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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: I'm David Zio. You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's

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Speaker 2: Voice News. You got to keep your head on a swivel.

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Speaker 2: You just can't keep up with the news cycle, all

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Speaker 2: these junctions. The economy so incredible, what's happening. We live

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Speaker 2: in an extraordinary time and I have a great show

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Speaker 2: for you today. We're gonna have a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: and we're going to start that fun right now with

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Speaker 2: my special guest today, Vincent Butta aka Vinnie Mack. Apparently,

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Speaker 2: as Damon.

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Speaker 3: Calls you, I don't know where that came from.

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Speaker 2: Cast members live from Studio six B. Vincent, how are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm great, Thanks for having me on. Excited to

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Speaker 4: talk to you. Yep, it's great to be with you now.

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Speaker 2: You're an original LFS six B member since twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 2: right with the show when the show first aired.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we started it together, and we started it on

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Speaker 4: the question what do you think is going to happen

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Speaker 4: with Trump? Do you think he can win? You know,

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Speaker 4: against Hillary Clinton in five hundred million dollars and all.

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Speaker 3: Of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: That's how I literally started on the air with him. Wow,

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Speaker 4: and what a journey, and we nailed it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: the rest is history.

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Speaker 1: But he didn't win.

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Speaker 2: Hillary said he didn't, all right, So there's so much

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Speaker 2: to talk about, right. You just you wake up in

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Speaker 2: the morning. You don't know what to expect. And I

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Speaker 2: think one of Trump's Trump's strengths is that he's unpredictable, right,

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Speaker 2: and he's keeping everybody off balance, right, flooding the zone,

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Speaker 2: as Bannon likes to say. But I wanted to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about the different times in which we've lived

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Speaker 2: because we're both in business. You have an exceptional career

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Speaker 2: executive producer, pride of movies like Pride and Glory and

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Speaker 2: other movies. Tell us about your past a little bit.

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Speaker 3: It's been eclectic.

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Speaker 4: I'm probably a proto call prototypical entrepreneur. So I grew

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Speaker 4: up in sales and then just started my own businesses

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Speaker 4: and they were successful and wound up making money for

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Speaker 4: people who gave me money, and that turned into turnaround

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Speaker 4: projects and that just opened the doors to Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say like I'm an opportunist.

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Speaker 3: In like a negative way, like a front exploit something.

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Speaker 4: I'm an opportunist where I see something that can happen

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Speaker 4: and I want to jump in and make it happen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's been my career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you see the you know, my career

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Speaker 2: in the building and commercial real estate is making people money, right,

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Speaker 2: And there's a time frame to keep there's a critical

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Speaker 2: path and you're dealing with government. I deal with all

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Speaker 2: these towns in the state. You know, you want to

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Speaker 2: kill yourself, you know, and especially in New York here

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Speaker 2: a lot of bureaucracy, but that's what it's all about,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I feel like you know, on Long

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Speaker 2: Island here we're top heavy. We have about one third

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Speaker 2: of the workforce out of the million, forty thousand or

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Speaker 2: so in the workforce work for the government. It's half

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Speaker 2: if you include healthcare and some other industries. So the

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Speaker 2: guy who wakes up in the morning doesn't know where

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Speaker 2: or it's paying forty five thousand, you have health insurance,

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Speaker 2: no guarantees, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, not at all. It's a really challenging time

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Speaker 4: from that standpoint. But I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: opportunity here going forward to Long Island was born and

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Speaker 4: bred on manufacturing, Yes, Northrop all of these things, engineers manufacturing.

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Speaker 2: All ail Eaton. They made the radar navigation for the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the lunar module, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Well we never went to the moon.

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Speaker 3: That was the first MTV thing, I believe. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Then we've got into technology because we had all that talent.

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Speaker 4: So if all the things that Trump's working on come

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Speaker 4: to fruition, you're going to see that come back here.

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Speaker 4: And it has to come back here the things you've

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Speaker 2: And Trump claims to have brought back seven trillion and

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Speaker 2: commitments back to the economy. Here this incredible Hondai plant

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Speaker 2: But Long Island's only four percent manufacturing. You know, we

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Speaker 2: have to somehow get something like that going again or back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it comes back here, but I

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Speaker 2: just wanted to ask you. You know, the eighties were

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Speaker 2: But I grew up without money in my family. But

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Speaker 2: the eighties we did very well. Right, when was the

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Speaker 2: first time that you saw things break for America?

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Speaker 3: You know, I was just getting out of college.

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Speaker 4: Ronald Reagan was the first election I voted first time,

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Speaker 4: and I grew up coming going through high school in

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Speaker 4: the seventies. Jimmy Carter and all that negativity. Miracle on Ice, right,

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Speaker 1: That was probably the start of it. That was like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it was if you're eighteen years old and

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Speaker 4: you saw what was going on in the world, and

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Speaker 4: then the United States beats the Russians. Yeah, that gave

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Speaker 4: us all a jump, and then Reagan wins and prosperity

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Speaker 4: started to come back. So as a as a young

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Speaker 2: Right, So we had the miracle lot Ice with the

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Speaker 1: But the people behind us, that generation, they got Tanya.

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Speaker 4: which is a quite a quite a combination.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't spell that, but I wanted to also

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Speaker 2: ask you, you know, I know, the late nineties right,

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Speaker 2: the economy took off like a rocket ship. The gang

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Speaker 2: Mache hundred and fourth Congress. I was in the chamber

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Speaker 2: was twenty four years old. I watched you economy take

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Speaker 2: off like a rocket ship. Tell us about the late nineties.

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Speaker 2: It was a great time.

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Speaker 3: And also as it hit a two thousand, an awful time.

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Speaker 4: So it was a great time because that's when dot

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Speaker 3: Could there be business here? And everyone bought into the dream.

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Speaker 4: But if you see what's happening in today's markets and

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Speaker 3: This euphoria or hysteria. There's no one between.

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Speaker 4: Right, we're seeing hysteria now, but there was euphoria there.

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Speaker 4: So they overplayed their hand and it was a great

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Speaker 1: So the tech bubble.

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Speaker 2: I was thirty years old. I got crushed. I had

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Speaker 2: is that what's going on now? Are people to reactionary

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Speaker 2: with the swings in the stock market? Because you know,

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Speaker 2: it or not, do we just have to be patient.

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Speaker 4: We have to be patient, and people are way too

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Speaker 4: a reactionary. If you recall back in two thousand, all

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Speaker 4: those dot coms crashed. I was coming in and fixing

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Speaker 4: those companies, and there were tumbleweeds running through San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: But they had the most expensive furniture and the best offices.

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Speaker 4: They spent money like they were going crazy. So I

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Speaker 4: saw this just emotional euphoria and hysteria. And right now

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Speaker 4: there's great long for even when they talk recessional as Bologne.

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Speaker 4: Now there's a great long term prospects here. We're settling

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Speaker 4: the global markets. It's never been done. No, it hasn't

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Speaker 4: never been done, even in the sense of just the

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Speaker 4: basic stuff we're doing with tariffs, Like no one's addressed

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Speaker 4: this the other side of this. Whow This could be

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Speaker 4: the best boom we've ever seen it.

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Speaker 2: It could be, And I think opportunities are there again

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Speaker 2: in Silicon Valley in San Francisco, with the expensive furniture

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Speaker 2: still there. A lot of these guys are going under.

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Speaker 2: But also, you know since nineteen forty seven when we

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Speaker 2: had the General Agreement on Tariffs, and you know, we've

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Speaker 2: been taking advantage of since nineteen forty seven and that

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Speaker 2: turned into the World Trade Organization. I remember. But when

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Speaker 2: George Bush SENI gave George H. W. Bush. You know,

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Speaker 2: they gave gat one hundred and twenty five other countries

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Speaker 2: the same voting power as the United States, But we

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Speaker 2: had the largest economy. Right, We've taken advantage of.

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Speaker 3: Right completely, over and over and over.

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Speaker 4: I mean, but back then, we still were a manufacturing entity,

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Speaker 4: and we handed it, handed it to China. We gave

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Speaker 4: so we had an incentive to do that. But then

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember the wire companies like in New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: where do we come out? I know, Kevin O'Leary says

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Speaker 2: the one hundred and four percent tariffs on China isn't enough,

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Speaker 2: and he does business with China. Yeah, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his and I agree with

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Speaker 4: him completely. And where he's really coming from is on

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Speaker 4: the IP side. And I've had IP stolen Okay. I

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Speaker 4: IP side, So he's like, you have to take dramatic

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Speaker 4: action to level the playing field with China. It's not

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Speaker 4: just about tariffs. It's about all the stuff they steal

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Speaker 4: on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, half the price.

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Speaker 4: This is where he's really coming from. So if you

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Speaker 4: want them to behave four hundred percent, yeah, they might behave.

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Speaker 2: Before that, it was the copyright problems with China, right

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Speaker 2: they don't. So we have about a minute left. Tell

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Speaker 2: us that did you do better under the first term

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Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah, not even close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you see money freeing up? I'm seeing action

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Speaker 2: didn't see for the four years prior.

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Speaker 4: It's bubbling up now again. I'm seeing that. But during

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Speaker 4: during Biden it did slow down, but during Trump it

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Speaker 4: was amazing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, May second, you're gonna have the live premiere of

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Speaker 2: Live from Studio six B at the America First Warehouse.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give a shout out to Jodah Box.

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Speaker 3: Yoda Box is the best man. I love that guy.

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Speaker 4: It's a great venue and we have with a live

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Speaker 4: studio audience there on Fridays starting May second.

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Speaker 2: Very exciting stuff, Vincent, butda aka Vinnie Mack. It's great

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Speaker 2: to meet you. I just met you recently, so I'm

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Speaker 2: really glad we caught.

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Speaker 1: Ve got the bathroom key back.

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Speaker 2: I took the bathroom key in the office here at

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Speaker 2: the rap family. So I'm here in New York, but

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Speaker 7: Welcome, Michael, always your bridge, You're with you, David. There's

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Speaker 7: For cops both? First of all, they've been on hinge

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So this also goes further. It means a police

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Speaker 7: Right, there's no question to see what you're doing as

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Speaker 7: Not worth it? So I'm either going to not do anything,

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Speaker 2: Well, how about this perspective? You know, I feel like

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Speaker 1: Right, don't get out of your car.

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Speaker 2: You know all this stuff and now you know you

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Speaker 7: You know, you're exactly right. And one of the things

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Speaker 7: We trust you, the criminal more. We're going to protect

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're exactly right. Two other bills. One

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Speaker 7: When do you think a parole board member is going

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Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong. There are going to be some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if they even go to prison, you know, Rykers

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Speaker 7: st USA dot org. Get your cherity dot org. They

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Speaker 7: can make sure these officers know how much we care

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Speaker 7: about them by making sure that they have the necessary protection,

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Speaker 7: doing it a dollar, doing anything you can. Here's the

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Speaker 7: main goal behind the donation. But I want American officers

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Speaker 7: to know that there are millions, tens of millions of

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Speaker 7: people across this country. They stand with him that are

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Speaker 7: ready to support to and to make sure we tell

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Speaker 7: them how much of a great job they do and

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Speaker 7: we thank you for their service.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's well said. Thank you, Michael. We'll have

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Speaker 2: you back because this is stuff is all unhinged. We

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Speaker 2: don't want criminals out on the streets and we want

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Speaker 2: cops to be able to do their jobs at least.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, God, blessure you go, bless America. Keep up

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Speaker 7: the good work. You're making a difference.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael. It means a lot. We come back.

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Speaker 2: We got more great guests for you. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Great show ahead. We always love seeing Maria from switch

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Speaker 2: to USA.

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Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 8: I am doing very well.

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Speaker 10: I am so pumped that we are here in long Island.

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Speaker 11: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great and I see you everywhere. I saw

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Speaker 2: you in Schnecksville, Pennsylvania, Wildwood, New Jersey. Is there anywhere

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Speaker 2: you don't go?

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Speaker 11: There is nowhere we don't go. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: You've been a supporter of Real America's voice breaking point

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Speaker 2: for some time. Now tell us about Switch to USA.

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Speaker 10: Well, Switch to USA is the mom and pop American manufacturer,

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Speaker 10: and we are the parallel economy for all of your essentials.

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Speaker 10: And you never know when you might need another supply chain.

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Speaker 2: Wink wink so well made on American soil by American

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Speaker 2: factory workers.

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Speaker 8: Aimen to that.

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Speaker 10: We have to rebuild our economy and we are doing it.

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Speaker 2: Where can our viewers find you?

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Speaker 10: Please come to switch the number two USA dot com.

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Speaker 2: Switch to USA dot com. We love Maria, so great

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Speaker 2: to see you.

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Speaker 11: Thank you so much. David, we love you too. Thank

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Speaker 11: you everyone.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you Maria.

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Speaker 5: We all want to make a difference in our country

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Speaker 5: and make change, but we don't all have the ability

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Speaker 5: to do so. A lot of people are busy. They

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Speaker 5: can't join school boards, they can't get on borough council,

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Speaker 5: but they can change where they shop. And it's just shopping.

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Speaker 11: It's that simple.

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Speaker 10: We're gonna link arms and we're going to shop right

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Speaker 10: here at this American factory. They make the products and

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Speaker 10: they're all natural and they're good for us, and they're affordable.

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Speaker 10: Everything's made here. You're in the USA.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: You're watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News. You know,

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Speaker 2: the third IRS commissioner stepped down since Trump took office.

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Speaker 2: The last one stepped down, Doug O'Donnell, because they didn't

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Speaker 2: want to share information I guess tax information about illegals

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Speaker 2: to the Department of Homeland Security, and now the new one,

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Speaker 2: Melanie Krauss, also quit the other day over the illegal

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Speaker 2: alien issue and sharing data with DHS. AM I in

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Speaker 2: a different or alternate universe somewhere why I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Why would the IRS be opposed to sharing information about

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Speaker 2: legal aliens. They're not supposed to be here and if

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Speaker 2: they're paying taxes, they were probably assigned their Social Security

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Speaker 2: number under Biden when they cross the border illegally, because

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Speaker 2: that's what's been going on, or they got fake solid

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Speaker 2: security numbers and they're someone else. So this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: You know, I care about my country. I care about

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Speaker 2: my tax dollars. I care about my kids going forward

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Speaker 2: and the debt, and I care that we pay two

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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars a year take out of illegals just

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Speaker 2: in the safety net of social services. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you include social security and all the other stuff,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many trillions of dollars have we spent

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Speaker 2: on illegals over the past four decades, say, outside of

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Speaker 2: the other issues that come into play, you know, like

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Speaker 2: crime in is lives being taken, even if it's won,

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Speaker 2: it shouldn't be here. So anyway, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how all that unfolds. But one problem we

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Speaker 2: have in our society is a lot of children are

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Speaker 2: spending a lot lot of time on their computers and

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Speaker 2: playing video games, violent first person shooter video games. And

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Speaker 2: somebody with a solution to that with us. Right now

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Speaker 2: we have Brent Doucing, the founder and CEO of True Play.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Brent. How are you.

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Speaker 7: Thanks?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great, David.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you. You know, some positive news

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Speaker 2: for a change. You have a product that can be

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Speaker 2: fun for your children, wholesome. Oh my god, just you know,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing wholesome on TV anymore. Even I turn on

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Speaker 2: the Disney channel, I can't even watch it for my grandkids, right,

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Speaker 2: So tell us about what you're going on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: So at True Play, what we're doing is we've built

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Speaker 12: it's live in the App Store and Google Play.

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Speaker 9: You can go to a website.

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Speaker 12: It's a one app with a huge amount of world class,

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Speaker 12: beautiful entertainment content, mostly games, videos, comics, the kids love

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Speaker 12: and everything we do contains a biblical faith based message,

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Speaker 12: you know, David, like you said, things are really bad

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Speaker 12: for our children right now, and unfortunately in our society

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Speaker 12: it's all self inflicted. You know, kids are on screens

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Speaker 12: over fifty hours a week, Anxiety, suicide, depression rates are

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Speaker 12: all time highest per kids. Only thirty one percent of

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Speaker 12: children believe in God. So we're in this situation where

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Speaker 12: things are really bad for children. There's identity crisis, there's

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Speaker 12: sexual content pushed on kids at very young ages, objectable

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Speaker 12: content made by companies like Disney that used to be

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Speaker 12: able to trust. In fact, the Wall Street Journal posted

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Speaker 12: Publici's an article back in October that there's sex.

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Speaker 9: Trafficking and child pornography.

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Speaker 12: Going on on on roadblock, which is in eighty millions,

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Speaker 12: aiming the kids use every day as young as nine

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Speaker 12: years old. We've actually met parents that's happened to our kids.

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Speaker 12: So it's things are bad for our children. And what

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Speaker 12: we're doing at True Play is built. We've built something

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Speaker 12: that families and kids love. That's fun, it's exciting, it

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Speaker 12: tells great stories, but everything has positive and curaging messaging.

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Speaker 9: They're truly based on the Bible.

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Speaker 2: Now what game systems? Can they use it on?

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Speaker 12: Any PC and NAC They can use it right on

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Speaker 12: this phones, tablets, uh, you know, any almost any iOS phone,

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Speaker 12: any any iPad, any most Android devices you can download

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Speaker 12: and get started. You know what we found was, rather

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Speaker 12: than trying to solve for the console, you have a game,

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Speaker 12: a video game machine in your pocket. And if you

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Speaker 12: look at where kids are especially, you know, we reach

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Speaker 12: kids typically in the five.

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Speaker 9: To twelve years old range. They're on phones all the time.

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Speaker 12: I'll give it take something really interesting, David, did you

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Speaker 12: know that ten times more money was spent on video

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Speaker 12: games just on phones and tablets than on movie theater

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Speaker 12: receipts because that's where kids are. You know, kids are,

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Speaker 12: They're all over these devices, so that's where we wanted

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Speaker 12: to be with what the message.

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Speaker 2: What age groups are eligible for this?

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Speaker 9: Well, it's interesting. So we have some children as young

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Speaker 9: as three.

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Speaker 12: We have a lot of kids into five, eight, you know,

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Speaker 12: ten years old, range twelve. Sometimes we even have kids

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Speaker 12: who are like forty and fifty. In other words, we

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Speaker 12: have a lot of parents who tell us they love

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Speaker 12: the games. They get excited about the games, they're you know,

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Speaker 12: fired up by the stories.

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Speaker 9: The stories are told in a really.

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Speaker 12: Really heartfelt way, that with some real good intrigue and drama.

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Speaker 12: So we've had a lot of parents enjoy our storytelling

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, young skulls full of mush as rushing them by

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Speaker 2: used to say, soft tissue. You know, what's the recommended

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Speaker 2: daily allowance of computer or tablet time that you would

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Speaker 2: recommend for a five year old?

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Speaker 9: Say, that's a great question.

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Speaker 12: I would recommend to give a child who's that young,

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Speaker 12: probably not a lot more than thirty minutes of screen time.

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Speaker 12: That's what we do at our house. That's what we've

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Speaker 12: always done with our kids. I think, Look, I understand

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Speaker 12: there's some parents who say, well, my kids sitting on

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Speaker 12: screens at all? Maybe, but that's that's I think it's

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Speaker 12: a really hard thing to do in a world where

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Speaker 12: people are on screens, you know, literally all the time

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Speaker 12: for all kinds of reasons.

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Speaker 9: I think it's not so much about the medium.

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Speaker 12: It's about the message, right, It's about what's on the

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Speaker 12: screen and what are they doing on it and what

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Speaker 12: are they learning?

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Speaker 2: Right, Sure, if they're going to be on it might

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Speaker 2: as well be something like this that's positive influence instead

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Speaker 2: of like, you know, being bullied or you know, some

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Speaker 2: other nonsense going on and snapchat and all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know. One thing that's really sad to me is,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm in like Chili's or Smoky Bones restaurant

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Speaker 2: or something, and I was at this table next to

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Speaker 2: this table of like eleven people, three sets of parents,

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Speaker 2: and every single one of the kids from each family

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Speaker 2: were on tablets or phones. Nobody was interacting, Nobody was

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Speaker 2: talking to each other. But that's a conversation for other days.

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Speaker 2: I didn't let my kids have phones, I know, I'm

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Speaker 2: Archie Bunker until high school, eleventh twelfth grade. They were

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Speaker 2: not allowed on social media at all during school, and

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Speaker 2: I did give in on my fourth child. They were

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Speaker 2: allowed to have a phone in eighth grade and the.

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Speaker 12: Eldest always gets the most, gets the most rope, don't they.

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Speaker 2: But no social media and through right through right through

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Speaker 2: until she went away to college. So you know, I

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Speaker 2: guess this is the battle, right It's a different world

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Speaker 2: right now, and we have to make some out of adaptations.

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Speaker 12: Well, David, I think you are one hundred percent right

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Speaker 12: not to let your kids on social media. Let me

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Speaker 12: for you and for you know parents or grandparents who

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Speaker 12: are listening.

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Speaker 9: Let me give you some stat So, as I.

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Speaker 12: Mentioned before, anxiety, suicide, and depression rates are all time

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Speaker 12: high sper kids. There have been studies that have been

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Speaker 12: done that have shown the amount of time you spent

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Speaker 12: a child spend on social media correlates with depression. So

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Speaker 12: they did a study in the UK, if a child

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Speaker 12: spends five hours a day on social media, forty percent

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Speaker 12: of those girls are clinically depressed forty percent. I mean,

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Speaker 12: you know, you wouldn't give your child, you wouldn't feed them,

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Speaker 12: you know, edible poison. And that's essentially what social media

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Speaker 12: has done to our children and all these anxieties.

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Speaker 9: Suicide brush I to talked about.

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Speaker 12: Exactly the rise of that of that situation exactly mirrors

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Speaker 12: the rise of social media.

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Speaker 2: Folks during.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, go on, I really advocate that what you did,

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Speaker 12: David in your own house is whatever. That's what we've

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Speaker 12: done no social media.

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Speaker 1: I never got a call.

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Speaker 2: You know, somebody's bullying me. I never got a call.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm drunk at a party, Come pick me up.

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Speaker 2: I never got no call. I'm in a jail in Mexico,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, I think it really helped mold

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Speaker 2: and shape our kids to be responsible. But I do understand,

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Speaker 2: you know, these issues, and I know the suicide rate

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Speaker 2: from during COVID went up like forty percent in like

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Speaker 2: young girls in like New Jersey. It was like these

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Speaker 2: big numbers out there, but this is positive. Tell our

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Speaker 2: viewers where can they find this and how can they

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Speaker 2: try it out?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, So you can go to True playgames dot com.

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Speaker 12: You can go to our website. You can also go

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Speaker 12: to the app store or the Google play Store. Just

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Speaker 12: look for True Plays. You see in the bottom Night

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Speaker 12: theater r U P l A Y. It's you know,

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Speaker 12: like I said, it's fantastic. There's people love it. We've

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Speaker 12: got families all over the country and the world using it.

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Speaker 12: There's hundreds of hours of entertainment, games, comics videos that

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Speaker 12: we found not just kids, but a lot of parents

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Speaker 12: enjoy as well. And we hope that it's something that

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Speaker 12: teaches lessons that kids can take with them not just

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Speaker 12: for tomorrow, but for the rest of their lives. You know,

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Speaker 12: as as a Christian, we believe that what you do

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Speaker 12: now affects eternity and especially your faith in God and

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Speaker 12: your understanding of who God is. And we hope that

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Speaker 12: this is something that as people invest and yeah, this

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Speaker 12: is something I want to do for my family and

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Speaker 12: wait for them to be enriched and to grow and

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Speaker 12: hear stories that are relevant and exciting and positive and

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Speaker 12: also a lot of ways that families.

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Speaker 9: Can have fun together. You you're a father, I'm a father.

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Speaker 12: It's not always easy to find things that you and

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Speaker 12: your kids can do together and both enjoy and ye

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Speaker 12: place for something that is.

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Speaker 2: I have four grandchildren and you know, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: more time on the tap let's I see than that

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Speaker 2: previous generation. Very important. Where where's the website? How can

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Speaker 2: they are or where can they download the app?

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Speaker 12: It's true playgames dot com, t r U p l

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Speaker 12: A Y games dot com or you can go to

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Speaker 12: the App Store or the.

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Speaker 9: Google Play Store and look for True Play t r

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Speaker 9: U P l A Y.

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Speaker 12: We've got very high reviews and uh in people say,

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Speaker 12: are listening?

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Speaker 7: Love it?

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Speaker 2: I have a question for you. It's non denominational, yes, sir,

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Speaker 2: And what about other religions? You ever explored yourdeo Christian

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Speaker 2: learning for you know, other Americans and other religions.

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Speaker 9: Here's our perspective. So everything that we do is based

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Speaker 9: on the Bible.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 9: So we've got a game.

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Speaker 12: One of our most popular games is called King Davids Battles. Okay,

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Speaker 12: you know David is someone who's you know, obviously a

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Speaker 12: strong part of the Christian tradition and also you know,

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Speaker 12: respected by other faiths. We've got a game called Stained

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Speaker 12: Glass where you actually walk through.

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Speaker 9: Eve, Noah, Sarah, Moses.

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Speaker 12: So we do Old Testament stories, we do New Testament stories,

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Speaker 12: but we you know, we're people who believe that Jesus

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Speaker 12: is the most important person who ever lived, and is

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Speaker 12: God in the flesh and has a lot to teach

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Speaker 12: all of us.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I apologize. I went to Catholic school and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, yeah, there's the Old testamentor in the

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Speaker 2: New Testament, so it's covered all right, It's been a

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Speaker 2: long day. I want to thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: coming on, everybody. I wanted to thank Brent for coming

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Speaker 2: on and go check out True Play and t R

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Speaker 2: U P l A Y. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 9: Thank you, David. Pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll have you back soon, everybody, We'll be

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Speaker 2: right back with more. I've got Karl Lieberman, she's a psychologist.

725
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the issues that are affecting

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Speaker 2: everybody across the country and how to stay sane in

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Speaker 2: a crazy time. I'm David Zeer. I'm very excited about

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Speaker 2: our energy policy. I know I talk about it a

729
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Speaker 2: lot on the show, but I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be critical.

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Speaker 1: You know, oil is down to.

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Speaker 2: Like sixty dollars a barrel, under sixty I think at

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Speaker 2: fifty six now. I know it's due to volatility and uncertainty,

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Speaker 2: but it's also due to Trump's plans. There is going

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Speaker 2: to be so much energy created here, and there's going

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Speaker 2: to be a big demand for cheap energy from foreign nations.

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Speaker 2: Keep your eye on that, because even China, who exports,

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Speaker 2: you know, or imports gas, Asia is going to be

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Speaker 2: buying a lot of natural gas from the United States

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Speaker 2: other countries. We got Saudi Arabia cooperating a little bit

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Speaker 2: by increasing production and the market I think for Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is going to loosen up. You're paying less at

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Speaker 2: the store right now for a lot of things. I've

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Speaker 2: been noticing that. I've been talking about that for a

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Speaker 2: couple of months. I know it's still crazy. I know

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Speaker 2: the American family can't go another day like this. I

747
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Speaker 2: know it's nuts. But as JK. C. Trucking said, you

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Speaker 2: know last week, I have Mike Kucharski on a lot

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Speaker 2: that you know diesel will come down, even though it hasn't,

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Speaker 2: it's going to come down, and that translates into the

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Speaker 2: couches you buy and the food you buy because of

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Speaker 2: the seventy percent of America's goods are transported by trucks,

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Speaker 2: So keep an eye on that. But I want to

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Speaker 2: welcome to the show right now doctor Carol Lieberman, America

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Speaker 2: psychiatrist that she's the host of Doctor Carol's Couch on

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Speaker 2: Voice America, the terrorist therapist and author. Welcome back, Carol,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, my pleasure. Great to see you again. I

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Speaker 2: know we've had some great conversations over the last few years.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your new book.

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Speaker 8: Well, the book that I'm most passionate about is the

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Speaker 8: one that's on the screen Lions and Tigers and Terrorists,

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Speaker 8: Oh My, How to Protect your Child's and a Time

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Speaker 8: of Terror. The first half is for grown ups, how

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Speaker 8: to talk to kids, how to recognize when they're having

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Speaker 8: emotions that are serious from hearing on the television and

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Speaker 8: so on about terror attacks, even if they're not happening

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Speaker 8: on your doorstep. And the second half is a picture

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Speaker 8: book for kids all about terrorism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably very healthy. What age groups is it targeting?

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Speaker 8: It's really it's for five and up because I say

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Speaker 8: five because that's when they go to school and that's

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Speaker 8: when they start hearing all these things that are you know, misinformation.

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Speaker 8: So so you know, anybody five to fifteen something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it affects young people.

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Speaker 2: I mean I interviewed the Babis family, you know with

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Speaker 2: the five and the you know, a two year old

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Speaker 2: are dead. They were kidnapped at nine months and four

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Speaker 2: years old. This can affect anybody.

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Speaker 8: Well, I started becoming the terrorist therapist after nine to

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Speaker 8: eleven because I'm born in brand New Yorker, and I

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Speaker 8: have been helping people since then in America, but also

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Speaker 8: in London and in Paris and Manchester, and I've been

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Speaker 8: helping people in Israel, you know by zoom you know,

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Speaker 8: of course after October seventh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, well that's it's great. I'm sure you're giving

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Speaker 2: some comfort to people to get on with their lives.

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Speaker 2: We have the twenty fifth anniversary of nine to eleven

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Speaker 2: next year. People don't understand how devastating it was to

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Speaker 2: New York. Seventy thousand first responders have cancer and breathing

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Speaker 2: problems and other things right now, and over seven thousand

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Speaker 2: are dead just in New York City, including the people

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Speaker 2: perish that day. It was really tragic and long history

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Speaker 2: of terrorism in New York City.

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Speaker 11: So one thing that I just want to say.

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Speaker 8: The reason why I'm you know, I've been so I've

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Speaker 8: been talking about terrorism and trying to help people with

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Speaker 8: it since nine to eleven. But the reason why I'm

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Speaker 8: continuing is because I'm trying to warn people that it

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Speaker 8: is not one and done, and that we really have

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Speaker 8: to wake up to the fact that they are they

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Speaker 8: are in our midst and that they there are going

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Speaker 8: to be more attacks.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I could talk to you for twelve

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Speaker 2: hours about all the attacks, and I follow it very closely,

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Speaker 2: especially the thirty year history of terrorism in New York City.

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Speaker 2: It's been rough. It's been a rough go. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Philadelphia Jewelry really quick before I

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Speaker 2: get into TDS. What's going on in Philly.

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Speaker 11: Yes, that is so interesting.

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Speaker 8: It's just happened a new program in Philadelphia for the

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Speaker 8: Philadelphia courts that they are going to offer jurors after

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Speaker 8: they're done with a case. They're going to offer them

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Speaker 8: free therapy at a university nearby, why Wester University, because

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Speaker 8: of the trauma that they suffer. That some jurors suffer really,

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Speaker 8: you know, especially when it's a case with a lot

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Speaker 8: of a lot of carnage. You know, where there's a

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Speaker 8: lot of either a case where there are a lot

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Speaker 8: of killings or one killing but you know it's very upsetting, or.

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Speaker 11: Child abuse whatever.

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Speaker 8: There are a lot of cases that are school shootings,

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Speaker 8: a lot of cases where it is very traumatic for

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Speaker 8: the psycho, haious trauma for the jury. They sit there

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Speaker 8: for however many weeks and they listen, they see the

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Speaker 8: evidence and they listen to the people, you know, giving testimony,

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Speaker 8: and so it becomes traumatizing to them. Well, and they're

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Speaker 8: going to be free therapy, which I think is great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sure, it makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: And then you've got someone's life's in the balance that

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Speaker 2: you're putting away in prison or sending to the gas chamber.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of it goes both ways. It's probably

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Speaker 2: hard even if the guy's guilty, right, you're taking a life,

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Speaker 2: you know, and there's a lot of probably conflict for

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Speaker 2: people too. So that's great. So okay, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: TDS and MDS must arrangement syndrome, Trump arrangement syndrome. You're

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Speaker 2: trying to get the American Psychiatric Association.

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Speaker 1: To adapt it.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you know, the psyche and the American Psychiatric Association

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Speaker 8: puts out uh dsms. It's diagnostic and statistical manuals about

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Speaker 8: every five years or so, and you know, you have

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Speaker 8: to to get And I was on a committee years

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Speaker 8: ago for ds M three in regard to schizophrenia. And

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Speaker 8: so I was on this committee and we would meet

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Speaker 8: and we would talk about different studies and you know

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Speaker 8: why it was. The idea was whether schizo effective schizophrenia

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Speaker 8: should be its own category or part of manic depressive

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Speaker 8: illness or part of schizophrenia anyhow, So you know, we

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Speaker 8: we you know, talked about it for ages and then

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Speaker 8: then it was it was decided. So so there are

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Speaker 8: ways of getting new diagnoses in and changing diagnoses. For example,

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Speaker 8: there was a diagnosis where people who were gay there

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Speaker 8: was a diagnosis for them, and now it's gender dysphoria disorder.

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Speaker 11: So you know, these things change.

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Speaker 8: So the problem, of course is that the psych many

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Speaker 8: psychiatrists are have TDS, so they wouldn't.

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Speaker 11: Necessarily want to have it in it.

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Speaker 8: But you know this, the DSM is used to help

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Speaker 8: mental health professionals be on the same page when they're

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Speaker 8: talking about different symptoms and different you know, disorders. And

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Speaker 8: it's also for insurance companies because each disorder has a number,

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Speaker 8: and so it helps insurance companies to decide how much

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Speaker 8: they're going to pay for treatment. Of course, you know,

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Speaker 8: really they should be treated, they should be paying for

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Speaker 8: however much the psychiatrist thinks the person needs.

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Speaker 11: But that's a whole other story.

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Speaker 8: So the reason why I want to have trumped arrangement

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Speaker 8: syndrome in there is because the people really need treatment

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Speaker 8: and they're not going to get it if they don't

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Speaker 8: have a code you know in the DS. Well, I

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Speaker 8: mean they could get it, but they're not going to

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Speaker 8: be reimbursed for it unless they have a code. And

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Speaker 8: so this is something that has been you know, it's

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Speaker 8: started when he was president or when he was campaigning

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Speaker 8: to be president the first time.

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Speaker 11: But it's much much worse now, as you know.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget to add MDS the Musk derangement syndrome category

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Speaker 2: in there, you know what. And doctors, I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: a diamond in the rough, You're a breath of fresh air.

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Speaker 2: I mean nine out of ten doctors that are my

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Speaker 2: doctors or that I meet on the planes traveling up

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Speaker 2: and down to Florida and across the country of liberals.

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Speaker 2: But it's worse than that. They hate Trump. And can

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Speaker 2: they diagnose themselves?

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, that's the question.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, when I looked on the American Psychiatric

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Speaker 8: Association website to you know, look into how I can

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Speaker 8: submit this and all that, I hadn't looked at it

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Speaker 8: for years, and it is so scary. There is a

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Speaker 8: DEI this and woke this and you know, all different committees.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it has changed tremendously and not for the better.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know, you know whether it's going to

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Speaker 8: make it in or not, but at least it will

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Speaker 8: get people more aware of it now. I define Trump

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Speaker 8: Arrangement syndrome as an irrational quasi psychotic hatred of anything Trump,

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Speaker 8: resulting in rage and over the top efforts to destroy

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Speaker 8: him and his work. This hatred and rage can spread

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Speaker 8: to people and projects that are closely associated with Trump,

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Speaker 8: such as.

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Speaker 11: Elong Musk and Tesla's and I have.

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Speaker 8: Come up with definitions or descriptions of mild, moderate, and

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Speaker 8: major types of TDS.

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Speaker 11: So you know, this is this is really.

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Speaker 1: But it's not even I'm laughing, but it's not even funny.

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Speaker 2: It's true. It's incredible. People's whole lives revolve around this.

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Speaker 2: It's the psychosis.

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Speaker 8: Yes, well that's the that's the major, the major cons

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Speaker 8: the major I'll tell you what the major.

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Speaker 11: One is and.

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Speaker 8: The the major type. First of all, it has all

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Speaker 8: the criteria that the mild and moderate cases have. In

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Speaker 8: addition quitting one's job or leaving one's family to work

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Speaker 8: full time to stop Trump, leaving the US in protest

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Speaker 8: of Trump and establishing residents in another country, doing something

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Speaker 8: illegal to try to stop Trump, such as bribe a

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Speaker 8: judge to stop one of his executive orders, threatening a

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Speaker 8: major figure in Trump's administration up close and personal, attacking

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Speaker 8: someone's personal tesla, a tesla showroom, or manufacturing facility docs,

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Speaker 8: and Trump's supporters making swatting calls to terrorize prominent Trump supporters,

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Speaker 8: and some examples are Rosie O'Donnell.

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Speaker 11: And Ellen DeGeneres who have moved out.

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Speaker 8: The bishop Marianne Edgar Boudet, however you pronounce her last

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Speaker 8: name Bud, who was horrible after the inauguration.

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Speaker 11: It's just outrageous.

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Speaker 2: Doctor, we're almost out a time. I don't mean to

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Speaker 2: cut you off. I want to have you back and

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Speaker 2: talk about this because this is like a really in

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Speaker 2: depth thing. Tell our viewers again where they can follow

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Speaker 2: you and where can they get more info on what

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Speaker 2: you're doing.

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Speaker 11: Well, you can follow me on Twitter.

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Speaker 8: I rant on Twitter at doctor Carol MD Carol as.

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Speaker 11: You can see with an E.

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Speaker 8: But the website that my favorite website, my most important website,

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Speaker 8: is terroristtherapist dot com. All right, I haven't put the

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Speaker 8: TDS well, I mean I talk about TDS lot, but

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Speaker 8: I haven't put the criteria and all of that online yet.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna follow it closely, and I'm so sorry, but uh,

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Speaker 2: I love, I love what you're doing, doctor Carol Liberman, everybody,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have you back real soon. Sure. Thank thank

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Speaker 2: you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.

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Speaker 2: We got another great show for you next week, and

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Speaker 2: keep watching Real America's Voice

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Speaker 11: No