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Speaker 3: Hi, how are you? Nice to see you?

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Speaker 2: Thank you and so so what about that game?

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Speaker 3: So that was good? It was fun. It's sports, it's entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Were you not entertained? All right? Very good? Very good.

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Speaker 3: That's it. I've completely exhausted everything.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, we are delighted to have this evening. One

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Speaker 2: co captain, defensive back and special teamer CJ.

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Speaker 3: Goodwin. Thank you for coming.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is five or six years in a row that

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Speaker 2: CJ has agreed to come do this show.

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Speaker 3: We always appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And every year every year I say, if they had

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Speaker 2: full time captains, CJ.

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Speaker 3: Goodwin would be one of those captains.

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Speaker 5: Do I not say that every year?

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Speaker 3: And what happened.

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Speaker 2: He's a full time captain there. He is voted by

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Speaker 2: his teammates. And I was going to get to that anyway,

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Speaker 2: but I just think that that's you know, I was

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Speaker 2: for that always. I believe in it, but I thought

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Speaker 2: that coach Schottenheimer put it into words I could relate to.

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Speaker 3: When he said it's I think there is.

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Speaker 2: Some special value in saying I had that see on

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Speaker 3: You're the one who plays. What what did that mean

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Speaker 4: And it meant the world to me honestly, then voted

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Speaker 4: by your peers to be represent the team as a captain,

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Speaker 4: Like I said, it means the world to me. When

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Speaker 4: you know, I wasn't really nervous because I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 4: was it was pretty cool. He was like, you deserve this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well you did deserve it. You earned it. That

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Speaker 2: But you you've earned it through your your play and

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Speaker 2: to tell us how we're supposed to feel when you

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Speaker 5: I don't know how you're supposed to feel. This is

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Speaker 3: This, first time you've ever been in a tie game.

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Speaker 4: My first time I'm doing this. I don't I don't

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Speaker 3: Well what but so what?

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Speaker 2: But you're standing there on the field, you going no overtime,

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Speaker 2: Are you thinking, dang, is this game going to really

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Speaker 4: No, we were thinking we won't get to stop. We

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Speaker 5: It just didn't have it. No way. Then I'll blaming

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Speaker 4: I could have blocked the kit and I didn't, So

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Speaker 6: How much do you kind of appreciate, you know, earlier

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Speaker 4: Getting tested like this early in the season, man, it's

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Speaker 5: We tied the second one.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, so we're looking forward to what's down the

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Speaker 2: There is no better week, I think, to have the

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Speaker 2: We can just start with last night, the two plays

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Speaker 3: This is just me. We're special teams plays.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with Janye Thomas blocking the extra point

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Speaker 3: Field back for two points. How aware are you because

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Speaker 3: it never happens. You always say that.

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Speaker 2: I have to remind myself every time an extra point

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Speaker 2: People forget it? Do you when he scooped that up?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, We knew he was gonna block one

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Speaker 5: Uh at that time it was a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: And I forgot that he blocked that one too.

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Speaker 5: So so.

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Speaker 3: Let's start with him. What's what makes him so good

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Speaker 4: He listens, he listens, he learns, he's film studies. But

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Speaker 5: He does it very well.

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Speaker 4: He's so explosive, and he has he's intentional about really

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Speaker 6: Wanya is also a guy. That's when you have a deep,

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Speaker 4: But preach anything to me, that's what he does. If anything,

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Speaker 4: I'm learning from these guys. These guys want to play

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Speaker 4: I said, he went in the game yesterday and played

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Speaker 4: But he's just a great football player. They can't take anything.

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Speaker 2: Way from me, all right, we'll come back to Yanye,

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Speaker 2: but I want to finish that.

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Speaker 3: That was a big play. It kind of gave the

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Speaker 5: I gave us a lot of life. Yeah, absolutely did.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it did as much as the

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Speaker 2: tackle that Maris Leafou made on poor mister Golden from

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Speaker 2: uh that that seemed to me to be like a

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Speaker 2: CJ just made just thinking about that.

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Speaker 3: That was a big play.

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Speaker 5: I was right there. I was.

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Speaker 4: It was the only I can only make an ugly

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Speaker 4: That was an ugly hit. Yeah, and that's what Marris does.

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Speaker 4: May has been hitting people like that all since he's

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Speaker 5: I guess h took you out after that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not return anymore punts.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't either, Yeah, which, by the way, if I'm

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Speaker 2: to me today. The Packers also changed their blocking assignments

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Speaker 3: They changed personnel, Yes, yeah, yeah they did.

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Speaker 4: They moved, they got the tight end out and they

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Speaker 5: Something like that.

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Speaker 5: I think it was. I think it was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was talking a little message and we could

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Speaker 3: So what did Marits tackle do?

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Speaker 2: And how does a hit like that infuse the rest

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Speaker 4: Special Team's job is to ignite the whole team. When

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Speaker 4: we make plays, the team kind of follows us. So

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Speaker 4: yesterday was a good opportunity for us to kind of

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Speaker 4: like a slapping the face to us, because like, we

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Speaker 4: bring the juice, you know, and when Maris make that tackle,

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Speaker 5: Everybody went crazy. That's when every black the plus started going.

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Speaker 5: So uh it was. It was great to be a

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Speaker 4: Like I said, we could only do make an ugly face.

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Speaker 5: So good play.

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Speaker 6: When you see the way that Maris plays, like you

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Speaker 6: And obviously it's like, okay, this man and literally nuts

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Speaker 4: It's crazy because Marris is one of the most soft

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Speaker 5: He plays football like a rap artist. Yeah, and now

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Speaker 4: He's a he's a great football player, and he's a

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Speaker 5: Out of what he does. So even like with the penalty, like,

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'd rather say Wolden sickle and that marriage

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Speaker 2: But as he matures he will be a little more aware,

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Speaker 5: Of course, but it happens.

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Speaker 2: But right now, you'll take it if you get the

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Speaker 2: since uh, since we brought up Juan Ye. I talked

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Speaker 2: mean he he acts like and now CJ is grinning

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Speaker 3: But but he's got a swagger about him, like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: And so Malie Hooker is probably going to miss a

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Speaker 4: How he's always been ready? Like I said, he's a

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Speaker 5: You know when you're when you're a good.

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Speaker 5: You're confident.

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Speaker 4: And one Ya is going to do great. We look

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Speaker 4: forward to having one year out there. Actually he flies around.

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Speaker 6: Where is he taken the biggest jump in your eyes

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Speaker 4: This is commander of the field. He's the ppe on

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Speaker 5: You can hear him.

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Speaker 4: He even breaks down the huddle. He's just he's a

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Speaker 2: He wants the ball, doesn't it when he's a personal protector,

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Speaker 2: he wants the ball.

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Speaker 3: To come to him.

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, Yeah, he wants to. He wants to. He

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know that's the swagger of body and I

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Speaker 4: love that about him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, why not, right, snap it to me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we'll run for that first down and knock people

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, yeah, he came in with that. All right,

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Speaker 3: that's something to watch. But we're gonna talk to C. J.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. I'm Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about special teams, shall we.

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Speaker 2: They're in more blocked kicks and kicks of consequence in

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Speaker 2: I ever run. You could go a year, a whole

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Speaker 2: season without seeing three game deciding field goal blocks and returns,

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Speaker 2: and it seems like we got one or two every

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Speaker 3: Okay, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: That's the script man, that's the yeah you got well,

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Speaker 2: we've all seen. We've all seen the table reads and

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now I have no I have no idea. It

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Speaker 4: must be, like I said, film studies.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I don't. I honestly don't know.

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Speaker 4: If people relaxing or people getting off the ball asters,

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Speaker 4: It's there's a lot of things that go into blocking

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Speaker 4: want to. And I think that's that's what's going up

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Speaker 4: this year is the one to us. What coach Nick

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Speaker 4: if you keep going, keep going, keep going, eventually.

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Speaker 5: You're going to get one.

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Speaker 2: You watch us, I'm sorry, you watch special teams tape,

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Speaker 2: certainly of the team you're playing, but you watch, you

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Speaker 2: watch stuff every every week. I talked to Rich Pasacia

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Speaker 2: yesterday you were with Rich. Weren't you just just missed him?

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Speaker 2: Heve's former Cowboys special teams coach, now with the Packers.

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Speaker 3: He was with the raiders. He's I mean, he just

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Speaker 2: He wonders if the if sometimes the h are some

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Speaker 3: Who are who are now doing the protecting?

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Speaker 2: Then he for instance, he talked about when he was here, uh,

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Speaker 2: And do you notice any technique thing as you watch tape?

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Speaker 3: Do you see teams either.

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Speaker 2: Trying or paying attention to technique things in a different

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Speaker 4: I can't say I notice anything different that goes for

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Speaker 5: Obviously that's huge.

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Speaker 4: But just in the just throughout the game, like yesterday

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Speaker 4: we did the lost by three points, you know, So

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Speaker 4: I think that we're taking it more seriously every snap.

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Speaker 2: And and so do you think that as it happens

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Speaker 2: everybody's black and field goals. Why aren't we what people

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Speaker 4: Exactly, it's out there. It's out there for you to get.

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Speaker 4: So why can't we enjoy some of the too?

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Speaker 6: You say it's to want to, but you also mentioned

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Speaker 5: The special team coaches do that.

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Speaker 4: They tell you what's going on, and they tell you

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Speaker 5: So I'm assuming everybody does that.

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Speaker 4: So it's on big on big field goals or fourth

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Speaker 4: So there's there's different variations to everything, but there's always

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Speaker 2: We had a conversation after training camp factor after the preseason,

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Speaker 2: just whoever's here. You know you're covering punts. And that's

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Speaker 3: Either, is it?

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Speaker 5: Not lying?

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Speaker 3: Okay, But now the seasons starts, Now you have your roster.

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Speaker 2: Now you're and you said to me, I think we

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Speaker 2: And why did you feel that way? And do you

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Speaker 4: It's getting there, it's getting there. We we haven't played

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Speaker 5: At but we have to.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, we have the same kind of unit

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Speaker 5: And then we have a tip on our shoulder too.

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Speaker 4: We came from a dynamic coach, a renowned coach from Bones,

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Speaker 4: But we're really good unit as well, and Neck's letting

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Speaker 2: And yeah, and when you say you're getting there, what

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Speaker 4: You easy answer, yeah, penalties, penalties. We gotta knock up

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Speaker 5: Want to be.

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Speaker 3: What does Nick bring that?

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Speaker 6: Granted, you give credit to Bones for everything all the time,

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Speaker 4: Nick brings a different type of accountability. He brings like

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Speaker 5: I think that we needed.

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Speaker 4: Bones is more loving you up, like Nick does that

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Speaker 5: It's just two different styles.

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Speaker 4: And I think we were ready for that new style

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I like, how old are your kids?

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Speaker 5: Come on, man age me, man.

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Speaker 3: I can't age you from sitting over here where I am.

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Speaker 5: Come on, these people don't know old I am.

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Speaker 3: How are your kids?

445
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Speaker 5: My oldest is fourteen seven? My son seven?

446
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Speaker 3: Did you get old?

447
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Speaker 5: See what I'm saying?

448
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: I kept playing.

449
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 5: I got a four year old?

450
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Speaker 3: Okay, fourteen four.

451
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Speaker 2: And the reason I asked that is as I as

452
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Speaker 2: I hear you talking about the two instructive and disciplinary approaches,

453
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Speaker 2: it's especially interesting since you've got a ten year gap

454
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Speaker 2: in your kids. Which are you as a father? Are

455
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Speaker 2: you bones or are you nick?

456
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Speaker 3: And is it different with the two kids?

457
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Speaker 5: I have three kids, three kids. Sorry, So with.

458
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Speaker 4: My two daughters I'm bones obviously, bones right right, and

459
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 4: then with my son, obviously I'm nick.

460
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's tough love, but he gets it. He

461
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 5: gets it. Yeah, being man, right.

462
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Speaker 6: Do you find yourself kind of being like that tough

463
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Speaker 6: love on some of the younger guys in that room

464
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Speaker 6: at times?

465
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

466
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's I'm the teammate, so it's like, I

467
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Speaker 4: can't you know.

468
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Speaker 6: But you said you know it's accountability, a different level

469
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Speaker 6: of accountability that you guys are kind of taking on,

470
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Speaker 6: considering Nick is bringing that mentality for you guys. I mean,

471
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Speaker 6: do you ever kind of feel yourself being like that

472
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Speaker 6: extension of Nick?

473
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Speaker 5: Of course, But that's just like the rapport we have

474
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Speaker 5: with each other.

475
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 4: Like if I see somebody doing something wrong and I'm

476
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Speaker 4: gonna tell them, like I don't have to really sugarcoat

477
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 4: it because we brothers, and they'll do the same to me.

478
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: Like I get coached a lot by the practice squad dudes,

479
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: they tell I'll kid, you're not.

480
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Speaker 5: Janen Crawford is one of my favorite teammates on a team,

481
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: and he tells.

482
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 4: Me, hey, you should have did and you should have

483
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: did that, and it's all I'll use it everything he.

484
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Speaker 5: Teaches me in the game.

485
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Speaker 4: So I don't care how old you are, how young

486
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Speaker 4: you are you if you have something, leave the room.

487
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Speaker 2: That's nice. I would not have brought it up. But

488
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Speaker 2: since you mentioned your age.

489
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Speaker 5: He did that.

490
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Speaker 3: Did that.

491
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Speaker 2: All I did was ask the ages of your kids.

492
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Speaker 2: Ten years in the league, twelve, Oh you know what

493
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Speaker 2: is that? Service time?

494
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Speaker 4: So I've been I've been at least in twenty fourteen, right,

495
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Speaker 4: I did two years on practice squad.

496
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Speaker 3: And so that's not service time, right, is it?

497
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Speaker 5: This my tenth year active active?

498
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Speaker 3: Right? So that's where I got the ten years. But

499
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Speaker 3: by the way, I'm with you, I.

500
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Speaker 2: Think that if you were in a training camp and

501
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Speaker 2: made a.

502
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Speaker 3: Practice squad that should count. So let's say twelve.

503
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Speaker 2: Years twelve years ago, did you do you think that

504
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Speaker 2: you would achieve the position that you have achieved of

505
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Speaker 2: leadership and captaincy and just have lasted active rosters for

506
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Speaker 2: ten years?

507
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Speaker 5: No?

508
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Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I just wanted to make one year. I

509
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: just prayed to God they give me one active season.

510
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Speaker 4: And I was twenty fourteen, so I've been truly gladed.

511
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Speaker 3: Why was that? What would one year do it? Just

512
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Speaker 3: to prove to yourself you could do it?

513
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

514
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Speaker 4: I didn't play football really, I played one year of

515
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Speaker 4: college football. I was a walk on in college. So

516
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: for me to even make the NFL is a blessing.

517
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: It was a miracle.

518
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Speaker 4: So I was like, hey, man, I just want to

519
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 4: touch the field for one season and then everything else

520
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: is fine.

521
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Speaker 2: Well, how long did it take you to learn about

522
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Speaker 2: being a vested veteran and what that meant?

523
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 4: Now?

524
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Speaker 5: I was always well read on that. Yeah, I need

525
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Speaker 5: my money.

526
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you're talking about health insurance, life practically,

527
00:26:58,720 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: I need that.

528
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: I need that. I got two years.

529
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 4: I was like, okay, I need this third one because

530
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 4: of no point of me playing only two years and

531
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: not getting invested.

532
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, that was that was big.

533
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Speaker 4: All right.

534
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 3: So let's let's go back.

535
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: This is eight years here, right, yes, before we have

536
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: to take our next break. What when you came here,

537
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: you already fought through some injuries, practice squad, You've been

538
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: on what three teams Atlanta, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh maybe more more?

539
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: Okay, and so when you came here, what how long

540
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 3: term were you thinking? What did you or did you

541
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: think this was just it's another place to come?

542
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: And So when I got signed off the practice.

543
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Speaker 3: Squad, which was like in November, it was in.

544
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Speaker 4: But it was Yes, I got signed here off the

545
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 4: practice spot, so I was guaranteed three games.

546
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 5: So those three games were going.

547
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: To make me invested. Yes, So what happened? Crazy thing

548
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: is right?

549
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 5: What happened.

550
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: I played one game, I played pretty well, I played

551
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: a special teams. The second game we played in UH,

552
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: we played in Washington. We played the commanders now, but

553
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 4: I got hurt fote my forearm. I was like, oh, well,

554
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: my career is over. But I got my I got

555
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 4: my pincher. So I was, you know, I was I

556
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 4: was upset, but I was glad that I got my pincher.

557
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 4: They put me on IR and then they actually brought

558
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 4: me back that same year in the playoffs, so I

559
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 4: was like, wow, I don't know why they liked me

560
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: so much, but I'll take it.

561
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Speaker 9: Yeah.

562
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Speaker 4: So ever since then, I just kind of like build

563
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: a rapport with the team by just being who I

564
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Speaker 4: am and being productive.

565
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Speaker 3: Now i'll show my age. I remember who was a

566
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Speaker 3: special teams coach.

567
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Speaker 5: Then, Keith uh Ko, Keith o'quinnton.

568
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Speaker 3: Okay, Keith o'quinner's in the scouting department.

569
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Speaker 5: Now U lows. Actually Carlos. Carlos Pope was our assistance.

570
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Speaker 2: Carlos ever talked to you about the day he beat

571
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Speaker 2: San Francisco on Thanksgiving by block on a field goal.

572
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Speaker 3: No, but we'll talk.

573
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Speaker 2: I hit him with that every time I see him,

574
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Speaker 2: and he says, how do.

575
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Speaker 5: You remember that?

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Speaker 3: Cause because I remember that.

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Speaker 2: huge screens on either side of the room showing the

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Speaker 2: Jets and the Dolphins, and of course the Cowboys will

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Speaker 2: be in New Jersey to play the Jets on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Do you watch like would you go home and watch

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Speaker 3: the rest of this game?

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Speaker 5: I didn't know it was on.

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Speaker 7: It?

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Speaker 2: And what we what will you get from? Because you watch,

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Speaker 2: you know you'll watch tape all week. What will you

601
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Speaker 2: get from watching the game live?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not watching it for just because we're playing.

603
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Speaker 4: You just watch because you're football.

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Speaker 3: Wait, good football. It's the Jets and the Dolphins. Oh

605
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Speaker 3: did I say that?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: No, this is very true. And thank you for providing

608
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Speaker 3: me a segue. What I think it's hard to fool players.

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard and and you guys always no

610
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Speaker 2: one's ever going to say anything bad about their team

611
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: or another team. But you know when you've got a

612
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Speaker 2: really good team, and you know when it might be

613
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Speaker 2: a little bit more of a struggle. And so I'm

614
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: just curious about reading public comments and social media, which

615
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: is on me, about where you are as particularly as

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Speaker 2: a defense, but as a team.

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Speaker 3: A month in, you know, four games out of seventeen.

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Speaker 2: What did you What were your expectations when you went

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Speaker 2: to camp and coming out of camp, the whole team,

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Speaker 2: not just special teams, whole team.

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Speaker 4: You felt like we were going to be good. I'm

622
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Speaker 4: not saying we're not good. We just having played our

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Speaker 4: best yet. All right, So it's what four games in,

624
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Speaker 4: We're fine, it'll come along.

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Speaker 2: Just do the defensive statistics alarm you or bother.

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Speaker 5: You yeah, of course.

627
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Speaker 4: But to me, this is just my personal team. We

628
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Speaker 4: had three differensive coordinators in the last what three years.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's growing things.

630
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Speaker 4: It's a new system with brand new code, brand new system.

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Speaker 4: I would learn it.

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00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 5: Uh so, it's just growing things.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is great. I'm so this is just fascinating

634
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Speaker 2: to me. I'm gonna ask you a question. I asked

635
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Speaker 2: Malik Hooker in the locker room last week and Schottenheimer

636
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: on his pregame Coaches Show. If I were a head coach,

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Speaker 2: I would be all for not exposing my key players

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Speaker 2: in preseason. I think it's risk reward. That's too dangerous.

639
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: If you have an injury, and when you have another

640
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 2: new system and nobody plays together until the season starts.

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Speaker 3: You can practice all you want, it's not a game.

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Speaker 2: Would it have helped for the starters to play a

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Speaker 2: little bit in the preseason together.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't have made any difference at all.

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Speaker 4: Now, I think I think your disclaimer said it all

646
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 4: that about injuries and all that. I don't I don't

647
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Speaker 4: think that would.

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Speaker 5: Have helped it. Probably play in two series.

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Speaker 4: You're not getting too much out of that anyway.

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Speaker 5: I think we got enough.

651
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: I practiced playing together, We practiced against other another team

652
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Speaker 4: with the Rams as well.

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00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: Uh, it's just it's just growing things right now.

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00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: Like I said, we're going to get a fixed. I

655
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 4: know they're working really hard in and the coaches room

656
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Speaker 4: to get a fixed.

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Speaker 3: You've been in the league for some time.

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Speaker 5: I didn't mean to say that, like.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, but for some time, not that you're old enough

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Speaker 3: to be her father or anything like. She did not

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Speaker 3: mean anything like that at all. That came out really bad.

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Speaker 3: But no, season better and there we go.

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Speaker 5: That sounds a little better, you know what.

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Speaker 6: Just anyways, but yeah, no, do you need a jacket?

665
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Speaker 5: Was bad?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: But wait, I was just going to back away and

668
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Speaker 2: let you finish this.

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Speaker 6: Uh I forgot my question, but no, no, how long does

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Speaker 6: it typically take to get adjusted to the new scheme?

671
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Speaker 6: Get adjusted to you know what defensive coordinator is really

672
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: asking of you guys because it's new pieces, young guys,

673
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 6: a new scheme, personnel, things like that.

674
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: So how long does it typically take. We're not through

675
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 4: the first quarter this season quite yet, right.

676
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: I think next game.

677
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: Will be like the first quarter, so I think it

678
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: takes about a quarter to get to it.

679
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Speaker 5: Like we played it Jets this week. We'll see what happens.

680
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 5: We'll see what we have fixed.

681
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: And what we need to work on, and personnel usage

682
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: will change, I think, And tell me if I'm on

683
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: the right track with this. I said during the game

684
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Speaker 2: last night when we saw what Maris. Maris had, I

685
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: think more snaps last night in the defense than he'd

686
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Speaker 2: had in the first three games combined. And as Araku

687
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: is really starting to take some steps and Houston, every

688
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: time he gets in the game, that's another one of

689
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Speaker 2: your guys. Yeah, every time he gets in the game,

690
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: something happens. And I said, I want more of those guys.

691
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Speaker 2: I want to see more because they are prof juice.

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Speaker 3: Am I right about that?

693
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: Yes they are? They are. But it's a shuffle the

694
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Speaker 5: coaching staff has to do.

695
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Speaker 4: You know, you got guys you have to play. You

696
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 4: got guys that you know that that fit the system.

697
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: You have guys that it's just a shuffle. And I

698
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to be a coach in that like right now,

699
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Speaker 4: because they gotta find in their first year with brand new,

700
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Speaker 4: brand new players.

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Speaker 5: They got to find the right fits. And they're just

702
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 5: doing that right now.

703
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: And and is it also true this doesn't get talked

704
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Speaker 2: about enough.

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Speaker 3: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Is it also true that coaches who are new to

707
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 2: they've got to learn the players?

708
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 5: Yes?

709
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: Yes, Granted Shady been here for a while, so he

710
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 4: already knew the players. That's why his offense is going

711
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: crazy right now. You know what I'm saying. Dak is

712
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 4: NBP playing right now. But Fluse everything's brand new for him,

713
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: so he has to adjust as well. So, like I said,

714
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: it's just going things. How much does Flues lean on you?

715
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Speaker 5: Guys?

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00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 6: Guys that have already been here, they kind of know

717
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 6: a little bit their way around.

718
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 5: How much does he lean on you? Does he lean

719
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Speaker 5: on you at all? He appreciates me.

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Speaker 4: It's just just being in the room, being ever, being

721
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: a veteran presence in the room, but a season that

722
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Speaker 4: but as you would say, in the room and.

723
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Speaker 5: And just whenever. Yeah, yeah, the old head in the room. Yeah,

724
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Speaker 5: that's so he appreciates that. For me.

725
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Speaker 4: I see him talking to uh Donovan Wilson a lot.

726
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: I see him talking to the older guys like that

727
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 4: a lot. Uh case, he talks to him a lot.

728
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: It's just about how like the direction of the program.

729
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: How much has Kenny Clark kind of.

730
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Speaker 3: Changed this man man right there.

731
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just he's the veteran presence we need it. Yeah,

732
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: he really is man.

733
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Speaker 5: He's he's does everything right.

734
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Speaker 4: The way he practices, you can't you can't make an

735
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: excuse around him. Like I was complaining one day about practice.

736
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: He was like, heyog, we ain't got time for that.

737
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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, my man. Ever since then he's

738
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Speaker 5: been my man. That's my guy.

739
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Speaker 4: That's nice.

740
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Speaker 8: You can tell.

741
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 6: Like when he first got here he's straight business.

742
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, No, he's funny.

743
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: Now he's super funny. We don't Yeah, he's not at

744
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: like a square. No, but he's like he just like

745
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 4: no nonsense when it's time of the work, is no nonsense.

746
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Then he got all the jokes in the world after.

747
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: But one of the guys got skins on the wall.

748
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: He's got skins on the wall.

749
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Speaker 2: He does, and in a different way you do the

750
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: guys who are playing special teams. Because they don't know

751
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: anything about you, it doesn't take long to find out.

752
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: Might want to he hung around ten years. I might

753
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 3: want to listen to him a little bit.

754
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: No, he's seem to work already. He was.

755
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: He put that he know that respect is there for me. Yeah,

756
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: I respect that about him.

757
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: And and so what is it about someone like that

758
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: who comes in and immediately I'm of the opinion that

759
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: a player who says I'm the leader, he's not the leader.

760
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 3: Clark never said I'm the leader. He just became the leader.

761
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: Like today he walked in the door, right, what is

762
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: it about.

763
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 5: That he just came in like super humble. He came

764
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 5: in like, hey, this is going on. I'm Kenny. He

765
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: just introducing hisself.

766
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: But he wasn't like pushy about like I'm the man,

767
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm the man.

768
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 5: He just came in like and he just earned.

769
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: His respect by the way he practices the way he

770
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 4: like I said, he doesn't complain. He's just like, hey man,

771
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: this is what we got on our plate to day.

772
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 4: This is what we're gonna get done. And he still

773
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 4: won't tell you you the leader, like he just come

774
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: in and he just leaves by example.

775
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: And that's a true leader.

776
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Speaker 6: One thing that I got a chance to sit down

777
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: with him before the Packers game, and I'd asked him, like,

778
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 6: do you feel like you kind of got overlooked in

779
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 6: that trade in terms of your success and the good

780
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 6: things that you did, and he was like, you know,

781
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 6: kind of like some people. I feel like some people

782
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 6: thought that I was just a guy that the cowboys

783
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 6: and packers traded for. Do you feel like that was

784
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 6: the case in that trade.

785
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 4: I think he has a chip on his shoulder and

786
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 4: I think he's playing that way too. And I like that,

787
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: you know, the underdogar thing you guys are going on.

788
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: He's gonna pay dividends.

789
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna take our last break and we've got lots more,

790
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 2: including Mike. For the people who are here at Sidecar

791
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: Social to ask questions of c J.

792
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: Goodwin, we will be do we have any any other sponsors?

793
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Speaker 3: We need to recognize that that's it, I promise you

794
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 3: Albertson's and Tom Yeah, I believe you. Okay, then we'll

795
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Speaker 3: be right back.

796
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Speaker 8: Oh h.

797
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Speaker 7: H right, No cowboys, No cowboys how pros.

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Speaker 1: To the Miller Lite Cowboys Hour supported by Albertson's back.

799
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Speaker 2: At Sidecar Social in the Star District, Brad Sham and

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Speaker 2: Nicole Hutchinson.

801
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: And c J.

802
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Speaker 2: Goodwin Cowboys Captain and we're here every Monday night except

803
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: for the Monday nights when we're not. There'll be some

804
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: of those later, but not for a while. So don't

805
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: don't worry about that. We got a microphone. Oh we

806
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: got we got Not only do we have a microphone,

807
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: we have people willing to grill you CJ.

808
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 3: Goodwin within an inch of your young life. So please, ma'am,

809
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: go ahead. Okay.

810
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 10: I have a question about last night's game where you

811
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 10: guys played a trip play and Dak was in a

812
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 10: different position than he normally was, So can you walk

813
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 10: us through that?

814
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: How that happens?

815
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 5: How that happens?

816
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Great question? What what what's the point of it? What

817
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 3: are they thinking?

818
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: Okay, so we spread, we spread back out right, and

819
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: usually when the quarterback's not in his regular position, the

820
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: defense has to go to another defense. So I think

821
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: that's what Shaddy was trying to do. And most defense

822
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 4: call it black. It's just like his zone. And then

823
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: I think he's going to just run a wildcat and

824
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 4: just run it in the end zone.

825
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 5: And did we score? And I play maybe yes, Yeah,

826
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: we scored, so end up working it ended up working out.

827
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: I appreciate that question.

828
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: And what I like is if it never happens, if

829
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: they would like have the wildcat guy, which was which

830
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: was Jivante. I'm pretty sure have him like take a

831
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: step and fake it and the throw it to the

832
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: quarterback out there in the first.

833
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 5: Let's not do that. Let's not do that. I don't

834
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 5: not the back. No, I don't want to risk that. Well,

835
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 5: if he's all low, I'm okay, you're.

836
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: Playing ten on eleven. You'd rather play ten on?

837
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: How about how about to play the You watch college

838
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: football too? It was Alabama. Do you see what I

839
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: had to play? Alabama?

840
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 8: Oh?

841
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 5: I didn't. I turn to the other game.

842
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 3: Oregon and Pennas State.

843
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: So Alabama put a three hundred and forty or fifty

844
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: pound offensive lineman split out and through a screen to

845
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: him and watching him and they he almost scored. See

846
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 2: guys like, I got a tackle, but I don't know

847
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: what to attack him.

848
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, that's a hard tackle. That's a hard tackle,

849
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 4: no matter how slowly moving.

850
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: I still a big guy.

851
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: Okay, you.

852
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: Have been a defensive back, and as you described it

853
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: to me earlier in the year, I'm an emergency emergency right. Yeah,

854
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: but you must you must be playing on the scout team,

855
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: play corner.

856
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: Uh huh?

857
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: And so what what are you doing? What are you seeing?

858
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: On the scout team because you can give us some

859
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: insight unto the way Dak and the offense are working

860
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: right now because you play against them in practice.

861
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, what am I? What am I saying?

862
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: What are you saying?

863
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying a lot of completions, That's what I'm saying.

864
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they kind of they kind of tears apart every

866
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: every now and again, they tears apart. Yeah, So I

867
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Speaker 4: I which you want me to give you the game plan?

868
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: You don't do you you don't have it?

869
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you working for the Jets?

870
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: Do I look like Jets? If I was?

871
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 5: No?

872
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: I mean you you see that every you have to

873
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: do whatever the offense of the other teams.

874
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: So that question, They actually ran that in the red

875
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 4: zone against us, the scout team.

876
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: Oh is that right?

877
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 10: Yeah?

878
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, minds you think we knew we can't touch back anyway. Okay,

879
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 4: we're lefting by itself. We're hoping they threw it to him.

880
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, they did the same play the next scorning

881
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: the mess. So when they did it, I already knew

882
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 4: it was going to get touchdown.

883
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: So there was a day in Trinda.

884
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Speaker 2: You you came into the league as a receiver, did

885
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: you not? And there was a day in training camp

886
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: that you really freaked me out because you put a

887
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: white jersey off and I said, are they moving my

888
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,439
Speaker 2: man to offense? Now?

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00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: Hey? The more you can do, right, what you can do?

890
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: And how often do you do that?

891
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: I rarely wear the white jersey, but I meet with

892
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: the receiver sometimes as well. I'm an emergency everything. They

893
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Speaker 4: got me holding, They got me a holder now too. Yeah,

894
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 4: I'm an emergency everything.

895
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Speaker 5: How much pride are.

896
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Speaker 6: You taking being versatile if you can if you need

897
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Speaker 6: to line up a receiver, you could. Obviously you play

898
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 6: corner too as well. How much pride are you taking

899
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Speaker 6: that versatility?

900
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Speaker 4: It's a running joke because I tell everybody I'm the

901
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: best player we got. Yeah, at work, I said all

902
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: the time, I'm the best player we got. It's a

903
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 4: joke yeah to them, and I mean that now I

904
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Speaker 4: could do it off.

905
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Speaker 5: Oh good c J.

906
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Speaker 3: Nerves for McKinnie.

907
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Speaker 2: Let's say down the road, once you're retired from playing football,

908
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: do you have any plans of looking into something similar to.

909
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, now it's Larry who's trying

910
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: to push you out? Yeah, I see sorry.

911
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Speaker 5: Go ahead.

912
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: Are you good as far as you looking into the

913
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: future of career? Have you thought of maybe acting, singing

914
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: anything of that short that.

915
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Speaker 5: Yes you yeah, I can't sing at all.

916
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Speaker 4: I can I cannot sing. But I appreciate that. I

917
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Speaker 4: did some modeling recently. I was in Vogue. I was InVogue. Yeah, yeah,

918
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: you do you have this this?

919
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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I don't.

920
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: My sister is my manager, and she forced me to

921
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Speaker 4: do this modeling thing and they ended up putting it

922
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Speaker 4: in like Vogue dot com whatever.

923
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Speaker 5: It was pretty cool.

924
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: It about some NFL players or whatnot. I'm not going

925
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Speaker 4: to pursue that. I'm just letting you know. I'm just

926
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Speaker 4: letting everybody know I was in Vogue, and no, I

927
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Speaker 4: don't want to do anything on TV. But I'm in

928
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Speaker 4: like real estate and stuff, so I'll see that.

929
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I appreciate that question.

930
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Speaker 2: Well, Larry, I appreciate it too, because I had it

931
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Speaker 2: on my list, which saw in my head, which is

932
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Speaker 2: a dangerous place, because I have been given to understand

933
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Speaker 2: that you would not mind learning the scouting and personnel business. Yes,

934
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Speaker 2: please explain and say more.

935
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Speaker 5: Just by watching.

936
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 4: So will McLay let me shadow the scouts one day,

937
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: probably two three years ago during the off season, and

938
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 4: and it was just amazing how he was just one

939
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: about his job and how he looked past the numbers

940
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: and seeing the player. That's why they get a lot of,

941
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: you know, great players, just because I think it to

942
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 4: him that bit ever to see everything. I'm sorry, and

943
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 4: just having an ability me to help give somebody the

944
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 4: blessing that has been bestowed on me if I'm in

945
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 4: that position, like I just I know how that feels

946
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Speaker 4: that that received that blessing, and I think wanting the

947
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Speaker 4: scouting you know or often they can becoming a GM

948
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Speaker 4: would would be amazing for me.

949
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Speaker 2: One of the things that the Cowboys do well, A

950
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: lot of teams do it.

951
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: It's not only the Cowboys.

952
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Is find free agents and there there's a there's a

953
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: pro personnel department.

954
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 3: They're ranking every player on every team in the league.

955
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: And then the college scouts.

956
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: When the draft is over, they all call it the

957
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: second draft because now everybody who didn't get drafted and

958
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: some of them become ten year guys who you know,

959
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: become team captains and and do very well. What do

960
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: you think you would look for if you were if

961
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Speaker 2: you were working for Will McLay.

962
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Speaker 3: What would you be looking for in a guy who

963
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Speaker 3: wasn't drafted to say, yeah, but that's our guy.

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Speaker 5: I would look for raw athleticism.

965
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Speaker 4: I would look for I mean, you gotta you gotta

966
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 4: have be athletic.

967
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 5: You gotta be you know, you gotta be able to

968
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Speaker 5: fit the part.

969
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: But just being a good dude, just being able to

970
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: like being on time, being respectful.

971
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Speaker 5: Those things are huge in this league.

972
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Speaker 4: And that's something I try to tell the younger dudes

973
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Speaker 4: as well, like this is this is your job, for one,

974
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 4: Like what do you Why are you late to your job?

975
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 4: You know, in any other business, if you're late too

976
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 4: many times, you get fired.

977
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Speaker 5: So like just being respectful, respecting other people's time. I

978
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: would look for that.

979
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Speaker 6: And there's that was a couple of years ago. You

980
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 6: said you shadowed Will McLay, right, and have you thought

981
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 6: about maybe the off season, you know, taking another opportunity

982
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 6: picking his brain a little bit.

983
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Speaker 5: Won't let me.

984
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Back up there, Yeah, because he said, Hey, this man

985
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: trying to take my job.

986
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 5: I think that's what you see. No, I do want

987
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Speaker 5: to go back up there.

988
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 3: By the way, he started as a defensive back.

989
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, he said he was slow though, man,

990
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 4: I just talked to him yesterday.

991
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Speaker 5: He used to hit though, he said he used to hit.

992
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: He was when he played at Rice.

993
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: He had to cover Michael Urban one in one game

994
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: when Michael when Rice played Miami, asked him about that.

995
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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate that, will yeah, but but.

996
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just gonna because we're friends.

997
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna it was another old joke, don't.

998
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: It's not a joke, and it's not old because I

999
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: know about old.

1000
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Speaker 9: But when you have played twelve years and like every year,

1001
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Speaker 9: then when they sign you, I'm happy because good Mike

1002
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Speaker 9: guy got another.

1003
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Speaker 5: Year, one of the few. Does it seem like I'm

1004
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 5: getting a lot of hate? They said? They said said,

1005
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 5: They said that Taxis and c J. Goob won one

1006
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 5: year deal. That's what they things. My brother.

1007
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Speaker 4: My brother is like, yeah, so he'll send me all

1008
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Speaker 4: the negative stuff.

1009
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Speaker 5: Okay, it's hilarious.

1010
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Speaker 2: How you obviously are still enjoying it, and especially now

1011
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Speaker 2: being a captain probably lifted you up a little bit. Yes,

1012
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: but not many guys play ten years. How how much

1013
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: longer would you.

1014
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Speaker 3: Like to play?

1015
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 5: God? Well, my body's healthy.

1016
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Speaker 4: Somebody wants to pay me to play football.

1017
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Speaker 5: This is fun. Yeah, I wouldn't. Why would I stop?

1018
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean until until they pushed me out.

1019
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Speaker 3: I don't want you to. I'm just saying no, no, no,

1020
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Speaker 3: I know.

1021
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 5: I'm just saying like, I don't.

1022
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Speaker 4: I don't when people ask me that it's not you,

1023
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: it's just I get it a lot like why would

1024
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Speaker 4: I you quit your job?

1025
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Speaker 5: Job?

1026
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Speaker 2: And but I have had guys after they get to

1027
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Speaker 2: eight years, ten years.

1028
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Speaker 3: Maybe lineman more, but they say, okay, you.

1029
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Speaker 2: Know what, we might be Oh, we might be getting

1030
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Speaker 2: to a place now where.

1031
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Speaker 5: The difference is I'm on that minimum.

1032
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Speaker 3: How do you keep it going as you continue to

1033
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Speaker 3: you know what.

1034
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Speaker 6: The old I'm sorry, how do you maintain this level

1035
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 6: of play?

1036
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Speaker 4: I do a lot of recovery, man. I have a

1037
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Speaker 4: great we have a great organization that helps you a lot.

1038
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Speaker 4: And I go to sleep early.

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Speaker 2: You keep playing as long as you want, and I

1040
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: hope they keep bringing you back.

1041
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Speaker 5: C J.

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Speaker 3: Goodwin, everybody tell them thank you. Cowboys Special Teams Captain

1043
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Speaker 3: Cowboys and the Jets Noon on Sunday, Yes, a noon game.

1044
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Speaker 5: What do you know?

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00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: Nicole and I will be back next week on the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys O Midlight.

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