1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: That for me. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm for it. 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well I want to 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 6 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? Edith State? 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: Is that? 8 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Woo woof? And Dan and Tye. 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal Boys and girls. My 10 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrandt joining me over there that want 11 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: to only Dan Rubenstein. I almost said beautiful. 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Youth, beautiful Chicago Land. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes I do that in the intro and I've 14 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 2: just got a little too much energy. 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm feeling pretty good, ty, I gotta 16 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: tell you though, after last week, I have grown accustomed 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: to a certain lifestyle. So is it going to be gossling? 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: Is it going to be a Hemsworth? Is it going 19 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: to be Bob Pattinson? Michael Fassbender, which very handsome actor. 20 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Are we having on this week to talk about college football? 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: Because I don't know. I kind of like hobna with 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: the cultural elite. Hobnobbing with the cultural elite. Yes, that's 23 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: what we do here. 24 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: On this ragtag startup college football podcast. My name's Ty, 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: he is Dan. This is a solid verbal. If you 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: haven't subscribed yet, please do so on our website, solidverbal 27 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: dot com. While you're there, you can sign up for 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: the newsletter. We also do have a Patreon, or, as 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: my wife likes to call it, just to ras me, 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: the patreon. 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Patreon. 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Verballers dot com is where you can go to find 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: out more about that. We are offering all sorts of 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 2: cool bonus content. It's been fun. We've got a community, 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: just a raging community of forballers out in our discord thread. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: We've got raging enthusiasm, not attitude. 37 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: No no, no, no, it's not. They're not coming with 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: pitchforks and torches. They're just very excited to be there 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: and we're excited to have them. We've got pint glasses 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: and mugs and all sorts of cool stuff. So Forballers 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: dot com is where you can find that, and of 42 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: course check us out on social media, you know all 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: the usual hotspots Instagram, Twitter, faceboo book, YouTube. 44 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Dot com, slash, the soliverble. Yeah, we'll forget all the housekeeping. Uh, 45 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: just give me some odds here. Jillenhall, maybe Jill and Garfield. 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm obviously looking at a list of sexiest actors alive 47 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: because I could not come up with them on my 48 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: own ty. It's week nine to ten. Ten ten, it's 49 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: week ten. 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: What is a week? And construct? 51 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: It's a construct? Okay, we have I have a nickname 52 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: for you for me, we have the week for the week, 53 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: but for you to evaluate and tell me how on 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: or off point? I am okay. So we are adding 55 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: in action. We are adding in paction. Don't call it paction, uh. 56 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And it's more of the Mountain West and so we 57 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,839 Speaker 1: are we're adding in Really I don't want to say 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: full slate because we don't have FCS games and it 59 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: really is not a regular college football season, but because 60 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: our voyage is not ideal and not everybody has made it, 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, to the destination. Along the way, there have 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: been some bumps and bruises, but we're going cross country. 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: Spirit Airlines Saturday. It's an inefficient college football season at 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: best at absolute bow seats have been over sold, baggage 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: has ended up in Kuala Lumpur. 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: And it costs you twenty five dollars extra. 67 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: Everything's gonna cost everything is extra. In twenty twenty, Spirared 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: Airline Saturday. Speared Airlines not a sponsor at the show, 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: but no and probably will never be. 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: How could I possibly reject that Spirit Airlines Saturday. I 71 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: like it. 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: I like it, and yeah, we're coast to coast. Does 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: Spirit Airlines? I think they make you know, east coast 74 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: to west coast flights, it's not just regional. But even 75 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: if they don't, we're getting there again, very bumpily, very bumpily. Well, 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: we are recording this on Tuesday. It's going to drop 77 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. 78 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: We appreciate everyone listening to the show as we talked 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: through all that week ten has to offer on this 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: Spirit Airline Saturday, which is so stupid. We have to 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: use it. We do have some news, let's get to it. 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: I actually can't do the breaking news thing right now. 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm having that. I'm having that weird like vocal thing 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: that I had to remember. We did the history of 85 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: solid verbal show. 86 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember, do remember this? 87 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: And I got the pain in my throat and I 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: couldn't talk to my wife, who yeah, I would imagine 89 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: to my wife's sheer enjoyment. I've had difficulty speaking over 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: the last few days, so said, yeah, I sound good now, 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: But it was it was speaking of bumpily. We had. 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: We had a rocky go of it. But alas, we 93 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: have news here to discuss Dan, the most important of 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 2: which is this story about Wisconsin Perdue being called off. 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: So cases at Wisconsin. Of course, we knew about Graham 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Mertz and Chase Wolf and found out about Paul Christ, 97 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: but twenty seven active cases since October the twenty fourth, 98 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: that includes fifteen players, twelve staff, of course, including Paul Christ. 99 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: They decided to call this game off as per I 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: think where we're at with the Big Ten and how 101 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: they've chosen to go about their streamline season here. If 102 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: a game's off, it's off there. They don't got any 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: buffer zone built into this thing. If it's off, they're 104 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: just simply not playing it. So Wisconsin, now we saw 105 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: the Nebraska game that got called off, the Perdue game 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: obviously now next to follow suit. We'll see how things 107 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: progress with the Badgers. But you know, a bit of 108 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: a bummer. We've been saying it all along. We obviously 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: hope everyone's okay and not getting sick and able to 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 2: make a full recovery and all that that's sort of 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: assumed at this point. But man, really quite a bummer 112 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: here to see that Wisconsin won't have another opportunity to 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: follow up on that showing that we saw in Week one. 114 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my hope is that it's random. Obviously, the 115 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin and some of the larger municipalities have 116 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: been hit pretty hard by an increase of cases lately. 117 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: But I'll be fascinated after the season when more is 118 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: investigated and what came of protocol, because we know the 119 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: Big Ten was quite skittish and came around with stricter 120 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: protocol for testing, and we now know that sometimes players 121 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: were testing positive and then the follow up test was 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: not the results were not in a timely fashion. It'll 123 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: be fascinating to hear about investigations after the fact, not 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: just at Wisconsin, at places that have been hit harder 125 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: Florida bayl or places like that, major universities that have 126 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: had the resources to test and test quickly. But obviously 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: results and timing thereof can be varied. So that's going 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: to be fascinating to me. And yes, as you said, 129 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 1: it goes without saying that we hope that everybody is 130 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: asymptomatic or the symptoms are as minor as possible and 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: they're able to heal on a human level, much more 132 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: so than a football level. But on that football level. 133 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: This is the second consecutive cancelation. Nebraska was canceled last 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: week and now Wisconsin is at The maximum number of 135 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: games is six, which is the minimum number of games 136 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: to make the Big Ten championship game. Am I right? Yeah? Yeah, 137 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: So so I'm going to pay attention to because now, 138 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: as we all anticipated, perdue in the driver's seat for 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Indian now Purdue of virtual home game for the Boilers, 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: if they're able to find their way to Indy. 141 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god. All right elsewhere, speaking of healing, DeMarcus 142 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: Thomas from Ole, miss a scary moment was hit in practice, 143 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: was not moving, taken to a local hospital. Thankfully, shortly thereafter, 144 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: reports did come out that he was able to move 145 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: his extremities. He was discharged from the hospital. Seems like 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: he's okay, But scary moment. Obviously, we're all college football fans, 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: but we hate to see this sort of thing. It 148 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: sort of is inherent to parts of the game and 149 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: no fun when it goes down, So we wish mister Thomas. Well. Yeah, 150 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: and the only other tidbit I have here is that 151 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: Houston and Cincinnati are going to get some more premier 152 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: treatment now. Because of that Wisconsin Purdue cancelation. They're going 153 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: to move that into the main ABC three thirty window, 154 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: get a little more airplay. 155 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: That's what I and and you know what, good for you, 156 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: I did see that, And good for Cincinnati especially, who 157 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: is certainly playing like a prime time and network television 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: type team with some of their recent results so worthy 159 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: of being watched by as large an audience as possible. 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, Or I would say, yeah, would 161 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: you like to go to games? That'd be I mean, fantastic, yeah, special. 162 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: It is week ten for some, it is week three 163 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: for others, and I don't even know what it is 164 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: for the SEC. But here we are alas for the 165 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: pack week one for the PAC twelve. Welcome to the show. 166 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 2: We've got a loaded slate of games here. And for us, 167 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: it's been a little different this season. From a podcasting standpoint, 168 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: what I would do, I would always put all the 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: games together by conference and then move them around right, 170 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: put them in order the order that seemingly makes the 171 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 2: most sense for the most people who listen to the show, 172 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: And for the first couple weeks it was very easy 173 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: to do in a way that it hadn't ever been 174 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: literally had never been so easy to group and buy conference, 175 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: just talk about all the games. It's all we got. 176 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: But now we've gradually been building up to it, gradually 177 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: been building like a distance runner. Dan finally ten mile mark. 178 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: Now we're at thirteen. Now we're going the full way 179 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: here twenty six point two because the PAC twelve is 180 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 2: joining the fold. And I must admit it took me 181 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: a beat to get back up to speed with how 182 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: exactly to organize things. But one of the bits of 183 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: feedback I've gotten that seemingly works well for our listenership 184 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: is organizing things by time window, right like we're going 185 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: through chronologically throughout the course of a day. We always 186 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: do the window of opportunity, right like, which of those 187 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: windows can you skip all or part of to go 188 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: out and be a normal person? And so why not 189 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: organize a show as such? Been doing it, It's been working. 190 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: The problem I have this week is I don't really 191 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 2: know when the window of opportunity is, at least for me, 192 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: I'm so interested in really all three windows on Saturday 193 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: that it's tough for me to accurately gauge full disclosure. 194 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: I'm probably I mean, can you do have the option 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: of Friday night Sunday morning windows of opportunity where you're 196 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: just like, look, anticipate a stacked Saturday and cook dinner 197 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: Friday night, go run some errands, hit the hardware store, 198 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: hit the grocery store. Yeah. I mean, you're still going 199 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: to have, you know, whatever weekend stuff you if you 200 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: have kids who have activities and stuff like that, and 201 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: there's no real helping that. But if things can be shuffled, 202 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe you've got to scout it out ahead of time 203 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: and think Friday, think Sunday. 204 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 2: The two biggest games of the weekend are at three 205 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: thirty Florida, Georgia and at seven thirty Clemson Notre Dame. 206 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Agreed, true ding yep uh huh. 207 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: So if you don't really have a dog in the fight, 208 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 2: if your team's not playing, or if you've just given 209 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: up on your team, maybe you're a Kansas fan. I 210 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: don't know, those are the two windows where you've got 211 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: the biggest, highest profile games. We'll start here with West Virginia, 212 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 2: Texas in the early block at high noon. I'm really 213 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: interested in this game, Okay, really interested in this game. 214 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 2: This is one of those matchups that for me is 215 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: a pleasant surprise. Right now, it's West Virginia on the 216 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: road plus seven and a half against Texas. I thought 217 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: West Virginia was going to be better this season. I 218 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: don't think I gave him a lot of love when 219 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: we did the preview. But they were really young last year. 220 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 2: They're breaking in a new coach. We're both pretty pumped 221 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: about Neil Brown, you more so than me, And look 222 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: so far, we can definitively say that they've gotten better. 223 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: Oh for sure. 224 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: It just so happens to be at a time when 225 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: the Big twelve is very gettable, very gettable. Yeah, they're 226 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: also getting Texas potentially in a gettable letdown spot after 227 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: that overtime went on the road against Oklahoma State last week. 228 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look back at last year. This is a 229 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: back and forth game until the fourth quarter. West Virginia 230 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: wasn't nearly as good last year. They still hung with Texas. 231 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: Austin Kendall threw four picks, which didn't help. 232 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: Never helps. So now we come into this game. West 233 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: Virginia I think is better on offense. They're pretty good 234 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: on defense, especially like the Stills brothers along the line. 235 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if they got enough firepower to win 236 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: in the end, because I think sam Ellinger finds a 237 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: way to do it to get texts over the hump. 238 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: But I just I can't fight the feeling that this 239 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: is a good spot for West Virginia, that it's a 240 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: game they've had circled on the calendar for a while, 241 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: and you've forgiven me more than a touchdown. I am 242 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: intrigued by that play, Daniel, How do you feel well? 243 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: Texas down keyante ingram, which certainly doesn't help in terms 244 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: of firepower. I look this up because I just I 245 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: kept watching Texas games and was unable to make sense 246 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: of what I was seeing from their passing game and 247 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: from Sam Ellinger. Sam Ellinger in conference play in yards 248 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: per attempt nationally is currently sixty first. 249 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Wow. That low. 250 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: He is sixty first. He is a shade beneath Jarrett 251 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Garantano and Henry Colombi and Adrian Martinez. I guess that 252 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really count because he's only played one game, But 253 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: in terms of Jarrettdagi is ahead of sam Ellinger right now, 254 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: so that's I guess. The more relevant statistic also relevant 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: the number of times West Virginia has won on the 256 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: road this year. That would be zero point zero, and 257 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: that worries me a little bit going into Texas. And 258 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: what it is is is the lack of success on 259 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: the road stronger than either one of these teams feeling 260 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: a bit of a let down after a comfortable win 261 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: against Kansas State and of course a narrow one against 262 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I think the mismatch is something that you 263 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: alluded to, and that's the West Virginia defensive line against 264 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: the Texas offensive line. For that reason, I'm going to 265 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: take the points. I'm going to assume that the Texas 266 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: offense is again going to look off balance for chunks 267 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: of this game. Give me West Virginia to keep it close. 268 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can win on the road 269 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: because recent trends have dictated that that's a pretty big question. 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: But I'm going ears I'm going to take those points 271 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: happily with that letdown factor. 272 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: I think something like thirty one to twenty six is 273 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: my target final score. But i'm Virginia or Texas. Texas wins. 274 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: I think Texas wins, but I do expect West Virginia 275 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: to keep it close, and I like the situation for him. 276 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I do. 277 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm really impressed with how they've built this thing now 278 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: through the early part of the year. Weird year, right, 279 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 2: but they've done a good job so far. We agree 280 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: moving on, we are not going to agree on this game. 281 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: I can sense it already. 282 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: Really, Okay, let's party. 283 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: Michigan minus three and a half on the road at Indiana. 284 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you go first here. I think you 285 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: know exactly where I'm going, because I think I telegraphed 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 2: it on one of our previous episodes. 287 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: But how do you feel Indiana might be the second 288 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: best team in the Big Ten East? 289 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Correct? I still feel that way. By the way, I'm 290 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: not back in day that. 291 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: I believe the secret to beating Michigan is losing to Rutgers, 292 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: and Indiana went out stupidly beat Rutgers. This does feel 293 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: like an under you overvalue moment for me because that 294 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: game against Rutgers for Indiana was unnecessarily close, and I 295 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: stepped forward from Michael Pennix through the air. But I 296 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: do believe that Michigan probably isn't as bad as they were, 297 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: especially on defense against Michigan State. And I think Indiana 298 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: is not just solid, but above solid. But I looked 299 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: last year and last year's embarrassing losses from Michigan. They 300 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: lose to Wisconsin comfortably, and they came back and I 301 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: believe the next week shelled was it Indiana? I'll verify 302 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: this now, but I think the Notre Dame blowout when 303 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Michigan blew out Notre Dame, was coming off of a loss, 304 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: and so I do like that element. Okay, So they 305 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: lose to Penn State on that Ronnie Bell late drop 306 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: in the end zone, and then they beat Notre Dame 307 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: by thirty one. They lost to Wisconsin and then blew 308 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: out the aforementioned Rutgers Scarlett Knights fifty two to nothing. 309 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: So not as relevant, but it is interesting to me 310 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: that Penn State loss in the Notre Dame follow up. 311 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: So I think Michigan is not as dominant as we 312 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: thought they were after the Minnesota game because we've readjusted 313 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: our Minnesota thoughts, but also not as sloppy as they 314 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: looked against Michigan State. So I think Michigan's at least 315 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: a touchdown better here. They comfortably beat Indiana by what 316 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: twenty five last year? 317 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. 318 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: On the road, I think the Wolverines are in a 319 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: good position to win this game by seven to ten points. 320 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you. It's just so difficult to handicap 321 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: any of these big ten games right now because we 322 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 2: have such little data to work with. You're right. We 323 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: talked about Michigan's win over Minnesota. It's not nearly as 324 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: impressive as we thought. Obviously, the loss last week wasn't 325 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: great either, But now we've got this dynamic where Jim 326 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: Harbaugh is staring down the barrel of an oh and 327 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: three start, and it's really hard for me to believe 328 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 2: that Michigan starts oh and three this year. But it 329 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: is a tough spot. It is a tough spot. And look, 330 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick Indiana plus the points, but I have 331 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: some of the same questions about them. You know, I'm 332 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 2: high on them this year. They're off to a good start. 333 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: But if you look at the numbers, that win over 334 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: Penn State was a huge mirage, a huge mirage per 335 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 2: Bill c our Friend, who runs the sp plus for 336 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: ESPN dot com. Now, Indiana's postgame win expectancy after that 337 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 2: Penn State game was five percent. 338 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, but they did. 339 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: I mean, it is scoreboard. At the same time they 340 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: won their call, they got the job done. No, they 341 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: got the job done. And certainly Indiana is not the 342 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: only team in that category. There are plenty of games 343 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 2: that follow a similar path, and you know, maybe they 344 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: didn't play well enough to win from an efficiency standpoint, 345 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: but they find a way to pull it off. But 346 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: I still think a bit of a mirage that point. 347 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: But do you think a little bit of the Michigan 348 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: State game was the Michigan State win was a mirage 349 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: against Michigan. 350 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: Not as much as the Indiana penn State one, because 351 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: Michigan State was in control for most of that game. 352 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: That's true. 353 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: I think this is a close game. I think it's 354 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: driven by defense and turnovers. I think Michael Pennix makes 355 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: the big play because he's good at doing that. I'm 356 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: gonna say Indiana outright. I'm gonna say Indiana twenty eight, 357 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: twenty seven. Okay, Okay, I don't feel that confident about 358 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: this for what it's worth. 359 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: But if you if you believe in Indiana outright, this 360 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: game is where. This game is in ann Arbor, it's 361 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: in Indiana, it's in it's in Bloomington. Okay, Yeah, you 362 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: have to believe, which it sounds like you do that 363 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Indiana is the second best team in the Big Ten 364 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: East that you are if they're put a flag that 365 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: you have planted. Michigan State's got a new coach. Nice 366 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: went over Michigan. Bad loss over Rutgers or two Rutgers Michigan. 367 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: We have to watch this game to find out. 368 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Penn State. I'm out on Penn State. You know that, 369 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: and I'm certainly also. And you also have to believe 370 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 2: that Michigan is a legitimate mess. 371 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: I think we yeah. 372 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: See, this is why I'm not confident because I don't 373 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: believe that quite yet. But I'm gonna stick to my 374 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: guns here. This is my initial gut. 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: All due respect to nine Windiana of course. Yes, so 376 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: we'll see we disagree. I knew we were gonna disger. Yeah, 377 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: it's okay, also tasty. 378 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: Also at high noon, wow, high noon, eastern high nine 379 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: o'clock am in LA for Arizona State usc USC is 380 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: a ten and a half point home favorite. 381 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Here. 382 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: This is a weird bodyclock game, Dan, these guys are 383 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: gonna be waking up real early before the crack of 384 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: dawn to get ready for this football game. So based 385 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 2: on that and that alone, even though I do like USC, 386 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: a lot. I am very inclined to just go points 387 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: because an early morning game like that is not especially 388 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: after a pandemic delay. Hey, your first game of the year. 389 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: We're waiting till November to play. So many things working 390 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: against a favorite covering in the spot that I think 391 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: I just have to go ASU plus the points blindly. 392 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Very strange game last year, by the way, different season, 393 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: but Jaden Daniels didn't play in this game. That was 394 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: a Joey Yellen, your boy Joey Yellen game for ASU. 395 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: The Trojans score I want to say, twenty seven or 396 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: twenty eight points in the first quarter and then hung 397 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: on for their dear lives and I think one thirty 398 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: one to twenty six. They scored three points the rest 399 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: of the way. It's a very strange game ASU with 400 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, don't I actually don't like picking 401 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: games as much as I like figuring out what intrigues 402 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: me about this game. And so it's a less explosive 403 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: ASU team without Brandon Ayuk, and certainly USC down a 404 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: couple of huge playmakers last year, but they're still so 405 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: stacked along the receiving core. New defense for USC going 406 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: against a promising quarterback in Jaden Daniels. It's a lot 407 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: of points though, And I went back and forth on 408 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: this one because Okay, they're sleeping in their own beds 409 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: for this weird start time, but all the same, everybody's 410 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: waking up at the same time. It's not a huge 411 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: huge advantage. I'm going to take the points in a 412 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: very strange situation. I like ASU's defense some USC clearly 413 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: has the talent advantage on both sides, and they I 414 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: think they got their left tackle back he had opted 415 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 1: out and opted back in. So I am confident in 416 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: USC's ability to win this game because I'd rather have 417 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator breaking in a defense and offensive one. 418 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: And so with Todd Orlando joining the USC coaching staff, 419 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a little bit more momentum with USC 420 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: at this point. I think they are seven to ten 421 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: points better, but I'm not fully confident in a comfortable 422 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: win because there's a good amount of promise to ASU 423 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: at the same time. 424 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: All Right, we agree, Dan, We agree again some other 425 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: games here. I've got five quick ones that I just 426 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: want to rattle off before we get to that or 427 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: after deanslate. Excuse me, sure, Nebraska minus four and a 428 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: half all the road at Northwestern. Nebraska, of course, had 429 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 2: the extra week to right the wrongs from week one. 430 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: I stand by what I said after that Ohio State game. 431 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: I think the defense looked better, and I like Nebraska 432 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: here minus the points. 433 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: I like a good defense at home with the Rubinstein 434 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: bump to the north Shore. So I'm going Northwestern here. 435 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: I'm going Northwestern to Peyton rams Even though we believe 436 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: in Nebraska's potential improvement upfront on defense, it has to 437 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: be proven to be a little bit more sustained than 438 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: getting up for just that opening week came against Ohio State. 439 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm gonna take Northwestern here and Peyton Ramsey, 440 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: who held on. They went down pretty big early on 441 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: against Iowa, but they say they stayed steady. Excuse me. 442 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go Cats at home in Evanston here too, 443 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: at least cover if not went out right against I 444 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: think a still flawed Nebraska team. 445 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 2: We disagree, Okay. Also in the Big Ten, Michigan State 446 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: at Iowa, Iowa is a six and a half point 447 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: favorite here, Dan, So yeah, does that feel like too 448 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: big to you? 449 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Uh? Certainly a letdown spot for Michigan State to win 450 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: the Paul Bunion, and that game was in ann Arbor, 451 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: correct for Michigan State. And then to stay on the road. 452 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: Obviously they went home to East Lansing, but another road 453 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: game in a row. I think it's a three point 454 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: game either way. I am worried about what I saw 455 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: from Iowa's offense. I don't know if you read the 456 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: link I sent you from Scott Doctrman Doctrman Doctrman of 457 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: the Athletic in talking about how Iowa recognizes that when 458 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: they have jet sweep action and motion and they're able 459 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: to confuse linebackers and run out of the shotgun, they're 460 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: pretty successful. But they ultimately decided not to do any 461 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: of that against Northwestern with any sort of consistency. When 462 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: they did it, it worked, and they still put their 463 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: heads down and tried to run from under center and 464 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: you know, make Spencer Petross throw the ball fifty times. 465 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: I just don't have a lot of faith in this 466 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: Iowa offense against a defense with a heartbeat. So it 467 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: feels seventeen thirteen. I'm gonna take those points. 468 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 2: I think this is another one of those games like 469 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: case State West Virginia a week ago where Vegas is 470 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: speaking to us in codes. It's speaking, so I think 471 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: it's speaking to us because it doesn't make sense to me. 472 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: It obviously makes sense to them. They're the ones that 473 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: make money off this. I'm just going to go Iowa. 474 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: I've learned not to question these things, So thank you, Vegas. 475 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: I would have loved three and a half or four 476 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: and a half. 477 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: Six and a half feels steep. 478 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: It feels steep, it really does. But that's why I'm 479 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: going that direction elsewhere. 480 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Are you a believer in Michigan State approaching what they 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: look like against Michigan for the duration of the year. No, okay, 482 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: you think it's going to be a major step down. 483 00:25:54,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: We've had secret slack discussions about Rocky Lombardi's pop gun arm. 484 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: That's true. 485 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: We've had those discussions, not publicly, at least not till now. 486 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: But let's pond a Michigan State schedule. Here are the 487 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: teams that you have to feel at least pretty good about. Iowa, Indiana, 488 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: you more so than i Maryland, Northwestern giant question mark, 489 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State obviously excellent, and Penn State not an amazing 490 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Penn State year thus far, I don't know. I just 491 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: I think they can be competitive enough to be a 492 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: thorn more often than not. 493 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: Elsewhere. We've got North Carolina minus nine and a half 494 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: against Duke, We've got Liberty plus fifteen and a half 495 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 2: on the road at Virginia Tech Liberty now ranked, and 496 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: also SMU minus fourteen and a half on the road 497 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: against Temple. Any thoughts on those three. 498 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: I do like North Carolina Douke coming off of a 499 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: very emotional, big season defining victory over the Charlotte forty 500 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: nine ers, I'm actually okay, So in all seriousness, I 501 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: don't believe Duke is that good, but I think their 502 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: defense is okay. And as a nine and a half 503 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: point dog at home, it's interesting to me does North 504 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: Carolina have anybody? I mean, this is obviously a rivalry 505 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: am I don't think they're fully looking forward to but 506 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: they have waken a week off before Notre Dame, so 507 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: it's not a look ahead situation. I think I like 508 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina here. I think they should be able to 509 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: run and get a little bit more little more, a 510 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: little bit more momentum than what they've looked like recently. 511 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: I think Liberty is a pretty decent matchup for Virginia Tech. 512 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: Even though Liberty has had a nice season, I don't 513 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: like their front on defense. Though Malik Willis has been 514 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: fun the Auburn transfer at quarterback for Liberty, I still 515 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: think Virginia Tech should should even though they are sort 516 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: of an up and down by the weak team. They 517 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: should be able to run all over Liberty and Temple 518 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: might be bad. Temple might be full on bad. So 519 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: I like smu here on the road even though it 520 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: seems like a lot of points. Temple has has hit 521 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: some pretty significant lows recently, didn't They Just they got 522 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: worked over by two lane. I don't know if there 523 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: was a specific circumstance by that, but they've lost three 524 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: and they lost the neighbor and lost. 525 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: The Navy in the first game, and Navy's sort of 526 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 2: not very good this year. 527 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I think I edged a pretty bad USF team. Yeah, 528 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I'm with North Carolina. That's my 529 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Tracy Chapman game. Like, I know it's a rivalry, but 530 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: you got to give me a reason. 531 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: Give me a reason to take me one good reason. Yeah, 532 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: I don't see it. I'll go Liberty plus the points 533 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: text better. 534 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: But I don't trust in the blow anyone out, and 535 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on SMU Okay. 536 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: So let's go to the afternoon three point thirty Florida, Georgia. 537 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: The line is four and a half the world's largest 538 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: outdoor cocktail party. Maybe less of a party than usual 539 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: this year, but the game's still going on, which is cool. 540 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: The winner of this one is basically the winner of 541 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: the SEC East. So in this contest, Daniel, I'm ready, 542 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: which SEC East juggernaut do you trust more? Do you 543 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: trust Georgia with its defense top defense in the nation 544 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: per the SP plus? Or do you trust in Florida 545 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: and the Kyle Driver and the number four offense per 546 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: the SP plus. 547 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: I think I trust Georgia a little more. I think 548 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: I find myself always regretting not rolling with the better 549 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: defense if that defense has an excellent ceiling. Even though yes, 550 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: they gave up points against Alabama, I don't believe Florida 551 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: is stacked. Even though I do love k Pop, I 552 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: do love the Kyle Driver, I don't think they have 553 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: that what are you supposed to do? Element? Whereas Alabama 554 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: at that moment anyway, when Jayalen Watta was healthy, most 555 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: certainly did so worry about the Florida defense, even though 556 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: they look to take a step forward against Miszoo. I 557 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: think Georgia is good enough here, even though man rolling 558 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: with Stets and Bennett in a big game is not 559 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: my favorite favorite thing. But how many points? How many 560 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: points does Florida need to score for you to feel 561 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: confident that they can win this game against his defense? 562 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? See, that's that's the question. 563 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: I think twenty seven. Yeah, I've got the final at 564 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: twenty eight to twenty one in. 565 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: Favor of Florida. Okay, so I for me, Florida is 566 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: the answer because I do think the offense is good 567 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: enough to move the ball. In Georgia, they can beat 568 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: you a couple different ways. They can create mismatches with 569 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: that scheme. The defense is definitely a liability, but I 570 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: don't necessarily have faith in Stets in Bennett, and that 571 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: could be to my everlasting shame. But after being great 572 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: initially and definitely serviceable, don't get me wrong, like this 573 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: is not a bad quot Benny stretch, but now that 574 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: we're a couple weeks into this thing, the numbers just 575 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: aren't that exciting. Fifty eight percent completion percentage, seven touchdowns, 576 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 2: five picks. I like them enough, but I am not 577 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: necessarily buying in on him in a big spot like this. 578 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: So I think fun game. I think Florida's got enough offense. 579 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: I think it's tight. But I'm going Florida twenty eight 580 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: to twenty one here. 581 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: And it did take in your defense. It did take 582 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: an outstanding performance from the Texas A and M offense 583 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: to beat this Florida team, albeit in college station, not 584 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: a neutral site in Jacksonville bus right away, so I 585 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: understand it. I am just a little bit worried that 586 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: Florida may not have that second or third CounterPunch if 587 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: the Georgia defense is performing, and that Georgia will slow 588 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: this game down if they're able to force some three 589 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: and outs. And this is a Georgia team that will 590 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: tackle in the open field, unlike anybody Florida has play 591 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: or I believe will play this year. Right Florida has Arkansas, Andy, Kentucky, Tennessee, LSU. 592 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: Most certainly this looks like their final obstacle on their 593 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: way to a one lost season. If they're able to 594 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: get over Georgia, I'm just going to roll with what 595 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: I still believe to be the best unit on the field, 596 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: albeit not by much. And that's the Georgia defense. I 597 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: have it twenty three to twenty Georgia, So I suppose 598 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: I have Florida covering. I think it's going to be 599 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: quite tight and back and forth. 600 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: We both are going points here. I do like that. 601 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: I think that's the right move. Okay, also in that slot, 602 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: this one at four o'clock, it's Oklahoma State minus ten 603 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: and a half on the road in Lil Apple against 604 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: K State. Are we both now at the point where 605 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: we feel it's safe to bet against K State? Have 606 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: we both gotten there? 607 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, think I'm but but yes, I think I'm there. 608 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: And it's the Skylar Thompson loss is just such an 609 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: incredib do ble bummer. I assume he's going to come 610 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: back next year because everybody gets sort of a free 611 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: pass eligibility wise, we'll see. I just think that combination 612 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: of the what I still think is a strong Oklahoma 613 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: State defense against Will Howard and those playmakers, and case 614 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: State's vulnerability if they're not able to churn out longer 615 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: drives because of inconsistency, it's going to wear down the defense. 616 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: I think Oloma State's a couple touchdowns better. 617 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, I especially after last week, especially in 618 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: this matchup, I really like Oklahoma State. 619 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: This is the best defense they're going to see all year. 620 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: The offense is shaky to begin with, and last week 621 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: was a straight up mess, so I don't really have 622 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 2: that reason go case State here. Oklahoma State still has 623 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: a lot to play for. 624 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: Last week was obviously not the kind of game that's 625 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: going to make him feel good, but they still do. 626 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: K State's offense line, by the way, could have an 627 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: extremely long day. Yeah. 628 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: I like Oklahoma State here by a couple touchdowns. 629 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Okay. 630 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Were some other action, a bunch of games in that 631 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: afternoon Slate. Let me read off a few in groups here. 632 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: You could tell me if I could jump out to you. 633 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 2: In the Big Ten, we've got Minnesota minus nine and 634 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 2: a half against Illinois, and we've also got Maryland plus 635 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 2: twenty five and a half on the road at Penn State. 636 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: I think I'm taking Illinois plus the points why I 637 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 2: don't like them outright, but the Minnesota defense to me 638 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: is now a huge question mark, huge question mark. And 639 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: even though it's Illinois, Illinois has a little history of 640 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 2: being plucky for Lovey Smith. Okay, so I'm going points 641 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: here at home. 642 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need more than that. I'm gonna need more 643 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: than a history because Illinois is down dudes on offense 644 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: and they don't move the ball all that off and 645 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: I know it islatively close last week. I think Minnesota 646 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: it's not a net crack. It's just a nice matchup 647 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: against Illinois. I'm not a believer in sky Yuma this 648 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: year after what we've seen these past couple weeks, especially 649 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: with those losses on defense. But Minnesota is not just 650 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: I understand if Talia tung of Iloa is good or 651 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: somewhat good, and Mike Loxley's known for recent interesting if 652 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: not excellent offense as being a part of them, I 653 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 1: understand that Maryland is going to have some nice offensive 654 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,959 Speaker 1: performances this year, even in losing efforts, Even in big 655 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: losing efforts. I don't see that sort of ceiling for Illinois, 656 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: especially with backups at quarterback. So I think Minnesota can 657 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: stumble into a comfortable win against a team down on 658 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: offense and not all that strong on defense thus far. 659 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, I have missed horribly on Minnesota 660 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: each of the first two weeks. So sure, if you're 661 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: out there, if you're in some sort of pool or 662 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: maybe laying a few shekels, go with Dan, don't go 663 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 2: with me on this one. 664 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: Illinois can run the ball some, and that's interesting. They're 665 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: generating chunkier plays Illinois, so they need to build the 666 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 1: whole plane out of those longer runs and longer pass plays. 667 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: But if Minnesota can do basic things in terms of that, 668 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they can in terms of keeping a 669 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: line I plays in front of them. Illinois is not 670 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: a marching team down the field. So I'm going to 671 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: bank on that. 672 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: We've got Kansas at Oklahoma, We've got Texas Tech at TCU, 673 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 2: pit at Florida State. We argued about this game on 674 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: the bruin a trying to figure out who'd be favored here. 675 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: Pits favored by one and a half. Do you have 676 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 2: a lean in this game? Do you feel any kind 677 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: of tingle one way or the other? 678 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: No, I'm tingle free since eighty three times, I don't 679 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: have much in the way I can find interest and 680 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: or feigne interest in a lot of matchups, especially as 681 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: they get close, like Okay, that's an interesting storyline to 682 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: now pay attention to. The twenty twenty Pit season and 683 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Florida State seasons are not. They don't 684 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: fall into any of those categories for me right now. 685 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it's close, late and weird and I'll flip it 686 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: on over and who knows what happens. Maybe Florida Georgia 687 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: is not all that exciting. This game starts before then, 688 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: I believe. But Pitt's favorite on the road. Sure, I 689 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: think they just lost their their safety. There's one of 690 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: their starting safeties just opted out of the season. Yeah, 691 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Florida State here. They're at home there, Pitt. 692 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 1: Just last time we like previously on Pitt Football, they 693 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: lost by forty two. I'll go with Florida State at home. 694 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'll do that too. Okay, some other 695 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 2: games here real quick, Vandy, Mississippi State. We've got UMass 696 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: Marshall Houston Cincinnati game we talked about earlier. Cincinnati a 697 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 2: double digit favorite, and then we got Arizona Utah Dan 698 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: Utah favored by about two touchdowns. You gotta lean in 699 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: the Pac twelve here. 700 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: I do like Utah. I like Utah, even though there's 701 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot on both sides of the ball. Pretty new 702 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: for the Utes. I'm not a big fan of what 703 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: Arizona has talent wise, even with a promising quarterback in 704 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: Grant Gunnell. I am. I'm just not a fan. I'm 705 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: gonna go with Utah here too. I mean, the way 706 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: they started out the season last year was impressive, and 707 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: then they were blowing teams out. But they're a legit 708 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: crock potting team. We'll see what happens with Jake Bentley. 709 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: As for the rest of the matchups you mentioned, I 710 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: like TCU here. I think they should run pretty well 711 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: on Texas Tech. I like Oklahoma big just because it's 712 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,959 Speaker 1: Kansas and it's minus anything. I actually like Penn State 713 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: here against Maryland. Yeah, Penn State absolutely obliterated Maryland last year. 714 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: Now could be a new turp team after what we 715 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: saw last week being competitive against a subpar Minnesota team 716 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: but not completely out of the universe Minnesota. I think 717 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: Penn States do for something big. I think they're too talented, 718 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: not too even with the issues that they have on 719 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I still like Penn State 720 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: here and the line actually didn't fully make sense to me. 721 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: I could have gone with like an eighteen and a 722 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: half or for Penn State here going into the mid twenties. 723 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: It felt like a lot, and I'm just gonna steer 724 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: into it. It's one of those that I lines that 725 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't fully understand. But I can't make a strong 726 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: case for Maryland after what we saw in week one. 727 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,799 Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna be too inconsistent. So at 728 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: Penn State, I think the Knits bounce back. The Knits 729 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: bounce back. Yeah, I also don't watch Vandy Mississippi State. 730 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: Now, don't watch it. I'm still I'm still a little 731 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 2: bit leery about going against tull Leah Tungue ii looa 732 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: after what we saw, you go, I am, I am 733 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 2: a little bit. 734 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: But how many points does Maryland need to score to 735 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: cover this spread? 736 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: Well, twenty five and a half. I don't think much 737 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: of their defense, Penn State should get into the forties. 738 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 2: I would say I would expect that they get into 739 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 2: the forties. So what seventeen points? Maybe? Could they score 740 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 2: seventeen points? 741 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: Nine? Nothing in College Park last year? 742 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 2: Moving on, this is the biggin for me? 743 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: Oh seven thirty Clemson minus six and a half that sound. 744 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like a gunner role from my abdomen, 745 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: from your loins. Oh Man, Clemson minus six and a 746 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: half on the road at Notre Dame seven thirty at night. Clemson, 747 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: of course, will be starting DJ we on galile A. 748 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 2: Did I get it right? 749 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 3: No? 750 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 1: You didn't. 751 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 2: What is it OUI? 752 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: You know, like the the beginning of the chorus of 753 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: Buddy Holly by Weezer, like. 754 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 4: Oo oui oui u yan galile a oui ouhinga anga 755 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: lalay lalay ooh yong laalay uyangaal la. 756 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 2: No, I screwed. 757 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: It's the end part is advanced tongue work, I will say, 758 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: and I apologize for a second advanced time. 759 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 2: We're so sorry, Gala. 760 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you nailed it. That was great. 761 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 2: You know. 762 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: I took in a YouTube video or two trying to 763 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: figure this out, and pronunciations is not my thing. Then 764 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: I overthink it and it's a me thing, not you. 765 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: He is starting that guy, DJ is starting in place 766 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. We pretty much had this line pegged when 767 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: we tried to guess it on the Sunday brewin A 768 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: or Sunday Extended recap excuse me that we offer on Patreon. 769 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: It is notable here that these teams could maybe meet 770 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: again in a hypothetical ACC championship. So don't assume that 771 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: if Notre Dame or even Clemson, whoever wins, don't assume 772 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 1: this is the only matchup. There's a really good shot 773 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,359 Speaker 1: that they could meet again depending on on how these 774 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 1: things go. 775 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: Do you have a lean here? How do you feel 776 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 2: about this game? 777 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: I think a very promising, if not very good defense 778 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: at home against a backup quarterback making his first road 779 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 1: road start. If I were a wagering man, that's where 780 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: I would go interesting. I think dju is already quite promising, 781 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: has a an absolute what do people like saying Howitzer. 782 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: And he can really spin it. 783 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: You know you can spin it. Yeah, he can run, 784 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: he's big. We saw those, you know, third down conversions 785 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: on some quarterback keepers and the read option game. Clemson 786 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: has the best offensive skill players. I might even venture 787 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: to say djau is talent wise, he's better than Ian Book, 788 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: not in terms of what he has produced, not in 789 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: terms of what he has accomplished, but in terms of 790 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: I've seen him go downfield to some good receivers I 791 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: don't see that often from Ian book. I mean between 792 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Travis Etn and Mari Rodgers, like, there's just there's more 793 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,359 Speaker 1: too like about game breaking with Clemson. Obviously that it's 794 00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: not a controversial statement, but No Name d looks to 795 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: be really good. I don't know if Notre Dame has 796 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: played any game changing players or game changing teams or whatever, 797 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: so that that's a slight concern to me. But in generally, 798 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: if we're talking about my ethos my philosophy, I'm going 799 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: to roll with what I think is a good defense 800 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: at home. And there have been spot moments for Notre 801 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: Dame players on offense, be it what Kyron Williams and 802 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: Sebo Flemster. How do you pronounce the name Flemister? Yeah, yeah, 803 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: I just I don't know what the CounterPunch is for 804 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. So if you're taking Notre Dame here, you're 805 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 1: buying them confusing DJU, forcing him into a couple mistakes. 806 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't, you know. I don't think the environment's going 807 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: to be all that altering because it's not a full 808 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: stadium or anything, but I'm going to go with that defense. 809 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm going to go with the green nature of dju 810 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 1: as a college football player and hope for a close 811 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: game to prove my theory correct. Now obviously, and I 812 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: think you'll agree with me here. If we are picking 813 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: which team is likelier to blow out the other team 814 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: in the case that this game is a blowout, it's Clemson. 815 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: It's Clemson, right, It's Clemson. Absolutely. 816 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's gonna be a Julian Was 817 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: it Julian Love who got hurt in the playoff game? Yeah, 818 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be that situation where like 819 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: a player like Kyle Hamilton leaves and the floodgates open 820 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: for Clemson. I don't believe in that's sort of like 821 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: hinging for Notre Dame. 822 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 2: The sticking point for me is that Clemson's good enough 823 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: to stack the box and shut down Notre Dame on 824 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 2: the ground, and I don't think Ian Book is good 825 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 2: enough to beat him through the air. And that's it 826 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 2: that It's that simple for me. I think Notre Dame 827 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 2: has a bit of a problem problem. Like you like 828 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 2: to say, it's catching on who's the go to playmaking 829 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: threat on the offense. If Clemson decides they want to 830 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: take away the run's who's next up? I don't know. 831 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there are guys who are good in spots. 832 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 2: Michael maher is good for like an eight yard catch, 833 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 2: and maybe Ben'skarnic can go up for a jump ball, 834 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 2: but he's not quick. Who's that guy? I don't know. 835 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: And so that's where I have a really. 836 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 1: Harder point counterpoint. Notre Dame is way better than I are. 837 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: They're more talented and definitely better than Syracuse and Boston 838 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: College for sure, two teams that Clemson has had weird 839 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: weeks against. 840 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: Well, as a Notre Dame fan, you know, I hope 841 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 2: you're right, but sure, I'm just not necessarily buying it. 842 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 2: Clemson rises to these games. And if you're asking me 843 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: the question, well, how does Notre Dame win? I guess 844 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: it's Clemson playing without Trevor Lawrence somehow that changing the calculus. 845 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 2: DJU is going to be real good. But this is 846 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: also a really good Notre Dame defense that creates havoc 847 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 2: and they're just all around solid. So if this is 848 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: going to be the dink and dunk offense for Notre Dame, 849 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 2: they're going to need defense. They're gonna need field position, 850 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: and I think Notre Dame can play that game for 851 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 2: a while. I do, but it's a question of how long. 852 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 2: For how long can they because eventually somebody on Clemson's 853 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: going to break the bank and they're going to score 854 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: points on a long play. That's kind of what I'm 855 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,919 Speaker 2: expecting here. I think it's close most of the way. 856 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,280 Speaker 2: I think it's defense in punts. I think Clemson eventually 857 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 2: breaks the dam and they break it wide open. They 858 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: win by like ten, something like thirty one to twenty one. 859 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: Is this as I've seen? Our friend Pete Samson mentioned 860 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: a full on referendum of the Brian Kelly era since 861 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: the playoff loss. Wow, it's an ideal situation, right, You're 862 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,360 Speaker 1: at home with a good defense against a backup quarterback. 863 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: The stars have aligned for you, against a nationally elite team. 864 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 2: I understand that point of view. 865 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,320 Speaker 1: If not now, then when. 866 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 2: I understand that point of view, I really do, and 867 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,919 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think it's the wrong one. 868 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 2: But to be honest with you, I just I don't 869 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 2: think as highly of this Notre Dame team as I 870 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 2: have others in the very recent past, and it's it's 871 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,439 Speaker 2: tough for me to get behind that. It really is. 872 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: Find some winter wonders. Notre Dame, what are we doing? 873 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: It's it's tough find it. Find a six two and 874 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: five pound receiver who can run a four to four 875 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: and disrupt some defenses. 876 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,839 Speaker 2: Both things can be true. By the way, both things 877 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 2: can be true. You know, this can absolutely be a 878 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 2: referendum given. 879 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: With a third year starter quarterback as well. 880 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 2: Given the circumstances. Yeah, so I totally get that. At 881 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,279 Speaker 2: the same time, I think, you know, you got to 882 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 2: look at the team. You got to look at the 883 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 2: circumstance here, and it's it's not a high powered aerial 884 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 2: threat offense, you know. I mean they like to run 885 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: the ball. 886 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: Notre Dame does. On defense, I mean they. 887 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 2: Create havoc, they really do. They're good at They're good 888 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 2: at getting behind the one of scrimmage. 889 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: They're good at disrupting lines. Yeah, yeah, they're really so 890 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: they're down what they're there? They're buck linebacker Maris Loufou 891 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: targeting call. Yes, I believe against was it Georgia Tech 892 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:54,640 Speaker 1: last week? 893 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 2: Right? 894 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: Right? Okay, so somewhere to watch a pick on situation 895 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: maybe with your a CTN. 896 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: What's your final. 897 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 1: Twenty seven twenty four Clemson. 898 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 2: All right. Also at seven o'clock A and M Texas 899 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: A and M on the road minus seven and a 900 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 2: half against South Carolina. It's worth reiterating, I think for 901 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: A and m's sake, their only loss was to Alabama, 902 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,520 Speaker 2: not necessarily something to be ashamed of. They did knock 903 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 2: off Florida or Florida excuse me, as we alluded to earlier. 904 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 2: They've got five games left in this season. This is 905 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: technically the easiest one, per the sp Plus, I like 906 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: South Carolina. I don't like them this much. 907 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: What do you like about South Carolina? 908 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 2: My sticking point is that I still do not have 909 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 2: a high degree of confidence in A and M covering 910 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 2: on the road. That's the only sticking point for me. 911 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 2: I'm confident they'll win, I'm not sure by how much. 912 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 2: And the line the line to me is feels very low. 913 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719 Speaker 2: Let's say you Texas A and M lock of the week, 914 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 2: bluck of the week, lock. 915 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: Of the week, block of the week. As weird as 916 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,239 Speaker 1: it set, it sounds to say. Once Texas A and 917 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: M got by Arkansas, a season, a relatively special season 918 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: became more real. But Arkansas, that Arkansas game is always 919 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: strange even when Arkansas is especially down, and the fact 920 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640 Speaker 1: that they comfortably won that game by ten or eleven 921 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: points and LSU has fallen too. The depth the depths, 922 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: there's my english that they have. The Auburn game is 923 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be tricky, but that the next I think 924 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: it's four games South Carolina, Tennessee on the road, Ole 925 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: miss LSU just I think became so much more real, 926 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: and I think A and M is going to comfortably 927 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: beat South Carolina by two to three touchdowns because I 928 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: don't like the South Carolina defense. I think Kellen Mond 929 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: is coming into his own. I like the A and 930 00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: M tight end. I like the A and M running game. 931 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: You know, the receiving corps is up and down. But 932 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: I like a NYA Smith as an all purpose weapon. 933 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: So yeah, I really do think they're locked in in 934 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: a way that I was hoping for but not necessarily expecting. 935 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,359 Speaker 1: Give me A and M comfortably because South Carolina at 936 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 1: this point has done what exactly to give you. I 937 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: mean the Auburn win is that, like they comfortably beat Vanderbilt, 938 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: they lose in a weird close Week one to Tennessee. 939 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: They sort of make it interesting against Florida, but still 940 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: lose by two touchdowns and then just get the doors 941 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: blown off that defense as by an LSU offense. I 942 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 1: don't think we think huge things of after last week. 943 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,879 Speaker 1: So A and M is surprisingly consistent in a sea 944 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 1: of unease. 945 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go A and M here. It's sort 946 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 2: of against my better judgment. I don't know why. I'm 947 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 2: very leary of this one, but. 948 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think South Carolina has a heartbeat on defense. 949 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 1: If they did, I understand your learness. 950 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 2: All right, you're gonna be watching Stanford against Oregon, your Oregon. 951 00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,279 Speaker 1: I'll be watching both this and Clemson Notre Dame at 952 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: the same time. 953 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon's an eleven and a half point home favorite. 954 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 2: Here to talk to me a little bit about this game, 955 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 2: So I still need to do some remediation on the 956 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 2: PAC twelve and get a sense for where things are at. 957 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 2: But if the line tells you anything, and I think 958 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 2: it accurately portrays Stanford in this case, but Cardinal might 959 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,479 Speaker 2: be looking at a step back year or mediocre year. 960 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: And you know, Oregon's got questions, but they should be 961 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 2: clearly the better team. 962 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: Stanford finished last season as the eighty eighth ranked SP 963 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 1: plus team seventy fourth on offense, eighty seventh on defense. 964 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: If they're taking a step back from that, I don't 965 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 1: know what the future of Stanford looks like. I think 966 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: they'll be better. They had the quarterback injury, bad luck 967 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: last year, and now obviously kJ Costello gone, Davis Mills 968 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: full time quarterback. They should have a very good offensive line. 969 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 1: But this was a nightmare. You talk about noted ames 970 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,280 Speaker 1: like problem problems in winter wonders. I don't know who's 971 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: making plays for Stanford this year, like they just it's 972 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: a complete lack of dudes for the Cardinal as far 973 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: as I can tell. Now Oregon new quarterback, Oregon, new 974 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Oregon fully new offensive line, Oregon largely new 975 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,240 Speaker 1: full time starting secondary. Though a lot of the guys 976 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,760 Speaker 1: back because they lose what Brady Breese and Thomas Graham 977 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: and Jevon Holland, three starters in their secondary opting out. 978 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,319 Speaker 1: But they're so deep on defense. Their defense was so 979 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: good last year. It was sort of a workmanlike effort 980 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:42,439 Speaker 1: at Stanford. I expect a weird beginning to this game 981 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: with all of those new pieces and all of those places, 982 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,320 Speaker 1: but Ultimately, I think they're going to score points on defense, 983 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: maybe on special teams because Mchael Wright is a special 984 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 1: kick returner, and I'm going to go Oregon here, something 985 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: like thirty four to twenty. They cover this relative front 986 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: door cover relatively late. Should be noted forties and rainy. 987 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 2: I do have a sound, by the way, please front 988 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,640 Speaker 2: door cover. You just got to warn me in advance, 989 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 2: but sorry, sorry, they're going to scare a lot of dogs. 990 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: That sounded. It's fine, chance of rain forties, so it'll 991 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: be a little cold, a little wet. But I just 992 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about Oregon and some of 993 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: the new faces coming in. 994 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 2: I haven't I didn't look to see what the weather 995 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,840 Speaker 2: is going to be in South Bend because we've had, 996 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 2: you know, the. 997 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: Clear in South Bend, so showers and wind. Florida, Georgia. 998 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, No, Mon's soon game for Notre Dame Clemson. 999 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 1: Not that I can tell. I can check, I can 1000 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,800 Speaker 1: give you various I can give you specifics, is what 1001 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you right now. But I looked 1002 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: it up earlier and it did not stand out to me. 1003 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: It looks like a high in the high sixties during 1004 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,919 Speaker 1: the day. Kickoff is what seven thirty eight o'clock local time, 1005 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: seven thirty Yeah, clear in the fifties South in Indiana, 1006 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: Saturday night at eight pm. Precipitation three percent, chance, wind 1007 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 1: seven miles an hour. 1008 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: Cool, Okay, A bunch of other nightcaps to go through. 1009 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 2: Let's stay in the pac twelve three games. Ucla minus 1010 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 2: five and a half against Colorado. We've got Washington minus 1011 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 2: two and a half against Cal and Washington State minus 1012 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 2: two and a half against Oregon State. Mm hmm, so 1013 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: low numbers there. 1014 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: To be love Ucla because I am not all that 1015 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: confident in Colorado being competitive this year. Washington against Cal. 1016 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll with Cal defense at home against a 1017 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: Washington team with what a new head coach and Jimmy Lake, 1018 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: your boy John Donovan finally coordinator. 1019 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 2: Cal's my home doog of the week. 1020 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: It's a good home dog. I like that. I didn't 1021 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: pick one yet. 1022 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 2: Dog of the week. Google for Garber's. 1023 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: Baby, Google for Garber's Yeah, they might have. I mean, 1024 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: they're not expected to have winter wonders. They're not supposed 1025 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: to be playing deep into January. If that's when things 1026 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,920 Speaker 1: are going to be played. But they still have a 1027 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: skill position deficit at Cal that that really is the 1028 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: missing link. They have a new offensive coordinator as well. 1029 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 1: It hasn't been an amazing year to be learning a 1030 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: new offense rep wise, but I think I like Cal here, 1031 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: especially after a couple couple straight wins against Washington. I 1032 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: like Oregon State against Wazoo. That's another fully overhauled team 1033 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: with a new coaching staff under Nick Rolovich, who himself 1034 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,080 Speaker 1: got off to not the best start I would say 1035 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: in Pullman. So I'm gonna go with Oregon State there 1036 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 1: because of that promising defense and Jonathan Smith really getting 1037 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: that team competitive quickly. And I think those are the 1038 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,799 Speaker 1: three games you asked me about. You want to go 1039 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,000 Speaker 1: sec ACC Big twelve. Yeah. 1040 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm with you on UCLA. Okay, I'm 1041 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 2: tempted to lock that one up, but I just don't 1042 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,439 Speaker 2: know much about the Pac twelve yet. 1043 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: Sorry. 1044 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 2: Have to fully admit that cal I was on that 1045 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 2: one early. So I'll stick with CAL and I'll go 1046 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 2: Oregon State too. 1047 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,280 Speaker 1: Okay, you say that he has a couple promising players 1048 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: on offense the defense, we'll see what. I don't think 1049 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: Colorado is the team to take advantage. 1050 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,600 Speaker 2: Seven point thirty. We've got Tennessee minus a point and 1051 00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,440 Speaker 2: a half on the road at Arkansas. Dan, at Kansas. 1052 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,520 Speaker 2: It is now November. 1053 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: Mm hmm portlanda rottig. I like that we've kept it out. 1054 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Bielma hasn't been there for a number of years, but. 1055 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:19,879 Speaker 1: It's just two coaches ago now. 1056 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:27,479 Speaker 2: But November does something that sticks with Arkansas henceforth. And look, 1057 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: this is an interesting spot here. A point and a half. 1058 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,399 Speaker 2: It's low number. The Valls were on bye last week, 1059 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 2: but they lost three straight before that to Georgia, Kentucky 1060 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 2: and Alabama. Not easy but on a bit of a skid. 1061 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 2: The Hogs are tasty. They are plucky. 1062 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 1: Dan, Tennessee coming off of bye. 1063 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: Point in a half. How do you feel about this game? O? Tasty? 1064 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Arkansas is my home dog of the week. 1065 00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't need to play it again, 1066 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: but you can. 1067 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: The Yokos it's home dog of the week. 1068 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: It's emotional for me, ty, I don't know if it's 1069 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,360 Speaker 1: fully rational. Tennessee has not won a game in a 1070 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: month now. You mentioned Georgia, Kentucky, Alabama seven points against 1071 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: Kentucky at home. They lost the Georgia game by twenty three. 1072 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: I know it was close to the half. The Alabama 1073 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: game was really never all that close. They end up 1074 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: losing that one by thirty one. I think a decent 1075 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: defense at home. As a dog at night, Arkansas at night, 1076 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: Barry otom bumper Pool, I think there's some hogs in 1077 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: this house, Ti, and I'm going to Arkansas by six 1078 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 1: or seven. 1079 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 2: So I just in this house. 1080 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. The Tennessee offense to me is it's just it's 1081 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: too rough a watch, and they get off the field 1082 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: too quickly. They're not stringing together even relatively successful plays. 1083 00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: Now Arkansas and their defense the talent wise and production 1084 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: wise in anywhere near Alabama, Kentucky or Georgia. But I 1085 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes the college football gods just smile down 1086 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: upon thee and I think it's one of those years 1087 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: for Arkansas. So once again, there are some hogs in 1088 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: this house. And in this house the dog the home 1089 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: dog of the weeks are Barkin home Dogs of the week. Yeah, 1090 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200 Speaker 1: I am going to go Arkansas as well. I'm going 1091 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: to go Arkansas as well. We have a contingent of 1092 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,560 Speaker 1: Arkansas fans that listen to this show and have for 1093 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: years waited for something to hang their hats on. That's 1094 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 1: part of why novembert the borderline e rotics sound as 1095 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: it's listed here on my soundboard is still a thing 1096 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 1: all these years later. 1097 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 2: Two coaches removed, So let's go hogs. Why not? 1098 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: There are some hogs in this house. Tie everybody knows. 1099 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 2: It real quick. Four other games here that I just 1100 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 2: want to mention. Saturday night, We've got Louisville on the 1101 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 2: road at Virginia Genia minus two and a half, Baylor 1102 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:56,720 Speaker 2: Iowa State, Iowa States favored by two touchdowns, South Alabama 1103 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 2: against Coastal Carolina Coastal favored by seventeen and Rutgers Ohio State. 1104 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 2: I didn't even see a line in this game. I 1105 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: don't know if it matters for our purposes, but any 1106 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 2: thoughts on those before I quickly moved to two night 1107 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: caps on Friday. 1108 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: Louisville Virginia is intriguing to me. I believe Louisville beat 1109 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: them last year. If I'm looking at this correctly. They 1110 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: beat them by a touchdown in twenty nineteen, and Virginia 1111 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: has had issues this year, certainly when Brendan Armstrong hasn't 1112 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: been in but I Virginia is confounding what they hold 1113 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: on to beat North Carolina last week. They're not generating 1114 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: big plays at all on offense, but their defense is 1115 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 1: relatively interesting against the run and kind of a nightmare 1116 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 1: against the past. So if we are to believe Louisville 1117 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: is playing a series of what seven or eight seasons 1118 00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: within twenty twenty, I'm going to roll with once again 1119 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals as a successful team against Virginia, and I 1120 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: think they're going to light them up through the air. 1121 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: So give me, give me Louisville on the road here 1122 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:00,760 Speaker 1: to fly the script a bit. 1123 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 2: My nominee for a fifty one to fifty three overtime 1124 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 2: thriller is probably that game out Ville Virginia. I'm not 1125 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 2: expecting much defense, but I do like Virginia. I'm gonna 1126 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: go Virginia in that game. 1127 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: Iowa State big? Did you mention Ohio State Rutgers? 1128 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:20,360 Speaker 2: I mentioned it very briefly. 1129 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: Is there a line? I didn't see it down here? 1130 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:24,439 Speaker 2: I didn't see. 1131 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I suppose Ohio State minus anything at National Coastal Coastal 1132 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Carolina the Shans sixteen and a half seventeen point favorites 1133 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: against the Jags South Alabama. You know I'm going to 1134 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,919 Speaker 1: shots that impossible, internship, Hi, come. 1135 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 2: On, I don't have a lock yet. I'm inclined to 1136 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 2: go Iowa State just because Baylor's kind of a mess. 1137 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 1: But Baylor's kind of mess showed fight coming back against 1138 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: TCU when the Frogs took there. 1139 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 2: I know that's what's their web feed off the pedal 1140 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: final two games here on Friday. We've got Miami minus 1141 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 2: nine and a half on the road at NC State, 1142 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 2: and we've got a big one nine forty five BYU 1143 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 2: minus two and a half on the road against Boise State. 1144 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I like Miami. I think Miami is going to do 1145 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: a good job against NC State. I like I think 1146 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: that their their time off will serve them well to 1147 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: get things cleaned up. Did they just they just had 1148 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: a bye week Miami? I believe, yes, yes, correct, Yeah, 1149 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,320 Speaker 1: because I didn't come across just super frustrated Miami fans 1150 01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: on social media. So that's what made me assume that 1151 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 1: the Canes were off BYU Boise. 1152 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, given me the vapors, man. 1153 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how late I'm gonna stay up for 1154 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: this game. I might watch the first half of least. 1155 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: It's eight forty five PM, not nine to forty five 1156 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: for me in uh in God's time zone apparently, But 1157 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 1: we don't know if Hank Bochmeer is playing. My guess 1158 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: is no problem. I guess is the secrecy surrounding his 1159 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,439 Speaker 1: absence last week against air Force is either discipline or 1160 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 1: COVID related. 1161 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: The secrecy envelope around Hank Bachmeyer. 1162 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 1: Is yeah, somewhat same sealed as well. Yeah, I'm gonna 1163 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: go BYU here. I'm gonna go BYU here because I 1164 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: think they are. I mean, I hate that it's on 1165 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 1: the road. I think poise the slow start last week 1166 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: against air Force. Mind you, it's so early in Boise season, 1167 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: but still I think the game testedness, the size that 1168 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: the gravity of BYU starting the way that they have 1169 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: and now seeing Boise State as the biggest roadblock, I think, 1170 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think the road element's going to 1171 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 1: mean all that much. Give me Zach Wilson, give me 1172 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: the Koogs and given that it could be Jack Sears 1173 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: probably that's my double barrel lock of the week. 1174 01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Block of the week. When was the last time that 1175 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: you gave two locks? And I gave none. 1176 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been deficient in my locking and 1177 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:57,440 Speaker 1: now I'm making up for it. 1178 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't know who I want to lock up this week. 1179 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 2: I'm really struggling with it a little bit. 1180 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 1: Okay, well you want to go back through the games, 1181 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you who you sounded most confidently. 1182 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I sound most confident talking about. 1183 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: You sounded pretty confident, weird weirdly confident in Illinois. You 1184 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,080 Speaker 1: were confident in that Michigan State is not going to 1185 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,320 Speaker 1: look but that was more of a season long thing, 1186 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: you know what. I think. You sounded pretty confident in 1187 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: ASU with that early start against USC. You also defended 1188 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 1: your Indiana pick for quite some time against Michigan at home. 1189 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: That's a home dog situation. 1190 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1191 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,560 Speaker 1: You sounded pretty confident in West Virginia against Texas. The 1192 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,919 Speaker 1: West Virginia not great on the road. 1193 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Oklahoma State live a week. Give me 1194 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 2: the pokes, all right. That is all we have, Dan, Yeah, 1195 01:03:52,400 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 2: we do have some breaking news though, oh do we 1196 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:06,480 Speaker 2: We've been doing the Colonial League drum and fife. I know, 1197 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,240 Speaker 2: turns out they only played a six games, sleek sort of. 1198 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 2: It's over. It's over. We have no more games to 1199 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 2: discuss here, no more drum and fife to play. Northwestern 1200 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 2: Lehigh congratulations six and oh in conference Caddy rough Riders, 1201 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 2: ha ha ha one in six overall, bottom of the barrel. 1202 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 2: But Dan, yeah, what a season? 1203 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, Well, how do you judge Northwestern Lehigh it's 1204 01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,960 Speaker 1: six and one overall losing a non conference game, and 1205 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame Green Pond at six and oh overall but 1206 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: only played four conference games at four and. 1207 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Oh, ah, man, the Crusaders had it work in six 1208 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 2: and oh. 1209 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 1: This is sort of a test case, right, isn't it 1210 01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 1: sort of like an election where people are looking at 1211 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,920 Speaker 1: counties two years ahead when there's like a special election 1212 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,160 Speaker 1: like it swung two points. So this is our test 1213 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 1: case of how do you judge six six and one 1214 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: with six and oh four and oh? That's the start. 1215 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 1: This is what everybody's taught. You can't turn on a 1216 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,320 Speaker 1: TV without hearing herb Street or Klatt or anybody who 1217 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: at one point bleached their tips of their hair talking 1218 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: about Northwestern Green Pond. 1219 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,480 Speaker 2: I need to kill that music. Watch such a good song. Wow? 1220 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, we went the frot the Frosty friends. So 1221 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: Catasauqua at once uh, Salisbury Township at one in five 1222 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: bangor one and five pen Argyle at two and four 1223 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Wilson who I learned this recently. I think an email 1224 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,920 Speaker 1: or somebody on discord or somebody said that you are 1225 01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:46,520 Speaker 1: misrepresenting what exactly Wilson is as like a three block 1226 01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: radius within Easton. I think Palmerton, the Palmis, the fighting 1227 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Pommies at two and four, soccin Valley two and two. 1228 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 1: You're not far from there, right, are my mism Soccing. 1229 01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 2: Valley You're I'm not far from any of these spots, Dan. 1230 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: All right, okay, Northern le High four and three, pally High, which, yes, 1231 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: the record doesn't reflect it, but people are saying the 1232 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,880 Speaker 1: heart and soul of the Colonial League. They finished at 1233 01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 1: five and three and Southern le High posting an impressive 1234 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: four and one. M frosty friends. 1235 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 2: All right, Dan, well, fun show on this Spirit airline Saturday. 1236 01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, just. 1237 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 2: Take whatever you need, take whatever you need. You get 1238 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 2: there eventually. 1239 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. But you ever dye your hair? 1240 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:34,000 Speaker 2: No? 1241 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: Did you do blonde hair? 1242 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 4: No? 1243 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely not the only time. 1244 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 2: The only time I ever did anything to my hair 1245 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,520 Speaker 2: was one night when I had a few drinks in 1246 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: college on Halloween and decided I needed a last second costume. 1247 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 1248 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 2: And perhaps no week more fitting than this to say 1249 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 2: that I dressed as Sean Connery by using some sort 1250 01:06:55,120 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 2: of white spray in my hair. Okay, and in the 1251 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 2: absence of any real fake beard, trying to use Elmer's 1252 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,280 Speaker 2: glue to attach cotton balls to my actual face. 1253 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: How that work out? 1254 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 2: It did not work out, well, it really just did not. 1255 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 2: And I can't do as Sean connery British accent either, 1256 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 2: so I really just went as somebody who had white 1257 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 2: spray paint in their hair. 1258 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 1: Well do you do the Darryl Hammond snl Sean Connery? 1259 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,959 Speaker 1: Was that was the inspiration for it, That's what I imagine. Yeah, 1260 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: that was the. 1261 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Inspiration for it. At the time. All I can really 1262 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 2: do is welcome to the Rock. That's it. That's all 1263 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,200 Speaker 2: I have. And it sounds better in person than it 1264 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 2: just did on the microphone. But it's really not that good. 1265 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 1: No, But it's your connection to Sean Connery and Nick Cage, 1266 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 1: so it counts for something. My follow up question that 1267 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 1: we can leave because I just said the word frosty 1268 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of times. It was the last time you 1269 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: had Wendy's. I think whenever I see people arguing about 1270 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: spicy chick and fast food in the Chick fil A 1271 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 1: versus Popeyes whatever, I think Wendy's makes and I haven't 1272 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: had it in years now. I think they make a 1273 01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: pretty good spicy chicken sandwich. Tie. 1274 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: Not a sponsor, Wendy's, but you're not. 1275 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Not a sponsor, Absolutely not a sponsor. I think they 1276 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 1: brought spicy nugs back, which I think is a power move. 1277 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 2: I was in the car in the Wendy's drive through 1278 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,320 Speaker 2: on the phone with you at some point. 1279 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:30,560 Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember this, No, this wasn't that long familiar. Okay, 1280 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,920 Speaker 1: did I tell you to get the spicy chicken sandwich? 1281 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,040 Speaker 2: You told me get the spicy chicken nuggets, which I did. 1282 01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how are they? 1283 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 2: They're really good? 1284 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I have to look back to see 1285 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,439 Speaker 1: when that was, but it wasn't all that long ago. Yeah, 1286 01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:46,800 Speaker 1: look it up on your on your bank statement. 1287 01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 2: On my bank statement. I will, you know, I will. Okay. 1288 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a terrific, terrific fast food option. I 1289 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,720 Speaker 1: just haven't had it in a long time. Yeah, they're 1290 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: spicy chicken, it's worth I think the Jack in the 1291 01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 1: box spicy chicken is worth entering into the conversation if 1292 01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,280 Speaker 1: you like the crusty element. Popeyes is the move. Popeyes 1293 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: is definitely the move because they put a lot more 1294 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: batter on their chicken. I'm fine with it. I thought 1295 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,840 Speaker 1: it was good Chick fil A delicious, and especially it's 1296 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: bare bones because you're just throwing a couple of pickles beneath. 1297 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't go for whatever they call it the supreme, 1298 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: But if we're purely judging on the top of the 1299 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: top fast food spicy chicken options, I think Wendy's isn't 1300 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: that conversation. I think they really do bring the heat. 1301 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,759 Speaker 1: That's all fun show. 1302 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 2: We appreciate everyone downloading, listening, supporting the show. Subscribe if 1303 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 2: you haven't already, leave us a review if you are 1304 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:37,920 Speaker 2: ever so inclined, Every little bit helps here. Do you 1305 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 2: check out the Patreon at verballi Yeah dot com for 1306 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 2: some of the new bonus features that we're offering our 1307 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,640 Speaker 2: most ardent supporters. 1308 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,560 Speaker 1: I love spending time in that discord server. We go 1309 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 1: live and it and audio stuff and random times on 1310 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Saturday we'd obviously did the live scream and posted the 1311 01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,720 Speaker 1: link right there in the Discord server. But it's just 1312 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,559 Speaker 1: it's a really cool place to hang out with crazy 1313 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 1: but cool college football fans. We share recipes, We have 1314 01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,639 Speaker 1: fun there, Ty, we have. 1315 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,680 Speaker 2: We do we absolutely do all right. 1316 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I want more people in there, more people, 1317 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,160 Speaker 1: more like minded, fun, weird show college football fans. 1318 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Let's drive that turnout, baby, Yeah too soon, I don't know. 1319 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,920 Speaker 2: Let's drive the turnout. Appreciate everybody stopping by, supporting the show. 1320 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Enjoy your weekend of college football. Will be back on 1321 01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:28,920 Speaker 2: Friday to discuss some bigger picture stuff with our friend 1322 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman. It's going to stop by to talk about 1323 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,879 Speaker 2: his new book and some other PAC twelve related subjects. 1324 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 1: Excite un answered Feldman orbit some a week ago with 1325 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 1: its Hay Feldman orbit. Yeah, unanswered Feldman orbit. Yeah. 1326 01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 2: I think that's all right. 1327 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: Okay, that's all. 1328 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 2: I'm done with that guy over there, my good friend 1329 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 2: Dan Rubtsteed for myself, Ty hillon Brand, thank you so 1330 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 2: much for downloading, listing, supporting, you know, the drill catch 1331 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 2: on a few days. The meantime, Stay solid, peace,