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Speaker 1: Mike Keith with Amy Wells, it is good to see

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Speaker 1: you again. Amy. Hello, Mike Keith. I like being in person.

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Speaker 1: This is great, but distant. Yes, we are distant, which

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Speaker 1: Someone who is never emotionally or socially distant is the

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Speaker 1: very friendly and loving Rhett Bryan from Titans Radio, who

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Speaker 1: is our special guest on this edition of the Official

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Speaker 1: Titans Podcast. Hello sir, Hello sir. That's quite the introduction.

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Speaker 1: He's the man you want to hug when you see him,

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Speaker 1: over all, right, So as we delve into what has happened,

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Speaker 1: and you know, after the splash signings of Bud Dupree

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Speaker 1: And it's colmost like, it's almost like the backside of

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Speaker 1: the thing. It became official. Kevin Johnson comes to the

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Speaker 1: Titans from the Browns. He's also been with the Bills,

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Speaker 1: a first round pick veteran who has played against the

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Speaker 1: Titans in every season of his NFL career. Amy, Well,

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Speaker 1: But it's someone who can bring some veteran experience to

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Speaker 1: interesting battle because if we think about it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: only remaining Titan starter in the secondaries, Kevin Byrd from

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Speaker 1: what was the highest paid secondary in the National Football

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Speaker 1: And I had a chance to talk to him about it,

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Speaker 1: like that. Norris Jenkins, Welcome to the Tennessee Titans. We've

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Speaker 1: Why did you elevate your game in twenty twenty. I

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Speaker 1: the football. And then all the rules have been changed

429
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: to where I mean, you know, you go across the middle,

430
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,239
Speaker 1: you get janetatumed or you know whatever. You can't do

431
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 1: it anymore, right, No tiptoeing, No tiptoeing. Yes, Well, the

432
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 1: other thing you're always looking for is you're always looking

433
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: for guys to rush the passer. And the Titans got

434
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: Bud dupreed last week. They got Denko Autry last week.

435
00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: This week Ola a dainty, interesting, interesting player. I think

436
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:08,120
Speaker 1: he's probably been signed more for special teams because the

437
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: Titans need special teams help, and he was a really

438
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: good special teams player for the Pittsburgh Steelers the last

439
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: two years six one, two forty eight, three years out

440
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: of Toledo, Brett Kern's alma model. Yes and yeah, I agree.

441
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: I think he's a core special teams person with an

442
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: upside to help you as a rotational pass rusher. I

443
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: do believe he can do that because most games last

444
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: year the Titans only kept three outside linebackers up right,

445
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: because the majority of their outside linebackers down the line

446
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: were not good special teams players, right. So being able

447
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: to have that versatility and contribute on special teams, which

448
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: is such a point of emphasis for this Titans team,

449
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: having players who if you're going to be up to

450
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: play on Sundays, you have to be able to contribute

451
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: in multiple areas for the most part, and so being

452
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: able to fill that special team spot and also contribute

453
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: on the field when your numbers called, that's great. La

454
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: a day Dan I think will be a favorite of

455
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Titans fans for his personality and enthusiasm. He won me

456
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: over in our first chap. Oh, Danny, I think I

457
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: know the most interesting fact about you. To start, there

458
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: are players who will be in the twenty twenty one

459
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: draft who are actually older than you are. Is amazing.

460
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Let me kind of take the backstory

461
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: and you correct me where I'm wrong. Okay, all right,

462
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: let's do it. You moved to the United States from

463
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: Nigeria when you're eight. At first, they want to put

464
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: you in fifth grade, two grades ahead of where you

465
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: should be, but your mother says, no, we're gonna put

466
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: him in fourth grade. Nahant. They wanted me to let

467
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: me just put it in sixth grade, but my mom

468
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: put me in. So my brothers started. Okay, so I

469
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: was somewhat close. Yeah, yeah, all right. So the bottom

470
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 1: line is you graduated high school and you're sixteen years old. Yeah,

471
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: you're a soccer player, but eventually you became a football

472
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: player somewhere in there. When did you start playing football?

473
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: When you're thirteen or fourteen? Yeah? When I was about yeah, thirteen,

474
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: when I was starting. That's when I started playing football

475
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: when I because I like I said, I got fat

476
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: when I came into the States, so like at some

477
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: point in time to transition and I just couldn't play

478
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: soccer like that anymore. So coaches came and started recruiting

479
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: me and calling my mom, and eventually my uncle got

480
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: into cave in and finally got to go out there

481
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: and get them playing football. You leave Houston George Bush

482
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: High School when you're sixteen, you go to Toledo. Yes, uh,

483
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: your red shirt, and then you play three years for

484
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: the Rockets. In twenty seventeen, you blow up twenty tackles

485
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: for loss eight and a half sacks. You decide to

486
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: go pro because you already have your degree at age

487
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: twenty and what you get your degree in double major

488
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: and marketing and sales. Wow, that's impressive. And you do

489
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: that because you want to help your mom out because

490
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: she's always worked hard, and you've got a brother who

491
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: did undergrad at Columbia and grad school at Yale. Yes, sir, yes,

492
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: how are you about to go to mescho in a

493
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: little bit? So? Then you're not drafted. You signed with

494
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers. You're on your way to becoming their training

495
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: camp standout. In twenty eighteen, your sacking quarterbacks left and right.

496
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: You heard a hamstring? Yes, sadly? All right? So they

497
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: put you on IR They bring you out in December,

498
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: you play in one game and then the last two

499
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: years you've played a ton of football. You've played thirty

500
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: two games, and you've excelled on special teams. And yet

501
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: you're still just twenty three years old. Yes, so here's

502
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: my question. It feels like you're a stock that's still

503
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: going up. Do I have it right? I would agree

504
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: with that. I would have to agree with that. Who

505
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: are you? Who is Ola A Danny as a player

506
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: that Titans fans need to know? What are you going

507
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: to add? Man? What do I start? Ola Danny is

508
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: a guy that brings a lot of energy, brings a

509
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: lot of energy on and off the shire. You know,

510
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm a song guy, but I'm also a guy that's

511
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: ready to wind, also got ready to get better, very

512
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: aggressive guy. And you know, a guy that's ready to

513
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: contribute and add to the Titan nation. Man, it's time

514
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: to tighten up there you go? All right, So let's

515
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: talk about why you love special teams so much, because

516
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: that's what you've been able to do mostly so far

517
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: in your NFL career with the Steelers. What is it

518
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: about playing teams that get you going? Man? Special teams? Man,

519
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: It changes the game, It changes the aspect of the game,

520
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, depending on ready the opera starts and show.

521
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: You know, and you can contribute. You know, you can turnovers,

522
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: got touchdowns, you know you can do everything on special

523
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Tom So you know why not? You know in same

524
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: energy towards that I can do these things. And you're

525
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: an aggressive dude. When you found football, you found hitting

526
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: people was really a lot of fun, didn't you As

527
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: they chobbed me a tight end, But I ain't like

528
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: that chobbed me an old line, no, sir, So I

529
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: love it. Talk to me about your skills at outside

530
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: linebacker because you're you're kind of the unpolished gym. You're

531
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you're sort of typical of what the Steelers have done

532
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: over the years. They found all these guys who are

533
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: six feet six one six two two hundred and fifty

534
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: pounds power players, maybe not built like the typical outside backers,

535
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: but guys to find a way to get to the quarterback.

536
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: What's your game like rushing the passer? My game you

537
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: know is au see different, you know, you know, I

538
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: don't have the same length as somebody else or you know,

539
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: like a six or five guy, So I have to

540
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: have a different from my game ago and I feel

541
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: I have a quickness to my game. You know, I

542
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: have the versatility to speed to power at any point

543
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: in time, you know. So I still have the power game.

544
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: You know. I bring a lot of that aspect too.

545
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: And I have to actually playing inside linebacker as well.

546
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I could move a line, I could do a lot

547
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: of things. So you know, I still because I have

548
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: the same body that an insult linebacker could have. You know.

549
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of versatility in my game. Why

550
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: the Titans? Why were the Titans the right choice? Man?

551
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: It was a great fit. It was a great, great

552
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: fit for me. Um. You know, the same kind of

553
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: scheme that I came from Coach very brill play the linebacker.

554
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: He knows the game, you know, he played it at

555
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: the top of the level. Um. And that's why I'm

556
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: trying to get to you know what I'm saying, Why

557
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 1: not come on from a coach like that, you know,

558
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: why not studying and also having a guy like bug

559
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Over and you know that's my dog, you know, he

560
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: came from the same place. You know. We learned together,

561
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, and he's my og, you know, and it'd

562
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: be great to keep learning something, myag. What has bud

563
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: dupre meant to you as a football player and as

564
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: a person, it meant a lot. Even when I came

565
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: to the league, I stayed in the same neighborhood, but

566
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: stay and he was probably five houses off from each other.

567
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: That's how close, you know, when I came to the league.

568
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: Has just showed me the ropes. You know. He also

569
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: had difficulties when he came to the league's rookie, you know,

570
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: and he had the same he had the same mentality

571
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: coming in and he just taught me to the game

572
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: and just taught me how to get myself to the

573
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: pro level. And you know, I'm just being able to

574
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: learn from Loco. Lockers is right by you, you know.

575
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: So every day I would have conversation. It was just

576
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: so close. And we just went on a ship together

577
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: for his birthday, you know. So it's like, you know,

578
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: it's just read to be with him, and we talked

579
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: about this. I was like, bro, wherever you're going on go,

580
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So and it's just It's

581
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: great to see it actually come through. I'm just ready

582
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: to go. Seems to me like old our day is

583
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: in a hurt. You're in a hurry graduate high school.

584
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: You're in a hurry to graduate college. You're in a

585
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: hurry to go hit the quarterback. You're in a hurry

586
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: to go down on kickoff coverage or punt coverage and

587
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: take somebody out. You're a dude in a hurry, for sure.

588
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: I ain't got time to wait, but I got I

589
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: gotta take you on my family. I'm gonna take him

590
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: my mom, and I think that time to now. He

591
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: won't be twenty four years old until September the twelfth. Wow. Young, well,

592
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: but I mean he going into his fourth year. As

593
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: we said in the interview, there are players in this

594
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: draft upcoming who are older than Ola Dainty. How about that? Wow?

595
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Does that make your head go? Does? Now you're gonna

596
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: call him Ola? I've had people reach out to me

597
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: about this. He calls himself old okay, because his given

598
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: name is Ola sum Kanmi A dainty. Yeah, you're gonna

599
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: call him, which is great. That's what he's a great

600
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: footlos what he goes with. There we go, just go Shorter.

601
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: I might love his enthusiasm. Love is motor. I love

602
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: the excitement that he has about everything. And he is

603
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: so excited to get a chance to come to Nashville.

604
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: And you heard the part about how close he is

605
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: with bud Dupree. In essence, it sounds like he followed

606
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: bud Dupree here. He wanted to continue to be with

607
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: him and build that relationship. But because of that age,

608
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: I mean, what if they catch lightning in a bottle.

609
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: What if he keeps learning how to rush the passer

610
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and and and becomes a third down threat and becomes

611
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: more of a rotational player because he's really at a

612
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: Rooks age right now. He hasn't been playing football ten years, right.

613
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, the story is simple. I mean Emmanuel Ogba,

614
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: who was another part of the Nigerian community in Houston,

615
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: was his great influence and he decided, I'll give up

616
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: soccer because I want to try football. That and as

617
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: he said, he got fat when he moved to him

618
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: his description not mine, but he said that's what That's

619
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: what ended soccer for him is he got heavy and Mike,

620
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the draft, there are stories

621
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: about draftees that are similar to this from another country,

622
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: thought they were going to be soccer superstars, because let's

623
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: face it, soccer is what rules the world. Football is

624
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: what rules North America. And they come here and you

625
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: hear these stories about well, they asked me, hey, same

626
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: kind of story. Hey, you're you're fast, you ought to

627
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: try out for football. Next thing you know, they're rushing

628
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: the passer and sacking the quarterback on the first couple

629
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: of play, and it's like, oh, this might be fun. Well,

630
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: and I mean, there have been so many questions about

631
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: so many guys over the years, and they've been taken

632
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: based on athleticism, and some of them just you know,

633
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: fall off the face of the earth and never make it.

634
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: And then some of them accelerate and end up being

635
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: much better pros than you ever thought they could be,

636
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: and end up with a little bit of a different

637
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: skill set than your typical football player, whatever that is.

638
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: You know, guys who have been soccer players or who

639
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: really excelled in basketball. It's fun to see guys who

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: thought they were going to play other sports and then

641
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: come over to football because there's always something a little

642
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: bit different about their mechanics and the way that they

643
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: do things just because their bodies are used to doing

644
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: something different. So I love it when you get guys

645
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: who think they're going to play other sports. And I

646
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: appreciate someone who says that he moved here and got

647
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: fat because he doesn't even know what's about to happen

648
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: to him in Tennessee. Like when you moved to Tennessee

649
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: from a different place, you want to talk about getting fat.

650
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Food here is good, That's what either he said. There

651
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: were places that he was dying to eat, and I

652
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: was very impressed with that as well. Part of those

653
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: guys though, when you think about it, I mean, so

654
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: he had one great year at Toledo that was it

655
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: goes to Combine runs four eight three with a bad hamstring.

656
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: So his arms are less than thirty two inches long

657
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: because he's just six one. So they're saying, you're gonna

658
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: rush the passer. Your arms are not long enough to

659
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: get away from tackles from guys blocking you on the

660
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: outside sixty eight. You're not long, you're not that fast,

661
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: you're undrafted. Well, but then they get you in like

662
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: the Steelers did. And the Steelers are famous for finding

663
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: these guys. And the guy's got a motor. That guy's

664
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: getting worked with for hours at a time. When he's

665
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: at Toledo, the Rockets are trying to win a mac game.

666
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Now they're trying to develop players. But with the twenty

667
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: hour rule and with what you can do in the offseason,

668
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have time to work with somebody

669
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: over and over. You get to a place like Pittsburgh

670
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: where they have I mean, they're they're almost like botanists.

671
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: How they've grown these guys over the years that you've

672
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: said that guy doesn't fit physically, and yet they're in

673
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: the weight room, they're doing New Christian, they're working on explosion,

674
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: they're doing film study, they're doing all kinds of things

675
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: with the mechanics. You know, it's like they say that

676
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: what's the term he did something like it was his job. Yeah,

677
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, well, all of a sudden, you go from

678
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: seventeen hours a week and go into class. And this

679
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: is a guy who got his degree in four years,

680
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: was very serious about school, graduated at age twenty. Now

681
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: the only thing you gotta do is play football, and

682
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: some of those guys get better for that reason. And

683
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: you're working with a guy like Mike Vrabel, who his

684
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: thing is coaching. That's what he does. He will work

685
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: with you one on one, over and over and over again.

686
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: We've seen it before. He puts in the time to

687
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: teach guys the correct way to do things and make

688
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: sure that their technique and their football knowledge is impeccable.

689
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Do you think Rhet Bryan to swing? Just another way

690
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: that ty Sam Brilow was resigned to compete with Kendall

691
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: Lamb right tackle? Is that your bat on March the

692
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: twenty fifth. I won't hold you to it on April

693
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: twenty right now, right? You know, Honestly, I think he's

694
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: there as as depth swing, but certainly a battle could

695
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: emerge in that. I mean, I you know, and I

696
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: thought he did a very good, very serviceable job last

697
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: year when he had to come in for taitle to one.

698
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: But I still think he may be the swing guy.

699
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be interested to see what John Robinson does next.

700
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: What we've seen him do this week is go out

701
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: with Mike Vrabel to look at ball players. He has

702
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: been spotted on the road Alabama Pro Day, all over

703
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: the place, ye South Carolina Pro Day. I think he

704
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: was at Tennessee's Pro Day, and there's some fine players

705
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: in many of those places. Well in the SEC, I mean,

706
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: come on, yep, I mean, let's let's be honest. My

707
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: wish at twenty two with my cornerback at twenty two

708
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: on March twenty fifth game is Jay z Horn. But

709
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: with the numbers I saw him post, don't think that's

710
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Two oh five? He ran what something really good?

711
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: Didn't he? Oh yeah? And had a forty one inch

712
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: vertical lead Joe Horne's son forty one inch vertical It's crazy. Yeah,

713
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: and he hasn't played his best football yet. Had an

714
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: eleven one broad jump. Yeah. He's a crazy good athlete.

715
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: And the only guy who's more impressive than that is

716
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Patrick Certan, who at Alabama's pro day. He's another corner

717
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: and his dad was another great player, and he's just

718
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: gone off too. He may be a top ten pick now,

719
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And he's a legit six two sir tan

720
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: is and had two oh eight what he came in

721
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: and had a thirty and had a thirty nine inch

722
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: vertical leap and about the same broad jump as Jay

723
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: z Horn ran under four or five. He ran four

724
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: four six. I think some people had him at like

725
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: four four two, and he's big. He's played the what

726
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: they call the star position inside, he's played outside. He's physical,

727
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: he likes to tackle. He's the first corner taken. And

728
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: I think you're right, he's a top ten pick. What

729
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: do you think life is like when you can jump

730
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: that high? I think of all the things you could

731
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: do if you could jump that high. Mike's looking at

732
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: me with a blank stare, but I'm really considering, like

733
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: all the things you can do if you can jump

734
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: that high. There are no high shelves anymore. You just

735
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: reach up there and get it. But if you're six two,

736
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, how much do you have to get it

737
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: on the high shelf? I mean I would like to

738
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: have that problem. Yeah, me too. I just I don't jump,

739
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: so people who really can jump, I mean, that's crazy,

740
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: just fascinating. Rondell Moore, the wide receiver for five to

741
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: seven from Purdue, had a forty two and a half

742
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: inch vertical and he had done that before and they're like, oh, well,

743
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: that's you know, made up or something, and then he

744
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: goes it produced pro day and does it. That's like

745
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 1: Superman stuff. There's a Day three receiver from Illinois, Josh

746
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I Matter Baybay, who had his projects, who went back

747
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: to college this year, right, go to play for his

748
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: fourth school. And Josh had a forty six and a

749
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: half inch vertical at his pro day in Champagne the

750
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: other day. Yeah, Matta Baybay is a crazy athlete. And

751
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: his brother, who I believe is a tight end. That's right,

752
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: It is also a crazy athlete. That's wild. My verticals

753
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: like two. Well, it's not really required in your job,

754
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: thank god. Yes, what is required in your job is

755
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: to say something nice about Farm Bureau Health Plans. When

756
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: it comes to your healthcare coverage, you should be the

757
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: one to make the call. So call Farm Bureau Health Plans.

758
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. So

759
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: this is the week that was to this point through

760
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: March the twenty fifth, And as sure as we record

761
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: this right now, something major will happen to night or

762
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow or John Robinson just keeps on rolling. Maybe the

763
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: most interesting offseason we have ever seen in the six

764
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: years under John Robinson. I thought the first was the

765
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: most interesting, and for the extent of it to this point,

766
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: it still is, but this one might top it. Just

767
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: because there's so many moving pieces and parts, and the

768
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: way the cap retraction was a catalyst in that shop. Well,

769
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: look at the guys who are still out there. It's crazy.

770
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of really good ball

771
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: players still out there and teams don't have money to

772
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: sign them. Right. What's so interesting to me is a

773
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: week ago, like one week ago, Mike, you and I

774
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: looked at each other and said, there will be a

775
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: wave and then it'll be done. We won't see the

776
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: second wave. Second wave came quick. It was the very

777
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: next week. So going forward, do we see a plateau?

778
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: I feel like if we say it, I mean it's

779
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: something crazy I'll happen. Yeah. I think you're right. I

780
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: think we do because I just don't see enough money

781
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 1: in the market to make numerous signings apparent unless they're

782
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: a bunch more guys cut, right, And if they're a

783
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: bunch more guys cut, then you know it could all change.

784
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: But that's the way money is going to go back

785
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: into the market. And I think teams are with five

786
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: weeks ago until the draft, teams are making a more

787
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: detailed evaluation at this point of the draft because they're

788
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty nine picks, and if you can

789
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: find a second round guard who can start for you,

790
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: and I think they're what maybe a half dozen yes

791
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: that you could take on day one or especially on

792
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: day two, there's more. Elijah vera Tucker from USC to

793
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: be the top off the board and probably the only

794
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: one in the first round in terms of god unless

795
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: you consider Landon Dickerson as a guard, and somebody might

796
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: take him right at the end of the first round.

797
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: But I mean minors from Wisconsin, Whitewater, Yes, Trey Smith

798
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: and Deontay Brown who showed up at his pro day

799
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: at three forty four down twenty pounds. I mean, there's

800
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: several of these guys who you're like, okay, and some

801
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: of the tackles will become guards too. We're probably not

802
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: the experts in that area. Dave McGinnis could probably tell

803
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: us more about that. But so if you can draft

804
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: a guard, you know, one of the first two days

805
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: and just plug him in from the first moment, then

806
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: do more veterans become available at that point outside one

807
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: position outside of the obvious the quarterbacks, the edge rushers,

808
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: the corners, those things. I think it may set up

809
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to be one of the more interesting NFL drafts because

810
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: of what the pandemic has dealt everyone. No combine for

811
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: the first time in thirty sixty years or whatever. So

812
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: you're relying heavily on pro days, You're relying heavily in

813
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: some cases on twenty nineteen film of guys. You're going

814
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: back and looking through notebooks from two years ago. Almost.

815
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy to think about that. So you

816
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: know in the Hope Springs Eternal every year type of thing,

817
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: like it's your job. Yeah, but I mean it's like, well,

818
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 1: we could find this diamond the rough. You really could

819
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: this time because of all these things that are a

820
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: byproduct of the pandemic. The difference, though, is the on

821
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: campus visits. Yes, it's such a big factor because if

822
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: you're good at your job, which a lot of these

823
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: scouts are, and John Robinson was a really good scout

824
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: before he went into the personnel office. You walk in

825
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: a building and I saw this when I covered college.

826
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys walk in and what do

827
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: they do. They go talk to secretary. They know the custodian,

828
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: they know the former player who works in quote unquote

829
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: player development, they know the guy who runs the film

830
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: room who lets them in there to watch tape. And

831
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: what do they say? They say, Hey, Freddie, what is

832
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: Smith here really like? Tell me about tell me about

833
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: Smith and Freddie who works in the film office. He's

834
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: not getting anything from anybody except he likes probably having

835
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: these relationships and maybe they become they have friendships. And

836
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: he says, let me tell you the guys don't like him,

837
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: or let me tell you he's the best guy in

838
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: the world, or let me tell you he's got a

839
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: crazy uncle who's around here all the time. I mean,

840
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: you get, you get behind the scenes from the people,

841
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: because a lot of times the coaches don't even know

842
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: that because they're so busy with what they're so busy

843
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: prepared for a game. I'm not saying they don't know

844
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: their kids, but they don't necessarily know that the guard

845
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: goes to visit the children's hospital absolutely see the kids

846
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: who are ill a couple of weeks, or that somebody

847
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: puts in the extra time, or that somebody does nothing

848
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: and treats treats people. Ply last year, when you didn't

849
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: have the on campus visits, they didn't have the chance

850
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: to go do that. Right, everybody that they dealt with

851
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: was on their best behavior. It was very formal. It

852
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Speaker 1: was a zoom call. Is a set time, a set

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Speaker 1: conversation you can prepare. It's very different. You don't get

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Speaker 1: to go to a guy's high school and kind of

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Speaker 1: route around. You don't get to go and do the

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Speaker 1: in depth research that they would do on some of

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Speaker 1: the peripheral stuff, and that that has got to be

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Speaker 1: on Missouri's football office right, absolutely, absolutely, And the amount

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Speaker 1: of scouts who would come through for pro days and

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Speaker 1: things like that and just stop and chat. That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what it is they want to know about so and so.

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Speaker 1: How does he pick up anything? Yeah, how does this

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Speaker 1: person interact? Like is he really that funny or is it?

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Speaker 1: And it's little things, but they're trying to get a

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Speaker 1: well rounded picture of this person from someone who's just

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Speaker 1: in the midst. Well. In the movie Draft, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that are very unrealistic, stressful movie.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that is realistic is when

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Speaker 1: they're evaluating the quarterback and they want to know why

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Speaker 1: none of his teammates came to his birthday party. Yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: that's realistic. Yep. The stuff about the guy who's the

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Speaker 1: pancake eater and all that stuff that I don't know

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Speaker 1: about any of that and trades they made. Yeah, that's fun,

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Speaker 1: it's fun. But but the thing about why did the

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Speaker 1: teammates not come to the quarterback's birthday party? That's the

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Speaker 1: type of stuff that people want to know. Yep, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the crux of everything. Yeah, what's what was wrong

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Speaker 1: in that situation? Even though it was just hypothetical, But

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Speaker 1: that's the type of thing is like, is there something

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Speaker 1: does he rub guys the wrong way? Will people not

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Speaker 1: follow him? Is he one of those guys if you

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00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: drop the pass, he's going to point a finger at you,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'll at you. You know those things are

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Speaker 1: you're you're looking for every piece of intel you can get,

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Speaker 1: and the on campus visits are a huge part of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because that secretary or that janitor can say, you know,

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Speaker 1: my son was sick a while ago, and you know

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Speaker 1: he came to visit us in the hospitals. Right, You'll

889
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Speaker 1: never believe this, but he brought he brought me flowers

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Speaker 1: he'd picked out on the campus there because he knew

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Speaker 1: it was secretary's day, right, Right, You're looking for culture fits,

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00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: not just what he does on the football. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at threads to potentially pull. What's something You're like, whoh

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Speaker 1: is that a good thing? And maybe maybe that explains

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Speaker 1: this or I mean it's a it's a thing. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: things are remarkably harder for Scouts because of the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: You know, Scouts used to ask me questions when I

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Speaker 1: was covering Pro Day. You know, they like, hey, I

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Speaker 1: listen to your radio show. Maybe I've sort of knew

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Speaker 1: him just a little bit. To me, what do you

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00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: know about so and so great to deal with? Or

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Speaker 1: you know he's been hard for us to deal with

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Speaker 1: or really, you know, just information is king in anything

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Speaker 1: that you do. Well. I mean we've hit on a

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Speaker 1: lot of things during this potential program here on the OT. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we really we've been around the block. We went deep.

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Speaker 1: You sure did. For Rhett Bryant, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir from Titans Radio. And for Amy Wells,

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Speaker 1: thank you as always. All Right, I'm Mike Keith and

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Speaker 1: this is the Official Titans Podcast, better known as the

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Speaker 1: oas the team where the Legends go. Everybody knows it's

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