen, the dream of 888 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: the irasible pen, if that were. And look, I haven't 889 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: used one, probably since nineteen ninety five, but I remember 890 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 2: the last time I used one. It was like, I mean, 891 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 2: it's a bad situation for everybody. It's a ripoff. Yeah, 892 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: it's you write something down, try to erase it now 893 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: you just have a blur. 894 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 3: That's true. 895 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 2: And the writing the first place is a kind of 896 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 2: crappy looking there. What is that ink? Yeah, I don't know, 897 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 2: it's a different type of ink. What is ink? I mean, 898 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 2: that's a big, bigger question question I what are the 899 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: what are the ingredients of ink? 900 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: And then what are the ingredients of irasable? 901 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: I know what is happening? I actually there must be 902 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 2: like a how did what does that show? How does 903 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: this get made? Or whatever? Yeah, they must have one 904 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: on pen ink. 905 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: I mean if they don't, they should do one. 906 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 2: Right, I want to. I'm going to look into Okay, but. 907 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 3: You know, side note. What I love though, are those invisibles. 908 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: I don't know this. 909 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: You know, like when you were a kid, you had 910 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 3: those invisible markers where you'd like write stuff and then 911 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 3: it would like glow in the dark or something like that. 912 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: Familiar. 913 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,919 Speaker 3: Those were cool. It's like kind of like the ones 914 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 3: with the UV light. Like I would draw on my 915 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 3: legs and they and my legs look look crazy? 916 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 2: That looks incredible? What is that? That's another Yeah, that 917 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: can't be healthy, right. That substance is absolute poison that's 918 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: seeping into your skin. But yeah, ink erasable ink, irasable 919 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: pens are a curse. Zero out of one so far. Okay, 920 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 2: that's fine. Okay. Number two this is from someone a 921 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: listener named Nicole. Nicole wrote wrote in and suggested gift 922 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: a curse running into someone you went to high school 923 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 2: with at your hometown Taco Bell gift a curse? 924 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 3: Oh, curse. Why I don't want to run into anyone 925 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 3: I went to high school with? Ever? 926 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: Is there any situation that you would like to run 927 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 2: into somebody that you like. 928 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: If I had, Like if it was like, oh, this 929 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: was my high school bully and I ran into them 930 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: and they had to like fix my car, Like maybe that, 931 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: But no, I don't want to run into anyone who 932 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: went to high. 933 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 2: School here in a more powerful situation. 934 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,800 Speaker 3: Y's exactly where I'm like, ah, now the tables have turned. 935 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,280 Speaker 2: You're here to clean the scum out of the toilet 936 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:21,760 Speaker 2: or whatever. 937 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 938 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 2: Uh yeah. My friend Jake has always said, I'm not 939 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: The only occasion I would go to my high school 940 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 2: reunion is if I'm the most famous person on. 941 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 3: The planet, and why would you go? 942 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 2: But I think that's what he's saying. He just simply 943 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,120 Speaker 2: will never go. Yeah, unless he's the most powerful human 944 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 2: being alive. 945 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would never go to my high school reunion. 946 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 3: And even if I was the most powerful person alive, 947 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 3: I'd be like, why might am I high school? Don't 948 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,760 Speaker 3: have a union. Absolutely, I could be doing literally anything else. 949 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: I just found out my high school auditorium was the 950 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 2: venue for one of the largest funerals in Utah. 951 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,240 Speaker 3: Oh, which is such a fascinating fact. 952 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: It was for a kind of an assassinated polygamous leader. 953 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 2: Can you imagine a weirder fact. I've been on that stage. 954 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: I've been in that auditorium to learn about like like 955 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 2: an anti drug campaign, and there was like a dead 956 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 2: polygamous stuff. There no interesting facts about high school, Okay, 957 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: but you said curse wrong gift. Wow, what an interesting 958 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 2: thing to run into some I mean I really feel 959 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 2: like that levels the playing field. You're walking into Taco 960 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 2: Bell thinking that this is gonna be a private moment 961 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 2: between you and Taco Bell, and then there's somebody, maybe 962 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: an old friend, maybe an enemy, it doesn't matter. You're 963 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 2: now both at Taco Bell, and it like there's you're 964 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: there's nothing either of you can say that removes that element. 965 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 2: How funny to run into you at Taco Belle. You're 966 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 2: both I mean, you might be your very lowest, you 967 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 2: might be celebrating you can do you can do anything 968 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: at a Taco Bell, hit rock bottom, have the time 969 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 2: of your life, and so you run into this person 970 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 2: and something you have something to talk about. You're both 971 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure mildly embarrassed about this choice. 972 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: And what's embarrassing about taco Bell? 973 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 2: There's nothing embarrassing. I think it's just I think there's 974 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: like an entering a taco Bell. It's like you're making 975 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 2: a particular type of choice. You're like, today, I'm going 976 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: to go to Taco Bell, and there's nothing wrong with that. 977 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 2: But you are going to taco Bell. We all know 978 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: what that means. You're going to eat a taco Bell. 979 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,320 Speaker 2: And so I don't know that it's it's me going 980 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,720 Speaker 2: to Arby's. Proudly go to Arby's. 981 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 3: Nobody goes to Arby's. 982 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 2: Irene, look me in the eye. I go to Arby's. 983 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've You're the second person in my life that 984 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 3: has ever said that they go to Arby's. 985 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 2: Who's the other one, Taylor Swift? No, I wish she 986 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 2: whispered in your ear. 987 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 3: No, it was another comic I think that told me 988 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 3: that they liked Arby's. And I was like, that was 989 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,320 Speaker 3: the first person, And I was like, you go to Arby's. 990 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 3: I've literally never heard of anybody going to Arby's voluntarily. 991 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 2: So now, but now you understand what I'm saying about 992 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: Taco Bell. 993 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 3: But everyone loves Taco Bell. 994 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 2: Well, I can say the same of Arby's. 995 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 3: It's not true. 996 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to say it right now. Everyone loves Arby's. 997 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,760 Speaker 3: No one eats at Arby's. No one has an opinion 998 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 3: on Arby's because they've never gone. 999 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: I wonder if this you're from Chicago, right, Yeah, maybe 1000 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: Arby's is not a shoe. 1001 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 3: I feel like I don't think we had a lot 1002 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 3: of Arby's. 1003 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 2: Chicago feels like a proud beef town to me, and 1004 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 2: it feels like they probably have better beef sandwich options 1005 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:28,800 Speaker 2: or something. 1006 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: I mean, Portillo's has great Italian beef. 1007 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 2: Okay, so that just makes sense to me. 1008 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 3: But nobody's going to Arby's here, either. 1009 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: Bridge or wineger Is. There's a community here. 1010 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: You're literally You and my other friend and I can't 1011 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,319 Speaker 3: remember who it was, are the only people I've ever 1012 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,720 Speaker 3: heard of my entire life that have gone to Arby's. 1013 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 3: And yet I see a lot of Arby's commercials. 1014 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: There are so many Arby's commercials and ARBs. 1015 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 3: People that go to Arby's and I'm like, no, thank you, 1016 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,319 Speaker 3: and you've never been I've never stepped foot in an army. 1017 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: Well, this explains why you don't go to Arby's. An Arby's, 1018 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 2: a roast beef sandwich is delicious, and if anyone wants 1019 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 2: to well, no, I'm not gonna you know, I'm not 1020 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 2: gonna get in a fight over this. 1021 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 3: I will accept a gift card to Arby's listeners. 1022 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 2: A little experiment. 1023 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 3: If you go there and you think it's good. 1024 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 2: Wow, never been to an Arby's. But yeah, I think 1025 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: if I were to run into somebody at Arby's, an 1026 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: old high school friend or nemesis or whatever, I'd be like, 1027 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 2: how interesting to see you here at Arby's. And then 1028 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: they could say the same to me, and it's like, what, 1029 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: you can't really tell what your life is outside of 1030 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 2: an Arby's or Taco Bell. You could be living it up. 1031 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 2: Things could be absolutely horrible. But in that kind of 1032 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 2: void of these mildly shameful fast food restaurants, there are 1033 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 2: no rules. There are no laws, it's no class system 1034 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 2: within them. Okay, so I think it levels the playing 1035 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 2: field in a nice way, and it's a gift okay. 1036 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 3: So all right, well I'm gonna get this last one. 1037 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 2: You've got zero so far. That's fine. Don't let that 1038 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: shake your confidence. Final one from a listener named Kevin 1039 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 2: Gift or a curse Mirrored ceilings and elevators. 1040 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 3: Mirrored ceilings in elevators. 1041 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you look up and the whole thing is mirrors. 1042 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: I would say, curse. Why They're just very confusing. I'm like, 1043 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 3: am I on the ground or am I on the ceiling? 1044 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 3: I don't like elevators in general, and I'm always afraid 1045 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to get trapped in one? And I have before? 1046 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,920 Speaker 2: How many times? 1047 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 3: Two or three? What? Yeah? 1048 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: How long were you trapped in them? 1049 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 3: Not long, like less than an hour, but still too long? 1050 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 3: Were you alone one time? I can't remember if the 1051 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 3: first time I was a loaner out, but the second 1052 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 3: time I was alone, that is the whole power went off. 1053 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 3: I went out on my block, and it's woe. When 1054 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: I was in the elevator, and what do you do 1055 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: in that moment? Did they still have the little phone 1056 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,399 Speaker 3: in there? I want to use that phone. Oh there's 1057 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: a button. So I pushed the button, okay, and then 1058 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 3: it called the dispatch and did they talk to you? Yeah, 1059 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 3: and they were like what happened. I'm like, I'm trapped 1060 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 3: in the elevator. They're like, oh, the power's out, and 1061 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 3: they're like, well, send someone. So it probably took like 1062 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 3: forty five minutes. 1063 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: Wow, that's terrifying. 1064 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and my phone was like dying too, so 1065 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, it's just me in this elevator. 1066 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 3: I was about to die. I'm gonna die here. 1067 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: He's so scared. I mean, I've heard the elevators are 1068 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 2: more dangerous than people know. 1069 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 3: Really, yeah, okay, don't tell me that. 1070 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling a lot of people that now, and 1071 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 2: now I'm gonna I have a friend who will not 1072 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 2: get on elevators, and that's more of a thing she 1073 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: has to deal with. 1074 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, what if she has to go up like twenty floors. 1075 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: She does it? 1076 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:28,839 Speaker 3: What? 1077 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 2: Yes, some people are deathly afraid of elevators, and it's 1078 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 2: I can't blame them entirely. They don't They've probably heard 1079 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 2: some horrible story about someone getting crushed or trapped and 1080 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: suffocated or you know, so many things gonna happen in 1081 00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 2: an elevator. But uh, yeah, I've heard they're more dangerous 1082 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: than one would expect. I've never been trapped on in 1083 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,279 Speaker 2: one knock on wood. But the mirror issue. You're saying 1084 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: it's a curse, and. 1085 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not into it. 1086 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I am not trying to make you lose 1087 00:49:59,680 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 2: the skin. 1088 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:05,720 Speaker 3: Wow, I lost this one again, you completely Wow. 1089 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: What's wrong with a nice, glamorous ceiling of mirrors. It's 1090 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 2: just it's mildly disorienting. You get to look up. 1091 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 3: Disoriented. I mean, it's disoriented. 1092 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 2: We should have known when we started talking about the 1093 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,680 Speaker 2: tea cups that this was going to be a curse 1094 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 2: for you. But I think it's wonderful. You get to 1095 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 2: look up. It's an interesting experience. I feel like if 1096 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 2: the elevator does get stuck, you can stare up at 1097 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 2: the mirror and contemplate your life. 1098 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: Oh and have a full existential crisis while book staring 1099 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 3: at myself in the trapped elevator. No, thank you. 1100 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 2: I love elevator ceilings in general. I think there were 1101 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 2: just an interesting thing I love, like in a movie 1102 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 2: when somebody, of course moves one of the things down 1103 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 2: sneaks through. I always wanted to try that, but I 1104 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 2: guess if it's mirrored that's probably more difficult. 1105 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you'd be a more exciting. 1106 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 2: I feel like in a movie, you shoot it, the 1107 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 2: mirror rains down, it's so cinematic, and then you're crawling 1108 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 2: up the shaft. I welcome anything new in an elevator. 1109 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 2: I missed the little telephones. Might am I imagining that 1110 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 2: there used to be telephones in them? 1111 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 3: I think there were telephones in them. 1112 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 2: Okay. I feel like at some point there was like 1113 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 2: a little door you opened and there it was just 1114 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 2: like a phone you could. 1115 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 3: Chat Wise, because I was in a building recently and 1116 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 3: they had one of the whole time eat telephones. 1117 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 2: I would love to call somebody from that for just 1118 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 2: like to catch up. That would be so much fun, 1119 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,959 Speaker 2: be like, hey. 1120 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,759 Speaker 3: Where are you calling from? Ooh, I'm in an elevator. 1121 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I I mean I hate to see this. 1122 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 2: The listener hates to see it. But at least you've 1123 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: stood by your choices. You didn't back down, you know what. 1124 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 3: It's okay. 1125 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: That's a little win for you just standing by your opinions, 1126 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,800 Speaker 2: and I appreciate it. Okay, this is the final segment 1127 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: of the podcast. It's called I Said No emails people 1128 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 2: write into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com. 1129 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 2: They have problems. Everyone has a different problem. My listeners 1130 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 2: have more than most. Uh, and so we try to help. 1131 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 2: And so let's answer a question. Will you help me 1132 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: answer a question? Okay, this is there's some sort of cricket. 1133 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody hears that. If you don't, that's 1134 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 2: think it's a bird. Oh is that a bird. That's 1135 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: a beautiful Yeah, that's definitely a bird. That's that bird 1136 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 2: is just non stop, good for it. It's just got 1137 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 2: a lungful of air and it's sue. Oh and now 1138 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 2: it's stopped. It got a little bit. Nope, it's bash wa. 1139 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 3: Oh that was the cricket thing you're talking about? Thought, 1140 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 3: I have a bird from over here. Okay, But a 1141 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,280 Speaker 3: lot of sounds. 1142 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 2: There sounds a lot of sounds in the world. That's 1143 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 2: one thing about Earth. There are a lot of sounds here. Okay, 1144 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: deer bridger and informed guest. That's a nice thing to 1145 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 2: call you, an informed guest. 1146 00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 3: Uh. 1147 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,479 Speaker 2: This fall, I have four weddings to attend. Like many 1148 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 2: people in their early thirties, twenty twenty two has been 1149 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 2: absolutely packed with weddings due to backlogs from the previous 1150 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,839 Speaker 2: few years. Now, I don't have loads of friends. Okay, 1151 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 2: this person's kind of coloring himself as a loser, but 1152 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: that's okay. But four of my best ones all decided 1153 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: that this fall was the time for their weddings. And 1154 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 2: then in parentheses, it says, I am also in two 1155 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: of these wedding parties as a their honor and a groomsman. 1156 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: What's it their honor? 1157 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, never heard. I know what a groomsman is. 1158 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of this. 1159 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 3: Their honor is like, you weren't good enough to be 1160 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 3: a groomsman, but they still want to make you feel special. 1161 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 2: Oh right, right? The wedding tier of importance is will 1162 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: always be baffling to me. It just feels like a 1163 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 2: good area for hurt feelings. 1164 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. 1165 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 2: Just causing drama on a lease. 1166 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 3: I mean, I have a here saying a man of 1167 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: honor is a male who holds the role of mate 1168 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 3: of honor. 1169 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, we've never heard No one's ever heard of this. 1170 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 2: But this person's obviously a wedding pro. Okay, let's get 1171 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,400 Speaker 2: back into it. So he's got four weddings this fall. Okay, 1172 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: the pre wedding events have taken my entire summer. The 1173 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 2: costs are absolutely stacking up. I have worked hard to 1174 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,280 Speaker 2: manage my resentments and show up for all my friends 1175 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 2: as my which as possible, and so and so believe 1176 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 2: we are okay on that front. To make matters worse, 1177 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: I am also moving out of my home right after 1178 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: the weddings are complete. I don't know what that detail means. 1179 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 2: We can safely say I am broke. Oh, maybe that's 1180 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: why he's moving out of the home. Let's say I 1181 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: am broke, and I do not have any more time 1182 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 2: or money for these people. I don't believe I have 1183 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 2: time for crafting gifts or giving them experiences. I'm considering 1184 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 2: giving everybody an IOU card, but I feel like that's rude. 1185 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: What could I do about all these impending gifts? And 1186 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: then in parentheses, no, I don't have a plus one 1187 00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 2: for any of these events, thanks Shane, So Shane, I 1188 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 2: feel like is being abused. Shane has been invited to 1189 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 2: all these weddings, doing all these jobs at the weddings, 1190 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 2: doesn't get a single plus one to any of them? 1191 00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 3: Is it he doesn't have a plus one or he 1192 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 3: doesn't get a plus one. Oh. 1193 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 2: Interesting, So now it was Shane's fault. 1194 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 3: I was reading it as Shane doesn't have a. 1195 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,799 Speaker 2: Plus Oh okay, and this goes to my way of 1196 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,520 Speaker 2: thinking of being like, oh, if he's being abused and 1197 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 2: they're taking him for granted, so we'll just sure, I'm sure, 1198 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 2: and that's Shane's fault. It's entirely Shane's fault. Shane needs 1199 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 2: to take a letter writing course anyway, So Shane's considering 1200 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 2: giving an IOU card. What do you think about that? 1201 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 3: I say, just unfriend all of these people. 1202 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 2: Pre wedding or after now, oh yeah, pre wedding, pre wedding. 1203 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,759 Speaker 2: I just don't show up at the weddings. Yeah, just 1204 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,480 Speaker 2: be like I'm sick, I'm overwhelmed. No, that's not a 1205 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: bad excuse. I think we're I still have COVID, right, 1206 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 2: we've got I think COVID excuses are getting a little 1207 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 2: harder to bring up. Yeah, I used one recently with. 1208 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like he is getting abused by 1209 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 3: his friends. So just like fake. 1210 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 2: COVID, he's been like driven out of his home by 1211 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 2: these weddings. 1212 00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 3: Apparently there are details that we are missing and I 1213 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 3: am curious because I'm like, wait, why are you moving 1214 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 3: out of the home right after the weddings? And then 1215 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 3: you don't want to go? But then is there a 1216 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 3: plus one? I'm very confused. 1217 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shane has given us a little bit of a 1218 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 2: mystery here. I mean, I will say the IO you card. 1219 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 2: Don't do that, No, I don't. 1220 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 3: If you're not going to give anything, just hope they 1221 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 3: don't notice. 1222 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 2: Right, you don't want to like put the spotlight on 1223 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 2: the fact that you're not giving them anything. Yeah, that's 1224 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,280 Speaker 2: a bad idea. And then an io you card. Suddenly 1225 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,680 Speaker 2: their imagination is running wild. They're like, what is Shane 1226 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 2: going to eventually give me? 1227 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and apparently it's going to be something small, right Yeah. 1228 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Just you kind of just want to like be 1229 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,520 Speaker 2: lost in the shadows of the wedding. 1230 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, just you're there. 1231 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 2: Obviously, you're kind of the there, hon or, the groomsman, 1232 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 2: all of this. Hopefully that is enough to distract from 1233 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 2: the fact that you didn't bring a gift. 1234 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, if you're like the groomsmen and all the 1235 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 3: other stuff, like aren't you doing a lot for the wedding? Anyways? 1236 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 3: I feel like you don't really necessarily have to give 1237 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 3: a present. 1238 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:44,840 Speaker 2: You're an unpaid employee. 1239 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think on those two weddings, I don't 1240 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 3: think you would have to really feel obligated and definitely 1241 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 3: don't say io. 1242 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 2: You no, you don't go to work and give your 1243 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,399 Speaker 2: boss a paycheck. Yeah, so I feel like this person, Shane, 1244 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 2: You're absolutely fine not to give anyone a gift the 1245 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 2: other two. 1246 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,239 Speaker 3: If you're gonna go, just blend in and move on 1247 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 3: someone else's gift, you know. 1248 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a that's not a bad idea. Just write 1249 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,279 Speaker 2: a car that's actually now we're getting into something. You 1250 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 2: write a card with a very generic, vague message love Shane, Yeah, 1251 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 2: and then swap it with somebody else's card. Oh yeah, 1252 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 2: that must have been done before for sure. 1253 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 3: Or just like stick it by a present that you 1254 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 3: see if there's physical gifts and be like, I got 1255 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 3: you that. 1256 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 2: The biggest thing you can find in the pile of gifts. Yeah, 1257 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 2: and suddenly it's from you. Why haven't I thought of 1258 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 2: that before? That's a perfect solution. What's your feeling on 1259 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,640 Speaker 2: destination weddings giving a gift in one of those? 1260 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: Oh, I haven't been to a ton of weddings. So 1261 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, I feel like society says you 1262 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 3: always have to give a gift at a wedding, right, 1263 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 3: But if I'm paying a bunch of money to come 1264 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,360 Speaker 3: see you get married, I'm not. I don't want to 1265 00:57:59,400 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 3: give you a p. 1266 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 2: I completely agree. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that anyone 1267 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 2: would expect someone to bring a gift to a destination wedding. Yeah, 1268 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 2: dipping into their vacation fun for your little event. Yeah, 1269 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 2: and then you expect no, it's not you. I'm just 1270 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: going to tell everyone, if you invite me to your 1271 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: destination wedding, I will be empty handed. 1272 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1273 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 2: I may bring a card that I'll be throwing on 1274 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 2: another gift, as we've just discovered through talking to Shane, 1275 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 2: but I will not be spending any more money on you. Well, 1276 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 2: I feel like we answered that question pretty well. 1277 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I still advocate unfriend all your friends. Then 1278 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 3: you won't need to feel guilty at all. 1279 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: And you're giving them something to talk about at their weddings. 1280 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's grit. Wow, what a gift. 1281 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 2: Shane disappeared, Shane unfriended and blocked. What did I do? 1282 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 3: Maybe you can move back into your house? 1283 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 2: Oh, and then kind of get your life back on track, 1284 00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: maybe get married yourself, and then invite them, and then 1285 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,720 Speaker 2: they're going to come screaming back to you, wanting to 1286 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,480 Speaker 2: win your friendship. Shane, the world is. 1287 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 3: You're always taking this podcast absolutely absolutely well. 1288 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad, Shane wrote in, because I feel like we've 1289 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 2: saved his fall. That could have been a disaster and 1290 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 2: could have ended up in a horrible wedding or Winter 1291 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: four weddings, horrible weddings, horrible winters. Nobody wants any of that, Shane, 1292 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,120 Speaker 2: good luck. I'm sorry you wrote kind of a letter 1293 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 2: that confused us a little bit. Well, Irene, I have 1294 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,080 Speaker 2: my flosters, Yes you do. They're a useful gift. I 1295 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 2: probably you know. Usually I try to do a video 1296 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 2: on Instagram, but I'm not going to floss my teeth 1297 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 2: on camera. I feel like that is going to get 1298 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 2: the Instagram account blocked or something. But these will go 1299 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 2: into my bag and are going to save me in 1300 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 2: a pinch. I think about that moment when suddenly I'm 1301 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 2: getting something out of my teeth in the car, I'm like, 1302 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 2: nobody can see me this way. I'm thinking about Irene, 1303 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,600 Speaker 2: and it's what I want you want people to think 1304 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 2: about you in a moment of panic. 1305 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 3: Yes, I do. That's your. 1306 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Well, I've had such a fantastic time with you. 1307 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 3: Thanks for being thanks for having me, had a great time. 1308 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 2: Listener, go get yourself some flossers. Also, if you're driving 1309 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 2: a truck with a bunch of crap in the back, 1310 01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 2: maybe strap that down. I saw one of those earlier 1311 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 2: and they didn't have any of us strap down, and 1312 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 2: I was like, put a strap over that. That feels 1313 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: like something I would do. And because I'm too lazy, 1314 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 2: why am I bringing this up? But it is a 1315 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 2: good thing to keep in mind. You don't want to 1316 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: just drive around with a bunch of crap flying out 1317 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 2: of your truck. I'm glad that I brought that up. 1318 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: That's important. This is the end of the podcast and 1319 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 2: suddenly I'm just dumping advice on you, and I apologize. 1320 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: I have to let you go. I love you, goodbye, 1321 01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,720 Speaker 2: I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's 1322 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully 1323 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 2: mixed by John Brandley and we couldn't do it without 1324 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 2: our guest booker, Patrick Kottmer. The theme song, of course, 1325 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: could only come from a miracle worker. Amy Man. You 1326 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 2: must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. 1327 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you 1328 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 2: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. 1329 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 1330 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: But I invit? Did you hear? Thought a man myself 1331 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you 1332 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guests, 1333 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: you're our presences. Presence enough and I'm already too much stuff, 1334 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: So how do you dare to survey me